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June 6, 2024 - David Icke
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Knowing 'Out There' Is To Understand 'Down Here' - David Icke Dot-Connector Videocast
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Hello, everybody, and welcome to Dot Connector on Iconic.
It's great to be with you, as always.
Dad, how you doing?
Good.
Excellent.
Short and sweet.
We've had a busy week.
We've done a series earlier this week on the art of researching, which is something that we've discussed in this show and you've spoken about.
It's kind of dying out, that discerning what is true, what is not, in the age of information is everywhere and everyone's got an opinion.
And that kind of takes us into our first story this week which is an interview that Tucker Carlson's done where he's acknowledged and talked about some of the more far-out areas such as ETs and so on but then said a crazy line which is that I'm not really interested in learning anymore and I don't want to go there despite the fact that if you don't go there you're just going to be arguing in the symptoms which is what a lot of the alternative media is doing.
So what do you make of this?
Well this highlights Something that I've been seeking to get across now for a year or more.
And that is that the alternative media and that section of it that gets all the promotion and all the numbers is nowhere near the level of the rabbit hole Necessary to see what's actually going on.
And that's why you see right wing politicians like builders in The Netherlands and Mille in Argentina, kind of seen as alternative heroes when they're absolutely part of the whole cult scam and agenda.
And we've seen that, of course, in the Netherlands with Vilders overseeing the The making Prime Minister, unelected Prime Minister, a guy who has a history in intelligence, indeed led the intelligence service, and has been involved in so many cover-ups and was very much involved in the whole COVID hoax.
So this is very concerning to me.
Because if you're not informed enough to be able to see the totality or at least the greater, greater panorama of what's happening and what it's operating within, then you're going to constantly pick the wrong heroes and you're going to mislead people.
So when I saw this clip with Tucker Carlson, he's being interviewed, and he has talked about this here and there in the last few weeks, that he's concluded that there are non-human entities Manipulating human society from either being incarnate as an apparent human or from the quote spiritual realm as he puts it and you know that's that's all good it would be nice actually if any of them any of them that speak about this in a mild way
acknowledge the guy who's been saying this since 1996 and taken untold shit and abuse and ridicule for saying it, and now suddenly it's okay to say it, they think, but they don't acknowledge the guy who's been pushing this year after year since the 1990s.
But the thing that struck me most about the interview is that Carlson is saying, um, I kind of got what's going on and I don't want to know anymore.
Well, excuse me, you're a bloody journalist.
You're supposed to be now an alternative journalist.
Of course you want to know.
Yeah.
And so here's the first, uh, the first clip we'll see in which he's, um, he's basically saying this.
Here's what I'm really surprised by, and I've actually stopped gathering string on, as we say in reporting, stop gathering string on this, gathering information because I'm satisfied that I know enough and I don't really want to know that much more.
Because what I think I know is, you know, this doesn't help me at all to know that.
So that's the conclusion I've reached.
I'm usually pretty curious.
I've stopped being curious about this because I don't want to know anymore.
But... You truly don't want to know anymore about it?
Nope.
I think I know.
I think I know what's up.
So I can't prove it, so I'm probably not going to articulate it, but I think I know what's up, yeah.
But... Can you articulate it?
Well, I think it's... I think it's a... You know, I think it's a really old story.
You know, I think it's a really old story, so that's what I think.
What is it?
Well, one, you know, I'm a Christian, and I am fairly sincere about it.
I try to be sincere about it.
More sincere than ever, for sure.
But one thing that you notice about all, every world religion I'm familiar with, I'm interested in that topic, there are commonalities between religions.
You know, Jesus is unique, and I believe in Jesus, so I'm not...
I don't believe in any kind of pantheology, okay?
I don't think they're all equal or anything like that.
I think mine is correct.
I think that.
Sorry.
Well, that takes us back to a conversation I think we had a few months ago when you were talking, I think we were having dinner with somebody, I can't remember who else was there, and you were saying, I don't care about anything.
I want to know what's going on.
I just want to know what's going on.
And surely, if you're a journalist, you think you could have an inquisitive mind, and they'd all have that attitude, I just want to know what's going on.
Especially given, officially, he's had all the constraints of Fox and all that mainstream, you know, policy removed from him now.
He should be able to go exactly where he wants to go.
And he's limiting himself.
He's not got a producer or an exec doing it.
He's doing it himself.
I find it staggering.
Well, I don't see how an alternative mind that Tucker Carlson is claimed to have would not want to know more and more and more detail about what is this non-human force that is manipulating human society?
And what's the first thing, if you were a proper journalist, and you came across this information, What's the first thing you do?
You'd look at who's been saying this.
In my case, since the 1990s.
And you'd say, hey, you come on my show with its massive audience.
Tell us what you found.
What's your view of what's going on?
That's what you do.
But it doesn't happen.
As it doesn't happen with Rogan either.
And there has to be a reason for that, to be honest.
And one of the things that I've been pointing out over the decades is How if you look at religions and if you look at ancient cultures and tribal legends and accounts, there is an absolute common theme between them.
And that is that a non-human force operating from the hidden is manipulating human society.
And it's a very compelling Coordinated agreement between what is otherwise a disparate group of different groups and beliefs.
And so Carlson, in this interview, is acknowledging that.
There are commonalities that are very striking between all world religions I'm aware of and all creation myths.
And one of them, and this is of course true for Christianity, very true, is that the belief that supernatural beings take physical form.
They all believe that.
The Greek myths.
Jesus, most famously.
But that they take physical form.
That they're not just like some ethereal, they're not just shadows floating around.
Specters.
Fog.
That they're physical.
Like, they're as real as the arm of your chair.
And that they reproduce with people.
Again, Christianity believes that.
Jesus.
Immaculate conception.
Spirit.
Reproduces with human woman.
That's what the story is.
It is described in Genesis as well, in Genesis 6.
Again, it's not just the religion of the ancient Hebrews or the religion of the modern Christians.
It's Hinduism as well, and the animist religions.
The religions, to the extent we understand them or know about them, of the American Indians, all the same.
So if every culture in the world that we know about who's left any kind of written or physical record is reaching the same conclusions about something, maybe there's something there.
Hmm?
And maybe it's not so crazy to think that what everyone else has always thought since the beginning of time, which that there is this combination in cases of, you know, human beings and the spiritual realm, whatever that is.
I can speak about it with no precision at all because I don't understand the specifics of it, but I know that it has been written about since people have been writing.
So what he's acknowledging there is in text that's been written for centuries, you know, as you mentioned there, going back to all the different religions that have come out of the Middle East and so on, and obviously you've written about it extensively in modern times with people like the royal family and other leaders or apparent leaders and positions of influence.
So, kind of it's nothing new, is it?
It's acknowledging something that's always been there.
It's basically bringing it into modern times.
I find it strange that him saying that is considered so dangerous to say, when every religion, as you said, would acknowledge there is evidence and information in there.
Yeah, well, what's happening, and of course what's happened over the last 35 years, is you say something and people abuse you and ridicule you, and then eventually more and more people start to see how valid it is.
And this is what's happening now with Carlson, which is why it's very, shall we say, disappointing that he can't acknowledge someone who's been doing it and saying this all this time.
But he says in that interview that the non-human force comes into incarnation Which he acknowledges that Christianity believes in the sons of God who interbred with the daughters of men and all that stuff in the Old Testament.
And then says they're as solid as this chair or this table or whatever he mentioned.
And this is why to understand the scale of the conspiracy, we have to understand the nature of reality.
It's no good just seeing this world as physical and solid.
It's not.
That's a massive part of the perceptual illusion that we are experiencing.
When you realize, actually, that if you take what we call matter, As a proportion of what we call the universe, it's absolutely infinitesimal!
The vast majority of the universe, overwhelming majority, is not matter.
In fact, 99%, some say as high as 99.9% of the visible universe is something called plasma.
And when you start to realize how these different dimensions So people say, you know, why can't we see these entities?
a dimension that's in frequency terms close to this one on the dial beyond our ability
to see it, because we can see almost nothing except this tiny frequency we call visible
light. Everything else our sight senses can't see. So people say, you know, why can't we
see these entities? Well, because you can hardly see anything. And so you have this
focus on matter, which is basically all that the five senses can perceive.
And at the same time, You are interpenetrated.
This reality is interpenetrated with these other dimensions.
And like I say, where they're very close on the dial, they can interact.
And these other dimensions, although we can't see them, like this one called the astral or the fourth dimension is another way it's described.
It's so close to this human reality on the dial that interaction can take place.
Possession can take place.
Where these entities can connect themselves into the electromagnetic field of humans and take over their thought, perception, and behavior processes.
All these things are going on.
And to say that, okay, I've kind of been told that this is happening, I've talked to some people
who should know and they tell me this is happening, but I don't wanna know anymore, that's ridiculous.
One of the key reasons it's ridiculous is the answers to what we do about all this is in that knowledge.
So what he's basically saying is this is a spiritual war going on and I'm just gonna continue in this realm
of matter and I don't wanna know anymore about it.
Bye.
Well, Tucker, what is happening in this world?
What you do, this human world, What you do on your show in terms of exposing mildly, I have to say, parts of what is happening, part of the conspiracy.
You cannot understand that level of it, the way it plays out, without grasping
the nature and the panorama of reality and the different sources and forces of manipulation
that are going on.
And to have a situation where you say, yeah, there's a spiritual war,
but I don't wanna know anymore about it.
I mean, that's breathtaking.
But what it is, is confirmation of what I've been saying over the last year or so.
Which is that the mainstream of the alternative media has been hijacked and taken over by those who don't know enough to understand what's actually going on.
And for someone to say, well, I'm starting to understand a bit of it, but I don't want to know any more, that is extraordinary to me.
It is.
And I think there's a couple of things to unpack there.
When we shot this series Tuesday, you spoke about two things that are really important.
Seeing the structures behind things, and therefore you understand why it's happening, and also seeing patterns in events and how that can generally lead to something which shows you why it's happening.
And I think without that, You're lost.
And that's what I think most of that mainstream alternative media are missing.
Hence why they look at events like COVID and they look at Ukraine and they look at, you know, what's going on in Russia and in Israel now.
And they don't see that actually that all interconnect.
You mentioned about the people standing up and supporting Israel that are also rallying against immigration when they don't know that one's actually coming from the other.
And I think without seeing that structure, that's probably why they're incredibly lost.
Some malevolently, some probably know exactly what they're doing, but Is this why for the last six months, seven months, you've been so relentlessly calling these people out?
Because you know that without this information, where none of them are going, we're never going to change anything.
That's why it's so important to point out that the answers are here and they're not giving you them, so look elsewhere.
Exactly that.
You know, I'm 72.
I don't need to take all the abuse that I take for calling these people out, because I'm calling people's heroes out.
But I say it's necessary.
I've not spent 35 years uncovering this and communicating this to now walk away from what needs to be done.
I won't do it.
And if people don't like it, well, they could do the other thing.
That's OK with me as well.
And this, here but no further, limitation, so personified by that interview with Tucker Carlson there.
Um, is what is holding us back from understanding the true magnitude of what's happening and also the answers to it because he talks about the fact that there's a, uh, it's a, it's a spiritual, uh, war basically, uh, going on, um, in the unseen.
Okay.
Uh, yeah, that's true.
But so who are you Tucker Carlson?
Who are you?
Are you only that physical body?
Your religion, Christianity, tells you that you're not.
You're a, quote, soul.
Where's your soul?
Yeah.
What you call your soul.
It's in the hidden.
It's in these other dimensions where this spiritual war is going on.
This spiritual manipulation is going on.
So you can't just say, um, I don't want to know anymore because I'm not part of that.
You are part of it.
We're all part of it.
His kids are definitely going to be part of it if nothing changes, you know?
So what you have is you have a population that's overwhelmingly like that.
That's what it's seeing the world like that.
Then you have a mainstream alternative media that's seeing it like that.
And that's called alternative.
But actually, it's like that.
And this is the point I've been making, and will go on making.
We've got to start going into those areas that challenge your religious belief, that challenge your political belief, that challenge your cultural belief, that challenge all belief, And let information be our guide and evidence be our guide and not preconceived ideas that make us do that.
And so I'm glad Tucker Carlson did that interview because he's made my point magnificently.
Yeah, it's bigger than I thought it was, but I don't want to know anymore.
I do.
I do.
It makes me think it correlates a lot with a lot of the self-development people talk about mindset and how you've always got to challenge yourself, because if you just settle in your comfort zone, that's where you'll fail.
You could apply that here.
If you only research information that's in a comfort zone of what you consider acceptable, whether that be a preconceived religious belief, political belief, whatever, You're never going to learn anything.
You're never actually going to uncover anything.
You're never going to be a maverick.
You're never going to actually take it forward.
You're just going to keep going around in circles, which is where they're going, which is incredibly frustrating.
But you know, that's unfortunately the way it is, which has definitely made you stand alone as somebody who's going further, which is, I think, only going to be beneficial moving forward.
So yeah, I keep emphasising that Whatever we know, there's always more to know.
And what a real, proper seeker of truth and seeker of what's happening does is constantly hold that thought.
Whatever I know, there's always more to know.
So the question is, what don't I know?
And that keeps you pushing on to learn more and more and more that they don't want us to know about.
And to say, OK, I kind of get that this is much bigger than I thought, but I don't want to know anymore.
That is actually the inversion of alternative to me.
Yeah, it is.
It's mainstream.
Because a lot of the mainstream know what's going on, just don't say it because it benefits their career.
It's pretty much the same principle, isn't it?
Well, thanks, Dad.
That's all if you're watching with us on xordavidot.com.
We're going to dive into, later in the show, why it is important to always pursue the cutting edge.
And if you don't question everything, what information you may miss and how dangerous that is.
We all know about that.
So head over to Iconic and see the rest of the show.
There's a lot of things that I've said over the years, which were perceived to be crazy.
and then suddenly they start to move mainstream.
I'm waiting for someone to convince me that we don't live in a simulation.
What is real?
How do you define real?
If you're talking about what you can feel, what you can smell, taste and see, then real is simply electrical signals interpreted by your brain.
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