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Sept. 9, 2024 - David Icke
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Street MD Vs David Icke - The Reveal
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Outro Yeah I'm at work, taking a little break and then I got a
patient after this.
So I'm just up in my Halloween costume.
David, please accept.
Hey!
Can you hear me?
I can hear you fine.
Can you hear me?
I can, yeah.
I've been sitting here in my John Lennon glasses watching someone doing that and trying to work out how to get to you because it wouldn't let us in.
Apparently.
I'm glad you're here and I know you have a hard stop in about 52 minutes.
All right, okay.
I'll speak quickly then.
Thank you so much for doing this.
I know you're a very busy man.
You got a tour coming up.
You got a new book.
We got tons of things to talk about.
So really appreciate you coming on.
Not a problem, mate.
Anything for you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
First and foremost, on behalf of myself and the people watching here, we got about 500 plus people watching.
We would like to express our deepest condolences for the passing of your daughter, Carrie, last December.
I didn't have a chance to speak to you since the passing.
Just a quick story on my behalf.
My grandparents passed several decades ago, within days from each other, and it was a very sad moment for our whole family.
My parents and my relatives were devastated, but I was the only one in my family that was at somewhat of peace, knowing that, hey, they're not suffering anymore, and hopefully they're in a better place.
And I don't know, I felt that watching your content during that time, I felt like you were sad, obviously, but you echoed somewhat that sentiment that I shared, which is there was a sense of peace for you, knowing that Carrie was at a better place.
Is that fair to say?
Yeah, well, you know, it depends on your perspective of reality, really.
I mean, I go into this in the new book, The Reveal, in considerable length in one part of the book about what is the afterlife, you know, and I think that So much of the conspiracy research arena has stopped moving, it's stopped expanding, and it's still stuck in Trump or Harris, when actually the scale of the human control is vastly greater than that.
I mean, immensely greater.
And not only Do you find, at that level of seeing it, how humanity is controlled far beyond Klaus Schwab and Bill Gates?
But you also see how we can free ourselves from it.
And so when you are faced with what is, for a parent, an enormity like Kerry's departure, It's hard to imagine for me what it must feel like if, A, you think that when the body dies, so do you, so does the loved one.
That's it.
And also worrying about how, quote, God will judge them.
Are they a sinner or not?
I find it hard to comprehend the scale of pain that must be for people.
I look at things differently.
I think, you know, you've kind of articulated that in that I see Kerry in her prime essence.
as consciousness, as a state of awareness, ultimately an infinite state of awareness.
And so I perceive her, as I perceive others here, as having a brief, it is so brief, human experience in this human body, to experience this tiny, tiny band of frequencies we call the human world.
And so I'm perceiving her as she is in her true essence, rather than just the brief experience she had In what was called my daughter.
She's much greater than just my daughter as we all are in terms of the human perception of what life is compared with the enormity of what we really are and are manipulated to forget.
When we're in a human body, so it made it easier for me.
And also she was, you know, she was in a not in a good way to say
the least in in the last weeks and you know I remember when my father died
a long time ago and he was in a terrible state.
He had multiple things malfunctioning and when he when he died,
well his body died.
He didn't.
His consciousness moved on.
I was pleased for him in the same way because.
I didn't want him to suffer in this body any longer.
And it's just a different way that you perceive who and what people are.
Like I say, I can't comprehend how horrific it must be if you think it's just all over when people go.
How's your health, by the way?
I have an Achilles injury from playing pickleball.
I don't know if you know about pickleball in the UK, but it's really big here in the United States.
It's like the third biggest sport in the country right now.
I hurt my leg, so I'm limping, and I come to realize this health thing is really, really important.
So, how's your health?
Well, good.
As far as I know, yeah, I'm really good.
I mean, I've just had a live blood test, as they call it.
I saw my blood up on a computer screen, blown up.
You went to see a doctor?
No, it wasn't a doctor.
It was someone who is in the alternative arena, shall we say.
And it was in a really, really good shape.
So, you know, for 72, I'm quite happy with that.
Well, I saw this post of yours where you're playing soccer with the kids, it looks like.
So, I love seeing this, David.
Please keep going out running and playing sports, having fun.
Well, the thing is that, you know, my football career ended in When I was, what, 21, just 21, with rheumatoid arthritis and, you know, I was led to believe I could be in a wheelchair in my 30s.
And I decided that wasn't going to happen.
And so, with what I'm supposed to have, I should have gone through a sequence of just it getting worse and worse and worse until you're unable to function.
And it did go like that for a while.
And then I decided, well, look, if you're saying the mind consciousness can override everything, and the body really should be subordinate to consciousness, not the other way around, then physician heal thyself.
And I went about it with my mind that I wasn't having it anymore.
And I'm now 72 and I'm OK.
I've got a few, you know, joints that are swollen a little bit here and there.
But in terms of affecting my life, it doesn't.
And I can still play football with the kids.
So this is one of the things, you know, that people become subordinate.
I write about this in The Reveal.
People become subordinate to the body.
So the body's the governor.
And you know the throttle goes both ways as they say that the way the body is impacted in terms of health can affect consciousness and you can feel helpless or you can impose your consciousness on the body and and The body follows what you want rather than you following what it does because one of the things I go into in them is In the reveal, in great detail, is the way that I say anyway, and I do produce evidence to support it, that the body has a program running through it.
And it's kind of a life program.
And it's basically like a non-player character in a video game.
The game is playing the body.
The body is responding to its program.
And if you don't override that with consciousness beyond the body, then what happens is you do become basically a non-player character.
The program is driving you and what you think are your thoughts and your reactions are actually the body program.
So, you know, if you go into a state of awareness where you just take a step back, you just withdraw a bit and then you reach a point where you can listen To all this chatter going on in your head.
It's like, you know, she says to me, and I said to her, and then I'll say to her, she says that, and all this stuff.
And you ask the question, well, if I'm observing this, what's observing it?
It's consciousness.
And what's playing through what you're observing is actually the program running through it.
And, you know, this is why, you know, the awakening is not just an awakening to how political manipulation works, although that's important.
It's actually an awakening to the true I and the true nature of the I.
Because once we do that.
You you are expanding your awareness beyond the body and
suddenly you are starting to see things you couldn't see before.
You're seeing the panorama of this world rather than the myopia through the five senses.
And the world looks incredibly different from that perspective.
You can see how people and organizations connect.
You can see why things happen because of the outcome that that leads to.
And sometimes Things happening seem to be, you know, positive things like, oh, you know, this person's allowing free speech or whatever.
But when you get to this panorama level, you see that actually that's not quite what's going on.
It's so important.
I saw a quote the other day which talked about the way that we have multiple awakenings.
You first awaken to the political level and manipulation of the World Economic Forum.
But if you stop there, you're still in the myopia.
You might be able to see more than the general population is seeing.
But you're still nowhere near seeing the totality of, not even the totality, I mean what's that in the end, but the massive nature of human control and where it's really coming from.
And so you go through another awakening and another awakening and another awakening and all the time you're expanding your awareness and at each point You're seeing the world in a far more expanded panoramic way, and you start to see that where the focus of attention is, even with the alternative media,
is a tiny fraction of what's actually happening because, as I go into in detail and produce the evidence too in the reveal, the real basic foundation of human control is to present us with a reality, a sense of reality, like we're in a physical world, that is actually nothing like what we're experiencing.
You know, I've been writing for a long time now, and more and more scientists, mainstream scientists, are starting to say, well, actually, it does look like this, that we live in a simulated reality akin to a virtual reality game.
And if you look at the explosion that's happening of technology with AI and computers and what have you, it's actually a technological mirroring of the very reality we're experiencing and how we experience it.
So, for instance, What I'm saying about this simulated reality, this incredibly advanced, quote, computer game, is that it's like a Wi-Fi field.
It's an information source.
And if you look at the way that computers decode the Wi-Fi, it's in theme and in a lot of the detail exactly how this reality we think we're experiencing is manifested.
So if you say to someone, what is the Internet?
They'll say, well, it's Videos and graphics and words on the screen.
Well, yes it is, but the only place the Internet exists in that form is on the screen.
Everywhere else it's a Wi-Fi field encoded with information and it's electronic circuits and so on.
And so what the computer is doing, it's taking information in a completely different form and it's decoding it into what we see on the screen.
And what we're doing, as humans, is we're doing something very much akin to that.
And, you know, as I've gone through this 35 years now of research and going deeper and deeper and deeper in the rabbit hole, You start to realize that mainstream science, although it hasn't put the dots together, has uncovered and discovered many elements of this, but the dots are not put together.
So, for instance, they say that what happens is we are decoding through the five senses frequency information.
That's the simulation Wi-Fi field they're talking about, actually.
And the five senses then take that frequency information they pick up.
I mean, the ears are a classic with sound waves.
They turn it into electrical information, they communicate it to the brain, and the brain then decodes it into what is a digital holographic reality that's actually going on in here.
We experience it as an external world, but it's going on in here.
So if you look at the computer, although we are looking at the screen, What we're looking at is inside the computer.
All the decoding of the Wi-Fi field is being done inside the computer, and that's the same with us.
And if you think that, or if you symbolize it, it's even more than symbolizing.
It's very close to the truth.
If you symbolize the body as a virtual reality headset, And the other senses too, you know, these more expanded games that they play now, you have the headset, you have the audio, you have the gloves for the touch senses, you have the chairs that move in accordance and in sync with the game.
So what they're doing, these computer games, is they're tapping into The five senses, they're tapping into and overriding the five senses.
So instead of decoding this world, suddenly we're decoding this world.
That becomes our reality.
And if you see, go on the Internet and you see these compilations of people and their reactions when they've got the headset on, Within seconds of putting it on, their reality is over, over, overridden, completely overridden.
You can see them like falling off their chairs and screaming and what have you.
Now, okay, you've got a headset and what you can do if it gets too bad is you can do that and you can go, phew, it was just a game.
But what if The body is a, what I've been calling it since the 1990s, a biological computer that's actually decoding this simulation field into what appears to be an external reality.
You come into this world with a headset on.
Everybody, your parents have got the headset on, you go to school, your mates and your teachers and your professors later have all got the headsets on, the people reading the news have got the headset on, you go out into the world from school and university and you're meeting people in the world of work that have all got the headset on, they're all being fed the same reality.
So of course, of course we We perceive the world and the reality we're in like that.
But if you can go beyond that, if you can expand your consciousness beyond that level, you can see that actually it's a massive trap.
In which our sense of reality is hijacked.
So we're actually experiencing a world that's nothing like the world we think we're experiencing.
Then that's the kind of level and beyond that as I go into in the reveal into the quote afterlife.
That's the level where you can start to see the scale of human control and it is light years from whether it's Harris or Trump.
David, I was going to go into the nature of reality and everything you just shared later on.
But you just went really deep in there.
So can we backtrack a little bit?
Yeah.
Because we still have to talk about politics.
And I've got a very important couple of other questions for you.
So you used to be a professional athlete.
You played for Hereford United.
Yeah.
I understand that you were the goalie.
Publicity, yeah.
Here's the thing.
I'm having a lot of disputes with other truthers here who say that all sports are rigged.
And I happen to know professional athletes, tennis players, pickleball players, some basketball players.
And there are some people, some truthers in our community who say that the outcome of the Super Bowl, the NBA, everything is rigged.
It's already planned.
Now, Now, I can see how, you know, in USA basketball, you know, LeBron James and the L.A.
Lakers, they're very popular.
They generate a lot of revenue.
I can see how the referees would want to favor the calls for LeBron James so that they can make it further into the playoffs for more viewerships.
So, in a rig, in that sense.
But you played professional sports before.
Are sports rigged?
Part one of the question.
And number two, what do you make of this whole Olympics thing?
What are the Olympics really about?
The Olympics are about the Olympic Games.
I mean, look at the opening ceremony of Paris.
But, you know, this is the thing.
People say, do you believe in the conspiracy theory of history or the cock-up theory?
As if they are mutually exclusive.
You've got to pick one or the other.
You know, many, many things that happen in the world are cock-ups.
They're mistakes or they're just the response to behaviour.
But that which is about driving the world in a particular direction more and more towards dystopia, well, they're not cock-ups.
They're coldly calculated, right?
And so that's kind of the way I would answer the question, because the vast overwhelming majority of sport is not rigged by the people that play it.
Some of it is.
It depends on the personalities involved.
I mean, we've had many experiences over the years and examples of sport being rigged for betting purposes.
And it's happened in football in this country.
It's happened in cricket.
So yes, some of it is rigged, but the vast majority of it is not.
Although, here's a point again.
You know, if you stay in the world of the five senses alone, then things look a certain way.
But I'm describing a simulated reality, what you might call the matrix.
So that which is controlling that matrix and is pushing the world in a certain We can override this stuff with consciousness, but if we are manipulated to perceive and experience only through the five senses, then that consciousness is not going to intervene because your focus of attention is in the world and of the world.
But from a manipulation of the matrix point of view, well, why can't it be decided that certain sporting events end with certain teams winning?
You know, it's a completely different level.
I mean, if you encode a computer game in a certain way, maybe it's a sports game or something, Then you can encode it so that the outcome is the one you've encoded it to be.
So, you know, this is why it's so important that people open their minds to a much, much greater level of possibility.
It is a bizarre question, but I just got to ask you, are you familiar with who Taylor Swift is?
Taylor Swift!
Yes!
From a distance, right?
So check this out.
I was in Amsterdam a couple months back with my family to watch Taylor Swift in concert.
My daughter's a big fan.
I happen to appreciate her music too.
And it was 65,000 people in a stadium and it was the most incredible, you know, live venue I've ever been to.
So what did you think about the ERES tour concerts in Amsterdam?
Thank you, Amsterdam! We love you so very much!
It was amazing!
11.
Enchanted, Earless, and All Too Well.
11? What are your top three favorites?
Enchanted, Earless, and All Too Well.
I would say All Too Well.
Lavender Haze.
🎵I'm real, and I'm in the east, keep it up for me🎵 🎵So real, I'm the end of the tune, give a damn what
people say🎵 And Karma
🎵Karma is a guy, Karma's a machine🎵 🎵In the city, I'm the one that's gonna be the one that's
gonna be the one🎵 🎵Karma is a drama, Karma is the reason, I am not the
reason🎵 Yeah, she put on one hell of a show
Now, once I announced that, a bunch of people, you know, who follow my account are like, dude, you know, she's a Satan worshipper.
She sold herself to the devil.
There's no way she could get to become Taylor Swift without signing a deal with the devil.
Now, I can see how someone like Taylor Swift, she must obey and go by, go along with the agenda, such as like, hey, everyone, be mindful of climate change.
Make sure you go out in boats.
Make sure we're pro-LGBTQIA plus rights.
You know, there's certain things that she kind of have to push.
But for an artist or a celebrity to get to that level of fame, do they have to necessarily per se sell their soul to the devil or to a Tico energy?
Well, as some do, and a lot do, but others can be controlled by that energy, by the very nature of what you're talking about.
This is what you say, this is what you don't say, if you're going to get the promotion that we can give you.
I remember speaking to a music company executive ages ago, I mean decades ago, Who was describing how the music industry dictates what the genre is going to be.
So they would promote the flower power of the 60s, which I used to love that music.
And then they would promote the punk reaction to the flower power era.
They would then promote the glam rock era and so on and so forth.
And there were others that operate kind of outside of that.
They're just so bloody good.
They get such a following naturally by people that just follow their music.
But even then, you know, if you're way out from the agenda force, if you like, then they'll undermine you as best they can.
But no, it's the industry.
And that which is behind the industry is dictating where music goes.
And it's ever so simple to do, you know.
You know, I know, you know, we've all seen immensely talented people musically that get bloody nowhere.
And so they'll pick up certain people and they'll promote the hell out of them.
Again, it's the same principle.
And they become the big superstar when there's someone else that is just as talented, maybe
more so, who never gets promoted and never gets heard of.
So by that very choice of who they promote and who they don't, they're dictating who
becomes the star and what genre becomes the star that people then think has kind of come
out of nowhere.
And you know, if you're going to be promoted...
You're going to go down that road.
Well, these are things you're going to have to do and conform to if you're going to get that promotion.
Oh, I buy that.
And that's one level at which people kind of do sell their soul in the sense that they sell their opinions in the sense of, I'm going to have this opinion and this opinion because these people promoting me want me to have that opinion rather than having my own opinion.
Of course, but the question is, is Satan involved in this?
Is the devil involved in this, where they literally have to sell their soul to Lucifer here?
Well, some of them absolutely do, and some of them are very happy to do that.
And it's the same in politics, it's the same in corporations.
Furthermore, I came across my daughter checking out some really disturbing Doja Cat video, where she's not even attempting to hide her pledge of allegiance to the demonic realm.
And more and more all around us, we're seeing The Weeknd, Kid Laroi, Travis Scott, Lil Nas X. You name the artists, they just love to showcase how much they dig demons.
And this trickle-down effect is unfortunately having an influence on our kids, as I'm seeing tons of videos of our youth thinking this demonic shit is cool.
Now the solution, my friends, is not to micromanage every little move that your kid makes.
They're gonna hate you for that, and you don't have the time.
What I do recommend is to have an honest sit-down with our kids and discuss the obvious, what they're not even hiding from us right now.
It's time we fight back.
There are common themes.
which span religions, non-religions, native cultures, the world over.
Because what I'm doing when I'm researching is I'm looking for patterns of agreement.
Yeah, you see the patterns of disagreement, but I'm looking for patterns of agreement, ancient and modern.
And one of them very clearly is that there is a non-human force operating in the hidden, that is manipulating human society. And the Christians will
call it the devil or Satan and its support team the demons. Islam will call it shaitan
or iblis and the jinn. The Gnostics will call it Yalda Beoth or the Demiurge and the
Archons and so on. You find this all over the world, this common, common theme. And then you
start to ask the question, and I did in the 1990s, as I started to uncover that these rich
and famous people that are on the news and basically have power centers in the world,
they were doing satanic rituals to their, quote, gods.
And of course, you go, what?
And then you look back and you see that the ancients were doing openly satanic sacrifice rituals to the gods that these rich and famous people are doing now, these cultists.
And then you realize that actually the gods that they were and are worshipping and doing these rituals to are actually the same gods.
You know, all over the world in different cultures, they call them different names, but it's the same gods and they operate gods.
in their perception, just outside of human sight, in a dimension known as the astral.
And these rituals are a way of interacting with these gods.
So, ultimately, it's this level that is manipulating human society.
The consciousness behind it, because everything is consciousness, is an inverted schismatic consciousness that the different religions and cultures
call different names like the devil or Satan or whatever. And so that's what people are
selling their soul to. Because this force can say, we will give you this if you serve us.
Yes.
And these are politicians.
These are corporate people.
These are all these people that are fundamental.
These are the Klaus Schwab's and all that, that are fundamental in the in the human level of manipulation, but their gods, their masters are actually outside of this dimension.
Speaking of politicians, So if we could talk about Trump and RFK for a moment here.
I've never in my 48 years of existence witnessed a presidential candidate having been impeached twice, you know, wiretapped, home-raided, banned on social media, now back.
A bunch of legal cases and fines.
I actually know someone, one of my business mentors who works with Trump, who's saying like this legal situation is a hot mess, like he's helping deal with all this stuff.
I don't think he's lying to me.
And there are some people who believe that, like, yeah, of course, all these presidential candidates, they're all compromised.
But some people believe that Donald Trump is less compromised than someone like Biden or Harris, per se.
Is it possible?
Now with RFK joining forces with him, you know, especially saying all the right things about, one, to correct the corruption of the FDA and the NIH and the CDC.
Is it possible that with so much attack on these guys, that maybe they might be on to something good?
Or do you see this as a complete psyop here?
There's been discussion that if you were to join the Trump administration in some health-related position, that you have real interest in dismantling things like the FDA, the CDC, NIH.
You would like to see a focus away from infectious diseases to what you're talking about, more chronic diseases.
Is it fair to say that you would try to dismantle some of those organizations?
No, I wouldn't dismantle them.
I would change the focus and I would end the corruption.
Right now, 75% of FDA's budget is coming from pharmaceutical companies.
That is a perverse incentive.
Scientists and officials in NIH who work on drug development get to collect lifetime royalties from those products.
These are regulators.
They're supposed to be looking for problems with those products.
We have these agencies that have become sock puppets for the industries they're supposed to regulate.
Oh, they're not really interested in public health.
The most profitable thing today in America is a sick child.
Everybody is making money.
The hospitals are making money.
The pharmaceutical companies are making money.
Even the insurance companies make money.
And we need to end those perverse incentives.
We need to get the corruption out of FDA, out of NIH, out of the CDC, and make them function as they're supposed to function, which is to protect public health and particularly children's health.
I talked specifically to President Trump about that issue, and he said that he wanted to leave, as his legacy, healthy children.
Even the assassination attempt, a lot of people are saying that it's staged, this is all PSYOP, he put blood on his own ear, it was all staged with the pig.
I mean, there are many questions that need to be asked about lots of things.
But the point is that what tells you about the journey is the outcome.
And there's an agenda that is playing out pretty much unresisted through the left, through the woke agenda.
And that is pretty straightforward.
But there's a vast number of people, not just in America, but around the world, especially those who are awakening to some levels of this, Who don't want this control agenda?
And so ultimately, where is this agenda supposed to lead?
And not too far in the future either.
It's meant to lead to, as I've been saying for decades, to the connection of artificial intelligence to the human brain.
So artificial intelligence becomes the human mind and our thoughts and emotional reactions are delivered to us rather than being formed by the quote individual.
So, you've got a great number of people.
In America, I don't know, 70 odd million people voted for Trump the last time and the time before.
And they don't want this stuff.
They are resisting it.
So here's the scenario that you give the hard sell to AI control and all these other levels of control, but AI is the absolute vehicle medium for it happening.
And that comes from your Klaus Schwab, who is pushing that, you know, we will be connected to artificial intelligence and will become hybrids to artificial intelligence, and that would be a great thing.
You're seeing Gates pushing the same agenda and all these things.
Ray Kurzweil at Google.
who's saying that by 2030, the human brain will be connected to artificial intelligence, and once that connection is made, you will have more and more AI doing human thinking, until human thinking as we know it now is basically negligible.
That's the hard sell.
But you need the soft sell to get to the same outcome in terms of all these people that don't want it.
You have to manipulate them into accepting that.
And so I've been following Elon Musk and tracking Elon Musk for years and years and years.
You take a model man and put him in control
watch him become a god Because his companies like SpaceX and Neuralink and to an extent the Tesla are selling an agenda of AI control.
The connection of AI to the human brain is meant to be via the cloud.
So the cloud, this field of radiation, 5G, 6G, 7G to come, is absolutely central to connecting the human brain to AI.
But how does the cloud get created?
Well, okay, you've got 5G towers, etc., but only in a certain area.
But if you're going to connect the entire human race to the cloud, i.e.
AI, then you have to hit every inch of the planet.
And how do you do that with towers?
You don't.
You do it with low-orbit satellites.
The leader in putting up these low-orbit satellites, every week now he's got permission from the FCC, the Federal Communications Commission, to put tens of thousands of them up there.
...is Elon Musk and SpaceX.
So he's making it possible for this AI connection while saying that AI could be the end of humanity.
You think that's real?
It is conceivable that AI could take control and reach a point where you couldn't turn it off and it would be making decisions for people?
Yeah.
Absolutely.
Absolutely?
No, that's definitely where things are headed.
If you want to run drugs, the best way of doing it without being caught is through an anti-drugs agency.
Because they think, no, no, no, they can't be running drugs, they're an anti-drug agency.
But that's a very good reason why they would do it then.
And the idea is that you put nanotechnology in the body which is the receiver of the information coming through this cloud, the frequencies coming through this cloud.
And that nanotechnology is being put in there from many and various sources.
But crucially, it's being put in there through the COVID jabs and those other jabs that are being moved to the COVID technique.
So if you see these really blown up microscope images of people who've had the jab, and some that haven't, but particularly those that have, you see these nanotechnology self-replicating systems forming in the body, and they seem to have some form of intelligence.
And among the content is something called graphene oxide.
And graphene oxide is the superconductor of electricity and the brain processes information through electrical means.
It communicates with the cells and the rest of the body electrically and vice versa.
And if you can intervene in that process, you can change the way the body, the brain, processes information.
The other thing about graphene oxide is that it is an amplifier of electromagnetism in the body.
So if you've got graphene oxide in the body, through these vaccines and fake vaccines, actually, and other means that they're putting this stuff into us, then if you come into contact with an electromagnetic field, its impact upon you is going to be amplified by that graphene oxide.
And we're talking about a technologically generated electromagnetic field covering the entire planet eventually, which they're calling the cloud.
And this is the hive mind?
Yes.
That I've been warning about for decades.
I think it's really interesting that David Icke complains of being connected to the hive mind.
What the hell are you communicating on right now?
Who are you communicating with?
All the people, their perceptions shared through a medium of speech.
Like there is structurally no difference between having a bunch of nanobots running through your bloodstream accomplishing the same thing when you're holding a device that is connected to this thing that is a field of information that is the internet.
Integrating stuff like this into our By the way, I think this is Elon Musk.
Is this Elon Musk?
What else would you like to say, sir?
Humans have this existential paradox built into them.
We initially want to surpass anything that surpasses us, or eliminate it if we can't.
This is why we're afraid of anything that's different.
For instance, technology.
If AI, for instance, gets connected to us, I don't think it's going to be the end of us.
It's going to help us evolve faster and better.
You can't beat this thing.
It's better than us.
It is much better than us.
It is not just better than us.
It is all of us put together in one thing simplified without the biological constraints that every other human brain has.
It is actually quite a beautiful technology, but it is also risky.
And I think the risk factor is something that should be spoken of, but in a realistic sense, to the point that we don't stop Can we just get this right?
Is this Elon Musk or not?
Absolutely not.
Nope.
Absolutely not.
Let's just say it's Elon Musk.
Got any questions for him?
People need to understand what is happening and what they're part of.
And then maybe they can make some choices about how they respond to it.
But if you're living in a reality which is not the reality you think you're experiencing, and some other force is manipulating that reality to manipulate your perception to manipulate you, Then that needs exposing.
And it's alright talking about AI this, AI that.
But AI is designed to take over the human mind, and therefore replace it.
People like Ray Kurzweil at Google, a so-called futurist, has openly talked about this years ago, that by 2030 this will be happening.
And that eventually, once the connection is made, That AI will do more and more of human thinking until human thinking as we know it is basically negligible.
And that's the end of humans as we... And I think what Adrian said, what about augmentation, theoretically, that lets us actually see beyond the limitations we're in?
Well, if you have a chip in your brain, and it's feeding you a sense of reality, it's meant to go to the point where you get your perceptions delivered.
And what are your perceptions?
They are your sense of reality.
And this is a very dark and dangerous road.
And I don't care if it's a hard sell or it's a soft sell.
It's a dangerous road.
It's not a world I want to live in.
Well, I think Elon Musk has said, beware those that worship AI gods.
But Adrian, you seem to have some opinions on this.
I mean, you don't know Elon Musk, obviously, but from researching him, what do you think his views are, what he wants?
Well, it's clear that he wants to augment us with AI and various other tech to basically enhance our experience of the world and to also make us more capable of maneuvering through the world.
That seems to be his thing.
But if I go to David Icke's point, I think it's not that you're afraid of that.
Our perceptions themselves are going to be delivered by a piece of tech, but that somehow what is being given to you is false or steers you in a particular direction that benefits the centralized entity that is manipulating your perceptions and the data that's delivered to you that is then therefore your perception, right?
I think it does come down to where the feed comes from.
David, you see what he's saying?
Exactly that.
And, well, you know, I've augmented reality.
You can sit that in a dark place anyway, from my point of view.
But if I'm being delivered a sense of perception that gets me to stand up and walk out this room now, when I wouldn't do that if I was sitting here.
That is not augmented reality, that is a takeover of reality.
And what are we talking about, Alex?
What are we talking about in terms of this global cult, and what I say is non-human entities working through it, and the World Economic Forum and all these people?
They're seeking to dictate our sense of reality.
Now, does anyone think Elon Musk, or whatever he bloody calls himself with that name, Does he believe that those that are creating this AI system of control... No, no, I get where you're going.
So let's go back to Adrian, who can't speak for Elon Musk and speak for Adrian.
What is your response to that?
Keep in mind, these are the same types of people who read a few AI research papers and think that they are now AI researchers, even though they just repeat what they have received in verbatim, which ironically makes them more of an AI than the AIs that they're building.
But I would say this is the logic that I see.
I just think there's fear.
It's just that, fear.
If there's malicious intent behind that, that still remains to be seen.
Maybe there is, maybe there isn't.
But if you look at the prime motivator for all of this, it is fear.
What am I exposing?
What have I been exposing all these years?
It's an agenda to ultimately replace the human mind with artificial intelligence, so artificial intelligence becomes the human mind.
I've been writing about it for decades.
And step by step by step, we move closer and closer to that all the time.
That is not an accident.
It's the World Economic Forum agenda, it's the Gates agenda, it's the Global Cult agenda to do that.
What I'm saying is that this is meant to go to a whole new stage in which no longer is it necessary to manipulate information to manipulate perception.
Because your perceptions will come direct.
I think if you really want to talk about, say, controlling people's perception and information warfare, probably we are more afraid of this thing than we actually should be.
I want you to consider this for a second.
Imagine we become a spacefaring race in which eventually we pursue to leave the solar system because the sun will die in a couple billion years.
The problem is you have to leave the solar system, but how the hell are you going to do that if you look at humans right now?
We're very inefficient.
look at what it would take to go to Mars.
You have to shield us from everything that's out there.
You have to look at how many supplies we have.
You have to somehow figure out how to pass the time or put us in suspended animation,
something we've also not figured out how to do because it's probably impossible.
So if you can't solve that, then the always next step would be to take what is human
and implant that into a machine.
At first, we're gonna have, say, a machine implanted into us,
but I think at one point, our brain will be implanted into a machine
once we reach, say, a certain age as an individual being.
What I'm saying is that we can augment ourselves as machinery or augment ourselves into machinery to such an extent that we can prolong our biological existence as long as possible up until the point where eventually we'd have to consider making copies of ourselves.
So you're talking about life extension technology?
I heard your debate with Elon Musk, alias Adrian Dittman or something like that.
But that was Elon Musk.
And I know he's your friend, but I thought Alex Jones did a piss poor job in managing that interview.
He didn't allow you to complete your thoughts.
And he gave Elon Musk, I would say, about 80% of the airtime and cut you off way too many times.
So that's just that.
But hey, I promised your assistant that we would cut off in five minutes.
But I got to ask you this real quick, David.
There seems to be a lot of dispute and internal battle within the Truther community.
There are people who think that they know everything.
You know, there are plenty of people who would message me and say, why are you not talking about the flat Earth situation?
Like, as if they know with absolute certainty that the Earth is flat.
First of all, that's not my fights.
Secondly, you know, this whole thing with Trump.
There are a lot of people who would say, hey, Trump might be on to something good.
Most people would say, this guy is a complete psy-op.
He's a controlled opposition.
There are other people who would, we all stand against the mandates and the masks and the vaccines.
But some people believe that there may be some truth to this virus situation.
Most other people would say they never isolated the virus.
There seems to be a lot of internal battle within our community and since you're somewhat of the OG of the Truth or Movement, I'm nicknaming you the Godfather here.
Is there something that you could say to the people?
We have about 800 plus people watching.
If you could say something to try to instill some peace amongst us, because we are not the enemy.
We need to stay together and call out these motherfuckers, but we're fighting amongst each other.
So is there something you could say to the people watching this to chill out and keep the peace?
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
It's simple.
You know, everyone's trying to work out what's going on.
And therefore, it's right that different people come to different conclusions and present what they believe is the situation and produce the evidence, we hope, to support it.
That's not a problem.
The problem, you know, with humanity in general, going way back, It's not that people have different belief systems, it's that they seek to impose them on other people.
And what you are seeing with this, I say, hijacked alternative media, is that it's focused attention on this myopic level of the conspiracy, And excluded others, because if you go outside of this hijacked, highly promoted center, you meet loads of people in this alternative media that I have enormous respect for, that may not go as far as I do in terms of all the reality stuff, but are open to other explanations for things rather than being closed to them.
So it's about having the free flow of information.
And not having it focused only in one area.
And like I say, if you want that to happen, because you don't want the genie to really come out of the bottle, then all you have to do is promote the hell out of those that have that mentality.
There's one or two in there I'm sure that know what they're doing, but most of them are just of that mentality.
And we need to chill out in terms of letting different people have different opinions and presenting their evidence.
I mean, when does the mainstream of the alternative media really ever talk in any detail and focus about the nature of reality?
How the heck, ladies and gentlemen, can we understand what's going on in the world if we don't even understand what the world is?
You know?
And when I see, like, Tucker Carlson, he comes out in one interview and says that he's talked to people, contacts on the inside, and they've told him that there's basically a non-human element to this.
And then he says immediately afterwards, but I know as much as I need to know.
I don't need to know anymore.
I don't want to go there, basically.
Are there things that you're scared to cover?
You're sitting there saying, wow, this is like soul crushing.
Yes, there are two.
One is the 2020 election.
The second thing that bothers me is the UFO story.
The more you dig into that and talk to people with actual knowledge of it, there are parts of that story that I do not understand at all that are really, really, really dark.
There's a spiritual component there that I don't fully understand.
So yes, that story bothers me.
And I think last thing I'll say that one of the reasons that we've had all these
disclosures and all of these, what, 10 whistleblowers at this point, and it
hasn't really become front page is part of it suppression, you know, parts of the
government don't want you to know about it, but part of it is the public can't
deal with it.
It's too far out.
The implications are too profound.
And I understand that because I've heard things where I'm just like, oh man, I
don't even really want to know that.
deeply disturbing stuff.
You know, forget, like, saucers and technology.
It's deeply, deeply disturbing stuff.
Stuff that I haven't even told Natalie.
The justification one often hears is, well, the government haven't wanted to disclose this because it would scare people.
And I'm always like, that's bullshit.
You know, you're hiding a crime.
Which they are, by the way, in my opinion.
But I do think there's a sense in which that's not totally crazy.
So I kind of get that.
I hate to admit it.
I'm not arguing for hiding things.
I believe in the truth and I believe in disclosure, but I understand the impulse.
Like, holy smokes, this is heavy.
You know what I mean?
Right.
And the government's involvement in it makes it even heavier because then you realize the complicity of it.
Exactly.
What are you talking about?
You know, tell us what you've been told.
Tell us what there is to know.
Go seeking more knowledge about what's going on.
And this is a classic example of how we've created an alternative media center core that is what I call the barricade brigade, where it's here and no further.
And although now don't worry about yeah, they told me there was a non-human force behind all this, but I don't don't go there I don't want to go there.
Okay, let's focus on Trump and Iris and all this it's You know, it's bewildering to me that people that want to know quote truth are not Pursuing it whatever that truth turns out to be because we need to know otherwise, we're going to go on being controlled because you know people say Oh, Trump's the saviour!
Okay, so what happens four years from now then?
What happens then?
This focus on Trump's the saviour, I have to say it, this America-focused alternative media, It's basically that focus of attention in the alternative media has basically become right-wing politics.
You know, there was a time in the run-up to COVID and sometimes immediately afterwards, before the mainstreamers came in, where people were grasping that we live in one-party states.
But you know, one party may go to the outcome slower because it has to keep its natural base on board.
That's what I'm talking about with the Trump supporters and their soft sell.
And others may go fast because they don't have the same pushback from their natural base, but they're all going in the same direction.
It's a one party state.
And what's happened, especially since COVID and this hijack, is there's been a regression back into the puppet show.
The Left Right Puppet Show.
And it's instead of expanding into greater and greater points of awakening to see the greater, greater picture, it's actually regressed back into the puppet show.
And it's regressed because it's been made to regress, because that suits the agenda of this global cult.
Keep them focused on the myopic and then they won't see what's really going on.
David, I have a patient to see.
You have another interview.
You're probably a couple minutes late for it.
But hey, congratulations on your new book, The Reveal.
I understand that this is a trilogy from The Trap and The Dream.
So this is The Reveal now.
You already talked about the book.
I know you gotta go, but everyone's asking, what's the best place to purchase the book?
We have 800 people watching.
Hopefully we get at least 800 sales.
I can't believe, wait, hold on, time out.
I can't believe that the book is $20?
You understand that inflation's in place, right?
Yeah.
You could probably buy like one and a half cup of coffee right now with 20 bucks.
Yeah, well, what you're trying to do, what you're trying to do is make it available to as many people as you can.
I mean, that's the idea.
That's the point of what I do.
But you could've charged 25 bucks, I'm just saying.
People would be happy to pay that.
Yeah.
$20, I think you're low-balling yourself.
I know it's not about making money, you want to get the information out there, but 15 euros, 20 bucks?
So everyone watching this, we gotta go support the man, the legend, the godfather here.
What is the best place for us to go?
You can go to davideye.com.
You get the book there and it's shipped immediately.
It's also shipped within North America to people in Canada and America, etc.
Therefore, they'll get that very quickly as well.
And it's also an e-book.
And it's also an audio book.
What I've done with The Trap, The Dream and this one is I recorded myself reading the book.
So it's an audio book as well, and that's like the e-book, it's downloadable like now.
I mean, you know, not even any post involved.
But yeah, DavidLight.com is the place to get the paper book.
Although again, it's available in other places, as you say.
Everyone's going to take a cut off of everything you make.
You know, like, again, you got to eat.
You got to pay your bills.
So davideye.com is the best place to go, right?
Yeah.
OK, awesome.
Hey, everyone, thank you so much for hanging out with me and David today.
David, thank you so much, man.
I really appreciate it.
No problem, mate.
Let's do it again, OK?
Nice to talk to you.
Thank you.
My pleasure.
And stay healthy.
Yeah, that's what I planned.
Much love, my friend.
See you, mate.
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