THE NEW MEDIA ERA IS HERE: Live w/ Journalist James O'Keefe, Plus Biden Corruption in Full Focus | TRIGGERED Ep.42
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Good evening, guys, and welcome to another major episode of Triggered.
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This is one I'm actually really excited about.
We're joined today by James O'Keefe.
James has been a leading, if not the leading, conservative journalist now for over a decade.
He's breaking the stories that...
Mainstream media doesn't want to touch, although you'd think if they were real journalists, they'd be all over it.
They choose not to be. His hidden cameras have exposed just about everyone from Google to Pfizer to government officials.
James just founded the O'Keefe Media Group after leaving Project Veritas, and we're going to get right to James.
We're going to do it a little bit differently this time.
He had a hard out, so I wanted to make sure we had time to get to all of the questions.
I'm going to be watching some of your questions live as well.
So we'll do that, and I'll go news of the week at the end of the show once we're over with James, because that way we can cover some of the other major stories of the week, like, oh, I don't know, our Banana Republic indicting my father and his arraignment in Miami on Tuesday.
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James, how you doing?
Great to be with you.
Good to have you, man.
So, you know, to start, you have a big story out, and I, you know, in the little chat we had earlier,
I guess you have another one coming out on Tuesday, so I'd love you to tease that,
but you have an investigation suggesting major fraud with the Democrat Party's
premier fundraising platform, ActBlue.
Your investigation found that elderly people are being named as having given thousands of dollars
Democrats but they've never given to them.
Here's a couple of clips from the report.
We'll take a look, and I'll come back to you with your thoughts on it.
Sound about right that there's been 18,000 contributions?
Absolutely not. For the...
Absolutely not.
In the amount of like $170,000?
Absolutely not.
Really? Yes. Okay.
So that's not you doing that?
No, it's not. But does the frequency ring a bell that you're donating that much every like 10 times a day sometimes?
No. No? No.
Do you think someone is maybe fraudulently Well, they must be.
They must be.
ActBlue is the one I use for political donations, and I do not make that kind of political donation.
The past two years, you gave 5,300 times.
Does that number make sense?
5,300 times?
Yes. How much is the money?
$86,708.
Does that number make sense to you?
$86,000?
Yeah.
21 and 22. You think you gave over $30,000?
No, I don't give $200.
Wow. So James, what's going on here?
What do you think you've found?
You know, what's the volume, the scope of this?
Obviously, it seems illegal to me.
I have a feeling if Republicans were doing this, there'd be actual consequences.
What's happening right now?
Well, and Congress is now getting involved, Don.
Senator Rubio, Congressman Gates have written to the FEC, written to the chairwoman of the FEC. It's alarming reports there.
You see from the field, citizen journalists, some of them work for me, some of them just inspired to do this on their own.
Fraudulent donations being reported to the FEC by ActBlue.
A lot of individuals, mostly senior citizens, we found living in lower middle class to middle class homes have reportedly donated thousands of times to ActBlue a year.
These people have no idea that they're doing this.
Some of these interactions are quite funny.
The one in Annapolis, I knocked on the guy's door and he said he wants to shoot Donald Trump in the head.
It's people, obviously Democrats, but they're shocked that thousands of dollars of money is being apparently laundered through their home address.
Now, as Rubio pointed out in his letter, it comes as no surprise to act blue serves as a vessel for fraud, considering there's no institutional security or safeguards ingrained with their donation processes.
They don't require a CVV number on the transaction.
So we haven't yet figured out, Don, Who or what is exactly behind this?
We just know that there is fraud and that thousands of dollars, thousands of times, are going through these innocent people's addresses.
Well, it doesn't surprise me at all.
I look at some of these congressional races and Senate races across the country, and the Democrats are outspending the Republicans 10 to 1.
I mean, the money is coming from somewhere, and they certainly don't have a shortage of sort of globalist billionaires that would be willing to fund those things.
But it seems like, you know, there are limitations to what those people can fund individually, so maybe this is how they've done that.
And I mean, if you've just discovered that many, you know, if this is tens of thousands of people, I mean, this could be just literally game-changing and obviously extremely illegal.
But again, there seem to be consequences only one way right now, unfortunately.
Well, I did speak to Peter, a guy named Peter Election Watch.
This is a group in Wisconsin that gathered a lot of this FEC data.
And he's about to file a complaint, a federal lawsuit.
And without getting into the specifics, he has talked to me about some of this tracing they've done, trying to figure out where is this coming from.
He calls it tracing packets.
And according to him and the software that he's using, he's saying 60%, 60% of the money seems to be coming from China, according to Peter Election Watch.
He's working with a few different companies to look into that, including a bank that they say is responsible for a lot of these transactions, a bank called Amalgamated Bank, the DC branch.
So a lack of security there.
This story is just developing.
Congressman Gates put out a release saying that he is going to be talking to the FEC and he has legislation titled Put Zombie Donors to Rest Act that would amend the Internal Revenue Code to require a CVV number on these transactions because we don't know why there is such little security when it comes to ActBlue.
We don't know why they're allowing for this sort of thing to happen.
Well, I think they're fine taking it, and it should be no surprise to people that if it is funded by China, when you look at the Democrats' policies today on China, you understand that, you know, they're America-last, China-first, almost shockingly so.
I mean, it's so flagrant now, it's ridiculous.
So it wouldn't surprise me that a lot of them would be funded by China.
Right. And a lot of citizen journalists are asking a lot of good questions.
This story literally launched OMG because I felt that a lot of people want to get involved.
A lot of people want to knock on doors.
It's an easy thing for people to do, to knock on the doors of these Democrats and to say, hey, did you donate $30,000 to Joe Biden?
It activates people.
I spoke to one guy in Annapolis, Maryland, different guy than the guy that said
hit Donald Trump with a baseball bat.
This other guy actually said, I'm glad that you're looking into this
and please get to the bottom of it.
Now this guy, you know, definitely 100% liberal Democrat, but appreciated the work that I'm doing
because he felt like a victim.
Some people call these people smurfs, a negative connotation there, I think.
And some people call the people that are doing the money zombie donors.
I think the elderly people are victims of this and a lot of them are being woken up
by the citizens knocking on their door.
Don, not all these people work for me, just dozens of people inspired to go out
and expose whatever this is.
Well, listen, I hope that you've done that.
I hope that you're inspiring other people to get out there and ask the real questions.
I mean, there's such a dearth of that in our actual mainstream media.
You know, the people who are journalists, it's amazing how little journalism they want to do.
They just want to sort of parrot the Democrat narrative.
I mean, they've gone after you countless times.
I mean... I don't think they've ever proven you wrong, but they go after you when you're breaking stories that you think they would be all over.
So you'd mention OMG. I love the acronym for O'Keefe Media Group.
You founded Project Veritas, but you're not there anymore.
Can you tell us a little bit about what happened there?
You know, I imagine they regret their actions because I look at you as Project Veritas.
I mean, you're the guy that did it.
You're the guy, and we'll get to this one later, you know, that went in there dressed like a pimp trying to get acorn donations to fund a brothel.
I mean, I thought that was sort of amazing, you know, just the way this all started.
But then you really started breaking, you know, big stories.
You know, tell us a little bit about what happened and really now what you're trying to accomplish with OMG, your new group.
Yeah, that Acorn story also, Hannah Giles went in there with me some 13 years ago.
The mission of OMG is to decentralize journalism.
It's to empower other people to do what we do here.
We have a very big story coming next week, actually.
I think perhaps even more significant of an institution than Pfizer was.
And Pfizer is very, very powerful and controls the majority of the advertising dollars on television, which is one of the problems you have in media, which is that journalists are beholden to their advertisers, which include Big Pharma.
But the institution that we're about to investigate is even bigger than that.
And it takes independent people, Don, to...
To speak truth to power.
I'm not for sale.
No one tells me what to do.
No one tells me what not to do.
If anyone tries to do that, I just walk away.
And that's my core value.
That's my core tenet. That's what I believe in.
Journalists should operate completely unafraid and impartial.
It should be focused on the facts.
And that's what I've always believed.
And so OMG's mission is really to get people to take these classes that we're offering next month that really open up, open source all of my knowledge on ethics, on the law, on technology, on how to identify a story and how to go undercover.
And give that to people because everyone wants to find and expose corruption.
They just need some training.
They just need some help. So we have a core staff right now, some really great people working with me, and I hope to inspire other people to do what I do.
Well, listen, I hope so, too, because, again, I think there's probably so much more out there.
I mean, it's perhaps a little bit what I'm trying to do here on Rumble, right, where I have a platform of free speech.
I can say what needs to be said.
I can take things further than they'll ever take on, you know, frankly, either side of the mainstream media spectrum.
So I think, you know, that's super important.
But having people that have, you know, the guts...
The willingness to go in sort of undercover this way to get, you know, entrenched in an organization and talk about what's really going on is huge.
So I think that's absolutely awesome.
You can't teach hunger.
You can't teach, you know, you have to come to the table being willing.
You have to be, you know, courage.
I can't really teach that.
Although maybe you can find it within yourself inspired by other people.
So it's that hunger.
It's that desire to go get a story.
But we can teach you all the other things.
You mentioned ingratiate yourself or getting in there like a guy like Christian Hartsock.
He went into that Democracy Partners group, which you talked about.
I remember on the air in 2016, backstage, you were live with Hannity talking about that.
That took a long time for him to build the trust of Scott Fogle and catch all those guys on tape saying they were punching people at rallies and getting paid to foment violence and these sorts of things.
That took a lot of effort and it took a long time to do that.
But I think there's a lot of people out there that can do that.
So on our website, O'KeefeMediaGroup.com, you can sign up to be a journalist and we have over 1,000 people.
That have signed up to do this, and we're sort of deploying them and dispatching them, including a series of institutions that you'll see next week.
That's great. So, you know, when the Project Veritas breakup went public, I noticed there seemed to—it turned into, like, let's call it a little bit of a proxy war with what seemed to be a lot of Trump supporters sort of vocally having your back, and then some of the more— Like, DeSantis established many people, not so much.
Am I reading too much into that?
Is there anything that that, you know, reveals about, you know, Project Veritas or maybe, you know, Matt Tamarind and some of the behavior of all of this?
Because it was really interesting.
Like, the lines were very distinct.
The people that had, you know, that stuck with Project Veritas corporate were very much that way, whereas sort of it felt like all of the Trump people were very much with you and your mission.
I don't know.
From my perspective and what I went through, I am choosing to, I guess for lack of a better way of putting it, take the high road on this and not even feed into it because if I say anything at all, and I certainly am allowed to in the sense that I'll speak about anything, But I feel like any reaction I give is just going to be used against me.
It's just going to be weaponized.
I wish them well.
There's room for a lot of people doing this.
We need a lot of people exposing this.
I gave this 45-minute long departing...
I don't know if you saw that, but it was back February 20th, my last day there, and I said everything there is to say about the whole thing, everything I knew.
There are circumstantial evidence and some things that I could opine on, but I really don't want to say something unless I actually have evidence of it.
And in that speech, I talked to my staff about what I know to be 100% true.
And I learned a lot.
You know, life is about learning.
I mean, things happen in life and sometimes unfair things happen, but we learn from it and we become better as a result of it.
I mean, one of the things I learned is about boards.
When you're a non-profit, it's not owned by anybody.
There's a board of directors. And right now, I 100% own OMG. And I will never let anybody influence or stop me or anything from...
I'm saying the stories I want to tell, saying what I want to say and doing what I want to do.
And I'll probably be a more effective messenger as a result of this.
Learning more about people and more about how to run a company.
I spent 14 years, 15 years building the credibility of an institution by Year after year, day after day, doing what I felt was right.
And I think it's important for people to do what's right.
Not what donors tell you to do or what advertisers tell you to do.
And sometimes there's a lack of a distinction there.
I never did what donors told me to do.
I did what I felt was right and we built quite a movement as a result of it.
And I'm going to do the exact same thing in a different way.
I'm going to do it in a better way, I think, because I've learned from what I've been through.
Fair enough. So you talk about, you know, credibility for a second.
You know, why is it that liberal journalists are always so quick to try to discredit your stories?
And they, you know, they seem to fail.
I think you used to have a sort of a wall of retribution where people had to come back and apologize and retract their statements about it.
But if you put something out within seconds, they're discrediting it almost faster than they could have possibly even watched What you actually said, what you actually discovered.
Yeah, I call this the reverse Gandhi.
So Gandhi once said something like, first they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they attack you.
And with me it was like, first they attack me, then they eventually just try to ignore me.
In the beginning they said the tapes were doctored.
They said the tapes were edited.
Now they don't really say that anymore.
And I think it's because...
Most people can see right through that.
It's like, what do you mean the tapes are edited?
Give us an example of an actual edit.
They can never name an example, right?
So there's that.
But I think by and large, there's a part of me that actually would say that Believe it or not, when it comes to me and what I'm doing and hopefully what happens next week too, that people are actually more united.
Let me give you an example.
When the FBI raided my home and my colleagues, Spencer and Eric's home, Former reporters of Project Veritas.
The ACLU, the American Civil Liberties Union, came to my defense.
That should shock you.
It should shock your audience. It really should.
It feels like, therefore, anything but civil liberties these days.
Right. But when it comes to me, I think there are some really fundamental things at issue here.
The First Amendment, right?
The Fourth Amendment, the right to not have your reporter's notebook seized because you're asking the president for a comment.
Joe Biden, we asked him for comment.
These are things that we should really unite people.
So I believe that things are getting better.
They may want to hate me, but oftentimes it's not the methods that they hate.
It's the who I'm investigating thing.
So hopefully over time, people are starting to see that what we do kind of unites people even more than it divides people.
So how big was the wall of retractions?
Oh man, it wasn't big enough.
Yeah, well, they did that to me also.
I had a couple, you know, during the Russia, Russia, Russia, I was like three or four times, you know, the walls are closing in, Don Jr., XYZ, and it turns out to be all bullshit.
But, you know, they won't even retract the story when they know it's wrong, right?
The Adam Schiff when he changed the date in the emails and all this kind of stuff.
And it's like, here's the originals.
Like, what are you talking about? And, oh, well, they just move on and they go right to ignore.
It's like whack-a-mole.
You're always trying to get the retraction.
The other thing is that I took so much satisfaction in that because even their little victories, their little accomplishments, so people loved them.
Sometimes I felt like there's a proverbial saying, you're farting into the wind.
This is really making a difference.
People loved them because you're getting little victories.
We talked to the general counsel of these Of these news organizations and we talked to them and they'd say, okay, we'd actually build good relationships just by virtue of emailing the bosses at these news organizations.
Some of these are not bad people.
They're just lawyers working for NBC or, you know, what was the biggest?
The one we got the most retractions from was Newsweek.
I didn't even realize Newsweek still existed.
I thought they got rid of their magazine.
I guess they store it on the internet. They basically don't.
Yeah, exactly. They basically don't.
And there was one time we got a retraction from a, I think it was a Newsweek guy, or Daily Beast guy, one or the other, I can't tell the difference.
And he was called a, quote, breaking news intern.
So they had a breaking news intern and then I gave air to the fact that there exists someone called breaking news intern and then like they let the breaking news intern go.
So for me it was like therapeutic to just get up in front of a camera for 10 minutes and do this and I'll see how I'll continue this.
But I think people are afraid to report on my stories now because they're going to get a retraction request.
Yeah, no, I had a similar instance with one of the recently bankrupted sort of leftist or, you know, journalistic entities, so to speak, where they came to me a couple years ago and they were like, in 2000, it was like 13 years earlier or something, it was like, you were on Jeffrey Epstein's plane and we have two people that will say that I was like, I wasn't.
Like, I guess I went to some event that apparently he was at or something and They were like, well, we're writing it.
We're doing this. And literally, it was one of those weird things.
I remember who I flew down with, a friend of mine on his plane.
And his pilot had the records from 13 years ago.
So after this long back and forth of like, hey, if you do this, I'm going to sue you.
And here's the flight logs that show you that I wasn't with him, yada, yada, yada.
It was like I crushed them.
They didn't care about the truth.
They just wanted to put this out there, even when I proved that it wasn't.
But then I was like, hey, if you do it with this proof, I'm going to sue your asses off.
It was like I ruined their year.
And I'm like, it's sort of weird.
Like you have, you know, 56 or whatever it was, Bill Clinton trips, and you're just trying
to put me on a plane with this guy like that.
I have no idea that I've never met.
Seems sort of weird.
And yet that's the level of credibility that these guys have.
It's not about the truth.
It's about what they can do to their political enemies.
Yeah, they're not used to people fighting back.
They're not used to that.
It was remarkable.
It's important work to hold them accountable.
Honesty, one of the great ironies of my life is that I've been...
You know, called a liar for 10 years.
It was only until recently, in the last few years, that I think things really, really took off.
But for 10 years of my life, I was defamed and targeted and attacked.
Just merciless love.
I mean, you understand a lot of how that works.
I promise you, James, if someone gets it, it's me.
Trust me, I understand.
People often say that...
I often, like...
It's not to be a victim, but I'm like, damn, what I'm going through with these lawsuits and the diary thing with the FBI. And they go, well, if you think you have it bad, you should talk to this other guy that was in the White House.
But my point is, for 10 years, I was going through all that.
And it was just remarkable how many retractions that I was able to obtain from the media.
And I think I've made like one or two mistakes in my career.
And they're on the website.
One or two mistakes.
And they weren't even big mistakes.
They were like, I didn't wear the pimp costume in the video.
I wore it in the B-roll.
But I clearly presented myself as a pimp.
So anyway, it's just crazy what's happening in our world.
Up is down. Left is right.
It's black is white. It's just nuts.
Yeah, I can't help but think that if it was like, you know, the Don Jr.
diary, you're obviously talking about the Ashley Biden diary and stuff like that.
I know you went through a lot of headaches with it.
They've tried tying me into that one somehow as well and all of this craziness.
But, you know, I can't help but wonder, like, if it was mine and I said the things that she said in there, that it would be a really big story.
It wouldn't be Secret Service trying to, you know, get a hold of it and people trying to be arrested and all of this stuff.
I think it would be front page news and Yeah, the question is, would they be raiding New York Times reporters, if a tipster sent them that information and if they were trying to corroborate it, that's the question.
would they raid New York Times journalists like Adam Goldman, Mark Bazzetti, and Mike Schmidt,
national security reporters, who by the way, deal in classified information and documents stolen
by somebody else and sent to them all the time.
That's the bread and butter of what those guys do.
So to celebrate in those rights and then celebrate when another journalist,
his head is chopped off, is really the height of evil.
And it shows them for what they are, which is they have no principles.
And by the way, some of them do have principles because they've come to my defense.
Like Ben Smith at the New York Times tweeted out, journalists should not be cheerleading this attack on James O'Keefe.
I mean, Ed Snowden's organization came to my defense.
I think that on some basic level, even they are shamed into having to defend me because they know how horrible it looks.
And frankly, they're worried it's going to happen to them.
Well, they should be, but I think, you know, you see that.
I mean, you saw that with the FBI raid of Mar-a-Lago, right?
The documents that are classified, you know, within two hours, there's pictures in the Washington Post of the documents that they spread out on the floor.
I mean, it's those people in government that are enforcing, you know, are supposed to enforce the rules that are actually leaking to certain.
They're not going to leak to you. Yeah.
You're getting them from actual credible sources.
But documents that have been under lock and key, under guard of the Secret Service, amazingly enough, the first time anything actually leaks about them is from the FBI to the Washington Post.
So, you know, again, just in terms of alignment of interests, what they're supposed to be doing, I mean, you know, this is a pretty messed up world we live in.
Yeah, and they wouldn't leak to me, but what they would not know is that they were being recorded unbeknownst to them by me or my people.
So that's why we use hidden camera videos, because that's when you're more honest.
And frankly, when the people in the government or the administrative state are leaking to journalists, oftentimes they're manipulating the journalists.
They're giving them untrue information.
Of course. According to people familiar with the matter, I mean, you know how the game is.
Look at the shiny object. It's right over here.
Follow it. Don't look where we actually...
And the journalists allow themselves to be manipulated, especially at the New York Times and Washington Post.
And that's why it's so important to see the video, to see the lips moving.
That's why I do what I do.
And it's a method that used to be more frowned upon.
I think it's more appreciated now.
And I think it's going to be much more – it's going to broaden its appeal to thousands of people because, like I keep saying this, they can stop one man.
They can probably shut me down, turn me into a martyr, although that will backfire.
But they can't stop – They can't stop a thousand, ten thousand.
That's what they're really afraid of.
They're really afraid of the people, just like that scene in Gladiator with Russell Crowe and the Emperor.
They're really afraid of the people.
And that's what's happening, I think.
It's backfiring. Everything's backfiring on them, in my opinion.
I think so. You know, the pendulum is overcorrected so far.
I see that. And I say it all the time on this show.
I say, you know, if it's just Trump going out there by himself, you know, they can take him out.
They can take out the most powerful guy in the world.
If one person's taking all the slings and arrows...
You know, you spread that out over half of America, 175 million people, all of a sudden it's not so easy.
It changes the dynamic.
So if you're the only guy out there, yeah, sure, they can figure out a way to take out the one guy.
If you've got thousands of people sort of independently out there doing this, you know, it changes the dynamic entirely.
Yep, it does. And I think that they're afraid of the people doing this in Moss.
O'Keefe Media Group, if you click on the upper right hand of the screen, you can scroll down and become a journalist and we will ship you cameras.
We're shipped out hundreds of cameras to people across the country.
In fact, someone just broke a story in Miami last week with Anthony Fauci and NIH. Someone recorded a convention and Think of it like Uber for journalism, dispatching cameras to people and dispatching people to places where they can record.
That's what they're afraid of.
It's very hard in today's world to do the right thing.
I tweeted out recently, they hammer you into submission.
If you stand tall and proud, they just want to hammer anybody into submission to get in line.
So the time is right now.
And if you're watching this and you're thinking, oh, I don't want to do what James does.
I have a family and I'm concerned about my job.
This isn't for everybody, but I think increasingly you have to make a decision.
Are you willing to follow your conscience?
Is it all about the paycheck for you?
Or are you willing to do the right thing?
That's what we're here for.
That's what OMG is here for.
That's what I'm here for.
I'm here for people who want to follow their conscience and do the right thing.
And I think there's a lot more people out there that feel that way now than there used to be.
A hundred percent. And I imagine you're going to get a lot of people that are watching this that are interested because so many people on this show, I even see it in the comments here, what can we do?
How can we help? Well, this may be a way.
I mean, if you're entrenched in some of these organizations, if you're a conservative stuck in one of these woke corporations and you feel like you're getting trampled on, you can think whatever you want, the radical leftist side, you can be the most crazy person in the world.
And You'll be fine at HR, but if you're a God-fearing Christian in some of these corporations, I feel like you'd be thrown out in two seconds.
It's like, guess what? You guys can be a part of this.
Because I know enough people that, you know, they've tried to get along.
They've tried to put it, but every value that they have is being trampled on.
And I think so many of them are going to hit a breaking point.
So, you know, guys, go check it out. Go sign up with James.
And, you know, if you're at that point where you have something interesting to give,
this could be your way of helping and more importantly, fighting back.
But, you know, I would.
I would put it back on your audience, too, when they say, how can I help you?
I mean, I get that message a hundred times a day, literally.
I mean, emails, how can I help you?
I can't be...
I mean, it's not scalable.
I'll just be interviewing people all day long, and I certainly can't put everyone on my payroll.
I would say, what can you do to help?
That's that cliche from JFK. What can you do to help the mission?
And I was talking to this guy recently, and he said, well, I don't...
I don't know. And I said, what are you passionate about?
He said, well, I hate what's happening in the schools here.
He happened to be from Utah.
And I said, well, have you gone to your local school board meeting?
He says, I didn't know that I could do that.
And I said, yes, you can. So I would say make an attempt to figure out an area of society, perhaps something that you're passionate about.
For me, it was always media.
I was always very passionate about The lack of – the bias and the lack of fact-finding in journalism.
So I started a college newspaper at Rutgers where I went to school because I was passionate about that and I turned my righteous indignation into action.
So for all of you out there thinking, well, I don't – how can I help James?
I would say how can – what do you think you can do?
I'll help you do it, but you got to do your homework wherever you live, whatever institution you want to investigate.
If you have an idea, let me help make that happen.
I would say that's the mission of OMG. Well, 100%.
I mean, listen, by the way, I think you nailed it.
Listen, I think so many of the breaking stories, it's like you get people to go on dates with other people, and that's when they spill the beans.
But I think you nailed a certain subject when you talked about school boards.
There's so much insanity going on, and I think...
People can turn a blind eye to some of the wokeness and stuff like that.
So I think the school board sort of approach is number one.
When people talk about elections, I was like, hey, get elected to your school board.
I think we can do so much more not letting our children be indoctrinated for 20 years than you can running for Congress or something like that.
So people can start small, but that is definitely, to me, that'd be a number one place.
And it's also where just...
It feels like the extremists are lurking.
So I think there's so much opportunity there.
The stories I hear all over the place are so bad, and yet many of them will go unexposed because no one's in there doing that.
Well, it's that you don't mess with the mama bears.
That's the thing in society.
You don't mess with the children.
You don't mess with the kids.
So increasingly, it's like, where do you find consensus in this country where everything's so political and so tribal?
Everything's now become so politicized.
I don't agree with that.
I understand it's reality.
It's a lack of integrity.
It's just everything's is whose tribe you're in, who you're voting for.
It's like, well, there's one area where actually, I think 88% of people, I say 88,
because I have to account for, you know, whatever 8% of the communists out there,
extreme, whatever they call themselves.
But 88% of Americans, you don't mess with our underage daughter.
I think that's a fair observation.
So that's a great area to go expose.
Go to these... Drag reading hours and just see what you find.
It doesn't mean you have to publish it.
Ask questions. Who's behind that?
What's going on? I mean, all that's separating you from doing that, the people out there in the comments, the only thing separating you from doing that is yourself.
Overcome your fear and just go do it.
Leave our kids alone.
And again, you would have thought years ago, a couple years ago, that would have been a 100% issue.
And yet there's plenty of Democrats that are fine with this indoctrination and this sexualization of our children.
It's truly scary.
So yeah, that's another place you guys check it out.
The Joe Biden White House did condemn...
I don't know what to call him.
I'm calling him boobies guy.
I mean, they condemn that.
I thought that was interesting that they actually were shamed by that.
They didn't embrace it.
Well, it took them a little while, but, you know, this is from the White House that told us they were going to bring decency back to the White House.
Turns out that was a major fail.
But, yeah, no, it's nuts.
But I love that as a place to start.
So, you know, you can't give away all your secrets, obviously, or maybe you will in sort of the class for the people that you're teaching how to do this.
But how do you get all these different people from all these different investigations to go on dates?
Because that seems like...
The big stories, they're there sort of under the premise of it being a date.
Do these people ever fall in love with the undercover journalists?
What are the strategies to getting in there and breaking those big stories?
Well, shameless plug, yes, we will be revealing a lot of these things in those classes.
I'm calling it O'Keefe Academy.
We've already filmed one on ethics.
Ethics is the most important because you've got to have integrity.
We don't sleep with people to get information.
We don't record in people's bedrooms.
Those sorts of things. There are lines we don't cross and sometimes it's hard to know if you're starting out what the ethics boundaries are.
But we get information from people in every possible way you can imagine.
I mean, you imagine it, we get the information.
We've met some of our subjects in airports, in TSA lines.
We've met our subjects because they'll send us a cold message.
It's unlikely that a government agent would just send me a signal message.
That's highly unlikely. In most of those cases, they're trying to set me up.
As you can imagine, people are always trying to set me up.
Just two months ago, an FBI guy sent me a bizarre message saying that it was perfectly fine to record FBI agents, but it was not okay to be recording those union officials in the teachers union.
That didn't make any sense, and it was an immediate red flag.
Yeah. Yes, some of our girls do meet with subjects over various dating apps.
And sometimes it's challenging to have one, two, three, four meetings without even touching the person.
But they'll have to create an alibi or a reason why it makes sense that they don't kiss or touch a few dates.
And oftentimes undercover work is about finding what someone needs We're good to go.
Many, many, many more of these lessons.
I'm just covering the 30-second version.
We'll be covered in these classes that you can sign up for on O'KeefeMediaGroup.com.
You pay to subscribe.
You'll get access to this, and we'll certify people in being undercover journalists.
Very exciting thing that's happening next month.
Well, that sounds awesome. So I'd like to ask you about, you know, you had a good friendship with Andrew Breitbart, you know, someone who definitely, you know, changed a lot of the landscape of journalism, someone who was unafraid and tried to be discredited.
I think, you know, one of the institutions now that's actually doing some real journalism work.
What influence did that friendship with Andrew Breitbart have on your career and your trajectory?
Because it seems like that would be a big, big part of it.
I mean Andrew was a force of nature and he died March 1, 2012, so some 13 years ago.
He was tweeting constantly.
He was transcribing things.
He was running his company. He was the face of the company.
Him and I were very different in many respects.
I was at the time, and even today, slightly more introverted.
And he was more extroverted.
That's hard to believe. I've seen you chasing people down the streets.
But I get it. There's a persona on stage and there's a persona off stage.
So it changes. Yeah, I mean, I'm kind of a performer in the sense that that's that part of me, that justice part of me that's performing to expose this topic.
But generally speaking, you know, I don't necessarily derive my energy from shaking hundreds of people's hands, like many people in politics do.
But Andrew was this larger than life presence and he was able to hold media accountable
while also being friendly with journalists, which is very difficult to do.
It's a very difficult balance to strike.
I would say he was one of my mentors, particularly when it came to how the media operates.
Now the media has changed, Don, since Andrew was alive.
When Andrew was alive, when I knew him between 2009 and 2012,
people had conversations with each other.
Like he would actually talk to Dave Weigel at Slate and the Washington Post.
Yeah, there was a pretense of objectivity.
There's a pretense of honesty and that feels like it's gone, right?
There's no more conversations anymore.
I mean, everyone's in their own camp and has a defense posture.
Twitter is more robust than it used to be.
You're kind of preaching to your audience.
So in the media landscape that Andrew...
Yeah.
was how the media ecosystem worked.
And he could like sort of post something to Drudge, this is in 2010,
and then suddenly everyone was talking about it.
So it was just, I was able to observe, it was almost like a virus.
The content that you put on the internet would spread in this wildfire way.
And he really understood that in a way that no one I've ever, ever met since understands.
However, the world is changing.
And if Andrew was alive to see it, he would have had to evolve with the changing media that's evolving as well.
So you talk about being a showman.
I want to get to Acorn one second, but you talked about being a showman.
Explain to us your obsession with show tunes.
It's actually something I think you share a little bit in common with my father, who loves a lot of that theatrical musicals and stuff like that.
I got to hear a little bit about this and where it came from.
Well, I don't know where it came from.
God, my parents aren't into musical theater.
I saw... When I was 15, I saw Little Shop of Horrors in high school, and I don't know why, because I didn't like the movie version with Rick Moranis very much, but I saw the Off-Broadway version, and I don't know why, but I resonated with Seymour.
So I tried out for The Wiz, and then I tried out for George Gershwin's Crazy For You, and I, at 18 years old, got the leading role, Bobby Child, in George Gershwin's Crazy For You.
So I was tap dancing and singing and dancing around.
And everyone came to watch it.
This is my high school colleagues.
And their mouth dropped because is that the same James O'Keefe that sits in the back of math class?
That's a different human being.
So why does that matter and what does this have to do with anything about exposing corruption in the truth?
Because I think and some people may not understand this, but I think in order to seek what is true, I mean, truth, talent.
Roseanne Barr told me this recently.
Talent is truth. Excellence is truth.
The good, the true, and the beautiful.
It's an artistic thing, not a political thing.
There can only be one reality.
There can only be one truth. So I think being an artist, being a performer, has helped me immensely.
In my storytelling, in my pursuit of what's right and what's true.
And frankly, some of the people that work with me have this background and more power to them because you have to be an improvisational actor to go meet with someone undercover and think of all these creative elicitation ideas.
So I think there's a lot in common with performing and truth-seeking.
Well, I agree.
And I get it a little bit myself because it's like you give me a mic and a lot of people in an audience and I can go for an hour.
But like on my own, I'm actually sort of a recluse.
So it's it's hard to sort of juxtapose those two things.
But I do know you have a hard out.
So I do have to ask. We touched on Acorn a little bit.
But when you look back on that experience, I mean, literally, you know, dressing as a pimp, going to get funds to start a brothel.
You know, when you broke that story, what do you remember about the experience?
What did you learn from it? It was, I mean, hilarious and so extreme and yet almost perfect in that this was one of these just corrupted institutions that you could actually do that and people, you know, you could have been considered serious because that's basically what they were doing.
I wrote a book about this called Breakthrough.
It became a New York Times bestseller.
I wrote it 12 years ago.
I didn't eat for a week because I was a one-man band.
Hannah was my colleague, but I didn't have any producers or any editors.
So I produced the videos.
I stayed up all night, and then I would release them.
So I think I was very skinny at the time, but I lost an additional eight pounds to whatever meat I had on my bones.
So if you look at images of me...
From 2009, I looked like a prisoner of war.
I mean it was really bad.
And I remember CNN called me – I remember the day.
It was September 10, 2009.
CNN called my phone 70 times.
And Andrew Breitbart said, don't pick up the phone.
They're just going to personalize.
They're going to make advice. So I followed his advice and I did not give a single interview.
And they were unable to personalize it about me.
It became about the stuff in the video.
And then we released the videos one at a time.
And we still do that to this day.
We release them one at a time. Hint, hint, next week they'll be one at a time.
And they'll say, well, that's just an isolated incident.
They're so tempted to say, well, that's just one person doing that fraudulent act.
Yeah. And then you release more tapes and then more tapes and then more tapes.
So you kind of have to play – you have to be guerrilla in not only how you obtain the information but guerrilla in how you release the information.
And I kind of knew that because I had done some lesser stories like some Planned Parenthood videos and some things in college.
I knew it intuitively but to live it and to see the Washington Post – Carol Lenning at the Washington Post say that I'm racist.
For investigating ACORN. It was like, I was so shocked and appalled by that state.
She had to print a correction, by the way.
Front page. But nobody ever remembered that part.
Well, now that's like the easy button of the political left.
Like, everything's racist.
Humor is racist. Life is racist.
You can't have a comment that's not racist unless...
But it hurt.
And how could it not, you know?
By the way, then it was 100%.
That was, you know, before it was used on everything that they just don't like, right?
I think that Carol Lenning's implication was, this is the report at the Washington Post, that ACORN registers black people to vote.
James O'Keefe investigated ACORN. Therefore, James O'Keefe doesn't want black people to vote.
It was like so...
Stupid. And then we got a correction.
But I remember feeling – I remember it affected me.
All this stuff – this is 15 years ago.
It really, really affects you.
It's hard to eat. It's hard to sleep.
And it took me about – I want to say five years, six, seven years before.
It wasn't until probably that investigation in Democracy Partners when I met you that I really, really got over it.
I'm like, you know what? I don't really care what they say about me.
If it's not true, I'm going to focus on what I can control.
Yeah, mine ended when they called me a traitor to our country with the Russia-Russia hoax, when I'm like, I don't even understand.
At that point, you know, that was brutal initially.
And then, you know, luckily for me, I guess I got some of the Trump genes.
I just got hardened to it.
And I was like, okay, now we fight.
And, you know, ever since then, you know, they do it to me daily.
And it's like... It should bother me more.
I'm not saying that's the normal emotional response.
I'm not saying it's right.
I'm just saying I'm probably blessed to be able to compartmentalize it that way because if it did get to you the way that it did initially, like it appears like it got to you initially, it'd be pretty hard to get through the day.
Yeah, it was difficult, and I consider myself a relatively fearless person who doesn't focus on the secondary effects or the defamation on Wikipedia.
But I'm human, and we all are.
And for a good person to do this, unless you're a masochist or some type of sicko, for a good person, it's really hard.
And all I can say is let's...
Band of brothers bind together.
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Stay tuned. Well, James, thank you so much for that.
By the way, if there's one thing, one theme that I'm seeing just in the comments, if I'm looking down, it's because I'm looking at the comments.
It's that, you know, my watchers, they think you're a hero.
I've seen that pop up dozens of times.
So keep up the good work, guys.
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Because we need guys doing what James is doing.
So thanks so much, James, for being here.
Really appreciate you. Good luck with all of it.
And we will get you back on here soon because I'm looking forward to what this big breaking story is.
I'm sure we will cover it next week.
But now, guys, we still have some...
Breaking news to cover.
A lot's happened, obviously, in the last couple of days.
Things I take rather personally.
My father, your favorite president, was arraigned in Miami as part of Joe Biden's latest attempt at election interference.
Guys, I don't think it's going to work.
I see the poll numbers. I see the rapid response numbers.
People are understanding what's going on.
They see the pylon.
They see what's happening and how they're trying to take out Not just the leading political opposition to the regime in charge, but the leading opposition to the Uni Party, to permanent Washington.
And the American people get it.
I think the people doing this are gonna regret it.
When we send President Trump back to the White House in 24.
So I have no doubt that we'll succeed.
Just look at how normal people reacted, because I think that's really important.
Normal people.
Not permanent Washington, D.C. Not, you know, Rachel Maddow and fake Tapper and the people on CNN in their little echo chambers.
We refuse to cover this because Trump's lying.
You know, like, they didn't lie when they were talking about Russia, Russia, Russia for six years.
You know, fake tapper, he broke a couple of the stories about me.
I showed them where they were wrong, and they still wouldn't retract it.
Even months later, when it was in the Mueller report, they didn't retract it.
You know, it was good for clicks, so they leave it up there.
But look at how normal people reacted at a very famous Cuban restaurant in Miami on Tuesday.
There was so much love, again, that CNN's fake tapper...
Ordered the control room to cut away because, you know, they can't show you that part.
Trump's an evil dictator despot.
Not the guy that's actually an evil dictator despot who's trying to lock up the political opposition, just so we're clear.
So check out this from Fake Tapper on CNN. Whatever this spectacle is that's unfolding before us, let's remember what this case is about.
Let's remember what this indictment charges.
Again, Donald Trump is charged with a series of federal felonies for mishandling the most sensitive government documents that we have, and for obstruction of justice, along with Walt Nauta.
Who is charged with intentionally setting up lies to the grand jury, to the FBI. Any way you look at this, and again, despite whatever may be going on in that restaurant, this case isn't going to be settled legally in a cafe.
It's going to be settled in the court based on the facts and law.
The folks in the control room, I don't need to see any more of that.
He's trying to turn this into a spectacle, into a campaign ad.
That's enough of that. We've seen it already.
Oh, a campaign ad.
Right, right, a campaign ad.
Because, again, the people of Miami, very disproportionately Cuban, Venezuelan, people who have escaped the regimes, the kinds of regimes that lock up their political opposition.
That's what they left.
So if they show love for my father, the next day was his birthday, they're singing happy birthday to him, it's because they've seen this show before.
So fake tapper Can talk about those things, and he can try to separate the reality, what people are seeing, what they've seen for now, you know, the better half of a decade, going against Trump.
How many of the conspiracy theories that they talked about, about Trump, end up being proven wrong?
About 100%.
It's not just Jake. Even Trump hater Frank Luntz understands that this is backfiring on Democrats bigly.
Check it out. Changed the dynamic.
Massively changed the narrative.
And unless they're able to put it back, then Trump absolutely, absolutely is a credible candidate.
And yes, he could win.
And my challenge to those people watching right now is that it's up to the news media, it's up to networks like this, and it's up to the prosecution to understand how voters think and feel.
Because if they don't, they will actually help Trump succeed.
So let me get this straight. The prosecution has to change their tactics to sway popular opinion.
I thought it was a legal system.
They're supposed to, right?
Because we know what it's all about, folks.
He's saying the quiet parts out loud.
They all have to adjust.
Trump's not changing the narrative.
Trump's not controlling the narrative.
They're going after him with bullshit.
It's so ridiculous that even the haters are saying it's ridiculous.
It's so contrived that everyone's seeing it.
If they didn't do that, if they just left them alone, that wouldn't be happening.
But there's even Trump haters out there that are saying, and I agree with many of them, like, hey, man, I don't really, you know, I don't want to be Trump.
I want to move on from that.
I don't like some of the this, that, and the other, whatever it may be.
But they're saying now there's too much at stake.
It's too important.
We need him in there to get rid of permanent Washington.
He's the only one that will do it.
That's evidenced by what's happening in the Republican primary polls.
Everyone else is dropping down because people understand that every single other person in there is just going to do What the establishment tells them.
They say all these things on TV, but then they fold.
You see it happen time and time again.
That's the politics of where we are.
And it's hard not to look at the politics in this case.
This is the current president arresting the leading opponent.
You know, when Vladimir Putin does that...
We are very vocal about it.
Fake Tapper, Mad Cow, all of those people, they go nuts.
And yet, they're strangely silent.
The media, who would be all over these things, when it happens in third world countries, we're talking about invasion to prevent it from happening anymore.
And yet, when it happens right here, Crickets.
Politics are even a presence in the legal team prosecuting my father.
In case you didn't know, you remember Karen Gilbert?
We mentioned her on Miami.
That's the prosecutor in Miami that Kash Patel and I discussed, right?
Here's a refresher if you missed it.
Karen Gilbert, an AUSA who I tried cases against in Miami when I was a federal public defender, was a 20-year prosecutor down there, is the deputy special counsel to Jack Smith.
She's his Weissman. It's important.
Don't listen to me. Don't listen to you.
Go pull the Ali Shagan case from 2009.
Karen Gilbert is the head of the narcotics unit at the Miami U.S. Attorney's Office, the number one prosecutor.
And you know what she does? She authorizes an illegal wiretap of the defense attorney talking to the investigator during the prosecution of that case.
And forget about reprimands and unethical conduct.
The district court judge in that case Issued a blistering opinion and was about to throw her out of the Justice Department before what?
She was reassigned out of that position and years later promoted through the ranks.
And now this same prosecutor is on the team charging Donald J. Trump while at the same time, I find it ironic, this prosecutor went before a federal judge to break attorney-client privilege.
She's got a track record.
Guys, just in case you missed it on Monday, the interview with Cash was incredible.
You should check it out. So much more detail on Jack Smith, on Karen, typical, right?
You can check it out there.
It's on Rumble, or I know Rumble will actually put the podcast up on Spotify and iTunes, usually two, three days later.
So you can check it out there as well.
So if you can't watch, you can listen while you're driving or whatever.
So check it out on Apple or Spotify.
But To continue this thought, it turns out that Karen, she's not only corrupt, but she's reportedly a Biden donor.
Yes, folks, you heard this right.
The prosecutor in Miami leading the investigation against Joe Biden's biggest political opponent is a Joe Biden donor.
Seems like that's totally legit, folks.
Totally fine, right?
We discussed sort of the, let's just say, loose ethics that Gilbert's conducted herself with in the past.
Same with Jack Smith.
Jack Smith apparently doesn't even reside in the United States right now.
I think he lives in the Netherlands.
But, you know, he's the guy they're going to bring in to go after Trump because he's a war crimes prosecutor with a shady track record who will apparently do anything to Including, let's just say, bend or break the rules to get his guy.
Gilbert is apparently a long-time Democrat donor.
Congressman Matt Gaetz revealed on Tuesday that Gilbert has, quote, made thousands of dollars in donations to Biden for president, Obama for America, the DNC, the Democrat National Committee Victory Fund, And the Obama Victory Fund, according to FEC records, which confirm all of this.
Honestly, guys, how does a case like this even move forward?
You really think that someone like this, or Jack Smith with his record and his wife producing the Michelle Obama documentary, do we really believe That between that and the ethical issues they've had in their past, that they could prosecute a case even a little bit objectively?
How can someone who's clearly a Biden backer be allowed to prosecute Biden's biggest political rival?
How is that possible?
This whole thing is a joke and a sick one at that.
They care so little about keeping this country together, about the rule of law, about the Constitution, that they don't even hide it when they're clearly acting in a corrupt fashion.
This is a political persecution to take out their opponent at all costs.
Joe Biden, we hear it all the time.
He talks about unity, right?
Then he disparages, you know, 75 million Americans, you know, in the next sentence because he's an imbecile and a moron.
But are you guys starting to feel the unity yet?
Are you feeling united?
Because I'm not. I've seen...
Everything but unity.
I've seen everything but attempted unity.
I've seen the vilification of half of the voting populace on a daily basis.
While giving a platform to the most radical, insane people out there.
That's what I've seen from this administration.
And get this, during the 8pm hour of Fox on Tuesday, you know, the lower third, the little chyron, banner read, wannabe dictator speaks at the White House after having his political rival arrested.
Actually seems pretty accurate to me, but of course, Fox actually caved to the outrage.
They probably fired, you know, the young conservative intern that did that, thinking that that would make sense on conservative TV, and released a statement.
The chyron was taken down immediately and was addressed.
In other words, that wasn't the feeling of Fox.
They're probably just fine with it.
Probably just fine with it because they're all about permanent Washington.
Just look at the people they fired in the last few weeks.
We'll understand exactly where they stand.
So, Joe Biden certainly acts like a wannabe dictator.
For example, Biden was finally asked about the alleged tapes revealing that he took bribes.
Look at his response.
Are there tapes that you accepted bribes, President Biden?
Is that true? Guys, he laughs.
He's laughing at you, at us, at every American who thinks that maybe, just maybe, we shouldn't have a president that takes bribes in the White House.
Again, folks, like, just use logic and reason for a second.
Do you really think that China gave Hunter Biden billions of dollars like a crackhead?
You think they didn't figure that out in their diligence process?
Or do you think they did it precisely because they could influence the U.S. government?
Same with Ukraine and the no-show jobs and the Russian oligarchs and all the money that came in to this guy who hadn't done anything seemingly before.
Magically, he's making millions.
Only in the places where Joe Biden has a little bit of say, control, or power.
The Shell entities are formed within minutes of Joe becoming VP, and they're off to the races.
Huh, yeah. He's laughing because he's never faced consequences.
He's laughing because he probably will never face consequences.
He's confident that he won't.
Biden was asked again today about the corruption, right?
There's someone that's saying...
That Biden himself is on tape twice and Hunter is 15 times.
Shocking, right?
Imagine how much more there is that probably isn't on tape.
I imagine it's too numerous to count.
But watch today.
The same indignation.
How dare you ask?
That's a dumb question according to Biden.
Imagine if it was about a Republican taking this kind of money.
Imagine the things that were said about my father when they were pushing Russia, Russia, Russia, that hoax for five years.
None of it was indignation.
It was gospel.
It was fact. It certainly happened.
Now that we know it didn't, and it's reversed, and it's clear, because that's the Democrat tactic, accuse others of doing what you're actually doing, watch what he had to say.
Thank you so much.
Why did the U.S. pray to the FBI's format file refer to U.S.? Thank you very much.
Why did I ask the wrong question?
Just look at how brazen he is with the alleged crimes.
It turns out that Biden's 2017 tax return includes a mysterious entity he owns called the Celtic Capri Group.
This entity lists a $10 million sum.
What sort of business was Joe Biden doing that could garner him $10 million?
I think we know. I think we know, folks, because we've seen Joe Biden on the stage, and it's not like he's racking up points for being a great public speaker.
The Federalists just reported that the Bidens allegedly coerced a foreign national to pay them $10 million in bribes.
Huh, where have we seen that $10 million number before?
Huh. I'm wondering.
House Republicans are trying to investigate now, but they're stonewalling at every turn.
This is whenever I have the members of the House on the show, I ask them, what are you going to do to stop them from stonewalling you?
They're trying to run out the clock.
They're trying to make sure they get through November 2024.
After that, they can throw Biden under a bus.
They don't care. But they're going to do whatever they can to prevent it.
That's why the November 2024 election is so important.
We need to get this crook out of office.
We need to appoint a real special prosecutor to find out what the hell is going on with the Biden crime family.
Also, what the heck is going on with the FBI? They've been sitting on this information for how long?
I think, what, 2017?
They knew it was out there.
They impeached my father for asking a question about it.
But they knew it was actually happening, and strangely, they didn't say a word.
Huh. I wonder why.
I wonder why that is, folks.
I don't think any of us believe in coincidence anymore.
Would we have ever even known about it if the Republicans didn't win the House?
We need to clean house at the DOJ and the FBI, obviously.
If they'll sit on that, what won't they sit on, right?
These are the same people that accused concerned mothers at PTA meetings of being domestic terrorists, so let's stop giving them the benefit of the doubt.
They don't deserve even a little bit of it.
Democrats don't care about actual crime.
In fact, it's just the opposite.
They'd rather protect the criminals and jail those who are trying to stop them.
Because, get this, Daniel Penny, who intervened on a New York subway back in May to save those who were being violently threatened by a career criminal and mental illness patient, I guess, or The people that were there and were witnesses said that...
Penny was a hero, and yet he was indicted on one count each of criminally negligent homicide and second-degree manslaughter, and he faces up to 15 years in prison.
The guy who stopped the criminal is the one that's being charged.
It's absolute madness, guys.
And that's why it's so important to be involved.
We can't allow this to be the norm.
It's why they want to disarm Americans.
It's why they want to take out good Samaritans like Daniel Penny who will stand up for the weaker and for the afraid, who has not only the ability but the courage to do so.
They want you to be a victim.
They want you to be afraid.
They want you to not act.
Don't let that happen in our country, folks.
That's why the stakes could not be higher.
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