Dec. 18, 2023 - David Icke
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| I'm going to take some questions today across a variety of subjects and one or two of them are about this period called Christmas and in so many ways the way we accept things without question just because they've like always been there is so indicative of the way we accept life in general and information in general All the media say it, or I learned it at school, or the politicians say it, the scientists say it, the doctors say it. | |
| And so much of what we accept as reality is just an unconscious feel, image, for how things are, based on repetition, in effect. | |
| And so if you are told as a small child that Christmas is about the birthday of Jesus and this continues to especially in a Christian family then there's a good chance that you will consciously or unconsciously relate Christmas to the birthday of Jesus but when you look at the background and you look at the evidence that is | |
| Nonsense! | |
| There's nothing to support that at all! | |
| And one of the things that I would suggest that we need to do as a human race is to start questioning what we have been led to believe, questioning what we're told, and see if it stands up to scrutiny. | |
| No matter if it comes from a priest, or a politician, a scientist, me, anybody! | |
| Instead of just accepting things, consciously or unconsciously, check it out, see if it stands up, or see if it makes sense to you, rather than just taking it off the peg, off the shelf, as a fully formed belief system. | |
| And questions like, Why? | |
| Who? | |
| When? | |
| How? | |
| These simple one-word questions can be devastating to the prevailing perception of everything. | |
| So when you look at Christmas, the idea is that it celebrates the birthday of Jesus who was born on our December the 25th in a manger in Bethlehem. | |
| And that all the things that the biblical story says happened. | |
| It's interesting that even though the New Age mentality kind of dismisses the Christian version of Jesus, they all also have their version of this figure. | |
| Well, it did exist like that, but it did exist, and does exist, All these other New Age stories, I think they call them in the New Age, is it Sananda or something like that? | |
| And again, it's all just another offshoot of a myth that's gone on for hundreds of years, indeed thousands in relation to Jesus and many more in relation to other figures Of which all the basic themes and pillars of the Jesus story were also attributed to long before anyone had ever heard of Jesus. | |
| It's a recurring story that is put into different historical settings and given a different name for the deity. | |
| So when we look at Christmas And we think it's kind of a relatively modern thing with the trees and the gifts and all that. | |
| In fact, it goes way back into antiquity, not least to a festival in Rome to their key god, Saturn, called Saturnalia. | |
| And Saturnalia was a festival of great debauchery Which began on December the 17th and ran for a week. | |
| And during that period, the Romans decorated trees in their homes, they exchanged gifts, they had holly, they had wreaths, and they had mistletoe. | |
| And a lot more than kissing went on under the mistletoe at the time of Saturnalia. | |
| And of course what happened was that this then was transferred into the Christian belief system and alongside this Saturnalia was also infused the deity of Mithra who was given the birthday in Rome of what has become our December the 25th It was a midwinter festival. | |
| And when you see what the Romans and others said about Mithra, in terms of the background to the deity and the story and all that, it is a mirror of what was later attributed to Jesus. | |
| Why? | |
| Because in 325 AD, At the Council of Nicaea, the Roman Emperor Constantine, who worshipped a deity called Sol Invictus, the unconquered sun, was involved in the creation, basically, of the structure and belief system of what we call Christianity. | |
| And there was a transfer from the previous what we would call pagan deities and belief systems and worship of Rome to Christianity and the reason that Romans and others had little difficulty with that transfer is because it was the same belief system the same story and it was just given | |
| A different, if you like, cover, narrative, and went on as before. | |
| And then, as the centuries have passed, these former pre-Christian, pagan festivals, stories, belief systems became accepted purely by repetition, repetition, repetition to be the Christian story, unique to Christianity. | |
| It's not. | |
| It wasn't. | |
| And so what we call Christmas, where so many around the world believe that they're celebrating the birthday of Jesus, Christmas and what they're celebrating is really a modern version of Saturnalia in Rome, fused in with the worship of pre-Jesus Jesus figures like Mithra, the Vine, the Only Begotten Son, all the same attributes to the pre-Christian deities. | |
| appeared with the later Jesus. | |
| They were just transferred. | |
| Well, I don't want to change my religion. | |
| Well, we're not changing religion. | |
| We're just changing the name of the deity. | |
| All right, I can handle that. | |
| And what happened is that, for instance, in ancient Babylon, they had a trinity of Nimrod, the father god, Tammuz, The son, and they said the father and son were one, for reasons I'll come to. | |
| And the third point of the Babylonian Trinity was Queen Semiramis, or Ishtar, also known as, very relevantly, Ishtar. | |
| And they said that when Nimrod died, he became the sun god Baal, an impregnated Semiramis Ishtar with the rays of the sun to give a virgin birth to Tammuz, the sun. | |
| And they said that Tammuz was an incarnation, a reincarnation of Nimrod, thus father and son were one. | |
| And when this belief system was transferred to Rome, at least through the movement of people. | |
| The Christian version became the Father God, Nimrod, the Son, Jesus, Virgin born. | |
| And the third point of the Christian trinity was the Holy Spirit, or the Holy Ghost, that is symbolized as a dove. | |
| And one of the symbols for Semiramis Ishtar in Babylon was the dove. | |
| And what the new Christianity, I say new, what the rewritten pagan belief system called Christianity then did, was take the attributes of what the Babylonians gave to Semiramis, which was Virgin Mother, Queen of Heaven, etc. | |
| And they transferred them to the figure of Mother Mary. | |
| Mother Mary is another version of Semiramis, the goddess in so many ways. | |
| And in this way, Christianity was formed, Christianity was created. | |
| And there are many people who are Christians today who realize this and they work their way around it to explain away why this can be because the historical facts if you look at them are facts so they can't say oh it's a load of rubbish so they have to find a narrative to explain it within still believing in the Christianity that they've always believed in | |
| I mean there was one Christian article about the real background to Christmas that I was reading this week that pointed out that this whole thing about Jesus' birthday on December 25th is just made up because nowhere in the Bible does it point out when this Jesus figure was supposed to be born And all this thing about shepherds watch their flock by night. | |
| This article pointed out that there are no flocks by night in mid-winter in that area of the world because it's too bloody cold. | |
| It pretty much ends around October. | |
| But even so, they find a way around it to protect the belief system. | |
| I spoke at an event once, a long time ago now, and there were quite a few Christians there, because it wasn't one of my events, I was a speaker at a big event of multiple subjects, and the Christians got around me, some of them did, afterwards, because I'd said some of the things I'm saying now, and I pointed out to one of these people, a lady, what I've just said about the background to Jesus and where it came from and that there were endless other deities before Jesus of which exactly the same basically was said and she said that's not true that's not true and then another Christian guy next to her said actually it is so she thought about it for a minute and she said well well it doesn't matter anyway because the belief system must be protected from all borders and all challenge no matter what the evidence and | |
| I found this article this week, again a Christian article, which is accepting the real background to Christmas and where it came from, but again doing the mental gymnastics to protect the belief system. | |
| It's quite instructive to read really. | |
| It says, Dear Reader, Isn't it amazing that no one knows the date of the most important birth in the history of mankind? | |
| Well, if it didn't take place, not really, mate. | |
| We know the birthdates of many famous ancient men from the Caesars to the Pharaohs, and in fact in Egypt, birthday celebrations can be documented back to the 13th century BC. | |
| So if Jesus is real, and the story is real, and the historical setting is real, so why not the same with Jesus, as the writer points out, or claims is, the date of the most important birth in the history of mankind? | |
| I think there's more to know. | |
| But he says, but there is not a single reference in all 66 books of the Bible and not one mention in early church literature pinpointing the date of Christ's birth. | |
| Now, here's the gymnastics coming, here's the I'm going to disappear at my own backside and I'm going to take a torch coming. | |
| Obviously, God did not want us to know the date Christ was born! | |
| We must remember that the Son of God pre-existed from eternity with the Father, just like in Babylon. | |
| Perhaps for us to affix a date of birth to Christ, who always existed, is to detract from his divinity. | |
| One thing is certain, if God wanted the church to celebrate the birth of his son, he would have told us to do so. | |
| Reasonable minds... Did he just say that? | |
| Reasonable minds can only conclude that the reason the Bible is silent on the subject is because it was never God's intention for Christ's birthday to be celebrated. | |
| So you've got Christians who believe the whole story. | |
| You've got people like this who see that that whole part of the story is nonsense but then protect the belief system of Jesus by this sort of thing. | |
| And you've got the New Age mentality that dismisses the Jesus story biblically but has, what is it, Sananda, whatever, this Christ figure in New Age belief. | |
| It's just Different versions of the same belief system download. | |
| Being unable to get across that chasm of understanding that not only is parts of it not true, none of it's true. | |
| It's all just a repeating historical story, a narrative. | |
| And then this finishes However, we do celebrate Christ's death. | |
| It is through his death and atoning sacrifice that we are reconciled to God and have forgiveness of sin. | |
| Every time we partake of the communion of the bread and cup, we are celebrating the death that purchased our redemption. | |
| I won't even start with that. | |
| But, God God didn't want us to celebrate Christ's birthday, so he didn't tell us. | |
| And that all came, in fact, from the ancient world, the December 25th midwinter festival period, which became Christmas, Saturnalia. | |
| But God did want us to celebrate his death. | |
| Kind of a bit perverse. | |
| And when is his death celebrated? | |
| Why do you celebrate someone's death? | |
| I don't know. | |
| Maybe it's me. | |
| When do we celebrate the death of Jesus? | |
| Easter. | |
| And Easter comes from the very same source that Christmas does. | |
| The ancient pre-Christian world. | |
| In Babylon, The goddess was known as Queen Semiramis or Ishtar or Ishtar. | |
| Ishtar comes from Babylon and the ancient world in general that followed a Babylonian type religion. | |
| Easter eggs, Babylon. | |
| Bunnies, symbol of Semiramis Ishtar. | |
| Babylon, hot cross buns, come from the pagan world. | |
| And so we are constantly taking on beliefs because of repetition and because of our location and our family and environment. | |
| In the sense that, if you are born in the Islamic world to an Islamic family, you are almost certainly going to become a Muslim and believe in the Muslim religion and the Muslim story. | |
| If you are born into a Jewish family and a Jewish community, you are almost certainly going to believe in the stories of Judaism and follow their rituals. | |
| And if you're born into a Christian family, there's a very, very good chance you are going to go through your life believing in the Christian story. | |
| Indeed, there are people of other religions that believe in the Christian story. | |
| It's just a web! | |
| So, location and upbringing equals information people download from the earliest ages that then becomes their either conscious or unconscious belief system. | |
| And this story of Jesus Christmas Easter and the way it's accepted to be true when it's not, the way festivals are believed to be because of this when they're not, is just a classic example of how people take on perceptions For no other reason than where they were born, where they were brought up, the environment, in other words, information download to which they were subjected as they were brought up, and the repetition, repetition, repetition of information which becomes a belief system. | |
| And if there's one New Year's resolution that would Change people's lives and change, collectively, human society. | |
| It would be if people stopped taking their beliefs unquestioningly off the shelf, stopped downloading their perceptions from others, and start with a blank sheet of paper and say, anything comes on here has to go through my filter. | |
| My research My feeling, my intuition, whatever, and only then does it get on this piece of paper, in other words, only then do I accept its validity in becoming part of my perception. | |
| And I tell you what, if people did that on a vast scale, if people did that just individually, they would be shocked! | |
| at how much they have believed consciously and again unconsciously during their life that had no validity whatsoever. | |
| And if more do that, then more will see through the perception deception that keeps the human race in such unquestioning servitude. | |
| There's a lot of things that I've said over the years, which were perceived to be crazy. | |
| and then suddenly they start to move mainstream. | |
| I'm waiting for someone to convince me that we don't live in a simulation. | |
| What is real? | |
| How do you define real? | |
| If you're talking about what you can feel, what you can smell, taste and see, then real is simply electrical signals interpreted by your brain. |
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