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Aug. 23, 2023 - Triggered - Donald Trump Jr

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LIVE COVERAGE OF GOP DEBATE: RINO Swamp Scared of MAGA More Than Ever - Rep MTG, Kari Lake, and More Join Live | TRIGGERED

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	What's going on?
	Great to be with you guys.
	Sorry, I think some people were confused with the 2 o'clock start time because it's 2 o'clock local.
	Milwaukee, so that's 3 o'clock East Coast.
	For those of you who already see it on the live stream, wondering what's going on.
	We just finished up with Viva for a little bit.
	So, hey, we're keeping this open.
	We don't have a script. We don't have a plan.
	We just want to talk to you guys, hear from you.
	We're live here with MTG at the Republican debate.
	Now, We were told earlier maybe we can actually still get onto the spin room floor after Fox News locked us out.
	We should have Markley lead the way.
	MTG and KG. Wait, do you think they'll let members of Congress like myself on the spin room floor?
	I would think. You would think that a member of Congress would qualify for, like, the Republican National Committee debates to be able to comment on it.
	I would think so. But it doesn't seem like that's the behavior of these organizations.
	What about canceled Americans? You know, I think you guys have been canceled a bunch.
	We've been canceled...
	We don't even notice anymore. I haven't canceled more than most.
	At this point, if I'm not canceled daily, I sort of feel like I'm underperforming.
	I'm not doing enough to really do this.
	All right, we got some pro-Trump people honking as they go by.
	We have one really lunatic person that seems to be following you around a lot, Marjorie.
	So thank you, Marjorie. You're really special.
	Marjorie! Marjorie!
	Marjorie! I'm just trolling, but...
	You know, that's one.
	But, you know, of course, the media will find that one person.
	They'll go down low to make it seem like it's a huge crowd, even if it's one person.
	They did that to my father once.
	They were protesting him.
	They go, a massive crowd. It was two people and a dog.
	Legitimately. That was all it was.
	And then they'll say they're a disgruntled Republican voter that can't vote for Trump again, right?
	I have a feeling, based on everything I've heard from that guy, he ain't Republican.
	He's disgruntled. But also, he is employed, because that seems pretty...
	He is employed for sure.
	Somebody's hired him. Yeah.
	What a talentful. Imagine the casting.
	What are you thinking right now, Marjorie?
	What do you think? What's going to happen tonight?
	Well, I think the debate's over.
	I know we haven't had the debate yet, but it's over.
	Everybody's decided. President Trump is who they want back.
	I am interested to hear the policy discussions and the questions asked.
	I think that's important to listen for.
	But... You know, I told your dad there's no reason for him to come back this week.
	He has nothing to prove against his candidates because he's already proven for four years that he was the greatest president of my lifetime.
	I think the greatest president that this country has had.
	And you know what it's really about?
	It's about $1.75 a gallon gasoline.
	That's right. And that's what we want back. That's what people care about.
	Well, and beyond that, I also don't think, you know, the people saying Trump's afraid to debate.
	I'm like, I don't know. I think he's got a pretty solid debate record.
	Yeah. Hillary learned that one the hard way.
	The words Trump and afraid do not go together.
	They don't go together. It don't make sense.
	And then there's also the notion of watching Fox do that.
	Literally, they're trying to convince him to go there for their ratings.
	Right. After basically shitting on him straight for two years.
	You know what I mean? Of course. The second he's out, it's like...
	They chose Ron DeSantis and they boosted him for a few months.
	Then you realize you got to meet Ron DeSantis and realize what the internet influencer groups, what they created, the personality that they created.
	You see him on a stage or you see him behind a bar.
	You know, you humans should have a beer with me because that's what humans do, I'm told.
	There's no personality. Missing the personality chip.
	You can't create that. And so now they're going to someone else and they'll keep going to someone else until they have someone that they can control in their entirety.
	But they didn't go and bet Trump and went to Bedminster to try to convince him to come and do the debate.
	Well, good. I'm glad they did that.
	They should ask them to come, because that's the right thing to do.
	That's the smart business decision for them, just like, even if they're, in my opinion, it's a ploy to give a bunch of other people polling at 1%, three hours of unfettered access to try to I do think they were going to rig the debate that way, in my opinion. Right.
	But I still understand why it's a smart business decision for them to try.
	I also understand why it's a smart decision for Trump not to do that.
	Trump didn't accomplish the things that he accomplished by being foolish and walking into a trap by people who have been shitting on him for the last two years.
	Exactly. That's not... Well, let's be real about what the debate's about.
	It's about the donors that are supporting this candidate, and it's about the political consultants that are taking the paycheck, and then it's about ratings.
	I mean, that's what this debate is really about, because the debate's over with Republican voters.
	They want President Trump back.
	That's really true. And just even the latest polling, he's up, you know, 50 points ahead of everyone else.
	He's been pretty strong at 62% of Republican likely voters to show up for him.
	He's their choice.
	So this is just sort of, you know, well, another big one.
	I want you to talk.
	I mean, initially, the argument was Trump can't beat Biden.
	That's why we need ex-candidate.
	But now, Trump's actually outperforming all of the other Republicans,
	especially Ron DeSantis, against Biden.
	So, the whole argument that they spun for six months is underwater.
	So, now it's like, what's the other reason now?
	Trump's the only guy that's actually beating Biden.
	Now, again, we got to remember, I don't think there's a sane human being in the world
	that really believes Joe Biden's doing a good job.
	But when you have, you know, trillion dollar mainstream media, trillion dollar social media, trillion dollars in big tech, all basically functioning as the marketing apparatus for the regime, it's a problem.
	I mean, you see the response to Hawaii.
	You see that, I mean, if that was Trump, he'd be in jail.
	And guess what? He would be in jail.
	I'd be there putting him in jail myself for that kind of response, for that kind of commentary.
	Joe Biden should be so ashamed.
	But he also doesn't learn.
	Marjorie, remember, I remember when he checked his watch as he was, you know, receiving the bodies of the 13 victims from his incompetent withdrawal in Afghanistan.
	He's checking his watch because, you know, he had to be on vacation again because 40% of his presidency has been on vacation.
	Like... He doesn't learn.
	He can't even figure it out because he doesn't get it.
	He doesn't care. He doesn't care.
	That's the Democrat Party.
	He's the representative of that.
	I'm not going to even just blame him because the guy in charge of the response in Hawaii, a former Obama guy, waited five hours because water needs to be distributed in equity.
	Oh my gosh. Whatever the fuck that means.
	Well, everything's equity for them, but it's not equitable because it has to be for minorities or your sexual identity or some other crazy reason.
	So... Well, what I want to see, I mean, it will be interesting in the weeks because the media has been awfully quiet.
	And again, if it was Trump, they'd be asking the question about what's the real death toll.
	Because they know. Yeah, they know.
	Children don't go magically missing, you know, in Hawaii for two weeks.
	That's true. And they haven't shown up at school.
	They haven't shown up at school.
	They haven't shown up anywhere. Right.
	Yes, an individual chunk can go missing.
	That happens all the time. And the human trafficking, which Trump did a lot about, and the Democrats were outraged that he did.
	So those of you who've watched the podcast, remember I spoke about it.
	I had Tim Ballard on a few weeks ago.
	I introduced him to the White House in 2016, or 17, right early.
	I met him in 16. And I was like, hey, you should talk to these guys about the problem.
	Everyone understands there's a problem with it, but you don't understand the magnitude, the volume of the kids that this happens to.
	And so back then I introduced Trump to the thing and they were like, oh my God, this is a real problem.
	So they founded a coalition and they put like 300 million behind it.
	And I was like, you know what?
	This is something we can all actually agree on.
	It's not even about political points.
	And the left lost their minds.
	Let me give you a statistic.
	Can we not agree on this? So child sex trafficking in my state of Georgia, I met with GEMA last week.
	And every single month in the state of Georgia...
	Over 7,200 times a child is sold for sex.
	Every month, over 7,200 times a child is sold for sex.
	That's so disgusting. But Fonnie Willis, the district attorney in Fulton County, thinks that her number one job is to get Trump and to arrest Trump.
	Because Atlanta...
	Fulton County is Atlanta, folks, because Atlanta is what we call not exactly known for being a safe place these days.
	No. Our murder rate is the same as Chicago.
	Why isn't she making her a platform to save those children?
	That's how pathetic it is.
	She should be recalled from office because of failure to actually serve the people and do her job.
	Some of the wealthier neighborhoods in Atlanta literally try to secede From Atlanta.
	Buckhead. Buckhead and all that.
	So that they could take their taxpayer dollars for the area.
	That's right. Just to have a security force in it.
	I supported them. Because the comps were basically told to stand down and they can't do it.
	Of course, it comes down to votes and they're going to go, no, we want to take your money so we can fund trans activism or whatever it is, not actual safety of their citizens.
	That's right. Let's see.
	Daft Monk said Don Jr., I think your father got blindsided by the swamp, but I think he's ready to rock this time.
	And I think you're 100% right.
	I mean, that's... No, but that's what it is.
	You came in as an outsider.
	There's some parts of that that are great.
	You're not beholden to their policy.
	You can do things that make sense, but...
	Or their money. Or their money.
	Yeah, or their money. That's right.
	Well, that's why some of the big boys don't want Trump this time, because they want someone that they control.
	That's right. They want someone that needs to take their call.
	That's how Washington works.
	It's all about the donors.
	I mean, you've seen that. Oh, I've seen it over and over.
	But you're different, Marjorie, because you actually raise a lot of money.
	One of the largest of any congressional, you know, seated congressional.
	Because people are inspired by her, like Trump.
	Actually, Congresswoman. Yeah, less than $200 donations.
	But it's small dollar donors. Oh, small dollars.
	That was like us. Ours was like $64 by the end of 2016.
	It was $64 over like three or four donations.
	It was like $17 a piece.
	And that's what scares me.
	Which is how it should be. That's how it should be, right?
	One big guy can write your super PAC, a billion dollars, and they can spend it how they want, which is how Ron DeSantis has raised money.
	When you look at his fundraising numbers, it's all the billionaire class.
	That's why the debate's happening.
	Yeah, it's just like a thank you to the billionaires and the D.C. establishment and not actually a debate.
	But I think 24 to me is about the elites versus the people.
	And the Democrat Party has basically decided that they represent the elites.
	And then there's a certain section of the Republican Party that represents the elites.
	And they look down on the people.
	Like, think about that song that just came out, Richmond, North of Richmond, by Oliver Anthony.
	Or his name is Chris, really.
	Yeah. He's coming out with bestseller after bestseller because it's right, and finally someone's going to say it.
	But the words in the song represent the forgotten American.
	You know, the American people that are barely getting by month after month.
	Food has doubled at the grocery store.
	Gas is now nearly $4 a gallon.
	Nobody can afford their electricity bills because the Green New Deal is like the greatest thing for the Democrat Party.
	That song represents the American people.
	And if they turn out and vote like they really can and it's possible, then we can completely defeat the party of the elites, which is the Uniparty in Washington, and the Democrat Party.
	And that's what this country...
	You see it at work every day.
	Yes. That this is actually happening.
	You hear more people starting to talk about it now because they're getting more informed.
	Yes. I used to think it was, like, the Democrats that just had disdain for, like, the hard-working men and women of the, you know, the MAGA voter, the America First people.
	Right. I thought it was just the Democrats.
	I now realize it's actually also the Republican establishment.
	Yes. Because you've got to think about it, man.
	Historically, or up until a few years ago...
	It was the Democrats that sort of did cater to the blue-collar worker.
	I think it was all a lie. And that, you know, a lie perpetuated by media that they really care about you.
	I think we all see that now.
	But there's a component of it that today...
	You know, Trump started that movement for the Republicans.
	Trump got those voters over there.
	That's right. But not everyone's willing to actually cater to those people in the Republican Party because they're, A, either incapable of it or unwilling to break from the billionaire donor class who still will, let's say, go soft on China because they can get their widget made for half a cent cheaper or otherwise.
	So, you know, it's actually the D.C. Uniparty that has the disdain for the hardworking American, I think.
	We absolutely do, and that's the problem.
	But I think people are starting to see it, and I think it's part of the, like...
	Kimberly, how are you liking this wind?
	I'm really loving it, yeah.
	Your hair's giving you a lipstick whiplash.
	Yes, exactly. It's like 95 degrees, so a fun fact behind the scenes here.
	We've got ice packs on the cameras here to, like, keep them cool.
	It's that cool. Hot.
	We've got our good friend Chris Pawlowski, the CEO of Rumble, actually administering the ice packs.
	He's now the key of ice.
	So if you like what Rumble's doing, you're going to like it even more to know that the CEO is taking a hands-on approach to make sure that everything's going smoothly.
	Doing an excellent job. We appreciate it, Chris.
	You're doing great. Although in my next life, I want to come back as a tech guy so I can wear a t-shirt and just get, you know, and go chill.
	I know, right? That's what you keep saying.
	I really appreciate what you're saying. Maybe so much that Kim is stunning on here.
	I mean... See, despite the wind and the lip gloss.
	I have to agree because if I don't, I'm in serious trouble.
	What are you doing with me?
	Don't throw me off of this stage.
	Exactly. I'm sorry, Marjorie.
	What were you going to say? I like your point you were making about the Washington elites and the policies.
	So if you look at what Joe Biden's doing, he wants to send $113 billion to Ukraine.
	He wants another $24 billion to go to Ukraine.
	But yet he's not worrying about these businesses that are barely hanging on.
	They barely made it through the COVID shutdowns.
	And now inflation is killing them, the price to stay in business, hire workers.
	This is not the party of the people or the worker.
	And what did he do with Maui?
	He's sending all the money over to Ukraine.
	$700. $700.
	This is someone who lost a child.
	They're going to get $700. But Vladimir Zelensky can get $130 billion, plus whatever the Pentagon misplaced of the $220 that they magically lost.
	Of course. Minor details like that.
	It's mind-boggling to me.
	Talk about this, because some of these are your colleagues in Congress and otherwise.
	It feels like...
	Again, I get where I come from.
	I understand that. But I also spend more time in real America than probably anyone on that debate stage tonight.
	I would agree with that. Whether it be through my hobbies or actually just doing these sort of boots on the ground.
	You mean your man stuff, babe.
	We don't say hobbies. Man stuff.
	Sorry, baby. But...
	What's interesting, you brought up Ukraine and the funding of that, but it feels like the vast majority of the people on that stage are actually for the never-ending war in Ukraine.
	That's why they're on the stage. That's what I'm trying to figure out because I guarantee you that not one single person on this will comment that it's a top five issue.
	I've done this on stage. I mean, I did stuff for some of your colleagues where I'm in their local markets in front of 1,500 people.
	Hey, is Ukraine the number one issue for you?
	Not a single hand. No.
	Number two. Top five.
	Is it a top ten issue?
	Not one hand goes up.
	No. But if you look at the people on this stage, and again, Ron DeSantis, for a brief moment, adapted the Trump...
	Remember when he did that on Tucker before Tucker was removed off of Fox?
	For a brief moment, he took sort of a Trump-lite approach on Ukraine.
	And then two days later, he recanted that, and he's full-on support of Ukraine and the never-ending war.
	Did he wear a green t-shirt just like Zelensky with a blue and yellow flag?
	I'm sure. You go for the obligatory photo op.
	Right, right. Like, every B-list, like, Hollywood actor.
	Yeah, Chris Chrissy's been over there, like, kissing Zelensky's butt.
	Have you seen the memes? I don't know if they're true, but I'm seeing all these videos of, like, Ukrainian beach clubs on the Black Sea.
	Oh, yeah, they're having a ball. They're just hanging out, having a ball.
	Well, some of it's not memes, babe.
	It's actual videos. Actually, it's just videos, but it's, like, become a meme because it's so stupid.
	So we're concerned. We're actually looking at an investigation, and I think this one is important, where we need to be seeing where this money goes.
	And I had an amendment that passed.
	Follow the money. Yeah, I had an amendment that passed to audit the money, but I haven't really seen the results of it yet, and I'm going to go back and keep pushing for that.
	But what some of us are suspecting is a lot of this money that's going to Ukraine is actually making its way around and working its way back into Democrat campaigns.
	And so this is why you're seeing the progressives who are supposedly anti-war.
	They're all in for Ukraine because they're profiting off of it.
	And then there's a lot of investments going on in Ukraine where there's people buying up land, investing businesses, because it's a place of the future because America is so invested in it.
	Well, we had James O'Keefe on the show, and he did that.
	My friend is back. Yeah, he's on Marjorie.
	Marjorie, your time is on Marjorie.
	Come take a picture with me.
	We had James O'Keefe on the show, and he had that investigation where he found all these people that were like, you know, people living in small houses, not wealthy, not, you know, just struggling.
	Well, you, ma'am, you donated $87,000 to the Democratic Party.
	And she's like, uh, the Democrat Party?
	I... How could I possibly?
	Sure, I donated four bucks at a time.
	It's unbelievable. And all these people.
	By the way, it's a shell game to pay off the contractors in D.C. I don't pretend that some of that money isn't being spent in the U.S., but I don't feel...
	You know, I understand that, you know, Raytheon and Boeing or whoever, you know, they watched Big Pharma get rich during COVID. And they're like, no, no, it's our turn back at the trough.
	And Joe Biden wants to give him some more money.
	He wants to buy up more masks and more vaccines.
	And there's no way. Hell no, we are not going back to that.
	Everyone says do not comply.
	There's a lot of chatter about that on social media.
	Yes. So talk about that because this is very obvious.
	This is how they got out of campaigning and doing anything.
	That's right. He avoided anything.
	He showed up at two events that had like two and a half people there.
	Yeah. Like, that was it.
	No, you're right, 100%.
	But here's the White House rolling out a COVID-19 pandemic preparedness plan as if any of us are concerned about COVID-19.
	No one is concerned.
	As a matter of fact, if one more person lectures me with a stupid piece of paper taped across their face, I'm ready to rip it off because it's such a joke.
	Those little paper masks, they don't do anything but make you look like an idiot.
	Well, they're actually bad for your health as well, quite frankly, just like that whole vaccine thing.
	But I can't hear you.
	Oh, by the way, this is a comment that I think some people could get interested in.
	I'm going to get in a lot of trouble for saying it, but it's MTG versus KG mud wrestling.
	Oh, my God. I'm just saying.
	I've got to bring it all up.
	This is the type of comments I get on my chat, Don, but now you're getting it on.
	Listen, I am not entirely against them.
	We don't need to mud wrestle.
	We can lay out by the pool and be much happier.
	Exactly. I wouldn't mind some nice, cool mud right now.
	A nice mud bath. To spin it back to Sirius, I do have a question because it's coming up a lot.
	I think we've got to address it.
	I know we've spoken about this because we've had that conversation, and I agree with a lot of what you've said, but there's a lot of commentary about, you know, MTG and McCarthy.
	Yes. Give them the explanation that you've given me in the past because I actually agree with it.
	I've said the same thing. I supported McCarthy A. Because I understand the realities of D.C. I may not be thrilled with those realities, but I can't operate in, like, you know, rose-colored glasses, imaginary unicorn world like the Democrats do.
	I've got to understand the reality.
	But talk about this a little bit, because a lot of people are asking, and I know the answer, but I think they should hear it from you, because I think it's important, and I think you're right about it.
	It's a great question, and I appreciate whoever's asking that question.
	So let me just frame it up like this.
	All three of us right here, Don and I, Kimberly, we all share the same conservative fantasies for America.
	We really want great conservative things.
	But we also have to function, members of Congress like myself have to function, in political reality.
	And the political reality is, and a lot of people don't understand, the Speaker of the House, whether it's Republican or Democrat, Primary role, 90% of the time, is raising money to support Republican members and support Republican candidates.
	And where the bills happen, where the committee work happens, and bills being passed on the floor, are largely with the members that make up the conference.
	So if you're frustrated like I am, I'm ready for impeachment and I was ready for it on Joe Biden's first day of office when I introduced articles of impeachment.
	And many people can't wait for it, you know, soon enough.
	If you're frustrated with that, it's not Kevin McCarthy's fault because he spent the last month and more Saying on every interview he's been on, he's ready for an impeachment inquiry, but yet we don't have the conference in place right now to make serious conservative changes.
	We only have 222 Republican members in the House.
	Yeah, if you lose four, you're out, basically.
	Right, and it takes 218 voting yes to accomplish anything.
	But the important part about that role, also again, the fundraising.
	Because that's what people don't understand.
	Why not Jim Jordan?
	Because Jim doesn't want to go to a fundraising dinner seven nights a week, 365.
	And all of you would be so upset if Jim Jordan was Speaker of the House, who I love, by the way.
	He was the first person to endorse me when I ran.
	And I voted with him, and we both voted for Kevin McCarthy.
	But he wouldn't be Chairman of Judiciary.
	Yeah, I want him in that role.
	We want him as chairman, and he doesn't want to go around the country fundraising.
	He wants to use his gifts and talents, being chairman of judiciary.
	Exactly. But here's the other part that people need to understand.
	Yeah, talk about the votes. Going into the Speaker's race, we only had one person that wanted to be Speaker of the House and had told us for more than, like, almost two years straight, and that was Kevin McCarthy.
	And for the last minute, for people to all of a sudden raise their hand and say, vote for me, We're good to go.
	And I'm not always happy with our 218 yes votes because I want 250 conservatives in the House of Representatives, but we don't have them.
	But people watching at home, you all are the ones that can send them.
	And so I'll beg you, please send us more conservative Republicans.
	It's really true. They have the power to do that and to keep in office the people who are actually getting work done and doing the hard work like you do and deliver results, which I think is really, you know, the sole reason, and just because you speak your mind as well, like Trump does, that you have the amount of support you do and you have the amount of followers and you have the financial contributions coming in.
	Then you go out of your way to help other members that, you know, are like-minded or actually worthwhile, where people get their money's worth from somebody that they actually send to Washington, D.C. So the concern is to, I want to go back to the votes really quick, about, you know, talked about impeachment and actually getting some of this important, like, conservative legislation put through.
	It does come down to the votes.
	People are wondering, hey, why hasn't Biden been impeached yet?
	Although the terrifying shock and awe reality of that is then we would have Kamala Harris.
	So, Marjorie! Yeah, I know.
	I'm a little bit torn on this one, Marjorie.
	I'm like, I kind of like, out of principle, I don't think the president of the United States should be making money from China and Ukraine and taking property.
	We don't want to call it.
	Minor details, but I'm also like...
	But you know what I want America to see that would happen in an impeachment inquiry or in our investigations in the House is America would get to see the real evidence of what Joe Biden has done while he's been in Washington for 50 years.
	Marjorie. Yeah, he's still down there.
	But anyways, that's what America needs to see with an impeachment inquiry.
	I agree. I agree.
	You're more into the fundraising side than I am.
	How do you like... People are asking how they make donations to Trump campaign without going through WinRed, because I guess you go right to the Super PAC, right?
	Well, that's MAGA Inc.
	You can go to MAGA Inc.
	and go to that website. Go to MAGAInc.com.
	And also, but the campaign, DonaldJTrump.com, but that's still often funneled through.
	So I guess you could go to the Super PAC to bypass anything like that if you...
	I know.
	Odd, but you still do get checks coming in in these days.
	Every once in a while, but it's so much easier to click a link.
	The system is crazy. It is crazy. And I think that's the other thing people don't understand, just like how...
	How crazy the systems are, right?
	Like, you know, just to work within some of these things.
	But yeah, I guess the best thing would be for Ma Gang that's typically super PAC stuff is bigger dollar donors, but they'll make it either way.
	But it's all important. It's all important.
	So they're independent of the campaign, but they're people that we like and trust.
	Right. To do things.
	And he needs the financial support.
	Absolutely. But even if, especially with all this legal warfare going on, the legal fund has been created as well.
	And so the problem is that people want to be able to contribute.
	They want to give. But it's also so important, more than just the money, is we like to get that information in of who's supporting, who wants to be involved, who we can tap to go to polling places or do field work, get out the vote, ground game, ballot harvest.
	Yeah, guys, get involved. You have some, you know, Have poll watchers, but don't find the sweetheart 90-year-old grandmother to be the poll watcher.
	Not that she wouldn't be giving her time.
	You need someone who's a killer.
	You need someone who's going to stand up to being locked out.
	Some of those 90-year-old grandmas are killers.
	And some of them are, but not all of them.
	You know what I mean? You need a lawyer, someone who's aggressive.
	They tried doing that to my brother in Philadelphia.
	He was a poll watcher for Philadelphia, and they wouldn't let him in.
	With his full armed Secret Service detail show, I'd be like, you're not getting in here.
	Those are the people we want poll watching.
	Yeah, we need an equivalent of that.
	We don't have much of that.
	This guy is going to take on seven Secret Service agents to prevent him from going in and watching whatever the hell they were doing in that room.
	What did they have to hide? We need some of that on our side.
	Because that's a real big deal.
	I keep seeing a lot of people saying that we will not comply.
	That's right. While I agree with it, let's be careful with this one.
	Because we will not comply means that we're going to even let the government get to a point where they're going to make us even think about complying with something.
	We're not going to worry about that. And that's where you and your colleagues have to come in and the Republican Party has to grow some cojones, so to speak.
	Because if we even get to that point again...
	Spanish is so good. Thank you, baby. I learned it by listening to you.
	She is right.
	If we even get to that point, it's right.
	But I mean, you're right.
	What has listening to the government gotten us positive in the last few years?
	And I actually saw something interesting about the Hawaii wildfires.
	I think they're saying we will not comply, though, about the mask and the vaccines.
	No, I agree. I'm just saying.
	We're not going back. We're not going back.
	We're not going to comply. No.
	But let's not even let it get to the point where we're faced with a decision about compliance.
	Right. Like, it should never get there.
	You guys got to shut that down.
	Absolutely. Before it ever becomes a decision that we have to make.
	Absolutely. If we ever do have to make that decision again, I agree fully.
	But I actually read an article.
	But the voters can do that. They can shut it down so it doesn't get to the do not comply.
	So again, throw Joe Biden out of office.
	So guys, this is why you got to go with Trump here.
	Because the product in this shit will keep...
	Just like a helmet. This wind's going to do nothing to this hair.
	I think it's seeped into your brain.
	I'm fine. But speaking of the compliance, I read an article, and I don't know if it's true, because I saw it somewhere on social, as I was coming here, and it was like one of the exits out of the Maui fires was blocked on purpose, or whatever. People were told to turn back around into the fires, and literally the only people that survived were the people that broke compliance and went around the barricades and just got away because of the insanity of these decisions.
	Thank God they did. I don't think that listening to too much from our government at this point is...
	You know what it is? Use your brain. Common sense.
	Because it doesn't make sense if somebody's telling you to do something, then do what you think is best.
	Because there's too many mistakes and errors like this, and then where's the accountability?
	We saw it with the hurricanes and Katrina and everything else and things that weren't handled right.
	But, you know, you've got to be a free, independent thinker and not a robot.
	You know, the wildfires have been happening in Maui for many years.
	My daughter spent a lot of summers out there.
	She lived in the summer You know, a bunch of years in a row.
	Went to school out there even for one year.
	And wildfires have been common for a long time.
	Where I have a hard time understanding is why there wasn't an alarm sounded for these people.
	I know they said it was a tsunami.
	It was for the tsunami. Doesn't matter.
	Wake them up so they know how to get out of their house and try to escape in time.
	Because even if they thought it was a tsunami, they know to get out.
	Yes, they would have known to get out.
	It serves the same purpose. And there aren't, so he says, well, that meant they would have gone to higher ground, and I understand that argument, but there aren't streets that go directly up the mountains right there in Lahaina.
	It's all more parallel roads along the highway and the ocean, and those people needed more time.
	And I'm not sure I want to go to higher ground in a fire.
	Yeah, but they would have... In a flood, maybe, but in a fire, sort of...
	Sure. Spread some help.
	And they wouldn't have driven up into a wildfire.
	Let's be realistic. People aren't stupid, but they would have gotten out of their homes.
	But the biggest thing we have to do coming up for legislation when we go back in session is there's no way that I will, and I know many of my colleagues won't, we're not going to vote for any type of funding bill that puts aid for Hawaii with money for Ukraine.
	That has to be separated.
	A Ukraine supplemental is not going to happen.
	And that's what the Democrats will try to do, though.
	Of course. Of course. We're going to send a trillion dollars of your hard-earned taxpayers' money and mortgage your children's future to the hilt to send four bucks to Hawaii.
	That's right. And it can't happen.
	And the second you vote against that, they're going to say, oh, you're hurting the people of Hawaii, like we're still going to fall for this idiocy anymore.
	Absolutely. And so it's important for anyone watching at home to understand, like, you know, going back to conservative fantasy and political reality, What we can do for our party, and I think, Don, you and I agree, is we have to get in and roll up our sleeves to make the changes.
	That means that you can't treat politics like a football game where every play is a Hail Mary.
	You have to get in and tactically make the changes in the Republican Party and do it incrementally.
	While sometimes we're making a long pass, a lot of times we've got to move the ball down the road.
	Last question, because you're in Congress right now.
	This is a good one. Should they not try to impeach Garland and Ray first before Biden?
	I mean, I find like Garland is actually just functioning.
	Well, people have asked that. He's like Joe Biden.
	It's personal, you know, attack dog slash lawyer.
	I would love to answer that. So I don't know if your viewers know, but I've introduced articles of impeachment on Christopher Ray, Merrick Garland, Joe Biden, We're good to go.
	For everyone watching, the only way to make it happen is we have to have 218 yes votes.
	So I'll end with this one.
	I implore people, listen, the best way to send us more conservative Republicans is vote.
	And there's a lot of people that are so angry right now, they don't even want to vote or they feel concerned about elections.
	Oh, by the way, that's like the Democrat dream comes true, by the way.
	They want you to not vote.
	100%. They want you to say we can't vote on the machines.
	They want you to say only day of only.
	No. Vote by any means possible and get everyone you know to vote because that's the only way that we can make changes in Washington.
	And it's not going to happen until we get the White House, the Senate, and a big control of the House.
	100%. Well, thank you so much, Marjorie.
	Appreciate you joining us. And also where people can go to your website to help and donate and get involved.
	Yes, mtg4america.com, mtg4america.com.
	I greatly appreciate it, especially the small-dollar donors.
	Thank you. Thank you. Have a great day, my friend.
	We'll see you soon. I'm going to go see my Marjorie friend.
	All right, guys. So, we have another guest coming on shortly.
	I apologize if I'm sweating like Joe Biden trying to complete a sentence.
	It is... Thank you, baby.
	It is 95 degrees out here, and despite the wind, it is really hot and humid.
	Oh, my God. Baby, you're going to give people the wrong idea with the iceberg on your chest there.
	Okay, relax. Relax, princess.
	Just relax. All right, we got Carrie Lake in the house.
	We got Carrie Lake coming on, folks.
	Woo! All right, Carrie. Any one and only?
	She's got her ninjas with her.
	What's going on? There you go.
	All right. Trump was right.
	Just slightly hot.
	Great. What's nice, you get to do this for like half an hour.
	We get to do it for like a full solid two hours.
	She's got the right hairdo, though.
	It's been blowing like crazy.
	You are in the shade, so you're smart.
	Kind of. I was just saying, I'm sweating like Joe Biden trying to complete a sentence.
	It is hot.
	It's ridiculous. But can we first start off by saying this?
	Are we on the air right now? We have been.
	Good heads up about that, right?
	Exactly. I haven't been because...
	Don't worry. Don's already ruined his show and mine because we're streaming simultaneously here.
	Joe Biden, I feel like watching him is like watching somebody rambling at a nursing home.
	It's sad. It's sad, but it's sad for America because we're in a dangerous world right now and your dad reminds people of that all the time.
	And thank God when he was in charge...
	We had strength. We are in such a weak spot as a country right now.
	And we're very preoccupied with all the things happening.
	And there's a lot of, you know, the economy's falling apart, the border's wide open.
	But we're on the verge of World War III. And I think they don't want us paying attention to what's happening.
	And I'm really worried about the state of the world right now.
	We should be. I mean, what I'm even more worried about is beyond the fact that they've actually said we're at the closest to nuclear war since the Cuban Missile Crisis in the 60s is that no one in the media is asking like, hey, is our policy being influenced by the millions of dollars paid to Hunter Biden?
	You know, his uncle, his ex-wife, his ex-mistress, the grandchildren, the children, I mean, like, literally everyone in the Biden family.
	You know, you would think that that would be a question.
	Like, if we know there's millions coming from those corrupt regimes to the Bidens, and these are the people making decisions about, you know, billions and hundreds of billions of dollars at this point.
	I mean, you'd think the media would even ask the question, but they won't.
	Nobody gets $10, $5, $15 million without strings attached.
	And unfortunately, the people that the Bidens have been taking bribes from are our enemies.
	I mean, the CCP, Kazakhstan, Ukraine.
	We're finding out that Moscow's mayor's wife gave Joe Biden millions.
	These have strings attached.
	And this means that Joe Biden is just out there sitting around staring at the wall while allowing the policy to be anti-American policy.
	And you know he's working for these other countries.
	Because he was paid off. I've never seen a policy that is more America last.
	I mean, they go as far as practically saying it.
	I mean, everything that Trump was able to accomplish taking on China just reversed in a second.
	So whatever the investment was in Hunter Biden, The greatest return on investment of any deal in modern history for trillions of dollars.
	And sadly for us, you know, but and then as we're finding all this information that's coming out and we get more information, thanks to some pretty brave folks in the U.S. House of Representatives who are finally investigating it, and we find out more and more.
	And every time we get another bombshell on the Biden family, another indictment comes down, another arrest, another attack on your dad.
	And It's all a diversion and distraction to keep us off what's really going on.
	When the real people who should be indicted right now by the DOJ are Hunter Biden, Joe Biden, the entire Biden family.
	If I had a dollar for every witch hunt they launched at President Trump and the entire family, I think we could pull enough money together to bribe Joe Biden into maybe doing something for America.
	I mean, that's the only way he responds, right?
	That's the only kind of, like, doing business that he understands and knows.
	Yeah, can we pay him a couple bucks just to go away?
	Maybe we can. Because I feel like, I mean, like, I'll contribute, like, six figures to Joe Biden just to, like, leave.
	No, then we get Kamala. If they don't, you know, just.
	That's true. Because I think that would be, well, that's a solid point.
	So what is everybody saying online about this debate tonight?
	Why do you want to say this really quick?
	I want to hear your thoughts. Hold on.
	It is our sweetheart here, fabulous woman's birthday today.
	Oh, that's right. 29.
	It's a great milestone.
	Thank you, Dawn. It is the 26th.
	The year that I have celebrated my 29th birthday, and I will continue to do so because it's serving me well.
	Just keep celebrating 29.
	No, it's been a wild year.
	I think about what was going on a year ago.
	We were in the middle of our incredible campaign, which was all about returning the government to We the People, much like, you know, the America First campaign.
	We had an Arizona First campaign. And you did it as an outsider.
	Actually, one of the questions I was going to ask you is, how does a conservative—this is from someone on Rumble—how does a conservative, Republican, low-income construction worker get a seat in Congress to vote?
	How do they start this process?
	You came in as an outsider. No, you were from media.
	It's a little different. But how does someone get involved in the political process as a neophyte?
	You should be able to. Did he say he's a construction worker?
	He says he's a construction worker. Our founding fathers envisioned that a farmer, a merchant, a construction worker could go to D.C., serve their district, their state, whatever it may be, and then go back home and live their life.
	Unfortunately, we've got a system where you go and you become a lifer and you never leave.
	And I think with your dad trying to restore our government and return it back to We the People, we were in the process of hopefully making that happen.
	But the political system is so deep.
	You know, you have to have millions of dollars.
	Thankfully, I, and similar to your dad, President Trump, had name ID. And I was so fortunate to have millions of dollars in name ID after being in front of the camera and as a broadcast journalist in Arizona for almost 30 years.
	So I had millions of dollars in name ID and that was able to get me around not having the billions of dollars that some of these other people had.
	I don't know really the answer to that.
	How do we get just a regular person?
	You may not run for Congress right off the bat, but run for your school board.
	Make a difference there.
	Get rid of, you know, one of the issues I know that drives all of us crazy, you know, get rid of the The bullshit, the indoctrination in your school board.
	Make a name for yourself there.
	That's right. Something that's not perhaps even a full-time job that you're doing on your side, you're volunteering your time.
	To me, that's almost more important than running for governor of Congress at a certain level.
	We have to capture those things and work our way up.
	And again, wanting to do it and then also being able to do it and do it well and be
	able to take the heat, they're two different things.
	There's a lot of people that want to do it and they say, you know, getting in that seat
	is a whole different world once you're there.
	So you've got to find, like I said, what we were talking earlier with Marjorie about poll
	watchers.
	Like, you know, a 90-year-old grandmother that's really sweet, probably not the best
	I love that they're willing to volunteer their time, but maybe she's better off doing something else.
	Find your friend who's the biggest tough guy killer, not violent way, but in terms of mental acuity and being a lawyer or something, to be able to spot, witness bullshit, and then, when they're intimidated by the Democrat left controlling that thing, actually stand up to it and not just be backed into a corner.
	I'm sure you saw a lot of people like that in Arizona with the nonsense that went on there.
	Well, and thankfully, you know, people said, what did you do to stop Election Friday?
	I said, well, we did everything we could on the front end.
	We had poll workers, poll watchers, observers, attorneys, but we would have never expected them to literally rig the machines to break down and sabotage Election Day.
	So we did all that, and thank goodness we did, because then we had people taking video, people documenting what was happening to show how they sabotaged Election Day.
	But you made a great point. Start down in the school board.
	Start down in your town council.
	Start volunteering at your kids' school.
	It's very local is how we save.
	When we go and start working and improving our neighborhoods, we improve our communities, our counties, and then our states.
	Maybe you don't aim for going right into the House of Representatives until you work your way up a little bit.
	Just like with the job. You start at the ground floor, you work hard, you prove yourself, and you move on up.
	It's not easy. I saw it with my father.
	They're like, you know, when people were like, hey, you should run for president.
	I'm like, I don't know. I'm not necessarily my dad where he could start right at the presidency.
	But he had a 30-year career.
	He had name ID. Out the wazoo.
	He was a CEO, an executive.
	It's a little different.
	And again, I'd love everyone to be able to have, but it doesn't always work that way, right?
	Well, we got into it.
	I decided, maybe I was a bit naive, guys.
	I really did believe that our founding fathers envisioned, and as Ronald Reagan said, citizen politicians.
	And I said, you know, everyone's encouraging me to run.
	We are in a world of hurt in Arizona.
	We have a wide open border.
	Maybe I'll just do it. And I jumped in.
	And I'm so glad I did, because our movement was really made up of real people in Arizona.
	And that movement is still strong.
	In a way, it's stronger today.
	I mean, I've seen it. And again, I've done this a lot.
	And, you know, with the exception of Trump, you know, there's not a candidate out there
	that, you know, has pulled that kind of, you know, just organic crowds, actual crowds,
	not not paid for, you know, not three people in a circle like Joe Biden's able to, you
	know, draw, but like, you know, actual organic crowds.
	So it's a it's a big deal.
	Here's a question for Kerry.
	Do you still speak with the anchors from Fox News in Phoenix?
	I speak with some of the people that I worked with.
	Very few.
	And it's not because there's any rift.
	I just, when God moved me out of that chapter of my life, it really was a final chapter and we closed a book.
	And we are in a new book now, and this book is about saving America.
	And so I don't have a lot of time.
	I occasionally will text somebody.
	There's a few people that I keep in touch with.
	You are on the road and working hard.
	And the one thing I want to say about having been involved in doing politics for a very long time, the grassroots level is really important.
	I mean, you may not be the most well-known person, but if you get out there and attend all these community events, show up at this stuff, make a name for yourself, volunteer, get involved with your local Republican groups.
	There's a path and a way to do that.
	Then next thing you know, you're the local county person that you're in charge, or in charge of this county, and you do get well-known.
	You show up at things like this, like the debates and whatever, and you talk to people.
	I mean, it's about doing the hard work.
	It really is. You may have name recognition, but you work really hard.
	I've worked hard my whole life because I came from a family where we didn't have a lot of means.
	We were poor, but nobody told us that.
	We just had to work hard for everything.
	You talk about that in your great book.
	Congratulations on getting that, doing really well in sales.
	It's amazing. It really is a good book, and I'm not just saying that because I wrote it.
	It's a great book. It's a page-turner.
	Where can people We'll get it. They can find it at CarrieLake.com.
	You can buy it straight from the publisher. And Don Jr.
	happens to be part of the publishing team.
	They tried shutting down conservative publishing during COVID lockdowns.
	I said, I'm bored. I've got to make sure we have voices for myself and for others.
	And so I'm very excited to have done that.
	One of the reasons that I went with Winning Team Publishing, besides trusting Don and Sergio's great, is because you promised that I could tell my story without being censored.
	Exactly. You go with one of these other publishers, they have the final say.
	And I knew that when I wanted to talk about election fraud and election theft and election crimes, they weren't going to let me talk about that.
	They weren't going to let me be honest. And so I really appreciate that.
	We really need a parallel economy that supports Americanism.
	And that's what it's all about. Yeah, by the way, I'm such a believer.
	I mean, Kim and I got involved with Public Square just to, again, create.
	We can vote with our wallets as well, and we have to because so much of corporate America has weaponized, whether it's Rumble or others, but with Public Square, just having a place where people can find businesses whose interests are aligned with them.
	That's right. Share your values.
	You can put that person's kid through soccer camp or whatever it is, or you can give it to Starbucks so they can donate it to trans-activism across the world.
	It seems like an easy choice.
	We just have to take the time to sign up to do these things, figure out where you can support people that share your values because that makes a big difference.
	Yeah, you're going to go out to dinner? I think we went out for Kimberly's dinner that night, and we were in, where was it?
	D.C.? We were in Washington, D.C. This was CPAC. We were at the Monocle restaurant, and we found it because we went on the public square.
	I'm the brains, babe.
	And we went on the public square.
	Okay, I'm just kidding. We went on the Public Square app.
	We were like, where are we going to go Washington, D.C. with, like, 16 super MAGA America first people to get murdered?
	It's Kim. It's Matt Gaetz. It's Carrie.
	Nigel Farage. Raheem Kassam.
	Terrence Williams, yeah. Terrence Williams.
	Like... Literally, like, this was a protest waiting to explode and happen.
	Where can we go in D.C. to not be just fully canceled?
	And so we looked up this restaurant.
	It was phenomenal. We're like, hey, it's last minute.
	Can you seat, like, 20?
	And they were like, who is it?
	I was like this. They were like, we'd love It was so...
	Even in the heart of the haters...
	You shot a video of it, it went viral.
	You know what, let me talk a little bit about that, because here we were in D.C. We were literally in the swamp with the family who has helped drain the swamp most, the Trump family.
	But I'm finding, and I'm traveling all over the country, I was in Portland, Oregon not too long ago, and I thought, okay, this could be really dicey.
	I've never had more people come up to me, want my picture, want to tell me thank you for what you're doing, fighting for election integrity.
	They said... We are trapped.
	We are held hostage in an election system that is so corrupt, we can't get out of it.
	So we appreciate you fighting for election integrity.
	In New York City, I'm walking down the street, people point to me, Carrie Lake, don't stop fighting.
	Our elections are messed up.
	Thank you for fighting for it.
	I really believe we have an opportunity, and I know that in the Make America Great movement, in the America First movement, Your dad brought a lot of people over who were former Democrats.
	There are millions of disaffected Democrats who are so wide awake now.
	They're realizing their retirement savings has shriveled up.
	They're realizing that they have to spend $700 more a month just to survive the way they were before in Joe Biden's economy.
	They're watching as the streets are not safe anymore, and they're going, wait a minute, this isn't the Democrat Party I thought it was.
	And if they look closely at President Trump's Agenda 47 and look at the solutions he has to solve these problems that Biden has gotten us into, I think that even Democrats will realize that, wow, these are solutions that are actually going to make all of our lives better.
	And I believe we have an opportunity to reach those disaffected Democrats who are fed up to hear watching what's happening.
	Carrie, you experienced that same phenomenon in your campaign where you were able to get disaffected Democrats and Libertarians and Independents.
	We went into the heart of Tucson, the most liberal part of Arizona.
	I just was talking to a woman today who's actually on the radio in Chicago, and she says, I gotta tell you, my mom is a major Democrat.
	She voted for you, and so many of her friends did.
	Democrats are fed up too, many of them, with what they're seeing.
	They don't even recognize this party.
	They want to make sure that the middle class is thriving.
	What do you mean, Carrie? Are you saying that trans-activism isn't the social justice issue of our time?
	Are you saying that energy independence is not at all important and we should take our oil from Iran, Venezuela, Saudi, and all those people who love us so much?
	We should divvy out water based on diversity, equity, and...
	Inclusion. Inclusion.
	No, I think we should all get water.
	I don't think you can get any water, babe. I would be so dehydrated, I would shrivel away like a raisin.
	You don't meet our standards, John.
	Unfortunately, you're not going to get water today.
	No water for you. Well, and that's where it's going.
	I mean, it's going to where we're going to be punished for thinking the wrong way in their world.
	And I believe we are the super majority.
	I really do. Common sense policies that are going to...
	Save America. And this is going to be interesting tonight.
	I'm really torn because I want to watch President Trump and Tucker Carlson.
	I want to get something very substantive.
	You can stream it on your phone. Maybe I'll listen to it in there.
	My father will be on counter-programming the debates.
	If you're going to watch the debate, watch it on Rumble.
	Because Rumble will be streaming the debate live.
	Don't watch it on Fox News.
	Yeah, don't give them the viewership because, honestly, you know, after two years of them shitting all over us, it's like, I'm not going to do that many favors.
	And they try to say that we couldn't come in there.
	I haven't been on for a year either.
	This is expert master... I was banned, but I was still polling at, like, second or third in the Republican primary.
	And you weren't even running. I got canceled.
	I got canceled a couple weeks ago.
	Do you see how much he likes getting canceled, though?
	Makes him happy. The night of the first indictment, arraignment, like, I was like...
	Why'd you get cancelled? I was supposed to be on and then I won't mention with who because they're still a friend but I think they got a call from Paul Ryan or someone and couldn't do it five minutes before the show.
	Apparently they had a better person to talk about my father's indictment as a surrogate than...
	Than me. Than Donald Trump Jr.?
	Than me. But, you know, I don't know.
	Maybe that person actually existed.
	Somehow I doubt it, but maybe.
	You know, you're an effective communicator, and you too effectively communicate the America First movement, the agenda, and the policy.
	And they, a lot of people don't want that.
	No, they don't. And that's why I think they were trying to ban people from the spin room.
	I think it might have gotten resolved, but, hey, listen, what is...
	Well, I think it got resolved because people basically started saying, hey, how are you any different than the Democrats who are trying to silence their opposition?
	Or... Or China, for that matter.
	So it was like, well, Florence News is going to not allow Congress people or people that ran for governor.
	And by the way, that would be a first, because all the debates, having worked for Fox for a zillion years, I mean, that would be unprecedented.
	It would be a first. I'm actually going to say that you don't have other people like Larry Elder and stuff on the stage.
	I am, too. Because I think they, you know, again, I see a bunch of, like, sort of neocon warmongers.
	I don't see someone who speaks...
	Not that language. For the real people.
	And Larry Elder, I saw him last night.
	You know, he had three. He met all the criteria, and they said it wasn't good enough.
	Larry speaks about problems that we really need to talk about, about fatherless homes, about school choice, freedom in our education, so that all kids can have the opportunity to get a good quality education.
	He speaks about issues that really need to be spoken about on that stage.
	And I hate that they're not letting him on.
	I'm still praying that there'll be a little miracle and somehow Larry Elder might end up on that stage.
	I think it'll make it a better debate.
	But the big event tonight that everyone's going to be watching is Tucker Carlson interviewing President Trump.
	And I talked to your dad probably an hour ago, and he said it's going to be a good interview.
	He sounds really good, but you know, he's also telling me, because I think things are going to get worse before they get better.
	And that's a tough place to be.
	Yeah, we talked to him last night. We're so in that mix that it's sort of like, we're used to like, how much worse can you get than four?
	But it's like, I think the American, it still hasn't gotten down to that level.
	I'm there. I'm ready for a change.
	But if some people aren't there yet, if things get worse, maybe they will get to that point.
	I hate to think we have to have things go so low before we can turn things around.
	I think really quickly about the debate tonight.
	It's kind of like we're at the Thanksgiving dinner and we're keeping an eye on the kids' table here.
	The vice presidential debate should be rather amusing.
	It'll be cute. Maybe it will be. It might be cute.
	Like the kids table. It'll be very cute.
	But what I'm hoping happens is that they don't spend their time attacking President Trump.
	I hope, conversely, they come out and show support for President Trump.
	The weaponization of our federal government against a political rival by Joe Biden and his cronies is reprehensible.
	Yes, it is. And criminal, in my opinion.
	And so I hope that they speak out and support of President Trump, talk about the issues, and show people that Republicans are all about solving our problems.
	Yeah, and I think the person that does that actually probably sees a boost towards the second-place poll.
	That'd be great. Because the guy that was in second place, I'm hearing, is now in fourth place.
	Yeah, well, you hear what he says.
	You see the flip-flops. They want consistency.
	They want this. That's right.
	You guys are awesome. Great having you guys all in.
	Thank you so much. And by the way, even getting here and flying over here, people were asking us, is Carrie Lake going to run?
	She's here on her birthday. On her birthday, working as usual.
	She's an animal. She's all in.
	I love it. People want to know about and are very supportive about you running for United States Senate.
	A lot of enthusiasm.
	Like I said, we were asked about it when we were on our way over here.
	I'm seriously considering it.
	It would be great to see more senators who have America First policies and ideology going into Washington, D.C., rather than pushing for the uniparty.
	And I'd like to see people there to help support President Trump's agenda.
	It's an agenda that's going to work for America, and I want to be there to support that.
	So I'm making up my mind here, hopefully in the next few months.
	Well, we're super excited and supportive of you.
	And where can people go to get more information?
	We blogged the book, but they want to get involved to support you.
	CarrieLake.com. You can go to my page on Twitter at CarrieLake, K-A-R-I-L-A-K-E, Getter Truth Social, Facebook, you know, all the usual suspects.
	But we do a lot on Twitter, and we're on Rumble as well.
	Awesome. Excellent. Thank you for both of what you guys are doing.
	One of the great couples in America.
	Thanks, guys. God bless. Well, guys, that was the great Carrie Lake.
	Excited to have her. Future U.S. Senator.
	Really interesting guest coming on right now for the next half hour.
	Patrick Bet-David. Woo!
	How are you? Ten minutes?
	Ten minutes? Okay, we got ten minutes. I think we're running a little bit low.
	I'm assuming Kimberly's cold because it's freezing here, right?
	I know, right? I'm just impressed you're wearing a suit.
	I was going to bring a jacket for you. Although, you know, I'm going to start looking like Ron DeSantis sweating through the shirts.
	The difference is I've been here for like an hour and a half.
	Took you 20 seconds to take a shot at Ron.
	Well, yeah. 20 seconds.
	It was quick. It was quick.
	I respect it. But listen, outside of politics, you do a lot, whether business and otherwise.
	I'd like to hear from you just your thoughts on strategy.
	You have the pundits, and I see the people on Fox News that used to be Trump people being told by Fox, Trump really should debate tonight.
	It makes a lot of sense. I mean, as an intelligent individual, if you're leading something by 60 points, do you give someone the freebie, the three-hour sort of freebie to try to take shots at you?
	You don't, but here's also the thing.
	If there has ever been a chance for Governor Ron DeSantis to make up...
	Imagine you're in the playoffs.
	Your team is down 3-0. Every game is Game 7.
	If he doesn't show up tonight, it's game over for him.
	Because next debate, your father's probably going to show up.
	And they're not going to get...
	Whether it's going to be CNN, whether it's going to be whoever doing the debate, they have to target on the person everybody wants to talk to.
	So 30-40% of it's going to go to...
	Your father. And then everybody else gets the other 60%.
	Today, it's free-for-all, which means Vivek's got an opportunity.
	We know he's been creating a lot of momentum for himself.
	You know, DeSantis got an opportunity.
	They're going to target them, too.
	I think Tim Scott's going to come up with what happened last week with, I think he just got 20 million commitment from Larry Ellison.
	Not saying he's supporting him, just kind of like, hey, here's where we are.
	But there's going to be potential for a few guys to step up tonight.
	Who do you think have stepped up recently?
	Who's saying the things in your mind that are important?
	People need to hear. You know, I'm curious about it.
	Obviously, I'm biased, right?
	I get that, but I can also understand my bias.
	I understand where I'm coming from, and that's fine.
	But, you know, I do see a lot of divergence with, if I just take the people on that stage, maybe not so much with the people who didn't quite make it, you know, There's a lot of sort of the neocon, like Ukraine war Republicans.
	I've never met that Republican in Wisconsin.
	There's plenty of them in D.C. Sure.
	What do you see there? Well, again, going back to it.
	So today, when you're thinking about strategy, Vivek, for me, has got the biggest upside.
	He's selling the dream.
	He's selling America. He's selling the concerns and connecting with the audience better than anybody else is on the right.
	It's just what you have to say. Put your father aside.
	And young people. And young people.
	And young people. And he's touching certain topics that's controversial, but he's doing it in a way that he's a very good communicator.
	He's almost like a trifecta.
	He's done well in business. He's young, very good at policies, very well-read.
	He's tough to debate. They try to corner him.
	Whether Acosta tried to corner him, everybody that's tried to corner him, he somehow, someway comes out.
	And I think that's big for him.
	Again, Ron, the biggest challenge with the governor...
	If we put on a golf score, okay, put golf score and put policies.
	He's going to be up there, okay, when he comes on to policies.
	Put, you know, military background.
	He's got the military background.
	Put experience in office running a big state winning during COVID. The governor's got it.
	There's no question about it, right?
	But when it comes down to connecting with me, I want to know that I relate to you, that you think about me.
	If you speak over me, you're going to lose me.
	So it's going to be very interesting to see if he knows how to connect with the audience today.
	Everybody else, Chris Christie, he's just here to be a useful, you know, take shots, and, you know, he's going to go after...
	Like he did with Marco Rubio in that debate.
	I understand why they want Trump to debate for ratings.
	Obviously, that's a smart business decision.
	I also understand that for Trump, it's smart to not...
	I mean, you don't put yourself in a position like that.
	Is anybody saying like he should be here?
	Who is saying that he should be here?
	Well, I see the Fox pundits.
	Some of them used to be Trump team.
	You know, corporate Fox is saying, no, it'd be a really good idea for Trump to show up.
	Like, I can't think of a single good idea.
	And again, it's not like Trump's never debated before.
	Like, I think Hillary learned that the hard way.
	He'll be fine. So did Jeb and so did all the others.
	So, I don't think he has any, like, bona fides to prove in that world.
	Plus, he has a record. But now he actually has something he didn't have coming in as an outsider.
	Right. He has a knowledge of who the snakes are and who's going to be beneficial.
	You know what I mean? Chris Christie's on that stage, and he'll talk about Trump's hiring.
	But he was in charge of the transition.
	The people that were initially put in there were literally recommended by Chris Christie.
	So, like, he had to do something different.
	Like he's there running a New Hampshire gubernatorial race, right?
	He's running a one state primary, spending all his time, money, resources so he can try
	to over perform there to try to turn that into some sort of other win there.
	Maybe not that stupid strategy, you know, you over perform in the second state.
	I don't think it's going anywhere.
	There's nothing about fighting for, there's only a couple people that are fighting for
	number one.
	Everybody else is fighting for a job or fighting for helping whatever else they're doing.
	I think the more important question people want to ask you is if you have any kind of
	insight on who your father may take as a VP.
	Is Tim Scott somebody that you guys are seeing as a potential?
	I think there's a lot of potential.
	I think there's a lot of people that perhaps aren't on that stage.
	Really?
	Oh yeah.
	I mean, listen, again, if I look at that stage, I see a lot of pro-Ukraine war Republicans.
	That doesn't exist. Certainly not in the America First movement.
	Again, that's the Mitch McConnell rhino Republican stance.
	That's wonderful. But Mitch said that with a straight face.
	It's the number one issue. I've literally, and I don't know if you know enough about what I do, but speak to grassroots Republican groups all over the world.
	And I'll ask the question.
	Is Ukraine a top issue for you?
	Top one? Two? Is it a top five?
	Is it top ten? I've never seen a single hand go up as a top ten issue, Ukraine.
	Not a single hand.
	I guarantee you thousands more people than Mitch McConnell has ever assembled.
	And it's just not an issue for our people right now.
	You know, it's the new religion of the left.
	And I'd like to sort of see your thoughts on that.
	You see the transition, right?
	It was climate change.
	The holy deity of that was Greta Thunberg, and then it became COVID, and that was Fauci.
	Then it became Zelensky, and now that's even dying off a little bit.
	It's going back to COVID. I don't know.
	I don't think it'll be Fauci this time.
	But, you know, how do you see that, where there's always someone they seem to worship?
	And it's become the religion of the left.
	Great marketing. Give them credit because, you know, what you sometimes have to do as a marketer, we have the issues that we all see, right?
	We can talk about border. It's an issue we all see.
	We can talk about economy.
	It's something we all see. We can talk about the national debt.
	It's something we all see. We can talk about Ukraine.
	Now there's a dissension, there's a division where you're kind of like, we give how much money to Ukraine?
	$125 billion? Yet we give $700 a person to Hawaii after what just took place here?
	You know how embarrassing that is for the administration?
	I thought that was The Onion. I read it, and I literally thought I was being punked.
	I felt the same way.
	You and I both. Honestly, it's disgusting.
	To me, like, you know, we can talk, and I'm guilty of it myself.
	We get outraged about stuff that's not really outrageous, and, you know, the other side does that much better than we do.
	But, like, when I saw that, I go, you know, Joe Biden, you know, I almost lost my Corvette once in a 20-minute house fire that was solved, like, magically, you know, in two seconds.
	Saying that to people who lost children...
	Now you're going to give them $700 as a consolation prize.
	But by the way, to me, that gets people to say, it's kind of like, you know, you have your kids, okay?
	You got your kids you're taking care of and a neighbor's kids, okay?
	Your kid has an issue.
	You don't pay for your kid's college education or you don't pay for your kids to go out there and start a business, but you pay for your neighbor's kids.
	Your kid is going to sit there and say, I'm sorry, I don't care which way we vote.
	Mom, Dad, why are you supporting the neighbor?
	So you're taking care of Ukraine, who's not even a neighbor, but you're not taking care of your own kids.
	Ukraine's border security is far more important than ours.
	That's where there's credibility to know.
	There's motives that you and I don't know about.
	Stuff behind closed doors or maybe even know about, but the public hasn't bought into it yet.
	But I think these types of issues are things that a lot of people are talking about, and we're going to see how they're going to address it tonight.
	By the way, to answer your other question, I think there's only two people we've highlighted during our time with you, Tim Scott and Vivek Ramaswamy, that are even two to even look at.
	I don't think the rest of them are worthy of any kind of vice presidential position or otherwise, and certainly not with our base.
	It's interesting. Vivek is actually saying the things that I probably agree with the most, but I just don't know where he was six months ago.
	Is that a good thing or is that a bad thing?
	I don't know because I do understand that.
	Listen, I am 45 now.
	I got brought into this wonderful political journey at like 38.
	And my views on things have changed once I've learned more.
	I say the biggest mistake I made in politics was not sort of getting and supporting General Flynn right off the bat.
	But I'm sitting there being like...
	I supported him. No, I didn't say anything against him, but I was like, well, if the CIA and the FBI and the NSA is saying that he did something, there must be some truth to it.
	I now realize that's total bullshit.
	There doesn't have to be any truth to any of these things.
	You should know better than anybody. You can evolve, but again, I don't know where Vivek was in 16 or 18.
	Did he feel any of these things?
	Or is he a smart business guy, which I think he is?
	And a smart marketer. He's adapting to what the crowd wants to hear, so I don't know that I can trust him yet, even if I like what he's saying.
	But... But that's okay. There's nothing wrong.
	It's his job to earn your trust, right?
	Have you done something with him yet?
	Have you had him on your show? I haven't, and so I don't know.
	I would love to see that.
	I'll give you these final thoughts with Vivek before we wrap up and go to the next guest.
	We did a town hall with him three weeks ago at the office.
	And one of the questions I asked him at the end, I said, so tell me about vaccine.
	Did you take the vaccine? And you could tell he was a little bit uncomfortable, but he said it.
	He says... Yeah, at the time I was traveling, I was trying to do business.
	I did take the vaccine, but if I had to do it all over again, I probably wouldn't.
	I think that's a very fair, you know, so they're asking about World Economic Forum, the link to Soros, some of those things where people are a little bit uncomfortable.
	That gets a little bit scarier. But we should keep asking it and see, investigate and see what we come up with.
	Well, I could say the same about Elon, right?
	I love what he's doing. I think he's a genius of our time, like an Einstein-type figure.
	I'm also worried that he's a little too close to China because he doesn't have a choice.
	You know, battery, technology, and Tesla.
	So you do have to take the good and the bad.
	You can say that something may be great, but you can still be cautious about something else.
	I think that's a fair approach. Let's stay, you know, they say only the paranoid survive.
	I think we should stay a little bit paranoid and see what happens.
	And Vivek is willing to put himself out there and answer the questions and show up.
	And we'll see how he does tonight.
	I'm looking to see how he performs tonight.
	I think that's likely the guy that probably overperforms if I have to look on, you know, based on everything else.
	So we'll see. And they're probably all going to be taking shots at Ron DeSantis.
	A few at Trump, but you'll see.
	I think there'll be plenty of Trump talk tonight.
	Can't wait to see how Ron handles that.
	Cannot wait to see that. They are going to come for him to take him down from that top spot.
	Well, Patrick, pleasure having you on.
	Thank you so much. Really wonderful to be with you.
	We'll see you, Ron. Thank you. We'll see you later on.
	Alright, Princess, what do we got now?
	Alright, let's see.
	Alex, are you coming on right now, or is Matt Gaetz?
	I'm wrestling you. Okay.
	Wrestling you, perfect. So, again, I apologize for the informality.
	What's happening, man? How's it going, guys?
	How are we doing? Doing well yourselves?
	Doing very well. So, what are you thinking so far?
	I'm thinking so far, I think this is a really exciting Secretary of Education debate.
	Who wants to be the dog catcher of America?
	Look, I think Ron DeSantis has a great track record to be Secretary of Education if he takes out that line about slavery and then go from there.
	But look, I think it's going to be an exciting Secretary of Education debate.
	That's how I'm looking at it. Well, Alex is not going to...
	I'm shocked that you came out of the gate hot, Alex.
	I'm shocked. I don't know why he wants to ruin the Secretary of Education position in the whole department.
	I don't understand. Well, how about we appoint him and then we abolish the Secretary of Education?
	Okay, there you go. There you go.
	So what are you thinking? Who overperformed tonight?
	Look, I think Vivek has raw political talent.
	I think that out of all of the candidates on the stage, he's the most authentic.
	He kind of channels some of that Trump energy that we saw in 2016.
	And he's not a career politician.
	I think that's exciting. I think that resonates with the people.
	But I think your father is winning this debate no matter what happens.
	Yeah, I think at the end, this is a, you know, this is, Trump is going to win the nomination.
	We know that. He's polling incredibly well.
	I mean, I was just in Pickens with your father, 50,000 people in weather just like this, and it was incredibly hot.
	So, I mean, there's certainly talent on the stage, for sure, but I think people want a return to what your father delivered on for the American people, and particularly the American worker.
	Well, you know, I always, you know, and I say it on the show a lot, I always say, you know, I'm the son of a billionaire, and if I'm pissed off when I'm at the grocery store, like, how is everyone else not feeling this?
	And how does every, how can anyone with a straight face not attribute literally each and every one of these things?
	I mean, there's not a single metric, frankly, economic or socioeconomic or just geopolitical at this point, that you could say that we're better off now than we were four years ago.
	And so the question is, how much influence do you think mainstream media, the cover that they run for Joe Biden and the Democrats?
	Because I don't want to even say it's Joe Biden.
	I don't think Joe Biden's capable of making even basic decisions, let alone major ones.
	The Democrat Party and whatever they're sticking in front of him to sign.
	Mainstream media, big tech and their influence over people, changing the narrative, pretending things are what they aren't, doing the sleight of hand that they've been doing for quite some time.
	They're getting caught now. But has the American people fully embraced that and understood just how badly they've been lied to?
	I think so. I mean, to your point, you go to the grocery store, you go to the gas station, you try to buy a house nowadays.
	You can't do it. You can't do any of the things that you did four years ago.
	You can't finance it. The rates are so high. I had a mortgage reset, just like an arm.
	Right. And I was like, literally, my interest rate doubled.
	Just the interest component of my mortgage doubled.
	And I'm like, if that's enough to be like, oh, crap, to me, what's it doing to a family living...
	You know, in their dream home, and all of a sudden that goes double, their price at the tanks are double, the price at the grocery store is double, and their wages have not grown.
	No. They've gone down, in fact.
	And, you know, inflation is just not, I mean, inflation is far surpassing wage growth.
	And this administration and all his policies are squarely going.
	So I think people wake up. I think they're waking up in a powerful way.
	And that's why, you know, President Trump is going to get the nomination again, and he's going to get back in the White House again.
	So to your point, as people waking up, it's like, hopefully we do get some of those disaffected, you know, Democrats, independents, libertarians, and more people, because we certainly need to probably get another, like, 15 million votes to ensure a win in the general election.
	So it's also about that outreach and getting that messaging across so that people understand, like, hey, listen, there's a choice, there's a difference, plus they have the benefit of having President Trump in office, so they have the juxtaposition of how the economy was, infrastructure, manufacturing, national security.
	You know, foreign policy, all of the above.
	At no point in 2020 was President Trump even remotely close in the polls, and he only lost by 40,000 votes.
	And, you know, you had in 2020, he was losing by 7 to 10 points in the polls, like, at this stage, and now he's winning in the real clear politics average, where he's the only Republican that can beat Joe Biden, according to What's out there right now.
	Yeah, we spoke about this earlier, I think, with Marjorie.
	And that used to be their entire argument.
	They based the entire DeSantis campaign around he's the only one that can beat Joe Biden.
	But there's not a single national poll that shows him actually doing that anymore.
	It did for a two-week period before people started actually hearing him...
	Speak for himself, not like a creation online.
	People started ruining him online.
	But actually seeing him on a stage or seeing him behind a bar or sweating like I am right now, but in like a two-minute speech in a cold area instead of 95 degrees out.
	That's just different. Well, a very smart man once tweeted, the more people learn about Ron DeSantis, the less they like Ron DeSantis.
	And that's just become the case.
	I think that could be me, but...
	Yeah, yeah. Well, that was based on...
	Having spent weeks with him in 2018 helping him, you know, run.
	You do something, you do, you know, weeks on a bus with someone, you do a headline for them, you get up there, you get the crowds, you do that, you get your father to do it.
	You know, I mean, I spent real time, you know, you don't get a thank you or a callback or this.
	It's just a political machine.
	It's like whatever he's going to do to please whoever's going to get him to that next area.
	But beyond that, you also see him on stage and you realize it's like there's no charisma, there's no...
	I mean, if his wife was actually running, there's a little bit of charisma there at least.
	A little bit. She's not, so it's different.
	And I think to your point, I mean, look, people want somebody authentic.
	I mean, no one questions the authenticity of your dad.
	I mean, they want somebody who's real, who delivers, who has delivered.
	And people just want real.
	I mean, I think they're tired of cookie-cutter, you know, sterile, stale politics as normal.
	I mean, they go to the grocery store every day and they go, you know, why can't I not even buy a dozen eggs right now?
	It's just ridiculous. Who's the young guy?
	He's so smart. Oh God, I can't believe I'm...
	It's true. It's true.
	Did you put that in? Many people have said that.
	I think Alex has been tweeting. Guys, it's Alex Brujewicz.
	Follow him on Twitter. You'll see probably in my feed somewhere there.
	It's true. Because I'm not going to even attempt to spell Brujewicz as much time as I spent with you.
	That's a disaster. But yes, young, aggressive, conservative.
	On the Trump train since like high school.
	True. Still a baby.
	But early retweet from Donald Trump and he just got involved in the game and has become a political animal since.
	MSNBC called me Trump's top Twitter troll today.
	So, you know, I got the MSNBC show.
	Apparently I'm losing my touch. Well, I say that you're the intellectual, and I'm the troll.
	So, you know, you graduated. I'm like, oh, God, I can't say it.
	I was like, oh, Alex will say that.
	Like, let him say that. Don Jr.
	and Cat Turner are the intellectual thought leaders of our party, and I'll take the troll.
	Yeah. Oh my god.
	You gotta put that on his Twitter profile or something.
	He's just out there. Top troll per MSNBC. Dude, Russell, remember, it's important to remember that Russell took out Rhino, Tom Rice, after he voted to impeach Trump.
	Russell stepped up and knocked him out and it wasn't even close, was it?
	That's a big one. So what else was going on?
	I mean, at least in Congress right now, we're doing the oversight stuff.
	I served with Jamie Comer. I think he's doing a great job.
	I mean, you know, you got two lanes, really.
	You got the Hunter Biden corruption, the crime family, and then you've got the cover-up.
	And I think that's really the biggest thing to me.
	Yeah, Watergate was the cover.
	Right. I mean, there's a real crime here, too.
	Do you have enough time to get both of those things done?
	I'm sort of glad that you guys are focused in on two things, not, you know, we have to make the mistake, and I think part of it is the Democrats sort of set us up.
	Yeah. Every shining up, let's chase it all, and there's not enough time when you deal with the process, and there is a process.
	You ask for something, and they have three weeks, and you'll get that on the seventh day in the 23rd hour, 59th minute, 59th second of that three weeks, you'll get it.
	And then there'll be an error, and then it starts the clock again.
	They're obviously trying to slow play, you guys.
	What can you do to prevent that from happening in oversight?
	I think they've been aggressive. One thing, at least from an internal staff perspective, the lawyers that are in oversight and judiciary, they're seasoned.
	They've done this before. I say this on the stump a lot, but I think we've done more in six months than some of these agencies have done in six years, which is uncomfortable.
	You have an FD-1023.
	That says that Hunter and Joe got five million apiece, and nobody investigates it?
	I mean, this is just... Well, by the way, the media's not even asking the question.
	If it was Don Jr., and I mean, we were actually international business people before this.
	Not like I magically became one the second my father, you know, won the presidency and formed all the shell entities.
	I mean, you had more than smoke.
	You actually have real evidence. And no one's even like, they're like, ho-ho.
	No. They're also not asking whether our Ukraine policy is being influenced by the fact that someone else knows this and is holding it over their heads.
	These are basic questions if we had a media rather than regime propagandist they'd be asking.
	Well, and they do this all the time. I mean, the day...
	I told this story today.
	The day that we dropped the initial tranche of financial disclosure, we gave the media...
	It was easy. Here's the blueprint.
	Here's all the transactions. Here's pictures.
	You can see everything. And they wanted to talk about...
	Republicans and, like, Republicans who were in trouble.
	And I'm going, guys, like, you just dropped the biggest, most salacious bombshell ever, and you want to talk about something completely different?
	Where is our national media?
	But they're finally, I think they're finally starting to pay attention a little bit.
	Well, we appreciate it, guys.
	We appreciate what you're doing. Thanks for all of that.
	Keep it going. And if not, Alex is going to hate-tweet you, so you better make sure that happens.
	And I may just retweet it.
	It's not quite as bad as saying it myself.
	That's right. Good to see you. Thank you for being with us.
	God bless. Alex, we see you.
	God bless. All right, guys.
	We're still alive. We're still going strong.
	And we have the great Matt Gates coming on next.
	Matt always brings the fire.
	Although, with this wind, the hair may be...
	You gotta get some of the Don Jr.
	hair product. You need some of the Don Jr. product, Matt.
	Your hair's too nice and the flow is too great, but it's susceptible to the wind like a sail.
	And the only place where there's any air conditioning is a tiny little room down there.
	Yes. And if you deploy the amount of hairspray that I require in a room like that, it becomes very combustible.
	Listen, I come from a family of, let's say, you know, hairspray addicts.
	It's hard to be in the room with my father without holding it.
	I used his hairspray once. They almost kicked me off the campaign.
	Yeah, there's a diacope in a hairspray.
	There's only 12 bottles, Matt.
	There's only 12 bottles. You can't touch it.
	We must preserve. The key, Matt, is to be, like, one of the last ones after he leaves, and they leave some of the cans there, and you snag those.
	Okay, that's the pro tip.
	So, can we just walk through what is happening right before our eyes?
	Yeah, I can't see it.
	40 Trump supporters have shown up with some unpleasant things to say about Governor DeSantis on their signs, and they're standing in front of the never back down, or as we sometimes call it, the always back down bus.
	Well, never back down to your billionaire donors.
	By the way, they've backed down on the bus itself.
	The bus has been commandeered.
	If they get any closer to that bus, this is actually an insurrection.
	Ginger, go find the leader of that group.
	We may have to bring them onto the live stream right now.
	But I tell you, it's quite something here with our candidate in such a historic position.
	Not since George W. Bush in 2000 has someone had a lead like this in Iowa.
	And I think it's because people...
	Who are going to be voting in these primaries and participating in these caucuses know the fight we are in.
	And these other folks, I'm sure, are kind people and have got some good ideas, but we don't want to be on MSNBC as the fake contributor.
	Sure, sure. Whatever it is that brought them to this moment.
	It is certainly not taking on a corrupt administrative state that has been turned against regular people.
	The media focuses a lot about how it's been turned against President Trump, and that's troubling.
	But they're just regular folks out there every day wondering why they're not able to get a building permit and make housing a little more affordable in their community.
	There's a teacher out there somewhere filling out their seventh form for the Federal Department of Education.
	And we're going to be their voice.
	And we're going to put people in this administration, when President Trump is back in power, who are going to be back on the side of everyday folks.
	Honestly, talk a little bit about it.
	You're from Florida, obviously.
	Rhonda Sanders is your governor.
	And Rhonda's being from Florida.
	Thank you for that.
	Pro too. Yeah, but talk a little bit about what people do.
	You're seeing the decline in the polls, and it's because, in my opinion, they're actually getting to see the guy, not the creation online.
	Yeah, look, we're all a little quirky.
	You actually warned me about this a long time ago.
	You were onto this, being like, hey, listen, you're going to do all this work, you're not even going to get a thank you, and you were right.
	Yeah. So, in a lot of parts of politics, right, if you grab on to certain vectors, like really impressive fundraising, or you're exceptional at media, or you give great speeches, that will take you really far.
	You can win congressional seats, become a senator, a governor.
	But the key vertical you've got to be able to really master to become president is to show that empathy and to create that connection.
	And no super PAC can buy it for you.
	You know, when Donald Trump walks in to a Dairy Queen or a pizza parlor and the place erupts, when he shows up at the Iowa State Fair and people wait by the thousands baking on asphalt just for a chance to get a glimpse at him, there's a connection there that is so real and so powerful.
	And it's actually why I think so many of the interests, the corrupt interests in this country Are working against President Trump because they see the nature of that.
	And, you know, Ron has many talents.
	He's a bright guy. But he doesn't connect with people in a way that I think you have to be able to run for president in this day and age.
	And you can't manufacture that. So I think people are seeing it.
	It was easy to be in kind of Florida in our little, like, you know, sunshine state bubble.
	And then now that he's had to get out there and interact with more people and do interviews, it's been a challenge.
	It's been a challenge. But I admit, like, we're all a little weird, right?
	Like, if you ran for President KG or Don ran or I ran, there'd be things about us that are a little weird that people would pick up on.
	Ron just happens to have a ton of those.
	An avalanche of them.
	And they are consuming the whole candidacy.
	But I want to talk to you about this because a lot of people are saying, well, who's going to be the one to watch tonight?
	I think he's got the most pressure on him because he needs to...
	I'm watching Doug Burgum.
	A big breakout from North Dakota's Doug Burgum.
	When people hear North Dakota's story, you're going to see these bullsmen.
	I actually campaigned for Burgum a couple times, and I was like, I didn't remember, when they were like, the North Dakota governor, I was like, I couldn't remember his name.
	So I was like, yeah, you know, it's different, I guess.
	It's interesting. Let's see what happens.
	I gave a quote to a reporter about Doug Burgum today where I misspelled the name and then the reporter didn't know to correct it before printing it.
	So you're saying there's a chance.
	Yes. No, I honestly, you know, it's do or die time for Ron DeSantis.
	And in a lot of ways...
	People are on this stage for their own legacy in the party.
	In a way Vivek Ramaswamy is trying to create a legacy around a series of ideas.
	I think Ron DeSantis is going to have to return to Florida, be the governor for two additional years.
	And he wants that legacy to be preserved.
	I live there and I saw, you know, sort of unprecedented flooding in Fort Lauderdale.
	But he's on, you know, he was on the perpetual book tour.
	The longest book tour in the history of book tours.
	And the three of us know book tours.
	And we know book tours. I've done a lot of them.
	We know book tours. The second longest on the planet Earth.
	Probably. But, you know, it's just different.
	Like, you're also... People of Florida elected him to actually run that state.
	To be governor. Knowing you were going to do this because, you know...
	And he was just reelected and then he took off.
	You know... Six months later, you're doing this.
	Is it going to be a full-time job for two years?
	Like, who's actually running the state?
	And again, if Glenn Youngkin gets in...
	So, like, is all the things that he did, how much is it really the governor?
	Well, we've had, you know, generations of Republican success in Florida that I think have, you know, put us in a position where we could tell a good story.
	If you see a Glenn Youngkin get in this race after Iowa, which I think is quite possible, the very dynamic you just described, I think will also arrest some of his political capability.
	Because imagine being a Virginian, you're like, we elect you for one four-year term, and you can't even give us the full deal before running for president.
	Well, the reality, though, I think, I mean, if Glenn Youngkin gets in, that's the death knell for Ron DeSantis.
	Oh, sure. I mean, there's a... Well, the theory of the case is that in Iowa, after the DeSantis campaign folds up shop and after the Mike Pence campaign folds up shop, that someone could reemerge to try to coalesce those entities.
	Now, you know, I don't think that the gluttonous Chris Christie is going to get out in New Hampshire for Glenn Youngkin or anyone else.
	You mean the single state presidential candidate?
	Yeah, I mean, I've never seen someone announce their campaign for presidency in front of a crowd so small it looks like a homeowners association meeting.
	Van the HOA. Right, right.
	Well, and if Chris Christie ends up dead under strange circumstances, KG, I am your alibi.
	Exactly. I was with you no matter what happened.
	The nerve of him, okay? Yeah.
	How about his poor, long-suffering wife?
	You want to talk about Mistress Christie?
	Oh boy. This is going to be a hot hour!
	It's going to get hot!
	It's going to get hot, but no.
	Fats. Yeah. I feel like it's getting so hot, I'm actually sweating like Kris Kris Kidd in a buffet line.
	Oh my god, the Kris Kris Kidd just keeps going.
	Listen, I think he may have chosen New Hampshire because of all the wonderful diners that people have to go.
	I hear the maple syrup is terrific.
	There's another one. You can drink it straight, almost like Elf.
	That's right. So what else do you see, Matt?
	What are you expecting to see most out of tonight?
	And by the way, there are a lot of people in here.
	Matt Gaetz. What's the next move?
	I see some Matt Gaetz for president.
	Oh, no, no, no. Matt Gaetz for governor.
	I want him to be governor first for Florida.
	If you run for governor, will you promise to at least be governor?
	I would definitely enjoy that job so much I would never leave it if I ever got that opportunity.
	I'm going to pre-endorse Matt Gaetz for governor of Florida right now.
	Same. No, I beat you to it, baby.
	I'm the first endorsement of Matt Gaetz for governor.
	I already told him. Because I just want to see the meltdown.
	The media absolute meltdown to that announcement.
	I just want to be your campaign manager, fundraiser, or whatever.
	I will work on that campaign aggressively.
	Well, I'm not in the race yet, but I've signed up my first volunteer.
	Exactly. And my second.
	I am the first and second, and Kim's the second volunteer.
	And by the way, now this might be a little bit intriguing, but people talking about that his wife wants to run.
	Gov Gates. Oh yes, Matt Gov. Well, here's the other thing.
	When we campaign, we have fun.
	You know, we've campaigned a lot together and it's a joyful thing.
	And when you see some of these candidates, they look so labored and it's like it's torture for them to actually be around people.
	Well, because they don't have personality. They're not good with people.
	When they give me the mic and they're like, well, what's your speech going to be about?
	I don't know. None of us know.
	But like, I'll have a good time.
	And so will the crowd.
	I got a little sideways with, you know, the Pence team.
	Back in 20. Oh, here we go.
	With that, because it was New Hampshire primary, actually, and they're doing the first thing there.
	It's like a crowd of 17,000 in a hockey arena.
	And he was running a little bit late, so they're like, hey, Don, can you go longer?
	I'm like, of course I can go longer.
	They're like, how much time do you have?
	I was like, just give me the five-minute note.
	And I... They come out.
	They give me the five minutes. Got the crowd going.
	It was awesome. Just incredible energy and whatever.
	And they're like, okay, five minutes.
	I'm going to start to wrap up and give my introduction of Mike Pence.
	And they started chanting 46 for me.
	That's right. And he's sitting there backstage next to one of my guys.
	He goes, well, that's awkward. It happened again, like, the following week in Colorado.
	And from that point on, there was a directive that I'm not allowed to open for him anymore.
	Which is sort of awkward when you're trying to win a campaign.
	I know, but I love when you say this. It's so brutal. You would think that the energy was, like, good.
	The guy's already going to get killed tonight.
	Wow, that guy. Excuse me, Tucker murdered Mike Pence three weeks ago.
	Come on. The Mike Pence theory of the case is a really questionable one when, as one of the most famous Republicans in the country, he barely got on this debate stage.
	Remember that? I mean, how he really, really struggled just to be able to get there.
	Well, it was sort of hard when you basically said, hey, I'm not there about Americans or whatever.
	I was like, you know, and honestly, I don't care if it's a slip of the tongue.
	I've made mistakes.
	I speak impromptu.
	Like, Come on.
	You're not ready for the big leagues if you're making that mistake.
	So when we get back, let me get your advice.
	Usually I just call you guys and ask for your advice, but now everybody gets to hear it.
	We get back, there's a government funding bill up, and some people are going to say, well, we just have to do a continuing resolution to continue funding things the way we've been doing them.
	And I remember back when we, the three of us, were very critical of the Mitch McConnell, Nancy Pelosi negotiated deal.
	I'd love your perspective on that.
	Listen, there's a couple things in there.
	We were talking about that with Marjorie earlier.
	It's like, if it's the kind of thing where aid is packaged for Hawaii as long as we give another $27 billion, $40 billion, $400 billion to Ukraine, then I'm against it.
	I do, though. As a business guy, as a finance guy, understand the implications of possible defaults if we don't.
	So I'm actually torn.
	We've had this conversation. I see both sides of that argument.
	And so it's not as simple.
	If I vote to continue the Jack Smith investigation, if I vote to continue funding these IRS agents...
	With a four-person majority in the House, and we don't basically have the Senate, and there's so many rhinos there, it doesn't matter anyway.
	Even if we had it, we wouldn't have it.
	I'm not sure we've ever had it in our lifetime.
	I'm pretty sure we've never had it.
	Without the White House, I'm not expecting us to do a lot of legislation, but I do think we have to start
	hanging firm on on the appropriation side. We have the power of the purse
	and we do have to start using it.
	I don't want to default on our existing debts, but there has to be stuff about certain things going
	forward that we're not going to keep blindly funding the bullshit.
	Blindly funding the next world war.
	Yes, exactly. That's a very different story.
	Whether it's World War III, whether it's the political persecution of your enemies or others, there's a lot of things I think we have to hold firm on, and I expect a lot of Republicans to do the same.
	Thanks for having me, brother. Got my man Byron coming on next.
	We got Byron, we got the whole Florida crew.
	Absolutely, the whole Florida crew.
	The Florida crew's in the house.
	The coolest man in Congress, Byron Donner.
	We'll see you later, Matthew.
	See you later, bud. Alright, so we were just talking possible gates for governor, so I don't want to overstep the possible Byron Donald.
	Matt, I may have to reverse my endorsement.
	I'm just listening to the people.
	He says that was a great six minutes.
	I'm going to record my face.
	What are you?
	You're like a Trump, right?
	I'm giving attention.
	I'm giving attention.
	It's gotten so bright in here, I can no longer see this screen.
	I'm trying to get people's questions.
	That means we're ad-libbing. Well, this is a live chat.
	We're basically ad-libbing anyway. Oh, that's all right.
	Look at the coordination here with the shades with the little nice red detail on the side.
	It's a little too hot.
	Like Byron Donald's in 95-degree heat and a blazer in time.
	He ain't cool in 95-degree heat.
	He just looks that way. I don't know if I can do it.
	He ain't cool. Yeah, it's impressive.
	So what do you see going on?
	Look, big night tonight.
	We'll see how this thing goes.
	At the end of the day, you know, the people on stage tonight, they got one opportunity, in my view, to try to pull something together.
	If they don't pull something together, this thing is going to be game, set, match.
	Isn't it true? Well, especially for the guys that have been leading, right?
	I think... Right. I mean, obviously, I guess the most pressure has to be on Ron Buchanan, because if he doesn't have a breakout performance, you know, he's been practicing this thing for two years now.
	You know, this run didn't just start when he announced.
	It was going on for months before that.
	You saw that with sort of the influencer attacks and the campaign that was going subversively against Trump and otherwise.
	Right. I mean, look. Does it need to be his night?
	Yes, it does.
	But in terms of leading, there's only one person leading.
	I mean, that's true. He's leading.
	What they're all trying to figure out is, can anybody coalesce enough to really get into the real game in this process?
	And I think wholeheartedly, if nobody really breaks out tonight, It's things kind of done.
	Like everybody was saying, oh, well, why is the president not debating?
	And I'm like, well, there's a reason heavyweights don't box middleweights.
	That's right. It doesn't work.
	As I said, the champ doesn't fight the undercard.
	If I'm one of them, you know, and look, I get it.
	Look, I'm a member of Congress.
	If I was in their shoes, I would be happy.
	I would be like, this is my opportunity.
	This is my moment. To shine, yeah.
	To shine and be able to do that without, you know, without President Trump being center stage.
	Now they got to show that they can do that.
	Period. Well, I think a lot of that would also be, you know, based on everything I've seen on Fox for the last two years, they'd do whatever they could to sort of rig this thing against Trump.
	When you're leading by 60 points, like, Trump didn't make billions and do the things that he did by being, like, walking into an obvious trap like that, right?
	It just seems like that would be stupid.
	Like, I don't think, and we've met some very dumb political people in our lives, I'm sure you have as well.
	Oh, yes. Oh, yes. But I can't imagine anyone of them would say, other than, again, some of the pundits I see on Fox saying it'd be great because it'd be great for their ratings, but not actually for Trump.
	It'd be really important for Trump to debate him.
	I don't see anyone that should say that.
	A lot of those people in politics who are not very smart, a lot of them still get contracts.
	Politics is a funny business.
	You lose and you still make money.
	But that being said, he could have done either thing.
	President Trump could have done whatever he wanted to tonight.
	It's not going to hurt him.
	Not really going to help him.
	It just is what it is.
	I'm interested to see what's going to happen here.
	Personally, what I think we're going to see...
	A little bit of detente. Everything's pretty much going to hold.
	Some people are going to rise. Some people are going to fall.
	But nobody's going to break out into 20.
	I don't think anybody's getting into the 20% range here tonight.
	I think the most pressure, quite frankly, is on Ron DeSantis.
	And I'm sure they'll take some shots at him to try to knock him down from his very, like, feeble, you know, second place position.
	Well, he was a shoo-in to guarantee the Republican nomination, you know, three months ago.
	And now it's... Well, that's what they said.
	Some people said. He's third to Vivek in a lot of these polls.
	So that's a little bit...
	No shoe in it. Are these like the Trump guys in front of the Never Back Down bus?
	Yeah, it's pretty amazing. Oh my gosh.
	I love politics, man.
	It's the fun part of it, man. It's great.
	Trump's not even here, and yet he still has more fans here than the people.
	Well, look, I think... Here's the deal.
	It's for Ron DeSantis. You're absolutely right, Kim.
	It's got to be his night.
	Does he have the charisma, the ability to make that happen?
	I don't think so. Could Vivek steal the show?
	It's very possible. I asked Matt about that, obviously.
	You're a Florida guy. You said the same thing.
	We had the same conversation earlier on the podcast.
	If you haven't seen it with Byron, you can go back.
	That was, what, three weeks ago right after?
	Yeah, it was really good. Turning Point.
	And you talked a little bit about that.
	You're sort of part of the reason the endorsement would trump it.
	That personal connection. There's a component that policy can be great, but those policies were also great for Americans.
	But that personal connection, he doesn't seem to have that ability to connect.
	And they keep putting him in these instances where they're trying desperately to make it happen, and he's failing time and time again that way.
	I just think you got to be who you are.
	And a lot of times we talked a little bit about consultants and it's the reason I don't listen to consultants.
	At this level, people got to see it.
	They got to feel it. They got to know it.
	You got to be who you are.
	If you're the guy that is reading every white paper and you know exactly what to do when to pull levers, be that guy.
	I'm fine with that.
	People just got to be comfortable with it.
	Own that space. And I think that if you had a lot of candidates start to follow that advice, you'd be, one, you'd get a lot better candidates to get elected, number one, because then everybody would be who they are as opposed to some caricature that the political creatures want to make you.
	Yeah. So, you're here tonight.
	You're here, obviously, to do...
	Spin room. Are they letting you in the spin room now or not?
	Yes, initially we were allowed.
	Then they were shutting us out entirely.
	Now I'm hearing maybe.
	No one knows. What do you think about being a congressman, a sitting congressman from probably one of the most Republican states in the union right now, and being possibly locked out of the Republican...
	So this is the foolishness that happens in politics.
	It sort of feels like what the Democrats are trying to do in Fulton County.
	This is the foolishness.
	This is the silliness of it.
	I mean, look, the other campaigns, I get why they're upset about it.
	If they were leading by huge numbers, they would want their surrogates in the spin room, too.
	So all this is, is people trying to jockey for position.
	I think with respect to Fox, I thought it was a bad call.
	They should have just said, that's not our business.
	You guys can fight out the politics.
	We're going to report the news.
	And without a doubt, Donald Trump is the center of our politics.
	I don't care how you feel about it.
	That's the way it is. And so, you know, you got to get past that and move on.
	Do I think we're going to be in the spin room tonight?
	Yeah, I think we're going to end up in there.
	We'll figure out a way. I think that's going to happen.
	You know what's unbelievable? Because they're trying to then, like, backtrack, and they're like, whoa, and they're trying to, you know, like, just parse it out and mince words and say, well, if you're Trump campaigned, then we're limiting your people and you can't come in.
	But then they try to say that, like, us, we don't work for the campaign.
	He and I, we're creators on Rumble.
	We have our shows. We're working as media here.
	So, oh, good luck to you on that.
	We're actually guests. You have media credentials.
	Yes, we're guests of Rumble.
	Oh, you're in. Oh, I gotta come see you.
	You gotta come in there. I gotta go talk to Rumble in the spin room, everybody.
	I wanna be there when they try to prevent a black congressman from speaking there because I have a feeling we can do some stuff with that.
	I just think that this stuff isn't thought through.
	People do this stuff in, like, offices and boardrooms and in meetings.
	But when it gets out here in the real world, when you have the grinder of politics where it's a people's business.
	Yeah. It's a people business.
	When you have that, a lot of these decisions that get made end up being real.
	But I think it proves all the point, which is like, well, the elites that run networks and the billionaire donor class that are in attendance, we're catering to them.
	Not to the people that actually, like, we got into this not for those guys.
	I promise you.
	It was much nicer and smoother sailing being real estate developers than this shit.
	But we're doing it for the people and it seems like this is not a decision of the people because the people are saying that Trump's up 60 points.
	Right. Well, they're supporting him by 62%.
	So you're saying we should have 60% of the spin room?
	I think so. I think you should.
	Exactly. But that's the case.
	I've been telling some of my friends, I saw a couple, you know, look, my buddy Chip Roy, Chip and I worked together on a lot of things in Congress.
	Just talked to him out here. And I was like, well, look, Chip, this thing will be over in about five to six months.
	And then we're going to be one party.
	We're going to get behind Donald Trump.
	We're going to get him re-elected to the White House.
	Period. That's the mission.
	Anything else that stops from that mission, in my mind, is a distraction at this point.
	I agree with that.
	But I mean, by that logic, continuing a lot of this primary for six more months.
	I mean, it's a money game.
	The problem is a waste of time and resources.
	We should be focusing on the general election.
	In the next six months. And again, I'm for a profit.
	About 50, 60 million.
	But look, and I say it so glibly, that sounds terrible.
	Couldn't that help you? You know, in your congressional race, couldn't that help another Byron Donalds in some other race?
	Yeah. You know, that's going to be outspent five, ten to one, that may have great ideas, maybe a fresh face for the Republican Party, maybe more America first.
	You know, so we're going to spend it to help Asa Hutchinson go from polling 0.02% to 0.021%.
	We're outspent by so much. He's looking at the economics of it, that it's a waste of resources and time.
	We are already at such a deficit to the Democrats.
	We've got to beat Joe Biden or whoever they put in. They used to talk about Sheldon Adelson all the time, but there was one Sheldon Adelson.
	They got Soros. They got this.
	They got Bloomberg. They got a hundred of them.
	They got all of Hollywood and their influence and their reach and their platforms.
	And then they have sort of the in-kind contribution from big tech and from mainstream media.
	It's not the same.
	They're good at the general election stuff.
	We're not on the same battlefield. That's the problem.
	So, yeah, I'm curious to see what you think about it.
	Look, I think that a lot of these, some of these donors are going to start pulling the money out, because, especially after tonight.
	After tonight, after the next debate, what's it, in another month or so, when there's no movement except one way, and that's around Donald Trump continuing to further that, I think a lot of the big money interests are going to say, you know what?
	It's time to close up shop.
	Because why continue to spend good money after bad?
	At the end of the day, they're business people.
	You just don't do that.
	And so that's what I think is going to occur.
	I think the field's going to dry up, probably through Christmas.
	And then we go from there, see what happens in Iowa.
	But I think Iowa's going to be big for President Trump.
	He's doing very well there.
	That's the big thing. Once that happens, New Hampshire's the following week, I mean, this thing goes fast.
	Well, Christy's just focusing on that to try to do a winning place.
	But here's my thing. What's Chris Christy focusing on?
	I don't know. The 10% in New Hampshire that he's not going to get anywhere else in the other 49 states?
	Can he get 10% in New Jersey?
	I don't think so. I don't think so.
	Wasn't he at like 9% when he left as governor after the Bridgegate thing?
	But this is the problem. Look, and I'm going to be blunt on this one.
	If you want to be a kamikaze pilot, fine, go do that.
	Go do that on CNN or MSNBC. Do it on Fox.
	Do it on Newsmax. Do it wherever you want to.
	But to try to do that in a debate stage when we all know...
	We all know that ain't going to happen.
	Period. Full stop.
	What do you think about the most recent indictments?
	That's something we actually haven't talked about yet.
	I'm curious to see your thoughts about that one.
	Oh, Fulton County? Fulton County.
	Oh, Fannie? Yeah. Listen, man.
	So, actually, the Rio Rico indictment for Fannie Willis is what's going on with Joe Biden and Hunter Biden right now.
	That's the real RICO investigation, because that is racketeering.
	The stuff we're putting together on Oversight, where now he's using other email accounts with other aliases.
	Robert L. Peters, he's emailing Hunter.
	They're on the plane going to all these countries.
	Hunter's not on Delta. He's on Air Force Two.
	All this stuff that was going on, that's the real racketeering case.
	I think with this last indictment, once again, it's showing people in middle America.
	They're not dyed in the wool Republicans.
	They're not heavy Democrats.
	They're normal people. They live here in Milwaukee.
	They live in Chicago. They live in Pittsburgh.
	They live in Philadelphia.
	Normal people are looking at this and saying, this is a lot of BS.
	If this guy is really like the bane of the Democrats' existence,
	that they're using the criminal justice system against them, you know what?
	Maybe that's the guy we need for president because he's the one who actually cleaned this place up
	and not continue business as usual, which is making it hard for everybody.
	What's the Rich Man North of Richmond song, the Oliver, that song?
	That's indicative of what a lot of people are feeling.
	And if you see the justice system going after a candidate for president
	who was a former president like this, over frankly, like at best semantics,
	come on.
	I think we can see through that.
	I mean, I hope they do. I mean, so you're on oversight with one of your colleagues earlier, you know, talking about this kind of stuff.
	You know, do you feel that you're getting real and timely responses?
	I mean, obviously, they're going to slow play you, right?
	This is the regime you're up against in a certain way.
	Can you deliver in the amount of time that you have left before sort of the next Congress?
	I think so. I think we can deliver.
	I think that... Because that's the recurring theme, and it's not a...
	Like, I say, hey, why hasn't XYZ happened?
	People want to see it done. They want to see it get done, but...
	You know, so do I. But there's still, unfortunately, there's a process, and they're going to play the game differently with us, and they'll drag everything out to the last minute.
	How do you get to that end result?
	Can you get to it in time to actually effectuate it before they, you know, I don't think they'll win Congress based on the disastrous performance that you're seeing from Democrats right now, but like...
	What do you think? I think we can get it done, actually.
	We've done more in this six, seven months than I thought we would actually get to.
	We've uncovered far more.
	And I think that where we are right now, we have some requests for information out there.
	If NARA doesn't comply, we're going to go and subpoena that information.
	We think that's going to help us continue that.
	And then the last line is figuring out where the money was being spent.
	But I think at this point, what we have today, and I think these emails are going to prove it, we have Robert L. Peters, a.k.a.
	Joe Biden, knowingly allowing his son to violate the Foreign Agents Registration Act.
	Like, I just think about it. If your dad knowingly had you violating Farrah, there wouldn't be no hush-hush investigation from DOJ and FBI. I agree.
	It wouldn't be happening. And my father would place me there himself.
	You wish you would be in GetMo.
	You would get better treatment.
	Oh, no. You would be in Sing Sing.
	That's where they will put you.
	And so the reality is we've got a lot of information.
	I think we have all the time we need to do it.
	And so now it's going to our colleagues who haven't really been a part of these investigations to show them the level of detail so that even the ones who might be in these quote-unquote Biden districts They can see, like, look, guys, this is racketeering.
	It's public corruption. We have a constitutional responsibility to go to an impeachment inquiry and then even impeachment.
	And I think we can get there. Yeah, I think so.
	We appreciate everything that you do, man.
	It's great. I look forward to seeing you in the spin room.
	We'll have some fun blowing up some heads.
	Listen, I'm ready for the spin room.
	It's going to be good tonight. Let's do it.
	All right, see you guys. I'm going to be a lot cooler, though.
	I'm going to cool down. You're smarter than—like, this is getting ridiculous.
	It is literally, well, what do you want?
	It's 95 degrees out here.
	I'm on like hour two.
	I'm not putting an ice pack on.
	That's a meme that will come back to haunt me later on.
	Someone will do this. We're good.
	I'll figure it out. I'll just die.
	But if I pass out of dehydration, I'm blaming Kimberly.
	What do you think, Kim? Yeah, I'll bring you back to life, baby.
	I'm good at that. Hello, boys and girls. Hi.
	Hello. Hello, Alexandra.
	Next guest, the great Nigel Farage.
	Out of the UK. He doesn't look sweaty at all.
	How are you not sweaty?
	Well, the weather's so warm on our island, we're used to it.
	If you believe that, you believe anything.
	Oh, my God. How are you, my friend?
	We're doing well, yeah. I mean, it's really interesting being here.
	I'm not sure most people have really woken up to just what a pivotal moment this is coming up over the next year or so.
	Yeah, I fear that myself.
	I talk about it every day, and the people watching and following...
	They get it, but so much of the information we're seeing is manipulated by the media, tech and otherwise that, you know, the people who don't pay much attention to this stuff, they may actually take it for face value.
	I see Joe Biden talking about the Bidenomics tour.
	I'm saying, trying to figure out, like, name a place that we're better off now than we were.
	But most people live their lives.
	You know, most people have a mortgage.
	A marriage, a dog, 2.3 kids, and they're busy just keeping their head above water, you know, with the cost of living, inflation, everything else.
	The average Joe probably spends about six or seven minutes a day consuming media, consuming news.
	So we need to think about that on our side of the debate.
	How do we find messaging?
	That actually gets through to ordinary folk about the peril that we face.
	And frankly, I mean, what's happened in the last two days in South Africa is scary.
	Oh, yeah. Okay, talk about that.
	So for those of you who may not know, Nigel Farage, leader of the Brexit movement, perhaps the original populace, maybe got there before Trump.
	So this is a guy that understands, you know, our movement.
	He understands America first in America as he did, you know, sort of, let's call it, you know, Britain first in the UK. Absolutely.
	But yeah, we haven't spoken about South Africa because this stuff is going on around the world.
	Our enemies are gathering. China is on a massive diplomatic mission, right?
	They virtually own Russia.
	They've now got India on their side.
	They've got South Africa on their side.
	It's a movement called the BRICS movement.
	They're inviting 40 other countries to join.
	And these people do not share our values.
	At all. In any way at all.
	We actually believe...
	In democracy, in free speech, in the rule of law, that's what our civilisation, and actually, dare I say it, Christian values, which underpin everything about our society, and that's all under threat.
	And what is extraordinary is that Biden, the left, they now so hate us They want us cancelled.
	They want us shut down.
	They want your father put in prison.
	Yeah, well, they shut down... You know?
	You're a member of European Parliament.
	They shut down his bank accounts a few weeks ago.
	You may have seen the podcast I did with Nigel then about it.
	But, yeah, they're not hiding it anymore.
	They're disdained for anyone who doesn't comply, who isn't totally complicit to their every whim, every desire.
	No matter how insane, you know, you must believe that there's 9,764 genders, or hey, you don't get a bank account anymore.
	The science may have changed rapidly.
	And global warming.
	But here's the thing, you see, the old left, We could have sat here 30 years ago and disagreed with the old left.
	We could have disagreed on tax and spend.
	We could have disagreed on many things.
	But you know what? The old left were patriotic.
	The old left believed in my country.
	They believed in America. The new left don't believe in nation-state.
	The new left believe in a global order, but they also believe they have a moral superiority over us.
	They believe they're better people than we are, and therefore, for them, there is nothing they will do Or not do to achieve their goals.
	That includes cheating.
	It includes lying. And it includes, in America, politicizing the judiciary.
	So the real battle, and this is the message somehow we've got to get through to folk, is that everything we've stood for for a couple of thousand years as we built Western civilization is under threat.
	Under attack. It's big.
	This is really, really big.
	And if America falls, you know what?
	We all fall. You know, and that's the thing.
	I mean, watching... Watching what's going on over the last few years between COVID lockdowns and everything like that, right?
	All the countries that I said, hey, they're a lot like us, they're a lot, you know, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, UK, like...
	Well, it's the English-speaking countries.
	They weren't. They were so quick to give up on anything.
	And why is it the English-speaking countries?
	I'll tell you why. It's West Coast Tech.
	West Coast tech has so taken over our lives, the Zuckerbergs of this world will not allow any free speech.
	That's actually a really good point because it's easier to manipulate the algorithm if you understand everything that's saying.
	Honey, they're in the speech business so they can control speech.
	I don't think Americans understand just how dominant culturally they've become in the world.
	Hey, hey, we produce some good music and some good actors and whatever it may be.
	But actually, American culture across the English-speaking world now dominates what teenagers see, what they think, what they believe.
	You guys have been lagging since, like, the Beatles.
	Well... We do send some things to you.
	I mean, we did export Brexit, which helped your father get elected.
	And we've given you Prince Harry.
	How about this?
	I'll give you back Prince Harry.
	Even the people in Hollywood are like...
	That was a payback, because we gave him Meghan Markle.
	What happened to him?
	Because, seriously, if you would have asked me ten years ago, I was like...
	You know, sure, he's made some stupid mistakes, but it's a guy you'd actually want to have a beer with.
	This was. And then, like, full cuck.
	I can't figure it out.
	This guy made the royal family cool.
	It was cool. Suddenly people loved Harry.
	He was the most popular...
	He was the cool brother in a way.
	It was like... I'd never seen a member of the royal family more popular.
	He was Jack Ballad. He went to Afghanistan.
	He fought in the front lines.
	He really, genuinely did.
	There's no question about it.
	He was revered in the army, loved in the country.
	So he had a few girlfriends.
	And a lot of humanitarian work.
	He liked a beer. He made the odd mistake.
	People loved him for it. Suddenly, he meets Meghan...
	Decides that growing up in a palace has been terrible.
	He disavowed everything that made him cool.
	I know his mom died and that was horrible when he had to go through.
	But you know what? That happens to so many people anyway, doesn't it?
	Lots of people have bad...
	Bad stuff happens in life.
	But he succeeded even after that.
	I mean, he was young when that happened.
	You lost your mom, Kim, when you were like 11?
	You know, it's brutal.
	But he actually had a lot of national success before that, and then reversed it all.
	She's ruined him, and I'll make a prediction here.
	She'll dump him. She will dump him when she's used him to get all she can.
	And let's face it, she wants a political career.
	She wants to be in Congress or in the Senate for the Democrats.
	That's what she's aiming at.
	Once she's there, she'll get rid of Harry, and he'll come back.
	I wonder, because it feels like the podcast gets cancelled.
	Did she or they, did they overplay their hand a little bit?
	Because it's like, it almost seems like she's turning off even their base, which is like the radical left.
	Even they've had enough. I mean, they were paid fortunes and delivered absolutely nothing.
	But the Democrats will still have it.
	That's a solid point.
	Yeah, it's a solid point. His whole problem is psychological.
	It's a whole thing because he sees and she goes out of her way as this actress that she pretends to be but to try to make him feel like she is his mother and she is being persecuted and she was at risk and he couldn't save his mom so now he's trying to stick up and it's like reliving that all over again.
	That's what's happening psychologically. Yeah, and her claims are...
	So when the wedding took place...
	You know, when they got married at Windsor, I promise you, the whole country gave them and her the biggest honeymoon you could ever see.
	Beyond. The idea there was any racism or prejudice.
	All lies. It's frankly for the birds.
	It's absolute nonsense.
	It's very sad what's happened.
	But hey, he's yours now.
	But according to your prediction, not for long.
	Well, not for long. What's the timing on this thing?
	Oh, gosh. Don't rush to the bookmakers, because I may not get this right.
	Within five years. It'll be over within five years.
	Oh. No question. But hopefully, within five years, we'll have your old man back in the White House, we'll have a bit of common sense back in Western politics, we'll take on this woke corporate culture that's run through everything, and we'll send a message to China.
	And this is the really big story that we're not talking about.
	China now has military ambitions.
	If we don't stop China, we've got a World War III coming.
	Oh, yeah. It's that serious.
	I agree. Well, I mean, they've already started it economically.
	I think, you know, you could make the case for everything that happened with COVID is 100% blamed on them.
	And, you know, you're not allowed to say this because it's conspiratorial, but like, hey, who benefits from a disease that wipes out the elderly that can't take care of themselves, that a population of 1.7 billion people?
	Have you seen? Sort of, you know, if you could take out Trump and the US economy at the same time, like, you know.
	But you've seen the COVID news in America.
	It doesn't seem crazy. Yeah, we have. We were talking about that earlier.
	They're going to do it all over again.
	I'm actually shocked that you're not wearing your mask right now because they're going to...
	Mask mandates, Atlanta University, Hollywood Studios and Biden's administration telling all of you to get three jabs this autumn.
	It's unbelievable. Do you know what?
	If ever there was a moment to tell them to go to hell, it's now.
	It is now. It's why all the do not comply stuff.
	We were talking about do not comply earlier, and we had Marjorie Taylor Greene on a couple of calls.
	I was like, I don't even want to get to the point where we have to make a decision about complying or not.
	Our leaders, if we control the House, our leaders better not even let it get there.
	They better shut that shit down right away.
	I hope you're alright, but I'm not sure they will.
	I'm not sure they're going to be able to.
	We know better now. We know what they did with it.
	We understand how they manipulated us now in hindsight, certainly.
	And frankly, many of us figured this out long ago and frankly while it was going on.
	But we can't allow that crap to happen again.
	If they try and impose anything like that again on us, and the warning signs are there in the last three or four days, no time to stand and fight.
	They're going to do it again, 2.0.
	I mean, that's what they're going to do. They're going to try.
	They'll come up with a weird, scary name.
	But I think, Kimberly, despite what we said earlier about ordinary folk being busy with their lives, I think any attempt to do this again will be met with a massive rejection.
	I hope so. I pray so.
	I agree. I agree.
	So what do you expect out of tonight?
	Well, I think we've got two things going on today.
	We've got the Tucker. I'm going to be live streaming Tucker while I'm trying to pay attention to both because I'm a little bit...
	I mean, for me, it's like being back on the trading floor with two phones.
	Obviously, we've got what your father says, Tucker, which will be interesting.
	But I tell you what...
	I think it's a mistake to write off what's going to happen tonight.
	Yes, we know the Chris Christie's of this world are there for negative reasons.
	I personally have thought for six months that Vivek Ramaswamy has got some very interesting fresh ideas that could benefit the conservative movement going on for the next 10 or 20 years.
	What I don't know is can he perform under pressure?
	Oh, by the way, I think, I actually agree with you.
	I think he can.
	He seems like actually the best sort of media person of the people on stage.
	Look at the personalities up there.
	And I like all of the things that he's actually saying and the ideas.
	My question is, where was he in 2020?
	Where was he in 2018?
	2016? I'm not sure. Again, don't know where...
	Is he consistent on the issues?
	But I just don't know. Is it a business boy?
	Is it, you know, he's a good businessman.
	He's trying to do the stuff with Woke Inc.
	But that doesn't mean you actually believe in those things.
	It means you saw an opportunity to make money.
	No, no, no. Has your father made money out of politics?
	No, we've lost hundreds of millions of dollars.
	We've lost... Okay, Nigel!
	We're being indicted! Well, there you are!
	You want to put him in jail for 750 years?
	Relax. You know what our legal bills have been over the last years, whether it's Trump or him personally?
	Literally hundreds. We're the only people that ever go to Washington, D.C. to come out less rich.
	Losing money. There is no way...
	But we haven't made money on this deal by any means.
	Exactly my point. Vivek is not doing this to make money.
	Well, I wasn't even saying it.
	I'm just saying, is he an actual believer in the things?
	I just don't know that yet. Meaning, did he come up with this great platform?
	We don't know the answer. I haven't done enough research on it.
	I didn't hear him in 2016.
	No, no, I agree with you.
	Hence why tonight's so important.
	Tonight we get to see him actually in public, being challenged by other people.
	They will ask him these questions, the same reservations you've got.
	They'll ask him about his relationship with Big Pharma.
	They'll ask him all these questions.
	We're about to find out, in a few hours' time, Whether he's really up to it.
	So I think for that alone, this is of value.
	I think so. Yeah, people are saying...
	And it's a big night for Ron DeSantis because he's got to do something or he's just, you know, dead on arrival.
	I don't think that's going to happen. I can't see that happening.
	I can't see it happening either.
	But I will say, the previous guest that sat in this chair...
	Brian, boy, is he good.
	Oh, Donald's great. Is he good?
	He's very good. He's great. He's been a supporter.
	And likewise, we did a lot for Byron.
	I think, you know, it's a future start.
	I mean, I think Gates, you know, he'll drive the people in Florida absolutely, meaning the media class.
	I said, I want Gates to run for governor.
	Yeah. No, Gates we love.
	I just want to see the explosion from the haters.
	But Byron is relatively new on me, and I have to say, just sitting here watching him with you guys a moment ago, he's impressive.
	Actual financial background, business guy, that then chose to do this, not...
	He came up in the political class.
	I love that for us, because we need so much more of that, and we've seen both what someone with that kind of real-world experience can do versus the...
	You're on a committee making trillion dollar financial decisions because you have tenure.
	You've been there longer, not because you know anything.
	And we have to get out of that mindset in Washington, D.C. He's good.
	He's good. He's good. But, you know, It's not the biggest event tonight that's ever been.
	No, I agree. Well, because there's not many personalities.
	We're sitting here. We're here trying to do a job.
	I know. Everyone's here.
	But I want to watch the other show. I know.
	Well, we're going to watch both, aren't we?
	We'll have to watch both. We'll have to watch both.
	Excellent. And tell where everybody can see you because you have a lot of great stuff going on in your show.
	Yeah. Well, I mean, we had a situation with British media where all we had giving us news and politics was the BBC, you know, state-funded BBC, Sky News and ITV. And it was all one way.
	An absolute consensus view on all the woke issues and all the climate issues.
	Even Sky, right? Yeah. Oh, Sky were the worst.
	Once Comcast bought Sky.
	When Murdoch owned Sky, it wasn't too bad.
	Comcast bought Sky years ago.
	It became terrible. So we've come along with a challenger.
	And do you know what? We're doing okay.
	And by some miracle, I've managed to win TV presenter of the year.
	So we're not doing badly.
	We're not doing badly.
	Oh, so was I. I'm like, wait a minute.
	How does that happen? Is this, like, the exception that proves the rule?
	Well, so we're making progress.
	It's good, and we've got good conservative arguments being made, and we're covering a lot of America.
	A lot of America, because, and I repeat the point, if America falls, we all fall.
	This is the real battleground for the future of liberty, democracy, and the rule of law.
	Well, we appreciate it, Nigel.
	We appreciate everything that you do for that.
	Look forward to hearing all your commentary tonight after we see what's going on.
	And just thanks for everything that you guys do.
	Always a pleasure to see you back here.
	What a great friend you are. Awesome.
	Well, guys, I think...
	We're probably pushing our time, I think.
	It's 4 o'clock, honey. But I can't tell because the iPad is giving me a temperature warning.
	I can't quite touch it.
	It's hot. You don't seem hot at all.
	I know, baby. You've done very well.
	Because I keep my cool under pressure despite being out here in 95 degree heat.
	But I want to thank you guys for checking it out.
	Kim and I are going to do our shows tomorrow, 4 and 6 East Coast, respectively.
	I'm just going to do an AMA. So I'm going to do an Ask Me Anything About Tucker, that interview, as well as the debate stuff.
	So if you guys want to tune in, check that out.
	Kim, do you have guests? Yes. Yes, I do have guests tomorrow.
	I have D.C. Drano.
	I have Mike Davis to go over everything.
	We're going to lead you into all the legal aspects of what's going to go down in Fulton County and Georgia tomorrow with President Trump, 45th president, your father turning himself in to that despicable situation and indictment down there.
	Yeah, and I'm just going to do a two-hour AMA slash rant.
	So for those of you who have questions, check it out there.
	Tomorrow at 6 on Rumble.
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	I don't know. We'll figure it out. Maybe we'll go live again later.
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