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The Parallel Economy: Public Sq CEO Michael Seifert on Why Woke Goes Broke | TRIGGERED Ep. 19

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	Well, guys, welcome to another episode of Triggered.
	This one's gonna be an interesting one.
	It's a little different.
	We're not really political in this case, although it is in the sense that you guys always ask, hey, you know, Don, what is it that we can do?
	What is it that we can do?
	How do we fight back against what sometimes, honestly, guys, feels like sort of insurmountable odds, right?
	The deck is just stacked against us.
	And by the way, it is.
	Okay, don't kid yourself.
	You gotta, I always say it, right?
	The trillion-dollar mainstream media complex, a trillion-dollar big tech enterprise, multiple trillion, uh, you know, socially and exactly even, maybe we got truth to balance it out a little bit, but, uh, candidly, I think Twitter 2.0, actually for me,
	Maybe worse than 1.0.
	It's like they took over, things started getting a little better, and then the inmates retook the asylum.
	But, again, who knows?
	Maybe it'll change.
	But, you know, I know I saw a good spike in engagement, and now I'm back down to, like, before pre-takeover level.
	So we'll see.
	But you have those things that we're working against.
	Big, woke corporate pushing, you know, the BLM nonsense, donating billions and billions and billions and billions of dollars
	Not that could be used to promote shareholder value in these big companies or anything like that, but used to push a sham, right?
	BLM was a scam.
	We all know that now.
	We've seen that.
	To the tune of billions of dollars, the founders all living in homes in Bel Air.
	What actually was accomplished?
	Probably not a lot.
	I know a lot of cities got burned down, but none of the money went to go build them back.
	But when you ask what we can do, we have to push back, right?
	We got to support the paid-to-read economy.
	I mean, I've talked about it with the sponsors of this show, because again, if you have the guts to sort of sponsor a show like this,
	That takes some balls.
	I get that.
	You could be canceled.
	You're on an FBI watch list if you're sponsoring this show.
	So I'll thank them later on, and we'll talk about that later on.
	But when you ask what we can do, it's support people
	And
	a a list of all the conservative companies in your area or when you may be traveling and it's growing and growing daily so if you're a conservative business go to public sq uh go sign up uh if you're looking to figure out where you want to support you can go to coffee shop a or b see which one of them's on public square
	You know, put their kids through hockey practice.
	We've seen the insanity of the world in the last few weeks, especially.
	It looks like we're on like a looming bank crisis.
	A couple of major, major banks went under because, you know, woke ESG bullshit and all that nonsense was driving the banking system.
	I don't know why.
	I can't tell you why, but it is.
	And it's really, really affecting the way these places perform.
	But you see the inflation due to stupid policies like from the Democrat Party.
	They're worried about woke nonsense while China and Russia are forming alliances abroad.
	What could possibly go wrong?
	So Michael Seifert founded Public Square to put together and aggregate all of the companies.
	They sign up.
	They share your values.
	They're checking that box.
	So when we want to fight back, the key is not giving your money to woke corporate, you know, Starbucks or, you know, one of my sponsors on this show, you know, Patriot Mobile.
	You know, you're going to have a cell phone without question.
	So if you have a mobile plan, have a mobile plan where the company
	Whose Planet is actually gives back to the things that you believe in.
	You can go check out, you know, go to patriotmobile.com slash Don Jr.
	for free activation.
	Like those, they're one of our sponsors, but they do that.
	They give back to causes.
	But Michael Seifert founded a company that put all of those things together.
	So when you're at home, you can find that company that shares your values.
	When you're traveling, you're going somewhere, you're on a vacation, you're away for work, go do that.
	When I was in D.C.
	for CPAC, we actually filmed the interview at CPAC because we're all over the place.
	When we were there, I was like, hey, Michael, what's the best restaurant nearby that's on Public Square?
	He goes, here.
	We went there.
	We called last minute, got a reservation for 20.
	It was incredible.
	We were there with Matt Gates and Carrie Lake, Nigel Farage, like a serious crew in D.C.
	of conservatives.
	And they were there.
	Oh, it's awesome that you guys are here.
	We welcome you.
	I mean, think about the difference.
	Or you could go to a place where they're going to phone in the fake protesters.
	They're going to come in, you know, try to egg you on the way out.
	That's the battle we're actually in right now.
	So I think you'll find this conversation interesting about someone who, like, well, they always said, well, if you don't like it, you don't like the policies that, you know, X, Y, Z social, go build your own.
	Well, then when you do, they don't really mean that, right?
	They'll put up every wall and you can't, you know, Amazon won't host you on their servers.
	And, you know, so it's not real, but that's fine.
	We got to play that game.
	It's sort of like,
	Voting right now, right?
	Sure, I'd love same-day paper ballots with an ID, but the other side has taken total control.
	They weaponized COVID to do that.
	And while I want those things, it's not realistic until you're actually in a position of power to put those things in place.
	So we have to do that.
	We have to actually be out there doing that.
	The way to do that is support those companies.
	So go to Public Square.
	PublicSQ.com.
	Check them out.
	Sign up if you're a small business so other like-minded patriots can find you.
	But also, if you're just a consumer, go support those businesses because those are the people that are like you.
	And honestly, if you've been watching for the last few years and you don't think that we're in a war for the soul of our country, a war for our identity, you haven't been watching the policies that WOKE will push, even knowing
	That half the country doesn't agree with it.
	They don't give a shit, okay?
	They'll jam this crap down your throat.
	And we have to push back.
	That's the way to do it.
	So go check out Public Square, but watch the interview with Michael, a guy that, again, built his own from San Diego, California.
	Got sick of walking around and having a mask mandate at a place where just clearly indoctrinated sociopath communists.
	And so he found
	The businesses in his local area that weren't that way.
	And then started branching out and finding them all over the country and grew a great company.
	They're going to be going public.
	So they're, you know, literally in that process.
	And we'll talk about that interview, but it's really important.
	So just in case you didn't think that we're in a war for identity, to be clear, ESPN this week, on like Sunday, celebrated Women's History Month by promoting a special
	About transgender swimmer Leah Thomas, a biological male, folks, who destroyed actual women in sports.
	You saw the stuff about Riley Gaines.
	I'm going to have her on the show here, too.
	I met her, actually, at CPAC, and she was great.
	She was one of these swimmers that got beat that would have been a national champion.
	Because a biological male that had the extra muscular strength, that had the extra cardio capacity, that had the extra bone density, that had like a foot in height on them, you know, won and is lauded as a hero.
	And on Women's History Month, ESPN!
	Like, I don't know why, but ESPN is more woke and more political than, like, CNN!
	And that's hard to believe, folks.
	I don't even know what the hell is going on because I don't think their fan base wants it, but they are nuts.
	Check out this clip.
	See for yourself what ESPN is pushing on Women's History Month.
	In 2022, swimmer Leah Thomas became the first transgender athlete to win an NCAA Division I championship by winning the 500 freestyle.
	The Texas native competed for three seasons on the men's twin team at the University of Pennsylvania.
	She began her transition after her sophomore season and after a gap year due to the pandemic that forced the Ivy League to cancel all sports.
	Thomas made her debut as a member of the women's team in December 2021.
	Being trans is not a choice.
	I didn't have any other choice because not transitioning was not leading me anywhere.
	She competed amidst criticism from the swimming community, competitors, and teammates.
	She said she hopes her persistence serves a larger purpose.
	People will say, oh she just transitioned so she would have an advantage so she could win.
	I transitioned to be happy.
	How can a woman work at ESPN after that?
	The network seems to be just openly making fun of the notion.
	Are men now better at being women than even women?
	Is that what they're trying to tell me?
	The way I read it is that seems to be the case, because it's freaking insane.
	Of all the women in sports, all the people, the Riley Gaineses of the world, all the incredible runners and swimmers and basketball players, whoever it may be, Leah Thomas gets a special.
	I mean, I feel like, I think,
	Fuck, man, like, are we in, like, a simulation?
	Am I like Jim Carrey in, like, the Truman Show?
	Like, are you guys all, like, are there, like, 75 cameras around here, like, watching every aspect of my life and you guys are just screwing with me at this point?
	Because it feels like that must be the case, okay?
	If ESPN, okay, for all their woke bullshit, they can't find a woman to celebrate for
	Women's History Month?
	Well, everyone, and it's one of those, even when I post on Twitter, most people are like, yeah, you know, I kind of hate Don Jr., but he's right about this.
	Oh, I can't believe I'm agreeing with Don Jr.
	on something.
	I hate that, but it's so obvious.
	Isn't that what's going on right now?
	So, woke ESPN, and again, I said they seem to be trying to give CNN a run for their money in terms of the woke bullshit, but just in case, I'll leave it to you guys to decide who's worse, but from CNN also this weekend, folks,
	If you're white and you've posted a gif or a meme of a black person to express a strong emotion, you may be guilty of wearing digital blackface.
	You heard me right, folks.
	Wait for it.
	Wait for it.
	Digital blackface.
	Now we have digital blackface.
	Are you insane?
	What the hell are we talking about?
	Is there anything that they can't, like, so if I post, like, the Michael Jackson meme where he's eating popcorn because I'm, like, waiting for some idiot to do something on it, like, I'm committing a hate crime of digital blackface.
	These people are insane!
	When does it end?
	Again, like, how are we not in a simulation right now?
	How can this be real?
	And again, you know, you see the videos.
	I saw the videos this weekend.
	They're talking about, well, you know, there was a fight.
	Someone sucker punched a woman.
	One's black, one's white.
	Of course, it went one way.
	And if it didn't go the other way, it would be rioting and you'd hear about it and this.
	But when the white girl gets sucker punched, it's like, oh, it's just basketball player gets sucker punched.
	If the white person was doing the soccer punching, it'd be a national story, we'd be talking about racism, we'd have to have, you know, vigils.
	It's gone nuts, guys.
	I mean, can we just agree, like, hey, good people are good people, bad people are bad people, like, pieces of shit are pieces of shit, and like, great people, like, why can't we judge people based on their character?
	Why can't, like, we allow women to excel in sports?
	Why does someone have to commandeer it?
	If you want to go be trans, go be trans.
	Don't do it to the three-year-olds, okay?
	Draw the line.
	You know, let them decide.
	And by the way, if you push the three-year-old into it, and then when they become an adult, they're not happy with it, since the recidivism rate is in, like, the 90s?
	Like, let them sue the doctors.
	Let them sue their parents.
	Let them sue the teachers and the other people that push this bullshit.
	But now we have...
	Digital blackface.
	Guys, there's going to be a point where we're not going to be able to function.
	You're not going to be able to have a conversation.
	You're not going to be able to talk.
	You're not going to be able to do anything because someone will have a problem with it.
	You will be committing some sort of form of genocide or whatever because words have no meaning.
	So that was the insanity.
	But it wasn't all bad.
	It wasn't all bad.
	Trump held
	A rally in Waco, Texas, and it was lit.
	I was actually going back and forth with Uncle Ted Nugent, just texting back and forth.
	He was like, dude, that was awesome.
	It was incredible, the energy.
	And I really hope so, because I hope people are seeing exactly what's going on.
	I think I see, you know, they're probably starting to see the establishment attempted takeover of MAGA, of populism.
	You know, we've seen plenty of that.
	But this rally was epic.
	They even did a flyover in Trump Force One to the soundtrack of Top Gun.
	They were playing Danger Zone as Trump flew overhead in the 757.
	It's pretty awesome.
	Check that out here.
	And then I'll also play you a couple of the top clips from that one because it's absolutely epic.
	Put your hands together and let's make some noise for our favorite president, Donald J. Trump!
	In 2016, I declared I am your voice, and now I say to you again tonight, I am your warrior.
	I am your justice.
	And I took a lot of heat for this one, but I only mean it in the proper way for those who have been wronged and betrayed, of which there are many people out there that have been wronged and betrayed.
	I am your retribution.
	We will take care of that.
	We will take care of it.
	We will hold a competition to build new Freedom Cities throughout our country, giving countless Americans a new shot at home ownership and a real shot at the American Dream.
	We will build new monuments to our great American heroes.
	We won't tear them down, we'll build them up.
	Clean out homeless camps from our inner cities, get rid of ugly buildings that are hurting those cities and other places, and return to the magnificent classical style of Western civilization.
	We will support baby bonuses, so many people like that, for the new baby boom that will be coming.
	We need babies.
	All of this is within our reach as long as we have the courage to stick together, stand firm against all attacks, and see this mission through to ultimate victory.
	Only Donald Trump could have rescued us from Hillary Clinton!
	Without Trump doing three rallies in the final week in the 2018 election in Florida, my governor today would probably be Andrew Gillum.
	How weird is that?
	And without Trump dragging Ted Cruz across the finish line, your senator would probably be Beto Beto.
	So Ron DeSantis, Ted Cruz, patriots of the MAGA movement, delivered for you in your time of need.
	Today, Ron DeSantis and Ted Cruz should endorse Donald Trump for president and stand with us as we were so proud to stand with them.
	Okay, so that was great.
	The energy, the enthusiasm, we need that.
	People are finally getting it.
	I think people have seen just how far the insanity of the left will go.
	The lies that they're telling you, they're just making stuff up out of thin air.
	And in case you weren't sure if that was real or not, Joe Biden this weekend was blasted for claiming that the GOP wants to slash border funding.
	It has to be a joke at this point.
	It has to be a parody.
	Like, how is this possible?
	He previously said there are more important things going on than the border crisis.
	But now he's saying, no, no, no, guys.
	We haven't just abandoned Trump's wall.
	We haven't had our border czar Kamala Harris do nothing.
	We haven't sat by while the Border Patrol chief tells Secretary Mayorkas of Homeland Security that, like, hey, we've got no control here.
	It's the GOP that wants to slash border funding, not the actions of the Democrats that we've seen for two years that has led to unprecedented levels of people crossing the border illegally, unprecedented apprehensions, and therefore probably also unprecedented numbers of people escaping through.
	I mean, is he an idiot?
	Like, can he say this with a straight face?
	I mean, can even our biased and incredibly partisan, radical, communist, leftist media, can they run with this and, like, not pretend it's a parody?
	Like, can someone really say that?
	Okay, Joe Biden said that, and there's no irony to the fact that the policies of his administration, and frankly, all Democrats,
	are like literally exactly the opposite of that, right?
	The GOP wants to build a wall.
	They've wanted to shut down the drug trafficking crisis.
	They've wanted to shut down the human trafficking crisis.
	They want to shut down the sex trafficking crisis.
	To me, the Democrats indifference on the border for the last two plus years has shown that they're almost in favor of those things at this point, because you almost have to be to be so freaking ignorant about the issue.
	Like, you can't pretend that it's not happening.
	You can't see the deaths from fentanyl all over the country and pretend that it's not happening.
	And Joe Biden can, with a straight face, get up there and say,
	The GOP wants to slash it.
	We really want to do something about it.
	It's like opposite day in Joe Biden's demented, moronic, I-don't-know-where-I-am-today world, that they can put this on a teleprompter for him and not even have an appreciation of the irony or the insanity.
	Because I don't believe that Joe Biden even knows what the hell he's doing.
	He's like Ron Burgundy, right?
	You put it on the teleprompter, that moron, he will read it, okay?
	F you, San Diego.
	He doesn't know what the hell's going on, right?
	But he can say that the GOP wants the flash border.
	It's like a number one priority for the Republicans.
	Like, literally, they would build that wall, they would complete it.
	Remember, we have 130 billion
	$10 for Ukraine, but we didn't have like three to finish the wall that was starting.
	We're spending money storing the remaining parts of the wall that they don't want to put up because Joe Biden shut it down.
	What the hell are they talking about?
	You can't take these people seriously anymore.
	They are lying to you.
	So that's why it was so awesome to see that enthusiasm in Waco, because hopefully people are finally waking up to the lies.
	And the lies are across the board.
	OK, don't get me wrong.
	But that's why Trump's so important for 2024, folks.
	Trump is so important for 2024 because he's the one guy that doesn't give a shit.
	He's not there to be part of the swamp later.
	He doesn't have friends there to please anymore.
	Honestly, there may be an advantage to sort of being the lame duck for a moment, number one, right?
	You got four years to fix it, and there is no running again.
	You don't have to please people.
	You don't have to do some of the things that people feel like they have to do in D.C., like so many of the
	The ones we thought were really MAGA seem to be doing over the last couple of weeks.
	Oh, I'm sorry, Mr. Donor, I'm going to change the policy I just said on TV seven minutes ago because you got a big check for me and, you know.
	Won't have that with Trump.
	So that was awesome to see.
	But Joe Biden should be called out.
	The fact that no one in the media is even saying anything about the border crisis, and that he can just throw it back at the GOP, they're like, oh yeah, it's the Republicans!
	It's like my four-year-old.
	You know, when she was four, she'd do something to her older brothers and be like, it was them.
	I was like, but I saw it.
	I literally saw you do it.
	Doesn't matter.
	That's what Joe Biden is.
	He's like a toddler.
	Who does something bad, gets caught, and like pretends he didn't do it, even though everyone literally saw him do it.
	It's that insane at this point.
	So, speaking of insane, over the weekend, a trans woman was left sobbing at JFK Airport after a TSA agent reportedly hit her in... wait for it... her testicles.
	Yes.
	Yes, folks.
	Whatever, man.
	Whatever makes you happy.
	Honestly, if you're a grown-ass woman, man, whatever it is, and you want to switch over, that's fine.
	I don't give a shit.
	Like, if you regret it later, that's on you.
	It's when you're pushing it on the kids, that's where I have a serious problem.
	So, let's make sure that never happens.
	Let's shut some of that stuff down right away.
	And that's why this was absolutely based.
	Incredible female fighter.
	Holly Holm calls out the sexualization of our children after her UFC win on Saturday night.
	Guys, the tide is turning.
	That people who rely on sponsorship dollars, that rely on this stuff, so much of which has gone so fucking woke, you can't even believe it, that they would have the guts to get out there and say this,
	It's freaking awesome.
	It's so important.
	And again, people are finally getting it.
	We have to draw the line.
	We have to protect our children.
	Check it out.
	Something has been on my part, and I feel like I have the platform to stand.
	I need to stand.
	I just feel it's really sad on the sexualization of our children right now, and we need to protect them.
	Whatever that may be, let's protect the children, please.
	Do anything we can to help.
	Okay, so that was absolutely incredible.
	I think that was so, so, so important.
	Again, guys, it's a real problem.
	It's a real issue.
	It's something we have to deal with.
	Again, whether it's at the border, whether it's across the board, you know, again, I promise you, if Donald Trump was on Epstein's list, you'd hear about it.
	Okay, this whole conspiracy, there is not a Hollywood cabal.
	All right, sure.
	Yeah, sure.
	Like, magically, Glujane, whatever the fuck her name was, Maxwell, could go do jail for 25 years for trafficking kids to apparently nobody.
	I mean, it's incredible, right?
	It just... She's just doing jail, but no one was part of it!
	They didn't know that the kid was nine!
	They had no idea, folks!
	Right?
	Yeah, there's no cabal.
	I'm sure, totally.
	We just put people in jail for 25 years.
	By the way, they'd do that to Trump.
	That's what Alvin Bragg would try to do.
	But, you know, if you're a hardcore Democrat, they wouldn't even try to do that, right?
	You just put you in jail for fun, right?
	The big Democrat donor or their friends.
	Sure.
	So it's a real problem, and I think it's absolutely awesome that Holly Holm called it out.
	She called it out on a world stage.
	She called it out where there's sponsorship dollars on the line, where a lot of faux corporate, you know, is involved, where there's actual probably consequences to her for saying the obvious.
	But the fact that she did it is absolutely awesome and so, so, so important for everything that we're doing.
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	The trend for people to be able to find how to support other businesses like you at home, when you travel, when you're on the road.
	Give these guys the business.
	This is the breakthrough.
	The first
	Really in the patriot economy.
	I'd love for there not to be two separate economies.
	I'd love for there not to be divergent interests.
	I'd love for all of those things to be happening.
	But so long as half of woke corporate America and probably a lot more would put us in the gulags, you know, call like peaceful protesters from J6 terrorists, mothers, concerned parents, domestic terrorists for going to a school board meeting and not wanting their children indoctrinated with, you know, BLM and, you know, DEI nonsense, but maybe like learn math instead.
	Support those companies.
	You're gonna like this interview with Michael Seifert.
	He's a great guy.
	He's become a great friend.
	I'm gonna do whatever I can to help him and Public Square grow and really get that dual economy going until the other side is willing to not be political, to not hate your guts, to not hate your freedoms, your religion, your values, until they're willing to not jam their woke bullshit down your throats.
	We gotta play, and the way to play is by voting with your wallet.
	So guys, check out this interview.
	I think you're gonna love it.
	Guys, welcome to another episode of Triggered.
	This one's interesting.
	We always talk about what we can do, what we should be doing.
	We hear and have heard for years, build your own, build your own, and then they pull something else out from under you, right?
	Build your own app, well then Amazon or Apple or Google won't let you on their app store.
	Build your own, then AWS Web Services pulls you off of their server, at least on the tech side.
	I'm with a good friend, Michael Seifert, who created Public Square because he saw what was going on and decided to build his own.
	Michael, again, you guys have probably seen me posting a lot about it, but this is like, to me, the front lines in the battle of pushing back against the insanity.
	I mean, woke corporate is coming after you.
	You can choose to give your money to them, or
	You can find a small business that actually shares your values, and you did that.
	Give us the whole story, because it's really sort of fascinating.
	He's 27 years old, right?
	The beard makes him look like not a baby, but I think if we shave that off... I look like a baby, if I don't have a beard.
	But you saw this, you're a young guy, tech background, and we're like, enough.
	Give us the story.
	Thanks, Don.
	Good to be here.
	Good to be here.
	Yeah.
	Well, we do talk about this a lot.
	We didn't want to just be talkers.
	We wanted to be doers.
	And so we're all aware that corporations have destroyed our economy.
	They have stripped power away from small businesses because COVID was a great example.
	All the businesses that were preaching about lockdowns, Walmart, Amazon, were the same ones that profited off of lockdowns because Walmart was allowed to stay open while your local small business wasn't.
	And so that is the most illuminating picture of what's been happening the past few decades.
	There are a few major corporations that embrace DEI and ESG and all these socially progressive ideas.
	And the ones that end up paying for it are average American consumers that want nothing to do with those values.
	They want to support the businesses that help them make their patriotism strong.
	And unfortunately, we're in this spot now where we've all awakened to the reality through really harsh circumstances, like people getting cancelled from their banks.
	Clothing companies starting preaching about transgenderism.
	You'll go to Starbucks and not even know that they're funding abortions.
	Like, it's the wildest thing.
	So we were all kind of asleep to it for a while.
	We knew that these corporations were going the progressive way.
	And then the last few years it's been this big bomb that's blown up that's helped us all realize we need to move our money to people that don't hate us.
	The most fundamental piece of every transaction is trust.
	And so if I can't trust the bank I bank with,
	The financial institution that I use for insurance or mortgages or whatever, the clothes that I wear, if I cannot trust these institutions, then there's a major breakdown in our economy.
	I've got to move my money toward where I trust.
	And the only way you do that is by shared value.
	So, in January of 2021, I had this idea for a platform that would help connect freedom-loving Americans with the businesses that share their values.
	My wife and I had a list on a piece of paper of all the businesses in our local town that we knew.
	And you're from the People's Republic of California.
	We're from California, and so we need this more than anybody.
	And what's so... Still, more conservatives in California than pretty much every state other than maybe Texas.
	Other than Texas, exactly right.
	Yeah, it may be California only because of the way they're able to vote, but there's more conservatives there than literally every other state other than Texas combined because of the population.
	It's actually a huge conservative place, but those people don't get to essentially have any
	Real say in things because there's enough votes in LA, San Fran, and stuff like that to outweigh all the conservatives in the farmland and in other areas.
	Yep.
	Even San Diego, it's largely a conservative town.
	People love the family unit, they love the military, they believe in American patriotism, they believe in the Constitution, and yet our voices aren't heard.
	Because where the money is housed in society today is largely in the hands of corporate elites that are partnered with a regime in government that wants nothing to do with our freedoms or liberties.
	And so California, we know that firsthand.
	We figured where better to start this app than there.
	And what we found is we released this app in the fall of 2021, just in San Diego.
	We had a website, an app, lots of local businesses, and it just blossomed.
	We started hearing from the rest of California that they wanted it too, and so we expanded it to the state.
	And then we started hearing that there's a hunger for this nationwide.
	That actually, that list I described, what if everyone could have their list?
	And from there, July 4th of 2022, so about eight months ago, we launched nationwide.
	Now today, over half a million consumers, nearly 50,000 businesses on the platform, all different industries from different backgrounds with one thing in common.
	A shared set of values that embody the principles found in our Constitution so that you know as a consumer, with the blessed assurance, that you're not funding companies that hate you.
	It is that simple.
	It's how we change culture.
	It's more than just an election cycle.
	It takes day-to-day purchasing power shifted toward those that you can be proud to stand behind.
	I experienced this, I was telling you, last week.
	I started MXM News with a buddy.
	Again, build your own.
	Okay, so we will.
	You know, I was really sort of pissed off about the Hunter Biden story not being covered anywhere.
	But there were some small places to cover it, but it was never going to get out into the ether, right?
	They suppress it, do whatever you can.
	So created a news aggregation app, just MXM News, like minute by minute.
	And like, we put up everything.
	There's stuff I looked yesterday, I was like, there was stuff from Mediaite, you know, not exactly conservative.
	You know, USA Today, New York Times, but it also had Breitbart and Daily Caller and these kind of things.
	So you get everything and you scroll through, you click the article that you want.
	It literally just aggregates existing news.
	It doesn't create news.
	It's not right-wing propaganda.
	It just allows you to see everything and or perhaps both sides of a perspective.
	You get the, you know, the Washington Post, New York Times, total left-wing side and then maybe that's outweighed by conservative side.
	PNC Bank.
	A major national bank.
	My partner calls and goes, uh, our account's at zero.
	I think we just got hacked or someone stole three quarters of a million dollars.
	Like, the operating account of this business!
	And we're like, what?
	So he calls, and they're like, oh yeah, you'll get a FedEx tomorrow with a cashier's check.
	It's like, wait, you just, they broke up without even a call.
	They just sent us a cashier's check.
	We're not just doing business with you.
	Like, well, what did we do?
	No reasoning, no cause.
	We weren't doing anything controversial.
	We're literally just, we take news that's there, and we let people choose for themselves.
	A major bank just said, yeah, we're not doing that.
	Now, I am blessed in the sense that, it still happened to me, but if they can do it to me, you know, who can't they do it?
	More importantly, who won't they do it to in the end, right?
	So it's just a little small business operating, trying to get news out there, sends us a cashier check.
	Now, when I make a stink about it, I have a soapbox.
	I got some, you know, man, I got, you know,
	Pretty powerful friends and like guys I do a lot with.
	They follow my feed and they're like, I mean, I got the Speaker of the House to be like, oh my god, this is insane.
	Like, really?
	Because we are at risk, guys.
	We are at threat.
	Like, it's no different than being in, you know, Facebook jail on social media.
	Like, it's not a question of if it will happen to you, but when.
	You know, the social credit score is real.
	And again, if they can do it to me, they can do it to anyone.
	But not everyone has the ability to fight back like I do and stop it.
	But now, because of what, you know, Michael's created at Public Square, like, we do.
	So, I mean, go check it out.
	Like, PublicSQ.com.
	The reality is this.
	If you're at home, you know, you're gonna look for a restaurant.
	You're gonna get online.
	Whether you go on his app or his webpage or on Google,
	It doesn't take any more time.
	You're searching anyway.
	If you're traveling, going to a new town with your family, same thing.
	You're looking it up one way or the other, but if you're going to spend your money, spend it with those who aren't going to take your hard-earned dollars, and ultimately, in many cases, like you said, Starbucks or Disney.
	Take your money and use it to fund stuff that you can't stand, or companies or ideas that literally would put you in the gulags.
	You can give it to AT&T
	Who has, in the last month, tried to cancel Newsmax, who the month prior to that cancelled OAN.
	Two of the three big right-leaning things on cable, they're just like, eh, we're cancelling you.
	Millions of households would not see those things if it were them.
	That's the parent company of AT&T, so you can give your money to AT&T because you're going to have a cell phone.
	Until they decide your social credit score is not good enough.
	Back to a flip phone.
	They blow it up and we're back to smoke signals.
	But you're going to have it.
	So you can give it to Patriot Mobile, who gives at least a solid percentage, I think it was 10% in some cases, back to conservative causes, whether it's Second Amendment fights, pro-life issues, all these things.
	Just things that you'd believe in.
	Why not give them the business?
	And by the way, it takes guts for them to sponsor a show like this, knowing it puts them in the crosshairs.
	So, you know, Patriot Mobile's been one of our great advertisers, so use promo code DONJR for free activation.
	But again, you're going to have one.
	Like, why give it to people who are even taking a tiny fraction of your money and weaponizing it against everything that you believe?
	I mean, so I had that experience this week.
	Like, we're at CPAC now, so this is going to be airing next week.
	But we're at CPAC now.
	They're like, what are you speaking about?
	Well, this just happened to me, so I'm going to be doing it.
	But it also, like, sort of fortuitous, like, the same week that you guys are now, you know, going to be going public.
	Like, which is sort of an awesome story about this, but we gotta be doing it, and we're gonna be taking the time to do it anyway, so you might as well look through here.
	So, I mean, tell us more about some of the Public Square businesses.
	Like, I did it last night.
	I mean, we're in D.C., and I'm like, where am I gonna go that I'm not gonna get yelled at?
	So I literally got on the app,
	Found restaurants in the area, found one, and they're like, we called like last minute, we're like, hey, can you get a table for 18?
	It was like, me, Cam obviously, Carrie Lake, Matt Gaetz, Sean Parnell, Nigel Farage, like it was a pretty solid wrecking crew of, let's say, people that probably have pissed off the vast majority of DC, and they're like,
	Yeah, we can make that happen.
	Come on in.
	And they were, like, awesome.
	Like, and it was so, for me, in this town, not easy.
	Right?
	And we went to a place that, like, I was as welcome as I would be back at home in Jupiter.
	Like, Florida.
	Like, in D.C.
	So, like, you can do this.
	Like, send that guy's kid to soccer camp.
	Yes.
	You know what I mean?
	Send that family your business.
	Not, you know, woke corporate.
	Again, who's going to be funding Planned Parenthood or the Insanity or the Trans B.S.
	Like, whatever it may be.
	It's so obvious, but we gotta be engaged.
	You know, so much of this show, what can we do?
	This!
	You can do this.
	Well, it is that easy, too.
	People are always like, well, I can't change my iPhone, so why should I even try?
	They own too much, they're too powerful.
	But my easy rebuttal to that is like, guys, it doesn't take much.
	Start with a cup of coffee.
	There are coffee shops in your local region.
	Some donate to abortion, do not like the police, vocally preach for defunding the police.
	Those are the Starbucks of the world.
	In fact, we have a coffee shop in San Diego that has quite a few locations that during the Summer of Love, June 2020, refused to serve police officers.
	I read that story.
	It was absurd!
	Wait, wait, wait.
	If I've spent time in California, it was around San Diego, only because I used to shoot competitively.
	My buddy was the captain of the Marine Corps Rifle Team.
	I used to go shoot at Camp Pendleton a lot, you know, in matches and stuff like that.
	Even for California, it's a reasonably conservative area, but certainly like law enforcement.
	And in all fairness, I don't know that the whole defund the police accomplished quite what people... Very opposite.
	I don't think anyone with a brain actually thought that this thing would end up somehow good, but even like the lunatics in San Francisco are like, maybe we gotta refund the police.
	Yeah!
	Like, no shit.
	Like, really?
	They're retracting those stories two years later, but it's, like, under the table.
	They're not even admitting it.
	But that's what's so easy.
	You could go to that coffee shop, or for two seconds, you could find the one across the street.
	Exactly.
	You know, it's no different than your phone.
	Like, hey, you're probably having a cup of coffee in the morning.
	Yep.
	Or, you know, buying sneakers.
	Or need a bank.
	Well, yeah, I may be calling you.
	Yeah, we've got options.
	I gotta get back on the bank thing, because, look, again, even I can't get
	A bank?
	Hey, you're not maximizing shareholder value, but that doesn't matter because of the ESG bullshit.
	Exactly.
	Just like Apple has a great ESG score because they sub out the child slave labor that's mining cobalt and lithium in Africa to a third-party company.
	So their hands are clean.
	They didn't pull the trigger.
	They just paid someone else to do it.
	Come on.
	Well, and the ESG stuff is so nonsense.
	FTX has one of the highest, well, did have one of the highest ESG scores in the world.
	You can be the most corrupt company on the planet.
	You can have zero morals, no ethics, but as long as you preach the message that the regime wants you to preach, you get a high ESG score.
	And what you know on Public Square, what we've wanted to do is make sure that none of the businesses on the platform have that ESG score because
	It's fundamentally anti-American.
	It's fundamentally anti-free speech.
	It's fundamentally anti-liberty.
	And not only that, the whole social component of ESG is so fundamentally anti-human at its core because it classifies people by what they look like.
	And I thought that the true definition of equality was that we don't judge each other by the color of our skin, but by the content of our character.
	But ESG says the very opposite.
	It's absurd.
	I don't know, man.
	I just want a bagel.
	I don't care who makes it.
	I don't want to judge them.
	But you see it.
	Guilting you into supporting a specific... I feel like we're actually regressing in terms of racial equality because of the insanity that's going on out there.
	You see it in the schools.
	I think it was Stanford, speaking of California.
	Only 20% of their incoming class was white.
	And then the leftists were like, well, do you think that's because they're underperforming?
	I was like, well, maybe they are.
	But if you look at any other metric across the country, they wouldn't be.
	And that wouldn't be the ratio.
	So it's like, well, we're going to artificially do this.
	So we're going to make sure of this.
	And it's crazy.
	And then you look at the Harvards of the world discriminating against Asians, who also probably oftentimes happen to overperform academically, whether that's
	You know, a family structure, you know, sort of a, it's just something that's been pushed in there.
	A cultural drive?
	Absolutely.
	A cultural drive, like, who knows, but, you know, all of a sudden, like, if you were white or that, it's like, that doesn't count.
	Yeah.
	So, I mean, higher education, I think it feels like they're blowing themselves up.
	You know, I've experienced some of that, you know, myself, where, even where I went, you know, it's like, well, that guy's, you know, good track star, we're gonna let him into Wharton, and it's like, where'd he go?
	It's like, junior year, what happened?
	Maybe there's just a rigor that not everyone can handle, and by giving them a certain opportunity, and if it's too far, and they can't handle it, are you doing them a favor if they drop out?
	No, affirmative action is... As opposed to going to a school, a great school, maybe not quite the academic rigor, or whether it was mathematical rigor perhaps in that case, or whatever it may be, that's not perfect.
	Sometimes you're not doing people a favor when you're thinking you're doing them a favor, right?
	Well, and it's a false sense of compassion, because there are so many people in our country that hear things like affirmative action, they hear about Yelp giving free advertising to black-owned businesses, they hear about makeup companies
	I think so.
	Parading this false idea of womanhood with a dude that is actually very clearly a guy.
	Like, I'm doing no one any favors.
	I'm certainly not doing the consumer any favor.
	I'm not doing women any favors.
	I'm actually erasing them in the process.
	If I even for a glimpse celebrate that.
	So, what we need to do is have like a harsh wake-up call in the country where we recognize that true compassion looks like embracing reality.
	Because I'm doing you no favors by lying to you.
	I'm doing no favors telling you you can get into a school that you really can't.
	I'm doing no favors telling you that you deserve free advertising because what I'm actually saying is like, I think I have to give you a leg up.
	In San Diego, the bar, so in California, the California bar, the requirements are dropping and their reason was we're dropping the requirements for the bar to accommodate more people of different ethnic backgrounds.
	What are you saying?
	Are you saying that you don't believe that people of different ethnic backgrounds could have made it on their own and you now have to lower the standards for them?
	It's incredibly racist.
	I guess there wasn't enough equity in AP classes, in the advanced placement classes, so they just eliminated them.
	So to not make the people who were underachieving in school, you're actually holding back those who were overachievers from learning more.
	That could be your next Elon Musk.
	That could be your next Einstein.
	But we're actually going to hold them back so as not to offend them.
	I don't know man, like where does that go for society?
	Nowhere good.
	Nowhere good, certainly for America, certainly for our standing in the world, because I guarantee you that's not happening in China.
	No.
	You know what I mean?
	You see those videos in China, what they're learning on TikTok versus what we're learning on TikTok, it's absurd.
	You know, my kid when he came back from kindergarten with like a little collage and stuff like that, their kids are building iPhones
	Yeah, and learning how to load a Glock.
	It's like, what?
	I'm like, what just happened?
	It's crazy, but we continue to perpetuate it.
	We think it's right to have an AP class, because some people felt bad that they weren't in it.
	It's like, well, are they working harder?
	There's ways they could still better themselves, but you don't do that at the expense of those who've been excelling.
	Definitely not.
	It's lunacy.
	Yeah.
	So, I mean, tell us some of the, I mean, I know there's got to be some pretty great stories, you know, with Public SQ and, like, just the businesses and making a difference.
	I mean, again, some business, you know, you could see what they're up against, right?
	That coffee shop that may be in public is up against, you know, major tech corporations being, shop at this one place because it's XYZ history month.
	Like, you know, there's always some sort of, you know, and there's a reason not to go there.
	I mean, you know, not only are you sort of artificially boosting one business, but you're also,
	Pulling away from another.
	I mean, you guys got some good stories.
	I mean, it always helps to read because I see these things.
	Like I saw it last night just going into this restaurant.
	They were like, yeah.
	I'm like, wait, like I was waiting.
	I felt like I was getting punked.
	Like I'm being like welcomed in DC.
	Like, you know.
	I'm an insurrectionist!
	Wow, that was kind of cool.
	Yeah.
	One, you deserve to feel that way.
	When you walk into somewhere that's trying to serve you a quality product, you deserve to feel welcomed.
	Like it used to be the customer's always right.
	And so if you, it doesn't matter who you are, you're Don Jr.
	or Joe Schmo from Ohio, it doesn't matter.
	If you walk into an establishment, that establishment should care more than anything else about making sure that you feel welcomed.
	And it does not matter what your political background is, that should be the goal of a business.
	And on our platform, that's the drive of these business owners.
	We want to provide quality products and services to Americans, because we're for America, and we believe that one of the principles found in the Constitution is that you have
	So, amazing stories happen every single day.
	We've got a great team that basically captures these stories, and businesses will reach out and share their success.
	Just yesterday, we had a great business called Carnivore Snacks.
	They're on the platform.
	They're actually Joe Rogan's favorite snack.
	He said that on a podcast once, which was kind of cool.
	I don't know.
	I've been on your platform only for a few weeks now and I've already gotten $100,000 of business and new clientele through your platform because people are tired of the woke healthcare establishment that are using my dollars to fund causes I don't believe in.
	And now they're coming to America First Healthcare and feeling proud of their healthcare options and can know and rest easy at night that they're not funding companies that hate them.
	We're hearing stories from clothing companies that are saying we've had the most successful e-commerce day we've ever had.
	4 Rowan, an amazing clothing company, makes high quality women's and men's clothing.
	They donate 1% of all their proceeds to fatherhood initiatives in the United States.
	And they reached out and they said, hey, we had our best day of e-commerce we've ever had.
	We have a bank in San Diego that continues to get new customers every time another bank comes out and says, hey, we're anti-Second Amendment.
	This bank steps up and says, we're pro-Second Amendment.
	And it doesn't matter what you're purchasing, as long as it's legal, we're going to protect it.
	So the stories roll in, and it's honestly, Don, like the best part about this.
	And I text you stuff every once in a while.
	It's great.
	It's the best part.
	It's so incredibly rewarding.
	And to know that we're about a mission that's so much bigger than ourselves, this is really a generational legacy we're trying to create that moves the money back to we, the people.
	It's the honor of a lifetime.
	Well, and I think maybe that's the other thing people have to understand.
	It's not just a platform for you if you're a consumer.
	Right?
	If you're a consumer, it's a great place to find all the businesses you may want to find.
	But also, if you're a small business, or even a big business.
	I mean, some of the businesses on there are pretty big.
	But if you're a big business and you're signing on to sort of the values of public SQ, you can be there.
	You can get yourself to the consumer.
	So it's not just... I mean, talk about the business side of things.
	I think you can sign up from the business perspective, as well as from the consumer, and just have access to all these people.
	That's absolutely right.
	And it's free.
	So what we pitched to the businesses is, hey, if you want to prioritize your goods and services to a group of consumers that will drive farther or spend more to spend money in alignment with their values, go here.
	Sign up.
	Create a free profile.
	Takes three minutes.
	And all of a sudden, watch what happens to your sales.
	Not only is this mission incredibly fruitful and liberating, it's also a lucrative one.
	What people do not realize is that the Patriot economy is the last emerging market in the world.
	We're good to go.
	To help consumers feel like you felt last night, welcomed in an establishment, this is a great place to do it and you will get rewarded for it.
	Not only will you feel liberated because you're living out your values, you're also going to see your profits increase.
	We had a hair salon that reached out and said, hey, I just want to let you know I've been on the platform a month.
	I've already gotten enough new business from Public Square, from PublicSQ.com this month.
	To make up for my entire year.
	It's amazing.
	And every time they come in, the consumers are friendly.
	They're excited to see me.
	They're good people.
	These are salt of the earth.
	And so, I think the very cool thing that's happening here is that businesses are learning that there's a whole underground movement that's starting to rise up.
	Thank you.
	It's free to join as a business.
	Businesses will generally try it out for a few weeks, a few months, and then they'll reach out and they'll say, how do I do advertising?
	Like, I actually want to move my dollars from Google or from Yelp or from Facebook to Public Square because I'm seeing a better return here.
	And that's obviously, it's what'll keep us going for the long haul, and it's what creates this actual parallel economy that has real legs to it for the long haul.
	Well, you also work with companies like Red Balloon, our friend Andrew over there.
	I mean, it's like a job board.
	So if you're looking for conservative employees, you know, you're a Christian business, you know, and you're getting inundated with resumes of people who you know are probably lunatics who are going to figure out the first thing to sue you about.
	I mean, you're sort of almost outsourcing your HR.
	Yep.
	You know what I mean?
	Discriminated against, frankly, as far as I'm concerned at work, because I'm sure that happens all the time.
	I mean, you know, the Christian conservative at a woke business.
	If you're a Republican in big tech, like, it ain't an easy existence.
	You gotta, you gotta, you know, hide in the shadows.
	And I mean, you came from a tech background kind of anyway.
	We just, I mean, I'm sure there's some interesting stories there, given, you know, where I know you stand.
	But, you know, there's an entire thing.
	And all of that's growing.
	And I mean, I think what's really exciting, and you know, last week announced, you know, going, you guys are now going public.
	I mean, talk about that a little bit, because again, I think there's a couple parts of that that's awesome.
	It allows people to partake in this beyond even just looking at the business, but you know, sort of support companies that are
	I think so.
	It's also helping us every day, right?
	Oh, yeah.
	Because we used to be like, I don't know, I guess live and let live.
	But now it's so flagrant.
	It's so insane.
	It's so in your face.
	It's so aggressive and visceral that we're like, oh, man, we have to go and put forth that little extra effort.
	And I mean, I think that's working out great.
	But I mean, talk about that story, because I think it lets everyone also figure out a way to partake.
	If they already figured out their coffee shop, if they're already doing this, this is another way for them to play in this and help ensure
	We're good to go.
	While our community has been built by we the people, we're not owned by we the people.
	We have an amazing community of investors that I cherish so dearly because they've wanted to put their money where their values are and invest in a company and create this company with their capital that would change the country for generations to come.
	But I've been really, really excited also to expand that investor base to have we the people own the company.
	And one of the only ways you can really do that is by going public.
	So people have a lot of problems with going public that are totally merited.
	I do too.
	But we figured, you know what, if we could find the right deal and the right circumstances to where control was ensured and we had the right parameters in place legally to make sure that we had the mission protected over the long haul,
	Going public would provide an incredible outlet for we the people to actually own the company.
	To have 10 bucks in shares of Public Square.
	To gift shares.
	To show up at Christmas and say, you know what, nephew, I bought you shares in a company that's changing the country.
	That's our desire because ultimately I want people to be able to profit off of the mission that they created.
	We did not create this mission.
	If it was just us, we'd still be in San Diego with a small rinky-dinky website.
	That'd be it.
	We're good to go.
	It's called Columbia is the SPAC CLBR on the New York Stock Exchange.
	It's an amazing team run by a guy named Omid Malik, and we have a lot of hope for the future here.
	We're expected to close in Q3, and that'll be the start of a new chapter for us as a company.
	It'll equip the company with capital that we believe will help us grow off into the future.
	And we really want to prove to the nation that this is not just a momentary movement.
	This is a lasting mission that will actually overtake, you described earlier, Don,
	I think so.
	But he disagrees with my politics, so I'm going to remove him.
	Eventually, that's going to catch up to them, because there's going to be a new Patriot economy that emerges, and we're really grateful to be the tip of the spear there.
	And so, yeah, it's a fun chapter for us, Don.
	It's exciting times, and if you're a consumer, you can join at PublicSQ.com.
	If you're a business, you can join there as well, PublicSQ.com, or you can download the app on the App Store or Google Play.
	And if you're someone who really wants to own this Patriot economy, this new chapter is a great way for you to do that.
	Yeah, and I think that's an important thing.
	You mentioned sort of the control side, right?
	I think some people have that concern of like, well, if you go public then, you know, could the big institutions... No, the reality is you've actually set it up so that there's always sort of control back with you, the team, so there's no one like... Mike Bloomberg can't come in and buy it all, control it, and say, ha ha, we'll take your money, because that's what big corporate has done, frankly, though.
	Let's go!
	It shouldn't have to be.
	We should be in a very crowded marketplace.
	Yes.
	You know what I mean?
	But woke corporate is so woke, they can't understand it.
	You're almost out there on your own.
	Maybe the only other ones that would be close would be like a Rumble.
	You know, totally, you know, sort of individual investors, not institutional investors.
	It was the people that bought that shock and made it, you know, the most successful SPAC of 2022, I guess.
	Truth Social, the same thing.
	I mean, there were guys that lost billions of dollars because they're like, I don't want anything to do with it.
	They sold before it went and then, you know, shoots up that 182.
	And now you're dealing with nonsense from the SEC because it's Trump.
	And, you know, but like, you know, that was about
	The people and continues to be so I mean it's unique when you think about like half the country it's like a hundred and seventy five million people that have just been like ah like they'll be with us anyway and no one's actually even trying to cater to them so being first is kind of nice crazy that we have to be but uh but I'll take it
	Yeah.
	Well, we do.
	We feel like we're pioneering something.
	And speaking to the control side, we've always said to our team, to our investors, to our community partners, we would choose failure of our own company before we would choose sacrificing the mission.
	Yeah.
	So if it came to, I either compromise and I succeed, or I fail but we maintain our values, I choose failure ten times out of ten.
	Because the last thing this economy needs, the last thing this country needs, are phonies that step up and aren't genuine about their intentions.
	So we're purists in our ideas.
	We believe that ultimately the world is hungering for genuine expressions of people's actual value system.
	We're so tired of this fake charade where
	Everyone knows ESG is a scam.
	Everyone knows DEI is a scam.
	We all know that men are men and women are women.
	We just don't say it.
	We're tired of that.
	How dare you?
	I know, right?
	My bigotry is just rising up.
	You're a terrible human being for stating the obvious.
	We saw that right before we started.
	Riley Gaines.
	You know, the great swimmer that lost, I'm going to say lost because she didn't lose anything.
	She would have been a national champion, but for Leah Thomas, you know, the six foot four biological male that was somehow allowed to compete against these incredible women athletes that spent their time.
	And I mean, this should be shocking to a lot of people who follow me.
	Like, it's hard to believe that in 2023, Donald Trump Jr.
	is a feminist.
	You heard it here, folks.
	How am I one of the few guys fighting this battle?
	Every day they call me a chauvinist.
	I don't know.
	Is common sense that uncommon?
	Where are the soccer moms?
	Trust me, I have kids, and I know you're not allowed to say this, but going to kids sports, it sucks.
	Okay, like, it's not fun.
	Like, just stop.
	Like, every once in a while, like, there's a moment of, like, okay, that was a great play, that's fun, but, like, I have five kids, so maybe it's worse, but, like, you know, going to watch, like, a triple header of T-Ball is, like...
	You're a new dad, so you haven't experienced these things yet.
	I promise you.
	There's other things I'd probably rather be doing on my weekend.
	My kids will understand.
	CNN, Donald Trump Jr.
	hates kids.
	That'll be the headline.
	You know, that's the reality.
	But we do it.
	We do it because we have to and it's good for them.
	But where are the moms in those things?
	They've been bullied into like, well, we must just accept this.
	I was like, wait, you spent 20 years doing this and that guy's going to take your daughter's scholarship?
	Wait a minute.
	And that's going to happen.
	And there will be people now, as they see that that's doable, gaming the system.
	When the, like, 450th male swimmer in the country can become the number one female in a matter of weeks, that's a problem.
	Yep.
	And, you know, but that's all, I mean, it's crazy, but it's all intertwined, right?
	I mean, that's all part of that.
	Like, I read the article
	I guess it was just the other day, it was like, something like, well like, some absurdly high number of females recently identified as being bisexual.
	It was like 50%.
	Females.
	And I was like, could that be, or could it be that there's so much social pressure?
	Like, if you're bisexual, even if you've never even tried it or have no interest, if you say that you are, you eliminate the social pressure with that.
	Like, you're participating in WOKE and you're being really, like,
	How did that magically happen in two years?
	All of a sudden, you know, it went from being, let's call it, you know, 8 to 10% of a population to 50.
	And yet, during COVID, I think the study was they were shocked that during COVID, I guess, those that were identifying as bisexual, all of a sudden, were only in opposite sex relationships.
	It's like, well, could it be because they were never really actually
	But there was a social pressure to do that.
	I see it in, you know, with kids' schools.
	Like, there's a, like, you're not cool if you're not gay, or trans, or something like that in these schools.
	I was talking to a friend in school, a good friend from high school, and her daughters are in school up north, and, you know, she literally said, like, something, it was like 50% of her daughter's class was identifying as, you know, gay or trans.
	And then there was one furry.
	You guys know what the furry is?
	The kid thinks they're a cat.
	And so the entire school has to accommodate the cat.
	And there's a litter box in the classroom.
	Someone told me this.
	I heard about it from a young kid in New England, actually, a couple months ago.
	I was like, I thought it was fake.
	He's like, it's not fake.
	It's actually happening.
	And it's like, we're just accommodating this stuff.
	And guess what?
	If you're the guy that says something about the furry, you get thrown out of school.
	Not like maybe the entire school shouldn't be accommodating the lunacy of one person and maybe we do something about that.
	Can't have that.
	So, I mean, when you think about just how rapidly accelerating the insanity is, I mean, I feel like it makes this mission so much more important.
	It does.
	100%.
	Because if you want to know
	How these decisions are getting made and who profits.
	You've got to look at where the money goes.
	You've got to understand.
	By the way, everything.
	In politics, in Russia, follow the money.
	When you follow the money, you see the origins.
	And some of these people, they're smart enough to cover the origins because they know how ridiculous it is, but again, they're not willing to lose their money or their power.
	If everyone gets behind this thing, you know, they cancelled my father as the President of the United States, the most powerful man in the world, on paper, because they didn't like what he was doing for the people.
	But, like, you can do that when there's one guy willing to go out on his own.
	All the guns, all the arrows, all the slings get thrown at that one person, and they can take him out.
	They ain't doing that to 175 million Americans.
	Or, if they want to continue doing that, there's enough of a critical mass, and with what you're doing, Michael, to be like, OK, fine, we'll just have two separate economies, and that's OK.
	And like, we'll fund that, and we have people that actually have jobs, and actually work, and actually probably a little bit more consistent on their mortgage payments, and aren't saddled with $500,000 in debt for an underwater gender studies basket weaving degree.
	Sure, the payout on that one's going to be wonderful.
	If we want to play that game, I'm willing to play that, because I trust our people to actually probably be a lot more solid citizens in that respect.
	And maybe that's where we're going.
	Like I said, the fact that the same week that you guys are going public, and I've been working with you guys for eight, nine months now, whatever it was,
	They cancelled me.
	I mean, you know, we've heard about being put in Facebook jail and social media and they'll, you know, suppress your account a little bit.
	Like, I was debanked.
	Just, not even a call.
	Like, literally, they asked me, you know, what's your speech about CPAC gonna be?
	I was like, well, I was gonna talk politics, but basically my political speech was, hey, we gotta have to start ballot harvesting.
	If we don't, it doesn't matter.
	Now, let's also talk about the other fight that we have in our hand.
	Like, because, you know, I make this stuff up as I go, but like,
	There's almost nothing more important.
	These days, that politics is going to be intertwined with this.
	We have to be engaged in that game.
	We can't sit on the sidelines.
	For those of you that are watching and listening and thinking to yourself, I cannot believe Donald Trump Jr.
	got debanked.
	That's absurd.
	Why would they ever do that to him?
	He's big though, and he's political, and he's got a voice, and so they probably wanted to target him, but they would never do that to me.
	The reality is, it's the very opposite.
	If they can do that to a man as powerful as Donald Trump Jr., to a family as powerful, they can do that to someone with as big of a massive following, of course they can do it to you.
	It takes a second.
	They know that.
	They wouldn't even think about it.
	They still did it.
	I mean, and again, I got friends that follow me.
	I'm very politically involved.
	I mean, the Speaker of the House was like, this is outrageous.
	Like, the third most powerful man in the U.S.
	government saw my tweet and responded to it.
	Congressmen, senators are hitting it and being insane.
	If they know I probably have that ability, because it's not the first time I've spent a lot, and they know I have that and don't care, think how little they care about you with your 30 friends on Facebook.
	They'll cancel you on Facebook before you can ever get the message out.
	We are slowly becoming communist China.
	Right?
	With the advances in AI, you know, they're monitoring things, but things are only pushed one way, right?
	You can be the furthest lunatic on the left, and it's like you are boosted artificially.
	Whereas if you say basic things like, hey, there's two genders, and like, you know, and again, I'm actually pretty, like, libertarian on the issue.
	Like, if you're an adult and you want to be, I could care less.
	You know, happy people are productive people.
	Fine.
	When you start saying, like, some lunatic teacher's gonna be telling my three-year-old, and you're gonna carve me out of the process, and literally try to mandate that parents should have no say, because the teacher has some sort of, you know, master's degree, that, like, they should be able to talk to a three-year-old to make a life-changing, altering decision, 15 years before they could buy a pack of cigarettes.
	Like, no.
	No, man.
	That's when I'm gonna get engaged, that's when I'm gonna fight, and I'm gonna fight
	You have no choice.
	Yep.
	Couldn't agree more.
	And part of the challenge too is that...
	This keeps happening in such a faster cadence.
	It's like it used to be these stories would happen once a year, and then it started happening every few months, and then it started happening every few weeks, and now, in the same week, PNC Bank is canceling you.
	Discover, the credit card, they came out and said, hey, any Discover purchases now that are used on guns, we're gonna track, and we're gonna report.
	Visa and MasterCard have been doing that for a few years.
	There was a story last year of obviously Bed Bath & Beyond cancelling Mike Lindell, and that was sort of a big thing.
	But now you're hearing it happen to more and more average people, too, where PayPal came out recently and said, $2,500 fine for misinformation.
	And then they said, well... I mean, think about that.
	But think about what that means.
	Because I went crazy on that one, right?
	Yeah.
	Per instance.
	So like, I mean, how many people have
	I mean, I bet there's a lot of Americans that don't have anywhere near $2,500 in their bank account and PayPal could just say, well, you talked about the Wuhan lab leak theory.
	$2,500 out of your bank account.
	Just like, we're just going to fine you this.
	Like they have, they're not even like, why?
	Because someone said something else on their social?
	What does that have to do with PayPal?
	They were going to put this out there and trying to implement it.
	And like, by the way, all the things that I imagined would have been fact-checked as false have since been proven correct.
	But that doesn't matter.
	I mean, think of the lunacy.
	You, not on PayPal's platform, because it's not like they have a social platform that you're talking back and forth, but you could separately say something somewhere else, and PayPal's just like, cha-ching, cha-ching, I don't like what he's saying.
	And who's the arbiter of that truth?
	Is it like the media who's been the arbiter of truth?
	I mean, how many people have been put in Facebook jail for things who have been right?
	You know, I was the first, I was one of the early guys talking about like, Wuhan lab leak.
	I was like, of course it came from the lab!
	In what planet could it not?
	Of course that was always the most plausible.
	And I'm saying that, they're like, no!
	It came from four feet outside the lab where someone ate a bat.
	I'm like, no, but if you were a doctor and you said what I said, and they're all like, yeah, I mean, of course that was the case.
	I was like, well, why didn't you?
	Well, they literally threw me out of the hospital I work at.
	It's crazy.
	It is crazy.
	But again, it's just why people need to be engaged.
	Everyone thinks, oh, it's not going to happen to me.
	Oh, it is.
	It is.
	And the problem is, when it happens to you, you have much less, probably, ability to do something better than I do.
	At least I have a voice.
	It's probably not going to stop them from canceling me, but at least I can be like, hey, this is BS, and maybe other people pull their money from PNC Bank or whatever it may be.
	But if it continues like this, guys,
	Social credit score is going to drive whether you can function in society.
	We were threatened to be cancelled by Chase in the early days when we first started our business.
	Started a business, got Chase as our kind of banker, and we got rolling.
	Within three months, a banker called and said, hey, we're concerned about this whole conservative messaging thing, and we'd like to talk to you more about that.
	We're like, you're our banker!
	You can't talk to me about that!
	What part of our conservative messaging are you
	I like family and freedom and life.
	That's so offensive.
	You're an extremist!
	By the way, every statistic in the world shows that two parent households, active fathers... This stuff works.
	That's terrible!
	Who could possibly care about...
	There was a legislator, I think it was up in South Dakota, which is sort of crazy.
	They called one of these conservative groups that just believed in the nuclear family, and every statistic in the world shows that children tend to end up better when they have active parents.
	They called them
	Extremists!
	Like, you're a terrorist for believing in, like, the family structure, according to these people.
	I mean, that's becoming, like, commonplace mainstream think.
	I mean, Chase Bank, they, another one, I was speaking at a, I was speaking at an evangelical event.
	They brought me in as a speaker.
	Chase Bank wouldn't do the credit card processing for the facility that, because they were hosting me as a speaker.
	Now, I understand that I am not the upstanding
	Okay, I understand that, you know, I am not as good of a guy as Hunter, but they literally were like, yeah, we're just not, they had to cancel the event.
	They had thousands of people in attendance.
	We're like, we can't like, we can't have you in because we can't.
	Transact.
	At the last minute, they pull the plug.
	At an evangelical... like, conservative Christians.
	They're terrorists, but we saw Chris Wray last week talking about just that, right?
	Well, the FBI has been watching, you know, practicing Catholics.
	I'm like, wait, what?
	Like...
	Yeah, how did you just say that in the United States of America?
	Like every day, like I said, I feel like I'm being punked.
	Yeah, Ashton Kutcher's just gonna run around the corner.
	Yeah, I'm gonna pop out of like a cake and it's like, I'm just kidding, like you're, these people are insane, but it's actually happening.
	Those people are domestic terrorists.
	Mothers who go and
	Go to their PTA meeting to be like, hey man, I don't want you jamming this trans crap down my kids' throats.
	Or critical race theory, where the children are bowing to their friends who happen to be African American in class and it's like, wait a minute, no.
	You're a domestic terrorist!
	The actual domestic terrorist!
	They were on our radar, but we're a little too busy to actually watch them or catch them before they drive through a Christmas parade.
	But because they checked off boxes, even though they were clearly racist and on a lot of extremist boards.
	They checked those boxes, so... It was a car that drove through a Christmas parade, so we'll investigate the car.
	Like, not the, like, lunatic racist that... Like, really?
	Again, you... It's like we're living in, like, a dystopian, like, reality, and it's actually happening, but what's scarier is, again... Five years ago.
	You wouldn't even thought this was possible.
	No.
	The acceleration, the exponential growth of that insanity is...
	Should scare everyone, right?
	Because like, if this has happened in the last couple years, what's it gonna be like 10 years from now?
	Yeah.
	If we don't push back.
	And again, I think that's why this is such a, you know, public SQ as a way to push back.
	It is so important.
	And if we, the longer we wait, the more critical mass that they gain.
	They get to a point where you get beyond that point of critical mass where there's nothing you can do about it.
	They control everything.
	And they're trying to do it.
	You see what they're doing with housing.
	All the big banks.
	They don't want to lend on housing anymore, but they're going to buy it all so they can rent it to you.
	Because they don't want you independent and free.
	We were talking yesterday, and you're like, I'm keeping my classic car.
	They can take anything else.
	I'm keeping this classic car, because they can't turn it off.
	I get my own gas.
	I put it in that classic car.
	None of this electric car stuff that's autonomous, and they can just, none of that.
	Well, Michael, I don't like what you said, so we're just going to push the little button, and you can't drive for a month.
	Yeah.
	Like, oh yeah, it sounds crazy.
	Unless you've been watching for the last five years, in which case, it's like, I don't know.
	That probably would happen.
	We were just talking before the show, and we were saying, can you ever imagine
	Me telling you 15 years ago, one day you're going to talk to a swimmer who places second, even though she won, against a man in a collegiate national championship, and then that's going to make national news, and people will actually defend the man for swimming against her.
	You would have thought we were insane.
	She's the extremist for being like, hey, this is BS.
	By the way, I went to Penn, so Leah Thomas, her school,
	My alma mater.
	Had that happened when I graduated in 2000, we would have brought kegs to the swim meets to get hammered and laugh our asses off.
	That would have been the entertainment for the weekend, and yet now you do that.
	You get thrown out of school for being a radical extremist.
	But that's exactly my text thread of buddies from college.
	This is insane!
	All Penn grads, all Ivy League guys, all successful.
	It's like... It's crazy.
	Well, and to your point, you just said earlier...
	If you don't think that's a reality about the cars and turning off your access and all that, if you don't think that's a reality, wake up and realize that it can be.
	Because just as 15 years ago you would have thought we were crazy for saying all this would happen like we've described today, the same could be said today.
	Do not say that it's crazy to think that the government would just turn off your access to your life.
	They absolutely would if they were given the chance.
	Think about COVID.
	They intentionally shut everybody in our houses, removed your access to travel.
	In LA, where I was living at the time just a few years ago, there was a beach that the guy paddleboarding alone
	Got hunted down by lifeguards and by coastal patrol for paddleboarding alone during COVID.
	If you do not think the government would willingly and excitedly shut you down and your access if you keep speaking out against the regime, unfortunately, you have your head in the sand.
	Now, that doesn't mean you have to be hopeless.
	We have a really hopeful solution.
	Companies like Red Balloon, companies like Rumble,
	Companies like the 50,000 on the app, nearly.
	I mean, it's so cool to watch this movement rise up.
	So we do not have to be sitting in despair, but we also have to be awake enough to realize, like, we need to take the power back in the hands of the people, use our purchasing power, our time, our resources to support those that do not want a dystopian future.
	And that's ultimately the only way forward.
	Yeah, I mean, we're talking about banks, obviously, a lot.
	We're good to go.
	Go on PublicSQ, find the bank that matters.
	I mean, you know, so, yeah, listen, tell everyone where you can find it.
	I think everyone understands, but such a big tenant of this show, and again, why I'm on Rumble and not on YouTube, because I'd say one thing and, you know, oh, Don, you're doing great, and gone, like, canceled, like, you know.
	Exactly right.
	Social credit score.
	It's real.
	Time to go in the gulags.
	They would throw us in, in a heartbeat.
	Well, they've said as much.
	That's what's scary.
	They basically, they would do it.
	It's like, due process?
	Like, what's that?
	Again, look at some of the peaceful protesters from January 6th.
	The people with non-violent offenses.
	Like, I just got out of jail.
	I go, for what?
	They go, January 6th.
	I was like, were you violent?
	No.
	They just could.
	And they will.
	So yeah.
	Well, give everyone just where they can find you guys, how they can help.
	Because again, so many people are like, what can we do?
	I mean, this is one of the, as far as I'm concerned, preeminent solutions for what we can do.
	Well, thanks, Don.
	This is awesome.
	Really enjoyed this conversation.
	I hope that we all feel awakened to what's happening and how insane society is in the corporate world, but also at the same time filled with hope about the future that we actually can create if we move our dollars toward people that don't hate us.
	Best way you can get started doing that, head to publicsq.com, publicsq.com, or you can download the Public Square app on your App Store or Google Play.
	Get started there, create a free account, takes two minutes, and you're off to the races.
	You can find any industry you're looking for.
	Give him your social handle because he's got like
	Like, Don Jr.
	level of, like, hot takes on socials.
	I like it.
	I try.
	What's your handle on social?
	So, Twitter is at Real Michael Seif, S-E-I-F, four letters on my last name.
	Instagram is at Real Michael Seifert, S-E-I-F-E-R-T, my full last name, at Real Michael Seifert on Instagram, at Real Michael Seif on Twitter, I'm at...
	Michael Seifert on Truth and you can follow our company at Official Public SQ on Instagram.
	That's where we update people on what's happening regularly with the company.
	We have an exciting road ahead and grateful to be on the journey with you, Don.
	Awesome, buddy.
	Appreciate you.
	Thank you very much.
	And guys, go check it out and we'll see you soon.
	Okay guys, I hope you like that.
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	Hey guys, thank you so much.
	You are the best.
	I'm actually gonna switch over and go
	Go over to locals right now so I'll do my uh ask me anything over there I actually pre-recorded this earlier just because I'm on a flight I can't I had to take my daughter I have five kids with different spring breaks I had to take her away for a daddy daughter weekend because that
	We're good to go!
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	You can do it right here by sharing this with everyone.
	So you guys are the best.
	Thank you very much.
	I'll see you on Locals or I will see you on Thursday Live.
	Have a good one, guys.

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