Cutting Gov’t Waste, One Penny at a Time. Interview with Author Lee Smith | Triggered Ep. 215
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Thank you.
It's in an incredible few days.
I just got back from New Orleans, Louisiana, where my father became the first sitting president to attend a Super Bowl.
That's actually shocking to me, but apparently it's true.
The cheers for him were awesome, and it was an absolute blast.
I was there from Friday.
I have a lot of friends in the area.
Just a dynamic shift.
New Orleans is not exactly a conservative town.
People are loving what's going on.
People from all different walks of life, all socioeconomic statuses just coming up to me, loving it.
Whether it was big business guys in some of the boxes at the game, the janitor at the Super Bowl himself who just came up to me and just so happy to take a selfie in what we're doing.
It was just absolutely awesome.
And during the game, my father even announced that we are cutting pennies, literally.
We're getting rid of the penny, guys.
So we'll get into all of that.
And later we're going to have investigative reporter Lee Smith.
He'll be here to help us continue to unravel all of the spending scandals inside the government.
That's why it's so critical to get this stuff out, guys.
You see the media just totally silent on some of the insanity that's being exposed.
You're seeing corrupt partisan judges trying to prevent, like, the Secretary of the Treasury, you know, the CFO, the Chief Financial Officer of America, For looking into some of these insane payments.
They don't even want any exposure.
They don't want any transparency.
They want business as usual.
So a lot to get into, plus my father's strategy in the Middle East.
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them check it out but Taylor Swift she was there too didn't quite get the same reception And you can see her wondering, what's going on here, guys?
What just happened?
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Just a seismic Remember all those people sort of light manga, light patriot, don't antagonize anything?
Guess what?
The American people understand.
They understand they've been lied to.
They understand they've been gaslit.
And they're not having it anymore.
America First is back in full effect.
And the game, wow, you know, unfortunately, it was a blowout.
My young son who I brought with me, well, brought a couple of my kids, but my young son Spencer, he's 12, huge Chiefs fan.
Wasn't thrilled with what was going on.
But even at the game, I guess because it wasn't as intense as we probably liked, wouldn't have been as close as we'd have liked the scene, my father was getting work done during the game.
In the fourth quarter, he announced that he's directed the Treasury Secretary, Scott Bestin, another friend of the show, to stop producing new pennies.
Because, not shockingly, I guess, anymore, it actually cost...
Two pennies to make one penny.
It costs two cents to make a one-cent coin.
Doesn't seem like great use of funds for something especially that most people don't want to have lying around in their pockets.
We're ripping the waste out of government, quite literally, one penny.
And speaking of ripping out waste, Doge is moving forward on cleaning out the endless waste, fraud, and abuse, one agency after another.
The USAID office is now closed.
The CFPB is being wound down.
And the Department of Education is in for a major overhaul.
You know what?
I love it.
I'm here for all of it, guys.
Inject that stuff into my veins.
The Department of Education, which spends more money per student than any country in the world with disastrous results.
We're like one of the worst educated of modern countries.
Probably third world countries ahead of us in terms of how they're educating our children at a fraction of the cost.
Here's Treasury Secretary Scott Besson on how Doge is creating one of the most important audits of our lifetime.
Elon and I are completely aligned in terms of cutting waste and increasing accountability and transparency for the American people.
I believe that this DOGE program in my adult life is one of the most important audits of government or changes to government structure we have seen.
That when I was in my 20s, we had the Grace Report, and there's some great suggestions that came out of that.
Never implemented under Clinton and Gore.
I think it was to government efficiency or reduce government.
Nothing happened.
So, President Trump came in, there's a big agenda, and I think that there are gigantic cost savings for the American people here.
And I think it's unfortunate the way the media wants to lampoon what is going on.
These are highly trained professionals.
This is not some roving band going around doing things.
This is methodical, and it is going to yield big savings.
But the media, guys, whoo!
They're not happy about it.
They just continue to melt down over everything that Doge is doing.
And the team he's building, including Big Balls.
It's time, folks.
This is Trump 2.0.
It's wild.
It's effective.
And you're going to see just how bad our government has been playing with your money.
But Big Balls.
You just can't make it up.
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Good evening.
Thanks for joining us.
We begin tonight with Musk and Big Balls.
Big Balls.
Big Balls.
Big Balls, who worked for Elon Musk's so-called Department of Government Efficiency, Doge.
In the one case of the Big Balls kid, a literal teenager.
Big Balls online.
Big Balls here that Katie's talking about.
A 19-year-old that goes by the username Big Balls.
So that would be one way that we could refer to him.
Young Computer Wizards.
Wiz is the aforementioned Big Balls.
Because who among us doesn't feel better about Big Balls?
Big balls.
Big balls in charge of American air traffic control.
And while the media melts down over every dollar that we're saving United States taxpayers, it's exactly what needs to happen if we want our government to work efficiently, effectively, and productively.
Top White House advisor Stephen Miller was asked about it yesterday, and here's how he responded.
A radical left judge said, That the Secretary of the Treasury cannot access the Treasury computer system.
This isn't just unconstitutional.
That ruling is an assault on the very idea of democracy itself.
What we continue to see here is the idea that rogue bureaucrats who are elected by no one, who answer to no one...
Who have lifetime tenured jobs, who we would be told can never be fired, which of course is not true, that the power has been cemented and accumulated for years, whether it be with the Treasury bureaucrats or the FBI bureaucrats or the CIA bureaucrats or the USAID bureaucrats, with this unelected shadow force that is running our government and running our country.
Donald Trump is engaging in the most important restoration of democracy in over a century.
By saying that we are going to restore power to the people through their elected president and his appointed officers.
That is the only way we can have true democracy in this country.
You elect a president, he appoints a staff, the staff transparently carries out his orders on behalf of the whole nation.
But this nonsense where we have...
Unelected, unaccountable, and previously unfireable bureaucrats who do whatever the hell they want with no one telling them and no one controlling them.
We're not going to let that happen anymore.
We're going to have a democracy and we're going to have an executive branch that serves the American people, that answers to the American people, and that answers the will of the American voter.
Why would anyone in government not committing fraud be against transparency and audits?
I put that up on Twitter.
I mean, it's pretty simple.
The American people simply want to know where their taxpayer dollars are going.
Audit all of it.
Expose it all.
Let the people decide.
Trying to hide it is not the way.
And frankly, if you're against that kind of transparency, if you're against those audits, you're probably in on the fraud, folks.
Those security clearances that the swamp creatures hold onto after they leave office, well, those are gone.
Why should someone working in the private sector still have access to confidential government data?
Why should they have that access?
They're gone.
My father vetoed and voted out clearances for Biden, for Blinken, Letitia James, Alvin Bragg, and others.
Why would Letitia James have that kind of information?
Why did Letitia James The
way the media wants to lampoon.
Jennings on CNN the other day called my father the 80-20 president.
And his colleagues on CNN and the panel he was on just can't handle the reality.
What is currently the dumbest strategy in politics, which is Democrats taking the 20% side of every 80-20 issue in America.
USAID, people want this.
Pared down.
They want to streamline.
They want to know where the money is going.
Democrats have a meltdown.
Today, Donald Trump signs executive order on keeping boys out of girls' sports.
Democrats take the 20 side of that issue as well.
All these issues, this is like Trump's superpower.
Finding a bunch of 80-20 issues, getting on the 80, and everybody who's sort of reflexively against him gets on the 20. And now the Democratic Party has like a 31% approval rating.
This is why.
It's actually incredible to see Democrats just beside themselves on how to handle all of this.
They're taking even more absurd positions than they've been taking because I guess Trump derangement syndrome is real and they have no choice.
They just have to take these super unpopular positions.
They have to go all in on them.
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Lee, great to be back with you, man.
How you doing?
Hey Don, thanks very much for having me on today.
I appreciate it.
Oh, it's my pleasure.
It's my pleasure.
So, thanks for coming back.
But first off, you know, we're now starting to understand the entire apparatus of left-wing activism in this country.
It was basically propped up by USAID. As we dig deeper, we're now learning that USAID money was getting into the hands of Hamas.
In some ways, it's just...
A giant smoke and mirrors operation, something like we've never seen before that we're ultimately paying for with no transparency and no visibility.
What do you think's the next chapter in this story?
I know we've been talking about it a lot, but it feels like every day new stuff is coming up and like just more ridiculous than the day before.
It's hard to believe.
Well, it's very shameful what they did, what the left did to USAID, because, of course, this was an agency that was set up in 1961 by John F. Kennedy, and it was set up to help the United States beat the Soviet Union, to fight communism around the world.
And so that was certainly a noble purpose.
But what happened is, effectively, the communists in the United States took it over and they started funding their leftist allies, most significantly in the United States, but also around the world.
So it's shameful.
It's shameful and it's proved deadly to the United States.
What we're going to find out, I'm afraid, is that it's not just USAID, but in fact, every agency that the left managed to take possession of that they turned to their own advantage.
And, you know, one of the things that we're seeing now, of course, is even a place like National Archives, right, which was a fundamental part of the setup.
It was the key.
Right, to the setup to go after your father on that so-called classified documents case.
So that was National Archives.
And that kind of stuff is going on at the National Archives.
You can bet it's gone on in every single agency across the government.
We're going to find it at the Pentagon.
We're going to find it at the CIA. We're going to find it certainly at the State Department.
We're going to find it at the FBI. So all of the people who are coming in, all of the heads of these agencies and bureaus, from John Ratcliffe to Cash Patel to Marco Rubio, have their work cut out for them.
I mean, people knew, Cash knew, that he had a lot of work going in at the FBI. I think that some of these other people are going to be surprised to find out what it's going to take to wrest control from these animals on the left, at home and abroad, and make these...
Very important institutions, once again, serve the American public.
Yeah, no, it's wild for me watching it.
I'm saying, you know, the same people that wanted to bring in 80,000 armed IRS agents to audit your $600 Venmo account have no interest in auditing anything else.
Now, somehow it's a threat to democracy to find out where your taxpayer dollars are going.
I mean, the irony of that is, I mean, it's impressive even by their standards.
Well, I'd forgotten about the IRS. I'd forgotten about that.
But that's a very good point.
I mean, right up there with archives, I mean, you know, with national archives, if they wanted to turn that institution into a citadel for the left, and of course, we already know how it's targeted, how it's targeted the right, how it's targeted Republican NGOs, the IRS. But you're absolutely right.
That just shows you how deep the rod is.
And while your father and his administration are pushing forward.
To make America great again, they're going to have to spend some time looking backward as well.
That's one of the important things, I think, about the Department of Government Efficiency and Elon Musk's work, that they can look back, get the documents, get the records, and say, this is ridiculous.
We have to fix this so our people, so our government can move forward and serve us, which is what your father, of course, was elected to do, clean up the garbage from the past.
Well, you know, the Doge team now says that the Department of Education is next, then the Pentagon.
The Defense Department has not been able to pass an audit for, what, seven years, seven times, whatever it may be.
But it has received another funding increase for the fiscal year 2025, bringing its total budget to more than $900 billion, almost a trillion dollars.
All the books you've written sort of underpin the point that we have departments that have grown so big they subvert the will of the president and his administration and all the people who clearly voted for a mandate of change.
That all seems to be changing now.
But, you know, do you think that goes as smoothly as we'd like?
No, and people are going to fight this.
I mean, we know, and, you know, it's been a joke, a dark joke for ages about how much waste there is at the Pentagon, but we're also going to find out there.
I mean, I know for a fact, for instance, that the Pentagon funded training of Palestinian forces full of a whole bunch of anti-American and anti-Israeli terrorists.
So this is, you know, this is...
At least as bad as what USAID was doing.
I mean, USAID transferred billions effectively to Hamas.
But the fact that the Pentagon was training these people in Judea and Samaria.
So we're going to find really bad stuff at the Pentagon.
Of course, we're going to find absolutely terrible stuff at the Department of Education, which is clear to all of us now after COVID. And school parents around the country saw what their kids were learning.
That's what the Department of Education has been funding.
So again, it's going to be everywhere.
And for people over the last week who have lost their minds seeing how bad it is over at USAID, I hope they buckle in because it's going to get considerably worse.
Yeah, if you don't want transparency to the American taxpayer who funds all of these things, you're probably in on the fraud.
That seems pretty obvious.
You mentioned sort of Israel and what's going on there now.
What are your thoughts on everything happening in Gaza?
That was another outrage cycle that we faced last week, and it took about 12 hours, I guess, for Egypt and Jordan to step in and be like, no, no, no, it's okay, we'll rebuild Gaza.
It's sort of amazing.
What's your take on everything that's going on there?
Well, I'll just start by, you know, this morning I saw, you know, I saw what your father said yesterday on his way across the Gulf of America, what he said on Air Force One about how, you know, watching the prisoners get released and it looked like pictures from the Holocaust.
And he said, you know, I'm going to lose my patience at some point.
I don't know how much longer I can take it.
And I have to say, I know I'm not alone as an American seeing a president.
Seeing our leader respond emotionally to something so sinister and so dark, you know, he acted like a man, right?
Like a regular human being saying, this is horrible and this is disgusting.
And so, you know, again, I know I'm not alone saying how proud I am that he's president for him to respond like that, because it is, it's horrible, it's sinister.
It takes us back to very, very dark moments in our history.
I think he's been very clear about what's happened.
I know there's some confusion, and that's because the media, of course, is trying to cloud what your father's been very clear about.
And unfortunately, even some administration officials have clouded the message a bit.
And the message, as far as I can understand it, is simply this, is that Gaza will be evacuated of Gazans, not just Tamas.
1.7 million people, however many it is, they're going to go.
Jordan and Egypt will take some.
Your father continues to insist, no matter how much the Egyptians and Jordanians, both US allies and both get a tremendous amount of American money, how much they complain, but that Jordan and Egypt will take the Gazans and other countries may take some too.
But that small strip of land will become under the possession of the United States.
And I think the whole Plan, as the Prime Minister of Israel was saying, is creative.
It's creative, and it's thoughtful, and it's a way to...
It's a way to bring peace to the region.
It's a way to serve American interests.
It's a way to serve the interests of our allies.
And so again, so there's the emotional stuff, your father recognizing the ugliness, but also saying, how do we get out of this insane thing that's been happening here for decades?
The American people are sick of it.
Our true allies around the world are sick of this kind of violence.
And so your father's come up with an answer, and I think it's great.
What will happen with Gaza?
I can imagine a whole bunch of different possibilities.
I mean, your father might turn it into a resort.
He's talked about what terrific real estate is.
It's right on the ocean, the Mediterranean Ocean.
The Eastern Mediterranean is beautiful.
It might become that.
It might become, who knows, it might become something of a strong place.
The Eastern Mediterranean is a vital waterway, vital to American strategic interest.
It might become something like a base.
We don't know yet.
But again, I think it's just, it's historic.
And I'm so happy that your father has seen this, has come up with a solution that was beyond the, not only beyond the imagination, but beyond the grasp of most people for so long.
So again, I think that's something else that's really exciting.
Here's how.
Donald Trump is pushing forward, pushing ahead, not being hemmed in by the deep state, by the media, by bureaucrats who have a lot at stake in these corrupt policies.
So it's really impressive and really inspiring.
Yeah, no, it's pretty amazing to watch.
And then, you know, again, the outrage cycle.
By the time they get outraged about something, they're on to three other things.
I mean, their foot is so on the gas, it feels like the media can't even keep up with what they're supposed to be outraged about, whatever, even if they all make total sense.
You know, that part of it's sort of amazing.
They just can't get ahead of the narrative.
I think that's a great point.
I mean, remember what happened during your father's first term when Andrew McCabe was, you know, Andrew McCabe was left the FBI and everyone, so all the media and all the bureaucrats, they focus on Andrew McCabe.
How do we protect Andrew McCabe?
How do we protect John Brennan?
How do we protect so-and-so and so-and-so?
If you just keep going, right, if you just keep going and if you go in huge numbers and you go that quickly, right, they can't defend it.
Because they don't know what they're defending.
There's just too much going on.
For instance, there's been so much else going on.
No one has really attacked the president yet for naming this, again, a very important waterway.
The Gulf of America.
No one said anything about it because there's so many other things going on.
And if that was the only thing he was doing, of course, people would be losing their minds.
There would be protests all around the country.
How dare you name this body of waterway on America's border, the Gulf of America.
But no one's had a chance to say anything about it.
Well, you mentioned sort of Brennan and McCabe, obviously big sort of players in, you know, the Russia hoax.
You actually wrote another book called The Permanent Coup.
What we seem to be uncovering is that the Russia hoax, the impeachment hoax, all of the other abuses could not have happened with groups like USAID. And again, all of these other NGOs, just a way of taking taxpayer money and basically eliminating the accountability.
It's actually quite chilling.
The call was always coming from inside the house.
It was happening right there this whole time.
What do you think?
We can do to keep that going, to keep the change.
Is it just the exposure?
Is that enough?
Do people get it enough that they can that they can end it?
Or do you have to do that with legislation?
You know, where do you think it goes?
I think exposure is important.
I think legislation is important.
The executive orders are important.
You know, but another thing, and this is why this is why it's this is why Attorney General.
It was such an important appointment because, you know, you need the DOJ on your side fighting all this stuff.
And that's going to be really important as we're going to see as the deportation campaign moves further along.
As stuff like election integrity, all of these different things, the DOJ has to fight these on behalf of the American people, right?
On behalf of your father's administration.
And so far, I think that...
From my understanding, DOJ lawyers have been doing a tremendous job.
So as long as everyone is in line and pushing forward, I'm very optimistic about the next four years that this is going to keep going on in the same way.
And again, people are both elated that this is happening, and they're a little despondent as well that this has been going on for decades, and they're finding out now how much, you know.
How much of their money was spent on this?
Again, not just nonsense, not just...
Promoting, you know, transgender comic books in Peru or Chile, wherever it was.
But how much of it has been used for very dangerous and very destructive causes that really affect Americans and our allies as well.
So, you know, people are really rattled by this.
Yeah, I think you make a really good point about the DOJ. They have to be so involved.
I was with AG. Pam Bondi last night at the Super Bowl, and it's great to see what she's doing, but you're right.
You saw this judge that basically said, hey, the Secretary of the Treasury isn't allowed to look at things inside a Treasury.
I'm like, wait a minute.
The CFO of America isn't allowed to look at the books.
Obviously, it's an activist judge, but these are the kinds of things they're going to throw at you to try to slow you down, try to delay it.
It's a waiting tactic.
See what they can do.
you know, keep it going as long as they possibly can and or put up whatever roadblocks that they can, that they can bring it back as quickly as, you know, if Trump's not at the helm anymore. - They're gonna fight the whole way down And this is something very important to remember, because it's been relatively peaceful.
There was stuff that I thought that we were going to see.
And I think we may still see some of that at some point, but there's no doubt they're going to fight going down the entire way.
And that's why it's so important.
I mean, remember what happened?
There was the travel ban that your father implemented right when he came to office in 2016, and courts across the country fought him on that.
And it appeared to me at the time he did not have enough support from DOJ. And look at how important that travel ban is to keep out bad people.
Or potentially bad people that we have no information about from their countries of origin.
I mean, just a reasonable, common sense policy.
Hey, we don't know who these people are that the Iraqis are sending here because they don't keep good information.
So no, we can't accept them into our country.
They may cause trouble here.
We know nothing about them.
Just common sense like that.
And they fought all the way down.
It's wild to watch it.
I mean, you know, hey, you know, they basically effectively have the border almost shut down entirely.
And it's like we were told for so long, hey, we're doing this.
We were told, as you're talking about, whether it's the Iraqi or Afghan refugees, that they were all vetted.
Turns out that was a lie.
We've just been lied to for far too long.
One of the things that I didn't know about until your father started making a point, I mean, we all knew what was going on at the southern border, but I had no idea it was that bad on the northern border as well.
Like the amount of fentanyl that's been coming across, the amount of illegal aliens that have been crossing in the north as well.
So, I mean, there's just going to be different policies and different initiatives.
And then there's going to be just different things that your father says that's going to shine a light on different things.
And we're going to learn, we're going to learn.
A lot about the bad things that people who were supposed to serve and protect this country did to damage and hurt the country.
But again, I think that all Americans should be excited, whether or not they voted for your father, should be excited that we're getting our country back.
Yeah, I mean, we're now actually cutting pennies, literally and figuratively, because, you know, it costs two to three cents to make something that costs one cent that almost no one uses anymore.
I mean, again, just common sense.
But the Empire does strike back, to use sort of the Star Wars analogy.
What do you think that looks like, right?
The swamp is deep.
The swamp has teeth.
They're not just going to go away because, frankly, this is the only way they know how to make a living, and they've made a damn good living for themselves at the expense of the American people.
We've seen the leaking of information, doxing some of these young guys on Doge teams.
Remember, we're told a 22-year-old computer scientist can't possibly have this kind of information or this kind of clout, but we're supposed to listen to Greta Thunberg being one of the great climatologists of all time.
We've seen that.
I mean, they're literally doxing people.
They're doxing information about potential ICE raids.
Where do you think this all goes?
Well, I mean, I think we're also going to see fights in the cities.
I mean, different, you know, I mean, blue cities.
I mean, this is unfortunately where we are right now in America.
But a lot of these blue cities and even some states entirely are run by lunatics.
So I think they're going to fight very hard.
I think they're going to fight them because the deportation campaign, I really think, goes to the heart of the Democrats, certainly their election strategy, right?
One of the reasons that the borders have been opened is to backfill all these different places, like whether it's California, whether it's New York, all these people, so many millions of people left during COVID and they went to normal places like Florida, like Texas.
So they're going to lose electoral seats or they're going to lose congressional seats.
They're going to lose electoral college votes.
So this is really important.
Democrats do not want to lose these.
And of course, they can't win on their own ideas because they're insane.
So they need clients.
I think the deportation campaign is going to be crucial, and that's really the place, I think, where the Democrats are going to start focusing most of their energies, especially with these sanctuary cities.
Now, of course, you know, your father has a lot of very important instruments, including the fact that, you know, we can just not fund that, you know, not fund what they're doing, not fund sanctuary cities.
But again, that's going to be fought in the courts, and I certainly hope not, but I wouldn't be surprised to see it fought in the streets as well.
Because again, if they're already making...
Look at what they're doing by leaking this information about the ICE raids.
They're making it not just difficult, but very dangerous for federal law enforcement officers.
Tipping off people about these different raids, that makes it extremely dangerous for law enforcement.
So again, I wouldn't be surprised by anything they do.
And again, I say this not to alarm people, but just so we're looking ahead, violence wouldn't surprise me at all.
Yeah, we certainly hope not, but they're definitely trying to do that, right?
I mean, there's no other logical explanation for it.
I think the one thing they're perhaps missing, someone wrote about it on Twitter, I sort of replied back about one of Trump's superpowers is basically finding an 80-20 issue and then just going all in on the 80 and...
Essentially forcing the Democrats, because in Trump derangement syndrome, they have no choice but to basically take the opposite of anything he does, even if he's like, hey, the sky is blue, now it's some other shade.
It's crazy to see it, but it is sort of magical, because the American people are like, wait a minute, why don't we just do that?
It's common sense.
They have not learned a single lesson, I don't think, in terms of the Democrat Party and where they are in terms of leadership.
Well, I think this is a very important thing, and it's worrisome because we have to remember that...
Your father won the popular vote as well, but Kamala Harris still cashed in.
I'm not sure all of them were on the natch, but she still cashed in more than 70 million votes, and that's a concern.
We still have some work to do here to convince people, to convince our neighbors, family members, or whatever.
We want our country back.
We want our borders up.
We want to be protected.
We want our beautiful cities.
Again, there's another great thing about I'm a New Yorker too, like you guys.
And so the way your father speaks about New York, I'm like, yeah, please save New York.
Please get New York back.
And we have to convince our friends from New York who are still there, how do we...
How do we save our great American cities?
How do we convince people like, no, don't let crime run rampant.
You don't have to live like this.
Subway doesn't have to be like trench warfare.
Well, you don't have to spend $59 million to house illegal immigrants in luxury hotels in New York either.
Just, you know, minor details.
We can't take care of people that are flood victims in North Carolina.
Who knows what's going on in California after the fires, but we have almost $60 million and who knows how much more.
That's just in New York City.
It does not seem like great use of taxpayer funds.
No, and that's what we need to remind people of.
Say, hey, don't you want better education for your children?
Wouldn't you like to have a police officer walk in a beat in your neighborhood?
Don't you want to be able to cross Brooklyn Bridge at night on a date, your first date?
Walk hands, cross Brooklyn Bridge at midnight.
That's the way New York City should be.
That's the way all these places should be.
To continue to work on our friends and neighbors say, don't you want a normal life in America?
Don't you want, you know, don't you want America to be a great place and your cities and your communities to be great places?
So you talk about the left and the left loses their mind.
Yeah, people have to learn that that is the path toward death and literally death and destruction.
Yeah, I spent the last three days in New Orleans and it was sort of interesting.
That's not exactly a bastion of conservatism or that kind of thought, but the amount of people, you know, locals, regular workers, restaurant people, the janitors at the Super Bowl, I mean, running up to me and taking selfies.
I mean, there is a cultural shift.
There are people that would have never voted for Trump before that are actually...
Waking up to what's going on.
I mean, listen, I'm not often shocked anymore.
I can understand it.
But it was, like, overwhelming.
Again, whether it was that guy or whether it was me going to one of the more, you know, fancy sort of, you know, Super Bowl-type parties and young rappers coming up and taking selfies.
I mean, it was across the board, the full spectrum, you know, socioeconomics.
It was a seismic shift.
I mean, even I was shocked.
At just how sort of well received some of this stuff is with regular people.
Again, you'll never hear about it on the mainstream media.
They'll just pretend those things aren't even happening.
But it's very real.
I mean, I think you saw, you know, frankly, what happened in the Super Bowl with Trump versus even a Taylor Swift or whatever it was.
She's like, wait, what just happened?
I'm getting booed in a stadium of 100,000 people.
Like, what's going on here?
I think people are getting it.
I mean, I think so, too, because.
Because it's not just what your father says and stands for because of the results, right?
I mean, people are seeing results.
I mean, for instance, I saw, you know, well, what?
I mean, I think they had the recruiting ad for the Army during the Super Bowl, right?
I mean, it's like, wow, okay, that's different.
This seems back to the future, I guess is a good way to put it.
And so people are seeing results, you know, and that's what people want.
It's like, yeah, get our money back.
Do something good with it.
I mean, this whole idea of a sovereign wealth fund, I mean, that's another possibility for Gaza.
I mean, okay, so we'll turn it into a resort, and that'll go into the sovereign wealth fund.
I have no idea.
But yeah, but I think that that's what it is, telling people what you're going to do for them, how you're going to improve their lives, and then they see it, they see it this quickly, and with this kind of character.
Oh, no, people are...
All around, people are starting to wake up.
Yeah, and I mean, it was going on even before, you know, January 20th.
It was going on in December when the military had its highest, or I guess the army specifically, had the highest recruitment numbers they've had in...
A really long time.
Only to be broken by the recruitment numbers in January.
Like, it's, wow.
Patriots are back.
They're willing to do this because they understand they're no longer going to be in a system where, hey, if you're a patriotic guy, maybe you're a conservative or whatever, you're not going to be put in a box.
You can actually do that.
You have a chance to excel.
You have a chance to actually win, not just because you check off a couple other boxes that some lunatic woke activist is putting in place.
Remember how they rationalized it before?
They were saying, oh, recruitment's down because kids aren't patriotic and because actually kids are out of shape.
So all of a sudden, over the course of a month and a half, 18-year-olds got in a lot better shape.
So now they're in the Army and Navy and Marine Corps.
No, I mean, of course, those kids were always there.
And what they wanted to fight was they wanted to fight.
They wanted to serve and protect their country, their neighborhoods, their families.
And, you know, and now that they know that that's the purpose of the armed forces, so they're back in the numbers that we'd expect them to be back.
Americans love the country and they love a leader who exemplifies that same love of the country.
Lee, how would you describe the Trump doctrine?
And perhaps where do you think your next book and your next investigation are gonna take you? - Well, actually, I'm writing a book on China right now.
And your father, it's not really about China.
It's not really about China.
What the book is about is it's about how U.S. elites have sold our country out to China for decades.
And I got the chance to speak to your father a little bit about this.
And the amazing thing is your father, like, as with so many things, he was the one who really pointed it out.
The book starts with a line from him saying, I've taught people a lot about China.
And that's true.
And so you see, in some ways, we talk about USAID. We talk about the other sources of corruption.
China has been an enormous source of corruption here in the United States.
The way, again, that our elites, our establishment has sold us out to make money while empowering the Chinese Communist Party.
So I'm looking a little more into foreign policy rather than just domestic policy, foreign policy.
I think this is a very important part of your father's doctrine.
Your father is not someone who wants to wander into pointless wars, but I think it's very important for people to understand because a lot of people...
Praise him, saying, well, he didn't start any new wars.
And that's great.
But the most important thing about his foreign policy, and the reason he didn't start any new wars, is because he projects strength, right?
Through military, economic, diplomatic, and political means.
The United States is a superpower.
We have lots of ways to project power.
And that's what your father has done.
And that's what he did during his first four years.
And that's what I expect him to do now as well.
And as he's described the threats, the foreign threats facing America, he's described China, number one, Russia and Iran.
And so that's what I expect him to be focusing on.
And that, again, is what's so important about his...
His insight into the Middle East crisis, Hamas being an Iranian asset and saying, okay, this is not good for our allies and this is not good for American interests around the world.
But again, China is very important.
And again, your father was the first president to turn this around, to even look at it and say, China's a problem for us.
It's a problem for our people.
So I expect...
I expect a lot of important work from him and his administration on China over the next several years.
Yeah, it's amazing what you can do when you actually utilize all the tools at your disposal, when you're capable of doing that, using your economic might.
It's just incredible to see it all coming into play.
So Lee Smith, thank you so much.
Appreciate you being here, as always.
And I look forward to seeing your book on China.
Thanks, Don.
I appreciate it and look forward to seeing you soon.
I'll talk to you soon.
Be well, buddy.
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