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April 27, 2023 - Triggered - Donald Trump Jr

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Pro-Trump Twitter Icon Catturd Comes Out of the Litter Box for an Exclusive Interview | Ep. 24

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	Good evening and welcome to another episode of Triggered.
	Thank you guys again for joining us.
	Today we're interviewing—this is a first for Triggered, probably a first for a lot of—we're interviewing a faceless guest.
	We're interviewing Twitter sensation Cat Turd.
	Political provocateur, meme lord, amongst other things, but someone who's done an incredible job amassing an incredible following on social media and doing so in a faceless manner.
	So after this, I'm sure the left will be out there trying to dox Cat Turd, but it is amazing
	That someone with a faceless meme can basically generate this much insanity and drive the left so crazy.
	But before we get to Cat Turd, before we have some fun, today I actually put up all the questions because it's actually fascinating to sort of watch.
	As I promoted Cat Turd being on here, I'm seeing more sort of response in the live chat than
	For, like, anyone I've had on.
	I've had, you know, the Speaker of the House, Congressmen, Senators, this kind of stuff.
	And I'm seeing it blow up like never before.
	So, you know, Cat Turd has gotten to them.
	He's a sensation.
	And I think we'll have a lot of fun with this one.
	But I'm going to go to the live stream a lot and see where you guys are going with this.
	And, you know, let's just have some fun.
	But before we do that,
	A quick rundown of the top headlines.
	We've all seen the backlash that Budweiser is facing over the trans marketing scheme.
	The internet melted down over Bud Light's marketing engagement with transgender internet celebrity named Dylan Mulvaney.
	Probably, like,
	The biggest person, like, celebrity paid spokesperson in the world right now and no one understands or could fathom why, especially for female brands like Nike sports bras.
	That's the world in which we live today.
	But, guys, people are pissed, and justifiably so.
	Anheuser-Busch is an iconic American company.
	This is Budweiser, you know, with the Clydesdales and with the football and bald eagles and, you know, the Bud Bowl and, like, real men of genius.
	This is where they were.
	So what are they doing?
	What on earth are they doing with a trans TikToker in a bathtub?
	It's bizarre.
	Is this a one-off colossal screw-up or is it something bigger?
	This could be
	Just the act of one rogue, woke lunatic in a marketing department filled with leftist staffers.
	The Daily Wire is now reporting that no one at the senior level of Anheuser-Busch was aware of the partnership with
	Dylan Mulvaney.
	That makes sense.
	And I saw a little bit about that.
	Charlie Kirk was talking about it.
	My friend and friend of the show was talking about it the other day.
	So I decided to look in on it.
	I had my team get into the details.
	And we looked into the political giving and lobbying history of Anheuser-Busch.
	And guess what?
	They actually support Republicans!
	In woke corporate America, Anheuser-Busch supports Republicans.
	Last cycle, their employees and their PAC gave about 60% to Republicans and 40% to Democrats.
	That's literally almost unheard of in corporate America, where it's really easy to go woke,
	Where they do so constantly, where there's a consequence to actually being a conservative.
	So 60-40 to the conservative side is kind of a big deal.
	And they actually went pretty big
	For some important races.
	For example, they went big for Kevin McCarthy's effort to take back the house and fire Nancy Pelosi.
	That's a big one!
	We had Kevin, he was the first guest on the show, and people criticized me at the time for supporting him because I knew the guys he had brought in for months prior to that and what he was gonna do.
	And honestly, I think we're looking at the results, we're seeing his favorability.
	He's delivering on the promises
	You know who else Anheuser-Busch went big for?
	They went big for J.D.
	Vance in Ohio, literally the most lit person in the United States Senate, as far as I'm concerned.
	A good friend, someone who's fighting hard, someone who's one of the few guys you'd actually want in a fight with you in the United States Senate, even on the Republican side.
	And on the lobbying front, we looked into the bills that Anheuser-Busch was working.
	You know what they're focused on, guys?
	They're focused on taxes and trade.
	Things that actually impact their business.
	They haven't done any lobbying for, like, the random pet issues of the day and the nonsense and the, you know, BLM crap.
	I didn't find that.
	They focused on the things that affect their job.
	They focused on things that affect their business and not on the things that have nothing to do with selling beer like the rest of woke corporate America does.
	That actually makes them unusual in America right now, where corporations do all the woke stuff, spend millions and sometimes billions of dollars pushing agenda that has nothing to do with their products.
	So like, that's unusual in corporate America and in a good way.
	Again, this isn't how woke companies are operating.
	So we kept digging.
	A couple years ago, a leftist organization, the so-called Human Rights Campaign, put out a letter demanding that schools let teenage boys in skirts in girls' bathrooms, something that anyone who's been watching this show understands that I would not be a fan of, nor would any father or reasonable individual who's not become a total sociopath.
	Over 300 massive companies signed on to this crap, including Pepsi, Amazon, American Airlines, General Mills, General Motors, Google, Marriott.
	I could go on and on.
	It's a who's who of corporate America.
	You know who didn't sign on to that list?
	Anheuser-Busch.
	So here's the deal.
	Anheuser-Busch totally shit the bed with this Dylan Mulvaney thing.
	I'm not, though, for destroying an American and iconic company for something like this.
	Trust me, the memes have been so good, I'm sitting there chomping, I want it.
	But when I actually look into it, I'm not going to blame the whole company for the inaction or the stupidity of someone in a marketing campaign that got woke as hell.
	The company itself doesn't participate in the same leftist nonsense as the other big conglomerates.
	Frankly, they don't participate in the same woke garbage that other people in the beer industry actually do, who are significantly worse offenders, when I looked into it.
	But, if they do this again,
	Then it's on them!
	Then screw them!
	But listen, one of the things we have to do, I like calling balls and strikes, and I love going after people when they screw up, but I think sometimes we do have the tendency of, like, shooting first and aiming second, not looking into the details, figuring it out.
	I get that, guys.
	It's easy.
	I've complained about that on this show before, which is when we do the, hey, we got you, and you know, Wuhan lab leak theory, COVID, vaccines, whatever.
	It's like two years later, we're proven right, and we dunk on them online, but they still won.
	This is like the opposite of that.
	This is one, like, we're dunking on them now, but when you actually look into it, they'd be one of the more conservative-leaning companies in America.
	They've been put on notice.
	I'm leaving them alone.
	I think you should probably do the same.
	If they do it again, they've been warned.
	But in the grand scheme of things, man, Anheuser-Busch, a lot less woke than the rest of corporate America.
	So I don't know that we want to kill the guys that are the least of the offenders than going after the guys that are worst of the offenders, like the people I read on that list earlier.
	Guys, in other news, Biden's blunders are getting worse and worse.
	Joe Biden is in Ireland right now, and the White House has a new handler for him.
	Yes, none other than Hunter Biden.
	Here's senile old Joe, completely confused by a simple question from a kid, asking,
	What is the key to success?
	Now, I'm not sure that Joe Biden knows, and if he does, it probably has to do with taking advantage of your public office and selling access and influence, because it doesn't seem like he's done anything else, and I'm not aware of any successes that the Biden family has had outside of that sphere, but they have done that very well to
	The former crackhead son apparently has a sharper mind than Joe and has to step in to help.
	Watch this clip.
	What's your question?
	What's the key to success?
	You know what I found out the key to success is?
	I'm not sure I'm the best guy to explain it.
	The key to success is, whenever you disagree with someone, it's okay to question their judgment, whether they're right or wrong.
	But it's never okay to question their motive.
	Seems convenient that Joe wouldn't want people questioning their motive.
	Especially with the billions invested into Hunter, and the no-show jobs, and the ties to Russia, Ukraine, and oligarchs, and child and human trafficking, and, you know, minor details.
	Like the stuff that I'd be in jail for, but is totally, apparently acceptable on the Biden side.
	Joe Biden, while in the UK, actually literally walked right by the Prime Minister.
	Of the UK.
	Brushed him aside to go say hi to someone else when they're greeting because it was pretty apparent he didn't even know who it was!
	The leader!
	One of the United States, if not the United States, greatest ally!
	He didn't even know who he was.
	Just like he was the help or something like that.
	It's pathetic.
	Joe Biden can't be the next president, guys.
	Republicans are rallying around President Trump.
	He's over 50% in every poll.
	And the rhino hopefuls that want Ron DeSantis probably don't stand a chance.
	Look at the types of people who are liking Ron DeSantis these days.
	There's Karl Rove.
	That's a great one.
	There's Paul Ryan, of course, you know.
	But also, his biggest donor is a billionaire named Ken Griffin.
	And let's just say, he ain't one of us, folks.
	And I understand, I'm the son of a billionaire myself.
	But Ken Griffin just gave $300 million to Harvard.
	Harvard!
	It's an unrestricted gift, on top of the $200 million he recently gave.
	So he gave a half a billion dollars, unrestricted, so Harvard can spend it on anything.
	You know, if you're a conservative, and Harvard is like the incubator for woke bullshit around the world,
	Maybe you don't want to give a half a billion dollars to an organization like that.
	Maybe if you were going to do it, you'd say, hey, make it towards conservatives or creating some sort of equality there or something.
	But no, no, no.
	A conservative would only give a gift like that to Harvard if they were completely
	A moron.
	But Ken Griffin isn't dumb.
	He's simply an establishment hack helping his own people.
	He doesn't care about blue-collar Americans and the plight that they face.
	He could care less.
	He wants to be loved by the Harvard folks, guys.
	That's Ron DeSantis' biggest donor.
	I mean, think about that.
	Griffin told Politico that by supporting Ron DeSantis, he hopes to blunt
	And I quote, the populist vein of the party.
	You want to blunt the populist vein?
	Like, the populist vein that represents the hard-working men and women of the MAGA movement?
	You want to blunt that to go back to the elites?
	Of course.
	That's why the billionaire class is loving Ron DeSantis, because they want a president that responds to them.
	They want a president that needs them and their money.
	They want that control and they want to destroy the MAGA movement.
	And since DeSantis has been slipping, whether it's the flip-flop on Ukraine where he tried taking like Trump-lite approach to it and apparently his donors or Karl Rove or Paul Ryan smacked him around a little bit and demanded he change his mind two days later after he spoke to Tucker Carlson, now they've resorted to lying.
	President Trump's interview with Tucker Carlson this week is one of the best interviews in a long time.
	Watch this deep moment where the real threat to our civilization is discussed.
	Check it out.
	That's what you're talking about.
	Um, when I listen to people talking about global warming, that the ocean will rise in the next 300 years by one-eighth of an inch, and they talk about this is our problem.
	Our big problem is nuclear warming.
	I mean, nobody even talks about it.
	The environmentalists talk about all this nonsense in many cases.
	Look, I'm an environmentalist also, I guess, in my own way, because I've done a good job with the environment, but nobody talks about nuclear.
	The problem
	The problem we have, the biggest problem we have in the whole world, it's not global warming.
	It's nuclear warming.
	And all it takes is one madman and you're going to have a problem the likes of which the world has never seen.
	And it's only a matter of seconds.
	You don't have to wait two to three hundred years for it to happen.
	So what you're saying is demonstrably true.
	Why is this not something our leaders talk about or the press talks about?
	Listen, Tucker said it best.
	He said he's the most in-tune person in America on foreign policy.
	He's the only guy that gets it.
	And maybe that's because he's not also owned by the military-industrial complex or the lunatics who want to go to the never-ending wars because that's their retirement plan and they're getting rich on it.
	But if you read the rhino media, you'd think President Trump spent the entire interview praising Gavin Newsom.
	And that's a lie.
	Check it out.
	Anybody's done a terrible job with the state.
	And yet, you have the paid influencers from the DeSantis campaign talking about him like he's the greatest.
	It's absolutely amazing.
	But guys, that's what happens when people are losing.
	They lie.
	They manipulate.
	And that's what's happening right now.
	Guys, I live in Florida.
	We also need to talk about DeSantis being absent during natural disasters.
	I came into Miami last night because I couldn't get into Fort Lauderdale because there is historic flooding in the streets.
	My car is literally still at Fort Lauderdale Airport because I couldn't get in.
	I couldn't get there to be able to get my vehicle out because I'm hoping it's not underwater but I wouldn't know because one of the major airports of America is shut down.
	And where's Ron DeSantis?
	Ron DeSantis is in Ohio instead of Fort Lauderdale amid the drastic flooding.
	Okay?
	He had two events there today.
	Guess where he's gonna be tomorrow?
	He is going to be at Liberty University.
	Now, if you're in Ohio, okay, and you do one event and there's flooding, I get it, but it happened yesterday and he's still in Ohio.
	Guess what?
	Leaders lead!
	If you have flooding in your state, I understand your ambition and the people who want to make a lot of money who are pushing you to run for president, but leaders lead!
	You get your ass on a plane and you come back and you deal with the issues, but no!
	He did the first event in Ohio, he's doing the second event in Ohio, and tomorrow he's going to Liberty University, nowhere near Florida.
	He was elected five months ago!
	Okay?
	Is this what it's going to be like in Florida for the next two years?
	Is he just going to be absent because he's running for president, and he's going to put the well-being of the people of Florida on the back burner?
	I don't know.
	I mean, leaders lead, they don't flee.
	They come back when an emergency happens, okay?
	Like, when stuff went on in Afghanistan, I'm sitting there trying to have Thanksgiving lunch with my father, and he went to go visit the troops.
	He wasn't allowed to even tell us where we're going.
	I showed up to Thanksgiving dinner, only to be like, we're not sure where he is.
	I'm like, wait a minute, you're not sure where the President of the United States is?
	Because he had to fly in under the cover of darkness, because it was the right thing to do, to be with our troops.
	What exactly is Ron DeSantis thinking?
	Well, here's what the mayor of Fort Lauderdale had to say about Ron DeSantis.
	Have you spoken with Governor DeSantis?
	Governor DeSantis has not yet called.
	I'm not sure what's going on.
	It's not sure.
	He doesn't call.
	It doesn't matter.
	No, no, no, because he's checked out.
	He's running for president.
	These are the things that you don't run for governor five months ago, telling the people that you're going to serve four years and then you're going to spend the vast majority of your term as governor on a campaign trail.
	Hey, man, I get it.
	I've been on those trails.
	But you can't do both and you can't have it both ways.
	And his advisors
	And the political elite, and the guys like Ken Griffin donating a half a billion to Harvard, they really want Ron DeSantis in there, so they're going to keep funding it, and he's going to keep not being here.
	Not the example we want to lead with, but again, don't worry.
	Mainstream media won't cover that, because they too want someone that they can control, who needs them or is afraid of them.
	That's what we get.
	We've had the Bush Dynasty, folks.
	We don't need round two of it.
	Okay, we've seen what that got us.
	And that's the Karl Roves, and the Paul Ryans, and the Ken Griffins.
	They're getting the old rhino band back together, folks.
	And that's what we're gonna be up against.
	So keep watching it, because it's a real thing.
	Like, again, I get it.
	If you're gonna go camp out, fine.
	But, like, you come back.
	But apparently they don't think that anymore.
	They've checked out.
	So in the last story before we get to internet sensation Cat Turd, Tennessee lawmakers are mocked for the antics at the state capitol.
	We'll close with this bizarre story because it's absolutely insane.
	Because there's a state Democrat lawmaker named Justin Pearson who's one of the two Tennessee state representatives who was expelled from the statehouse for storming the Capitol with a bullhorn to protest gun rights.
	Now, since then, he's been reinstated, which is what we always do as Republicans, right?
	We actually enforce the rule, then we let them back in two minutes later, and in the meantime, we've made the guy, like, an internet sensation.
	We've made him a hero from the left.
	I'm sure the leftists in Tennessee are raising tens of millions of dollars from, you know, stupid actions on the Republican part.
	But here's the interesting part of the story.
	A newly surfaced video from when he was a student at Bowdoin
	Shows him acting like a totally different person, even in a different voice, before he apparently became a radical left-wing activist and completely changed his image.
	Check it out.
	And I'm running for president of BSG.
	There are a few reasons that we're running this campaign this year.
	One has to do with representation.
	How can we represent all voices in a conversation?
	I want to do this by partnering with organizations from the voting Democrats to the voting Republicans.
	I want to bring together different voices, dissenting voices, voices that may be more liberal or more conservative, in order that we can reach a point of sort of the radical middle.
	Seems like the NRA and gun lobbyists might win!
	But oh, that was good news for us.
	I don't know how long this Saturday in the state of Tennessee might last, but oh, we have good news, folks.
	We've got good news that Sunday always comes.
	I mean, wow.
	Uh, that was a transition.
	Like, that's a bigger transition than if he did what the rest of the Democrat Party wants to do and chopped his dick off.
	Like, I've never seen a transition like that.
	Like, it's hard to believe.
	I'm sitting here with my team.
	We're laughing.
	As many times as I've seen that video, I can't get over the insanity.
	But this is the Democrat Party.
	This is like, you think AOC is any different?
	You know?
	Come on, we'll get an actress!
	We'll do this!
	We'll do it!
	We'll raise money off of it!
	We'll do whatever it takes!
	Now, he was mocked across Twitter.
	Jason Whitlock even called him Martin Luther Kaepernick, which Jason, like, that's awesome.
	That's one of the great nicknames, perhaps, of all time.
	Martin Luther Kaepernick.
	But it's true!
	The guy went to Bowdoin!
	Like, you know, now he's all of a sudden a radical.
	Like, it's amazing!
	But it's just another example of the left wing being more interested in the politics of performance instead of actually solving problems.
	They'll do this.
	There are people that believe that this guy actually believes what he's saying as opposed to, like,
	Whatever it takes to get to that next level.
	And that's the problem we face.
	For these guys, it's all a show.
	It's just another act.
	It's just another fundraising scheme.
	And honestly, not that much different than the rhinos, who pretend they're with you.
	Who will do what they can, but then...
	You start seeing the signs and you start realizing maybe they're not with you at all.
	Maybe it's just an act.
	And that's the difference, folks.
	That's the difference with Donald Trump.
	He's the one guy that doesn't need this shit.
	He didn't need the headache.
	It'd have been a lot easier.
	But he's the only guy that can get in there and burn it to the ground because that's where we need to go.
	We need to get rid of everyone and start from scratch.
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	And with that, I want to bring on Internet and Twitter sensation, Cat Turd.
	What's happening, man?
	How you doing?
	Hey, hey, hey.
	What's going on?
	I'm doing well, man.
	I'm doing well.
	So this is a first for the show.
	I've not done the faceless interview, but I understand.
	Given the side that you take, and honestly, how effective you've been at triggering the left, I totally understand why it's important to stay anonymous.
	So what do you think about some of that?
	Well, you know, I got on social media four and a half years ago, never been on social media before, and picked out the weirdest name, Cat Turd, never thought I'd get 10 followers.
	And I really don't care about being anonymous as much as people think.
	I just think it's kind of funny now.
	It drives them crazy.
	It doesn't matter to me if people really know who I am.
	It never has.
	Yeah.
	But it just, the more I do it, I think the funnier it is, you know, and the more it gets to them.
	Dude, like I said, I'm looking at the live chat and it's just absolutely lighting up.
	We love cancer.
	You've done something sort of amazing.
	So how did it happen?
	Like I said, again, I do a lot on social, but I started off with a pretty good platform.
	My father, we were on The Apprentice.
	My father became President of the United States.
	That's a pretty good place to start.
	How did it happen for you that you got this incredible
	Following, you know, what started it?
	I mean, obviously, you're not afraid to push buttons, but how do you get there?
	And how do you do it so quickly?
	I really don't know.
	But first, I want to say that we are... America has been saved today.
	I don't know if anybody knows this.
	Joe Manchin went to see Zelensky.
	We are saved.
	Oh, yeah.
	Well, he went there with... Who's the country singer?
	I don't know that.
	He sounded like a chicken on crack.
	Yeah, Paisley.
	I don't even know what his first name is.
	What's his first name?
	Brad Paisley was over there.
	He was the guy that was singing about the vaccines last time.
	So Brad Paisley goes to Ukraine.
	What the fuck does Brad Paisley have to do with a war in Ukraine?
	We're not serious people anymore.
	Brad Paisley's doing that.
	He's going to put on a concert.
	Wait, I thought it was a war zone.
	I don't understand.
	What the hell is going on?
	What's your take?
	What's the cat turd take on this one?
	Hey, your guess is as good as me.
	What kind of information do we get out that we can even believe?
	I mean, do you believe Ukraine's media, Russia media, our media?
	Well, by the way, listen, I don't know if I believe any of them, but I don't know that anyone, like, is it possible to be worse than our media, you know?
	It's not.
	I love it when CNN says, man, that Russia propaganda is terrible.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Yeah, I'm saying, man, I haven't seen, you know, the propaganda coming out of CNN would make, like, Mao and Stalin blush, and yet, like, they pretend that they're real news, and maybe that's why you've been affected.
	I mean, you do say, like, stuff that's real on there.
	You're not afraid to do it, and I think you're also good about promoting other people, not just sort of, you know, so much of the Internet stuff, you see people just stealing other people's stuff and trying to make it their own, and you've done a really good job of that, and maybe they return that favor, but, you know, again,
	How does Cat Turd become one of the biggest voices in, like, the MAGA movement?
	I have no idea.
	Like I said, I've never been on social media.
	At that time, I was 54 years old.
	I didn't even know how to use social media.
	I remember the first time I got on, I was like, how do you post a picture?
	So you're like borderline a boomer, and yet you made it in the world of social media.
	I'm impressed, man.
	I'm just an old country boy down here in the South.
	And somehow, I don't know, it just started and it started getting bigger.
	I remember telling somebody, man, I got a thousand followers fast.
	And I thought that was like, you know, I couldn't believe it.
	And then it just kept going and going and going.
	And I have no idea, it was just lightning in a bottle.
	I mean, my side is a little different than most people's.
	People just hammer political stuff.
	I do a lot of humor.
	I do a lot of serious stuff, too.
	And I don't know, it just called on.
	And it didn't hurt when your father started retweeting me.
	That's when it really, when President Trump retweeted me.
	That's when it really took off, the first time he retweeted me.
	Yeah, well, and I even saw recently, I guess, you did, like, a cat turd poll.
	And, like, my father put it out there.
	And, by the way, it's probably more accurate than, like, the other polling out there, which is insane, but, like, he put it out there, and, like, the left went insane that he retweeted this poll from cat turd.
	They went crazy.
	But what's, I mean, look, there was 250,000 people on it.
	What's more accurate, that and CNN?
	I mean, do they even call people?
	And you look at the poll and it's like 450 people.
	Trump's down 80 points.
	I mean, it's all a lie, every bit of it.
	Yeah, CNN, they called their neighbor and their lunatic leftist aunt and, you know, Trump has no chance.
	He's got zero chance of doing anything.
	So where'd you come up with the name Cat Turd?
	It was, I was on Bright Bar and I made a, there was Discuss.
	They have, that's where they talk to each other and Bright Bar is called Discuss.
	And I just was like, I'm going to get on social.
	I'm going to finally just start talking.
	You know, I don't know how to do it.
	And I just was flipping through, you know, the web and I saw the picture of the cat and they just said cat turd.
	I thought it was funny.
	I never thought I'd get a hundred followers.
	Yeah.
	And now it's, it's, it's almost like a,
	It's become like a Homer Simpson, you know?
	It's just beyond me.
	People do movies of it and this.
	And you know, I sell products on my website.
	There's a thousand fake cat turd sites on Amazon, all around the world.
	It's ridiculous.
	Are you having to do a lot of defensive maneuvering protecting the cat turd brand at this point?
	Because a lot of people are, you know, poaching that stuff.
	And I mean, I see the people calling themselves littermates.
	It's sort of amazing.
	Yeah, that's our podcast.
	You know, we started a podcast, Jules and I, I think it's been 14 months ago, and we started with zero.
	You know, we didn't have a YouTube following or a big following.
	We didn't know what the hell we were doing, and so they just kind of called themselves the Litter Mates, and we've got one of the strongest chats on Rumble.
	I mean, there's thousands
	No, like I said, I'm seeing it blow up.
	By the way, there seems to be, and by the way, I could get behind this, cat turd for press secretary for the Trump second term.
	Listen, I think this could be a huge win.
	I'm good.
	Hey, listen, anyone's more competent than the current press secretary.
	I mean, she's a fumbling idiot, but I guess that's what you get when you have Joe Biden in here.
	But talk about, did you see the Maddow meltdown?
	Because everyone keeps talking about the Maddow meltdown, just the fact that you put out the poll and DJT retweeted it and she went crazy.
	But you're getting under the skin of like, you know, some of the biggest lunatic leftists out there.
	Oh yeah, I get doxxed a thousand times a day.
	I get death threats by the thousands.
	It's crazy just because I just speak the truth, you know, and the truth hurts them bad.
	Yeah, it's sort of amazing, because it's, you know, I say that a lot on the show, and it's, you know, who would have thought that, like, chopping the genitals off a three-year-old, like, would be a fundamental part of the Democrat Party platform?
	And you say it, and they're like, oh my god!
	I'm like, but it is!
	But it is!
	And they keep doing this stuff, so telling the truth hurts.
	I guess it's why they go after me, but I guess it's also why, perhaps, I've been able to build up a decent following myself.
	Yeah, you've got a few.
	I think you've got three or four.
	Yeah.
	But does the kids have a chance these days that go to government school?
	I mean, they go to government school.
	They take them when they're four years old, five years old.
	They teach them, hey, the very air you breathe is poison.
	Wear a mask.
	Hey, the Earth's going to explode because of cow farts.
	We're all going to die in 12 years.
	Hey, we're going to separate you.
	Critical race theory.
	And, you know, the whites over here, the blacks, this, this, and this group sucks.
	And this group's
	I don't
	Yeah, and beyond that, it's like, you know, the drag queen story hour is like a thing of the week.
	I have five kids, like, story hour's not even that big a deal.
	Like, you know, it happens occasionally in school.
	I have five kids, like, gone to a couple of them, but like, when did, like, drag queens decide to take over the entire notion of story hour?
	Like, are you telling me that's not
	Like, a contrived thing that you're telling me that wasn't a plan?
	You know, and all the lunatics, like, who cares about drag queens?
	I'm like, well, why do drag queens need an audience of young children?
	Why?
	Like, I don't care.
	Like, do your thing, but, like, you need an audience of young children?
	That's where I have a serious, serious problem.
	And yet, you know, like, we're supposed to say it's totally normal.
	Like, what's the endgame?
	I mean, I think we all know what it is, but it's sick.
	Well, yeah.
	And I'm just like everyone else.
	I don't know anybody that don't care what anybody does.
	When you're 21, it's a free country.
	I don't care if you go to a drag show every day of your life.
	Who cares?
	Yeah.
	But that's not what's happening.
	They're going after children.
	Yeah, they're banning books, I mean...
	It's lunacy.
	For me, again, that one hits home.
	I fought hard on this one.
	When you're an adult, I'm not about putting up rules for people.
	I don't care.
	It's not my thing, but do what you want.
	I got a serious problem with what's going on right now with what they're doing to their children.
	I have a serious problem with what they're trying to do with these biological men in women's sports.
	I've got two daughters.
	One happens to be a phenomenal athlete.
	It's lunacy, and I've been so outspoken on this for so long, and again, perhaps why I have a following.
	Where are the rest of the Republican Party?
	They don't say, like, we're all in on this issue, because there's plenty of, you know, moderate Democrats out there, but I don't know any moderate Democrat in America that's not lost their minds and isn't part of sort of the D.C.
	bubble that thinks that this is a good idea, and yet they continue to push it and run with it, and woke corporate America goes totally all in on it.
	You know, how do you recommend we push back?
	Well, I mean, we did kind of with Bud Light, right?
	They lost $6.5 billion, and that's how you have to do it.
	You have to make it so toxic for these people to do this that they just don't want to do it anymore.
	Like you said, I mean, come on, I'm from the South.
	Let's face it, Budweiser made all their money.
	All these years, and mainly from southern rednecks, that's what they drink Budweiser.
	It is up here in Budweiser.
	They drink Budweiser.
	They're doing heavies and the women drink the lights, but well that was the thing.
	I don't know if you heard my opening monologue talking about that.
	It turns out they're actually pretty conservative in terms of donations, so
	Like, one person in a company can cost you like five billion dollars in market cap?
	Like, that's scary because, you know, everyone thinks they're, you know, they're stunning and brave if you post this bullshit that goes totally against your thing.
	And like I said, you know, in looking at it, it seems like no one higher up was aware of it.
	They actually donate to conservatives.
	But this has become pervasive.
	I saw, you know, Jack Daniels
	Had a drag queen ad last week.
	Nike, like Dylan Mulvaney is like the most sponsored human being in the world for female brands.
	And I'm like, like, where, Cat Turd, where are the feminists?
	Where are the women that went to soccer games for their children for decades watching, you know, a triple header of T-Ball painfully?
	Where are they speaking out about this issue?
	It's so anti-women.
	There's nothing I can think of more anti-women as a grown man, swimmer at six, seven.
	I mean, as soon as he jumps in the pool, he's halfway across the pool and then he beats these people and it's just cheating and everybody knows it.
	And when it stops, it's kind of like when COVID stopped, when everybody stopped participating in it and everybody stopped wearing masks, everybody went back to work, is when these people get booed everywhere they go and the women are starting to fight back.
	Yeah, I'm seeing someone talk about Riley Gaines, like, she's done that, and then she can get attacked by trans activists, and the school leaders, well, you know, she provoked it, like, there's always an excuse for these people, like, there's no accountability, and yet, you know, Riley Gaines, what's interesting is, like, they had an exact tie with the dude, Leah Thomas, an exact tie, like, to the hundredth of a second, and they're like, yeah, we're just giving the
	It's cheating.
	It's cheating.
	So, you know, I hope that we wake up, like, women in America.
	I hope we actually get the feminists.
	I think it's almost crazy that in 2023, Donald Trump Jr., with the shit that I post and the stuff that I say, like, I'm actually a leading feminist.
	You're a feminist with a beard.
	I'm a feminist with a beard!
	You can be a dude without a thing and that's okay too, so why can't I be a feminist with a beard?
	They have no chance, you know, they're in their sport and they train, they get up, they don't party when everybody's partying, they spend their whole lives training for this one thing, you know, and then they get up there and they're going, hey, who am I fighting today?
	Oh, Mike Tyson in a wig, how do you like that?
	Who wants to win like that?
	I don't wanna win like that.
	Like, it's like the biggest asterisk in the history of, like, sports, and yet the real problem is, like, how long it's become so... I say that being trans in 2023 is, like, the most privileged position you can be in.
	Like, you can do no wrong.
	You don't have to play by any rules.
	What rights are they fighting for?
	What rights are they fighting for?
	They don't want equality.
	They want much more than that, which is sort of...
	Strange.
	And yet, you know, no one's going to Riley Gaines to give her a beer commercial, even though she probably deserves it.
	Has Biden claimed to be Irish yet?
	Because no matter where he goes, he claims to be that, you know?
	Yeah, well, he walked right by the Prime Minister of, you know, Britain today.
	He didn't even know who it was.
	And, you know, he's taking direction from, you know, Crackhead Hunter, which is sort of impressive.
	I know.
	I think they renamed it Crack Force One since he's been on it.
	I wouldn't be surprised, and I'm sure they're having a lot of fun on the plane.
	There's no telling what he's doing in the bathroom with Crack Force One right now, I'll tell you.
	100%.
	So, I want to ask you about something.
	You recently tweeted, and I quote, no matter how much money they throw at me, I'll never abandon President Trump.
	Can you explain what's going on behind the scenes?
	No, because I see it as someone who's big online, as someone who's helped sort of nurture and curate a bunch of sort of what were MAGA influencers.
	What's going on there?
	Well, you know, there's a lot of money thrown behind the scenes for everything, for me to just say something or mention a product or to maybe support this person and that person.
	There's a lot of money.
	I've never taken a dime.
	And it's hard for me, you know, I don't have a lot of money and, you know, I have been making some since this, but it's hard to turn down money when people say, hey, just retweet this opinion and I'll give you $15,000.
	And I'm just like, I could use that.
	That's half a tractor.
	I have a horse ranch.
	But there's one thing I don't do, and I just want my opinions to be my opinions.
	So I don't want to be influenced by outsiders.
	Look, I love Trump.
	There would be no Cat Turd without Trump.
	I built my whole brand
	Off of Donald J. Trump, you know, the first outsider that ever came in and won the presidency.
	And I'm always going to support him.
	I don't understand these people.
	That abandoned him, and you know a lot of them are just getting paid.
	We know who they are out there now.
	They're just like, oh, Ron DeSantis' team is going to pay you some money.
	You're going to be for him.
	And then who else is going to be there eight years from now?
	You'll just switch to there.
	Consistency makes people trust you.
	I'm never going to sell out.
	My political views are not for sale to the highest bidder or the lowest bidder.
	I'm just not going to do it.
	Well, yeah, I think that's so important.
	So I assume a lot of people have sort of offered you money to be able to, you know, push another candidate or turn on Trump, because I've seen that with so many.
	Everything under the sun you can imagine for the last two years, people throw money at me.
	Yeah, no, I mean, I've seen that myself.
	A lot of the guys, and again, I mean, there was no sort of political influence or class on the Republican side, certainly not on social or whatever, sort of before Trump.
	And Trump created a lot of those guys.
	I helped nurture a lot of those guys.
	And then, you know, you could see Trump, Trump, positive, positive, and then one day it's just flipped.
	They said this is the way, and I'm like, oh my God, they're on the payroll, and they flipped so quickly.
	So it's interesting that, you know, cat turd,
	It is.
	There's a lot of people that have got big accounts.
	They're just whatever.
	The new person is, you know, and and how can you ban in Trump after everything they put him through the all these fake investigations, the fake arrest, the fake raid?
	I mean, we see what I mean.
	Trump is the first outsider that's ever got in there.
	Your dad.
	I'm saying Trump like I'm not talking to his son or something.
	No, but I do it all the time.
	They're like, it's your dad.
	I know it's just easier.
	Like it's it's a little different.
	But yeah.
	And I mean, that's what I like, you know, perhaps about twenty twenty four better.
	It's like
	You go in there first, you know, we came in as an outsider, right?
	So we didn't really know anything.
	We tried figuring it out and still did a pretty good job.
	You still had a lot of the rhinos and the Republicans working against you.
	But like Trump as a second term lame duck, I think is actually so much more powerful because you don't have to worry about getting elected.
	You don't care about making friends.
	These guys have tried persecuting you and throwing you in jail.
	You can just go in now and just
	Take it to the, you know, take it to the base.
	Take it, you know, burn it to the ground and start over because you don't owe anyone anything.
	You're not beholden to the money donors.
	You can see why they're going the other way.
	They want someone who jumps when they say, you know, jump and asks how high.
	So I actually think
	It's more powerful for 2024 and you also now have the sort of the working knowledge.
	You've seen just how bad it is.
	The Biden administration has shown you who are the who are the bad actors who came out and all of a sudden now they're supporting Biden and the stupidity that we see going on every day.
	What do you think about that one?
	Well, here's what I think.
	The swamp was a lot deeper than we all thought.
	Even your dad, I'm sure.
	Oh, yeah.
	But the Republican and Democrats up there, they always say they're in a club and you ain't in it.
	And that's the truth.
	And what they do is they got, whatever, a $4.5 trillion budget.
	Sometimes the Democrats have it, sometimes Republicans.
	But they all are friends up there, and they all split that money.
	And here comes an outsider.
	Who's not going to split that money with all their buddies and their donors and stuff.
	And you see what happens, everybody, when a true outsider comes in.
	Look at the investigators.
	They're going to destroy you.
	They're going to try to destroy your family, all your friends, all your lawyers, everybody you know, because this is a message to anybody else that wants to come from the outside and go to D.C.
	to change things up.
	This is a message for all future people for 50 years.
	They're doing to Trump.
	By the way, I think that's like, you know, again, Cat Turd being one of the more astute political minds out there.
	I mean, that's right.
	They are making sure, you know, Elon Musk wasn't born in America, so maybe he can't run for president.
	But someone like that, who's done it on the outside, actually understands how it works, isn't just sort of a bureaucrat politician who's going to the next step.
	Like, they're trying to make sure that anyone that would be like Trump
	Who doesn't need the money, doesn't need the notoriety or the fame, doesn't care about the power.
	Anyone like Trump, they want to make sure there's so much disincentive for them to ever even think about running for politics, that they keep a monopoly on that power and the money that they wouldn't be able to make anywhere else.
	Because let's just face it, so many of these people are just not all that impressive, but they're good at being vicious, right?
	It's like Anthony Fauci.
	He was never a great doctor or the best doctor.
	He was a better bureaucrat.
	He figured out how to snake someone else near him.
	He got himself on the cover of a magazine, took credit for good, probably pushed off credit for bad on other people, and he played that game, and I hate to call it a game, but that's the reality of what it is over there, better than others.
	He was never the best medical mind.
	That's ludicrous, given his
	Total track record of failure over decades.
	So they want to make sure that they keep that little, uh, that system all to themselves.
	And I think, you know, this is not so much even about Trump as it is preventing the next Trump from even thinking about maybe entering the game or putting their hat in the ring.
	They will destroy you, and they've done everything they can.
	And man, to abandon your dad right now, it never was in my cards.
	And I live in Florida, and I pushed hard for DeSantis to be our governor.
	You think I wanted any of these other people to be governor?
	These crazy Democrats?
	Charlie Criss, who doesn't even know what party he's in half the time?
	He flips back and forth.
	He, he, look, I, I, a lot of us push hard for him to be the governor.
	This is not the president's race.
	This is our governor.
	You live in Florida.
	I live in Florida, but he owes us four more years, uh, period here.
	You're young, do your time.
	And then when your time comes, everybody will get behind you then, but not now.
	Yeah, when you're just sort of following the establishment and the donor class, like, that's a little scary, because that's the thing, you know, up until like six weeks ago, hey, I get it.
	They had their paid influencers going after Trump for a while, and then Trump bites back, and then they say, oh, Trump's attacking him randomly.
	I'm like, there's nothing random about it.
	Like, this has been going on for months, and they're just doing it, you know, covertly.
	They're paying people like yourself to flip sides and say those things.
	I get that.
	But then you do see, you're right.
	I mean, five months ago, that was when the election happened, and now
	You know, he's in Ohio and Fort Lauderdale's seeing historic flooding, like, of hurricane proportions.
	Like I said, I had to fly back into Miami last night.
	I got in at, like, 1030 at night.
	I couldn't get into Fort Lauderdale Airport.
	Fort Lauderdale Airport's one of the biggest airports in the country.
	And it's shut down because it's underwater, but...
	Like, DeSantis has to do two campaign events in Ohio today, and tomorrow he's going to be, I guess, in, you know, Virginia, I guess, at, you know, Liberty University, while, like, a major city is underwater.
	Like, that's not the leadership that people voted for.
	Like, he could have said, hey, if I'm running for president, run for president.
	But if you're going to run for governor and do it under those auspices, you know, don't pull the bait and switch and just disappear.
	Because guess what?
	Like, there's two more years of this.
	Right?
	You're gonna run for two more years and neglect the state?
	That's exactly the opposite, I think, of what the people voted for.
	I put it like this on my podcast sometimes.
	Think about when Trump got in there.
	I mean, it was like in 2016.
	I was watching the inauguration.
	I was welping up.
	I was just like, man, we finally got somebody in there that cares about this country and not power in their wallets.
	And, uh, and I was so excited and everybody was, and you just got in there.
	What if in April of that year, he said, you know what, I'm going to step down and I'm going to run for UN ambassador or something like that.
	That's how Florida, uh, the people in Florida feel right now about the CENTAS.
	It's just a total abandonment of us, you know?
	No, and I say that I, you know, I actually, you know, the big complaint I've always had about the Republican Party is now sort of in the age of Trump, and now the rise of sort of the populist MAGA movement.
	Like, that is the Republican Party today, but like, we don't have much of a bench.
	That's what scares me.
	So I actually, in understanding this, you know, politics, I still, I want a deeper bench because I want more than, you know, one guy who's the successor.
	I do want people to be able to fight it out.
	But when you see this, it's like I had great hopes for it.
	And it's, you know, I watched the flip-flop on Ukraine.
	I see the original, sort of, the Paul Ryan talking points on, like, the New York AG.
	Well, it's not that important.
	Really?
	Like, the weaponization of a government against their political rivals isn't that important as a conservative in America in 2023?
	Like, really?
	Like, and then, you know, then he's gone during some of this stuff.
	He got steamrolled by Disney.
	You know, the influencers are saying, like, Ron Geller over on Disney, like, read the Wall Street Journal, Galara.
	Ron got bent over by Mickey Mouse and like because he's busy on a book tour and then he's campaigning when Fort Lauderdale's flooding like that's a major letdown for me as someone who lives here and again thought he was doing a decent job as a governor but it's like now my eyes are open and I keep getting sort of awakened to stuff that I probably shouldn't be awakened to but it's that's the problem our whole party's that way.
	We don't have the depth of bench to make sure that we can keep this movement going and we need to keep fighting for that.
	Are you crazy we got Nikki Haley and John Bolton?
	You covered DeSantis, I think we're sort of on the same page there.
	Talk about Nikki Haley and John Bolton and the other presidential wannabes.
	A lot of these people just run, they're trying to get a VP pick.
	Or they're trying to get just, you know, the next thing, whatever their deal is, a book, or the next job they want, or a job in the next administration.
	They know they don't have a prayer.
	I mean, come on.
	Yeah, no, they're on the book tour.
	They're either on a, you know, they want to be an ambassador, maybe a VP, or they're doing a book tour, and they're trying to, you know, Chris Christie will jump in to try to be relevant for a little while, and they'll try to throw some bombs, and the media will make him this great savior, because he's trying to take out Trump, and he'll write a book, and nothing will happen, but like,
	Yeah, unfortunately that's the reality, right?
	Everyone's playing for a second place position, and it feels so wasteful, right?
	Because you're going to have a vicious primary, you're going to spend tons and tons of money to fight the inevitable, and then you won't have money to fight the Soros-funded, radical, leftist machine that's out there ballot harvesting and cheating on all those things, and that's a real problem, and that's what we do to ourselves.
	Yeah, and what's the Republican Party doing about it right now?
	I mean, I've said this from the beginning.
	I said this when they started ballot harvesting.
	Okay, it's legal in, what, 11 states or something.
	Well, we gotta go out there and do it, too.
	By the way, 100%!
	And, like, let's be clear.
	I want same-day voting, paper ballots, voter ID, basic comments and stuff.
	Even the lunatic Marxists in Europe, they're like, you don't have those things?
	I'm like, no.
	How do you stop cheating?
	I'm about to ready to go Iraq and purple-finger it.
	I'm about to go purple-finger it.
	You know, you stick your hand in the ink.
	I voted.
	It's lunacy, but
	We can't implement the things that make sense until we get in control.
	We can't do that until we win state legislatures.
	And right now, we have to do that on the battlefield and on the playing field that they have established.
	So they're really good at that.
	They'll weaponize it.
	They have the full force and strength of mainstream media, of big tech, of social, of the mainstream media.
	You know, saying that they're doing everything right, there's definitely not cheating.
	Like, no one believes that.
	It's ridiculous, but... They're cheating like hell, and we all know it.
	But we have to play the exact same game, and that's the other thing.
	I want to make sure we have some of that money from, instead of fighting a vicious primary, like...
	You know, establish that.
	You know, get the guys running, you know, data and AI and trying to figure out where we need to be to be able to do that same game.
	Because, you know, we go around collecting votes by saying, hey, vote for us.
	And someone says, OK, sure, high five.
	You know, they're like, give me your ballot.
	Give me your ballot, because I want to make sure it's not raining on election day and that you actually show up.
	And, you know, they're going to trounce us as long as they keep playing that game, and we have to wake up to that because we are not awake to that yet, unfortunately.
	We do have one superstar on the bench, though.
	I do think that, and her name's Carrie Lake.
	Listen, Carrie's great.
	She's been on the show.
	She's a friend.
	I love her.
	Yeah, I'm actually in the process, like I'm working with Carrie right now.
	I'm publishing her book because, you know, the liberal, you know, the left has taken over corporate America.
	There's not, someone wouldn't publish her book, you know, the liberal publishing houses.
	So I literally started a publishing company to be able to help
	We're just not going to publish the book.
	Because they don't want anything out there that's an affront to the Democrat talking points.
	The rubber stamp talking points that's out there.
	So they all say, you'll build your own.
	So I did that.
	I created winning team publishing.
	We're publishing.
	We're actually, we're doing a fun one.
	We're publishing a book of my father's coming out.
	It's actually up for pre-sales now called Letters to Trump.
	And it's literally letters over the years from all these leftist lunatics who hate Donald, you know, Alec Baldwin.
	You know, Bill Clinton, all these people, you know, Trump's the great, like, kissing his ass.
	So that's coming out pretty soon, but I'm actually, I'm publishing Kerry Logue's book as well because, you know, we need people that are willing to engage at that same level.
	Yeah, I mean, we, you know, Dan Bongino's involved in this, but we have to create an alternate economy.
	Yeah.
	And just so we can survive, alternate banks, alternate everything, social media, you know, you have Rumble instead of YouTube, you now have this instead of that, and all these other places to go.
	We got Truth Social.
	So we have to do it and participate in it, and that's how you can help people.
	Like, well, how can I help?
	It's just, it just takes, you just have to, you have to sacrifice and hit them in the wallet.
	Yep.
	And then support the people that are trying to tell you the truth because the mainstream media out there, and there's one thing, because I've known this for years, but there's one thing I like that your father done was expose fake news because everybody thought what they were hearing their whole lives on Good Morning America and CNN, MSNBC, the New York Times, they thought that was the truth.
	And it's not just the lies they tell, it's they won't tell you any of the important stuff.
	They just omit it or they won't even.
	Yeah, if it's important and it goes against their thing, they just don't talk about it anymore.
	But you're 100% right.
	The parallel economy is something I'm working on a lot.
	We had Michael Seifert on here two weeks ago.
	He's the founder and CEO of Public Square.
	So guys, go check out publicsq.com and check it out, because that's like a listing of all the conservative companies.
	They sign on and say, hey, we believe in free speech.
	We believe in this.
	We believe in that.
	So if you're going to spend your money, you can give it to, like, Woke Disney.
	Or you can give it to someone who actually shares your values.
	Go to publicsq.com, sign up.
	And if you're a small business, go there so other patriots can find you.
	So we have to do that.
	I'd love not to play the cancel culture game.
	I'd love everyone to leave politics out of it.
	But that's not what's happening on the other side.
	The other side is weaponizing that.
	You know, Woke Corporate is there, one of the sponsors of this show.
	You know, Patriot Mobile, go check them out.
	Or you can go give your money to AT&T, because you're going to have a cell phone.
	So you can go to Patriot Mobile and give them your money, who's going to then donate back to conservative causes, First Amendment, Second Amendment, those kinds of things, first responders.
	Or you give it to AT&T, who's the parent company of the guys trying to cancel
	Like OAN and Newsmax on cable.
	Like, they want to shut down your voice.
	So, you know, check out these companies.
	You know, vote with your wallet in the meantime because, you know, they are weaponizing against you.
	Look at all the woke corporate guys doing their black squares and donating billions to BLM.
	Like, that's what we're up against.
	So take your money, go to PublicSQ.com and, like, give your money and put, like, someone who thinks like you, put their kids through soccer practice.
	Keep those small businesses and the lifeblood of America going.
	John Rich is starting his own bank.
	Yeah, like, we have to do this, and I'd love not to play the game, but like, PNC Bank two weeks ago canceled another business I have.
	I started, you know, MXM News.
	It's an app that aggregates news.
	So I'll show you the New York Times, and I'll show you Breitbart.
	I'll show you, you know, the Daily Caller, and I'll show you, you know, something else from the left, but I'll let you decide what side you want to believe.
	And PNC Bank, my partner in the deal, calls me, goes, hey, we got nothing in the bank account.
	I go, what do you mean?
	And he goes, there's nothing in there.
	It's a small business, but we had an operating budget in there, and we probably had three quarters of a million dollars running and paying bills and web optimization and all this stuff for MXM News.
	And we call, he goes, oh yeah, yeah, we don't want to do business with you.
	Like, we're not even making news.
	We're just taking news that's out there and just showing it to you.
	So you can go to MXM News, check it out.
	And PNC Bank, a major bank, just like, yeah.
	So it's not like we're creating news or saying, you know, fake stuff.
	They didn't even like the fact that, I guess, we were showing people both sides of a story and letting them decide for themselves.
	Because if you don't just buy into the narrative blindly, you're a terrible human being these days.
	And that's what we're up against.
	So we have to be playing this game.
	Yeah, they want to shout you down.
	They don't care.
	And that's the difference between us.
	I don't want everybody to be banned off social media.
	I want the liberals to have free speech.
	They can say what they want.
	They don't bother me at all.
	I think it's all funny.
	They try to get to you, you know, and I just laugh at it.
	But they don't want that for us.
	If we have a different opinion than them, they want to shut down.
	They want our banks shut down.
	They want everything about our social media.
	They want us to disappear.
	They're going to do death threats.
	They're going to dox you.
	That's the way they work.
	I mean, they're supposed to be the love and tolerant group, and we know how that is.
	Yeah, they're only tolerant.
	And by the way, I've seen them cancel themselves.
	People who are 99% leftist, if you're not 100% on board, they'll cancel you.
	Listen, we've got Truth and it's been great, I love it there.
	But I stay on Twitter because I'm happy having that conversation.
	I'll debate those issues, I'll debate those topics, I'll put it out there, understanding that it's 90% lib or whatever it is and they're going to go after me.
	I'm happy to do it.
	They don't even want us to be able to counter anything that's there because, again, the stuff that they're pushing is insane.
	They're just insane lunatics now is all I've got to say.
	So, I mean, I don't even know what's next.
	It just keeps going and going and going.
	What's next?
	I don't know, but I do think maybe the extreme, they've taken it so far that whether it's Trump derangement syndrome or they're just showing their true colors finally, you know, I think it's actually waking up
	Real America.
	I think for the first time maybe in history, you know, conservatives are probably actually winning sort of the pop culture battle, and yet... We are!
	Yeah, and yet we're still up against so much, you know, the trillion dollar, you know, if you look at Google, probably the worst offender in big tech, just censoring any kind of story that's there, pushing everything down through search, you know, using, you know, leftist Wikipedia to, well, this is what, you know, they're the arbiter of truth, but there has nothing to do with truth.
	You know, we're still up against so much, it's not that easy, but I think the extreme reaction to what's going on from the other side is getting ordinary people who are, you know, busy, you know, feeding their families, trying to live their American dream, the dream, you know, what's left that hasn't been shipped over to China.
	I think they're starting to wake up and understand exactly what's going on.
	I think that's really important.
	Yeah.
	Let me tell you something.
	90% of this country, and it's a lot of Democrats too, and I'm telling you, at least 80.
	They're so sick of the woke mob shouting at them every day and screaming at them every day.
	They're tired of it.
	Believe me, they've had enough of this.
	They're tired of listening to it.
	Believe me, I live out here in the real world, and everybody's tired of it.
	They don't want to hear it no more.
	So I'm actually just trying to look at some of the comments while we're talking, and I guess, did Bank of America try shutting down your accounts?
	Well, when we first started our podcast, Jules got a Bank of America account, who's my co-host, that it was our podcast, and Bank of America shut it down.
	Called her, said, you need to come down to the bank.
	She went down to the bank.
	Some kind of little worm boy come out there with a big grin on.
	I call him Worm Boy and he's like, well, we're shutting your account.
	Well, why?
	We don't have to give you a reason.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	That's what they, that's what they said.
	And then, um, so they just canceled us and then I blew them up on Twitter and then they started calling her.
	Well, and that's what happened.
	I mean, they did it to me with MXM News, right?
	It's literally an app.
	It's on Apple.
	You can get it on Apple.
	You can get it in the Google Play Store.
	It's not like it hasn't been vetted, but there didn't have to be a reason.
	And I'm like, if they're doing that to me, think of what they're doing to regular people, right?
	I have a pretty big platform.
	I have pretty powerful friends.
	I put this out there, and within a couple hours, the Speaker of the House was tweeting about how this is outrageous.
	So let's just say,
	They do it to us.
	Make sure we just decouple from that insanity, because, you know, again, you could be fine, and then one day, you're not, and you're out.
	That's why I'm, like, Rumble, I think, has done a great job.
	So, you know, for all of you guys, by the way, like, if you're watching this for the first time, like, subscribe to my Rumble channel, subscribe to Cat Turd, check it out, download the app, because, like, if I was on YouTube, I could do a great job, I could build up a big base, I could, and I could wake up one morning, and it's gone, all for nothing.
	For no reason whatsoever, just because they decide they don't want me talking anymore.
	I think we lasted, I don't know if it was four or five minutes on YouTube before we got three strikes and we were out.
	Yeah, I imagine I wouldn't be able to make it through my opening monologue before I was over.
	I was like, they cheated in the election, one strike.
	COVID was a scam, second strike.
	Masks don't work, third strike.
	But that's the point, you could have been right about that.
	Like, if you said masks don't work, well it turns out that's true.
	But if you had a million person following, you were literally deplatformed and that entire platform taken away, and yet six months later it ends up being right.
	If you said, of course the Wuhan lab leak theory, of course it came from there.
	It didn't come from a bat three feet outside of the lab that studies the exact virus.
	Of course it came from the lab.
	You were thrown off of those platforms.
	So that's the problem.
	We can't rely on them because they decide what's true from people who aren't honest brokers, people who aren't good actors.
	They're actually bad actors.
	It's just we figure it out a year later.
	And it's obvious.
	It's like, okay, here's where they mess with coronaviruses, right here in this lab.
	And they're saying, you know, so, and they're trying to convince you, well, you know, there's a wet market three miles from here and a kangaroo screwed a chipmunk and that's where it came from.
	And you're like, no, it didn't.
	It came right here from the lab.
	And of course it did.
	Like it was always, it was so obvious.
	It was, it was literally always.
	All of it is.
	Everything's obvious.
	And they don't care.
	Here's the narrative.
	We're going to jam it down your throat.
	And if you, if you fight back and that's the problem, and perhaps that's the scariest aspect of all of it was that like,
	Americans went along with it.
	So many just blindly followed the fear.
	Around the world.
	I was traveling yesterday.
	I mean, there are still people wearing masks on planes, and you can literally still see fear in their eyes.
	They're broken.
	You know, our allies around the world, you know, places like, I was like, okay, like Australia's kind of like us, Canada's like us, New Zealand, they're similar to us, UK, like they're further gone than we ever, and that's like, that's the track we're going down.
	Total dictatorships now.
	Total dictatorships.
	COVID did one thing, and speaking of masks, it tore the mask and let everybody look and what was what, and they knew around the world, hey, we can control people like this.
	This is like global warming at times a million.
	Oh yeah, no.
	Well, each new thing, whatever that thing is, becomes like the new religion of the left.
	It does.
	They'll do anything the government says.
	The religion of the left was global warming as headed up by goddess Greta Thunberg.
	Uh, the next religion became COVID, uh, you know, with Lord Fauci.
	Uh, the newest religion is Ukraine, uh, you know, headed by, you know, a high priest, you know, Zelensky.
	I'm like, what?
	These people are insane!
	Like, they can't...
	Now, if you believe in God, like the traditional sense of the word, if you're a Christian, a bunch of Christian kids can get mowed down in Nashville two weeks ago, but if it's by a tranny, well, that's not domestic terrorism.
	If it was a Christian doing that to trannies, it would be all over.
	It would be over.
	And they'd group every Christian in America that way.
	The FBI is infiltrating Catholic churches
	Like, looking for radicals, but you think they're doing that to mosques?
	You think they're doing that to mosques?
	Like, you know, the Catholics are radical, a concerned mother, you know, going to a PTA meeting as a domestic terrorist.
	You know who's not a domestic terrorist?
	Like, the trans activists that are mowing down Christian children.
	Those people, you know, they're exempt from... It's insane.
	Think about what they can convince.
	They've got to be laughing behind the scenes because they've convinced the left, men can have babies.
	Men can have periods.
	The cow farts are going to destroy planet Earth.
	If you can convince somebody that a man can have a baby,
	There's literally nothing.
	You can just say, hey, everybody we got in the merch, you got to wear a shit-filled diaper on your head for a week and they're just going to go get a shit-filled diaper.
	If you told them that it would prevent COVID, they would do it.
	I know it.
	If you can tell them men can have a baby and they believe it, you can literally tell them anything, anything, and they'll believe it and they'll follow it.
	Yeah, no, it's scary.
	It's true.
	And it's, you know, it's why we got to get our kids out of these public schools and the indoctrination camps that are going on in our country.
	They are.
	They're awful.
	We don't have a chance otherwise.
	Either, you know, through private school, if you can afford it, or homeschool.
	But they get them when they're four or five, and by the time they're 22, I'm telling you, they walk out of there, they're just liberal zombies.
	Yeah, no, it's true.
	The good thing about Florida, I mean, I saw that in New York.
	My kids were in really good schools and all that stuff, and you see it, and it's like, we just had to get out of there.
	I was talking with some people.
	You know, Harvard lawyers and this kind of stuff, you know, and it's like what happened to those schools?
	Like, you know, you're not allowed to think for yourself anymore.
	You just, you blindly follow the talking points.
	You don't learn anything apparently by thinking differently or arguing the points.
	You just, you take what you're spoon-fed and you run with it.
	And I just don't think that's going to be a positive thing for the world.
	I don't think it'll be a positive thing for humanity because
	I think they've proven how wrong they are on their talking points, and eventually those kind of mistakes add up, and they're going to do some serious damage, as they have over the last few years.
	Well, they have to shut you up if you tell the truth, and they do it through words.
	They're like, OK, that's misinformation.
	That's dense information.
	That's hate speech, what you said.
	Yeah.
	And then that's how they try to shut you down.
	Well, no, it's actual violence.
	It's actual violence, Cat Turd.
	Yeah, words are violence.
	Yeah, even me, I'm a cat turd.
	I'm a Twitter shit poster, you know.
	I mean, they come after me as hard as they do, and they shut down the bank.
	They come after me with everything.
	You can imagine.
	And just because I'm sitting here telling my opinion, and I do have a right to say it, you don't have to believe in it.
	So has anything happened?
	Obviously, you've been doxxed and, you know, and these kind of things.
	They're canceling your bank account.
	But what are some of the worst things that you've seen happen?
	Oh, as far as... Oh, yeah, well, you know, they post a different fake picture of me every week, and then they love to do fake mug shots, like, hey, look, he's arrested, he's a child molester, he's a wife beater, and he's this and that.
	Hey, wait a minute, Cat Turd, I feel like if you were a Democrat...
	You could actually go out there and be like okay with being a child molester and they'd probably leave you alone because it actually feels like they're sort of pushing this stuff at this point.
	I'm not saying it's gonna happen but they seem awfully quiet on the child molesters and the groomers and the other stuff that they're doing day in and day out with some of this insanity and yet yes if it was you they'll turn it into a negative thing now because you're a conservative.
	Well, there's no stopping what they'll do.
	I mean, you trust the FBI?
	They put child porn on Cheryl Atkinson's husband's computer.
	Remember that?
	Yeah, well, again, those were the people who labeled mothers going to PTA meetings.
	I said it a little bit ago, but they labeled mothers going to PTA meetings saying, I don't want my kids being spoon-fed BLM bullshit.
	Those were domestic terrorists.
	You know who's not a domestic terrorist?
	All the people who they were watching that they let go who actually committed heinous crimes in America.
	It's sad.
	It's scary.
	It's sad.
	And the real problem is, it's coming from the top, right?
	Because, like, I see FBI agents all the time, they come up to me and they're like, we don't know what's going on, we can't do anything about it, but if we speak up, we'll be out, just like the people in the military.
	Like, you know, you could be the greatest operator, fighter, pilot, whatever it may be, if you weren't going to take the vaccine, you're probably a conservative, you're out, you have no chance of promotion, we'll throw you out, and we'll make some, you know,
	Transgender individual and admiral because that's woke and cool.
	Yeah, let's make them an admiral.
	What could go wrong?
	What could go wrong?
	Talking about disrespect and every admiral that worked all the way from from You know when they were went to the Academy when they were 18 years old and spent their whole life you talking about Just a slap in the face
	Yeah, no, it's scary.
	And then, yeah, you have the Patriots on here.
	You know, I had, you know, General Tate on here on Thursday of last week.
	And, like, I guess it was Monday.
	Yeah, and this is a guy that led the 82nd Airborne, the 101st Airborne, the 10th Mountain Division, and you ask him what's going on, and he's like, it's lunacy.
	And it's why they can't meet their recruitment standards, because a big part of being a patriot is actually believing in the things that you're fighting for.
	But if your country stands for mutilating children's reproductive organs in the name of wokeness, I don't know, why would I go fight for that?
	Yeah, it's, it's, it's the recruitment's always up and like your dad's in Reagan's in, and it's always down when like Clinton's in Obama's in Biden's in it all.
	It always goes like that.
	I, I spent my 18th birthday at Fort Dix, New Jersey and basic training, you know, and, and, and I served under Reagan.
	I was, yeah, I didn't make it my career, but I, you know, I am an army vet.
	And I loved it.
	I had Reagan as a Commander-in-Chief.
	How good is that?
	It makes you a little bit more proud than a bumbling idiot like Joe Biden, right?
	You see a guy that can't complete a sentence or walk up a flight of stairs, it's a little bit hard to be like, that's my Commander-in-Chief.
	He's getting worse too, have you noticed?
	He's so bad now, I don't even know what he's saying half the time.
	I know he don't either.
	No, he clearly has no idea what's going on.
	Nothing.
	And if it was Trump, remember Trump held a banister one time going down a slippery ramp and they're like, he's in degenerative disease.
	Joe Biden, he doesn't know where he is 50% of the time.
	It's a regular thing.
	It's embarrassing.
	That's okay.
	It's embarrassing as hell.
	So you talked about being a regular guy.
	What was it like just being a regular guy, but all of a sudden now having this big an influence in the space?
	You're obviously a patriot, you're fighting for the things you believe in, but you sort of created that out of nothing.
	What's that like?
	It's nuts.
	Just sitting here talking to you.
	I've seen you on TV.
	I supported your dad.
	I'll be on the Trump train until it stops.
	Just trust me on that.
	Y'all have my full support and always will.
	I appreciate it.
	It's crazy.
	We start a podcast and my first guest the first day is James O'Keefe.
	And I'm talking to General Flynn, and I'm on Devin Nunez's podcast, and I'm talking to Kash Patel, and I cannot tell you how nuts it is.
	I just on Bo Snurly, you know, Rich Limbaugh, who I was a
	Major wrestling fans.
	The greatest.
	These are people I've seen on TV my whole life, and to sit here and to be able to just rap with you for an hour, it's amazing.
	It's a privilege.
	I love it.
	It's awesome.
	Well, listen, we love that.
	And hey, listen, a key tenet of this show is just trying to make people unafraid to speak up.
	So to see someone like you, just unafraid, goes and does it, and then is successful doing it, that's a really big deal.
	We need the entire country to have sort of that level of empowerment, because I think if you do,
	They can't cancel us anymore.
	I mean, it all sort of goes back to the same thing.
	You know, when you're afraid, and again, there's consequences to being on our side right now, but if 175 million Americans, if half the country, like, hey, you can have a strong economy, you can have businesses to cover, you can literally do everything that you need to to preserve yourself, but you need to come out of that shadow.
	You cannot allow that.
	And they are just, they're nothing but bullies.
	You can't let them bully you.
	You can do it respectfully.
	No one says you have to be out there like a lunatic like me, you know, ranting and raving and doing this stuff.
	But if I can get a few people a day to be like, okay, he's right.
	We just got to push back on this.
	If I can get a few mothers to say like, you're right.
	It's insane to allow men to compete in women's sports and take my daughter's scholarship to college.
	Like that's insane.
	If we do it and we do it in volume,
	We can actually win this battle because I actually think we're winning the pop culture because I think that's where people are in America.
	They're just still afraid to actually say it.
	Once they become unafraid, we're winning this thing big.
	Yeah, well, it takes every tool in a toolbox to do a job, and everybody's a little different, you know.
	Everybody can't be a hammer.
	Everybody can't be the, I rock.
	I mean, it takes every tool to do a job.
	So some people, I do it through humor, and then I try to get a point across.
	Memes, you can make people laugh.
	You can, some people are good.
	Some people are the screamers and the shouters.
	Some people are just balls to the wall, the hammer, and somebody's a screwdriver.
	Somebody's a saw, somebody, you know.
	I'm pretty good at being a hammer.
	When you're a hammer, everything's a nail.
	So maybe I'm a little out.
	I think you're a five pound sledge, mini sledgehammer.
	You need those two.
	They're a useful tool when you need them.
	I'll leave nuance to others.
	So what's that been like for your family?
	Do they all know you're a cat turd?
	What has that been like?
	Well, everybody does.
	I actually, my mom died recently, but my parents and grandparents have passed away.
	Um, I do have people in my family, uh, and they get bothered too.
	And they don't, you know, they're not into politics like I am.
	And, and, and, uh, they bother them too.
	They find them, they dox them.
	So, uh, yeah, everybody gets a big kick out of it.
	I mean, my father died when I was young, in my young twenties.
	He was the one that would have really got a kick out of cat turd, but it's, it's pretty amazing.
	It's an amazing thing.
	It's lightning in a bottle.
	A lot of it's just luck.
	No, but it's a skill, man.
	There's a lot of people out there trying to do what you're doing, but you've struck a nerve, you've gone viral.
	I see what you're doing.
	You don't often miss.
	But you're also willing to say the things that so many people have been made afraid to say.
	I think I'm a little bit that way myself.
	Do you do your own Instagram?
	Do you think I could pay someone to post the shit that I post on Instagram?
	They'd be worried about losing their job every day.
	I just do it and go all in.
	I just stopped caring a long time ago.
	That makes it a little bit easier.
	Just don't be scared of everybody.
	You have a First Amendment right to say your opinion, and they're trying to take that away from you.
	But say it.
	It doesn't matter.
	You don't have to be right all the time.
	But say it, whatever your opinion is.
	You have a right to say it.
	And on social media, thank God Elon Musk took over because it's the first time in a long time I don't feel like I've got to tiptoe and reword everything and read.
	Spell check myself and everything else.
	But you have a right to say this.
	They're trying to shout and bully you down.
	They're trying to intimidate you.
	They're trying to do everything they can for you just to not to say your opinion.
	And you're an American and you can say your opinion.
	If they don't like it, tough shit.
	Yeah, no, a hundred percent.
	And that's what they're trying to do.
	And again, I think we're finally getting that.
	We just need the more people that are willing to come out and start pushing back and saying it.
	And again, vote with your wallet.
	That's a big deal.
	So how do you see
	How do you see 2024 playing out, right?
	You said you have family that are getting, you know, getting crapped on for you being cat turd, but they're not really political.
	I mean, do they see what's going on if they're not really political?
	Oh yeah, they're not political like I am, like ever live and breathe it, but they're definitely political enough to know what's going on.
	Okay.
	But, oh yeah, I think Trump's going to steamroll the primaries and it's going to be, I can't wait for the debates.
	Can you?
	Is that going to be good or what?
	I can't wait.
	Don't be hilarious.
	Yeah, exactly.
	I may have to just live stream them because it's amazing.
	Having been there, just being there for some of the great lines of the debates against Hillary and stuff like that, I was just like, oh my god.
	Watching them almost throw Jeb Bush off the stage, it was just incredible.
	But funniest thing your dad's ever did still to me is it was right after the, uh, you know, grab them by the pee tape, come out and everybody's like, oh, he's gone now he's gone.
	And so he said, he said, I don't know if it's the second debate against Hillary.
	And he told everybody, Hey, I got, I got some news.
	I told all the press, I got some news back here about Obama's birth certificate.
	And they all walked in and there's Anita Broderick, all the people that accused Bill Clinton of rape.
	I still get a kick out of that.
	Yeah, that was amazing.
	Having been there for that, I've got some good stories behind the scenes I'll have to get into one day.
	Please tell me someday.
	Yeah, we'll have to do that.
	Maybe we'll have to save that for a second Cat Turd podcast.
	What do you see as being the key tenets of America First?
	The media, I think, gets that so wrong.
	The rhinos get that so wrong.
	I don't even know why it's controversial.
	But, you know, what are your thoughts on that as sort of, you know, coming at it from just the regular American standpoint?
	And why is that such a problem for so many people?
	Yeah, I mean, we're just constitutionalists.
	I mean, you just read the document, you know, we believe in the free speech and the right to bear arms and on and on.
	It's real simple.
	We're not racist.
	We're not bigots.
	We're not hate-filled.
	We're not hate mongers.
	We just believe in, and it's not even the traditional merit values, but we hold dear
	The values of and if we lose these, we lose free speech.
	And if we lose all these things, then we're going to lose our country.
	And we are right now.
	I mean, we have no justice that with the FBI, the CIA, the Justice Department.
	We got wide open borders.
	We got fentanyl pouring in and we see these things happening.
	And we just want our country
	You know, to abide by the Constitution, limited government, and just get the hell out of the way and let us do what we do out here.
	We're talented people.
	We know how to do things.
	We turn the wrenches that provides everything, the plumbing, the electricity.
	We know what we're doing out here.
	Get off our backs and let us just live our lives and leave us alone.
	Yeah, no, 100%.
	And by the way, people seem to be really into the idea of a second Cat Turd episode, so we're gonna have to do that.
	But, you know, two things before we sort of wrap up.
	I want to say, you know, you tweeted the other day, you know, we are the media now.
	You know, expand on that a little bit, because I think it's sort of interesting.
	Again, I think, you know, that Cat Turd can carry, you know, the weight of
	CNN it probably does at this point with people and I think frankly you have a lot more credibility but but talk about that and how it changes because I think it's going to be an important part of the future because I think it's been very clear that we can't go to the usual sources even sort of the left going to the left sources and the right going to the right sources because I think all of them have been so bastardized and sort of you know become so corporate.
	Well, Fox News, the CNN, all, they all have a really big billionaire people, and they hire people that are, you know, and pay them $5, $10, $20 million a year to say exactly what that billionaire wants them to say.
	So it's and they all say the same things.
	I mean, you can play montage after montage all across the country.
	NBC affiliates say an exact same thing.
	So you're not getting anything real.
	So the future is citizen journalists like myself and like you having a podcast in our podcast where we at least try to we're not beholden to anybody.
	Nobody's telling us what to say.
	Nobody's paying my mortgage.
	And so you got to get out there, and we are the media, and old media is dying.
	Nobody believes NBC and CNN and the Washington Times and the New York Times and the Washington Post.
	Nobody believes that stuff anymore.
	Their ratings are in the shitter.
	Nobody believes them.
	They're a bunch of liars.
	They have an agenda, and it's just normal people
	That might be a plumber over here or something that's got to just have these little podcasts and they'll get out and that's where you're going to have to go if you want the truth that digs into things and tries to find the truth.
	I think, you know, Cat Turd sort of, you know, Cat Turd could be like the Joe the Plumber of the 2024, you know, cycle because you're right.
	I mean, you are.
	It's funny.
	You do it in a way that is funny and humorous, like just like I do on like Instagram with memes.
	But we're actually making points and delivering news that probably
	You're powerful.
	Well, we want the truth out.
	I don't want to lie or anything.
	I mean, I want the truth to be out.
	I look for the truth.
	And I'm not a big, you know, I dogged the Republican Party out just as much as the Democrats.
	Look at the Wikipedia page of me that they come up with.
	Far right-wing extremist misinformation propagandists from hell.
	Well, read mine, it's just as bad and it's like, you know, I always say, I just want to seek for the truth.
	I want a truth.
	That's why, just like, let's just say the news story with the FBI arresting the leaker right now.
	They did it today.
	I have no idea what's going on.
	You know why?
	Because I can't trust the FBI.
	I can't trust any of our media to know.
	I don't know if that guy's a fall guy.
	I don't know if he really did it.
	You don't know because they lie all the time.
	They all have an agenda for power.
	Yeah, and I was having a conversation about this with a friend earlier, and they were like, well, it's terrible that they leaked information.
	I go, maybe, but like, I also, you know, six years ago, you know, I thought it was terrible what Julian Assange did and Edward Snowden did, and yet now, like, looking back on it with what I know now, watching the way they went after my father and my family and the way the deep state functioned, I go,
	I don't know, maybe it's just the US government's a bad actor.
	I don't want to condone leaking, and I don't want to do anything that gets Americans killed, but if we're actually in Ukraine, with boots on the ground, soldiers there, and Congress isn't aware of it, and the American people aren't aware of it, and let's just not forget the fact that Russia has 6,000 nuclear missiles, I get we've been fighting a proxy war, but if we're on the... I don't know, could this guy avert World War III?
	Are we on the brink of going in?
	You know, elected officials aren't telling the American public exactly what's going on.
	So, you know, it's hard.
	Of course they're not.
	Guys I used to think were villains, I'm like, I don't know, maybe they're actually heroes.
	Yeah, I know.
	It's a little bit hard.
	And having been in the room, having seen the lies, having seen what they said about me, you know, I committed treason apparently.
	I'm trying to figure it out.
	I understand I'm not the upstanding citizen that Hunter Biden is, but I'm like, wait a minute.
	They went after me like that.
	I'm like,
	I don't know.
	I don't believe anything that they say anymore.
	I don't trust any of these guys.
	If you had a laptop doing everything on Hunter Bodden's laptop, I mean, it's right there.
	I mean, the pictures are there.
	You would be under the jail right now.
	They would make a special basement thing for you.
	Oh yeah, I'd be at Gitmo.
	And by the way, I deserve it.
	I deserve it, but he's immune from that.
	It's crazy, so that's what it is.
	It's like, all these things I would have thought I'd be really against or hate, I'm like, I don't know.
	Maybe he's doing a good thing, because I don't want to be in a world war.
	Trump, the guy that was going to start World War III, is the only guy de-escalating, and is probably the only guy competent enough to actually be able to get us out of these things.
	They did it under Biden, because they saw that weakness.
	That's a scary place to be.
	It is.
	And we're going to have to get him back in in 2024.
	And his foreign policy, which everybody thought was going to be weak, was probably his strongest suit.
	Oh, yeah.
	I mean, listen, Tucker said that the other night.
	Tucker said, listen, Trump is the most on point guy in foreign policy in Washington, D.C.
	All the experts were full of shit.
	They don't know anything.
	They've been you know, they just they they get their expert status and then they go to their cocktail parties and talk about how great they are.
	And no one actually gets anything done.
	Trump's the only guy that actually got it done.
	They do.
	You know what they really hate?
	The Republican Party hate about Trump?
	He made them work.
	They're not used to going to work.
	The Congress, they have their little six weeks, and they take off eight weeks.
	And they're used to being the minority party, and they'll sign a few bills here.
	He comes from a business background.
	And I'm out here in the real world working, and everybody I know, every boss I've ever had, every owner of a company, they talk just like your dad.
	They don't talk like Mitch McConnell.
	They don't talk like Mike Pence.
	I don't know.
	Yeah, no, it's sort of amazing.
	Trump, he speaks like a fourth grader.
	It's like, no, maybe he just doesn't need to try to impress you.
	Like, I think he's more accomplished than any of the clowns in media that we're criticizing him all the time.
	Like, that's pretty much without question.
	And yet, you know, they're the experts and they know better.
	It turns out they don't know anything.
	So, yeah, he's a builder.
	OK, I got to build Trump Tower.
	OK, I got to start with this.
	I got to start with this.
	I got to start with the permits.
	I got to get this.
	I got a concrete board.
	I got to get the rebar in.
	I got, you know, I've got to build it and I got to complete it.
	Then I got to do this stage, this stage.
	These politicians never they've never ran anything.
	They don't know how to get anything done.
	All they do is suck up government taxes.
	We pay their salaries.
	They never even do anything.
	They contribute nothing.
	Yeah.
	And it's yet, you know, you look at D.C.
	and it's one of the wealthiest, if not the wealthiest zip code in the world.
	You're right.
	They don't build anything.
	They don't create anything.
	What they do is they peddle influence.
	And, you know, they're very good at that.
	To the expense of the American public, they've taken, you know, your, my, everyone's American dream and shipped it to China so they can save one cent on a widget and make billions doing nothing.
	It just continues, and that's why Trump is such a threat to them, I think.
	You know, they see a guy that doesn't need to be part of that social circle, a guy that's not afraid to call it out, and that's a real threat to everything that they hold near and dear, but most importantly, it's a real threat to the big money that they're making for doing nothing.
	Yeah, I remember he never went to the correspondence dinner, you know, and boy, that was just you.
	You have to come to the elite.
	Oh, yeah, no, we got I mean, and I love that he snubbed people like that.
	I mean, remember when Obama was in every other week, they'd have a big party with Hollywood celebrities and stars and this and that.
	And it's just like I hated that look.
	Yeah.
	By the way, everyone's saying they want Jules on the next one with you, so we're going to have to do this again.
	Bring her, man!
	Jules is awesome.
	My co-host, unlike my old scruffy southern accent voice, she has the most wonderful voice for radio you've ever heard in your life.
	She's amazing.
	All right, well, listen, we're going to have to do that, but before we go, what's your message to the Trump-MAGA movement?
	Like, what's so important about, we talked about staying in the fight, not letting up, you know, and what are the stakes?
	Well, the stakes are our country.
	I mean, we've fallen in a hole, and even me and conservatives are being optimists.
	It's hard to see our way out of it.
	Yeah.
	It is.
	So we just got to get your dad back in there.
	He never gave up on you, so don't give up on him.
	I mean, look what they've done to this man and your family.
	I mean, be loyal, because he's loyal to you, and he's not doing it for power or money.
	He's doing it because he loves this country.
	Everybody else up there, 95% of them, they're not doing it for that.
	You ever hear them talk about love of country?
	Or do they talk about global warming?
	What do they talk about?
	They're talking about the religion of the day, and, you know, yeah, listen, he's the only guy that went to Washington, D.C.
	and came back poorer.
	It's true.
	He's still doing pretty good, but I'm trying to figure out how these other guys that went in there broke came back being worth hundreds of millions of dollars doing nothing.
	I'm still confused, but, you know, I guess... They're the best traders in the world, aren't they, Congress?
	Boy, they can play that stock market game.
	I mean, they're geniuses.
	I mean, Nancy Pelosi is probably one of the... She's the original Wolf of Wall Street.
	Oh, yeah.
	Man.
	It's incredible.
	Never misses.
	70% return.
	I don't care what it is.
	Well, hey, Cat Turd, thank you so much for doing this.
	I'm watching the live chat.
	It's incredible.
	So we're going to have to have you back on here with Jules.
	We'll talk further.
	Listen, there's going to be no shortage of craziness to talk about, whether it be primary cycle, whether it be a general election eventually, whether it's the other things.
	And I'd love to have you back.
	Keep doing what you're doing, guys.
	Go check out...
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	And Cat Turd's one of them.
	So thanks a lot, man.
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	So share this stuff and this content and others like me with your friends so they see it and we can keep this movement going.
	And for those of you who are on Locals, I'm going to switch over to there, so I'll be over there in a couple of minutes.
	But thank you again, Cat Turd.
	Locals, go check it out there and we're definitely going to have to have you back on soon, man.
	Thanks so much.

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