April 1, 2024 - Triggered - Donald Trump Jr
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| you hey guys welcome to another huge episode | |
| of Triggered. | |
| I hope everyone had an incredible Easter. | |
| Despite some of the blasphemy we've seen from the White House, normal Americans still hopefully have an incredible time today. | |
| Celebrating one of the holiest holidays, if not the most holiest holidays of Christianity, and have an amazing time with their families. | |
| Now, given everything that's going on, normally I'd make an April Fool's joke today. | |
| But honestly at this point guys, what's more of a joke than real life right now? | |
| The entire country is just one big punchline. | |
| That is sad, but unfortunately that is also true. | |
| And on today's show we're going to be talking with Jack Posobiec and his co-author Joshua Lysak. | |
| They have a new book that's coming out shortly called Unhumans, The Secret History of Communist Revolutions and How to | |
| Crush Them. | |
| The and how to crush them part is really critical. | |
| As I said, it's coming out this summer. We can pre-order it now. | |
| But it's not just a complaint book. It's actually what we can do about it. | |
| And if you think that this stuff isn't going on, apparently you weren't paying attention over Easter weekend. | |
| This is not just a book going after the radical left. | |
| It's really a tool book on what you can do to fight back and to end this madness once and for all. | |
| And again guys, it is perfect timing given the news over the weekend | |
| that the left's deliberate attempts to denigrate American Christians | |
| and to undermine their values and all those values that make this nation so great. | |
| There could not be a more critical time for something like this. | |
| So this is going to be a must-see interview and you're going to actually learn a lot. | |
| But first, we've got to give you a rundown of these insane headlines that I'm talking about. | |
| For you, for me, for millions of other Americans and Christians, yesterday was Easter, the holiest of our holidays. | |
| But it was a different type of holy day for Joe Biden and the radical Democrats. | |
| They didn't really celebrate Easter, that's just a punchline. | |
| For them, yesterday was Transgender Visibility Day, folks! | |
| Yeah, it's a big holiday. | |
| Really famous. It's been around for decades. | |
| Or days. Or weeks. | |
| Maybe. Maybe two or three years. | |
| Who knows? They make this stuff up as they go. | |
| It's not a real holiday, of course. | |
| And of course, they didn't drop it on Easter Sunday for any real purpose. | |
| Right, folks? They would never do something like that. | |
| It's not all part of their attempts to destroy everything decent about our country and what's left of it. | |
| The whole thing was touted by Joe Biden, his press secretary, scores of White House officials, and Democrats across the country as this wonderful thing. | |
| Democrats think this fake holiday, which is apparently only created in the past few years, is a bigger deal than Easter. | |
| Joe Biden's ex-account released a statement yesterday, specifically referencing trans-Americans on Easter. | |
| Because they don't get enough attention in the world, folks. | |
| Literally the most protected class of Americans in all of society are the trans, right? | |
| You can murder people and have a journal and nothing's ever going to come from it. | |
| Their motives? Always unknown. | |
| I wish everyone got that benefit of the doubt. | |
| and Democrat governors Gretchen Whitmer and Gavin Newsom released videos commemorating Trans Visibility Day. | |
| There were no videos from either of them on Easter, obviously. | |
| That would be, I don't know, like, decent, human, normal, all of those things that have totally left the Democrat | |
| Party. | |
| Democrats celebrating this new woke holiday during Easter is not a coincidence, folks. | |
| If you think it's a coincidence, you have not been watching literally everything that they do day in and day out. | |
| They are purposely insulting Christians. | |
| As someone pointed out on Twitter, if National Pork Day fell on the same name as Ramadan... | |
| Would Joe Biden issue a statement celebrating National Pork Day? | |
| Of course he wouldn't. | |
| But, on Christians, it's open season. | |
| And we pretty much saw that dynamic this weekend. | |
| At St. Patrick's Cathedral, when pro-Hamas demonstrators interrupted Easter service. | |
| Uh, you think if, I don't know, maybe the roles were reversed. | |
| Say, it was a group of MAGA hat-wearing conservatives that took over a mosque... | |
| You think it'd be the same? | |
| Guys, there would be indictments for hate crime charges flying like you've never seen before. | |
| You know it's true. I know it's true. | |
| They know it's true. Everyone knows it's true. | |
| That's the world in which we live. | |
| Right now. In America. | |
| In 2024. And get this, folks. | |
| The White House has a Spanish-language Twitter page. | |
| On that page, they issued an Easter celebration statement. | |
| Huh. But there was nothing on the so-called... | |
| Major holiday, Transvisibility Day. | |
| Why is that, huh? | |
| I wonder. It's almost as though Democrats know that their anti-Christian message is repellent to Latino voters. | |
| It's probably repellent to everyone except for a few lunatics on the radical left, but even more so to religious Latino voters. | |
| They only push it for their deranged, white, liberal, Rachel Maddow viewing base. | |
| Hmm. I'm shocked. | |
| I'm shocked. Now, after this weekend's blasphemy, we may have gotten a sign from God himself. | |
| Thunder and lightning delayed the start of the White House's annual Easter egg roll. | |
| I don't know, guys. | |
| Maybe? Maybe that's what it is. | |
| Like, flood it again. | |
| Meteor 2025, if Joe Biden magically wins this one again by cheating, obviously. | |
| But maybe at that point, we just deserve it. | |
| And by the way... | |
| The trans, they're perfectly visible, folks. | |
| In the Biden White House, they are perhaps more visible than literally any other demographic in America. | |
| You can see on the screen, right here, all the LBGTQIA plus, minus, negative, whatever days that are celebrated. | |
| This month, we'll have International Asexuality Day. | |
| I mean, because that's a big one. | |
| Don't forget that one, folks. | |
| That's basically like Christmas, Easter, Thanksgiving, all wrapped up into one special, radical, insane Democrat holiday. | |
| I can't wait. | |
| I cannot wait to read Joe Biden's statement on that one. | |
| Because you know it's coming, and you know it's going to be a doozy. | |
| And Biden's White House reportedly banned religious symbols from Easter celebrations. | |
| Remember, folks, this is an attack on Christianity. | |
| They would never do that. | |
| My eyes are rolling so far back into the head, they almost did a 360. | |
| Remember, folks, Biden's FBI, Biden's DOJ, treated Catholics like terrorists. | |
| If you were a practicing Catholic, you were a domestic terrorist. | |
| If you bought a Bible, you were marked by your banks, and that information was given to said FBI and DOJ. They think church-going patriots are terrorists, but not terrorists. | |
| Transgender school shooters. | |
| Those people are to be protected. | |
| There are manifestos to be hidden from view. | |
| There are motives unknown, but there was probably a great reason for it, right folks? | |
| These people are sick, and they're taking over our country. | |
| The mindset is so pervasive in government, in media, in tech, we need to say enough is enough. | |
| Speaking of the FBI folks, several videos have recently popped up showing FBI agents visiting people's homes over social media posts. | |
| Here's one example. | |
| Congratulations, I'm Tom Berry with the FBI. | |
| How are you? Is Ms. Anderson here? | |
| I'm not. She's not? Okay. | |
| I was hoping to see if I could have a couple of minutes of her time. | |
| She's not here. Okay. | |
| She's at work. | |
| Is there a chance I can make an arrangement to come back and talk to her? | |
| Or... | |
| What's it about? | |
| It's about the Baton Rouge subject. | |
| So what exactly prompted this visit? | |
| prompted this visit. | |
| According to the woman, Cam St. | |
| Martin, it was her tweet that said, quote, End quote. | |
| Wow. I mean, that really seems like it's deservant of an FBI visit. | |
| Remember all the grandmothers who took, like, selfie videos somewhere within 1,500 miles of January 6th? | |
| They got FBI visits. | |
| You know who doesn't get FBI visits? | |
| The people who actually end up committing these crimes. | |
| Remember? Well, he was a person of interest. | |
| We were watching that one, but he checked a couple boxes, so we couldn't actually do anything about it. | |
| That has become the norm, folks. | |
| In another video, an FBI agent visiting someone's home says he hassles people every day, all day long, over Facebook posts. | |
| This is apparently routine. | |
| It shouldn't be. But the FBI and their leadership and our DOJ have sent a very clear message who they believe are actual terrorists in America. | |
| And I can assure you, they're not actual terrorists. | |
| They're just patriots who believe in freedom and liberty. | |
| Meanwhile, folks, over in Denver, the liberals have decided that diversity is no longer our greatest strength. | |
| That's a shocker, because I was told that diversity is literally everything. | |
| It is the greatest thing imaginable. | |
| No one has yet been able to articulate for me why that is the case. | |
| I imagine that probably holds true for all of you. | |
| And when you ask the question, they sort of look stupidly into the air and have nothing. | |
| But... Apparently, Denver now no longer believes that diversity is their greatest strength. | |
| Denver has been overrun by illegal immigrants. | |
| And Democrat city officials are now telling them to go to Chicago and New York instead. | |
| Huh! Who could have seen this coming, folks? | |
| I don't know. I don't know. | |
| It's almost like if you had a brain or even a model of common sense, you would have noticed. | |
| Watch this news report and see for yourself. | |
| The city of Denver is offering a stark warning to newly arriving migrants. | |
| Stay here and you will suffer. | |
| Denver's offering migrants help to move on to anywhere else in the country. | |
| Tonight, for the first time, we're able to see how Denver tries to convince migrants to leave in video obtained by Next from Inside a Migrant Shelter. | |
| The opportunities are over. | |
| That's Andres Carrera, political director for Denver Mayor Mike Johnston. | |
| New York gives you more, Chicago gives you more. | |
| So I suggest you go there, where even with a longer term plan, | |
| there are more opportunities for work there. | |
| Carrera is Denver's so-called newcomer communications liaison. | |
| That means that he meets the busloads of new arrivals. | |
| The city says this group got here on March 26, sent up by Texas' Republican Governor Greg Abbott. | |
| He warns them the jobs, the resources, the opportunities have already gone to the 40,000 migrants who came to Denver before. | |
| If Denver is allowed to say that they can't take any more illegals, they are overrun, they cannot accommodate, it is too much of stress on their infrastructure and everything else, Why can't the nation say the exact same thing? | |
| How is that any different? | |
| This is a classical case of liberal hypocrisy. | |
| I wrote a book about liberal privilege. | |
| It is rampant, it is insane, and it is getting worse day by day. | |
| A blue city, a very blue city, says, we have too many illegals. | |
| And no one bats an eye. | |
| Because, of course they do. | |
| This is one of the few cases where these same crazy liberals are actually correct. | |
| But, but, if a Republican in the White House says that we have too many illegals, those same liberals are rioting in the streets. | |
| You're a xenophobe, a racist, a misogynist, a transphobe, you know, it doesn't matter. | |
| Just one of the phobes or ists or who knows. | |
| It doesn't matter. But you're it. | |
| Now, they can stay at all they want, and even if they're right, that's fine, but you can't buy this kind of stupidity, folks, but it's happening day in and day out. | |
| By the way, folks, in Boston right now, they are turning veteran housing into illegal immigrant housing. | |
| Yes, you heard me right. | |
| That says it all, doesn't it, folks? | |
| It tells us everything we need to understand about who the Democrat Party today prioritizes. | |
| If you cross the border illegally, like a month ago, Illegally, don't bring anything, have no education, are going to be a drain to the system forever. | |
| You're treated better by liberals and Democrats than if you spent literal years serving our incredible nation with blood, sweat, and tears. | |
| That's today's Democrat Party policy. | |
| Remember that video from the Texas border a couple of weeks ago, folks? | |
| When a mob of illegal immigrants charged National Guard soldiers overrun them? | |
| Well, a liberal judge in El Paso, Texas, just ordered those illegals released from jail. | |
| No penalty. | |
| No nothing. You can attack our servicemen. | |
| During an invasion, you will be released. | |
| You will probably be given these benefits. | |
| They'll take... Other veterans throw them out of their housing that I'd say they earned and deserve, and they will put the illegals in there. | |
| This country is becoming a total joke. | |
| I told you last week about Jonathan Diller, the New York City police officer who authorities say was killed by a career criminal in the line of duty. | |
| Well, New York Democrat Governor Kenneth E. Hochul showed up to his funeral, but she was | |
| asked to leave. | |
| Rightfully so, folks. | |
| Rightfully so. Her policies are the ones that are encouraging these things. | |
| These things are happening because Democrats want them to happen, because they will do | |
| nothing about them. You can literally hear clapping at the end of that video | |
| as she walks away. That's because Kathy Hochul's pro-crime policies put police | |
| officers in danger. This is not an exception in New York. | |
| It is the reality across blue states today. | |
| These are Soros-funded DAs. | |
| These are their policies. | |
| These are the soft on crime things that allow this stuff to happen day in and day out. | |
| And good Americans like Jonathan Diller are killed in the process. | |
| Jonathan Diller's widow, Stephanie, delivered a powerful eulogy during that funeral. | |
| She asked, how many more police officers and how many more families need to make the ultimate sacrifice before we start protecting them? | |
| Watch this and see for yourself. | |
| My husband died a hero, but he also lived as one. | |
| Our world will never be the same, but I know I speak for everyone when I say I could not be more proud of him. | |
| It's been two years and two months since Detective Rivera and Detective Mora made the ultimate sacrifice, just like my husband, Jonathan Diller. | |
| Dominique Rivera stood in front of all the elected officials present today, pleading for change. | |
| That change never came, and now my son will grow up without his father, I will grow old without my husband, and his parents have to say goodbye to their child. | |
| How many more police officers and how many more families need to make the ultimate sacrifice before we start protecting them? | |
| It's a good question, folks. | |
| It's a really good question. | |
| A question I am shocked that almost no one else, other than perhaps my father, maybe a few conservatives, myself... | |
| Are asking, how is this not a question at every dinner table across America at this point? | |
| These are no longer anomalies. | |
| These are happening day in and day out. | |
| It doesn't stop and it's escalating exponentially. | |
| As long as left-wing radicals are in office, criminals will be empowered and police will be in danger. | |
| It's not that hard. | |
| This isn't rocket science. | |
| It's common sense. | |
| Something that's been missing. | |
| Finally, you think you hate the fake news media? | |
| Well guys, you do not hate them nearly enough. | |
| They're pathetic. | |
| A new report reveals that they've been stealing from Air Force One for years. | |
| Politico wrote that it's shockingly common and a rite of passage. | |
| The story says for years, scores of journalists and others have quietly stuffed everything | |
| from engraved whiskey tumblers to wine glasses and pretty much anything else | |
| with the Air Force One insignia on it into their bag before stepping off the plane. | |
| And the article goes on to say that even gold rim plates and other valuable items have been taken. | |
| Like, what the heck, guys? | |
| Isn't it an honor enough just to fly on the plane? | |
| This isn't an April Fool's joke. | |
| This is all, sadly, totally real. | |
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| Joining me now, the co-authors of the forthcoming book, Unhumans, Human Events Editor Jack Posobiec and writer Joshua Lysak. | |
| Guys, good to have you on the show. | |
| I know a lot of guys obviously familiar with Jack, has been on the show numerous times. | |
| I do his show, we do our shows, we scream about communists. | |
| We both have some experience there. | |
| Joshua, good to have you on as well. | |
| Look forward to hearing all about it. | |
| My pleasure. Thank you. Thanks so much for having us on, Don. | |
| It's my pleasure, guys. These are important topics. | |
| I know, Jack, you and I, we talk a lot about communism because of the way we grew up. | |
| You in Poland, me in what was then communist Czechoslovakia in my summers with my mother. | |
| I think we all understand all too well how those systems work because we actually lived in them, unlike... | |
| The vast majority of people who advocate for those systems here. | |
| But the book's gotten so much buzz. | |
| Jack, I want to start by asking you, where did the book start for you? | |
| And what was the motivation in actually writing it? | |
| I know you've talked about it for a long time, but what makes you put pen to paper and get into the details? | |
| Sure. Sure. So this was based on a series of podcasts that I'd put together for Human Events Daily over the Christmas break over the past couple of years. | |
| And what we do is usually we take the Christmas break. | |
| You know, I'm not trying to do daily shows. | |
| There's not a lot of news too much. | |
| We want to spend time with the family. So we would do these deep dives into China. | |
| And we did that two years ago. | |
| And I did an entire series called The China Files, all about the history of the Chinese Communist Party. | |
| And then that just went off like gangbusters. | |
| And then we did another series this past year called The Chronicles of the Revolution. | |
| And we went through the French Revolution in France. | |
| We went through Russia. We went through Spain. | |
| We went through kind of the 1960s in the United States. | |
| And that took off well. | |
| And so that's kind of when we started to generate a lot of interest. | |
| and people said, hey, there's a lot going on here because what you're talking about that happened | |
| hundreds of years ago or decades ago, in some cases, it actually seems like it's happening yet | |
| again here in the United States. And so we talked to a bunch of publishers. Eventually, | |
| Tony Lyons and the guys over at Skyhorse were the ones that we settled with because they completely | |
| agreed that everything that we're seeing today focuses on many of the same playbooks and many | |
| of the same tactics that we've seen from these types of groups over the years. | |
| Now, they've been honed. | |
| Warfare has changed the same way that these revolutions have changed. | |
| The systems have changed. | |
| The tactics and the specifics have changed. | |
| But you look at some of it. | |
| So who do they target? | |
| They target the people who are successful. | |
| They target the people who achieve greatness, a word that you're familiar with. | |
| They target the people who actually want to do something for society, and they do so, | |
| and they claim it's all about equality. | |
| They claim it's about fairness. | |
| They claim it's about justice. | |
| Equity is the word they use today a lot, but we know what it really is. | |
| It's really about envy. | |
| It's really about anger. | |
| And it's about the fact that they were unsuccessful in life. | |
| And so rather than actually try to do something to better their own lot or better the communities, their own neighborhoods, they would rather tear down people who have been successful. | |
| And Don, I just got to say it with everything that's going on with your father and your family's business right now. | |
| It is exactly textbook classic communist tactics that have been brought into a neo-communist, neo-Bolshevik phase. | |
| And what this is, it's state-sponsored theft going after one of the most high-profile real estate developers the same way they've always gone after the landowners and the people who have been successful in every single one of these instances. | |
| Yeah, I mean, it definitely repeats itself. | |
| You always kind of figure out, like, what's their endgame, right? | |
| Their children are going to be worse. | |
| When you talk about, you know, worse off, right? | |
| You talk about the open borders. | |
| You see what's going on there. | |
| I'm like, you know, fine. | |
| You know, I get it's about power and voting, but, like, when your communities and your homes are going to be raided and terrorized, like, what's the endgame? | |
| And maybe Joshua, like, what are the signs? | |
| That a communist revolution is happening or will happen, whether it's here in the U.S. or where it's sort of a precursor to what happens around the world. | |
| And I guess while these radicals are sort of motivated by communist ideas, they're also backed by major billionaires, people who've done incredibly well with capitalism, people who are certainly not giving any of that up. | |
| You know, and that endless amounts of money, which is, again, sort of ironic. | |
| Is it just about hoarding that power for themselves once they've attained it? | |
| They just want to put up the roadblock and make sure no one else gets there? | |
| Yes, there's myriad factors taking place both in the funding of the communist revolution or what we're seeing now in the United States, which is an irregular communist revolution in which these sort of micro-revolts are led against specific individuals in order to neutralize them. | |
| They don't necessarily have to murder them in a high-profile way with waving the red flags and there being blood in the streets as in revolutions in the past. | |
| Now they're mostly satisfied with neutralizing them. | |
| Canceling them, for example, bankrupting them, for example, and in some cases driving their target to suicide. | |
| The objective of the neo-communist revolution, the sort of 2.0, is to take out people that they envy. | |
| Now, what sort of envy do we mean here? | |
| This gets to your other question about how we can tell one is coming. | |
| There's a military term called the operational preparation of the environment, one that, of course, Jack is familiar with. | |
| And in OPE, this is before an operation is launched. | |
| In the case of military, this is before troops go on the ground. | |
| This is intelligence gathering. | |
| This is figuring out who's who, where's the biggest threats going to be. | |
| And it seems that, through our research on this book, that communists do the same thing. | |
| And one way they prepare the environment, a.k.a. | |
| your society, for revolution, for uprising, is they find out who is going to be on their side. | |
| Who envies whom? | |
| Now, who whom, ironically, right? | |
| Now, we've changed from a... | |
| A little trans acknowledgement there to make sure they get the pronouns correct. | |
| Yes, the... | |
| Old classic Marxism was socioeconomic warfare of the classes, bourgeois versus proletariat. | |
| There was the obvious haves and have-nots. | |
| There was the peasant, and there was the entrepreneur. | |
| There was the laborer, and there was the management of it, right? | |
| But in our environment, it's a bit different, because in free market capitalism, any have-not can become a have with relatively little work, frankly, in today's day and age. | |
| And so the... | |
| But Marxists have to be a bit more cultural. | |
| So who are the oppressed groups? | |
| Well, critical race theory, critical gender theory, LGBTQIA2 +, MAP, or whatever all of the things are that they like to put out there. | |
| That's cultural Marxism. | |
| So what the forces of anti-civilization do... | |
| Every single time to prepare the environment is they first separate who's going to be with us and who are we going to attack? | |
| Who are we going to attempt to neutralize? | |
| And so we see how institutions that have endured the long march of cultural Marxists, they have officially sided with And they've allowed the infiltration of the oppressed classes. | |
| Now, you don't have to be literally oppressed. | |
| If, for example, you can say you're, or you can be, a member of a group, let's say black Americans, African Americans, let's say gay people, for example. | |
| If you can point to past oppression having happened to you in the past, then you can become, ironically, a beneficiary of Of that past oppression. | |
| Even if you have not experienced any oppression, and in fact you've been a beneficiary of, let's say, affirmative action. | |
| Let's say you have had more opportunity given to you than to others. | |
| You can still claim membership in this oppressed class. | |
| And so this separation, this operational preparation of our environment for an irregular communist revolution has been taking place since at least the 1960s. | |
| And we detail this process, of course, in the book. | |
| Jack, I know you write about it a lot, but what is the thing about communists that people don't understand? | |
| You talk about sort of the one thing that people don't quite get because it's not necessarily intuitive. | |
| So the one thing that most people don't get, and we get into this a ton in the book, whether you're a conservative, whether you're a liberal, you know, the good liberal, I'm sure there's some good liberals still out there, whether you're a centrist, you know, centrist, you're one of these middle-of-the-road guys, or even you're just someone who's not into politics, right? | |
| You usually assume, most people assume that other folks who are involved in politics get involved with the political process with good intentions. | |
| And most people cast their good intentions on their political opponents and say, I've got good intentions. | |
| Therefore, the person across the aisle from me must also have good intentions. | |
| We just disagree on the measures. | |
| We disagree on the policies that we have higher taxes, lower taxes. | |
| We have more programs or less programs, that sort of thing. | |
| What people get wrong about communists, and this is why we say that communists and today's cultural Marxists have embraced unhumanity, is that they don't have good intentions actually. | |
| They aren't interested in making society better. | |
| They're actually interested in making society worse. | |
| They want society to be destroyed. | |
| They want society to be brought down low. | |
| And people will ask the question all the time, they say, How can people still support communism if communism has killed 100 million people around the world? | |
| And I always point out you're asking the wrong question. | |
| They would say from their perspective that 100 million people died is just a good start. | |
| That's just a good start to the body piles and to the body count. | |
| And their goal is to increase it because they will say those people were against the revolution. | |
| Those people were – and you can think of the names. | |
| They were racist. They were patriarchy. | |
| They were white supremacists. We heard this. | |
| They were fascists. | |
| All of the exact same things. | |
| Even in the Chinese Cultural Revolution, which apparently this new Netflix show actually depicts for the first time they snuck it in there. | |
| One of the main things, and you see these videos of people with the card around their neck, the placard around their neck, and they're in these great stadiums surrounded by the chanting red guards holding up Mao's little red book. | |
| And because I spent time in China, because I speak Mandarin, if you read the placard under their names, that's their crime. | |
| So that's the crime they've been charged with. | |
| And there's no court. You're looking at the court, right? | |
| It's not too far off from the Manhattan courts today, by the way. | |
| Yeah, exactly. And we also get into in the book the French Revolutionary Courts, which guillotine was basically this or this, for the revolution, against the revolution. | |
| One of the charges, one of the most common charges these guys would get, and all the time, it was always priests, it was landowners, small business owners. | |
| One of the crimes they would get was being labeled as a quote-unquote right-wing extremist. | |
| This is exact communist nomenclature from the Chinese Communist Party, from the Cultural Revolution, which was a revolution in a revolution. | |
| You have to get the book. I can explain all that later. | |
| The phrase right-wing extremist has been used by communists to go after and mislabel normal people, successful people, people who in many cases aren't even interested in politics and going after them. | |
| And I think, I hope, I just hope, that if we can get people, and particularly conservatives, to understand That these guys, they don't care about double standards. | |
| They don't care about, oh, we've called them out for their hypocrisy. | |
| Oh, they're not giving us equal treatment. | |
| They don't want to give you equal treatment. | |
| They want you locked up. | |
| They want you in jail for 700 years like they're trying to do to your father. | |
| They want your businesses destroyed, and they want you penniless. | |
| This is their goal, period, full stop, end of story. | |
| Yeah, I keep trying to make that point on the show whenever I'm elsewhere. | |
| We're like, oh, the hypocrisy! | |
| I'm like, they don't care! | |
| There's Columbia law professors that think the New York stuff is insane, and they're radical liberals. | |
| I'm like, they don't care. | |
| They may say it, they understand it's a break to the system, but they're more than happy. | |
| The means justify the ends. | |
| If they get what they want in the end, all of... | |
| When we talk about... They scream about democracy, and they scream about fascism, while... | |
| Trampling on democracy and acting like fascists. | |
| They don't even appreciate the irony, but they have such large megaphones, whether it's big tech, whether it's the mainstream media, they have such a censorship apparatus that it doesn't matter. | |
| And the only thing I can say that I feel good about what's going on right now is it's so extreme. | |
| The pendulum has overcorrected so much that regular people are like, wait a minute, I'm supposed to believe my lying eyes. | |
| Right. And maybe Joshua can take this one, but my contention and I should say our contention in Unhumans and the book, by the way, just for everybody watching this, it's up on sale right now on Amazon because of the huge volume. | |
| We're in the top 30 on all of Amazon, which is really surprising. | |
| I have no idea if people wanted to hear this much about the history of communism, but apparently I think people are starting to get it, that it's on discount right now, $17.99. | |
| But the question is, Will it end on its own? | |
| Will it just peter out? | |
| Or do people actually have to do something? | |
| I'll pass that to Joshua. | |
| Yes. The patterns of the past, well, they don't necessarily tell us what's going to happen in the future. | |
| They do give us some clues. | |
| When we went back and we looked at the various communist revolutions and even governments that came about, we asked ourselves, what did it take to defeat them? | |
| Well, the first defeat of communism is, we like to call it, the Ouroboros option. | |
| That, of course, is the symbol of the snake eating itself. | |
| And here in the West, we have the term that the left always eats its own, the left eats itself. | |
| And this is true. Every single time communists were not stopped in the revolution, eventually they stopped themselves. | |
| Whether it was in the Soviet Union or in other revolutions or perhaps... | |
| In a dark, comedic way, during the Spanish Civil War, you had the wrong kind of communists being rounded up and executed by their own. | |
| There were devotees of Leon Trotsky, the contemporary of Joseph Stalin, who was the wrong kind of a communist. | |
| So you had actual communist revolutionary soldiers being arrested and then shot by their fellow communists. | |
| This is what the unhumans do. | |
| do. | |
| They rob and they kill and when there's a lack of potential victims of the oppressor | |
| class well then they just rob and kill each other. | |
| This is what they do. | |
| Every single time by the way. | |
| That is less than ideal, letting them eat themselves because eventually they're going | |
| to run out of innocent victims to attack. | |
| Are there other ways besides staying as far away from them as possible, kind of the George | |
| Kennan containment strategy, just let them stay over there in the eastern hemisphere, | |
| the southern hemisphere, just eat each other for a few decades and then we'll kind of wait | |
| it out here. | |
| Less than ideal in our context when the micro revolution could come for any of you who are | |
| You could be next. You could be the one who's targeted, dox, cancel, debank, deplatform, destroyed. | |
| Exactly. Yes. All of the above right here. | |
| Congratulations. Yes, yes. | |
| And so waiting it out is not ideal in the Communist Revolution 2.0 that we're currently experiencing. | |
| So what else is there? | |
| Well, there is the strong man, the great man of history, the one who, to repurpose a famous quote of Generalissimo Francisco Franco, wherever I am there will be no communism. | |
| Someone with the iron resolve of Franco, or in the context of a proto-communist revolution that Julius Caesar put down, or we could pick apart his methods, but Pinochet in South America. | |
| These are men who said, no, full stop, no, not going to happen, not on my watch. | |
| And of course we had that in the cultural Marxist context of the 1950s and 60s with Senator Joseph McCarthy, who was making a list and checking it twice, who was isolating those people who were subversives in the United States government and media and elsewhere. | |
| And unfortunately, in McCarthy's case, he was slowed down and brought to a halt. | |
| But that is one of the strategies, is when someone says no. | |
| And any one of us can be that one who says no. | |
| We can choose to be in our village, our town, our county, our city, whether it's a county sheriff, it could be a prosecutor, it could be a governor, it could be a state senator, it could be an entrepreneur, it could be someone like Elon Musk, who says no, wherever I am, there will be no unhumans. | |
| So, Josh, I mean, this is really, I mean, the book is a toolbook on how Americans can be informed and actually fight back. | |
| You know, what will the readers learn about doing just that? | |
| Because you talk about, you know, I think Elon, whether, you know, honestly, maybe Trump, some of these guys that are fighting back against these kind of things, that whether it's a direct fight, whether it's just sort of the undue attacks, you know, someone who's loved one minute and then attacked the next minute because he took on Even a minor aspect of, you know, the mandatory talking points and, you know, of today's radical left, you know, what do you learn in the toolbook? | |
| How can regular people do that? | |
| You know, again, they tried canceling me, they tried me for treason, they wanted to go after, like, it's fine. | |
| I'm blessed to have, you know, the means, you know, a fairly large sort of, you know, Apple box to stand on and scream from. | |
| Perhaps a little bit more resolve than most. | |
| I'm not that worried about losing my job or not being welcomed at the PTA meeting. | |
| I don't really care. Not everyone has that same ability. | |
| Or, you know, fortitude. | |
| How does the regular person fight back? | |
| What can they learn to be able to do that or at least be able to help? | |
| Yes, the best way to neutralize the forces of anti-civilization should they come for you is to turn the tables on them. | |
| And what communists do or Marxists, socialists, progressists, whatever they call themselves in any context, whatever they call themselves when they come for you, is to prepare your own environment for operation. | |
| That is, getting people on your side. | |
| Influencers, individuals who can speak on your behalf, who can advocate for you. | |
| Making friends with those key relationships, those key influencers in your world. | |
| It doesn't mean necessarily going online and posting about this or that national issue and complaining about that. | |
| It's taking action. Enough complaining. | |
| Enough outrage porn. | |
| It's time to do something for yourself in your own world, in your own career, in your own town or city, in your county, in your jurisdiction. | |
| Do you know the names of the chief of police, your county sheriff, the sheriff's deputies, the prosecutor? | |
| Are you campaigning for... | |
| People are supporting people who are going to protect you in the event that there is lawfare waged against you. | |
| And what about your own career? | |
| Are you anti-fragile? | |
| Can you withstand a cancellation? | |
| If you're doxed, if you're debanked, if you're deplatformed, Are you going to be okay? | |
| So these are specific things that every single person who may not be high profile, and therefore have the benefits of a high profile person, there are specific things that they can do, even if they're an everyman. | |
| And of course, it's the everyman, the eight to five, Wage earner, salaried professional who seems least likely to be targeted, but yet they're the most vulnerable. | |
| If you're successful, if you're hardworking, if you're law-abiding, if you're, let's say, if you're a white Christian male, for example, then guess what? | |
| You're an oppressor. You're in the class that has been condemned to being robbed and to being killed. | |
| And this is over the last 250 years of communist revolutions. | |
| So no matter how good you are, how nice you are, that's no defense whatsoever. | |
| Now speaking of what defense is going to work is the one thing that unhumans cannot stand. | |
| It is their bane. It is their kryptonite. | |
| It is their insta-poison. | |
| And that is laughter. | |
| Making fun of them, mocking them, humiliating them, pointing and laughing with all your mates, that causes them to shrivel up and go find someone somewhere else to play with. | |
| Yeah, and it feels like there's a great opportunity for that. | |
| You're right. I mean, I poke a lot of fun at it. | |
| It's what goes viral, you know, years. | |
| I mean, I was one of the early guys sort of making fun of like the trans women in sports kind of thing. | |
| And, you know, even on Twitter, like Twitter 1.0, which was like, you know, let's call it a 95.5 battlefield. | |
| You weren't going to give it up. But like, you know, people would get on there and I'm laughing about it and making a joke. | |
| And they're like... Man, I hate your guts, Don Jr., but you're actually right about this. | |
| I can't believe I'm agreeing with Don Jr. | |
| on anything. So it does feel like that, and it feels to me like we're also at a place where The things that you'd laugh about. | |
| Nomenclature. Words that would literally have gotten you cancelled two years ago for simply uttering. | |
| Stuff that was part of our vernacular growing up. | |
| Maybe a little bit older but all sort of in the similar age range. | |
| That was part of everyday vernacular. | |
| Would have gotten you cancelled two years ago. | |
| You see those terms just coming back and people don't care anymore. | |
| So it does feel like there's an opportunity there. | |
| What do you think? The other – if I can hop in, the other piece of it is in addition to mockery is – which is good by the way because mockery brings people to your side. | |
| Mockery is one of those things laughing and people who are having a good time. | |
| Nobody wants to be with the people at the party who are like scolding everybody and the people who are always saying stop having fun. | |
| People want to be with the side who are laughing and having a good time and – That clearly these days is the MAGA side, is the right, quote-unquote, or just the normals. | |
| I think at this point just the normal people. | |
| But the other piece of this is a word that conservatives for many years have been very scared of and a word that it doesn't even fit into their constitutional fortitude, and that's the word reciprocity. | |
| The idea that reciprocity, doing to them that which they do unto us and taking action because this is the only thing that the cultural Marxist actually fears is number one, being identified. | |
| That's number one. So being called out because the communist does not want anyone to find out who they really are. | |
| So basic things like pointing out Matthew Colangelo, who is this guy who had been the same person that was suing the Trump administration, then going to the DOJ, then going to Letitia James' office, and now finds himself in Alvin Bragg's office in every single one of the lawsuits, the civil suits, and now the criminal charges against President Trump. | |
| And it's like the same guy is running all of this? | |
| Hold on a second. What's going on? | |
| And then so your father, of course, names him and then he gets slapped with the gag order right after. | |
| Why? Right? | |
| Because they fear identification. | |
| They fear reciprocity. | |
| They fear any of it being actually turned on them. | |
| And that's why whenever you or anybody calls out like a journalist for lying or – which is all they do really. | |
| How do you know a journalist is lying? | |
| Because they're writing something that – That identifying them and turning any of the screws to them is the opposite of what they're supposed to want. | |
| So they will say – they will immediately scream, this is harassment. | |
| They will scream, you are targeting me. | |
| They will scream – they will claim that they're getting death threats even though there aren't any actual death threats that they ever show you. | |
| But there's a reason for it because they are terrified of just one frappe. | |
| One fraction of that amount of pressure being actually put on them. | |
| And that is what the right needs to embrace because I keep hearing this over and over. | |
| Even with the title of our book, we had people coming out saying, whoa, guys, on humans, that's a little mean. | |
| Don, could you imagine what would happen if we start calling the left... | |
| You know, mean words. | |
| They might start doing the same to us. | |
| And then where do we end? | |
| We should win by being better than them. | |
| We should take the high road. | |
| I'm like, well, I'm sorry, but if you're going to sit back and rush your principles and lose, yeah, no. | |
| Let's fight fire with fire. | |
| I have another one. It's called let's fight fire with fire. | |
| So, I always say, you know, we play football, they play hardball, they laugh as, you know, they win, you know, democracy, all these, there are soundbites that they laugh about as they trample, you know, all of these things. | |
| That said, I mean, there is a component of, you know, as conservatives, what we believe in, you know, are we going to break the law to do that? | |
| And it is a tough thing, right? | |
| I mean, they're clearly violating any of the rules and norms and decency and the Constitution on a daily basis. | |
| What is that line, though, where you just actually end up with chaos because there are no rules anymore? | |
| Well, that's right. And we don't certainly advocate for breaking the law or violence or anything like that in the book. | |
| It's basically like forming networks of people, networks of men, networks of moms that are out there and banding together. | |
| Now, obviously, there's different levels to this when we break it out in the end of the book. | |
| where and Joshua is actually just put together such an incredible system | |
| because I had the history side but Joshua had the the system side to all of it and and a system to | |
| derail cultural Marxism derail all of it at multiple levels all at once but we've got | |
| we've got the highest level that That's sort of the great men of means level. | |
| And the great men of means – look, not everybody can go and found a truth social or lead a movement to take back America electorally or purchase X or found a rumble like Chris Pawlowski and the great team have done. | |
| That's a very special category. | |
| And all of those people and everyone dealing with the parallel economy, Mike Seifert and the guys over at Public Square, of course, that's key. | |
| That's the great men of means level. | |
| And everyone at the lower levels needs to be supporting those guys at all times, period, full stop. | |
| That's number one. But then for people who are at the institutional level, we've got to start re-infiltrating. | |
| We cannot allow the institutions, not all of them, some of the institutions, yeah, okay, we're going to have to get rid of them. | |
| But other ones, we can re-infiltrate and re-take over. | |
| And this is actually something that I've argued for the military for a long time because a lot of people come to me and say, hey, should I stay in? | |
| Should I get out? And I know you know a lot of guys who are serving. | |
| I tell people to stay in. | |
| I say if you can. If you can stay in, stay in, because we're going to need good people in there when we're on the other side of this. | |
| And then finally, at the lower level, you need people forming those networks to just make a decision, whether it's your community, whether it's your neighborhood, whether it's your parish, whether it's your church, to say, I'm going to be against this stuff. | |
| And we've seen the moms already fighting back in the school boards. | |
| It's literally just taking any action at all. | |
| Don't just complain. Don't just sit there on Twitter and social media. | |
| Look, I'm guilty of this as much as anybody else. | |
| You and I, we've got to be a little careful how we say that. | |
| But we're doing other things, too. | |
| We're bitching like no other, but we're actually out there. | |
| I help take Public Square public. | |
| I'm in these battles. | |
| I'm on the board of Truth Social. | |
| I am on the front lines of just the whole, hey, build your own. | |
| Okay, we will. We actually will. | |
| They sort of did it as a, oh, you don't like Twitter 1.0? | |
| Go build your own. It's like, okay, I guess we will. | |
| It's not easy. They put up every roadblock imaginable, but we have no choice but to do that. | |
| And then, you're right, you need the commensurate support from everyone else who understands what's going on. | |
| Hey, don't just go to Amazon because you always did. | |
| Go to one of these other businesses. | |
| Support the businesses that actually matter. | |
| Yes. Very much so. | |
| And we actually argue, and maybe Joshua can explain this a little more, that what we're in right now, we refer to it as essentially an irregular revolution. | |
| Because in the same way that warfare has changed over the years, second generation, third generation, okay? | |
| You don't have like the troops that line up on the field and shoot each other in formation like it's the Civil War or the revolution anymore. | |
| No, it's an irregular revolution. | |
| There's a reason why you can walk down the street and like things seem kind of normal, things seem kind of fine. | |
| But, you know, or if you do like I like to, you know, I walk around D.C. with Tanya and the kids and I'll just be walking down the street and go, hey, Trump won! | |
| You know, Trump actually won 2020. | |
| Trump won! Trump won 2020! | |
| I've been doing it on livestream every once in a while. | |
| I did it at the Jefferson Memorial the other day during the Cherry Blossom Festival. | |
| And you can see just the anger and the rage and the emotional contortions that get off on people and their faces. | |
| And this is because they have been put into this Cultural Marxist framework of believing that everyone is oppressed or isn't oppressed and within this irregular revolution that we find ourselves in, and it certainly is a cultural revolution form, that micro-revolutions, and this is a concept people need to understand as well. | |
| Yeah. | |
| revolution can be launched every day. We could launch one against Don Jr. right now. So they've | |
| attempted many micro revolutions against you. They could launch one against against or they launched | |
| one against me the other day because I said the I put oh yeah I put up the picture of the um of | |
| the bridge that collapsed and I said at least your grandchildren will know you fought racism. | |
| Yeah well no they went after you like 10 days ago. | |
| You didn't understand what I was saying. You were speaking at CPAC, clearly being sarcastic, and it was like, oh my god, Paul Sobek said that! | |
| I'm like, there's not a sane person in the world that watched what you said and didn't know that, I mean, you're literally just trolling, and it's like, you know, but they do that, right? | |
| They take something that's a verbal skit, they change the punctuation, they put it in print, this is what he said! | |
| said it's like yeah but like everyone knows that's not what he said like you | |
| know or like the other day or any any of these things any of these things and the | |
| reason these are done we call them micro revolutions for a reason it's because | |
| they are done in an attempt to increase the revolutionary fervor of their own | |
| followers and supporters against that individual because that individual has | |
| decided to be a target so either either they will use it to target an individual | |
| or increase the power of someone on their own side Joshua do you want to | |
| to chime in on micro revolutions and that tactic. | |
| Yes, the reason micro-revolutions can be incited so quickly in a matter of minutes via our social media tools is because, speaking of OPE, again, the mental environment has already been prepared. | |
| One of the keys of OPE, besides separating, okay, who are we going to be with us? | |
| Who are we going to be assaulting? | |
| That's the key separation stage. | |
| After that comes messaging. | |
| What are the quick little slogans and quips and labels that we're going to use so that people know it's okay for us to do what we're doing? | |
| For example, the right wing extremist, right wing watch, far right, alt right. | |
| Any of that sort of manipulative language that tells people what to think and how to feel about it. | |
| And I have a series on Twitter, now X, where I point out the propaganda that is consistently put out by Western journalists to prepare the mental environment for these little micro-revolts. | |
| Yeah, you see... By the way, I see that all the time. | |
| It's like something happens. It's not even a big deal. | |
| And yet, every journalism... | |
| It's like the same four words. | |
| And they're random enough that it doesn't seem like much, except... | |
| They're the same forwards in the exact same context. | |
| It's like there's a network behind the scenes. | |
| Every leftist gets this thing. | |
| They figure out how to incorporate right-wing extremism. | |
| It was worse than Pearl Harbor. | |
| And all of a sudden... Everyone's saying the same thing as though it's the gospel, even though it's just a coordinated effort by people with reasonably large followings all saying basically the same thing. | |
| These aren't original thoughts. | |
| It's not like someone saw this and did it. | |
| Someone got an email, cut and paste, basically the thought, and everyone's saying the same thing. | |
| It's really contrived if you get it all in volume. | |
| but if you're just sort of getting it piecemeal little by little it actually has the effect of I guess what it's | |
| intended to do which is you know create that | |
| You know adverse feelings towards whether it's Republicans or whatever is going on | |
| Yes, and the key is that it needs to seem reasonable otherwise to normies | |
| Recall that the reason Vladimir Lenin and the Bolsheviks were able to gain the support that they got in 1917, 1918, and beyond was their slogan, Peace, Land, Bread. | |
| Peace, land, bread. | |
| That means no war, solve the former serfdom problem that hadn't quite been resolved yet, and of course make sure there's plenty of food for everybody. | |
| Who doesn't want that, right? | |
| That's just so reasonable. | |
| So when you talk to a normie, I like to call them NPR Americans because they listen to NPR and they believe it's 100% is true. | |
| They'll say things like, well, lawfare against Trump? | |
| That's not a thing. No one is above the law. | |
| Every single time. | |
| That's a big one. | |
| I watched the meltdown this week when they simply reduced the bond, which is still a number that's unheard of for, you know, a victimless, you know, because it doesn't matter. | |
| I can't believe they would do it. | |
| It's like they negate the fact that the appellate division, you know, six months ago, threw out two-thirds of the judgment already. | |
| So they basically left everything that the appellate division didn't rule on. | |
| But the judge in the primary case, again, who was overruled like five different times on it, just that You know what? | |
| We'll leave it in. Because if you get a bond, you've got to pay on the bigger number. | |
| Even if the bigger number is fictitious, even if it's going to be overturned, that's another way to hurt them. | |
| So I don't care what the rules are anymore. | |
| Everyone has to comply. | |
| And it's nonsense. | |
| But again, maybe it's gone so far that people are waking up to it. | |
| It's so extreme that even those who aren't on your side are like, you know what? | |
| It's only a matter of time until they turn this stuff on me. | |
| Exactly, exactly. | |
| Even though there is this mass manipulation strategy that has been at work for at least three generations now amongst the West and particularly Americans, enough people are waking up from gelman amnesia. | |
| And for those unfamiliar, gelman amnesia is where, let's say you're reading a headline on CNN or on Fox or NPR or wherever, and you're looking at it and then you realize... | |
| Something is said about your industry or about someone you know personally, and you think, but that's not right. | |
| That's wrong. And then you read the next headline and assume it's right. | |
| And it was just that one thing that was wrong. | |
| For example, there's been both malicious and honest mistakes that have been printed and published about me over the years. | |
| And once you had that happen to you, you can't take anything else seriously that ever happens. | |
| But most people, the NPR Americans, this doesn't happen to them. | |
| They don't know that. | |
| But enough people are, whether it's with vaccines, for example, and all of the propaganda that was behind that machine, or it's around elections, or it's around crime, squatters, for example, and with a lot of people who are Democrats who know how lending works, mortgages, loans, that sort of world, seeing what's been happening to your father, President Trump. | |
| They go, wait a second. | |
| Yeah, that's not how it works. | |
| The amount of texts I get from leftist New York bankers and stuff like that, I think it was an interesting phenomenon. | |
| I saw this for the first time from some of the biggest funders of the left. | |
| Guys like Bill Ackman, who's a big financier, billionaire New York guy, but funded Hillary, Biden, all the Democrats for years. | |
| It was interesting. When Kyle Rittenhouse was going through his trial, he got on Twitter before they started going after him for speaking out against Harvard and all that stuff and his wife. | |
| But he got on there. He's like, wait a minute. | |
| You mean this guy's not actually a white supremacist? | |
| The victims weren't black? | |
| One was a pedophile? | |
| He's going, what is going on here? | |
| And he goes on this long Twitter tirade. | |
| Apparently the New York Times called him during it. | |
| And he's like, did someone hack your account? | |
| He goes... No, but, like, I've been watching this trial. | |
| I'm watching the guy, and, like, this is not what the media told me was the gospel. | |
| And he goes, and it's funny. | |
| For 40 years, I've been on, you know, major transactions. | |
| on one side or the other of a vast majority of the major transactions in New York, | |
| and I'd read the Wall Street Journal, and I'd read what they said about a transaction | |
| that I was literally intimately involved in, and I'd laugh at how ridiculous it was, | |
| how off it was, how wrong it was. | |
| But then I'd turn the page, and I'd read another article about something | |
| that I was not a subject matter expert, and I just assumed it to be true, | |
| whereas I should have just assumed that it was all bullshit, | |
| like the stuff that they were talking about me. | |
| And so there does seem to be a little bit of an awakening. | |
| That's a perfect example of Gelman amnesia applied. | |
| So Bill Ackman is a guy who obviously has suddenly had this – maybe gradually and then suddenly had this awakening and is now coming online to realize that we need – who's, by the way, not a guy of the right by any means. | |
| I think he's funding like random Democrat people. | |
| He understands Biden's a dissenter. | |
| Yeah. But he's anti-Biden, right? | |
| And you got a lot of these far lefties behind RFK's campaign too now, by the way, including his VP pick. | |
| But one of the key, I guess, the key things we break out in on humans is this understanding that it's always been this way. | |
| And it's always been this tactic again and again. | |
| These are all different tactics that they use to trick you. | |
| They use to propagandize you. | |
| and things that you thought you knew about the past, whether it be the Spanish Civil War, | |
| whether it be the Russian Revolution, that for years, the media, including the New York Times, | |
| supported the Russian communists. They said, this is great. | |
| This is the wave of the future. | |
| We're going to have government by expert. We're going to have people who actually matter | |
| in positions of power. And the New York Times sent over a reporter named Walter Durante, | |
| who went to Ukraine and many of these other places, who saw the famine conditions, | |
| saw the famine conditions in Ukraine, the Holodomor, and saw, and really the famine | |
| that was all over Russia, predicated on the basis of these insane, false, scientific, | |
| pseudoscience beliefs called Lysenkoism, and he lied about it. He just straight up lied about it. | |
| He said, it's great, everything, everyone loves it. It's wonderful, covers up the atrocities, | |
| covers up the purges, covers up everything. So you have this system where people always say, | |
| the history is always written by the victors, but it's like with communism, for some reason, | |
| history is written by the losers, just because all the writers are on that side, | |
| basically, and all the people from that class are on that side. | |
| And so, they've written this entirely false history about communism, and really about the 20th century, that we've all believed for forever. | |
| Oh, we just take it as rote. | |
| You know, the communists weren't so bad, and And certainly, you know, we've seen movie after movie. | |
| Laura Logan actually tweeted this. | |
| She said, we've seen movie after movie about World War II. We get it. | |
| World War II was bad. | |
| We understand. We'd rather not have another one of those if possible. | |
| No World War III. Can we all agree on that? | |
| Hopefully. Some people, though, they said they want that. | |
| It seems like they do, certainly. | |
| But then you also realize that there were other things that happened in the 20th century that we totally overlook. | |
| And this, by and large, is communism and the remit and the consequences of communism and the way that it still affects our world today. | |
| And hopefully, with this book, we can put it together and actually explain to some people what's actually been going on in many of these places that has led to the situation we find ourselves in today. | |
| Yeah, so Jack, I mean, to take that a little bit further, I guess, how does all of that relate to the chaos and war we're seeing abroad right now, right? | |
| You follow the war in Ukraine, obviously, very closely. | |
| How close are we to, like, nuclear war with Russia? | |
| You know, the sort of blind funding of these things that we haven't... | |
| Listen, I follow this stuff pretty closely. | |
| I've yet to see anyone articulate what victory looks like other than perhaps... | |
| The genocide of the entire Russian population. | |
| I guess a guy that was an actor in a previously more corrupt country than Russia by our own metrics. | |
| How should this be analyzed in the context of the book? | |
| Because it seems like we're talking about those parts of the world pretty extensively, but it's sort of happening again. | |
| So we talk about the Cold War a lot in the book, and we talk about the Cold War in the sense that it was, of course, this competition between the forces of democracy and Western society against the forces of international communism. | |
| The communists were going around funding these revolutions all over the world just using | |
| money they had looted from the Russian treasury, the imperial treasury, and then use that to | |
| of course export the revolution. | |
| This is all very, very clear but nobody really talks about it in this way. | |
| So in the current sort of neo-Cold War, Cold War II that we find ourselves in, there's | |
| an interesting inversion that's taken place whereby in the collective west, the cultural | |
| Marxist left, DEI left, the woke west if you will, the neo-liberal order I think is probably | |
| the best term for them. | |
| We can't say New World Order. We're never allowed to say New World Order. | |
| But the neoliberal rules – they always have to come up with these little terms. | |
| The neoliberal rules-based order. | |
| This has actually become – so in the West, the reason that – and George Kennan, which Joshua mentioned, had written this policy and said, well, we need to contain it. | |
| We need to contain communism. | |
| We need to contain communism and make sure it's an over there problem so it doesn't become an over here problem. | |
| And then Joseph McCarthy goes and does what he does and HUAC. And by the way, RFK's father was part of Joseph McCarthy's original committee, so I actually worked on this. | |
| So this was not like a Republican-Democrat thing. | |
| The communists of the past were the expansionist power and they were led by Russia pushing everything else, pushing their ideology around the world. | |
| Here's the interesting inversion. | |
| These days, it's not the Russians who are pushing their ideology on the world. | |
| It's us. It's the neoliberal West who are pushing our, and when I say our, I guess I mean I would say the lefts, these left-wing neoliberal values on places like, oh, we're going to go to Afghanistan and we're going to have LGBT parades in Kabul. | |
| It's going to be wonderful. Here's $20 billion to Pakistan for trans programs. | |
| I'm like, I don't know. It doesn't seem like it. | |
| And you see the problem. | |
| You see the issue and this is the way whereby in we have found ourselves pushing further | |
| and further into this combination of a militaristic backing because of course the neoliberals | |
| who are – and the neocons together who control our government also control the military. | |
| And they will say, well, these guys over in Ukraine, they're not doing enough of – they're | |
| not enough in the neoliberal order. | |
| So we're going to take them over. | |
| We're going to coup their country and we're going to put them in and of course that's | |
| going to go off again. | |
| And what we're going to do then is push them further into our sphere so they adopt | |
| our values and we're going to use the US military to expand it. | |
| This is the same exact thing that the Soviets were doing during the Cold War. | |
| And by the way, in some cases in the same locations with Afghanistan. | |
| And so we have actually become – and it's tough for Americans to accept this. | |
| We've become the expansionists. | |
| We're the ones who are pushing out further into places where people just want to be left alone or at least would rather prefer to have some kind of peace deal in place. | |
| So maybe a question for both of you guys before we wrap up, which is where has the right gone wrong in the past as it relates to sort of combating this American Marxism and corruption? | |
| How much of it is a policy problem versus a messaging problem? | |
| It seems to be a purity test problem, if I had to describe it. | |
| And that is—and we've even seen this the past week, Jack and I, with various factions, both Christian and secular, on the right, having different bones to pick with the title of Unhumans and the concept of reciprocity, getting angered by the fact that anything that's not turning the other cheek is not Christ-like, for example. Yeah, well, you saw them with going crazy. | |
| Trump's going to try to get revenge. | |
| He's going to try to— Like, the projection of, like, what, like, aren't you guys the guy doing it? | |
| No, no, no, but Trump said you'd be in jail. | |
| I go, Trump made a quip, like, in a debate that was a great soundbite, but, like, then didn't do any of those things. | |
| But you fear that he's going to do the things that you are actively doing because you understand just how bad it is that you got to create this whole, I mean, they literally tried making the election. | |
| I think we shut it down pretty quickly. | |
| Like, have you looked at what you are doing? | |
| And then that sort of went away, but it didn't stop him trying desperately for about a two-week period to say that Trump's the guy that's going to be doing that. | |
| He's going to trample democracy in the process, yada, yada, yada. | |
| That's right. It seems all too easy for discord to be sown amongst conservatives and not so much coalition building, which needs to take place. | |
| Now the reason that Peter Rangel of the White Army that was in opposition to the Bolsheviks, the reason he admitted in his memoir, Always With Honor, that the anti-communists failed is that they were not organized, neither were they unanimous. | |
| You had multiple generals who wanted to do things their way. | |
| They wanted to be the one who called the shots. | |
| They wanted to follow their own strategy. | |
| And because of that infighting, they were not able to have an overwhelming, unanimous, organized response. | |
| And we see a similar issue with conservatives, both in the Republican Party and out of it, amongst Christians, amongst Catholics, Protestants. | |
| It seems like there's this perpetual purity test of what's a real conservative or I'm | |
| the one who speaks for conservative values or I'm the one who's the best defenders of | |
| what the framers intended. | |
| And then they build their PAC or their NGO or their 501c3 or 4 and then they go fundraising | |
| and then it becomes a sort of – And attack everyone else who's not 100 percent on board | |
| with exactly what they're doing. | |
| Whereas the left is like if they're 51 percent, they take the win, they move on, they take | |
| another win, death by a thousand cuts and they end up winning in the end. | |
| Yes, it's easy to organize the mob when you say, hey, want to go rob and kill some | |
| people? | |
| That appeals to the fringes of society, and you're instantly able to round people up. | |
| This is how Vladimir Lenin started, by the way, is looking at the underclasses of society and recruiting from there. | |
| That's where the message of violence was most able to be—it was most fertile. | |
| That was the most fertile, I must say, psychic messaging space. | |
| Whereas with conservatives, I think what the right and the center, and I like to call them | |
| gently farmers market liberals, I would say that they're allies in the fight against communism. | |
| What all of them collectively need to understand is the time and season in which we live. | |
| And what the book is intended to do outside of selling a whole lot of coffees, of course, | |
| and being commercially successful, is to be culturally successful. | |
| It's for this to be a civilization-changing message to help people understand, to wake up from the normie stupor that, oh, wait, we are so far past Being called mean or not nice. | |
| I think that's right. I think there's an incredible window to get some of those people, you know, the independent, the non-insane liberals, what's left. | |
| And again, in our country right now, you get a couple points of those, that's it. | |
| And you can actually do some damage because I think, you know, reasonable people are looking at what's going on and they're getting that, whether they, you know, again, it's not even a factor of Trump, but whether they like Trump or conservatives or not, like reasonable people who otherwise probably wouldn't are like, Okay, society, civilization as we know it is over if we don't do something about this and the track we're on, which is scary, but again, I think it creates a great window for us. | |
| Jack, where can people find the book again just so they can make sure that everyone can get it and check it out and start putting these practices into place? | |
| Yeah, we're up everywhere. | |
| Amazon.com right now has us up for $17.99, 40% off. | |
| That's due to high volume of sales. | |
| So we're just overwhelmed with the support that we've received early on in this thing. | |
| We only announced it about a week ago now. | |
| But also Barnes& Noble, Skyhorse Publishing. | |
| People can get it at a variety of places because I'll throw out the Amazon link and then I'll get like maybe like 20% of the replies will say, I don't want to put money in Jeff Bezos' pocket. | |
| There's probably some bookstores on Public Square. | |
| There's probably bookstores on Public Square. | |
| Find one, order it through them. | |
| You know what I mean? We should figure that out. | |
| I started a publishing company because it was so biased in this thing. | |
| That's how insane it is, but it's good to see you were published by someone else because, like a lot of the people we've published, it was like, they get a book, they get a deal, they get a this, and then they're like, yeah, we're just not going to put it out anymore. | |
| It's like... So, you know, that's what we're up against. | |
| So it's important. So, you know, guys, please go check out the book. | |
| Everyone go pre-order it. | |
| Read it. Learn it. | |
| Preach it. You know, get it out there. | |
| Let's all fight back. Joshua, Jack, thank you so much for being here. | |
| Really appreciate your guys' time and that you're taking the effort to actually, you know, be engaged at this level and put out that sort of roadmap for how we combat the nonsense. | |
| Thank you so much, Don. I really appreciate it. | |
| Thanks, Don. My pleasure. Guys, that was great. | |
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