Nov. 23, 2023 - David Icke
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| Hello everybody and welcome to this week's Dot Connector. | |
| Dad, how are you? | |
| I'm good, yeah. | |
| Well, what is going to be expected? | |
| Yeah, it's been a busy week and it's been an interesting one. | |
| Plenty of stuff for us to get into. | |
| But we're going to start where we kind of started last week but we only really touched on it, which was the show you did last week with James Dellingpole in Manchester. | |
| Because since we recorded last week's episode, a few more things have happened on Twitter and in private conversations which we've been made aware of. | |
| Do you want to tell people a bit of background on what's come? | |
| Yeah, well it's funny, you know, I've been pointing out now for months, I mean I mentioned it in The Dream and I finished that in the summer, that I was very concerned at the way, particularly since Covid, the alternative media had been hijacked. | |
| Certainly the central part of it, what I call the mainstream alternative, have been hijacked by people who knew nothing before, initially got awakened from pioneers, the few, and then suddenly they want to Bash through the saloon doors and say, we're here now, we're taking over. | |
| And as so often happens in my life, when I'm on that thread or a thread, something happens to kind of put it right in your face. | |
| That's what happened with James Dillingpole. | |
| James Dillingpole is, for people that don't know the guy, he is a journalist or former journalist with the Daily Mail and the Telegraph and others. | |
| And he invited me to sit on the stage and be interviewed by him in front of an audience in Manchester. | |
| Beforehand, I met a few people, and I met his sister, who seems to be a lovely lady, actually. | |
| And she said to me that she had been reading my books for quite a time. | |
| Since 97, she said. | |
| Yeah, 97. | |
| Well, that's a long time, yeah. | |
| And she was pointing out to James Dellingpole, you know, you need to look at that. | |
| To look at this. | |
| And Delingpole was laughing at her because it's David Icke. | |
| He's that crazy guy with the lizards and all that stuff. | |
| But then COVID hit. | |
| And he realized, actually, that what I've been saying was true. | |
| And he invited me on this show, gave me no pre-idea of what was involved, except he was going to interview me on the stage, OK? | |
| So we did this, and he took exception to the fact, particularly in the second half, that I was not answering the questions in the way he would like, in terms of saying things that were outside his religious belief, because he says he's a Christian. | |
| You don't agree? | |
| That's fine. | |
| Just have a chat and the audience make their mind up what they want to believe. | |
| So then I go home and then I get an email, or we did, from one of the people in the audience saying that Delingpole is trashing you on Telegram. | |
| Some group he's got. | |
| At the same time, he's posted on Twitter, oh yeah, we've got a little bit of a disagreement, but you know, thanks, it was a great show. | |
| Thank you, David. | |
| And in the background, on Telegram, he's trashing me. | |
| And, you know, entirely to his opinion, but, you know, there is such a thing as grace and dignity and respect. | |
| And when you've invited someone to take part in a show with you, And you're okay, you've not agreed on certain things, particularly, you know, his Christian religion, here and no further kind of way of seeing the world. | |
| That's okay, but then okay, you get on with it, and the video goes out, still hasn't gone out. | |
| No, it hasn't. | |
| Well, let's have it out soon. | |
| And people make of it what they will, and that's it, and everyone gets on with their lives. | |
| But instead, Very un-Christian-like, actually. | |
| He was trashing me, and the thing that really struck me was when he said, I'm the authentic one, Ike is not authentic, and I'm thinking, Hold on a minute. | |
| I've been doing this for 34 years, until five minutes ago, you were laughing at me, and laughing at your sister for reading my books, and then suddenly you realize, hey, some of this is true, and now you're the authentic one, and the person doing it for 34 years is not. | |
| I thought it was incredibly disrespectful, but more than that, It was a really extreme example of what I've been pointing out. | |
| These people have come out of the shadows, often out of the mainstream. | |
| They've got their information from the pioneers. | |
| not acknowledge that, just repeated it and created what I've been describing as this | |
| barricade where you can only go so far and no further. | |
| So it's all about politics and the World Economic Forum and Bill Gates. | |
| It's all in that what you might call five sense arena and they've basically taken it | |
| over and they're focusing attention on the fact that the answers, and we've seen examples | |
| of it this week, the answers to the conspiracy and the incessant move towards dystopia is | |
| is political. | |
| What it's absolutely not. | |
| That's part of the problem. | |
| That's part of the trap. | |
| And it was extraordinary to think that someone could have the lack of grace and the lack of dignity to start hurling abuse in my direction. | |
| When, five minutes ago, he thought I was crazy. | |
| He's not woken up. | |
| He's woken up to a fraction of what's actually going on. | |
| The point with the interview in Manchester was that when I was going here, he didn't want to go there. | |
| Because if you go here, then the walls of his Christian belief system fall down. | |
| You know, I've met a lot of Christian people as I've traveled around the world, and there are a lot of them who, while I wouldn't agree with the way they see the world, They use their Christianity to express their spirituality, to express their decency. | |
| They're thoroughly decent people, trying to do thoroughly decent things. | |
| And that's great. | |
| But what I saw this week, I can only describe it as the Delingpole mob on Telegram, with him stimulating it. | |
| Is that there's some of the most un-Christian people you would ever meet. | |
| And you know, when you've been doing this for 34 years, taken all the crap and all the ridicule and all the abuse, still do, and then these people come out and just want to completely discredit you, who've been looking at this for five minutes, it's quite a It's quite a sight to behold. | |
| I mean, there's an example you've got there of a so-called Christian who described me in those terms. | |
| Let's have a look. | |
| Yes, so this is Ben Bootneck. | |
| Nice guy by the sound of it. | |
| This is a responding to Delingpole's tweet. | |
| Sorry, Delingpole's initial message in this group where he says about his issues. | |
| But one of the key takeaway from this is the man is a trap. | |
| He is leading awake people into the new age. | |
| That's how he describes you, which is Yeah. | |
| Well, let's just stop there for a second. | |
| I'm leading people into the new age. | |
| I mean, who's challenged the new age? | |
| Yeah, you massively. | |
| More than me. | |
| But because he's so uninformed, Darling Paul, and I'm just using him as an example of the mentality which I've seen come in to the so-called alternative media, the mainstream of it. | |
| He's so uninformed that he mistakes talking about metaphysics with a New Age philosophy. | |
| Yeah, so like you were talking to him about the simulation, weren't you? | |
| Yeah, oh, he wouldn't have that, because I mean it doesn't mention simulation in the Bible. | |
| And this is what I'm talking about, Jay. | |
| Once you have a belief system that is not negotiable, as he has, he uses that as his kind of whole crutch and identity, then | |
| there's all that infinite knowledge, infinite awareness that's waiting beyond the walls of the | |
| religious belief or political belief, whatever it is, but you're never going to go there. | |
| And this is why I keep talking about this here and no further barricade where you only stay within the religious belief and within political, financial, and World Economic Forum belief. | |
| And it's hijacked the alternative media. | |
| And it's stopping people realizing that beyond that, is a phenomenal amount to know that would explain it all in a way that that will never do. | |
| Yeah, and you'd think, given what's Delingpole 50, he's been in the mainstream most of his career, he'd have been through events like 9-11, 7-7s, all those things, weapons of mass destruction, working in the mainstream media, had so many chances to wake up, to see it, and was probably in those days part of the problem, so you think you'd have a little bit of humility. | |
| Humility, that's what's been rather dramatically missing. | |
| Oh, absolutely. | |
| So this is the Christian guy. | |
| This is Ben Bootneck, if that's your real surname, that's amazing. | |
| Finally, the truth. | |
| The man is a fraud, this is obviously describing you, a charlatan, a bullshitting con artist and a 33rd degree freemason. | |
| Amazing, you've kept that from me for 31 years. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Jesuit agent. | |
| Very careful not to mention that Jay. | |
| He's under the control of Satan and as such should now be shieded, deraided and mocked as such. | |
| Odious, despicable, Luciferians as are his, and I won't say this word, sons. | |
| Thank you Ben, I've never met you and I never wish to, but thank you for your lovely description of me. | |
| But that's someone who claims to be Christian. | |
| I know, that's the love of God coming out in him. | |
| Yeah, so this is what I'm talking about. | |
| There are Christians that express their spirituality and their decency through Christianity. | |
| Good luck to them! | |
| And there are those that talk about being Christian, well, being absolutely everything that you would think a Christian wouldn't be, and it's a self-deception on a monumental scale. | |
| And of course, from this, we see this view from the Mainstream alternative that right-wing politicians are kind of the answer and people punch the air when right-wing politicians and parties Get in but I would just say and we'll come to that in a second, but I would just say To mr. Dalling poll get the video out. | |
| Yes, let's people see it and And apart from your telegram groupies, people will look at it, they'll see what happened and they'll go, what was Delingpole talking about? | |
| So get it out there, what's keeping you? | |
| Yeah, and the thing he's exposed himself massively on as well is, you know, we had a bit of a back and forth on Twitter, me and him, because he claimed that it was a private group A group that when I tried to join, ironically, it said I'd been banned by an admin. | |
| So that's how I first went at him. | |
| I was like, look, you're a freedom of speech advocate, why have I been banned? | |
| And he tried to claim it was some standard telegram message. | |
| I was like, well, two people in the same room as me have just joined with no problem, so I don't get that. | |
| And he couldn't really defend that. | |
| You know, he might be right, it might have been an error, but it certainly didn't look good. | |
| But he was saying it was a private group, whereas you've decided to speak on Twitter in a public domain. | |
| Telegram's not a private group, because firstly it's got nearly 6,000 members, and secondly anyone can join it apparently. | |
| What he means is he thought he could say it and not get caught. | |
| Yeah, my point was about being disingenuous. | |
| Don't put on Twitter where the big audience is, oh thank you David, lovely, we disagreed but never mind, great show. | |
| And then trash me on another one. | |
| That's completely disingenuous and that's not what the alternative media should be. | |
| The alternative media should, the real one as opposed to the mainstream one, the genuine one, it's seeking knowledge. | |
| It doesn't have ring fences that it will not cross in search of more knowledge. | |
| That's what the mainstream Alternative does and Delingpole is a wonderful prime example after my experience of him in the last week. | |
| Yeah and final one on this because I think it's an interesting point to cover is if the mainstream alternative media, so people that were mainstream that were slowly waking up and so on, you know your Andrew Tate, your Russell Brands, people like that, if they saw themselves and had some humility and saw themselves as like the bridge Well, you know what? | |
| I can reach people that these guys necessarily at the moment can't, but I'm not going to pretend to know everything, and if you ask me about things I don't know about, I'm going to push you in this direction towards people who have been around and done a lot more research than I. I think we both agree we have no problem with that. | |
| No problem. | |
| It's the ego that these people seem to have, because of their blue tick 2 million plus followers on Twitter. | |
| They think they... I know everything, and I'm not going to even pretend these people exist. | |
| That's where our problem with them comes in, doesn't it? | |
| Yeah, I mean, my background, of course, is I started out with no alternative media at all. | |
| I watched it appear. | |
| I watched it in its very initial period, you know, struggle to get a platform. | |
| I watched it grow, I watched it after 9-11 massively increase and then more massively after Covid of course. | |
| And as someone who's been doing this from a time when there was virtually no one else doing it, there was some but not many, it was very scattered and there was no structure to it at all. | |
| I love it! | |
| When new people come in and I'm interviewed all the time every week by people in the alternative media many who've come in relatively recently. | |
| And they're great people. | |
| They talk to you, they're respectful of what you're saying and what you've done. | |
| And even if the stuff you're saying to them is new to them at the time, they're open to listening and letting it see how it pans out and what the evidence is and all that. | |
| And they're great, and they're the genuine alternative media. | |
| The I've got no problem with them. | |
| They're fantastic. | |
| More and more, please. | |
| It's this arrogant. | |
| I'm here now mentality that just dismisses what's gone before and and we're here now so we know it all. | |
| And you've got people who are Making statements about situations without having a clue what they're talking about. | |
| To watch the whole of the Dot Connector this week, go to iconic.com from 7pm on Friday. | |
| I And then suddenly, they start to move mainstream. | |
| I'm waiting for someone to convince me that we don't live in a simulation. | |
| What is real? | |
| How do you define real? | |
| If you're talking about what you can feel, what you can smell, taste and see, then real is simply electrical signals interpreted by your brain. |
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