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Jan. 27, 2023 - Triggered - Donald Trump Jr
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1 on 1 with the Speaker of the House in Nancy Pelosi's former Office | TRIGGERED Ep. 2
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Welcome back. Donald Trump Jr.
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We have with us the Speaker of the House, Kevin McCarthy.
Obviously, you saw over the last couple weeks the craziness that went about.
We're going to talk all about that, but we're also going to talk about, like, Kevin McCarthy 2.0.
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Good to have you. Well, thank you.
I'm excited about you finally doing a podcast.
You know, it's been a long time coming.
I guess I've been talking smack on every other platform.
Finally, the guys at Rumble were like, hey, would you do something long for them?
I'm like... I don't know if I can do that because I'm used to just doing all the talking, so going back and forth will be interesting.
So now I'm going to judge you on how you do about asking questions instead of answering them.
Well, I wanted to actually sort of be just a conversation.
We've known each other for a long time, so I'll put that out there for the guys.
And I was a supporter of everything that went on over the last few weeks.
Thank you. Not the easiest, because, you know, I get to be called an establishment shill, which is the first time for everything, but talk a little bit about that.
I mean, some really interesting stuff happened, but also, once you won, I think, there's some people that are either pleasantly surprised or pleasantly disappointed, depending on which side of it is.
That's probably true. Well, hopefully it's the Democrats who are disappointed and the Republicans who are surprised by it.
We saw Based McCarthy just last night.
I mean, I thought that question from the reporter about Schiff and Swallow.
Yeah. Talk about that.
You know what's interesting? Someone should do a study on how the reporters ask me questions and the questions that they would ask Nancy Pelosi as Speaker.
It's fundamentally different.
So this reporter comes up And I've been very clear for more than a year and a half that I would not have Swalwell and Schiff on the Intel Committee.
And what's unique is it's different than any other committee.
And this is why you could do it.
Only the speaker has the okay on it.
And I'm not playing like the Democrats.
I'm not playing politics. But on the Intel Committee, it's national security.
This is where the classified, this is where they only meet in the SCIF. This is where they learn things that's happening around the world that nobody else learns.
And we've watched what Adam Schiff did.
He lied, right? When Devin Nunes put out his memo about the law, he used his chair and said, no, Devin's wrong.
The inspector general came out and said, no, you knew you were wrong and you said it.
You've got John Radcliffe with the DNI, right?
Director of National Intelligence.
When we find the laptop of Hunter Biden right before the election, There's no intel that says this is Russia collusion.
He goes out as the chair of Intel and says, oh, it's all made up.
I saw it. I mean, I did...
What did he do to you? I did nine hours in front of that committee.
They knew it was nonsense.
I mean, one of the greatest moments, perhaps, of restraint in my life was sitting like catty-corner to Adam Schiff as he's calling me a traitor for nine hours.
Like... That wasn't easy.
I'll leave it at that, but like...
Remember the whistleblower?
He said, oh, you have no idea this person came forward?
Oh, no. They met with him.
They had it all planned. You know, look, Hakeem Jeffries, the minority leader, he sends me a letter and says, will you put him on?
I understand him wanting to defend his members, but I've got to put the country first.
Integrity matters, so he's not going on because he lied.
And then Swalwell has a relationship with a Chinese spy.
I can't even believe they advocate for this.
And this is what's interesting.
The FBI comes to Congress once Pelosi puts Swawo on Intel.
Why? Because they come and tell her, he's got a relationship with a Chinese spy.
You can't have him here. So it wasn't just us worried about it.
It was the FBI even.
Well, but it's so obvious also.
Now, I have a theory, obviously. The media trying to defend the notion of someone who could be compromised, right?
The FBI may say, well, he cooperated.
Well, that doesn't mean the Chinese...
The CCP does not have a file on this guy that they could leverage at any moment.
Who knows? I mean, we've seen how he performs on national TV. Who knows what he does, like, you know, behind the scenes, right?
Well, think about it. Black male is a person at any time.
She met him...
When he was a city councilman.
She raised money for him.
She put interns in his office.
She, knowingly, as a Chinese spy, and what's the first thing once they said that the FBI don't?
She leaves the country.
Of course she does. What's scary about it is watching the press, though, so go hard defending him because there's no real reason, right?
And you did a great job of this, which was not like, I'm not letting any Democrats on there.
No. There's 200 people to choose from.
Why them? Exactly. And the answer, in my opinion, is because they would leak the shit out of anything that was going on in the Intelligence Committee.
And there's a difference. And I know that because sitting there for nine hours...
You know, they took my phones.
They took my lawyer's phones.
We had no comms with the outside world.
I get out from that day in the House Intelligence Committee, being like, at least according to SHIP on TV, tried for treason, you know, a crime punishable by death.
Like, just, you know, for me, that's like an average Tuesday right now, right?
I get out at like 7 o'clock, 7.30 at night, and I open up Twitter and I scroll back, you know, 12 hours ago at 9 a.m.
during the first bathroom break, Adam Schiff, it wasn't Adam Schiff, but you know, a source close to, like a source close to the Intelligence Committee, they would literally be leaking You can't have that.
But think about what we're missing here.
The Intel Committee should be, why didn't we know about what would happen in Afghanistan, Iran, all these things missed because they made it political.
So what I'm doing is taking the politics out of it, putting it back to where it's supposed to be.
I'm actually going to have the Republicans and Democrats who are on it Take courses together on AI and quantum that they have created for the generals in our military.
Because what they're supposed to be doing is protecting this nation.
And if you want to play politics, I'm not doing what the Democrats did, like they removed Marjorie Greene for no reason, but they removed her for all committees.
They could have other committees.
They just can't get the security clearance.
They don't have the integrity to be on Intel.
I saw the New York Times thing, I think, at the time, which was like, you know, Nancy Pelosi removes Jim Jordan because he's such a radical yada yada.
And the headline about you removing people who are known leaguers, people who lied to the American public, people who had relationships with Chinese spies, They can't believe you're doing this.
It's so shocking. Speaking of that, let's talk about Jim Jordan.
Obviously, someone who you've been in Congress with for a while, someone who probably didn't always have the greatest relationship, but during the last few weeks was actually one of your staunchest advocates.
Talk about that change.
And by the way, I don't think anyone You know, at least in the know, right?
There's sort of, there's the Twitter know, and social media know, and influencer know, and then like actual DC know, and those two things are really different.
But I think anyone in the actual know probably would have never been like, Jim Jordan's going to lead, you know, the Senate or the House Judiciary Committee, which is going to be a great spot for him.
Talk about the evolution of that relationship.
You know, it's interesting. Jim and I came into Congress together.
We were really close. And as we progressed, there was challenges.
And what's interesting, four years ago, he ran against me for leader.
And this is the interesting part.
We never lost a friendship.
I didn't really feel it running against me.
It was an open seat, running for leader, and I won.
I won overwhelmingly.
Then we go in to do steering committee, right, selection.
And Jim hadn't even applied for oversight.
I'm sitting in steering. I get up and leave the room.
I don't tell anybody in the room. And I call Jim.
I go, what are you doing?
He goes, I'm working out. I said, you need to get over here.
He goes, why? I said, because you're the very best person to be a head of oversight.
He goes, well, no.
I don't care, Jim.
I want to find the best people and put them on the bus.
And it was the best. And in steering, they all said, what are you doing?
I said, he's the very best person.
And what happened was, it's kind of like the old team of rivals.
We have only made the country stronger working together.
And now we come around this way.
He's chair of judiciary.
I put him in charge of the weaponization select committee.
We haven't had something like this in 1970.
Who's best to go look after what the FBI and everybody else has been doing?
Jim has been doing a lot. But the reason why he's in there nominated, we have worked hand in hand together.
We know his strength and my strength, and together we create synergy.
Yeah, and that's the interesting thing, again, the people sort of out of the know.
They had their favorites, you know, I'm like, if you thought that, you know, Kevin didn't do well on the first bout at losing like 19 people, like, that guy's going to lose 80.
You know what I mean? Like, so everyone has their dream, and I think that's, you know, the inside baseball at DC, it's sort of like business.
Everyone wants 100%.
It just doesn't work that way.
You never get 100%. What we've got to do is take the wins that we get and do it.
And again, I think you come back to the next...
But the thing, too, is you want to find...
Everybody has different talent. You want to get the very best person on the right seat on the bus, right?
Jim will sit there and tell you, I don't want to be a leader.
I want to be the head of judiciary.
This is where I want to cross-examine somebody.
I want to go after it. And he's better at it than I am.
That's the right place for him.
Well, and there's a part of that job, what people don't understand even about the speaker job, like...
The reason you and I know each other is because we've run into each other in like, bumble hell, like, you know, God knows where.
How many nights a week or a year are you fundraising?
Like just out in... Every single day.
And you know, but the thing is...
No, no. We're everywhere.
But the thing, too, is why we know each other so well.
We may be somebody else, but we're calling one another.
I need you to call this person.
Recruit them to write. We've got to find the best.
And this is the interesting thing.
In the last four years, you know, the Senate has only lost seats.
The governor's lost seats for Republicans.
But the only place to want has been the House.
And it's been our candidates. And you've been a big help with that.
And we've won in New York, California, Oregon, on the border of Texas and Tucson.
And we've expanded the party.
More women. More African American Republicans at any time since the Reconstruction.
More Hispanic Republicans.
That's what this party is about.
We've become the working class party.
And we've opened it up to new opportunities.
But, you know, credit words do.
I mean, you've shown up to those districts and done it.
And there's other guys that, you know, they want to be Speaker of the House, but, you know, they want the title.
They don't want the day job. And what people don't understand is like so much of that day job is that.
It is. It's the fundraising.
It's every district. It's not being at home.
It's not even being at your home away from home in D.C. And it sucks.
And so, you know, I saw a lot of people, well, we want Jim Jordan.
I go, I know Jim Jordan doesn't want that job.
Yeah. Because I've had these conversations with Jim Dorky.
It's like, that's his idea of hell.
Now, he'll be a great person questioning.
I mean, he was in some of the things on the Republican side when I was going through.
I did nine hours in front of the house.
Intel, I did 50 hours total for him.
But you know what they did when they did impeachment?
I literally moved Jim and put him on Intel because we needed that.
Devin Nunez needed that extra help.
Yeah, Devin Nunez was the one guy You know, so Devin and I have been friends long before we ever got elected.
We don't live far apart from each other, and because we're both conservatives, we're in the conservative movement, we were always buddies, right?
And he comes to Congress before me, but he was the first person, here he is in Intel, and I was sitting here, he would come and tell me, hey, this isn't right what they're saying.
And he was the only one.
When everybody else, you had other Republicans, oh, I'm really worried about what they're saying about President Trump.
No, he said what they're doing.
And they vilified him.
They went after him. And I see that, because I get it.
I mean, they did it, you know, the same thing with Flynn and these things.
They do it. And, hey, even me.
Like, I was in the crosshairs at the time, but I still had this notion of, no, America is what we've been told to believe it is.
Unfortunately, it's not. I fight to make it so.
But, you know, these guys would say, well, Flynn, he was a traitor.
I was like, well, the FBI is saying it and the CIA is saying it.
And it's written up in the New York Times.
There's got to be something to it.
We've got to pull back. Where there's smoke, there must be some fire.
Maybe don't go all in to defend that.
And the reality is, like, same with Devin.
I was like... They were actually 100% right, but like, we believe these institutions are, they're bipartisan, and they're totally above the price, and it's all BS. But everything they accused us of, I was going, how could you make this stuff up?
It's because they were doing it.
I mean, I look today at what happened at Twitter.
I don't believe Elon thought they were doing that much.
Now he gets in the middle of Twitter, and he's just, all he's doing is releasing the information, and now people are trying to vilify him.
Well, but you know what's interesting with Twitter?
Like, it was sort of amazing, because it came back, and like, We have Truth Social, and it's been a great platform to say what you want.
But Twitter, I actually like being in that fight because I'm sort of adversarial, and that's what I do, and I've sort of made a reputation of it.
But when he even started talking about the takeover, it's like they were burning the documents.
My engagement went through the roof, the files went through.
You had no growth, and all of a sudden...
I had no growth for years. I was getting, and they were like, you know, four years ago, I'd say, listen, they're screwing with the algorithm.
They're messing up. Well, how do you know? It's like, because yesterday I was getting 10,000 retweets and today I'm getting three.
Like not 3,000, like three single digit.
And you knew it and it was obvious.
Then he took over and for like two months I was getting great growth and engagement.
But it does seem like, and again, I don't know if he's maybe not as focused on it.
Yeah. But that engagement and the engagement of a lot of other conservative accounts has gone back down to like pre-Elon levels.
Yeah, we got to watch. We got to see that.
I'll talk to him about that. I mean, it's interesting just because it felt great to have a free speech platform and we have like an actual competitor and I stay on the platform because I want to engage.
Well, I see the engagement. I don't want to ever see one of these platforms.
Yeah, you want to be on. Well, when I talked to Devin over at The Truth, you can see the engagement is greater than any other platform that you have.
Right. It's just people are passionate about it.
This is where they want to go. They may have change of policy, but the reality, the employees at Twitter are still going to be 99%.
You see it in the donations.
And he's seen that. I hope they recognize that because all the guys that were actually excited about what was going on, like, hey, just give me a chance to compete on a level playing field.
I'll even take a little disadvantage because by nature of the following, I'm already at a disadvantage.
Like, that seems to have gone back down to almost worse.
There's guys, Andy.
Yeah. Like, he'll tell you, like, it's worse for him than pre-U.R. days, which is odd.
We'll have to see because he wouldn't know.
He must not know about that because he's really changed so much and be able to come out and attack.
But what we find is what we're doing with this weaponization.
This is a committee that people would call the church committee after a former senator.
Explain that, right? People don't understand.
Like, I heard church committee. I didn't even know what it was.
It sounds like religious, right?
But it's actually not all.
It's named after a senator back in the 70s.
And what happened, we didn't have the Intel Committee back then.
And the Intel Committee's responsibility is to oversee all the FBI, the CIA, all these agencies, right?
Before, they were just running wild.
So they create this church committee.
That's fact, by the way. Yeah, and they go back and they look, hey, these guys are doing all this stuff in other countries, everywhere else in here.
We've got to rein them in.
And part of after they rein them in, they say, we need this committee.
Well, now we've watched what happened again.
You didn't fully believe that it was all happening.
You know, when Devin would come tell me, he'd say, oh yeah, that's right, but maybe you're a little far.
No, it's worse than what they told you.
I was a victim of it.
I don't want to use the word victims.
I hate that mentality. But, like, I was a target of it.
And I still was like, well, it can't be this bad.
And it is. I mean, they literally just arrested the FBI agent that was one of the leads of Russia, Russia, Russia hoax.
Being paid by Russian oligarchs.
For colluding with Russia.
Yeah. I mean- You can't make this up.
It's so typical of the, you know, the Saul Alinsky, you know, rules for radicals.
Like, accuse them of doing all the things- What you're doing.
And we've seen it time and time again.
We saw it with the sanctimony, you know, from Joe Biden with the classified documents.
He would never do it, except he's got it all over his house, all over a house that Hunter rents, all over the Penn Center that's funded $54 million by China.
You know, that's really concerning here because the other thing that we just created, and this is a thing people have got to understand.
In the first week, we had a very big bipartisan vote.
We created a select committee on China.
146 Democrats voted with us.
But when you think about what China's doing, why is China...
Paying millions of dollars to the pencil.
To Joe Biden's think tank. Okay, but what happens there?
Remember what also happened there.
When Joe Biden became president, the FBI was looking at China and Chinese in America.
The president of Penn goes and tells, hey, you know, that's racist.
You shouldn't do it. The FBI stops doing it, right?
Who becomes an ambassador?
The President of Penn. Where did our Secretary of State actually work?
For the Penn, for the Biden Penn Center.
How many people from there are actually working in the White House?
Why would, I believe, I don't have the exact fact, but that university, and Biden will say, oh, they didn't give it to me.
No, they gave it to the university who gave it to him, right?
The most money the Chinese have given to any university in the process in this short time.
Yeah, I mean, listen, the Chinese- Does that not influence you?
They're not stupid.
Yeah. Like, you know, funding a Joe Biden think tank is sort of like, I mean, you know, seriously?
I imagine there's not a lot of thinking going on in anything involving Joe Biden.
How long was he out of office to raise that much money?
Well, but now you have documents from the Senate that were classified.
That's... Okay, that is very...
That is so different than anybody else in elected office with documents because if you're a member of Khan, I'm part of the gang of eight, you never are allowed to take a document out of the SCIP. So if you're not allowed to take the document, the only one who's got old Berger who put it in his pockets and hid and got caught, you know, his pants or his shirt.
So how did that come out as a synonym?
I had that with my testimony. They're like, well, if you want to review your testimony before we try to go word for word with it and throw you in jail for putting a comma in the wrong spot, I mean, I had to come back to the building.
I couldn't get my own testimony without anything else just to even see it so that he could have the documents from the Senate.
And how many years ago was that?
Yeah, the Penn Center didn't just magically appear the day he left the Vice President.
Where were the documents stored in between?
But it's not even there. The other question that I think is so interesting, because they say, oh, well, the attorneys found it.
Well, who told the attorneys to even go look there?
Correct. And why do they have access?
How come the HRT? You know, the hostage rescue team doesn't exactly do search warrants, right?
It feels a little different for Mar-a-Lando, which is why, again, the church committee or the weapon— I want to call it the weaponization of government because that's what it's been.
But think of all these years, right?
President Trump is so different, right?
They knew it was there. They were negotiating.
Your dad told me, they said, we already had a lock on it.
They want another padlock. So he put another padlock on it.
They knew where it was.
They knew that it was secure.
Guarded by Secret Service.
Yeah, and then, yeah, he had Secret Service.
Yeah, no one could push it, but nobody else is going in and out.
And the big one, you know, that you seem to lose is that, you know, the president also has the ability to declassify those documents.
He's the only one in the process.
Now, they had a little thing.
Obama did something for the vice president.
But these are from the Senate and the others.
But for him to say he had no regrets.
Well, because...
And this is, I think, something you'll probably even feel more of now as the speaker, right?
I mean, it's different.
The attacks from the left of those in power versus the cover.
You know, I mean, that is something...
And I feel like it's... You have to be of strong will to be able to put up with that.
People always say, how do you deal with it?
I've just gotten you. I got the Trump gene, I guess.
I'm lucky that it doesn't bother.
Like, when I'm making them mad, like, I'm like, like, I'm happy.
Like, not a lot of people have, how do you get through that when it's going to be day in and day out?
You know, if you did the exact same thing, just with different, you know, a D and an R reverse.
Oh, if you treat it differently.
They'll, they'll try to kill you.
The press conference, I would have walked in, they would have applauded me.
No, I'm actually surprised.
You handled it actually so well, and I'm glad because our people are seeing it.
And whether it's the committees, going after the 87,000 IRS agents.
The very first week. That was first week.
I mean, these are big things because, yeah, they're not going...
There's like 500 billionaires in America.
Yeah. That's not for billionaires.
That's to look at your $601 Venmo payment.
Exactly. And yet, those are the people that are not looking at what's coming across the border and the billions there.
And where does it stop?
Yeah, the fentanyl, the border.
But you know, in the last month, we set a whole new record.
But we also set a record for the people we're catching on the terrorist watch list.
You can add up all the people we caught during your father's administration.
They beat it in one month.
So let's talk about the border, because that's a big one, obviously.
And people, it's huge for our side, but it's also, literally, they're not doing anything about it.
I mean, it's- No, they're welcoming.
You're talking about terrorists. You have a human trafficking crisis.
You have a sex trafficking crisis.
You have a drug trafficking crisis.
The fentanyl crisis has created, you know, every state's a border state.
And yet, Secretary Mayorkas, oh, there's no problem.
It's just a dereliction of duty, what he's doing in that position.
Kamala, the border czar, she'll show up within a thousand miles of the border.
She's ignored it. But my art is to say that it's secure.
No one believes that, right?
This is what I believe. After watching what they did with your father about impeachment, use it politically, I'll never use it politically.
That doesn't mean we won't use it politically.
So if I've already asked, the committee's already gone, we're going to investigate why is the border like that, which could lead to impeachment inquiry.
But what people have to understand what's happening on this border, it's wide open like it's never been before.
They tell you how many gotaways, 250,000, you're talking more than 4 million.
Well, those are the only ones that count, right?
But fentanyl, 300 people will die today.
That's the equivalent of an airliner crashing every day in America, and they're doing nothing about it.
And it's coming from China through the border here.
And what's happening is, it's killing our very brightest, right?
The number one killer of 18 to 45.
Those are your most productive years.
Those are the years when they serve in the military.
Those are the years where they have the biggest future.
To me, it actually feels, it's not like these are just drug dealers.
It actually feels to me like this is a PSYOP type, this is how to- They're doing it on purpose.
Yes. I look at the Democrat policy, I look at the action on the border, and I literally say that it's as though the Chinese are in charge because I couldn't think of another way to more effectively destroy our republic than implementing Democrat policies.
And it's destroying the generation that is the greatest strength in Europe.
Yeah. The other thing that people don't quite realize is happening, Every city is a border city now.
I'm from California.
I'm up north in Bakersfield.
I go to the Central Valley. Just last week, we had a cartel come up and murder a family.
In California? In California.
You know what they shot? They shot a baby in the face.
Cartel style. That doesn't make the news.
You know, I mean, you see that you saw a couple of shootings in California this week.
Yeah. And like the second it wasn't, you know, a conservative white male with an AR-15, it's like it's as though it didn't really happen.
I mean, it may have happened, but like it's not really worth reporting on.
I mean, that the cartels could be infiltrating the U.S., that we're helpless to do it.
They shoot a baby in the face, and I don't even hear about it.
I do this a lot, right?
Imagine the average person who's consuming a couple minutes of news a day.
They have no idea, and it's even a problem.
We don't have operational control of our own border.
The cartels do. The cartels are now making more money.
It's not just on drugs. It's moving the people.
And do you think those people are all being treated well?
I mean, 52 are dying in a...
In a container. And do they say anything about that?
You've got women being raped as they're coming through.
You've got these young children.
I mean, this is an atrocity, but the policies of this administration are incentivizing this to continue on.
This is what we're going to do different.
We just populated our committees.
Mark Green is now Homeland Chair, and he's going to announce in the next couple of weeks we're actually going to move our hearings from Washington to the border.
And so the Democrats can no longer ignore it, right?
And if you go down to these communities, they'll sit there and they'll tell you that our schools have been closed for 40 days.
Why? Because there's a shootout by the cartels running through, right?
These cities, if you sat back, they would have all Democrats elected.
They're all switching parties because of what has happened and the atrocities that they're seeing, and no one's standing up for them.
But if you're a D.C. sitting behind a desk in here, there's no consequence.
Yes! And when the president went the first time in his more 40 years of being elected, they cleaned it all up so he didn't even see what was happening.
Well, that was the, I mean, that was like the most DC thing ever.
You know what I mean? It's the before and after.
It's like, hey, there's no problem if we don't see it.
The press will only show up then.
They won't cover it otherwise.
So, you know, as you form the committees and I'm looking at the names, I saw a couple that were released yesterday.
I'm like, good. Yeah.
It's not like, and we have plenty of guys.
And I get it. I actually asked, you know, Matt Gates about this years ago.
Yeah. Why don't some of these other guys fight more?
And his answer to me was actually very simple, which is like, you know, hey, for a lot of these guys, this is the big leagues.
You know, they were guys that, you know, they were city council members getting unpaid for years.
They fell into his seat because they had a similar name to the guy that served in Congress 30 years.
And like, they just want to stay there.
Like, when I see the guys that you put in these committees, it's like, yes, like, we're actually going to get something done.
There is really, when we look across, guys and women.
Because I'll tell you, we just put on...
The Democrats removed Marjorie Greene.
She was the only person that has never had a committee.
So she's going to be on oversight.
Jamie Comer's there. Got a lot of information.
She's going to be on the select committee on COVID. I mean, think about this.
The atrocity that we went through with COVID, the Democrats are in the majority and they never once had a hearing on where it originated.
Wouldn't you want to know? Well, yeah, that was one of the things I got canceled for because I was like the first guy to be like, not maybe the first, but like one of the early guys with a following to be like, hey, like, do you ever think maybe it came from the lab in the town that the virus originated?
Like, do you think maybe that's the most plausible answer?
And of course it was. But that we could lie and that Fauci could get away.
And then his wife's on the other side that's sort of doing the oversight.
I'm like, there was no checks and balances in this thing.
Well, think about how they treated your father when he stopped the airlines coming to our country.
I mean, what did China do?
They first stopped their domestic flights but kept their international flights to try to move it someplace else.
And remember what all the Democrats did?
They attacked your father for protecting it.
It's xenophobia. I was down there because everybody else was giving him advice not to do it.
And he was the one person that said, no, I'm going to stand for this country first.
And he was right. So the committees are formed.
You've got great people off. Yes.
But it's still D.C., right?
There's nothing bipartisan about it.
It's nothing, you know, the agencies have been weaponized, whether that's the FBI. I mean, I think, you know, it's obvious at this point, right?
It's clear they've gotten a hold of those institutions.
How do we keep the ball moving forward?
How do we actually, you know, we got two years and hopefully it's four or six or twelve or infinity based on the insanity of the other side right now, but like How do you prevent them from just running out the clock?
We've seen them be so effective.
Well, we know they're going to try this.
We know where the president's at today.
He's in a much weaker spot.
We've got a debt ceiling coming and he just doesn't want to negotiate.
Even though with $31 trillion is crazy.
We have to be tenacious.
And this is the one thing I'll say.
If you learned anything from me in the speaker fight, I'll never give up.
I might not get it the first time, but I'm not going away.
I will stay with it. And I tell you, with the Jamie Comer, with the Jim Jordan, we've been doing our research.
We've started this ahead of time sending the letters.
They're going to try everything they can.
And they're not going to hand it to us.
So we have to be smart.
We have to have our right strategy.
And the one thing we need the American public is to stay with us.
And I think they do. I said this the other night and some people give you, I actually think for the first time in my, we're actually sort of winning on the issues.
When you see the hills to die on for the, you know, the open border policies, the, you know, allowing three-year-olds to change their gender, men competing against women in sports.
You know, that's their platform right now.
Now, you know, again, there are moderate Democrats in America.
I don't know that there are any in D.C. And it's gone so insane, I actually think we're winning on those issues.
Now, where I think we struggle is in elections because we also haven't played the game that they do.
I mean, we... It's less these days, unfortunately, about the candidate or the issues than it is about how you're gaming the election system within each state, how they're doing ballot harvesting.
How do we fight that battle also?
Because there's nothing worse than being like, I know we're winning on the issues because if I say something on Twitter, they're like, I can't believe it.
I hate Don Jr. with a freaking passion.
But he's actually right about this.
How do we reconcile that?
Well, you don't just need integrity in the Intel Committee.
You need it in election integrity, too.
Now, we've been successful in a number of states that have passed election laws.
But think about this. We've won the last two cycles in California, and California has the worst.
I mean, you can harvest ballots.
They send everybody a ballot.
You know, there's a report that just came back.
I've got to look into it, that there's 10 million ballots still missing from the last one.
Minor details. Yeah. How do you do this?
What you have to do, especially in those states too, if those are the rules, you've got to play by them.
I agree with that. You know what I mean?
But you get better candidates. I feel like we're not playing by any...
We're playing t-ball while they're playing hardball.
And even if we're winning on the issues, we're not getting the guys out.
I will tell you, we've gotten much better.
Look what we did in New York, right?
I give a lot of credit to Lee Zeldin.
He ran a great campaign. And it was about crime.
The Democrats... They want to defund the police.
This is what has happened to them.
But we beat the DCCC chair, the head of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee.
That hasn't happened in 46 years.
Mike Lawler is an amazing candidate, right?
And we have more than five members that are sitting in seats that won by more than 10 points.
We won in Oregon. You look at Juan Siskimani.
So what you have to do in those places, you're going to have to overperform, but you've got to reach the people, and then you've got to have individuals making sure they're paying attention to the ballots.
Well, so in the congressional seats, I can see how that can work.
There's just more to work. It's the smaller, yeah.
When you're talking about either statewide or national races, that's when you lose your rent.
Someone can go to a door and knock on the door of someone who couldn't tell you who's even running.
It's like, don't worry, we'll call your ballot.
It'll be great. Well, that's why with technology today, if someone does an absentee ballot like we haven't, I collect them and then I follow them online for people, right?
You can follow your own ballot and make sure where it's at, has it been checked, where it's going, and I got a lot of people doing that.
But we have a lot of good states who have changed from this.
I mean, first thing that we should have here in Congress to be able to pass, we should have voter ID. If you've got to have an ID to get on an airplane, why wouldn't you want to trust the greatest institution of voting for our republic than anything else?
Look, if I had an election and I lost, I want to understand that I trust.
Okay, I lost fair and square. The socialists in Europe are, like, way ahead of this, and even they're like, yeah, it seems sort of obvious, and we're, like...
They do it everywhere. Yeah.
You've got to look at the voter rolls, too.
Like, in L.A., there was a study that there was more than a million people...
On the voters' rolls, more than actually old enough to register to vote there.
And they never change them, right?
So if you have a voter roll, and then like Gavin Newsom, he just sends everybody a ballot whether they request it or not.
So I have people texting me, look, I live in this house, but I got four different families because they lived here before.
Here's their ballots just sitting here.
Oh, I think it's 15, 16 ballots to their home.
Yeah, you can fill them in.
Hopefully they throw them out. Yeah.
We should clean those up.
You should have to show an ID. I just think for that, and I do believe the same day voter registration gives you a problem because a person go here and here and here.
So why don't you just have to cut off 30 days before?
That's plenty enough time if you care about voting to be able to make that happen.
And then what the Democrats are really doing, I think about this ranked system.
That I'm not voting for one person.
I'm one, two, three, four.
So someone can get the most votes and not win.
Yeah, sort of like Alaska, right?
They feel like they can pick and choose the way to do elections so they get the end result that they want.
So if you come in third, you win.
What? I got a lot of second votes.
I got a lot of third votes. What does that mean?
Okay, so speaking of votes, how have things gone with, you know, the 20 sort of holdouts?
You know, I actually think, people will be shocked by this, but it's gone very well.
And really, with the Democrats, they'd never show that, but that's really democracy at its work.
Well, I loved it in the sense that I knew I had more faith in what you were going to do than a lot of people.
But again, I knew that you were working with my team, not just weeks before, but months before, to be like, hey, we're going to do these things and do it.
I mean, you're the first speaker, I think in my lifetime, that wasn't just immediately pro-amnesty, which is sort of shocking for a conservative, right?
And that was the case.
You're winning those guys over, but what's the relationship with those guys now?
And again, people don't understand, again, the difference between sort of the social media fundraising, like, I'm going to do something for the camera.
There's some out there wanting to do it for the camera, but there's others.
I'll tell you, like Chip Roy, he was there for policy questions.
And like any relationship, if you have conflict and you work through it, you only have a stronger bond.
You know, the Bible tells us, you know, Iron sharpens iron, right?
And it's better that we have that discussion now than later in this year.
Now we're going to be more productive.
Now we're more one unit.
Now we're more united. Now we're more focused.
The Democrats, they don't know what's coming at them.
Yeah, and I think that's what they always did well, which is if they got 51% on an issue, they're all in, and they do it, and they take the next win, and they take the next win.
We could be 99% and blow it.
Democrats just follow. They just follow.
Nancy Pelosi says one thing.
But this is what is going to happen here.
It's great that you're here in the Capitol, the People's House, because once you know what's different, people can now actually come in here.
People don't realize the public wasn't invited here.
You open back up. One of the first orders of business was removing the magnetometers.
Not at the main entrance, but to get on the floor.
Yeah, for members of Congress.
What does it say about the Democrats that they don't trust the Republican counterparts to not shoot up the floors of Congress?
I don't even understand that mentality, but how do you As a republic, how do you deal with people that think of you that way?
How are you going to work together?
You'll commit harm on them.
I understand words are violence.
That was their mindset.
The other thing that's going to happen this week, for the first time in seven years, a bill's going to come to the floor with an open rule.
And so what does that mean? It means any member can offer an amendment.
You think, Mr.
Smith goes to Washington, that always happens.
No. For seven years, it's never happened here.
This is the change that we've been able to make as we went through all this.
So it doesn't matter where your member of Congress is from, maybe they're just on one committee, your voice is going to be heard.
Maybe the bill didn't go through your committee, but now they're going to have an opportunity to put an amendment to it, to have your voice Have a say.
Watching even during the fight, and again, I knew more, so some of it was like, okay, the theatrics, it's getting a little bit old, but watching, it's a disaster that there's actually debate on the floors of Congress.
I'm like, I don't know, is that...
It's healthy. Because the media and the left, and honestly, even some of the weak...
They just want to rubber stamp the DNC talking points.
That becomes law.
There is no debate. The people aren't actually represented.
And that's what's sort of unique and what I like.
Again, it's been three weeks, but everyone campaigns with...
You know, the same old talking points.
This is what you're going to get. No one actually acts on it.
Trump was unique in that. You're doing the same.
Most people would have probably never paid attention to the vote.
And once it started going one, two, three, we were getting viewership C-span we never had before, right?
No one has had to go through this for like 150 years, but we have a small margin.
No one's ever won the speakership in the last 70 years with such a small margin too.
So that job's an important job, so it shouldn't be easy to win either.
So, you went through a similar sort of situation in like, I guess it was 15.
Yeah. Right? Now, I wish you wouldn't have dropped out then because they gave us Paul Ryan, which was probably...
No, no, I wasn't.
Hey, like, this is why we didn't get the wall in the first two years of Trump and stuff like that.
I mean, the guys that were too afraid to actually buck that system, we end up with that because of it.
But like, talk about that.
You know, the mentality of that, you know, I guess you dropped out after a couple rounds.
Well, what happened in 15...
It's a different situation, but what was the difference between 15 and now?
What did you learn from 15 that you applied?
Well, having 15 made me stronger this time.
Because in 15, I was just the majority leader, and then the Pope comes and Boehner announces he's going to leave right in the middle, right?
And so it became chaotic.
We were going through, and people said they need something else.
And I just thought, okay, well...
The conference is at a different place, right?
I said something wrong in an interview like that.
It's never happened before. But that is the wrong time, wrong place.
So I thought, all right, this is giving conference a problem.
I'll step back for the good of the conference.
And then I become leader.
You know, for two election cycles, all we've done is win, right?
I had everybody two years prior vote for me.
We put out the commitment to America.
So in my view was, listen, We were in the majority and someone was just going to hand it to me.
I was in the minority and we just won the majority.
So I knew what we needed to do.
I had built the team so I thought I'm best prepared to be able to serve.
And you all know it. And then you have the vote right after the election.
I won 91% of the conference.
So I just think from that standpoint too, just like when your father ran and won the primary, it was never Trumpers decided not.
No. He's our nominee.
You get in line. So from that same standpoint, it only made me stronger.
And if you're going to make me battle for it, I'm going to battle for it.
Because my father always told me, it's not how you start, it's how you finish.
And that's the part where Yeah, I like what I'm hearing from people out there that doubted me.
I mean, I see on Twitter... Oh man, after watching that thing last night, I was going to pay you for a Viking helmet.
We can get you...
Maybe you wear it to the State of the Union.
That's got to be coming up pretty soon.
If Nancy Pelosi can rip up the State of the Union, you should be able to wear a Viking helmet again.
But the one thing I would say there is...
I am prepared better because you've gone through the fire.
And I know what the Democrats will do to me.
I know what they'll say about me. I don't care anymore.
It's kind of like Winston Churchill. I don't care what history is going to write because it's my intention to write it.
I think that's the biggest thing you know I learned in a lot of this when people like how do you once you stop caring what they think you can't learn it unless you go through it yeah and you have to do it and again not everyone has it's not easy right not everyone has that capability to just stop caring you read about it every day I mean I have people that are close to me like every day oh my god are you okay I'm like I don't even know what you're talking about yeah I don't even you don't read them they're like oh there's an investigation I'm like oh that's just Tuesday Like, it didn't change anything in my day at this point.
But, you know, again, I guess that also probably takes a...
But you also know who you are, and you know your own truth.
So when they make these lies up about you, you just laugh.
In my view, I look like this.
Those people who know me know what the truth is.
Those people who want to believe something just on there, I've just watched what this media has done.
Forget it. I'm going to fight for the American public.
I'm going to sit and do what I believe is right, and at the end of the day, somebody else can judge me then.
Yeah, and I think when you do that, they'll actually fight for you.
Yes. And I'm seeing that in this last, you know, even the sort of the shift in sort of the mentality.
Again, I'm more close to the MAGA base, but, you know, you wouldn't know this based on DC newspapers, but that's still probably like 90% of Republicans at this point, right?
So, you know, they're seeing that and like, oh, wow, you know, this is Kevin 2.0.
Like, holy crap, I didn't expect it.
But, you know, again, I think if you do it right, you can actually be rewarded by those people.
And yet, if you look at the DC press, it's as though...
So, you know, separating those two things, the real versus the fake.
You cannot sit back and read the New York Times, the Washington Post, everything else.
I mean, they're never going to give you a break.
I don't care what they say about me.
Who I read is go out to the American public each and every day.
You listen to them.
So what made you get into this in the first place?
This is a cool story because you won the lottery.
Look, I'm from Bakersfield, California.
I'm Irish and Italian. My father was a firefighter.
He moved furniture in days off.
We didn't have wealth, right?
And so when I got out of high school, Mine's a similar story, Ken.
My family didn't have wealth.
I didn't have the academics.
I didn't have the athletics to get a scholarship.
I went to junior college, which was a great school.
But while I'm going there, I meet this guy.
That owns a liquor store but has a car dealer's license.
I'll let you figure out how I met him.
But one day I say, I'll give you a hundred bucks if you take me to L.A. Because L.A. has these car auctions.
You've got to be a dealer to get in there. And Bakersfield is two hours away.
So I start going down there and I start flipping cars to pay my way through college.
I find out later it's illegal, but I don't know why I'm doing it.
I've been an entrepreneur, right? By the way, just so you understand, we may have to cut this out.
Nancy Pelosi is going to try to figure out how to infuse you for doing something.
Exactly. So when you go to community college, what you do on the weekends, you go visit your buddies away at school.
My best friend was a running back for Stanford.
I grew up to Stanford. I had some buddies at USC. I had some buddies at San Diego State.
So this weekend, I was going to go to San Diego State.
So I go pick up my friend.
We go to the grocery store to cash a check so I have some money.
The day before the lottery starts in California, so as I'm cashing the check, my first time, I buy a lottery ticket.
And I won the lottery.
Now, it's before there were millions.
The most you could win was $5,000.
I think it's like, is it 1985?
I'm 20 years old. It's Friday night.
I just won $5,000.
And I end up 10 minutes from Tijuana for the weekend, right?
So I come back. I take my folks to dinner.
I get my brother and sister each on the box.
I take the majority of the rest of the money. I put it in one stock.
Because one thing you'll learn, I'm a risk taker.
I make 30% of my money in six weeks.
So the end of the semester comes.
I take my money on the market, I refinance some of my cars, and I go and I try to buy a franchise, but no one will sell me one because I'm 20 years old.
So just like in the speaker's race, I never give up.
So I go and I open a deli.
My cousin had a yogurt shop.
He'd ridden this place before, so I sublet this place.
And there's three lessons I learned in my business.
I was the first to work, last to leave, last to be paid.
But you know what? I had it for almost two years.
Pretty successful. I now have enough money that I can pay my whole way through college as long as I go to Cal State.
And nobody in my family had finished a four-year degree yet.
So I sell my business. I'm going to college.
I open up the local newspaper.
And the local congressman says, become an intern in Washington, DC. Well, he'd be lucky to have me.
So I apply, and you know what he does?
He turns me down. So you know what the end of the story is?
I'm now elected to the seat I couldn't get an internship for, and now I'm the 55th Speaker of the House.
Only in America can that happen.
That's amazing. You don't give up.
And you know what? What taught me each time, if there was an obstacle, Don't quit because it's an obstacle.
Find a way around it.
That's what this country embeds in you and rewards you for doing.
Yeah, and I feel like that's also something that's missing in so much of Congress, where people are just, they've just been, they've never actually had that hustle.
Now, again, I understand where I come from in my background.
I get it. But, like, my father made sure I worked minimum wage jobs.
Oh, yeah. And I could drive a D10 Caterpillar.
And, like, you know, I also worked for tips, which is something I think that's really important that everyone should understand.
It is. That aspect of things.
But in D.C., I feel like so much of that is lacking.
No one's ever had to make payroll.
No one's signed the front of a check as opposed to the back.
So it's sort of unique.
And again, you always come to expect that to not exist in these offices.
Yeah. I know, but if you spend a little time with our conference, you will find there's many stories just like that.
I mean, there's stories of Juan Siskamani, who immigrates when he's 11 years old.
He wins his primary.
He calls me almost in tears because he's two blocks away from the house.
He mowed the lawn and washed the car with his father to earn extra money.
His father drove the bus, and now he's a U.S. comment.
Morgan the Trail. A Navy SEAL for 14 years, right?
Risking his life all the time.
Or Mike Garcia, right?
Who F-18s, who runs in a seat in LA that Biden carries by 15 points.
I mean, people thought no Republican could win, but no, he wins it time and again.
Because it's just... Lori Chavez-Dorema in Oregon, right?
I mean, there's so many. Jen Kiggins in Virginia, who was a helicopter pilot.
Her husband was an F-18 pilot, started having children.
She becomes a nurse practitioner.
None of them had it easy, but that's why they're successful here.
I guess we've got to highlight those stories more because it feels like every story on the other side, if it's even remotely unique, and frankly, most of them aren't.
I watch some of them now and they had a trust fund and they had another job, but they got appointed somewhere.
But, you know, look, Jim Jordan, Yeah, it's amazing.
This guy, what was it, 142-1 or something in his wrestling?
But he takes that same mentality now.
So when people say, oh, is he going to get everything?
Just wait. It may take him a while, but he'll find it.
I had a buddy that wrestled at Ohio State, and I was like, well, how good was he?
He was like, He's all American.
Oh, unbelievable.
It's literally like the dumbest.
There's nothing to it. But it didn't stop him from trying to run with it, which is...
Well, you watch. Now, we have a lot of new Republicans you're going to find that are committee chairs.
The Democrats are already bragging that they've raised millions of dollars to go after us and vilify us, right?
Because they want to demonize us.
Because why? They want to protect that Washington is not held accountable.
That's their whole reason.
Why are they afraid? What do they have to hide?
Let's talk about, I mean, the Pentagon loses, what was it, $220 billion?
Yeah. You know, and now we're getting into a budget time and we're talking about some of those things.
So I saw, you know, I think my father's right on this one.
I'd love to hear your thoughts on it. But sort of the Republicans now, we must get rid of Medicare and Social Security.
I'm like, wait a minute. So the one entitlement that people actually pay into for their entire lives.
A, you crush your own people.
I'm like, you know, the Democrats are really good at crushing our people to give free stuff to their people.
We're crushing our own people who...
Actually funded these things for their entire lives.
Don't get me wrong. We won't touch Medicare or Social Security.
No, listen. They just crafted an omnibus that I opposed.
Two senators wrote who are no longer in office.
They jammed us at Christmas for $1.7 trillion and told us we had to vote for it.
The whole time Schumer's been leader has never written a budget.
And now the president sits back and says, well, you need to just lift the debt limit and just do it with nothing.
Well, no. If you have a child and they're charging up the credit card, you don't just keep raising the limit.
You look at where you're spending.
Every household has to do this.
So I'm simply saying, look, let's be responsible.
Let's be reasonable. Let's be sensible.
But let's sit down.
And you're going to tell me out of these trillions of dollars, because this is what has happened.
When the Democrats took over, just those four years, their discretionary spending has gone up 30%.
$400 billion.
You're going to tell me there's no waste out there?
There's no efficiencies? They just print a trillion dollars.
I mean, do they have any concept of what that does?
Well, that's... That's how we got inflation.
Again, if I'm the guy that's a little upset when I'm filling up my tank or when I go to buy eggs, if it bothers me, it probably doesn't change much my day to day.
Imagine what it's doing to a real family and they don't understand that concept or don't even think about it, which is scary.
With the price of gas, who's it hurting?
The working class. It has to drive to get to their jobs.
The eggs. Eggs are unbelievable, the price today.
But it doesn't stop us from sending billions of dollars to countries that hate our guts.
They're sending millions to Tunisia for their ability for more tourism.
Really? We're borrowing this money from China to send it someplace else?
Well, that's the other... I mean, we actually give aid to China who we borrow from and owns and steals from us and costs us probably trillions in IP that they're stealing.
But see, this is what I loved when your father came into power.
They had never had somebody in the office of the president that had a business mind.
I remember they're sitting there and, you know, Korea saying, oh, we need these new missiles or Saudi Arabia to defend.
He goes, okay, but you've got to pay for them.
What? We gotta pay for it?
We thought the American taxpayer.
No, no, no, no. I remember having some of these conversations with him, and he's like, well, have we ever asked for them to pay?
No one ever thought. And they're like, no, we never thought to do it, so ask.
And they're like, okay, we'll pay for it.
And I'm like, wait a minute, that just happened?
They didn't even think about it?
I remember we were up at Camp David.
We're having a meeting in the Situation Room.
Your father gets up to use the restroom.
And so one of the generals there, we're having a discussion, and he goes, he's not in the room, so I have to ask.
Why do we do it this way?
You know, no one had ever done that.
And the uniqueness, too, is I read this article, like, Boeing's really upset because they're losing all this money on the new Air Force One.
Why? Because they negotiated with President Trump.
You know who wins?
The American taxpayer.
Well, that's why I literally, I think I read something this morning just, you know, scrolling through, you know, truth or something.
Putin is now negotiating with the Taliban.
To buy the equipment that we just left.
The Taliban. Now, again, people argue about what the number was.
I've read up to 86 billion.
86 billion is not an insignificant number.
And we're like... I did the math.
It was like $275 per man, woman, and child in America.
Like, do we just give it to them? Now they're selling it to Putin, who's going to use it against Ukraine, who, you know, we're also funding a lot of it.
I'd love to sort of see when, you know, we're at like $130 in that one.
And I understand some of the nuance of it, but like...
Is that always just a blank check, especially when we're leaving 86 billion to the Russians?
No blank check. Where's our strategy?
Why would you fund something without having a strategy of how you're going to win?
That's how you lose wars.
But the interesting thing is, what they left behind in Afghanistan was more Black Hawk helicopters than Australia has.
The majority of NATO has.
And they just left it. And this is another thing that we're going to investigate.
What happened those last two months in Afghanistan?
We should learn, because that should never happen again.
But the Democrats would never look at it.
Why? Because you know who made those decisions?
President Biden made those, instead of listening to his generals.
Correct. And yet, if Trump oversaw a disaster like that, heads would roll.
What was scary about that one, I mean, I've done it sort of a lot in speaking, is just watching the generals.
We could not have seen it coming.
I'm like, dude, you've been in charge for 20 years.
You couldn't see that coming? How is that even possible?
But the part that nobody talks about, Putin has been in power for four different presidents.
For Bush, for Obama, for Trump, and for Biden.
And he's invaded another country in three of those four presidents.
The only time he did not invade another country, President Trump was then.
Why? Result. Yes!
I'd say balls, but...
They didn't want to challenge him.
North Korea stopped testing missiles, but they go right back after that.
So what's your favorite Trump story?
There's so many. Even I am still surprised at some of them.
You know what? The thing that people don't realize about him, and I want to tell you some personal stories.
There's great stories.
No one has a work ethic like him.
I'd be in there late into the night and he just keeps going.
And then he works the phone later.
The side people don't see about him, the times I would go with him to maybe there was a place that there was a fire or there was a shooting.
People don't see how kind he is.
I'll give you this example, too.
So I went to Mar-a-Lago during COVID and something happened, so nobody could be there.
And he's sitting on the couch, coming in.
He goes, Kevin, come in here. There's a young kid here.
And this is where this story gets to.
He's not 18 yet.
He has cancer. But they won't let him take the chemo that he needs.
He's got to wait these months. Yeah.
And your father's signing everything.
He's like, you know what? You come back on me and all that.
No one even knew.
And I had one of the 13 Gold Star families from Afghanistan.
They come to see me and they're upset.
They're in my office. I call your father.
He's no longer president. He's playing golf.
He's spending all the time with them, right?
And they're saying, you know, the government want to put somewhere where we're paying ourselves and we went to the Trump Hotel.
At the end, he goes, Kevin, wait, I want to talk to you.
He gets on the phone with me and this is what he says.
I'm going to go call the manager.
You tell them I'm picking up their tap.
He didn't want anybody to know.
He didn't put it on truth.
He didn't put a tweet. He told me privately, and he pays for it.
And that's the thing no one sees about him.
And we never would have got Right to Try if it wasn't for the president.
He would call me every night.
And what Right to Try does, if somebody is seriously sick, and you've got a drug out there that they want to test forever, but they want to try it, let them try it.
And what they've done is save lives by it.
And it seems so obvious.
Yes! It's common sense.
To not move that paperwork. Like, you're in your death's bed.
Like, give it a shot. Yeah.
I mean, it's interesting that you say that story because I hear so many of those from people.
And even as I've seen it, whether it's people that have worked with us forever or whatever he's done that's unique.
But actually, I thought it was perhaps his greatest maybe political weakness Was that he never wanted to show his empathetic side.
He's like, I'm dealing with China.
I'm dealing with Russia. I'm dealing with Iran.
I can't be soft.
I'm like, you don't have to be soft with them, but like show that side.
But he still had that old school sort of dramatic, like whatever it was.
Yeah, I don't know how he grew up.
He actually has so much more of that empathy that I think you needed for suburban women.
But he was like, nope, we're on a world stage.
We are literally, whether we're at war or just...
Much closer to it with someone else.
I'm never going to show weakness.
And I was actually like, man, I wish you would do this.
I wish people got to...
So we were flying up.
We're going to do... He's up for re-election.
We're flying up to New Hampshire.
He's going to do one of his rallies.
As we're going, he gets word that two Americans were killed and their bodies were coming back to Dover.
And so we go up to the rally.
He walks back to us. He goes, I'm cutting the rally short because I'm going to be there for that family.
And so he did the rally.
He cut it short. And most of the members stayed.
I flew with him. And when you go back to Dover, so I walk in and there are young Marines, very young mother or wife.
She she is in a place she doesn't believe her husband's dead.
And he he consults her.
He goes out to the field.
It is raining. You do not have an umbrella.
He sits there as a respect for these men who lost their lives.
Was he taking his watch? Not once.
And you know what though? He's consoling the family.
We go through all that.
We get back on the plane and he walks in.
And this is where he won't ever show.
I can see in his eyes and he said, those men should not have to die in vain.
Why do we have...
I mean, and this is the part that people don't see, and I wish they did.
I've literally tried, but again, you're...
You know, as a son, you see.
But I've watched him, too, the pride he has in his children.
And this is what I'll say, too.
Look, raising a family is not easy.
You know, you're a great father. But they don't see him as a father.
They don't see him as a grandfather. I see your kids walk up and...
It doesn't matter what they are. But you know what?
You think of your life, okay?
He was successful. He comes from a successful life.
I've watched all you kids as brothers and sisters love one another.
You're not into drugs.
You don't have problems. You don't have laptops.
You don't have these other things. According to the press, I'm really into drugs.
I've been around you guys privately.
It is a real family that has real love for one another.
And really, it stems of what he did as a father.
I appreciate that. Yeah, no, I want him to show some of that, but you know, again, you're not gonna...
Hey, there were times that probably also didn't want him tweeting, and people were like, have you ever thought about maybe asking him...
No, I never thought of that. I never thought of...
Everybody would always say that.
You're on CNN in 20 minutes.
Like, what are the talking points? It's like, I don't know, man.
You're on your own. Just go figure it out.
I would tell him this. I would say...
We'd be talking, oh, that'd be a good tweet.
I said, you know, my mom used to tell me in the summer, if you ate, you had to wait 30 minutes before you get in the pool.
Why don't we wait 30 minutes on this tweet?
Then he'd look at me and go, I wouldn't be sitting in this seat if I took you in the pool.
And there's truth to that. That's the other thing that people have got to understand.
You sometimes have to take, you know, that good with it.
The success comes from it.
He was a disruptor. And if he didn't disrupt, I mean, people will sit back and say, maybe something about his personality, but no one complains about his policies.
Yeah. And that's what people are like, America was winning under a lot of those policies.
I hope we can get that back. And again, I think, listen, the reality of the situation for you is like, I don't think we're going to be passing a lot of legislation, right?
We don't have the Senate, we don't have the White House, but we can get oversight.
We can get oversight. But look what we've been able to do by person.
We've been able to do the China Select Committee, speak with one voice, make us stronger.
But we also did the Strategic Petroleum Reserve that you can't sell it to China.
Well, apparently the Republicans are trying to jack up your gas prices because Joe Biden wanted to deplete it with no guarantee that they'll ever fill it up again.
How does this work? But you know what?
We've got enough Democrats to vote that we could override his veto.
He wants to veto this.
And that's a big one.
If we can do that, I mean, honestly, as sort of diehard as I am on one side, I wouldn't mind seeing some of that.
So maybe the last question, because it's about your predecessor, right?
Yes. I guess Josh Hawley yesterday introduced the Pelosi Act.
About trading in Congress.
Now, again, I'm fine with little guys if they have a stock portfolio or an IRA or something like that trading, but, you know, the DOJ is apparently investigating Google for something.
And, you know, a couple of weeks ago, Nancy Pelosi sold $3 million worth of Google.
Now, you know, a public servant for life that has $3 million just in Google alone What do you think about that?
Because I think the American people, and again, I don't think they care if you have an IRA, but it's when it's conveniently, they magically bought the exact company that sells the exact drug or sold right before a disaster.
Well, watch what Paul did when you had, he invested calls and puts, right?
That's different than buying a stock.
You think it's an option.
And he did it by a time period and it was all technology stock while they were negotiating whether bills were going to come to the floor.
Look, when you're Speaker of the House, you can determine what comes to the floor.
And that's where she was.
That's what Paul was doing. Other people can't do that.
So, look, I don't have a lot of money, but my investments are all in mutual funds, so you can't determine whatever else.
I think there is a problem.
You've got to build a trust in this institution.
And I'm really looking at this.
I want to do it on a bipartisan basis, but if anybody's in leadership, they shouldn't be able to be doing options or stocks.
You've got to report. Now, I get...
You got 435 members, they can't change an outcome, but if you're a chairman of a committee, you might be able to change it.
Well, I think you could also still shed light on those who are not willing to be honest about it or be public about it.
But you want, just as we want to trust our elections, we want to trust our elected officials too.
And you don't want to put ourselves in the place where we can influence anything like that and be purchasing that.
You could do that another time and another place.
What does success look like at the end of two years going into the next election?
We secure our border.
We start the movement, become energy independent.
We start the trajectory down from our spending to get us on a path to try to balance.
We hold government accountable.
We pass a parent's bill of rights.
And I think those are things that are very doable to make happen.
We just need the American public to join with us.
You know, I think they are with you.
I think, you know, we got to get through the noise and we got to show them what we're up against.
And that's not an easy thing, but we're off to a great start, man.
And anything I can do to help as well.
You've been a big help already.
Thank you, my friend. Take care.
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