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Jan. 15, 2025 - Triggered - Donald Trump Jr

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Out of this World: Breaking News Investigation on Secret Alien Aircrafts, Live with Ross Coulthart & Lue Elizondo | TRIGGERED Ep.207

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	Thank you.
	This one's going to be a big one.
	Sorry for the change in day.
	We're normally Monday, Thursday at 6 p.m., just obviously with all the insanity around the inauguration and travel and this and events.
	We had to mix and match a little bit this week, so hopefully you guys can bear with us.
	But we've got some major investigations into secret alien aircraft retrieval programs.
	And the journalist at the center of uncovering the story...
	News Nation journalist Ross Colt Hart will be here to lay it all out.
	And then we'll get reaction from friend of the show, Lou Elizondo, who worked on these very issues while he was in our government.
	I was joking last episode that there's so much going on that we sort of glossed over the fact that we have actual evidence, I mean, think about it, of non-human intelligence and UAP aircraft.
	It's a massive, growing story, and we're going to dive deep into all of it.
	Crazily enough, the world is in such an insane place right now that as we start seeing this very clear, very objective evidence of something we've all been wondering about for probably a really long time, it's like, eh, who knows?
	But I imagine today, after we break some of this news, hopefully we have a lot more to talk about with it.
	And maybe we calm down the rest of the stuff that we can focus on how major a discovery all of this is.
	There's obviously a lot of other big news.
	We'll get towards that at the end of the show, including my father brokering a deal to get the Israeli hostages back.
	Now, remember, I'm sure the media will say it was the Biden administration.
	But if you recall, it was the day after the election when Hamas said, OK, you know what?
	We should really start talking.
	You know, now that daddy's home, maybe we have to start having a conversation about these things.
	It looks like it worked.
	That's all happening.
	Last week when he put out the threat there's going to basically be hell to pay if they don't return the hostages by the time he's in office.
	Seems like that worked also.
	So we also have confirmation hearings that are taking place on Capitol Hill as we speak.
	So we'll cover that later in the show.
	I even may have a couple minutes to take some of your questions to hear what you guys are thinking about all of it.
	And of course...
	We have the inauguration on Monday.
	So there is just so much going on.
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	And we're going to begin with our top story surrounding new explosive investigations into what we're told is a covert government alien aircraft retrieval program.
	The journalist, Ross Colhart, who will be here in moments, is unveiling a years-long investigation, including interviews with Special Operation Whistleblowers, okay?
	People who actually have seen these things, who have come out, who are finally now talking about one of the greatest mysteries, perhaps, of modern time, wondering if there is extraterrestrial life.
	Here's a clip laying out some of what he's found.
	Tell me about the moment when you realised that you were involved in a retrieval of non-human technology, alien tech.
	So it became very clear the first time our communication process and procedure was modified and then just visually looking at the object on the ground you could tell that it was extraordinary and anomalous.
	It was not human.
	How close did you get?
	Well, I was a helicopter pilot, and I operate with a 150-foot to 200-foot long line, so I got within 150 feet of this object.
	What did you see?
	I saw an egg, a white egg.
	Was there any visible propulsion system on it?
	No, not what we would know.
	There's no engine, there was no thermal signature.
	I was operating at night when I finally came in to pick it up, so I'm working under night vision goggles at the time.
	And it was quite clear.
	I flipped them up, flipped them down, and looked at it a couple of different ways.
	How did you know that that egg-shaped object was non-human in origin?
	Visually, after seeing all kinds of things in my past, it was clearly something that was ridiculously looking.
	It's inconsistent with anything I'd ever seen before.
	I can also tell you that the reaction by my team, we all knew we were dealing with something extraordinary.
	And at no stage were you ever subsequently told that the craft was of non-human origin.
	I will tell you that during this process over the last couple of years, it's been confirmed to me by ranking members of the UAP task force that what we were working with that night was in fact an HI and it was not a unique experience.
	And that's not all, guys.
	The whistleblowers are saying something that seemed literally unimaginable not too long ago.
	Are not alone.
	Check this out.
	How long have you known this secret about unidentified anomalous phenomena being of non-human origin?
	For more than 10 years, we did recover things that were exotic in nature in the sky, and we know they were classified craft.
	And we recovered them and took them back to where they go.
	Now that is clearly technology that is certainly not known.
	I got within 150 feet of this object.
	We are not alone.
	We are not alone.
	Guys, we're going to cover a lot of ground here.
	So joining me now to explain so much more about what he's learned, investigative journalist and correspondent for NewsNation, Ross Colt Hart.
	Ross, thank you so much for being here.
	G'day, Don.
	It's good to join you.
	So, I mean, this is a groundbreaking story.
	We've been seeing, you know, sort of photos over the last few years, definitely started backing up a lot of what we're hearing.
	But perhaps this is the biggest story of your career.
	I know it's been a long journey getting to this point.
	Can you lay out this investigation and really the most shocking findings?
	You know, it's funny, Don.
	I'll actually attribute something to you.
	One of the reasons I got my curiosity twigged about this story was because of an interview you did with your dad before the...
	Last election, where he ran for president, and I think you actually asked him about Roswell, and he indicated at the time that he knew something, but he didn't go any further.
	And it made it very, very clear to me that whatever your dad knew, he hadn't been given the full story, because by that stage, I knew about the retrieval program.
	And I think the most disturbing implications of this, and we explore this at 8pm Eastern Time on Saturday night in the News Nation story.
	What we will be doing is revealing how presidents haven't been told this.
	Congress hasn't been told this.
	It's been withheld from the public's knowledge.
	And to some degree, allegations of a covert group of people, if you like, a deep state, essentially doing things outside of congressional scrutiny, it's real.
	It's damn real.
	And it's quite scary.
	Yeah, I mean, this is definitely one of the biggest stories ever.
	I know, you know, that was right before the 2020 election.
	And I asked him that question because it literally, to me, that was more important than, you know, who the shooter on the grassy knoll was.
	Like, is there other life?
	Yeah, he definitely gave me a little bit of a look like, you know, maybe we'll get to this later.
	But I don't know if it was enough for what people want to hear.
	But, you know, that doesn't surprise me.
	We've seen so much of that where, whether it's my father or I'm sure Joe Biden or other presidents, you know, that deep state.
	Sort of gives someone enough information to get the answer that they want, but not all of the information to get the answer that perhaps that person would actually give if they actually had all of that information.
	So, you know, that's pretty fundamental.
	And it's sort of strange, again, that the unelected bureaucrats have this kind of information, but we don't even have the ability to decide whether it's something that should perhaps be made clear to the public or others.
	Well, in this case, we're going to make it very clear, Don.
	Basically, the public has been lied to.
	I'm shocked as a journalist that the mainstream media have failed in the main.
	They've allowed themselves to be led by the nose by people in the national security state, the different intelligence agencies that have frankly misled and lied the public for years.
	And what we're revealing is...
	First-hand evidence from people who are top-level, trained, tier-one military operatives, patriots, men who love their country with a passion but who understand also that there's an accountability problem here, that there are faceless people inside the national security bureaucracy who have taken it upon themselves to conduct.
	The expenditure of possibly billions, if not trillions of dollars on a covert program that is being deliberately concealed from Congress.
	And having spoken to people, I'd love to hear one day what your dad would say about this and how much he's actually been told, because I know he's been Partially briefed, partially read into the UAP program, and I'm not inviting you to comment about that, but I'd love to know what successive presidents would say about what they've been told,
	because I think even the commanders-in-chief over the years have been lied to about this, and I think there's a pretext that goes right back to the 1950s to justify the secrecy.
	Apparently, President Eisenhower made an order that this would all be kept I reached out as a journalist several years ago thinking I was going to debunk this story, thinking I was going to find out that it was another laudable American black program that we were developing advanced aerospace technology.
	What I actually discovered when I started talking to people in the military, in the intelligence community, is that This is real.
	There really is a legacy retrieval program.
	And it didn't take me long before I stumbled across the gentleman who features in our story this week, Jake.
	And he's telling us an extraordinary story.
	He's telling us how he was involved in the recovery of alien vehicles and that these vehicles have been recovered by the United States, in some cases brought down.
	Buy high powered microwave technology.
	And in other cases, they appear to have landed freely.
	And this is something that's been going on in secret for years, possibly decades.
	And I, for the life of me, do not know why people in the national security establishment think that they continued colluding to conceal this from the public and frankly, lying.
	To the public.
	I mean, as recently as November, we were assured in a presentation to Congress by one representative of the Pentagon that there was no evidence of extraterrestrial visitation or engagement with this planet.
	That is a flat out lie.
	And you will see the evidence this weekend on NewsNation at 8pm Eastern Time.
	And we will present the definitive evidence from first hand whistleblowers.
	Corroborated by people who've worked with this person, their military service is impeccable.
	We also have other evidence that we will present, which is absolutely definitive that what we are talking about here is a non-human technology.
	The allegations are simply quite extraordinary.
	And I think, as you would know, because you've actually, I understand, been taking quite a close interest in this subject, there are so many people around America who do not buy the official explanation that this is all nonsense, that it's all hysterical tinfoil gossip.
	There is a lot of solid, hard evidence to substantiate this.
	Whistleblowers come forward all the time.
	And what has happened until now has been successive presidents have allowed themselves to be deceived.
	And I think one of the problems in Congress is senators, congresspeople, they're allowing themselves to be manipulated by large chunks of money from defence aerospace that stop them from talking candidly about these issues.
	And I'm talking, Don, to scientists inside the program and these witnesses who are military people who've actually worked at the highest level of the military, including one of them who's worked in Delta Force, and they're talking exclusively for the first time about their knowledge of these programs, their first-hand role in the recovery of...
	What they say and know are alien vehicles.
	I think that's a really big deal, what you brought up.
	If you have a Delta Force operator, if you have other military personnel with impeccable records, it feels like over the course of the last 50 years of my lifetime, any story, it's some person who can barely speak or put together a coherent sentence and they were abducted in a farm field in the middle of nowhere.
	These are Delta Force operators.
	These are serious people.
	These are some of the most qualified military operators anywhere in the world.
	This isn't the proverbial sort of podunk witness that's either perhaps been created that way to protect the narrative, which also wouldn't surprise me.
	But these are serious people, multiple corroborations, not just a one-off lunatic.
	I can emphasise also, Don, just to emphasise what you're saying there, they haven't just done this willy-nilly.
	They've actually done the right thing.
	They've given the Pentagon the information.
	This is the real kicker in this.
	I can tell you, with their authorisation, that they took this information to Dr Sean Kirkpatrick of the All Domain Anomaly Resolution Office, the Pentagon's UFO office.
	He knew about this.
	And yet he told Congress something different.
	That's something that should be investigated.
	They tell me they presented definitive evidence, including imagery of UAPs to Dr. Sean Kirkpatrick of Arrow, and he did nothing with it.
	And Don, this is a real concern, and this is something I would urge your dad to order an investigation into.
	Please, the public have got a right to know this.
	When Dr. John Kozlowski, who's a good guy, I'm told, who's taken over Arrow, when he came into the job late last year, he couldn't find, when he was re-approached by the same team who came to him to tell him the same information, he couldn't find that information inside the Pentagon's UFO office.
	Had disappeared.
	And so the very office that's been set up by the Defence Department to investigate this issue and to supposedly give you and me and the general public the truth about what the government really knows about UAPs, it would appear the information somehow got lost.
	And I think that deserves and demands investigation.
	100%.
	I had a similar...
	Anna Paulina Luna, a congresswoman from Florida, was on the show on Monday.
	We were obviously talking about a lot, given the confirmation hearings, everything that's going on, but she's been one of those people that's been investigating this.
	I think she's on the Oversight Committee, so this is something that you would think would be up her purview.
	And she said when she went to go inquire about it, even in a classified manner, even with the appropriate clearances, just totally stonewalled.
	But the stuff she was able to find matched so many of the things...
	That you are talking about.
	You couple all of this, Ross, with the Pentagon failing seven audits, the missing $250 billion, and it's probably a lot more.
	Maybe it went to Ukraine, who the heck knows, and whatever other black programs that they're running.
	But man, it seems like they could be spending a lot of our money looking into this.
	They have a lot more information that they're unwilling to disclose.
	Well, Don, I can tell you I am talking to a whole lot of people.
	Behind the scenes, who are toying with coming forward, and I know other colleagues of mine are also talking to legacy UAP program witnesses who want to give this evidence.
	They want to testify.
	But what they're not getting from Congress or the Pentagon's UFO Investigation Office is honesty and credibility with their willingness to actually engage with them and give their evidence.
	I really think what you need in America is what happened way back in the 70s, some kind of church commission inquiry that basically digs into this in a public way and brings these people before a public hearing and puts them under oath.
	And Lord help them if they lie, because I can tell you, people have taken insurance on this.
	If the Pentagon tries to lie its way out of this, and I'm not saying everybody in the Pentagon knows this because I have friends at senior levels in the military and the intelligence community who assure me they know nothing about this.
	They're good people, and they say they should know.
	They should have been briefed into this.
	And they're as appalled as you and I are that this program is being kept secret.
	And they think it's time the public got the truth.
	And so what I really think needs to happen is some kind of public inquiry where this is all brought out in the open.
	And it may very well be, sir, that there are things that need to be protected.
	We all want to protect national security, and that's why these guys that are talking to me For me, they went to the Pentagon beforehand and let them know that they're talking to me.
	They've actually admitted that they're doing an interview.
	And the reason is they want to give the Pentagon an opportunity to do the right thing.
	Because none of us want catastrophic disclosure.
	If there is stuff that's needing to be protected, national security-sensitive information, weaponry, propulsion systems, energy systems, that would give America and my country, Australia, an ally, an advantage against foreign adversaries, then let's use it.
	But it's improper that this is being kept secret from the American public, and more importantly, that successive administrations and Congress We are presenting the definitive evidence that these first-hand whistleblowers are giving us, that there has been a monstrous cover-up, and that, frankly, it's time this story was told.
	Yeah, to be clear, you're also speaking with firsthand witnesses who are explicitly saying, you know, we are not alone.
	I mean, this is not hearsay.
	This is not the telephone game.
	These are actual people who were there, who saw it with their own eyes, who were involved, multiple people.
	What are the parameters and extent of this, you know, covert alien aircraft retrieval program?
	What agencies, you know, perhaps other than the Pentagon, are involved?
	And how much of a secret...
	Was it until now?
	I mean, are they not even communicating with other branches of the military?
	They're clearly not cooperating all that much with Congress.
	Perhaps they're even perjuring themselves before Congress.
	I've actually spoken to somebody who's been a director of an organization, an administrator of a very senior organization.
	It's not a three-letter agency, but it's a very highly respected agency involved in the aerospace area.
	And he told me he was not briefed into this program.
	But what we discovered is that the person three rungs below him was briefed in.
	And that's how they've been doing this.
	What the program's done is it's found people who will be compliant with the cover-up.
	And that's where the immorality and illegality has come in.
	Because whilst billions of dollars, and I can say billions conservatively, of taxpayers' money has been spent on building this...
	Project and trying to reverse engineer these technologies, there's been no accountability to Congress.
	And under the beautiful US Constitution, which is a document I envy, which gives Americans so many rights, Article 1, Section 9 enshrines congressional oversight of expenditure on everything in government.
	And those expenditures have not been disclosed as they ought properly to have been.
	Yeah, that doesn't surprise me much.
	You see how that works, right?
	The president can appoint the guy at the top, perhaps even a deputy.
	But if they're going to those people three rungs below, you know, that's part of that sort of permanent Washington, the bureaucratic state.
	Those are the people that control.
	That's the political game.
	They get their eventual promotions while they're off ramps by playing that game.
	And that's how they've actually subverted the will of the people by...
	Perhaps indirectly subverting the duly elected president of the United States and the people who he chooses to put in his cabinet or otherwise.
	And I imagine that's the game.
	Those are the people who are there.
	You know, they'll be there before Trump, they'll be there after Trump one way or the other, not the people who would actually be able to give Trump the full information.
	So it's shocking that the guy that is actually chosen, that does go through Senate confirmation, has no knowledge, but people way down below the ladder who are just part of that permanent, you know, DC swamp machine could be fully read into this, which...
	You know, clearly lesser clearances, clearly less power.
	Perhaps it shouldn't surprise us at all because that's how they function.
	And this is just another indication of how broken the system is.
	Yeah, Don, I can tell you there are people who want to come forward and they are good people.
	A lot of them are scientists and they're frustrated because good science dictates that scientists share their information and talk about it so that they can get the breakthroughs we need.
	And one of the things that I think your dad has actually talked about is the ridiculous, unnecessary secrecy of the bureaucracy that has often been used to hide incompetence and corruption.
	And that's what I fear is going on here.
	People I'm talking to inside this secret program, they tell me there is no good reason for the American public not to know about the existence of non-human intelligence.
	There are good reasons why certain technologies might not be revealed, why You know, things that might be national security sensitive shouldn't be revealed.
	That's cool.
	And as a journalist, I respect that.
	But what's been happening here is inside the program, people have been threatened.
	And the allegation from these men that I'm talking to is that people have been murdered.
	These are very grave claims that as part of the cover-up, there have been serious criminal offences committed to conceal this program.
	What's sort of amazing when you think about it, you know, I look at, obviously, I've spent a lot more time with Elon Musk in the last few months during the transition.
	I've been down to see, you know, SpaceX launch and the technology that he's been able to create.
	You would think that they'd want to read in individuals like that.
	Obviously, they'd have to, you know, go through whatever clearance processes.
	But wouldn't we want to allow perhaps our greatest geniuses?
	When you look at, you know, Elon's been able to do, you know, More than NASA that had a 75-year head start privately and in a few years.
	Now he's outperforming Boeing, NASA, the establishment.
	I'm sure him and his top scientists are probably far more competent than anyone we have in government as it relates to.
	Propulsion systems, you know, et cetera, et cetera.
	You would think you'd want to actually bring those in because if it is about weaponry, if it is about, you know, the future of propulsion, it feels like there's a lot of other people that should actually be right into that.
	That can be done secretly.
	That can be done in a skiff or however you do it.
	But you would think you'd want their input as well, not simply leaving it with, you know, fourth tier government rung type employees.
	I mean, if you're trying to maximize...
	The most of the science, and we're told a lot lately to trust the science, wouldn't we want to bring in our best and not keep them totally out of the loop?
	You know, your father pledged to make America great again.
	And one of the greatest periods in American history is the exceptionalism that was shown during the Apollo program.
	And you know how America made that incredible breakthrough of going to the moon, as John Kennedy promised?
	They did it because they collaborated in an open and public way with clever people all over the world.
	And they developed the technologies and the know-how to go to the moon.
	We've lost that exceptionalism because of ridiculous, bureaucratized secrecy.
	And unfortunately, the national security state, it has become a swamp.
	It's become a self-generating organism that's basically trying to conceal its own failures and incompetences.
	It needs a broom through it.
	And I'm not saying this.
	I'm hearing this from people inside the military who acknowledge that the UAP cover-up is a symptom.
	of this problem.
	And it's absolutely intrinsic to resolving this issue that these questions get asked when the new administration comes in, because the new president has a unique opportunity.
	This is probably one of the only times in history in the last 60 or 70 years when there really is a mandate from the public to get in there and ask serious questions of the people who really should be being put under oath in public and asked.
	Hard questions about the truth of the claims that are being made by the men that I'm speaking to.
	Because these guys have stuck their necks up.
	They've risked their lives and their careers.
	And at times their lives have been at risk.
	I've never done a more dangerous story, I can tell you.
	It's been quite hairy encountering these people.
	Every time I've met them, they've been armed to the teeth, not because of me, but because of the threat that's posed to them by speaking to me and the fact that inside the program there's actually been skirmishes.
	You know, there are things that have happened that have been seriously criminal that need to be brought out into the open.
	Now, Don, I wouldn't be doing my job as a journalist if I didn't ask you about something I'd heard, which is that you're an experiencer yourself.
	Oh, you know, not really.
	I wish.
	As a pilot, you definitely, you know, I've seen some stuff.
	I'd spent a lot of time in the air, but I've not yet experienced the phenomenon.
	You know, directly.
	But I would be curious, I mean, for those who have, are we naming names, people in government that we would eventually be able to use as a list of the people that should have to testify perhaps before an oversight committee, even if that's done secretly, so that we're able to actually get to the bottom of it?
	Again, because you see what we're talking about, that permanent Washington disguising it for people.
	If we don't actually know the names of the people who do know, who are read in, that perhaps should or should not be, to actually be able to question them.
	Do you get into all of that in your story?
	Yes, absolutely.
	And moreover, can I tell you, they already have the names.
	This is the crazy thing about this.
	The witnesses that I am talking to have given evidence to the Senate Select Committee for Intelligence, and they have given names, dates, locations, and they are prepared to hand over imagery and data.
	And more importantly, all of that data has been with the Pentagon's UFO Investigation Office since a long time early last year.
	And that's the outrageous thing about this, is while the public has been told there is no evidence of this, it's not true, we don't know everything, and Congress has been flat out lied to.
	What's been going on behind the scenes is the most monstrous cover-up.
	And what I think this betrays, Don, and I say this as somebody who absolutely loves your country, the thing I love about America is the transparency and the accountability and, more importantly, the respect for the Constitution.
	Something has happened here.
	What is going on is there are people in the national security state who have taken it upon themselves to conceal the expenditure of...
	Billions, if not trillions of dollars on a program that the public has every right to know about.
	And in the course of covering that up...
	Serious crimes have allegedly been committed and all these people want, the only reason these people are coming forward, they gain absolutely nothing from it.
	What they want to do is do the right thing and provide the American people with the information they think they have a right to hear.
	It's absolutely unprecedented that people of this gravity Of this background, tier one military operators, guys who've worked undercover for very important intelligence agencies in the United States, are coming forward to reveal all they know.
	And they are doing it because they think you've got a right to know.
	And also, sir, they think the new president has a mandate to make change to do something about it.
	100%.
	As someone who has testified before, multiple...
	I can assure you the intelligence moniker is a misnomer, but that doesn't mean they're not also nefarious.
	I think there was a reason I was doing that testimony, and it wasn't because everyone was above board.
	So, you know, again, none of this should surprise all of us, but it should surprise us that we can now say, fairly definitively it seems, that there's evidence of non-human intelligence out there engaging with our planet.
	It's also almost so shocking.
	It's hard to digest.
	I mean, this would be one of the biggest questions, perhaps, of eternity.
	Talk about the gravity of that for you as a journalist, for someone who's willing to take that on, who's breaking that story.
	I mean, again, other than perhaps the definitive proof that there's a higher being, other life on our planet or in our universe is...
	You know, that's the Holy Grail.
	Don, it's the biggest story in human history.
	Are we alone?
	It's as simple as that.
	This is the biggest story ever.
	And it's funny, at the very beginning of the program, you were talking about the failures of the mainstream media.
	And I've worked in the mainstream media for 35 plus years.
	And one of the things I've seen is the gradual diminishing.
	Of the respect that people have for the media, because media organisations have allowed themselves to be controlled.
	By government.
	And one of the terrible lessons in this whole UAP story, when there is a reckoning, when there is a public reckoning, is going to be the failure of the great broadsheet masthead newspapers, the big TV programs that had the opportunity to investigate this.
	It was right there under their noses.
	But they didn't want to lose their stories that they're being fed by the PR people for the Defence Department and different intelligence agencies.
	And they didn't want to not keep their nose clean so that they...
	We're continually fed those stories.
	And that kind of captive journalism where journalists are controlled by PR people and by senior people and intelligence agencies in the Defence Department, it has to change because what we're seeing at the moment is a catastrophe of oversight in the United States.
	Congressional representatives and senators.
	Are cow-toed because of campaign funding and influence.
	And the media, frankly, they're going broke.
	Free-to-air media is basically going broke.
	Shows like yours, Joe Rogan, Tucker, they're generating millions of viewers.
	And the thing that's not being talked about is that newspapers, if they're lucky, crack 100,000 readers a day.
	And why do these papers and these mastheads have the influence that they have?
	Still, they shouldn't.
	Because there's a transition occurring.
	You know, we who operate online and, frankly, shows like News Nation, which are still supporting my kind of journalism, we're the only outlets that are doing this kind of research.
	And this is the problem.
	There is a travesty of oversight at the moment in America where much of the institutions that we've trusted in the past to check.
	And this is why there's such a unique opportunity right now in history and why it's going to be very interesting to see what your dad does on Monday.
	I'm hoping when he indicated that he talked about the drones and he said, you know, we're going to be asking some hard questions and revealing what the government knows about drones, I suspect he knows what...
	I'm hearing about those drones, which is that some of them are indeed anomalous and possibly not showing the performance characteristics of normal human drones.
	The big question is, where are they coming from?
	Why are they there?
	And what does the Defense Department know about it?
	Yeah, I think your point about the media is really well-founded.
	I talk about this sort of a lot on the shows.
	There are those known...
	There are people in legacy media that are essentially the scribes of the deep state or the Pentagon, and they're the ones that always seem to break the story about a very convenient leak, again, a selective leak designed to get us somewhere, not necessarily where we should be going, whether it's a cover, whether it's just enough to not get you all that curious or just outright lies.
	There are those who are no longer journalists, but their access...
	To any other kind of news is entirely contingent on them functioning as those kinds of scribes.
	You better write this article or you're basically out of the loop.
	It doesn't have to be true.
	I saw this with Russia, Russia, Russia.
	But it perpetuates the idea and the example of yet another government failure, a government that's lying to us and has been for decades.
	You know, and again, I guess the question is, just how far have they collectively gone to try to cover this up, right?
	You know, if it's a few people, it's one thing.
	If they're actively using, you know, perhaps criminal behavior in taking this out, if they're perjuring themselves before Congress, that's a serious problem and there should be accountability.
	Don, the people that are appearing on my show at 8 p.m.
	Eastern Time on NewsNation on Saturday night are alleging...
	Murder.
	They believe people have been murdered to cover this story up.
	They believe that as part of the cover-up to stop the American public from finding out about the UAP retrieval and reverse engineering program, not only has there been mass manipulation through mass media, movies, the media, the general news media, there's also been outright lies and at times threats.
	People have been told they would be killed and allegedly...
	People have been killed.
	And one of the reasons these men are coming forward is because they became concerned that their lives were at risk.
	They were involved in an investigation into data that went missing from within the program.
	And in the course of their attempts to retrieve that data, they believe that there may well have been an attempt by their employer to kill them.
	Yeah, and I think we've all, this is a story, well, probably as old as time, but certainly, you know, I've been party to some of this stuff.
	You know, magically, all of the telephones of the people involved in Russia, Russia, Russia, all of the 38, whatever it was.
	They all go missing.
	Everyone magically lost their cell phone.
	I don't know that I've ever lost my cell phone, Russ, but the 30 people involved, all of them magically lost their cell phones and all the text messages went away.
	We saw that magically.
	All of the details during the J6 investigation, it just disappeared.
	It just went away.
	It went up in smoke.
	It seems to be yet another example of that where it's clearly a cover-up.
	Oftentimes the cover-up is worse than the crime, or at least that's where the accountability comes in.
	But how much further do you think they'll go to prevent this from coming out?
	Well, I think we're at a tipping point right now, Don.
	They know your dad's coming in, and they know he's pledged to get to the bottom of the deep state.
	And I'll be honest with you, I thought the deep state was nonsense when your dad first started talking about it a few years ago.
	I thought, oh, that's just paranoid nonsense.
	But then even people inside the intelligence community started telling me that, yes, there really is this cabal of people who take it upon themselves with extraordinary arrogance to dictate that the president...
	You know how they talk about the president?
	They describe the president as a temporary employee.
	That's how they see the world.
	They think they control the national security state.
	And as you would know, as your dad would know, as people who understand the Constitution would know, the president is the commander-in-chief.
	The president has the right to know about everything.
	He has a security clearance above everything else, and he can declassify everything.
	Instantaneously.
	If your dad wanted to, he could walk into office on Monday and mandate that this program be revealed.
	Now, I think there are a lot of people I can tell you inside the program who think it's time this was done, who think it's time the public was not lied to anymore and the truth was told.
	Because we really are at a tipping point.
	If it's true, and I believe it is, that there are technologies that are being studied and explored that would revolutionise power, that would revolutionise propulsion systems, is it a good thing that we're trying, and frustratingly apparently, to reproduce them for the purposes of military advantage, when this could be of benefit for the whole country?
	The whole world could benefit from these discoveries.
	These scientific discoveries could be a paradigm change for the human race.
	And what's happening is, apparently, there are people who've taken it upon themselves to make the decision that this needs to be kept secret in order to give America a military advantage.
	But Don, they've had 70 years to do this.
	They haven't shown any sign of this breakthrough yet.
	And the scientists that I'm talking to who are telling me they will come forward, they will testify if they're given the chance, they just need that assurance.
	They need somebody to show the spine that they can be reassured and come forward with the evidence they've got.
	They will tell you, they will tell the Congress and they will tell the American people that this research is being frustrated by this ridiculous secrecy.
	And right now, Don...
	The Chinese and the Russians are secretly working on their own recovered non-human technology.
	This is an open secret between the foreign adversary powers.
	Nobody wants to admit it publicly because nobody wants to show their hand to reveal how far advanced they are.
	But I would argue that there's nothing stopping the president from coming forward and saying, yes, it's true.
	We are not alone, but there are certain things we're not going to tell you, just like nuclear bombs.
	We're not going to tell you how to make a nuclear bomb.
	You've got no right to know that.
	But the public should have the right to know that the American government is secretly working on retrieved non-human technology.
	It's an absolute scandal that this has been kept from the public for 60, 70, 80 years.
	and good men like David Grush came forward and gave evidence about this to me with News Nation in 2023 when he went public and exposed all he knew.
	And you know what they did to him?
	They took away his security clearance and they did that to try and shut him up.
	And they then ran a disinformation operation about his PTSD and tried to suggest that he was mentally unstable.
	And you know what's happened to investigate any of his allegations?
	that he loyally and patriotically came forward to give evidence about?
	Sweet FA. Almost nothing.
	And that's the disgrace here, is that your Congress has allowed itself to be manipulated.
	The people who should be doing the oversight, the politicians, they've lost their spines.
	They are a bunch of jellybacks.
	There was a time in history when monstrous crimes were committed inside government, and these were exposed by...
	By politicians who had a patriotic recognition of the duty they owed to the American people.
	Now they're a bunch of spineless jellybacks.
	They're absolutely weak.
	And at the same time, as you pointed out, we have access journalism, where journalists have forgotten how to do investigative journalism.
	And all they do is go to their tame little PR people to be given access to the stories that they're allowed to tell.
	And sure enough, when the Pentagon's UAP office last year came out with a supposed investigation that explained that there was no evidence of extraterrestrial engagement with this planet, A certain masthead newspaper gleefully reported Pentagon finds no evidence of UAPs or aliens.
	And it's just the same tired line all the time.
	And I don't know if Americans are buying it anymore because I get thousands of people contacting me every week who are angry that this is being kept from them.
	And when I do my stories on NewsNation, we get millions of viewers because people are...
	Angry that this is being kept out of the mainstream media.
	And what's happening, and this is why shows like yours are exciting, it's like the mainstream media is making itself irrelevant.
	And if it doesn't engage with this issue and cover this issue, we're just going to walk on by.
	And that's what Jake and his team reveal in the story that we're doing this weekend at 8pm on Eastern Time on NewsNation.
	We are basically...
	Reporting that they are now going to do private crash retrievals.
	They are going to do what the military is covering up.
	And there's a new company called Skywatcher, which is going to come forward publicly, and it's going to reveal that it can do retrievals, and it's being funded by private equity.
	And good people from the private industry, people with that same free enterprise initiative that you talked about earlier, they're going to do what the government is failing to do.
	They're going to tell the public the truth.
	They're going to come forward and reveal this program.
	And they're going to leave the military and the defense national security complex behind because they've failed.
	They've failed to reverse engineer a lot of this technology.
	And the reason why is because this stupid bureaucratic secrecy has Well, I mean, that's pretty amazing.
	So we mentioned, obviously, we have a new administration coming into power in five days.
	What would you love, ideally, for that new administration to address as it relates to these findings?
	What are the things they do need to acknowledge and get out there?
	What are some of the things they may want or need to keep secret?
	And where do you expect the story to go from there?
	Well, you know, Don, it's funny, as a journalist, I would rarely do this.
	But one of the things that was recommended by Chuck Schumer in the previous administration, or the current administration, was a really laudable idea that was actually backed by both sides of the House.
	And it was the idea of a presidential records review panel that looks at all of the UAP information that's held secretly within the government and makes a decision about declassification.
	Because the worst thing that could happen...
	Is catastrophic disclosure.
	I know that there are things that the public shouldn't know.
	I mean, I'm aware of operations that are going on involving reverse engineering that I genuinely do accept shouldn't be made public.
	But there are other things that I think should be made public.
	And I think what's happened is the secrecy has been used as an excuse.
	I had a conversation recently with somebody who has a lot of gold braid on their shoulder.
	And I said to them, sir, is there any good reason why the public can't know that there is a non-human intelligence engaging with this planet?
	And he laughed at me and he said, Ross, go for it.
	And he encouraged me to do this story.
	And I said to him, if there's a good reason why I shouldn't run this story, please tell me.
	And that's exactly what my friend, the whistleblower, Jake, has done.
	He's done entirely the proper thing.
	These guys are patriots.
	They've gone to the Pentagon.
	They've told the Pentagon what they knew.
	And you know what the Pentagon did?
	It covered it up.
	That's what they did.
	They lied to you.
	They lied to you, to the American public and to the Congress.
	And worst of all, Don, they've lied to presidents.
	And I think that's just unforgivable.
	The thing that I would recommend is that there should be a reckoning.
	This has to be done in public.
	There has to be transparency.
	The public has to see accountability.
	If you're looking for the deep state, if you're hunting for the bad guys who've done entirely the wrong thing and committed crimes and overspent the public's money, this is where you need to look.
	And I'm not saying this.
	The people I'm talking to in the program who so desperately want to testify, they're the people saying this.
	They want you...
	And your dad to scream from the rooftops about this and get answers.
	And I'm sure Lou, who's coming on later, is going to second this.
	And I'm sure David Grush, who spoke to me on NewsNation in 2023 and went public with his concerns, he's genuinely concerned that the attempts that he's made to get this heard inside government are being ignored.
	And it's basically because of the power of the defence aerospace and the national security establishment.
	President Eisenhower once warned that there was a danger in the military-industrial complex.
	And the irony, Don, is that it was probably President Eisenhower who was responsible for instituting the legal basis for the cover-up in the first place.
	And what he failed to realise was that the monster he would create would keep this secret for another 80 years.
	It's just incredible that this has been kept secret for as long as it has.
	And it really is time that it was brought out.
	And the only way that I can see it being done is in a measured way with this presidential records review panel.
	But more importantly, if I was your dad, I would be summoning Dr. Sean Kirkpatrick, the former director of Arrow, putting him in front of a blooming judge and deposing him and demanding that he tell the truth about what he was told by my whistleblowers.
	Because I know the Pentagon has been lying.
	And I don't know why they're lying.
	I don't know what pretext they're lying on.
	I don't know what flimsy national security excuse they're using, but this time they've gone way too far.
	And moreover, protections have been taken.
	If the aerospace company that hired these men tries to hide its involvement, they'd better be careful.
	So you're doing a multi-part series for News Nation on all of this.
	Where can people go?
	To learn more.
	Is there anything else you can tell us?
	Or we're going to have to stay tuned and watch this weekend.
	We'll be doing a full investigation on NewsNation at 8pm Eastern Time on Saturday night.
	That'll be the main story.
	You can watch my Reality Check show on YouTube.
	That's Ross Coulthard Reality Check, which is a NewsNation channel.
	And we will eventually be airing the full interviews with all of these whistleblowers for the public to see.
	And you will see ongoing stories covering this issue.
	There are so many angles and And one of the things I'm incredibly grateful for is there is at least one news organization that's still covering this story, despite all the others, and that's News Nation.
	They've stuck their neck up to back quality investigative journalism, and I thank them for it.
	Well, Ross Coldhart, thank you so much.
	Guys, make sure to check out more of Ross's UFO work on News Nation this Saturday.
	8 p.m.
	Eastern.
	We really appreciate your time.
	And as this breaks, I'm sure we'll be talking again in the not-too-distant future.
	Thank you, Ross.
	My pleasure, John.
	Good to talk to you.
	And have a word with the old man for me, please.
	I'm definitely going to do that.
	Like I said, you know that I'm interested.
	If I had one question, that was the one I wanted to know.
	So maybe we'll finally get to the bottom of it.
	Well, do me a favor.
	Get the answers for us.
	We all want to know.
	I'm working on it.
	Working on it.
	Promise.
	Thank you, Ross.
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	And now, for more reaction to our top story, UAP expert, former counterintel agent for the Pentagon, Lou Elizondo, is back with us.
	Lou, how you doing, buddy?
	Don, thank you so much for having me.
	You know, the old military saying, when you get my age, every day above ground is a good day.
	I'm not too far behind you, man.
	Maybe it just feels that way, but these last few years in politics have definitely aged me about a solid century, so I get it.
	But, Lou, I'd love to get your reaction to this new investigation.
	Obviously, you've been on the show a couple times.
	We've spoken about this.
	I know you've been looking into this stuff as part of your life's work in government and out.
	How do you digest all of that in the context of your work?
	Well, that's a great question, Don.
	It's a living contradiction, isn't it?
	A good portion of my career, almost 10 years, for the Pentagon and the intelligence community investigating UAP or the vernacular UFOs with your taxpayer money, only for the government to come out and pretend like, oh, we weren't doing any of that, right?
	Until finally they were caught red-handed and they had to tell the truth at least a little bit to what they could about the reality of the investigation that we were leading.
	I would like to say that Ross Coulthart, as an investigative journalist, a lot of people don't know this.
	He is not only a fantastic investigative journalist, he's also an attorney.
	So he looks at things a little bit more discerning than I guess maybe a lot of folks in the media does.
	And he also makes sure that every piece of information that he has is backed up by tangible information.
	And from what I've known about this, I've been following this for about a year and a half.
	Ross has kept this under wraps and needed some help from others in the special operations community, I'll say.
	For personal protection purposes for some of these individuals who were brave enough to come out and have their story told to the American people.
	But it was getting really dicey there for a while.
	So I've been following this topic.
	And exactly what you said and what Ross said, a tier one operator, think about that.
	We're talking America's finest, the best of the best, tip of the spear.
	Think of Delta Force.
	Think of that type of caliber of individual that when all else fails...
	They get sent to do a mission, right?
	They come with a warning, right?
	Only break glass in case of an emergency.
	So when you have a Tier 1 operator and their colleagues coming out and telling the American people, yes, I was part of a UAP program, a crash retrieval program, and here is what we did.
	And by the way, here's some of the bad things that occurred as well.
	I think America needs to listen.
	These are individuals that take polygraphs.
	They have psychological evaluations.
	On a regular and routine basis.
	And, you know, they are America's finest.
	I'm frustrated because you talk about my life's work here.
	For example, Congress just had an opportunity to create a UAP subcommittee.
	And one would think with all the nonsense going on with drones and Chinese balloons and UAP, that at least Congress would be able to stand up a subcommittee, not even a committee, a subcommittee.
	On what the heck's going on in our skies, and they couldn't even do that, right?
	Meanwhile, you have people like Tim Burchette and Burleson and Nancy Mace and Anna Polina doing their very best to try to get the truth out to the American people, and yet they're being stymied internally by what?
	By bureaucracy and politics.
	And so it's very, very frustrating to see, but I am also very, very optimistic that this story that's coming out is going to change the landscape.
	So I also know you're putting together some critical recommendations as our nation continues to grapple with these findings.
	Specifically, how does this all relate to specific policy goals, and especially our policy towards drones and other types of aircraft?
	Yeah, fantastic question.
	Look, here's the bottom line.
	After 9-11...
	You would have thought we have learned our lesson, especially with what we call U.S. Aero Domain Awareness.
	What is going on in our skies?
	And so for 20 years, we've been telling American people nothing to see here, folks.
	We're safe.
	We know everything in our sky.
	The truth is that is absolutely opposite of what's actually going on.
	We don't have a clue what is in our skies.
	As highlighted, which you've highlighted before, Chinese spy balloons just wafting, you know, completely unchallenged.
	Over our North American airspace.
	Drones in New Jersey, New York, Maryland, Virginia, Florida, California, Oregon, right?
	Same issues that we're seeing overseas with some of our joint bases, like in the UK, where they're having drone issues, right?
	Call them drones, call them whatever you want.
	Bottom line is, the administration's response to that is, well, they're not ours, they're not enemies, we don't know whose they are, but nothing to worry about here, folks.
	Let's just go ahead and turn the page and they're all being flown lawfully.
	You do not shut down military airspace.
	Because someone is flying a drone lawfully over your airspace, over your airbase.
	So we've got a problem, and I think Ross is absolutely right.
	You, people like yourself, people like your father, who want answers, understand how the bureaucracy works.
	We need to have some concrete recommendations that someone like your father and his staff, by the way, great cabinet picks.
	Have the ability to do something with.
	So we have been making recommendations, for example, a national strategy on what we're calling emerging technologies in our airspace, multi-domain, right?
	So whether it's a drone or it's a new type of reconnaissance aircraft or it's a UAP, someone needs to be able to tell your dad if he asks a question and give him an answer in five minutes, not five hours, not five days, not five weeks or five months.
	Immediately.
	So another recommendation is to have some sort of, I know it's a bad word, but kind of like we have a border czar and a drug czar.
	Have an air domain czar that can work with the DNI, Director of National Intelligence, work with NIM Aviation, the National Intelligence Manager for Aviation, work with the FAA, work with the Pentagon, work with Arrow, and be able to give your dad the information that he needs when he needs it.
	It's really not that tough.
	A couple executive orders.
	I think your father had stated that his first day in office, he plans to maybe send out quite a few executive orders.
	I think it's a great idea.
	I mean, hallelujah.
	What a fantastic idea.
	There's four draft executive orders right now that are kind of floating around the zeitgeist that talk about whistleblower protections, right?
	That talk about creating a single belly button, a flow of information, creating a whole of government approach, bringing the scientific and academic communities into this conversation.
	And then also be able to give people like your father and his cabinet oversight of what actually is going on, who is spending money on what activities as they relate to UAP. Look, this story is going to be a big story.
	I happen to know already some of the things that are going to be discussed.
	And I got to tell you, people better buckle up because it's going to be a wild ride.
	You ask me personally, Don, I'll tell you, I think America can handle the truth.
	I think America deserves the truth.
	That's the reason why I left the Pentagon in 2017 out of protest, even back then, because I thought, I think America deserves the truth.
	So how many of these issues, Lou, are ones of national security?
	And what do you think that line is between the need for government transparency and secrecy?
	I mean, we talked about that a little bit with Ross.
	I mean, I could definitely see certain things we wouldn't want there to be out there, especially if we have...
	You know, information that could lead to, you know, whether it's military dominance or, you know, more effective propulsion units.
	But should there be a push to make some of these cover-up programs a little bit more public?
	Yeah, absolutely.
	Look, and I've always said for the record, if I ever have to choose between national security and serving my country and disclosure, I'll always choose national security.
	If it's legitimate national security.
	What I don't agree with is obfuscation and calling something classified simply because you're embarrassed or because you're trying to cover malfeasance.
	And that is what we're dealing with with this topic.
	Because for decades, money has been siphoned off without letting Congress know, without letting the president know, and making decisions unilaterally on behalf of somebody like, i.e., the president.
	And you're talking about a middle manager who does not have that authority.
	I think there are reasons to keep things classified.
	As Ross said, look, it's not a classified fact that we have nuclear weapons and that North Korea has atomic and nuclear capabilities.
	Now, how those things actually work, we're going to keep classified.
	If you want to protect sources and methods or certain capabilities to field the technology, yes, I would never want that information being provided to a foreign adversary.
	The problem is, Don, I think we're already behind the eight ball.
	Because as already mentioned, our adversaries are already investing into this topic and are already doing research and they have no problem spending money doing it and being open and honest with their own individuals.
	Meanwhile, here in our country, we have this weird show game where we're pretending to ourselves that we're not doing anything, which is complete opposite because I and my colleagues were doing something back in the Pentagon and there was programs before that and there were programs after that.
	Well, under Biden, we've seen obviously really a lack of urgency in even telling us what these mysterious drones in the sky were.
	It seems like, I don't know, I have a hard time buying that our intelligence agencies don't know what it actually is or where they're actually coming from.
	We talked about that last time you were on a few weeks ago.
	But then that story just magically fell out of the headlines.
	Do you anticipate more examples of these mysterious aircrafts?
	And how should we handle that?
	Yeah, Don, it's coming.
	If you don't want to see them, don't look into the sky.
	But yes, this conversation is going to continue to happen because more and more incidents are occurring.
	And if you asked me a year ago, are people just more sensitive to the fact that maybe UAP exists or is there an increase in UAP incidents?
	I was on the fence.
	I didn't know if we had enough data back then to suggest one way or the other.
	But I think now looking back, I think we can say definitively.
	These things are becoming a lot more bold.
	In some cases, they're stocking our Navy vessels and Coast Guard vessels that are out doing national security missions on our behalf.
	They're stocking our aircraft.
	They're interfering with our nuclear capabilities and equities, and they seem very interested in our sensitive military installations.
	Now, if that's not a national security issue, Don, I don't know what is.
	At that point, might as well just throw in the towel and we all just go ahead and give up and walk away from this great experiment.
	Which I don't think anybody would agree that's the right move.
	I think the right move is to enable the system to do the job that it was intended to do.
	We should not have people circumventing the process between Congress and the President.
	And I think this new President deserves to have all the tools and resources available to him.
	I mean, how big of a deal is it to create a UAP subcommittee in Congress?
	It's a pretty easy lift.
	We have it for...
	Things out there that are, frankly, probably quite ridiculous.
	And yet, for something as important as this, we've already had our intelligence community come out and say, yes, UAP are real.
	We may not know exactly what they are, but they're real.
	How can we neglect that?
	What are we missing as Americans?
	Why are we not standing up and writing our elected officials and standing up on the table and banging our fists and saying, no more?
	We've got to level with the American people.
	We've got to be honest.
	And at a minimum, you've got to tell Congress and you've got to tell the President of the United States.
	And if not, you're wrong.
	There's no way around it.
	So talk about this for you personally.
	I mean, this is your career's work.
	You've dedicated countless decades to it.
	How do you digest all of these new developments?
	Well, I've been sensitized for a long time.
	Look, I was never a believer in the UAP topic at all.
	I came into this program chasing back.
	My background was counterterrorism and counterespionage and counterinsurgency, counternarcotics.
	My background is science.
	I went to school, University of Miami, studied microbiology and immunology.
	So I was never a science fiction kid.
	I tell people I was more of a G.I. Joe kind of kid than I was a Star Wars kid.
	But once you are exposed to the program...
	Like I was and others and my colleagues, there's no getting around the obvious.
	Look, you have objects there that are outperforming anything that we have in our inventory and have been doing it for decades.
	And if it's not ours, it's not a blue force capability, and it's not a red force capability, meaning adversarial, then it's somebody's.
	Whose is it, right?
	Where is it coming in from?
	How is it being able to operate in a way that there's not a darn thing we can do about it?
	Right?
	And so, historically, our response is, well, we just won't talk about it.
	We don't want to frighten the American people that there's something out there that we can't control, that we don't know what it's doing.
	And I understand that, but I think we are, look, here's the bottom line, and I don't know how to say this more simply.
	Your dad's going to go down in history as being the one who actually brought truth and transparency to this topic?
	Or they're going to go ahead and stonewall him, and it'll be another president, and somebody will come back and say, ah, you know, Trump really had a chance here.
	And I think that's a disservice.
	I think we need to give our presidents, it doesn't matter what type side of the aisle they're from politically, we need to give them the very best capability to succeed, because ultimately they represent the will of the American people.
	And I think people forgot about that.
	They're so interested in throwing stones at one political party or the other, they forget that we're supposed to all be on the same team.
	And, you know, whether you're liberal or you're conservative or anything in the middle, we need to enable our leaders in this country to make well-informed decisions because that impacts all of us.
	That's not a hey you, that impacts you.
	That affects me, that affects you, everybody in your audience.
	So I think we have a moral obligation to set this president up.
	For success and tell him the truth and give him all the information that he deserves so he can make an informed decision.
	So Congress can make an informed decision and our government can actually work for once.
	Well, Lou, I appreciate it, man.
	Great talking to you again.
	Really interesting.
	Looking forward to seeing that all this weekend.
	I may be a little bit busy, so I'm going to have to TiVo it.
	I'm sure you are.
	Even though it's online, I'm going to have to TiVo it and check it out a little bit later.
	But basically, come Monday after about 1 o'clock, I should probably free up and have time to check it all out.
	So I'm sure we'll be talking soon.
	Really appreciate you, as always.
	Thanks for being here.
	Always my honor and privilege.
	Thank you, sir.
	And thank you to your amazing audience.
	Thank you so much.
	Thank you, buddy.
	And guys, I'll be taking some questions and break down some of the other news in just moments.
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	Guys, before we wrap up, I've got to cover the amazing news out of the Middle East today.
	My father brokered a ceasefire between Hamas and Israel, and the hostages are getting released.
	Promises made, promises kept.
	I'm sure Biden, you know, I guess he's theoretically still president, even though it seems like the second election day got done.
	People like Hamas and others started saying, you know what, maybe we got to talk about this.
	And then last week you saw my father basically said, all hell is going to break loose if they don't release the hostages.
	Now that happened.
	Again, I'm sure the Biden administration is going to do a victory lap, but we all know how this happened and how this started.
	This is the Trump effect in action.
	And the Biden State Department and the spokespeople even admitted it today.
	Pretty amazing.
	When it comes to the involvement of President-elect Trump's team, it has been absolutely critical in getting this deal over the line.
	And it's been...
	Wow, I didn't expect that.
	But we've all been watching.
	We've all seen it.
	Daddy's home, and the world is responding.
	My father isn't even in office yet, and he's already delivering for you, the incredible people of this country.
	This is what you were told would happen during the campaign, and it's coming true.
	The winning has just begun, and I imagine none of us are sick of it yet because we've got to do a lot of winning to overcome these last four years.
	These next four years, however, are going to be truly incredible.
	It's an opportunity like we've never seen before.
	Joe Biden is in complete denial.
	He tried to claim today that it's a joke to say this deal was created by the new administration.
	The doubt the hostages and the family...
	I doubt that they think it's a joke, folks.
	I just don't think there's any doubt there.
	I think they understand exactly how this happened because everyone knows that real leadership, real resolve, real strength is coming back to the White House in five days.
	And meanwhile, guys, Pete Hegseth, our appointee, absolutely, absolutely dominated his hearing yesterday.
	Remember, Joni Ernst came out against him very hard, and all of you guys, perhaps with the help of people like myself, went after her a little bit.
	Now, she had a change of heart and a change of tune and came out after the hearing and said that she will now be voting for him.
	And so he was adequately able to answer all of my questions.
	He pointed out the woke issues at the Pentagon.
	And I think we're at a point where now we can start moving forward.
	People know where he stands on these issues.
	So I felt it was a good hearing.
	I thought it was a good hearing for him.
	Does he have your vote?
	I am breaking news, Simon.
	I figured you would ask this.
	So, yes, I will be supporting President Trump's pick for Secretary of Defense, Pete Hegseth.
	There you go.
	I think that's incredible.
	If you look at some of the memes that were out there, they were equally incredible.
	You actually saw the cat meme in action.
	Some of the memes of Pete just sort of sitting there while some ranting, lunatic Democrats tried to do their thing.
	He just remained calm, collected, and absolutely crushed it.
	Pete's a great friend, but he's also a great warfighter.
	He's a great American.
	He's going to do an awesome job in there.
	And most importantly, I think he has the confidence.
	Of the door kickers.
	Of the guys on the ground.
	Of those actual war fighters.
	Not the bureaucracy.
	Of the war fighters.
	And that's what we need to actually start winning wars.
	That's what we need to solve the disastrous recruitment program because someone doesn't want to necessarily report to a trans admiral.
	So, big deal.
	An awesome start to this confirmation process.
	And in case you missed it, here is absolutely embarrassing.
	It's nuts.
	Elizabeth Warren.
	During the hearing, you're going to like this one.
	In your words, you're quite sure that every general who serves should not go directly into the defense industry for 10 years?
	You're not willing to make that same pledge?
	I'm not a general, Senator.
	You'll be the one, let us just be clear, in charge of the generals.
	So, yeah, as we've discussed, that's a big one, right?
	We don't want these generals going in, being generals, and then going out and working for Boeing and Raytheon because it kind of, let's just say, creates a very big disincentive for them to complain about faulty programs.
	It creates a huge disincentive for them actually maybe, I don't know, negotiating on the price of these trillion-dollar contracts for fighters and missiles and whatever it may be.
	So, yeah, we don't want those people to then go profiteer off of their exit ramp.
	Lastly, we now have pictures of Karen Bass at a cocktail party in Ghana as Los Angeles went up in flames.
	She wasn't getting emergency declarations approved.
	She wasn't securing additional resources.
	She was at a party in another country as the fires were worsening and her city was burning to the ground.
	People lost their homes.
	Their lives, their loved ones, many lost everything.
	There is no good explanation for this.
	Five days before this cocktail party, Bass was warned of the extreme fire conditions.
	You'd think if you were warned about those things, maybe it's your job as a leader to actually then deal with it.
	Why was she in Ghana?
	It's just another example of why leadership matters.
	And most times...
	And when so-called leaders are absent, residents back home suffer the most.
	Guys, I'll go into the live chat for a few minutes.
	I only got a couple minutes left.
	It's going to be a crazy week, so maybe if you throw up some good questions, I'll get to them.
	If it's a lot of trolling, I probably won't, and I'll just go to dinner.
	But let's get into a couple of those, guys, and we will see what you come up with.
	It's totally up to you.
	We could be here for a while or we could be out of here pretty quickly.
	This is the only time I've ever had a problem rewinding this stream.
	You want rewind privileges?
	Well, I don't know if we can do that live.
	That's probably more of a rumble question.
	Obviously, you could go back and listen to all of these things shortly after we're done and it's sort of fully uploaded and it'll then stay in my sort of account feed.
	So you'll be able to check it out that way.
	Maybe we can do something about that, but we'll try to...
	Okay, so the best, Christina, I rewind live.
	So it seems like it's able to be done.
	Maybe one of your settings is off, but if you missed some of it, definitely go check it out.
	Start from the beginning.
	If you can't rewind now while we're live, you should be able to do it, but it seems like others are able to do it.
	So perhaps it's in your settings how we're doing it.
	So Gavin Newsom2028, what are your thoughts, Don?
	There are still people that are going to vote for these incompetents.
	He's out there blaming Trump somehow.
	Trump hasn't been in power in four years.
	In 2018, he was in California the last time they had a disastrous fire.
	He warned about these things.
	He told specifically of the things that they were not doing as it relates to water.
	They were not doing as it relates to the foliage that went up in smoke.
	They had the warning days before.
	Again, Trump's not even in power yet, but he did call all of these things.
	He spoke on it in Rogan.
	So that's the problem.
	You can be right.
	You can be proven to be right.
	The left will still say it's climate change.
	Just so we're clear, I think I read the stat.
	You know, the climate has moved up on average in the last 75 years since they got accurate predictions by 0.2 degrees.
	0.2.
	Just 0.2 degrees.
	Not 2 degrees.
	I don't even think that would matter much.
	But 0.2 degrees.
	It has nothing to do with climate change, morons.
	It has nothing to do with Trump.
	It has to do with you guys knowing these things and being incapable of doing it.
	It also then has to do with failed leadership, disastrous responses, because people are too concerned about pushing their woke ideology, whether it's DEI hires and so on and so forth.
	I think everyone finally gets that now.
	It's unfortunate it takes this kind of disaster to actually get to that point, but perhaps, perhaps one day...
	People will wake up.
	Where is President Trump getting inaugurated?
	Are people speculating it will be other places now?
	He's going to get inaugurated on the Capitol.
	That's going to be swearing-ins at noon on Monday, the 20th of January.
	That's going to be a huge day for so many Americans who finally have hope that their country may have another chance at survival.
	There are so many people that have come up to me, incredible small business owners, some big business owners.
	They're now investing.
	They're taking those chances.
	They're becoming entrepreneurs.
	People believe they have a chance again, guys.
	So I'm super excited about that.
	Very excited about that potential.
	And, you know, just really looking forward to Monday, looking forward to some of those immediate executive orders, looking forward to hopefully getting, you know, finalizing peace in the Middle East and then going on to Ukraine and, you know, getting there eventually.
	These are complex and long things, but if there's someone that can actually do it, it's going to be my father.
	Now, you'll see the games that the media will play.
	The Ukraine one, I already see that one coming, right?
	We have been led to believe by the mainstream media for the last three years and change, That Ukraine is winning.
	Now, that's not accurate, right?
	You can see how they've been pulling back.
	You can tell, you know, based on, you know, even, I've even heard, I think it was Elon talking about it, you know, Starlink, the bases that they're using for communication, you just see them receding every day.
	They're just going back and back and back and back, and that's probably what Ukraine sees.
	Not giving up anything secret, but you can see where these terminals are, and you can realize that they're moving back.
	They're not winning.
	But the mainstream media has told us, because, you know, every once in a while, Ukraine shoots down a jet or, you know, They shoot a Jeep and it's a major victory.
	They withdraw from a quadrant of the country and it's a strategic withdrawal, folks.
	So the real problem is they've created a thing and they continue to do this with the endless funding and whatever, that any deal that my father, his team, JD, whoever else is going to be involved, makes is going to appear to be a bad deal because people are basing their decisions and that people are basing their reaction to that on BS. They're basing it on our false information because they've been told that Ukraine is overperforming and they're winning this thing.
	And if you give them a couple more weeks and they'll be marching into Moscow, it's nonsense.
	They are losing this thing.
	They are losing it and have been from day one.
	And even if we spend a quarter of a trillion dollars or a lot more doing it, that's going to continue to happen.
	They are on the border of Russia.
	We are 6,000, 7,000 miles away.
	It ain't the same.
	Our guys, our people, Our citizens are sick of the endless wars.
	We don't want to put American boots on the ground.
	We don't need to.
	So remember that as we start this process, because it's very hard to convince someone that everything that they've been being told, despite what they should understand after watching for the last nine years, but everything they've been told about Ukraine and their performance for the last few years, they are not winning.
	Okay?
	That means...
	They'll likely have to give something up, in my opinion.
	That's how negotiation works in the real world.
	That's how negotiation plays out when you actually are dealing with the real facts.
	There's a difference between the narrative and the truth.
	If people base the decision on what's going on in the narrative, yeah, Russia's going to become a part of Ukraine imminently, guys.
	For another $12 trillion in your children's future, if we spend all of that...
	And destroy America, they too can take over Russia.
	It's nonsense.
	So just remember that because I can see that one coming already.
	That's the next one.
	That's a really big one.
	And so really looking forward to that.
	Obviously, you have the stuff going on with Panama.
	You have the stuff going on with Greenland.
	I call it MAGA-fest destiny.
	There is manifest destiny where America should expand and grow and all of this.
	We may have an opportunity for MAGA Fest Destiny, where America actually takes its rightful place as the leader of the free world once again, and hopefully once and for all.
	So with that, folks...
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