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TRUMP DOMINATING, DeSantis Using Liz Cheney Talking Points, plus Biden Bribery Scandal and Border Disaster - Tom Homan Live | TRIGGERED Ep.55

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	you good evening guys welcome to another awesome episode of
	trigger Tonight, we're joined by a great American, Tom Homan.
	Tom is a true patriot.
	He's the former acting director of ICE, and he worked to enforce America's immigration laws for decades, including under the Trump administration, back when we actually had a border.
	He's watching the Biden border disaster wreak havoc on our country and will lay out the solutions to fix all of it.
	Amazingly enough, folks, as we saw under Trump, it can be done contrary to the testimony and such of morons like Secretary Mayorkas.
	This is a timely interview considering the trafficking crisis at our border is now worse than ever before.
	America is suffering from out-of-control border chaos that's honestly affecting pretty much every state in the union, literally because of the sex trafficking crisis, the human trafficking crisis, the drug trafficking crisis, and fentanyl. Every state is now a border state, not just those that are physically and in close proximity to the border itself.
	So be sure to guys like, subscribe, share these episodes because you know you're not going to see it anywhere else and we ain't getting any help getting the news out there from big tech.
	Frankly, mainstream media, big tech, big social, honestly, they're all working against us on a daily basis.
	And so we'll get to Tom coming up here very shortly, but we have a lot to talk about.
	A lot of news to get into, including...
	How my father's absolutely crushing the 2024 opponents.
	So much so that he put out an amazing truth today on Truth Social talking about how he looks forward to watching debates so that he can choose who maybe should be his vice president.
	You gotta love the balls, folks.
	The growing evidence of the Biden corruption is also continually getting worse and worse.
	It's just piling on. And Devin Archer today, Hunter Biden's business partner, his former BFF, all in the news.
	And of course you have, again, the border crisis.
	So first, here are some facts about the border.
	Over 6.6 million illegal immigrants have been recorded crossing our border since the start of Joe Biden's presidency.
	Just for perspective, folks, in a country of about 350 million people, that's like 2% just in Joe Biden's short stint in office.
	2% of those people just coming over the border.
	Taking your benefits, stressing our systems.
	But hey, no one cares, apparently.
	Those are just the illegal immigrants we actually know about, folks.
	Imagine how many are there that we can't count.
	Even the great men and women at Border Patrol, the guys on the ground doing the work, the door kickers, the patriots down there, they can't keep track of all of it, obviously.
	How could they, especially when they're handcuffed and hamstrung by the Biden administration?
	There are millions of other illegal immigrants that evade detection daily.
	Biden is serving as the maitre d' and helpfully letting the illegals enter the country.
	And he's not turning them back, folks.
	In 2008, 22 alone, 2 million illegal immigrants were encountered on the border and released into the country.
	Not back into Mexico, not like the Remain in Mexico policies like you had under Trump.
	Just, hey, we'll catch you, release you into the country, and maybe we'll see you in a couple years.
	There are no plans to deport them.
	Watch Secretary Mayorkas talk about it in his own words.
	under your watch.
	So not including the Title 42 expulsions, not including violent criminals, of those two million-plus that you've encountered and released, how many have you told to go home?
	Congressman, individuals who are released are placed in immigration enforcement proceedings under the law where they can make their claim for relief.
	It's not satisfied. They are subject to removal from the United States.
	Right. Subject to removal sounds very different than actually removed.
	So I'm not interested in the process.
	I'm not interested in what people are subject to.
	Two million people encountered and released.
	Not the expulsions under title 42, not the criminals.
	How many of those people have you deported?
	So, Congressman, a few points.
	Number one... Just how many of the people?
	I just want to know how many. Just a number.
	Congressman, we are dealing...
	With a completely broken immigration system.
	Guys, Mayorkas has no answer because he isn't planning to deport any of them.
	That's not in the Democrats' interest.
	They want people and they want people dependent on big governments and government programs, your taxpayer dollars.
	So that they vote Democrat in perpetuity.
	That's all this is, folks.
	In fact, even when illegal immigrants go through the system and are given an order of removal by a judge, nothing happens.
	There are currently 1.2 million illegal immigrants in the country with a final order of removal.
	And guess what, folks?
	Shockingly, shockingly, there's no plan to actually deport them.
	The issue with Biden's border is twofold.
	Not only is it easy to enter the country, but once you come here, you have no shot of being deported.
	Imagine who would take advantage of that.
	We talked about millions of illegals coming across the border that we can't control.
	What about the terrorists?
	What about the really bad people?
	What about the CCP operatives?
	The list goes on and on.
	Border Patrol...
	We'll let you loose.
	They might sign you up for a Biden program like case management, like the case management pilot program, who runs the Biden illegal immigrant group, a group called Church World Service.
	Sounds innocent, folks. Sounds like good God-fearing people.
	But this group has come out in support of abolishing ICE. So ICE is working with an Abolish ICE group.
	Folks, the fox is guarding the hen house.
	Now, you remember the Trump administration.
	Fondly, I'm sure.
	The border was secure. ICE was so effective at deporting illegal immigrants that angry leftists created the Abolish ICE movement because they understood what it would do for their prospects, whether it was voting or otherwise.
	And get this. Before Ron DeSantis started running for president, he said the truth, that Trump's borders policy worked.
	Check it out in his own words.
	It obviously is a disastrous change in policy, Judge.
	If you look, Donald Trump had obviously the wall, which we all supported, but also safe third-party agreements, as well as remain in Mexico.
	And guess what happened? The border was under control.
	And I'll tell you, the Trump border policies worked very well.
	Biden is undoing that right now.
	President Trump instituted a number of policies and it dramatically reduced the number of people that were coming across the border illegally.
	This is a Biden-caused disaster.
	And because he rejected the policies that President Trump had put in that were working.
	And Trump had it right at the border.
	But of course now, DeFlipFlop is lying and saying the opposite.
	He said that my father didn't secure the border, which is obviously ridiculous, and he's probably doing whatever his consultants, you know, Karl Rove and Paul Ryan and the Bushes are telling him, despite what he said, in his own words, not that long ago.
	Seems like and sounds like a lot of the other issues he's flip-flopped on, whether it's Ukraine or otherwise.
	This is purely, folks, out of desperation, right?
	DeSantis is now polling in the teens in the national polling average.
	He's actually showing up in third place in some recent polls.
	It's rough out there for Ron DeSantis because he tried going Trump-lite, but his donors didn't want that, so he had the flip-flop.
	And then people saw him out there, and they realized it's all a fraud.
	Today, in the New York Times, the front page featured a poll showing Trump leading DeSantis by a whopping 37%.
	It's complete and total domination.
	So, naturally, DeSantis and his allies are starting to sound a lot like Liz Cheney.
	And lying pencil-neck Adam Schiff and quoting the January 6th committee, the unselect committee of frauds that we all watched in ridicule, laughing at the idiocy, you know, Adam Kinzinger and such, they're quoting it.
	This campaign is quoting it like it's the gospel.
	This is sick, but at least we're learning about DeSantis' true colors early on rather than when it's too late.
	He'll do what the creatures of the swamp and the establishment and the uni party want.
	That's pretty clear. DeSantis' best ally in this primary, frankly, is Merrick Garland.
	DOJ election interference is literally at this point, in my opinion, his only hope to win.
	He's in cahoots with the liberals.
	He's echoing the viewpoints of the January 6th committee.
	He's flip-flopped on every major decision that Republicans are into in the last few months.
	Who is Ron DeSantis?
	Does he even know?
	Or is it a product of, again, the establishment consultants as well as some polling in the D.C. biosphere?
	These are liberals who compared my father to Bin Laden saying that January 6th was 9-11 and worse.
	You saw this elsewhere, but check out this clip alone just to refresh your memory a little bit.
	Maybe you'll get people. The idea of pardoning, like we're going to move on.
	Imagine that sentiment after 9-11.
	Oh, we'll just let bin Laden. Let's just move on as a nation.
	We had a terrorist attack on our Capitol.
	January 6th was an act of domestic terrorism.
	That's what FBI Director Christopher Wray testified the attack was.
	And everybody involved in that attack has to be held accountable.
	We don't move on. We hold people accountable so it never happens again.
	That's an important point. Democrat, Republican, it doesn't matter.
	If you're a president, you attempt a coup, you incite a terrorist attack, you must go to prison.
	And I think you should spend your last days in prison, not to be cruel, but as a message to anyone, even a Democratic demagogue in the future.
	Guys, I'm gonna rip my cornea out, like, rolling my eyes into the back of my head.
	These people are sick.
	They have problems.
	Meanwhile, there are actual real crimes going on in D.C. that are slowly, but hopefully surely, being uncovered.
	Last week, when Hunter Biden's sham, uh, plush little plea deal fell apart, his attorney revealed in court Documents that Hunter got paid over $600,000 from Chinese Communist Party-backed company.
	That doesn't include the billion-dollar investment from other CCP things into Hunter's fund, because, you know, again, we've discussed this.
	The Chinese, they invest with crackheads very often.
	This is what they do. No, folks, they're not dumb like us.
	Investifying and diversifying with crackheads is not part of their ESG programming, so that didn't actually happen, right?
	This exposed Hunter Biden for lying during the 2020 election.
	Sorry, Joe Biden.
	I'm mixing up my corrupt Bidens tonight.
	When he claimed that no one from his family got money from China.
	And today, behind closed doors, Hunter Biden's former business partner and BFF, Devin Archer, gave testimony to the House Oversight Committee.
	It had looked like the DOJ was going to pull another stunt.
	You know, the election interference, like when they go after Trump when he starts doing well, or they try to indict Trump the day something really shady happens with the Bidens where there's actual evidence of money transfer between God knows which one of our foreign enemies.
	But they pulled another stunt threatening to jail Devin Archer before the testimony.
	But then they backed off, miraculously.
	Guys, if we're not living in a banana republic, I don't know where we're living at this point.
	There's a reason Biden's DOJ is so scared.
	Devon told House Oversight today that Joe was intimately involved with Hunter's foreign business dealings.
	This should come as a shock to absolutely no one, but maybe, now that there's eyewitness testimony from people who were actually there, maybe, just maybe, our mainstream media will even remotely, from a distance, acknowledge it. Biden angrily denied having anything to do with Hunter's business while on the campaign trail.
	Check it out. You'll remember this one.
	How many times have you ever spoken to your son about his overseas business dealings?
	I've never spoken to my son about his overseas business dealings.
	And so... That, too, folks, was a lie.
	Devin Archer testified that Hunter Biden put then-Vice President Joe Biden on speakerphone 20-plus times to sell the brand in business discussions.
	According to Archer, Joe Biden was, quote, the brand, and that Burisma would have gone out of business if the brand had not been attached to it.
	The House Oversight Committee said that, quote, because of the Biden's involvement, people would have been intimidated to mess with Burisma legally.
	Shockingly. Shock.
	I'm shocked, folks. We haven't all been talking about this now for months, but maybe they'll finally do something about it.
	It sounds like the Bidens are running some sort of mafia-like business schemes, right?
	Racketeering and such.
	But Democrats are busy spinning it.
	First, they told us that Joe never spoke to Hunter's foreign business partners.
	Now, they're switching the story.
	They spoke, but it was about the weather, right?
	Remember, it was like Hillary's emails, like, I don't know, it was like sharing recipes and, like, yoga stuff.
	I mean, the shamelessness of the Democrats and what they're allowed to get away with is just spectacular.
	Just listen. Democratic Congressman Dan Goldman trying to spin his way out of this one.
	Check it out. You're saying that the speakerphone conversations...
	They don't seem concerning to you because there is no specifics about business, and it just seemed like they were talking about— It was clear that it was part of the daily conversations that Hunter Biden had with his father, and it was—and it sounded like most of the time, Now President Biden didn't even know who the people he was at dinner.
	He was just asked to say hello.
	And he would, you know, talk about the way he described it several times.
	They asked over and over and over.
	He described what the weather was, how, what's going on on your end.
	The witness was very...
	Very consistent that none of those conversations ever had to do with any business dealings or transactions.
	They were purely what he called casual conversations.
	Yeah, I'm following along on the live chat.
	Warrior Girl has it right.
	They're D.C. gangsters, right?
	The whole thing. It's pretty ironic, isn't it?
	Like the Democrats, they love to talk about the rule of law.
	Remember them preaching democracy and yada, yada, yada.
	And yet... When it actually comes to Democrats, it's different.
	It's a little bit different.
	If we had a rule of law, then we would enforce our immigration laws and deport illegal immigrants.
	If we had rule of law, then Hunter Biden, and most likely his father, Joe, would be in prison.
	And yet, we literally have half of the...
	Half of the D.C. establishment, probably another quarter of the Republicans, all of the mainstream media, the vast majority if not all of big tech, just running cover for them like there's nothing to see here.
	Again, what would happen if it was Trump?
	Guys, it'd be the only thing we'd hear about, and rightfully so.
	The Democrats' version of law enforcement is one in which laws are twisted to punish their political enemies, and laws are ignored to favor their allies, their donors, and people who believe what they believe.
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	And with that, I want to bring in Tom Homan, former acting director of ICE, great American.
	I noticed one of the other comments in there was that, One of the people in the live chat, Tom, was saying, hey, Tom could have just retired after ICE, but you continue to stay in the fight.
	And that's absolutely amazing.
	I think that's so critical.
	Someone that has your experience on the ground will continue, because if not, this insanity will be left unchecked.
	You're right. That's a funny story.
	The day I retired is when I got contacted by the White House.
	They wanted me to stay and be the director, which is a three-step promotion, greatest honor of my life.
	And so I retired a second time, but I'm going back the third time
	when President Trump takes the White House back in January, 2025.
	Well, I love that.
	I think that's so important.
	Again, just people who are mostly, honestly, so much of it's just being unafraid
	of the media attacks, right?
	I mean, it's not even a Republican idea of the border versus the Democrat.
	It's a Republican idea versus a Democrat idea that's lied about, inflated,
	acted on by a mainstream media acting as their marketing department.
	I mean, people don't even really know or can't even fathom what's going on.
	You saw the visceral reaction.
	To, you know, the movie, The Sound of Freedom.
	I'm sure you have hundreds, if not thousands, of stories like that about children and the sex trafficking.
	And then you add in the fentanyl crisis.
	I mean, you know, can you talk about just how severe this is so that, you know, even those people who get it, they would like to close it down, but perhaps don't realize how bad it is.
	What's it like down there right now?
	Well, to level set, they've got to understand, under President Trump, now I've worked at the border since 1984.
	I started in the border patrol.
	I wore that uniform. I climbed the ladder, hit every rung, became the first director of ICE. That actually came up to the ranks.
	So the 20,000 men and women that worked for me, I didn't ask them to do anything that I can do myself throughout my career.
	But under President Trump, we had unprecedented success.
	People need to understand, illegal immigration was at a 45-year-old law.
	Illegal immigration was down 83%.
	Now, picture that. The most secure border in my lifetime.
	The data proves that you can hate Trump, you can hate Homan.
	Go to CBP.gov, look at the data.
	It proves that we had the most secure border in my lifetime under President Trump.
	President Biden came in.
	And unsecured a border.
	On purpose. I've said I've worked for six presidents.
	I say this all the time.
	I've worked for six presidents for Donald Reagan.
	I've respected every president I've worked for.
	Because every president, they understood that secure border is important because you can't have national security if you don't have a secure border.
	Even Clinton and Obama took some steps.
	No one did more than President Trump.
	Unprecedented success. But Joe Biden is the first president in the history of this nation.
	Who came in office and unsecured a border on purpose.
	And the result is a record number of migrants have died on U.S. soil under Joe Biden's watch.
	A historic number, 1,700 more.
	1,700 migrants died on U.S. soil.
	Over 100,000 Americans have died from fentanyl across that border because the border was so overwhelmed with the humanitarian issue, smuggers got free reign coming across the border.
	Record number of women and children in sex trafficking in the United States.
	A record number of known suspected terrorists crossing the border.
	1.7 million Godwigs, right?
	Border Patrol has arrested people from 170 different countries.
	Some of these countries are sponsors of terror.
	They've arrested 267 people off the terrorist watch list.
	If you don't think a single one of the 1.7 million gotaways didn't come from a country-sponsored terror, then you're an idiot.
	This is the biggest national security theory in the history of this nation, and Joe Biden's orchestrating the entire thing.
	Yeah, well, talk about that a little bit, because, I mean, you know, it's...
	Obviously, the crisis is worse now.
	There's more incentives. The Democrat Party's lost their minds.
	Everything's for free. So, you know, I guess you're right.
	Even having worked for six presidents from Ronald Reagan all the way up, I mean, I imagine what Trump showed that was even under more dire circumstances, it could still be done.
	But if the millions that are getting across the border are there, I mean, if they have that many that they caught from a terror watch list...
	I mean, those people are probably better funded than just an average immigrant trying to come through, whether it's well-intentioned or whether it's for the freebies.
	I can imagine that there's thousands of terrorists that could get in, many who are terrorists that may not yet be on a watch list because they've been radicalized or otherwise.
	How bad is that threat?
	Because you just think of the number of people Just involved in 9-11 and the numbers coming across the border, it's like you could have hundreds of those, theoretically, based on the number and the volume and the ease of those people getting into the border.
	Look, I think it's the biggest issue with the border is the national security aspect, because, like I said, border shows wrestle over 200 on terrorist watch clothes.
	So they're obviously morons because terrorists are trained not to get caught.
	They're trained to how they pay law enforcement.
	But the 1.7 million gotaways, that scares the hell out of me because people need to understand.
	Well, Homan, how do you know that?
	Well, it's simple.
	Because after 9-11, we created all these databases.
	We created the terror watch list.
	We created no-fly list.
	We created the visa security program that I used to run as vice director that has prevented thousands of people from getting a visa to come to the United States because we found derogatory information in their background, in their vetting.
	But what terrorist in the world today is going to apply for a visa or try to get a plane ticket, and they know they're going to be vetted through numerous databases, including DOD intelligence databases, where you can simply get to Mexico, pay the cartels a little bit extra money to get away.
	The people need to understand Just like 1.7.
	People need to understand that there's two amounts you pay for the cartel.
	You pay a certain amount to go across the river or the desert and turn yourself in.
	You pay a much higher amount to get away because they'll get to Chicago or New York.
	Why did 1.7 million people choose to pay more to get away?
	Why not turn yourselves into the board, Joe?
	Get processed, get released, get work authorization, get flown to the city of your choice, With work authorization for five to seven years.
	And even when you lose your case, which 9 out of 10 will, ICE isn't arresting and removing you because the Secretary said being in the country illegally on its own is not enough for ICE to make an arrest.
	Why did 1.7 million people pay more?
	Why did they not take advantage of the giveaway program?
	Because they didn't want to get vetted.
	They didn't want to get fingerprinted.
	Why? Because they're carrying fentanyl.
	They're gang members. They're convicted criminals.
	And... They're terrorists.
	I'm telling you, I don't know how many terrorists have crossed the border since Biden's been president, but someday we're going to find out, and that's going to be a bad day for America.
	So, which immigration policies worked the best?
	What was most effective?
	And were those things scrapped?
	Because again, the border was out of control.
	It's not like it was now, but it was sort of out of control.
	It was the Wild West a little bit.
	Trump comes in. You're able to actually get things done.
	They shut it down to, let's call it, all-time lows.
	You know, relatively speaking, right?
	All-time lows, you know, under systems that literally incentivized people to, you know, rush out of their countries and come here.
	We were able to do that pretty quickly.
	What were the policies that were most effective?
	And, you know, in a Trump 2024 term, how long would it take to spin those policies back up to actually to shut this stuff down?
	And more importantly than maybe even go after some of the people and certainly the more nefarious ones that are already in country?
	First of all, there's three or four major policies that the Trump administration put into effect that were game-changers.
	I set myself up with this.
	About two months ago, I was with President Trump, and he asked me that same question.
	How quick do we get it back?
	I promised him 90 days we could get the border secured, because you simply dust off the Trump plans that were proven most effective, right?
	The remaining Mexico program, game-changer.
	And the good thing about the remaining Mexico program, people can still claim asylum.
	If they're really escaping fear and persecution from their homeland, which 90% don't, they can still claim asylum to just wait in Mexico for the hearing.
	I remember being in the Oval Office with President Trump when I explained to him that based on the last 10 years of data from immigration courts, nearly 9 out of 10 people who have claimed asylum at the border never get relief from U.S. courts because they either don't show up in court or they don't qualify.
	Then the president asked me, what happens to those people in the time they get a fine order?
	Well, if they're not detained, only about 6% leave.
	So that's when President Trump said, well, if 90% are committing asylum fraud and don't qualify, why do we release them at all?
	So he came up with the Remain in Mexico program, a game changer.
	The other thing was the Third Safe Country agreements, which if you're actually a state with fair persecution from Guatemala, And you make it into Mexico?
	Have you not escaped that fear and persecution from your home government?
	You're not there anymore. Of course you have.
	That's a good point for the asylum seekers.
	It's like, well, you know, it seems they only seek asylum or refuge from, you know, their countries in America.
	They don't stay in neighboring countries to their own country.
	And they could just as easily do that.
	And they'd be very familiar in many cases, certainly coming from Latin America with the language, etc.
	But it seems they always end up here.
	And President Trump said, we're going to end that too.
	And he demanded the three countries, the triangle countries, Guatemala, Honduras, and El Salvador, sign this agreement with Mexico that they claim a sign of the first three countries to come in.
	He made them sign that.
	And I remember the conversation was, what have we done in the past?
	I said, we send them millions of dollars.
	They want to create opportunities on their country so people won't want to leave.
	Has it worked? No, it hasn't worked in decades, sir.
	So what do you do? He says, you know what? I'm not giving them money.
	Matter of fact, I'm taking money away.
	If they don't agree to this and start to enforce their own immigration laws, I'm going to take foreign aid away.
	So President Trump was one badass president.
	He went to each of these countries, including Mexico, and demanded they not only enforce their laws, But they have active participation in illegal migration.
	He went to Mexico, demanded he put military on the northern-southern border.
	He demanded Mexico, given to the Remain in Mexico program.
	Finally, the last two things, President Trump, to be ended, catch and release.
	If people know that they cross the border legally, which is a crime, they're not going to be released.
	You're going to be detained, attorney, see a judge, or sent back.
	Finally, the wall.
	The wall works.
	And I'm sick and tired of the left saying the wall didn't work.
	Jen Psaki stood at the White House polling one day and said, we stopped building a wall because it's ineffective.
	She lied to the American people.
	Every place they built a border wall.
	Every place. Illegal immigration decreased, illegal drug flow decreased.
	Walls worked. So those are the four biggest things President Trump did.
	And he can simply... Look, this administration right now, Could we put the Remain in Mexico program back in tomorrow?
	The highest courts of land said it was legal.
	If they really want to secure the border, they could put the Remain in Mexico program back in tomorrow, but they won't because it's a Trump plan.
	They won't because they don't want to secure this border.
	Yeah, I mean, you know, it's ironic that the people who didn't have $3 billion to complete the wall, which was, you know, well underway, and, you know, big portions of it were completed, but now we're actually paying people money to store the materials that were literally bought and paid for and just need to be installed.
	I mean, that's going on.
	on. Our government is paying people to not install the stuff that was already bought.
	We don't have $3 billion to complete the remaining miles of the wall, but we have $130 and probably
	another trillion behind that for, you know, I guess the pursuit of a never-ending war
	in Ukraine with nuclear-capable Russia. I mean, it seems brilliant. These people are
	incredible strategists, unless, of course, they're trying to destroy America, which it
	feels like they are doing, and that's their intention.
	There's almost no other explanation to me at this point.
	Talking about the wall, you had Governor DeSantis say the other day that Trump didn't build enough wall, Trump didn't finish the wall.
	Well, let's make one thing perfectly straight.
	Trump built 465 miles of wall.
	Ron DeSantis hasn't built an inch, right?
	And Trump did that without the help of Congress.
	Remember the first two years of Trump administration, Congress wasn't helping them with the border.
	They weren't giving money.
	You had to never... Trump was there.
	President Trump fell out of the box.
	He found the money to do it.
	He found it from DOD. He got sued a thousand times by environmental groups, by the left, open advocates, border advocates.
	Constant lawsuits. He weathered every one of those lawsuits and won.
	And he built 465 miles of wall, which saved lives.
	Yeah, that's important.
	You know, listen, before Ron DeSantis was told by his consultants and stuff like that, he has to attract—that was in the opening.
	I mean, he was praising Trump and the policies, and it was all working.
	But I think you actually brought up a really good point.
	You know, people are like, well, why didn't Trump get it done?
	You know why? Because Paul Ryan, who's out there shilling for Ron DeSantis, was the Speaker of the House.
	He's now on the board of Fox News.
	They've been, you know, fluffing DeSantis for the last couple months on this thing.
	This is the person that didn't want to do it because he didn't want to upset the Democrats.
	So yeah, we had the House, we had the Senate, and we had the presidency, but it was Republicans that actually sabotaged that because those rhinos would rather be loved by the D.C. swamp.
	And, you know, the Washington Post and get invited to the cool person D.C. Christmas party and then actually do what their constituency wants.
	So, I mean, that's an important thing because these are the people that are endorsing DeSantis.
	We're the same guys that prevented Trump.
	You know, it didn't prevent him. He still got a lot done.
	But they wasted two years of a four-year presidency playing those games.
	And that was the rhino Republicans.
	Right, and that's one of the biggest reasons I respect President Trump.
	Like I said, I've worked for six presidents.
	I think President Trump's the greatest president of my lifetime because he couldn't be stopped, right?
	It gets bull-blocked by Congress.
	He's got all these lawsuits pending, but he got it done.
	465 miles of wall.
	And people say, well, some of the walls replace the wall.
	You know what President Trump built the wall?
	He built it where the Border Patrol wanted it.
	He built it, even if it's a replacement, some dilapidated wall, the Border Patrol says, look, this is a sit.
	This barrier isn't working.
	We really need it here. This is where most of the migrants are coming.
	This is where most of the dope is coming.
	And that's where he built it.
	That went that far to keep his promise to American people, because he knew walls would work, and they did work.
	Illegal immigration at 83% decrease, 45-year low.
	The walls had a lot to do with it.
	And one final thing about the wall.
	People say, well, some people can climb the wall.
	Some people can't. But the walls aren't designed just to stop people.
	They're designed to slow people down, because you touch that wall, you dig under the wall, you climb the wall, border control, and knows that they've got time to respond.
	But most importantly, the family groups, the children, The women can't climb the wall.
	So they have to funnel them to a place where it's not a wall where the men and women of BorgTour are sitting there ready to take care of them because men are in bad shape.
	Walls save lives because most vulnerable people in the world can't climb that wall.
	It's going to funnel them where they can get help when they finally get to a place where BorgTour agents are.
	Now they're going to be deported.
	But they're going to be taken care of.
	They're going to be given water. They're going to be making sure they're healthy.
	And it's better than dying in the river.
	It's better than dying in the desert.
	Under the Trump administration, and this is what angers me most about all the hate about the Trump administration, that we are inhumane.
	Doctors Without Borders did a study.
	One-third of women that make you journey with you scartels get sexually assaulted.
	When 83% less people are coming, 83% less people are coming, how many women are being raped?
	How many children aren't dying in a river?
	How many Americans ain't dying for fentanyl overdoses because the Border Patrol's on the line catching them?
	How many known suspected terrorists isn't getting in the country?
	How many women and children ain't sent to the United States?
	How many billions of dollars are the cartels not made?
	President Trump's policies were human.
	They saved lives.
	That's the bottom line. Trump policies saved lives and moved immigration to an historic low.
	Unprecedented success.
	And anybody that wants to attack that, they're lying to the American people because the data clearly shows it.
	I've done this for 35 years.
	I've never seen the success like the Trump administration had on our board on Protected America.
	Well, listen, I think you said it best.
	I think he did this, honestly, throughout his life and his career.
	You know, I always said he was a better builder because he spent time on job sites.
	He didn't just listen to a bunch of executives in glass offices.
	He went on the job site. He spoke to construction workers.
	I think it's why he was able to relate to just regular Americans so much.
	You know, you talked about he listened to Border Patrol.
	It was the same thing when they were like, well, you can't do anything about the ISIS caliphate.
	So rather than listening to, like, The lawyer bureaucrats at the Pentagon who'd never been on a battlefield, he went directly to the warfighters and said, what do you need to beat ISIS? And, you know, miraculously, weeks later, the caliphate was shrunk down to nothing, and ISIS was virtually wiped off the face of the earth because the guys do it, the door kickers, the people who are fans, not the bureaucrats, gave him advice, and he went with that rather than, you know, the people who were perpetually wrong, right?
	Same. He got the Abraham Accords done.
	That was the holy grail of geopolitical politics.
	They said it couldn't be done, but...
	They were probably right if we remained within the bureaucrats who'd been failing at this stuff for half a century.
	Of course they couldn't get it done.
	They couldn't get it started, let alone done.
	So he took a different approach, and I think that was so important, and I'm glad it worked out on the border as well, because I guess I'm looking at a stat right now that said in 2013 there were Two pounds of fentanyl caught at the border.
	Now it's thousands of pounds of fentanyl coming across the border every month.
	And this deadly drug basically came out of nowhere.
	What do you make of the rise of fentanyl?
	We understand that I'm sure there's ties to the CCP. I'm sure half of this is a PSYOP. Because it just kills indiscriminately.
	It just devastates families and towns and everything.
	What do you make of that?
	Where did this thing come from?
	What's continuing it?
	How does that continue?
	I mean, it feels like a drug that kills so many people so badly.
	It can't be like for the financial side of it because, you know, I don't think it's a great business model when you're killing your customer all the time.
	What do you think is going on with this?
	Well, the reason so much fentanyl is getting into the country is because the Mexican cartels have operational control of our southern border.
	Think that for a moment. The strongest nation on earth no longer has operational control of our border.
	President Trump did. This president gave it to the Mexican cartels.
	Because here's what the cartels are doing.
	People need to understand. These groups of 100 or 200 family units, they don't show up by accident in a certain place.
	The cartels decide where they cross and when they cross.
	Because they know most of the border patrols, up to 70% of them, are in facilities processing and changing diapers, making boardroom formula, making hospital runs, taking care of the humanitarian crisis Biden created.
	So at least very few agents left on the line.
	So the current cartels are pushing big family groups, knowing whatever agents were left on the line are going to seize to that moment to save lives.
	And that's when they move the fentanyl across open parts of the border.
	They create gaps.
	The criminal cartels do. Now the precursors are produced by China, and they're sold to the criminal cartels in Mexico.
	Here's what's not happening.
	What's President Biden doing about China creating the precursors that are killing 100,000 Americans, poisoning Americans?
	What has he done in Mexico about the criminal cartels?
	Let me remind people that are listening right now, President Trump would hold China accountable because he did.
	President Trump would hold Mexico accountable because he did.
	He threatened billions of dollars in terror.
	President Trump wanted to label the criminal cartels terrorist organizations.
	This president doesn't even discuss it.
	So there's a difference in leadership.
	Because the borders are open, because the borders are so overwhelmed, they're catching less.
	And when I said President Trump had illegal immigration down 83%, which means more agents are on the line, instead of processing chains and diapers, They were catching more of the drug.
	But the drugs flowing freely now, so the cartels have never made this much money
	in their lives because they're making record money smuggling aliens, they're making a record amount of money
	sex trafficking of children and women, and they're making a record amount of money moving drugs.
	That's why there's so much violence in Mexico right now.
	The cartels are fighting each other over the control of the plazas
	because there's so much money to be made.
	And it all comes back to an open border.
	A secure border will save lives.
	A secure border, the cartels don't have free reign to move their fentanyl across the border.
	Now, the dams don't tell everybody, but most of the fentanyl comes through the port of entries.
	That's a lie. Most of the fat now is seized at a port of entry.
	And why is that? Because every vehicle stops.
	Every driver is spoken to.
	So depending on the responses to the officers' questions, they make it secondary in search.
	There's also a CVP targeting system.
	I can't tell you what's in it because it's law enforcement sensitive.
	But when they put that license plate number in there, that bounces against all these different databases.
	And that may come back and say, you may want to secondary this car to take a closer look.
	So, of course, more jerks are being seized at a border of entry.
	But when you've got 70% of agents off the line that are changing diapers, making baby formula, the criminal cartels are going to use the relative least resistance to smuggle the fentanyl in this country.
	If I'm a criminal cartel, I'm going to get two pounds of fentanyl into the country.
	Am I going to put it in the car and go through the border of entry when I know that vehicle is going to be stopped?
	Am I going to give it to somebody to cross the border illegally when the border is tied up with the humanitarian crisis?
	It's a lie the Democrats put.
	Because if they admit most of the fentanyl comes across between the border of entry, then they've got a problem, right?
	Then they've got to admit they don't have control of the Southern border.
	Yeah, I guess that's...
	I have so many questions about it because it's such a big issue.
	I mean, what's going on with morale of the great officers that are down there?
	I've been down to the border. I've seen the wall.
	I've spoken with a lot of these people.
	These are great Americans, but You know, they're so hamstrung.
	I feel like they're so overwhelmed.
	They can't do anything, much like what the Democrats are trying to do with the rest of law enforcement, frankly.
	But, you know, it feels like almost a literal war zone right now.
	What's going on with morale down there?
	And, you know, how do we improve that?
	I mean, I guess you can't under these existing policies because it seems futile.
	Well, a few things. First of all, morale is on the toilet.
	Morale is really not existent.
	I've been down the border about a dozen times in the last year.
	And I talk to a lot of board organizations.
	A lot of them recognize me, you know, from either Fox or being the ICE director, and they come talk to me freely.
	They feel abandoned by the secretary, and they are.
	They feel abandoned by the president, because they are.
	They're not able to do the job and uphold the oath they took.
	This one board of police that told me, he says, I come to work every day as a federal law enforcement officer, and I can't enforce the law.
	I'm like a poor agent.
	These people come to the country illegally.
	What's a crime? What am I doing?
	I'm processing them.
	And drive them to an airport to get a free plane ticket, compliments of the taxpayer, and deliver this person to the very person that paid for the smuggling that person come, right?
	Especially the children. The children didn't release the ORR, and they'll release them in the meantime to a relative or parent who actually paid the criminal organization to smuggle their child in the back of a car and a tractor trailer And we're going to deliver that child to the person that paid for the smuggling, which is a felony.
	That's a conspiracy of smuggling.
	And the board will see how many children are missing under this administration.
	There's like 100,000 children the government can't even find because they don't do proper vetting.
	And I saw the secretary of HHS the other day, Becerra, bragging how quick they get them out of custody.
	Well, no kidding, because you're not vetting the sponsors.
	That's why you can't find 100,000 of them.
	So these children...
	Believe me, based on my 35-year experience, some are in pornographic movies, some are living with pedophiles, some are in forced labor.
	God help us. This stuff did not happen under President Trump.
	The only saving grace and morale is that they truly believe that President Trump's coming back.
	That's what they're hanging on to.
	They want to be able to do their job again.
	They want to be able to secure the border.
	Because when they're in a process center changing diapers, making baby formula, they know 70% are off the line.
	They know while they're sitting there Fentanyl is coming across to killing Americans.
	They know some child is being sex trafficked and they're not there to stop it.
	They don't notice that their church is coming across.
	I mean, as a federal law enforcement officer, they just sit there and they're helpless.
	And to top it all off, you've got the secretary and the president who slandered the men of the horse patrol, saying they whipped black migrants when they were briefed before the press conference that that didn't happen.
	And these men Suffered.
	Their wives and children were bullied in churches and schools.
	Their fathers are racist.
	And to this day, the administration has apologized to them.
	To this day, they're not back to full duty.
	These men's careers were ruined based on a lie.
	No, it's absolutely sick.
	By the way, a couple of guys are...
	I'm just following along in the live stream, in the live chat.
	They're like, well, you're falling asleep, Don.
	No, I'm reading your guys' comments on the live chat.
	I can't look at the camera and read at the same time.
	So I'm not falling asleep.
	I'm trying to actually see some of the other interesting stuff that people are saying.
	But you can't escape the haters, Tom.
	But a question for you. How do you...
	Is there a way?
	My father spoke about incorporating the military into this.
	I can't think of an enemy, foreign or domestic, that's worse than what the cartels are doing right now.
	Could our military effectively work with Border Patrol as well as some of these other things to do this?
	Because I imagine the same deal that allowed you to negotiate Remain in Mexico would allow you to actually use our military to go on the offensive and attack and take out the cartels directly.
	Well, certainly.
	The criminal cartels are not going to be taken down by Mexico.
	A lot of the Mexican government is corrupt.
	A lot of the Mexican military is corrupt.
	A lot of the Mexican law enforcement are corrupt.
	I'm not saying all of them. I'm sure there's some cops in Mexico who really want to do the right thing.
	But a vast part of them are corrupt.
	They're not going to take the cartels down.
	The cartels run Mexico.
	Oh yeah, everyone's on the payroll.
	Just so we're clear, literally everyone is on the payroll down there, I'm sure, right?
	It's going to take U.S. law enforcement, U.S. intelligence, U.S. special ops.
	To take them out. And I think that's what needs to be done.
	They need to be designated a terrorist organization so we can attack them because some of the criminal cartels in Mexico are operating over 40 countries across the globe.
	People need to understand these criminal cartels are not just in Mexico.
	Criminal cartels in Mexico are now running operations in almost all of our major cities in the United States.
	Not only are they moving the drugs in here, now they're taking all the drug trade when they're in the cities.
	As far as the haters, let me say something to the haters.
	They want to talk about, under Trump, about family separation.
	Let me remind people, zero tolerance was done for one reason, to save lives.
	Women are being raped, children are dying, so we figure, let's prosecute people that enter country illegally, which is a crime, and maybe they'll stop.
	Maybe these people have stopped putting their families in this situation.
	Maybe less children will die.
	Maybe less females get raped.
	It's about saving lives, period.
	But you want to talk about family separations?
	Let's talk about 350,000 children that have crossed the border since Joe Biden become president.
	350,000 children have been separated from their parents, self-separated, to get into the country to be released by a government that can't find 100,000 of them.
	I'm telling you something. 100,000 children, not all of them, but we already found out some are in forced labor.
	Cleaning up entrails and meat packing plants at night.
	Some are in pornographic movies and some are living with pedophiles.
	You got adult males that is the sponsor for six or seven females, they found out.
	Even somebody from HHS blew the whistle on this.
	So I don't want to hear...
	No, our inhumane Trump administration, where we try to save lives.
	And I'll tell you something else.
	If you think we're bad people, if you wonder why I get emotional on this issue, why President Trump got emotional on this issue, because I spoke to President Trump many times.
	I told him what I saw in my 35-year career.
	People that hate me, go talk to a nine-year-old that got raped by the cartel numerous times.
	Look in her eyes that are just empty.
	She has no soul left.
	Everything innocent has been taken from her.
	Grown men crawling on her, raping her time after time again.
	Standing back to track the trail of 19 dead migrants, including a five-year-old boy that suffocated to death in a steel box, 170 degrees, died in his father's arms, begging his father to save him.
	Deal with the number of dead migrants I've found in my career.
	Deal with the trafficking and talking to some of these women what they went through.
	If these haters would have seen what I've seen and experienced what I've seen in 35 years, they'd understand why secure border saves lives.
	They'd understand why this issue is so important.
	So for the haters, keep on hating.
	Because I've been asked many times, does it bother you a big part of this country hates you?
	It don't bother me a bit.
	Because if they knew what I knew, they wouldn't hate me.
	Yeah. We had Tim Ballard on the show, you know, 10 days ago or so, you know, talking about that.
	I had met him in 15. I was the guy that actually, I think, made the initial introduction to the White House.
	And, you know, then they formed the task force looking into the, you know, the child sex trafficking.
	They funded it with, like, $300 million.
	And... That's when I realized how lost we are as a country, right?
	I mean, the Democrats, they went crazy.
	I was like, I thought this was an issue that we could all agree on.
	But watching people try to defend this stuff, watching them turn a blind eye, it's absolutely disgusting.
	I mean, I guess that brings me to...
	What do you think about the Ron DeSantis sort of, the flip-flop, another Ron DeSantis flip-flop, but on Trump's border record?
	Because, I mean, I think considering what we were working with, our record was about as stellar as it could possibly be.
	Certainly the best it's ever been, given the circumstances.
	It was more stellar. It was unprecedented.
	Anybody can look up the data. Unprecedented.
	The greatest success on the Southern border I've ever seen.
	And I've been at this since 1984.
	I mean, I wore that Border Patrol uniform.
	I spent more than 20 years investigating an organization that smuggled dope, smuggled women, and smuggled children.
	And I'm telling you, it was unprecedented success.
	And even the concept of flying migrants to Connecticut and other things, which he wants to take credit for, good, fine.
	Something he probably should have done.
	But we know that idea originated.
	President Trump's administration.
	I was in the Oval Office.
	We talked about the same thing. Let's take some of these sanctuary cities.
	And so our plan was being devised.
	You know why it didn't happen?
	Because by the time we're ready to pull the trigger on the operation, we couldn't fill a bus.
	Because President Trump stopped it.
	We couldn't fill a bus if we wanted to, because he stopped catching release.
	He had to remain in Mexico program.
	I think it's far better to prevent illegal immigration than to deliver them someplace where they, you know, not show up in court and go get, you know, go get You know, whatever they're going to get, you know, benefits from our social service system.
	But the reason we didn't do it because we stopped it and we couldn't fill a bus up.
	That's the ultimate success.
	And when you do that, I'll keep harping on this.
	If you take 83% of the cars off the highway, will there be less highway deaths?
	President Trump stopped 83% of people making that dangerous journey through the Darien Strait in Panama, across the cartel-controlled Mexico.
	Less women being raped, less children are dying.
	Hyde is successful. If they want to claim asylum, wait in Mexico, you'll have your hearing.
	That way, if you don't qualify, which 9 out of 10 don't, we don't have to look to remove you.
	You're already removed.
	It made perfect sense.
	And people want to attack that program because it got away from catch release.
	Here's what the secretary knows and I know and you know.
	Based on data, 9 out of 10 don't qualify.
	Based on the Homeland Security report, 9 out of 10 loses the case, they get an order removal.
	What happens? If they're a family group, only 6% leave.
	This is why this administration is releasing people because they know what the Homeland Security Life Security report says.
	They know what the immigration court data says.
	They know 9 out of 10 will fail.
	But if they don't detain them, They'll never leave.
	That's what's happened. That is the truth of what's happened.
	This is my experience. Yeah, is that what you're, I mean, that 83% number, I mean, is that what you're most proud of during your time at ICE as a director, or is it something else, or is it a combination of things?
	Combination of the 83%, I know that the Trump administration saved many lives.
	That saved a lot of sexual assaulted women.
	That saved children from being sexually assaulted.
	That saved lives.
	And other things, President Trump, you know, when I was running ICE, you know, countries like El Salvador was pushing back.
	Even some of this here illegally, if they get deported by an immigration judge, we've got to ask permission of that country to return them before we can actually return them.
	El Salvador wasn't taking MS-13, right?
	And President Trump called me and I told him, we went to New York City, did an Operation Matador, arrested like just short of 500 MS-13 members.
	And I briefed the president, getting him deported is going to be a problem because El Salvador keeps pushing back.
	He says, really?
	Okay, tell me about it.
	I told him about it. Within two days, I get a phone call from the President Trump.
	How many planes can you fill up?
	Get them ready to go. Because he called El Salvador and said, no, this is happening.
	You have to take your people back.
	That was a game changer.
	I mean, President Trump held these countries accountable.
	And like I said, he threatened to take money away.
	And, you know, it's against the law of Mexico to traffic in women and children.
	They don't enforce the law. It's against the law of Mexico to transit through the country without a transit visa, but they're allowing it.
	President Trump called other countries responsible.
	And as far as Mexico paying for the wall, let me tell you something.
	By what President did with Mexico, with the National Guard on the northern-southern border military, by Remain in Mexico program, by the Save Third Country agreements, that saved ICE billions of dollars in detention costs.
	It saved the Border Patrol billions of dollars in enforcement.
	It saved the Immigration Court billions of dollars.
	So that alone, what Trump did, saved this country billions of dollars.
	So maybe Mexico didn't cut a check.
	But because of the policy President Trump demanded of these countries, we save billions of dollars in taxpayer funding.
	83% decline?
	Think of the billions of dollars we save in taxpayer funding.
	Amazing. Well, yeah, I mean, listen, the irony of some of these things is sort of amazing, man.
	Democrats, they love going out there and telling everyone that no one's above the law, but it appears to me that illegal immigrants are above the law.
	I mean, they... We're good to go.
	When does this idiocy stop?
	I mean, shouldn't Mayorkas, honestly, you know, I don't like using impeached lightly, but at this point, I mean, shouldn't he be impeached for refusing to enforce immigration law?
	Shouldn't he be impeached for essentially making American second-class citizens within their own country?
	Second to those who are here illegally, who aren't paying for the services that the Democrats so easily want to give them.
	I mean, I feel like we as citizens have the privilege of paying for us, for our children, for the elderly, for illegals, for their children, for their elderly.
	I mean, where does it end? Well, Secretary Mayorkas should have been impeached a year ago.
	I can't believe the Republicans are taking us long to do it.
	Listen, they impeached President Trump to make a phone call.
	But you can't impeach Mayorkas for 100,000 overdose deaths because the border is open, for 1,700 migrant deaths because the border is open, for the drastic increase in sex trafficking in women and children, for no inspector terrorists crossing the border at ease, for lying about the men of the horse patrol standing at the White House podium and slandering these men when he was briefed before the press conference that it didn't happen.
	If he's sternly enough to impeach him, he violated his oath of office.
	His desire for that open border has cost lives, thousands of lives.
	Certainly he should be impeached.
	Absolutely. I've been calling for this impeachment over a year.
	So as a Mark Morgan, CBP commercial.
	So Heritage Foundation, which is well-respected, did a whole piece on it.
	I mean, if anybody deserves impeachment, it's this man.
	And look, I used to respect him when he was Deputy Secretary because when he was Deputy Secretary and Jay Johnson, when there's a thousand illegal entries, we all got called in by Secretary Johnson.
	What the hell are we doing about this?
	It's a bad day. A thousand a day was a crisis.
	Now he's celebrating, but we're down to 4,000 a day.
	Four times more than when he was deputy secretary and it's a success.
	It's still way above the Trump administration.
	And what he's simply doing is taking thousands of people and putting them through a port of entry, calling it a legal pathway.
	He's simply taking illegal aliens, pulling thousands through the port of entry, so he can not have to claim them as an illegal entry.
	But if you claim what he's bringing to the port of entry, in my opinion, illegally, and what's being caught still by the Border Patrol, you're still at record numbers.
	It's a shell game. That's what I want to know.
	I mean, we saw that as it relates to the recession.
	You know, Joe Biden has the privilege.
	I wrote a book about liberal privilege, but Joe Biden has the privilege.
	The way that statistics have been kept, they changed the math.
	They changed the formula.
	Remember, recession was two straight quarters of GDP shrinkage, yada, yada, yada, whatever it was exactly.
	Well, now it's different.
	Do you think they're fudging the numbers down on the border right now?
	I don't think they can cover it all up, but do you think they've changed some of the way that they measured things to make it appear that it's not as bad as it actually is?
	Absolutely. Like I said, they are bringing people.
	Look, I'm not a lawyer, but I can read.
	I know what the parole policy says, and they're bringing thousands a day in through the court of entries, processing for parole and releasing them in the United States.
	Ask me how many actually show up at ICE. About 30%.
	70% of them win.
	They only show up at ICE. And what they're doing, they know that based on 10 years of data, that 9 out of 10 don't qualify, but they're letting them in anyways.
	And like I said, ICE is going to arrest them.
	The reason Mayorkas wouldn't answer the question after hearing it, how many non-criminals he rescued, because maybe he doesn't know, but I can tell you, the answer is pretty close to zero.
	I talked to ICE agents. They're not even looking for them, because they were told not to look for them.
	So they're fudging numbers. And Mayorkas talks about the Southwest border numbers are down, but he's not talking about the port of entrance, like Miami Airport.
	They're bringing pro-ease by the thousands to the Miami airport.
	That's not counted on Southwest border numbers.
	They're bringing societies throughout the country, northern border, eastern border, maritime.
	It's just ridiculous what the administration is doing.
	And I tell you what, maybe they'll impeach him, maybe they won't, they should, but if they don't impeach him, the only justification I see at the end of all this is that someday that man's going to be leaving, and he's going to leave with zero respect from the tens of thousands of federal law enforcement officers that he commanded.
	He's going to leave a disgrace to their job.
	He's an embarrassing position he holds, and he's got to live with that.
	I can tell you the 20,000 men and women at Borbacheco, the 20,000 men at ICE, not even mention the Secret Service and other other law.
	When you have a Secretary of Homeland Security who ignores statute, who ignores the law,
	when the Secretary of Homeland Security can openly ignore the law
	and tell officers to ignore the law, you're never gonna win that.
	He's gonna retire as a disgrace.
	Mark Marlowe.
	Well, yeah, listen, I don't think Joe Biden knows where he is on an average day,
	so I don't know that that's gonna affect him, but I think the people who are in charge,
	who are actually pulling the purse strings, who are putting whatever it is in front of him,
	I think that's why Joe Biden's been a useful idiot for the Democrats and the radical left,
	because he'll sort of sign anything that they put in front of him.
	I mean, I think you heard probably in my intro, he's out there literally empowering liberal nonprofits,
	including some that are out there, wanting to abolish ICE over empowering federal agents
	to actually do their job.
	I mean, it seems so asinine, but it seems the Abolish ICE movement is literally being helped and being run by the Biden administration and their policies, as well as their dollars, which are ultimately our dollars as taxpayers.
	Well, the Democrats are pushing back on ICE. They need to be asked.
	Secretary Mayorkas should be asked an open testimony.
	He should be saying, Secretary Mayorkas, For the people that lose their asylum case in front of an immigration court, they should be immediately removed.
	Now, if they hide out for five or six years and have a U.S. citizen child, is he immune now?
	Does a federal court order mean nothing?
	He gets to stay because he had a USC kid?
	I mean, we need a home account.
	Even the left, people like AOC who said they got a right to claim asylum.
	They got the right to see a judge.
	Okay. But you have to agree that whatever decision is made by the federal court, it has to be executed because it isn't.
	There's no value in the entire due process system.
	You can't like due process only if you like the outcome.
	Well, but Tom, I mean, are you surprised that an administration that would just turn a blind eye to Hunter Biden, the crimes, the insanity, while also simultaneously going after their political enemies, you know, Hunter gets this sweetheart plea deals.
	I mean, are we surprised that those people would also aid and abet illegal immigration?
	You know, to their ends, because, you know, again, the means justify the ends, and, you know, that's worth it to them.
	I mean, I don't think anything should surprise us from these people and their total lack of respect for our Constitution, for our laws, and for basic decency.
	I'm not surprised. I agree 100%.
	But here's where I'm going.
	When the next administration gets into the White House, we shouldn't hear a word.
	For the people who have their due process, the people that are ordered by the federal court, you must leave, I don't want to hear anybody heartache, anybody crying, that when these people get rounded up and get removed.
	That is the process put in place.
	That's what the legal process says.
	So if you really want due process, then we need to carry out the final order of the judge.
	Because I know, during the next Trump administration, there is going to be a lot of deportations.
	And people ought to remember, we let these people into the country, even after they committed a crime, entered the country legally, they were ordered removed by a federal judge And instead of leaving, they became a fugitive.
	Let's remember that. They have to leave.
	Because if we don't have some sort of consequence, if we don't enforce the law, then we're never going to fix the border problem.
	That's how President Trump did, the remaining national.
	He had consequences.
	If you break the law, there's going to be consequences.
	I think we learned as kids, bad behavior, if you don't have consequences of bad behavior, bad behavior don't go away.
	So when Trump administration gets back in power, and I'll be there, I don't want to hear a word about deporting people who had to due process and became a fugitive because they didn't do what the court told them to do.
	We looked for them and we removed them.
	What would be your number one, you know, January, let's just call it January 20th, 2025, right?
	Trump gets elected president.
	He's in there. He gets sworn into office.
	You know, second number one, what would be the most effective possible policy to enact?
	Like, executive order number one to combat the insanity and the crisis there.
	And the catch and release ends now.
	Anybody across that border would not be released.
	They'll be detained. Then the second phone calls to the President of Mexico.
	Remain in Mexico is back in play.
	The federal courts at the highest levels have said it's legal, and again, it's going to save lives.
	First thing you do, remain in Mexico and catch release.
	If people know that they're going to enter the country, they're going to make a plausible claim to asylum, that they're not going to be released, they stop coming.
	What people don't know about the Remain in Mexico program, after a few months, People stop coming because they realize they weren't going to be, but most people know they don't qualify for asylum.
	They're coming for a better life. They're coming for a job.
	I get it, but that don't qualify for asylum.
	So they know they don't really qualify for asylum.
	So once they were no longer released to Be in the wind for the next 20 years.
	They stopped coming.
	So families weren't spending their life savings giving it to the cartels that come to the United States because they weren't going to be released.
	Again, it saved lives.
	These families don't have a lot of money.
	They didn't spend their money paying the cartels because they knew they weren't going to be released.
	People stopped coming. I should tell you something.
	Because if you're really escaping fear and persecution from your own government because of race, religion, political affiliation, You're going to wait in Mexico for your hearing because you're escaping fear of death and persecution.
	Why did they leave? Why did they stop coming?
	Because it's not about asylum.
	It's about coming to the United States.
	I get it. But there's a right way to do it or a wrong way to do it.
	There are millions of people standing in line, doing things the right way, paying the fees, taking their tests, doing the background investigations.
	I was in New York City the other day, and my driver recognized me.
	He's from Nigeria.
	He came to the country as a student.
	Then he became a green card holder.
	Then he became a citizen.
	And he says, I've been trying to get my family over here for a few years, and we're making no headway.
	And I see the news where these families are coming across the border and being released, getting work authorization.
	Some days I say, why the hell am I playing this game, the legal game, when I can simply have them smuggle in the United States?
	Then I remember, Mr.
	Holman, why I became a citizen.
	Because I love this country and I respect this country.
	I don't want to break its walls.
	You can't respect the country and break its walls.
	You can't have it both ways.
	And what a story, you know, from this guy who worked his way up, the legal process, did it the right way.
	His family's sitting in the back seat.
	Is anybody working their visa application?
	No. Why? Because CIS, who does the visa applications, they're all busy dealing with the fraudulent assignment claims on the Southern Board.
	Yeah, you know, it's funny you say that because I actually hear that all the time.
	It usually starts off with me like, are you done, Junior?
	I'm like, oh boy, where's this one gonna go?
	And it's, you know, again, even me, just you're bombarded with the CNN sort of narrative, the bullshit so much that even you.
	But for me, like, I feel like some of the biggest patriots I've met in this country are those who went through the process legally.
	They're the ones that stuck it out for years.
	They did everything right.
	They followed the rules and the restrictions.
	They paid taxes. They're the ones that actually get screwed.
	So, you know, I even get this sort of stereotype notion of the way the world's going to be.
	And these people are some of the most MAGA people in the world.
	It's sort of why the Biden administration is fine with the stuff coming across the southern border.
	But they don't want to grant the same sort of asylum for people escaping Venezuela or Cuba who are actually and have a much higher degree of certainty of being actual refugees, who actually need asylum, who were shot at in the streets of Havana or otherwise.
	That's a little different.
	We don't want that because those people know what they're escaping.
	You know, they know why they're coming here.
	They're not going to just blindly vote for Democrats because they're on some sort of program.
	And that's why there's a disparity there, which, I mean, should probably tell us everything we need to know about the insanity and the asinineness of the policies.
	Well, look, shows like this are hoping to educate the American people when they get the voting booth next year, they're going to vote for border security because it isn't just about illegal immigration anymore.
	It's about national security.
	It's about public safety.
	It's about disease. It's about trafficking women and children.
	It's about non-suspected terrorists.
	We just formed a group, me and several others, called Border 911.
	Anybody can go to Border911.com.
	There's going to be a lot of Trump stuff on there.
	I partnered with Mark Morgan, the CDP commissioner under the Trump administration.
	Tim Ballard, who just had great success.
	Sarah Carter. Derek Maltz, career DEA agents.
	We've been all over the network talking about the fentanyl crisis.
	Jason Jones, Texas DPS intel office.
	No criminal cartels better than anybody in the country.
	We bought the best of the best in a group, Border911.com.
	And we're going to spend the next year doing what you're doing.
	We're going to educate the American people.
	Regardless of what you think about illegal immigration, understand a secured border becomes a national security issue.
	So when you get to the voting booth next year, vote for the guy who's going to secure the border.
	Because as you said earlier in the show, every state is a border state.
	The fentanyl coming across that border is making it to every town, city, and state in this country.
	Criminal partels are in every major city of this country.
	MS-13 are now in 48 states.
	When I started my career, they're in three states.
	They're in 48 states. A secure border affects everybody in this country.
	Just about everybody knows somebody or knows somebody that has a fentanyl crisis.
	You're not going to be aware of the trafficking because it's hard to spot.
	I'm telling you, there's trafficking happening in your area.
	Women are being forced into prostitution.
	Children. We're going to educate American people.
	So, everybody that's listening, go to border911.com, file.
	You can sign in.
	We'll get you notifications.
	We're going to be out talking about President Trump, the great success, and why it's important.
	Why it's important that we vote for border security next election.
	I don't care what you think of President Trump.
	I don't care what you think of me.
	If you follow the facts.
	A secure border saves lives.
	Prevents children from being raped.
	Prevents women from being raped.
	It prevents no inspector terrorists getting into the country.
	It's going to vastly decrease the smuggling of fentanyl.
	If you care about any of these things, then you have to have a secure border.
	100%. Listen, facts don't care about your feelings.
	So guys, go check that out.
	Border911. Tom, I'll link up with you as well and get me some more information.
	People have to understand what's actually going on.
	And again, there's so few places that can actually do it.
	So guys, go check out the website.
	Follow Tom on social so you can keep up with that.
	Tom, I want to thank you for being here.
	You're a great patriot.
	People always ask me, who am I looking forward to having in the administration?
	Now that we've weeded out sort of the swamp rats, we understand where it is.
	You're definitely at the top of my list, man.
	It's going to drive people crazy when you're back in there and in charge.
	But you're going to do a lot of good for a lot of people, not just in this country, but really across the world.
	So I appreciate your patriotism.
	I appreciate that you stay in this fight on an issue that's not easy to stay on the fight, meaning
	you're going to get hit day in and day out, like we are, by the radical left, by the mainstream media,
	by big tech.
	And it's just awesome to see you in the fight.
	So thank you so much, Tom, for joining us today.
	We'll definitely have you back on as more unfolds on the border.
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