Darren Beattie Knows What's Coming Next: Major Revolver News Investigations | TRIGGERED Ep.92
Darren Beattie Knows What's Coming Next: Major Revolver News Investigations | TRIGGERED Ep.92
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Hey guys, welcome to another huge episode of Triggered.
Tonight we're going to be joined by the great Darren Beattie.
Darren is a friend of the show.
He runs Revolver News.
He's broken a lot of really interesting stories that no one else seems to want to cover, strangely.
We wonder why that is.
Every interview we've done with Darren has been a hit, and I'm sure this one will be too, because there's so much to talk about, especially with his background in academia as maybe the
I guess the only, let's call it, academic for Trump back in 15 and 16, etc.
So, I think you're gonna really like this one, guys.
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So before we get to Darren, a quick rundown of all the latest headlines, the craziness from the weekend that we'll talk about with him as well.
But we got to begin with everyone's favorite crackhead, Hunter Biden.
Who is finally facing some actual felony charges.
At least, you know, that's the optics they want you to believe right now.
But on Thursday night, Hunter Biden, we talked about it a little bit on the show live there, but we didn't have any actual information.
Hunter Biden was indicted on several tax charges for failing to pay 1.4 million in income taxes.
The indictment details how Hunter spent hundreds of thousands of dollars on hookers
And drugs and took out 1.6 million dollars from ATM machines in a four-year period of time.
Now, that's pretty amazing in a largely cashless society.
I imagine for me in that same period of time was probably like 10 grand, but you know,
Minor details, folks.
I'm sure it's all above board.
This is the same guy that needed his dad to get a truck loan during that same period of time.
He took out 1.6 million from ATM machines.
Didn't want to pay child support, but blew hundreds of thousands of dollars, if not millions, on hookers and blow.
Totally normal, folks.
This is the smartest man that Joe Biden knows.
The indictment will help Hunter Biden avoid taking a deposition before the House Oversight Committee.
We discussed this last week, guys.
Remember I said it?
Mark my words.
He'll plead the fifth.
The DOJ is literally helping him out with this charge.
They're doing him a favor.
And Joe Biden will surely pardon Hunter after November.
Whether he loses or wins in November, regardless.
It's not looking good for Joe, but who knows what games the Democrats are up to.
But that's what they're doing.
Of all of the charges that Hunter Biden could be guilty of, all of the crimes we see the evidence of, and wire transfers, and links, strangely, nothing here has been linked to Joe Biden.
This is not the DOJ.
Getting justice and equal justice under the law and all the other nonsense.
This is them working directly for Joe Biden and the Democrat Party.
Making sure to not go after the things to tie to his father.
And of course you have the leftists on the media and on Twitter saying, he's not an elected official!
I know.
He was just sending 10% to the big guy because he's not an elected official.
This is insanity.
The real story's not whether Hunter paid taxes, or the millions of dollars he made, or the banks questioning why he was getting money from these CCP entities despite not really actually performing any services, but why he made those millions of dollars.
The indictment shows that in 2014, Burisma agreed to pay Hunter Biden a million dollars a year for a no-show job at an energy company of which he knows nothing about in a language he doesn't speak.
However, in March of 2017, after Joe Biden left office and was no longer the Vice President, Burisma magically cut Hunter's pay in half to $500,000.
I wonder why that is, folks.
You think maybe, just maybe, they were buying access?
No way!
That would never happen, right?
Joe Biden is toast, by the way, folks.
We see that every day.
The Wall Street Journal released a poll on Saturday showing my father leading him by four points in a head-to-head matchup.
It must have killed the globalist journalists to read that.
The reason Biden's losing is simple, folks.
People are poorer now than they were just four years ago.
A whopping 76, 76% of Americans told CBS News, not exactly conservative publishing, that their income isn't keeping up with the pace of inflation.
And it's not even close, folks.
I'm the son of a billionaire, and if I see that, everyone's getting crushed, okay?
The Wall Street Journal report this morning showed just how unaffordable life has become for Americans under Joe Biden.
The average monthly new home payment when Biden took office was just $1,700.
$1,700.
At the end of the Trump administration, the average monthly new home payment now is $3,300.
That's not affordable.
That's not sustainable.
That's before you take into account inflation and everything else.
Okay, this is by design.
Remember the quotes?
You won't own anything and you'll be really happy, right?
Just like you'll be really happy eating bugs while the rich still eat meat and yada yada yada.
Meanwhile, there are deadly consequences to Biden's open border.
An illegal immigrant was arrested in Texas for the murder of a 16-year-old cheerleader.
This is what happens when you let millions of unknown people come into your country, folks.
Many of them with criminal backgrounds.
But, you know, Biden can't even make an argument for why his policies are good.
So instead, he has to try to smear his opponents as extremists, despite the fact that his actions are that of fascist dictators.
My father had the perfect response to this during a speech in New York just this Saturday.
Check it out.
I tell that to Biden, I say, Joe, when he gets up, we've got to stop the MAGA extremists.
Yeah, I'm extreme about making America great again, right?
Democrats are going to try all sorts of dirty tricks to win next year, folks.
It's already started.
Just last week, a black woman was arrested for trying to burn down Martin Luther King's birth home in Atlanta.
Watch this clip and see what happened.
What are you doing?
What are you doing?
No, that's gasoline.
Guys, expect to see a lot of this in 2024, okay?
Had it not been for the good Samaritans that caught them in the act, this would have been blamed as an arson by MAGA extremists!
How many other race-based hoaxes have we seen in the last year?
How many have been caught
Quite a few, right?
Some of the biggest have actually been caught.
We learn it's a lie.
Then, all of a sudden, the story magically disappears.
When they're not caught, we're left assuming it had to be some sort of, you know, white supremacist, because that's, according to the FBI, the biggest problem facing America today.
No one seems to know any of these people or actually see them, but had it not been for the people that caught this lady, that's who would have been blamed, because they're trying to sow discord.
They can't help themselves.
It's what they do, because it's been very effective.
The left and the media are going to push hoax after a hoax after a hoax next year in hopes of rigging the election in Joe Biden's favor and doing the bidding of the Democrat Party.
This is not going to stop.
It's been going on ad nauseum.
But I do want to end on some good news before we get to the interview with Darren.
Liz McGill is no longer the president of my alma mater, the University of Pennsylvania.
While I've really been disappointed in my school,
The place where I graduated and hold a degree from for leading the charge of putting men into women's sports.
Remember Leah Thomas?
Esteemed female swimmer that just wasn't so good as a guy?
That was Penn.
That was my alma mater.
We would have had a blast back in the day showing up at the swim meets with a keg just laughing about this, but today you'd get thrown out.
Problem is, you won't seem to get thrown out for being anti-Semitic.
You won't get thrown out for calling for the genocide of an entire race of people and turning a blind eye
To the anti-Semitic insanity that's going on, but at least their board was the first to act.
While they've been first to act in a lot of really bad ways lately and leading the charge of woke insanity, at least the board showed some sense.
Okay?
There are repercussions for the lunacy that's taken over academia.
Let's hope this is the beginning of that.
Let's hope this is
The start of many changes at universities.
For far too many years, America's colleges have been breeding grounds for extreme leftism.
I wish the boards of these universities woke up earlier, but it's better late than never.
Changes need to come at Harvard as well, where pro-Hamas University President Claudine Gay is refusing to resign.
Journalist Chris Ruffo reported yesterday that it seems Gay plagiarized entire sections of her PhD thesis.
If she can't get fired after refusing to punish calls for genocide or plagiarizing her thesis, then DEI is truly unstoppable.
Just a few hours ago, 500, I believe it was,
Other academics at Harvard signed a letter in support of Gay.
Now, she's not a noted author, she's not the author of numerous articles, she's barely had a presence in academia, but because she is, I believe, gay, because she does check off a couple boxes, she can assume the leadership at Harvard.
It's unbelievable, but it's just the beginning.
College campuses are important because what happens there spreads to the rest of society.
This week in Fresno, California, hundreds held a rally
Where they raised the Palestinian flag and chanted, from the river to the sea, Palestine will be free.
They raised that flag in replacement of the American flag that belonged on that flagpole.
Radical colleges means a radical country.
That's what we see.
It's not just the president of Harvard or the president of MIT, the 500 people that stand in solidarity with her despite, again, apparently no real accomplishments, despite backing and standing up for a radical insanity.
Despite plagiarism and being called out for that, they're just fine with it because they don't actually care.
These are no longer merit-based places.
They don't care for that.
Just look at the admission statistics according to race and scores.
It's way out of whack.
But again, Darren has a great academic background.
Again, one of the only academics that stood in support of Trump.
We'll talk about all of this with him shortly.
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With that, guys, joining me now, guys, great friend of the show, Revolver News founder, Darren Beatty.
Darren, great to have you back.
But your academic background as the the founder and only member of Academics for Trump.
Back in 2015, 2016.
Literally the only person, probably, who took a salary at a university in America.
We saw what's going on over the last couple weeks.
The University of Pennsylvania president has now stepped down.
That's my alma mater.
They've been leading the charge in woke BS, with Leah Thomas pushing that, leading the charge of men in women's sports.
But now we're learning that
The president of Harvard, Claudine Gay, was caught up in a plagiarism scandal stemming from her, you know, PhD work.
Can you lay out what we're seeing in academia right now?
Because it seems like, you know, if you become the president of Harvard, at any other time you would say, you have all these qualifications.
But it turns out, like, she's not written a book.
She's only taken part in a handful of academic studies.
It seems like she's plagiarized some of those.
How do you become the president of Harvard without actually having seemingly any actual academic credentials?
I mean, I get that she, I believe she's gay, um, you know, and, and she's black, but like, is that enough these days?
It seems like that would be a problem.
What's going on?
Well, being both gay and black is a tremendous credential in academia these days.
And it's kind of,
Ironic, because my understanding is her name is actually Gay, and she's also a Gay Black woman.
It's like, if this were a South Park episode, you know, you could hardly... Oh, dude, they're so coming with this one.
This one has to be, you know, this has got to be on their radar at this point, and they haven't missed much lately.
Yeah, I mean, it's the whole thing is like, on one hand, it's hilarious.
On the other hand, it's just very sad, because
You know, American academic excellence, the fact that America possesses the top universities in the world has always been, you know, one of its major comparative advantages and something that we could rightfully be proud of.
And so we're just seeing another example recently with
This unfortunate anti-Semitism issue that you see across the bureaucracies and of course in the student populations as well.
I mean, let's not forget that the anti-Semitism you see or tolerance for anti-Semitism at the bureaucracies and the higher level
is basically an appeasement strategy for the more radicalized student populations and student groups.
That's my understanding.
Someone like Professor Gay, I mean, I'm sure that she's, you know, left-wing in orientation, but these university presidents understand they have a very fine line to walk on because, on the one hand, they don't want to do something like, you know, end up like UPenn where they have to resign,
But also they don't want to say something that leads to weeks and weeks of riots and protests and sit-ins and so forth.
So part of it is just the environment that's allowed to develop and metastasize within the universities that has led to such a disastrous thing.
But this goes so far beyond
Antisemitism, which is the recent boiling point, and has gained the attention of some people like Bill Ackman, who in other contexts wouldn't necessarily be too concerned about expressions of wokeness at the university.
So it's good that people like that are now at least attentive to the wider issue, and I hope they become more so.
But the political radicalization of the university is something that's been going back since the 60s, and
We're really seeing the fruits of that in such a disastrous way.
And as for the plagiarism issue, like, it is funny, you know, and I think this is not unique to Professor Gay or Dr. Gay.
This is a rampant issue.
And, you know, there's talk going around on Twitter.
I think it's valid that if AI tools were kind of retroactively applied
We'd see so many plagiarism scandals.
I almost think a greater scandal than the plagiarism is simply that this woman was operating in a fake discipline to begin with.
And you see in the sense of so many of these, you know, affirmative action people, you look at their CV and literally everything in it is about some race doctrine.
They've created fake disciplines
To accommodate people like this because they can't succeed and contribute effectively in other disciplines just simply by virtue of scholarship so they create these fake identity based disciplines so to me like that's the greater scandal than plagiarizing within an already fake
And ridiculous, ridiculous discipline.
So there's so many factors just, you know, coming to the fore that have been in the works for a long time, all the way up to the bureaucratization, you know, the DEI administrators have surpassed faculty at most public universities now.
Yeah, well, that's what I mean.
I saw that just today.
I think it was 500 Harvard faculty signed a letter in support of, you know, the Harvard president.
And again, but so wait a minute.
You don't have to have credentials.
You check off some diversity.
You're perhaps one of the bigger beneficiaries of DEI policy, if these things are true, certainly.
Uh, you're right about, you know, the, yes, they have a PhD in underwater basket weaving, therefore you must respect them, because what do you know, peasants?
You only, you know, you're a mechanic, so you actually probably have a far greater skill set, but, you know, they got their, you know, doctoral thesis in underwater basket weaving, and therefore they're a doctor.
You must call them that, right?
Dr. Jill.
All of these sort of things.
But is there a realignment underway?
Or is it even possible at this point?
If 500 people at Harvard are saying, no, we don't care about any of these things.
We stand in solidarity with her.
You know, does it matter?
I love what Bill Ackman's doing.
And for those who don't know, Bill Ackman is a New York hedge fund billionaire.
He's a major Democrat donor.
I noticed he actually followed me on Twitter, maybe because I've been talking about some of these things for a while.
I didn't see that in my bingo card.
But, you know, Penn seemed to have made movement because a $100 million pledge disappeared.
So, you know, money still talks.
But does that matter to the 500 people that are signing on in support of someone that seems to have no business there?
And again, maybe I'm wrong, but this reporting seems to be fairly accurate.
You're right.
She doesn't have a degree in nuclear physics.
This is one of those sort of like, let's make up a concentration to say that we're the expert and we have a PhD amongst other things in
But it doesn't actually generate or create any real value other than to perpetuate the nonsense of the DEI cycle, right?
The DEI people love DEI because it's guaranteed employment.
They find problems that don't really exist because only they can solve them.
The donors are now saying they've had enough, but is anything gonna really happen in the long run or is academia too far taken over?
You know, that's a great question.
And yes, you know, your basket weaving examples.
I mean, that gives us a sense of the plagiarism.
Like, how dare you plagiarize your basket weaving PhD?
Didn't you know that somebody else made the same basket and now you're making the same basket?
You know, it's just... No, but Darren, I did it underwater, so it's different.
It's a valuable contribution to society.
Right, exactly.
But, you know, the underlying question that you pose is really critical and it's hard to answer because things can go in a number of ways.
I think it is fair to say that the donor influence is not negligible.
I mean, we've seen the fruits of that in the recent resignation at Penn, and there could be follow-up issues
All right.
Just vicious and general anti-white indoctrination within the universities, which is also a broader issue.
And it's the issue that, frankly, underlines the antisemitism.
The antisemitism is acceptable because anti-white racism is acceptable.
And within the sort of broader dynamic of, say, the Israel-Palestine situation,
The Israeli Jews are considered to be white within that paradigm as opposed to the colonially oppressed Palestinian people.
That's precisely why the framework plays out the way it does.
So I think to the extent that people have only taken an interest now because it involves anti-Semitism or think that somehow that can be
Carefully cordoned off.
I think that some people are starting to realize that that is unrealistic.
But I think that's a very, that's going to be a very tempting compromise because these donors do have leverage.
But as I mentioned,
Yeah.
And somewhat attractive short-term compromise would be, okay, we are going to incorporate anti-Semitism issues into the broader DEI framework.
Yeah, but we're not going to address sort of the anti-white side of that, which still seems to be okay.
I mean, I was looking, it was another, I think it was another Ivy or, you know, certainly top sort of 20 university.
I was looking at, you know, if you took, basically, the statistics were crazy.
Like, if you took the same student, you got rid of skin color,
Uh, and you, you took it.
If you were white, you had like a 30% chance of getting in, but with the exact same credentials, if you checked off one of the other, white and Asian actually, Asian was actually discriminated more against than even white, but only, you know, only a couple of points.
Uh, but if you took that same person and put any other demographic, Hispanic had a significantly, uh, you know, greater chance.
And then if you were African-American beyond that, it was like, you had like a 96% chance of getting in.
But if you were a white or Asian with the exact same credentials,
You were at, like, 36% acceptance rates.
It was mind-boggling, so you're right.
I mean, is that gonna be the compromise?
You'd say, okay, we'll allow, you know, Jews to come into this fold because we're gonna keep discriminating against everything else, and it's a small enough thing that maybe it doesn't matter.
Right.
And I think that's, you know, that's the easy solution.
And I can imagine it being attractive to some donors whose particular focus is the anti-Semitism issue.
But I think it's a failed course, because like I said, the whole reason that the anti-Semitism thing is acceptable is that it exists within the broader framework
In which anti-white discrimination and racism is acceptable.
And it just happens to be that within the Israel-Palestine conflict, the Jews are considered white and therefore they're the bad guys in this framework.
So that's the difficult aspect of your question is there is a short-term compromise and, you know, people are very attracted to short-term
Well, they're trying to get out from under fire, right?
And that's the reality, right?
We keep talking about Harvard, Penn, MIT, just because they were the ones that were, whether they were sort of, you know, forced into testimony, but they're the ones that failed miserably under question answering some pretty basic stuff.
I mean, it's literally hard to believe.
I guess they had Wilmer Hale, like, you know.
We're good to go.
Their feelings and what they said out loud is not just relegated to those three schools.
It's probably across virtually 100% of academia, with maybe the exception of Liberty University and Hillsdale College.
You could carve those out and it's probably just, that's common academic thought these days.
There's no diversity of thought in these institutions.
They only want diversity in color and not in thought.
And so, you know, the problem is definitely broader.
Absolutely.
And, you know, I think it's important to be clear about, you know, what the context was in this congressional testimony that caused such controversy.
You know, people on the one hand, you know, the one version of the controversy is,
Oh, these university officials refuse to say, you know, condemn these hypothetical incidents of calls for genocide of Jews and so forth, whether that violates the speech codes at the universities.
Now, it would be one thing, though, and I think Jed Rubenfeld actually had, I saw a clip of his that I think expressed this point very well.
It would be one thing if there were an
actually consistently applied principle defense of free speech, in the sense that, look, whatever speech is protected by the First Amendment, that speech is going to be protected on university grounds, to the extent that calls even for something as horrific as genocide, if it's not, you know, a harassment, or if it's not
Yeah.
Like, Charles Murray wants to give a speech at one of these universities, all hell breaks loose.
Well, it's worse than that, right?
Like, I mean, you know, yes, we got to be clear, the recovery, the attempted recovery was about free speech, but the issue was never about free speech, right?
When Elise Stefanik questioned her, you know, Congresswoman from New York questioned it, it was about, does it violate their code of conduct?
Not free speech, right?
Because, and by the way, let's also not pretend it was ever about free speech, because I believe Harvard was ranked literally like the place that you could least express freedom of speech.
These are the same people who led the charge for, you know, words are a violence, and I have a feeling if it was me even 25 years ago at Penn, okay,
Saying, you know, calling for, even hypothetically, the genocide of the trans community before people lost their minds, then or today.
If it was me and, like, my frat boy buddies from the lacrosse team, if we said that today, we'd be out.
Like that.
Alright?
There would be no ambiguity.
There would be no chance for congressional testimony.
We would get no trial.
We would be thrown out on our asses.
If this was about anyone else other than, again, Jews likely to your point because they are also considered white and therefore it's okay to discriminate against them.
If it was about any other of their favorite protected classes or sort of, you know, check marks,
You would not be having this conversation because the people guilty of it would not have even had a chance before they were thrown out on their asses.
Absolutely.
And that's the thing.
And this is not very clearly not an issue of some kind of brave and principled defense of free speech saying, OK, the boundary of speech in camp is the First Amendment.
And that sort of informs their answer to these congressional inquiries about genocide and so forth.
It's not that at all.
It's just so plainly
Hippocrates.
I'm 100% fine.
I've been fighting for that, but that's not the way it works, right?
Everything's a problem.
You know, the work I've done with Michael Seifert in Public Square, literally trying to create an alternate economy.
How dare they?
This is their weapon.
I was like, excuse me, you've been canceling anyone on the right forever.
Now that we simply don't want to give our hard-earned dollars to a woke company that's been funding left-wing causes and hates your guts and would put us in the gulags, like, wait, now it's an extreme concept.
You know, and that's just voting with your wallet.
It's whether we talk about the sponsors of this show or action.
You know, build your own.
You don't like it?
Build your own.
Okay, so we do.
You know, we built Public Square, and now it's a radical platform for people.
I was like, wait a minute.
You guys have been doing this to us in the Public Square forever.
Now we simply say, hey, we're gonna play the same game as you, and now you don't like it.
Now they have a serious problem, and that's when they start all of a sudden magically talking about nuance.
When they're very clear, they want nothing to do with that kind of nuance, as long as they've been able to weaponize it to their gain.
Yes, no, that's that's very accurate.
And, you know, another question looming over this is, you know, we've identified these elite universities are a major component of American soft power.
I think to such a degree that I have had sort of
War game like conversations with people as to what were the various metrics and inflection points that would define whether China has in a meaningful respect surpassed the United States, not just in economics, but just generally.
And one would be if the elites of the world are fighting to send their kids to, you know, Peking University rather than Harvard.
That would be a major metric to say, okay, US is left in the dust.
These universities are very important.
We see all this woke nonsense, but there's also real stuff going on.
Harvard, for better or worse, and MIT, they have first picked the most talented people in the world.
You know, they can get away with a lot of this nonsense because of that.
But there's a question of how, how sustainable is this?
How far can they push it?
And China, you know, to continue with the China example, the Chinese are, you know, I think, lucky us that this is the case.
The Chinese are not as enterprising and
Thank you.
for otherwise cast away academics, highly talented academics.
So instead of going to Harvard and getting canceled, or if you're a really talented white guy who got denied because of the DEI policies, come to the Chinese University.
We'll give you a full scholarship and this or that.
If they really implemented a serious long-term plan along those lines, it could be very bad for us.
And we're already at the stage where we're seeing the fruits of this sort of DEI-inflected culture
America cancelled its most distinguished living scientist, James Watson, who discovered the structure of DNA.
We literally cancelled him.
He was banned from his own laboratory.
In fact, he was beaten down to such a state of impecuniousness that he had to auction off his Nobel Prize.
And it was actually a Russian who took such pity on him, some Russian oligarch, who bought his Nobel Prize and gave it back to him.
It's such a sad story of what America has done, but it's symbolic and it indicates this really dangerous direction we've gone in that's hostile to merit and free expression.
And yes, we still have a lot of comparative advantages, but those don't last forever if we continue along this trajectory.
Yeah, Fauci is the leader of medicine in America.
Now, he's clearly, you know, at best a journeyman scientist.
He was just better at being a bureaucrat.
He was better at snaking and screwing someone else who maybe came up with something else.
Or he pulled their funding so that they could never surpass whatever he was doing.
It was, you know, no more obvious example than Wuhan Lab League theory.
Like, of course it came from the lab that studies the virus in question, you know.
But if you said that as an academic,
You know, your funding was pulled, your research grants were gone, and therefore he'd get to control the narrative.
He was probably always at best average.
Honestly, at best average.
Probably less than that, but if you played the game, you know how to work the cameras, you know how to work a soundbite, and you're willing to screw other talent to maintain that hegemony at the top, it wouldn't matter.
And so we're definitely screwing ourselves in the process because of these things, and I think he's the perfect example of that.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
And sadly, he's not the only example by any means, but he is a particularly aggravating example, to be sure.
So, you've obviously been at the top of a lot of other things with Revolver News.
You've been at really the center, uncovering the January 6th, what I call the Fed'surrection, right?
I mean, it's been a while since you were on, but man, the soundbites I hear every week
Uh, you know, well, the FBI, we don't want to release the videos because it would, uh, show way too many of our officers, like, in the crowd.
I'm like, wait a minute, so you're there?
You're there.
We're to believe you weren't instigating, but you also did nothing to prevent anything from happening.
I mean, it's lunacy.
It's absolute lunacy.
You're lying before Congress.
Could you give us some of the latest updates of what you've uncovered?
And what are some of the missing puzzle pieces, right?
You know, we're getting it.
It's so flagrant now.
You know, we understand why they never wanted the video out because
The exculpatory evidence would be useful to the prisoners who've been denied due process, but it would also show what everyone's been saying.
You know, yet another conspiracy theory turned out to be 100% true because it was always the most plausible.
They've always been the bad actors, but we just can't actually show it.
I mean, can you tell us what's been going on there?
Absolutely.
This is one of the first major pieces that we published on this Fed's erection.
By now, it was years ago.
But we opened up the piece with an exchange between Senator Klobuchar and Christopher Wray.
You know, don't you guys just kick yourselves that you didn't have any informants in place and you weren't able to stop it.
Christopher Wray answers in a very kind of lawyer-like way to seem like he's accepting the premise of her question, that they didn't have any.
But he says, look, you can be darn tootin' though.
We're, you know, we would wish we had people in there.
We wish we could have stopped this and so forth.
But as you point out, through the years now, we've learned time and time again, going all the way back to years, you know, long report from
The New York Times acknowledging that just in the one Proud Boys organization, the militia group, there was extensive infiltration and that in fact,
There were informants going into the Capitol and informing to the FBI in real time as to what was going on.
There's another major case that I believe we've talked about the last time I was here, the case of Jeremy Brown, who had a misdemeanor trespassing charge that the aggressive DOJ was able to transform into a felony charge for which he's facing seven years.
And they only added on that stuff over a year later.
What did he do to aggravate them so much?
He published footage he had of Joint Terrorism Task Force agents trying to recruit him months before January 6th.
So they clearly, they're trying to recruit him to inform on the Oath Keepers month before, and it was clear from the context of the conversation, they knew something was going down.
Now we're getting all sorts of information about all sorts of agencies, not just the FBI, but the DHS, but military organizations and so forth, local police organizations.
That they've heard all of this chatter from all of these groups about things going on in January 6.
We reported on the Hippies for Trump bus that was a bus stop the day before January 6 on the 5th with explosives and other material.
And one of the people on that bus was one of the, you know, an active participant in January 6.
They weren't
Detained, clearly, because he was at January 6th.
And even when things like that happened, this was right by the Department of Justice building on the day before, Nancy Pelosi and her crew continued to deny Trump's repeated requests for additional security on that day.
So just all of these components that have been around for a long time for people paying attention are just
Getting reinforced and corroborated over and over and over again as new material comes to light, all adding up to a renewed sense of invigorated sense of confidence that this is indeed, it's not an insurrection.
It's far worse than that.
It's a fedsurrection.
And it's not simply that they knew about it and didn't do anything, which would be bad enough, but all evidence points to critical, the role of critical provocateurs
Who enabled this rally, otherwise rally, to turn into a riot through certain critical actions.
So it's a fedsurrection and I think it's important to understand the context that the regime put so much stock in this.
The stakes are so high because the narrative of the domestic terror insurrection of MAGA people was going to be the basis, the pretext,
for accelerating the weaponization of the national security state against us, the weaponization of the security apparatus against us.
So the stakes couldn't be higher for that.
And unfortunately, the truth has come out
I'm proud to have played a part in that.
A big role, a big part of it.
And it has severely disrupted this narrative in which the regime has invested a tremendous amount of time and energy to shove their version of events down our throats every day for years.
And now the people just don't buy it.
More and more.
So I get that, and I think the people watching this show don't buy it.
But honestly, I still see way too much silence from the Republicans.
Again, it's Wuhan lab leak theory.
There is no other plausible response, right?
It's the first unarmed insurrection in the history of the world.
Whatever disdain you have for federal law enforcement, that leadership, your government, it's not enough at this point.
And yet,
And yet, I don't even see that many Republicans talking about it.
I mean, there's a couple.
There's a couple people who get it.
But like, man, it's a tiny handful.
And when they're on there saying, oh, we couldn't possibly release the video of the FBI agents literally not just being there, but doing nothing, and worse, instigating, pushing people in a crowd, getting them fired up, doing this, and then doing nothing, opening the door, but running with the narrative for two years that they somehow broke at the door.
It never ends.
And yet, there's not enough people on our side actually talking about what's going on.
This isn't conspiratorial anymore.
There's no other plausible response.
Uh, you know, these people pushing, it's literally, Darren, it's worse than 9-11.
And Pearl Harbor, since we just had the anniversary of that a couple of days ago.
I mean, it's significantly worse than all of that.
Like, I don't know, the only person that was killed was Ashley Babbitt by someone who, in my opinion, clearly,
Uh, didn't know how to use a firearm and panicked, uh, who had a long record of bad, uh, firearms handling, and who probably wasn't qualified, and all of these things.
You're not allowed to say that because they paraded him out there, you know, as a hero.
Like, that guy might as have- he might as well have been awarded the- received the Congressional Medal of Honor, even though it's clear based on anything we've seen.
It's all been a big lie, but other than you, other than me, other than a couple people, perhaps here on Rumble,
No one's talking about it.
They're not even willing to have that conversation yet, which is scary because it means we're too far gone to actually get it back.
You make a really good point.
And this gets to an issue that I've experienced is there's, you know, there's something I call the playpen.
The playpen is the space of safe discourse, even kind of safe, partisan debate and criticism.
And I think overwhelmingly, most Republican elected officials, they want to stay
In the playpen of safe issues.
And you know, that can involve some of those safe issues are also important.
Like I think, you know, attacking socialism, that's kind of a safe issue for an elected Republican, but it's also important.
And then it's also kind of the performative stuff of saying, like, well, we'll look at, you know, AOC's dress and this kind of stuff.
But then there's stepping outside of the playpen.
And the Fed's erection
Story has always existed outside of the playpen because it to full to address it involves stirring up the hornet's nest.
And it gets to the complicated relationship that Republicans have with the security state.
Yeah.
And it's not an accident that most of the elected officials who have been brave enough to address this also happened to kind of be the MAGA corner, with some exceptions, like Thomas Massey, I wouldn't consider him a MAGA official.
But to his credit, he's been at the forefront of
Well, what about simultaneously the 702 stuff that's coming up, right?
I mean, that was the, you know, the apparatus by which all of this started.
And there's Republicans, well, no, we got to continue it.
We just got to let it roll.
I'm like, wait a minute.
Like if you want to spy on Iran and our enemies, do whatever you want.
But like, when you leave every possible window open to do it on American citizens, after the total lack of goodwill that you should have with the American citizens based on the abuse of said power, uh...
They're strangely quiet about that, and I sort of link it all in there.
Like, wait a minute.
How are you okay with continuing those things as is?
For seven years, they were clearly weaponized.
It was probably weaponized way before that.
It was just Trump derangement syndrome that brought it all out because it was so ridiculous.
It was so abused that now everyone sees exactly what it is.
Doesn't that tie into it as well?
Absolutely.
And it gets into the general question of the relationship between the Republican Party, Republican elected officials, and the national security state, which is a complicated relationship.
I mean, so much of what we now recognize as the national security bureaucracy, including a host of NGOs,
All right.
I think so.
Let's face it, the GOP has never fully come to terms with Donald Trump.
They sort of had to tolerate it because he's so popular.
It's why they're giving a voice to Liz Cheney right now.
Trump's got to be a dictator.
I'm like, wait a minute.
Like if there's one person that's functioning as a dictator there, it's the Democrats.
They're weaponized DOJ.
They're trying to censor
Uh, Americans, they're trying to jail their political opponents, they have jailed people who just don't agree with them, who are non-violent dissidents, like, uh, they're doing that.
And you, you know, you mentioned sort of Bush, but, you know, Dick Cheney, arguably one of the biggest architects of that disaster and the Iraq War and all of these things, his daughter,
Uh, they're giving a platform to the same people who really, really hated Dick Cheney.
His daughter's not that different.
If not, if anything, she's maybe worse.
Uh, and they're telling, you know, they're giving her a platform to say that Trump's a dictator when like, wait a minute, like, is anyone not putting this connection together?
I mean, it's so ridiculous and yet.
But you're right, it doesn't matter because they've never accepted that.
They sort of want to get through the Trump years, whether it's another four years or, you know, for them I imagine preferably sooner, and they can get back to business as usual.
They can lose, they can give up our country, eventually we'll be, you know, a communist state because that's what the Democratic Party is today.
It's not, they're not Democrats, they're Marxists, they're worse.
And
They're not even hiding that anymore, and yet they're willing to go along with that because, you know, they'll get a board seat at Raytheon, they'll have a six-figure retirement that they don't really deserve because they're not really competent and haven't actually accomplished anything, but, you know, they're in power and they can do that.
They'll send our kids to die in a war so they can get a couple extra more bucks as part of that board seat package retirement plan.
You know, it's not their kids that are going to be dying, it's yours.
Exactly.
And look,
You mentioned Raytheon and Boeing can go into that, and of course you can't say Boeing without thinking of Nikki Haley.
The new favorite child of the establishment, yes.
The 737 MAX candidate.
I don't know if that corresponds with her tenure, but it might as well.
Her whole biography, perfectly instantiated.
This is what they wanted.
This is what the evil, horrible Trump robbed them of because Nikki Haley was supposed to be
The story, Nikki Haley was supposed to be- It was her turn all of a sudden.
They decide that, not the voters.
If it hadn't been for Trump, they're thinking, oh, Nikki Haley would be it.
And then they say, okay, we have to make some concessions to Trump just by virtue of his sheer popularity.
So even though we really love Nikki Haley, we have to make some concessions.
So let's do this thing called, we'll tell
We'll tell the plebs, we'll tell these uninformed plebs, we'll tell them it's still Trumpism, but just without Trump.
And we'll get DeSantis and we'll give him the script and then, you know, we'll have to hold our nose a little bit because some of the things he says will be, you know, too much for us.
But that's the best we can get, of course.
But don't worry, we got a billion dollars that will change his mind in three days as soon as it's been weaponized against the MAGA, you know, actually.
We're good to go.
Safety crisis.
I mean, there's been a huge spike in near collision at airports around the country.
It's these kinds of stories that clearly aren't being covered.
What's going on there?
I imagine it's DEI strikes again, and then some.
We've seen it at the airlines.
We're seeing it with air traffic control.
And, you know, I don't know.
Like,
I don't care if my pilot is green, if they're purple, if they're blue, if they're the best pilot, that's who I want in charge of the stick if something goes wrong when I'm at 36,000 feet.
And given that I do, you know, a couple hundred thousand miles a year and travel, you know, this is something that, you know, the odds are I run into before the average traveler.
What is going on in aviation and just how bad is it?
This is a really important story.
One of our major pieces, uh, in the past several months, it's called crash landing.
And as you say, it does a deep dive into a very, very disturbing development within, uh, aviation industry in the United States, particularly within the air traffic control system.
And the interesting thing about that is, you know, most of these problems affecting the country, you could say, okay, well,
The 1% or whatever you want to call it, they can get out of these problems.
They, you know, public transportation is destroyed in the United States.
Well, you know, people can just have their own private cars and such.
The airlines are, you know, gone to crap.
Oh, you can just fly private and this sort of thing.
But the interesting thing about this issue is nobody can get out of it because even if you're flying a private,
You're still beholden to the decisions of air traffic controllers.
Uh, you know, to give to, you know, the lowest bidder or the lowest IQ individual.
That's not how it works.
I mean, nor should it be, but it doesn't seem to matter.
Like, it's not DEI, you know, hey, we could talk about academia, you know, I guess, you know, whatever.
It doesn't, it's going to affect our children and their learning, but like, you know, people aren't going to run into a wall going 500 miles an hour.
Right.
No, I mean, the reason I mentioned that this affects everybody, including, you know, the very wealthy flying private, is that, you know, there's this theory that I think in some context is partially true, that, you know, the DEI thing is kind of a let them eat cake type issue.
Okay, we'll let, you know, we'll let the, you know, the lower classes suffer the negative effects of the DEI, but
The people with money and connections can kind of cordon themselves off from most of the negative consequences.
And so there's an inference from that that there's not really genuine belief behind the madness.
And again, I think there's some partial truth to that.
But the fact that we've allowed the DEI disaster to erode the basic standards behind
We're good.
If it were more of this kind of cynical approach to things, you say, OK, well, we'll save the DEI stuff maybe for the airline commercials.
We'll save it maybe for the basket weaving courses.
But when it comes to the maintenance of critical infrastructure, like having airplanes not collide into each other, that's a special exception we'll make and just hire on the basis of merit.
But no,
Obama actually is responsible for a complete overhaul in the vetting and hiring standards applicable to air traffic controllers, such that they used to have a pure merit-based sort of SAT system.
They revolutionized it in order to implement what they call bio-questionnaires, which is just this really dumb method of ensuring that you test nothing
And there have been PhDs who've proven the remarkable thesis that the less substantive things you actually test, the fewer, uh, the less disparate impact you have racially.
So when you get to the point where the test- So what are some of these diversity initiatives?
I mean, I gotta hear about, like, what it- I read about that Obama test.
I don't know enough about the details, but it was literally like, if you dropped out of school, like,
You got more points.
Like, crazy.
Like, absolutely insane.
Like, again, you know, everyone wants those people to have a job, but maybe not guiding aircraft moving through space at 500 miles an hour, you know, in close proximity to one another.
Right.
No, I mean, you're thinking, you know, at second thought, maybe we should let them into, you know, Disney World, because at least they're not in the air traffic control.
Maybe they can do less damage, you know, playing Mickey Mouse or something like that.
But no, that's it's true.
And this story is very long.
It's very involved.
We talked to many people within the air traffic control community, current and retired.
We talked to spokespeople.
And the bottom line here is there's the Obama era overhaul that completely transformed the vetting mechanisms for employment.
I think so.
Um, pilots did not like and there was a dramatic acceleration of retirements in the COVID but also a hiring freeze as a result of COVID.
So one of our first major studies in Revolver
was a cost-benefit analysis using the metric life years of the COVID lockdowns.
And it showed that there's actually an order of magnitude worse in terms of loss of life years under the lockdown policies of Fauci.
But in that, we didn't even take into account the possibility of things like COVID hiring freezes could ultimately result in the next major aviation disaster.
And the numbers behind these are quite dramatic.
In the past 10 years, there's been a doubling of what they call near runway incursions of two airplanes nearly colliding into each other in the runway.
And there's been a similar increase of near midair collisions.
And so just given the numbers, it's only a matter of time.
And in fact, the New York Times, to its credit,
I have a feeling that's going to have a woker problem than somewhere like, you know, somewhere in Oklahoma.
One would, one would think, yes.
And, but the thing is there's this one air traffic controller and these, these aren't like, you know, it is a complicated job, but this guy made a very simple egregious error that came within milliseconds of costing hundreds of people their, their lives.
And guess what?
He's still working.
He's still working.
Yeah.
I mean, it's, it's, it's really, it's, and you know, you can guess it's, it's, uh, I'll just say it's a likely diversity hire based on the profile.
Yeah.
And that's the reality.
I mean, I imagine if you track down the statistics and the increase, the 50% up or the doubling of, you know, of these incidents, it's not from the people who've been there for 25 years, who are pilots themselves, who've been doing it and who were hired under a merit-based system.
And just one really funny anecdote from a former spokesperson who has given us the party line, which is frankly ridiculous across all dimensions.
But the funniest thing he said was, because we were talking to air traffic controllers, like, oh, the quality is, you know, crap.
Everything's, you know, really going downhill here.
So we asked the former spokesperson and his answer is, no, actually these new cohorts we're hiring are more qualified because they grew up playing more sophisticated video games.
I'm not making that up.
I mean, nothing surprises me anymore.
So it doesn't matter.
I mean, but yeah, listen, the world has lost its mind.
But like, are you seeing, you know, any broader shifts away from wokeism in major institutions?
I mean, you know, maybe the best example is sort of Elon Musk taking direct aim at Media Matters, right?
They're not an organization that's checking
Advertisers?
No, they've designed to weaponize to hurt their political foes with advertiser boycotts.
I mean, do you see any parallels between sort of the ethos of the America First movement and what Elon Musk is doing, you know, at X?
Um, absolutely.
There are not only parallels, but there are also I think really powerful complementarities, because I think Elon shows what can get done within the private sector.
There are inherent encumbrances that come with trying to make change through
We're good to go.
Elon took a very different approach.
One approach would be through government trying to restore free speech on the internet.
Elon took the kind of hostile takeover approach to Twitter, which I think has not been perfect, but it's been a major positive.
So I think next to Trump, Elon's sort of political awakening, his
I don't know.
And why rock the system when you're already doing very well?
So there's actually a reluctance to shake things up, because very few people, even with a lot of money, aspire to a glory and achievement beyond that.
I think Elon is someone who thinks in civilization terms, and so that kind of emboldens him.
Oh, and they're trying to take him out like they did Trump.
I mean, there's no question, right?
You got all of corporate weaponizing.
You see the advertisers still pulling it right now.
They're more than happy to, you know, to support, you know,
People who are doing, like, pedophile stuff, and that doesn't really matter.
But, you know, Elon Musk is rocking the boat.
I always said it with my father.
I mean, that's why we all have to sort of become unafraid.
It's why, like, doing this, and I'm always like, hey, like, share, subscribe, this stuff, so that people see it outside of the box.
Because if we all go forward with this mentality, understanding what's going on, it's harder to cancel.
But, you know, whether you're Trump as president, you know, the most powerful man in the world, there's no doubt.
These people can still cancel you.
They can still cancel Elon Musk.
He was the richest man in the world, I guess, until recently and all of this stuff.
And they're going to try.
We need to sort of band together to make sure that doesn't happen.
You can't do that with 1, 2, 3, 12, 20 powerful people.
You need, you know, 150 million Americans, you know, also getting behind them to prevent it from happening, to get it to get that message out there, to make sure that people are aware and that they see it.
Otherwise, they'll keep taking those people out.
They'll keep taking out the Trumps of the world.
They'll keep trying to take out the Elons of the world, which will create even more incentive for no one else to ever attempt to rock the boat.
And that's when we get into apathy and a serious problem.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
And there's no avoiding, you know, people think I'll step in there and I'll avoid the pain.
I can find some creative way.
If you step into the arena, you will face what I call the pain box.
And, you know, most people are not psychologically constituted to face.
I think one of, you know, your father's remarkable in many respects, but I think one of the maybe most unusual traits he has is this just
Superhuman ability to withstand stress coming from all sides as though it's like it's nothing.
It's really amazing.
And the reality is that you can't really teach that.
You have to be constituted in that way.
But you don't need an outlier that extreme to
We're good to go.
Um, you know, not just on Earth, but in, you know, Elon's thinking in galactic terms.
And, you know, unless we figure out the DEI question here, you know, we're, we're, we have no chance of getting to Mars.
And so all of these things are, are very connected.
And it's just, it's such a shame what a waste the whole diversity program has been.
You know, if we had dedicated, you know, since in the past half century,
The same amount of time, the same amount of resources, the same amount of just focus on building civilization as we had, you know, trying to force diversity in every place.
It's remarkable to think where we could be.
Yeah, we'd probably be on Mars already.
Exactly.
But we ain't getting there with, you know, DEI astronauts and third-rate physicists and, you know,
Bad mechanical engineers and it's just not going to happen.
But, you know, but that's where we are today.
Right.
And, you know, it's it's it's one of these weird things, you know, DEI is clearly driving things into the ground.
And I think a lot of the more sophisticated people behind DEI understand that.
And I think some of them think that
Yeah, but...
But AI is doing the same thing.
I mean, we've seen, you know, AI being taken over.
Wow, we got inclusive AI.
So wait, so it's artificial intelligence that's hamstrung by DEI or by, you know, woke mindset.
So you can't really tell the truth.
And we're going to make sure that, you know, we give someone the added benefit of the doubt because they've been somehow magically oppressed along the way.
And you see that happening even in AI.
And, you know, I know Elon, if we're talking about him, he was concerned about the future of AI.
And I think that's, it's very scary.
But I don't think our enemies, whether it's Russia, China, or Iran, they're not going to hamstring AI with DEI requirements like we would here in the United States.
And, like, that would leave us in the dust.
The way this is developing and how quickly that's developing, that in and of itself is very scary.
Absolutely, yes.
And my understanding is, you know, China, in certain key respects, has already surpassed us in AI.
Oh, I'm sure they have.
And they have inherent advantages just because, you know, AI is largely sort of data-driven, and they have billions of people to work with, and they're even more of a surveillance state than we are, you know, albeit slightly.
Yeah, we're much worse than we realize, but I think people are waking up to that every day.
Yes, yes.
Darren, how do you view the 2024 race right now, if we're going to talk about that?
Because a big part of that and a big part of our future is going to be dependent on sort of what happens there.
Are you optimistic?
Are you pessimistic?
What are going to be the big challenges?
What's going to be the nonsense that the Democrats come up with this time to try to manipulate an election?
Are you concerned about RFK Jr.
in a third-party run?
Where are you on all of that right now for 2024?
I'm not particularly concerned with RFK Jr.
I think it's still ambiguous as to what ultimate effect, if any, that would have.
I think the two main questions are how far will they be willing to go to stop Trump?
Because they've gone
Pretty far already.
They've gone pretty damn far already.
And he's a shoe in for the for the nomination.
Most polls that I've seen suggest that he would clobber Biden in a general election situation.
So this is a really dangerous time for for the Democrats.
They probably thought, OK, well, we'll be.
And, you know, no.
So there's that problem.
Clearly, what they've done isn't working, and in many cases, it's actually backfired.
I don't
Biden's increasingly a liability.
He's looking worse and worse.
It's less and less plausible, just the imagination, to think of somebody like that actually running for president again, much less, you know, serving a second term in the Oval Office.
But as I pointed out, there are, they face a very difficult strategic problem because the more the Hunter stuff comes to the fore, ironically,
The more Joe Biden wants to cling to the presidency and the pardon power that comes with it.
So to the extent that people thought that they could intimidate him out of office by sort of amplifying the hundreds of it has the opposite effect, I would say.
That's a really good point.
I've never thought about it.
Obviously, he's going to pardon him.
He's going to sit there.
But if some of these things drag out longer than that,
Which, by any reasonable measure, they could.
That creates a serious problem for him.
And again, right now it's not a problem for him because, you know, I think the DOJ is doing Hunter a favor, as I sort of stated in my opening monologue tonight.
Like, all of the things that Hunter bided, like the only things he's not charged with are literally the dozens of things where Joe is a recipient, a participant, someone who got 10% for the big guy, someone who's getting wire transfers.
It's only the Hunter stuff.
You know, so clearly the DOJ is running cover for Joe Biden as they have.
Right.
This is actually, you know, barely.
No, but it's an indictment.
He could go to jail.
He should be going to jail for 30x what he could possibly get from this.
They're just not going there.
Right.
Well, not yet.
But the very possibility that they could, I think it makes Joe Biden more kind of jealous of the powers of the presidency, so to speak.
And then there's the problem that
The fact that she's a woman of color and this could aggravate the Democrat base on top of
Biden already stirring up the base by being perceived, believe it or not, as too pro-Israel from the perspective of a lot of the radical base on the left.
So he's already kind of in the doghouse for that.
So to step over Kamala is another problem.
And then there's a question of even if you were to step over, who do you put in her place?
And so these are really kind of, there's no elegant solution to this as of yet, at least that I could think of.
If they'd have thought of it, they would have implemented it now.
So the question of how that all works out is one of the big ones.
And then the question of what else are they going to do to Trump now that all of the stuff they've already done hasn't worked?
Those, I think, are the two critical questions here in relation to 2024, because I think it's fair to say if the election were today between Trump and Biden, Trump would win, you know, just hands down.
Yeah, so my father, you know, they've been doing this, you know, he's going to be a dictator, according to Liz Cheney, the daughter of Darth Vader, you know, and the Atlantic and the mainstream media and the Washington Post.
I mean, they've been doing that dictator narrative.
I think he dispels it, you know, very quickly.
He had it sort of perfectly, did it perfectly in the Hannity Town Hall, where he's like, no, I'm not going to be a dictator.
Just on day one, where we shut down our border and we start drilling again to, you know, save our energy and save us from the insanity that's going on down there.
You know, can you give us, you know, what else would be part of your sort of day one agenda for a second Trump administration?
You know, that's a great question.
The irony of the whole dictator thing is, is that a dictator in its original sort of Roman context is precisely what we need.
And, you know, there was actually accountability for dictators.
And the left and the regime, they're the ones who enjoy a complete lack of accountability.
So even a dictator would be a vast improvement over what we actually have now in the precise sense of the term.
But as for what Trump should do, I think his policy proposals, his policy speeches have all been excellent.
He knows what to do in terms of addressing the censorship issue.
I think one of the main things he's going to have to do is address the lawfare that's coming from the regime and take that very seriously because we can't be in a position where every, you know, president running as a Republican who threatens to actually change things has to face criminal indictments.
So that needs to be addressed and we
I think so.
D. E. I. Bureaucracy.
So there's the National Security Bureaucracy that he's been taking on the swamp, but the D. E. I. Swamp in particular needs to be a needs to be a reckoning with some of the offshoots of the civil rights law that have put us in a position that is frankly disastrous and completely uncompetitive.
So those would be the main things that I would I would suggest.
All right, so you've led this charge on sort of taking on the mainstream media.
You know, I've done it with MXM News.
You've done it with Revolver News.
I'm an aggregator.
You guys are actually out there chasing down real stories and doing it.
Is the so-called mainstream media dead?
I mean, it seems like more than ever, outlets, NBC, ABC, The New York Times, The Washington Post, I mean, they have less control of the nerve.
They're trying desperately, and perhaps that desperation reeks so much that it's actually sort of
Perpetuating their own demise.
But, you know, where does that stand right now?
What are you seeing, you know, on the forefront of that fight?
Because it has been a problem that's been going on for a long time.
That's an interesting question.
And yes, I think the mainstream media has definitely weakened and suffered reputational damage, and deservedly so, particularly since Trump came into the scene and correctly identified them as fake news.
But now that I'm thinking about it, a distinction occurred to me between a
Kind of credibility crisis, which I think they have, and a legitimacy crisis.
Credibility crisis pertains to whether people actually believe anymore what they're told by the media, and I think that is a real thing.
I think there is a certain amount of legitimacy crisis, but not as much as you'd think.
And I give an explanation for that.
That even if people don't really buy what the New York Times is saying, there's still a sense that once the New York Times says it, now it's been properly admitted into the domain of consensus discourse.
It's only when the New York Times says it that it becomes
No, we could all know it well in advance, but it's all the New York Times still has that legitimacy in terms of functioning as the stamp of approval that allows it to become sort of common domain consensus, such that we can all talk about this thing as though it were real.
And that type of legitimacy is perfectly compatible with, you know,
A dwindling credibility, plummeting credibility.
And I think that dynamic hasn't been sufficiently explored.
I think and I think that applies to varying degrees across the mainstream media, although New York Times is sort of the flagship of that, which is why I use them as an example.
And then sort of at the conservative side.
I don't know.
How much it's screwed up, and that's a robustness that comes simply by virtue of, you know, the power of cable television.
So that would be my sort of mixed answer to that question.
I saw what Fox News clearly did for Ron DeSantis for two years.
I'll call it maybe the greatest all-time fluffing in the world, and yet it doesn't seem—who knows?
We're still 30-something days out from Iowa caucuses.
Who knows?
Maybe he pulls off the miracle they're all hoping for.
It didn't seem to move the needle much for him there, or it did initially, and then it sort of faded away, because eventually you have to sort of stand up on your own.
Does Ron DeSantis have a future in politics after sort of this campaign, after the flip-flopping, after, you know, if he doesn't, you know, magically overperform, you know, what happens next?
Yeah, that's a great question.
No, I think, you know, notwithstanding what I just said about the tremendous power of Fox News, even Fox News can't make Ron DeSantis an attractive candidate.
They tried hard.
I was watching.
I was like, what are you talking about?
Like, you know, I knew he wasn't, you know, because I said, hey, in 2018, I did like 30 events with him.
I opened for him.
I closed for him.
I did that.
And it's like, just wait until you see him in long form.
I mean, they anointed him president before he had spoken for more than 15 seconds in front of a real crowd.
And you realize like, oh, wait a minute, he doesn't have that, you know, on your feet, you know, sort of responses that Trump has or that, you know, frankly, so many of the other, you know, candidates have.
You see that in sort of the debate performances.
It's just incredibly uncomfortable.
So what happens next?
Yeah, for DeSantis, I mean, I can't really prognosticate other than to say that he has no presidential future.
You know, as to whether, you know, and it's sad, because look, you know, I thought he was a good governor of Florida, and he should have stayed governor, and I wish he had realized that, and because it's such a waste, because you see someone who could do well, you know, relatively.
I know he wasn't a perfect governor and all that, but
Who could do well in a relative context if he understood his place and his limitations.
Yeah, I think that's fair.
He's been campaigning for a year.
He's been in Iowa basically exclusively.
But guess what?
Florida was fine and we've had an absentee governor.
You live here.
I live here.
I guess he wasn't there when Lauderdale, where you live and stuff like that, was flooded.
He was in Iowa.
It was the longest book tour in the history of book tours that turned into a presidential campaign.
And yet, I guess in a place like Florida, you do have
People that sort of just believe what we believe and we believe in that freedom.
So it's sort of okay, even if you do have an absentee governor, at least for now.
I don't think that lasts forever.
For now, but you know, and the thing is, is that, you know, it's, I give him credit for the COVID stuff to a degree just because, but when you think about it, it's such a low standard.
It's like you become a great governor by not completely destroying the economy.
It's only by virtue of the other governors being so like incredibly bad.
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to understand you don't shut down the state over COVID.
That's not rocket science.
That should just be common sense to everybody and apply across the board.
But the unfortunate reality is it wasn't, and he to some degree stood up to that, and that was good.
No, I think he's dramatically depleted his political capital to the point where there's precious little left.
And I don't see any sign of that stopping, frankly, like there were various off ramps that he could have taken.
And he's resisted that for one reason or another, so I don't know how many more off-ramps, if any, he'll have to take.
So, you know, we'll just have to continue to watch this train wreck.
Darren, I really appreciate you being here, as always.
Guys, make sure to go check out
Revolver News and the other things that Darren is working on.
I mean, they're ahead of the game on a lot of these stories.
They're breaking actual, real news.
They're doing the work that we all want and probably would expect from our mainstream that's never going to be covered that way.
So always an awesome guest.
Darren, thanks so much for being here.
Again, check him out at Revolver News.
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