Right Now - Ben Gordon joins Gareth Icke to discuss his traumatic time in hospital
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This week on Right Now, musician Ben Gordon talks to us about his recent horrific experiences in an Arizona hospital.
Lawyer Jeroen Pols joins us from the Netherlands to talk about taking on the Dutch government over coronavirus restrictions and how 5% of vaccines are causing serious side effects and death.
Professor Gloria Moss tells us about leaving mainstream academia in England to set up her
own truth university and why certain personality types see through the current narrative more
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It's been another week of madness and I always find it helps to recap, you know, just to make sure that you're actually aware that this is actually happening and it's not just a dream you had after eating too much cheese.
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UK politicians are testing themselves for HIV and tweeting pictures of themselves doing it despite being happily married and I assume...
Not sharing needles.
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There's no reason for anyone to have a conversation across a table that big unless you suspect that the other one has a bomb.
Sajid Javid is telling NHS Trust to insist their staff a jab despite u-turning on the staff having to be jabbed rule.
He's a little bit soft-boiled that egg.
The fully vaccinated Canadian women's ice hockey team played their match against Russia with masks on.
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Jimmy Carr, he told a joke, and actually, on a personal level, I saw a double masker in the pub, really.
I mean, sure, okay, I've read about them, I've seen them on the telly, but this is the first one that I witnessed in the flesh, you know, out in the wild.
It looked at me. Oh, and Premier League footballer Kurt Zouma posted a video of himself booting his pet cat around the kitchen, which I presume makes him feel like a big brave boy.
It's not even the weekend yet.
Our first guest tonight, he says he's lucky to be alive after a recent experience in hospital in America.
Ben Gordon says paramedics knocked him out with sedatives at the scene of a minor road accident.
He then woke up hours later in hospital on a ventilator, catheter and a drip after apparently being diagnosed with COVID-19.
He's managed to leave, but he believes the hospital was trying to kill him under the guise of the virus.
He says he wants his story to be heard as a warning to others.
Welcome to Right Now. Can you tell us what happened?
Yeah, sure.
So the accident occurred somewhere in the neighborhood of noon on Sunday, January the 30th.
I had not had enough sleep the night prior.
I couldn't sleep in the morning.
I took an herbal sleep aid.
It didn't work.
I tossed, turned, and at 11 o'clock, Or 1130, I went to the only place in town here to get a burger and fries and hoping that that would tire me out.
I ordered a beer. I got about four sips into that beer and I felt just unwell.
I would learn later that valerian and alcohol are not supposed to be mixed.
Anyway, I was like, just go home.
And I didn't make it home.
To my recollection, I felt like there was an impact on the car.
First. But anyway, they say that the car rolled one complete revolution and ended up on all four wheels.
So there I was.
I was upright.
Big impact. I was examining the surroundings of the car.
The windshield was all spiderwebbed, but gelled out and sinking in.
The glass next to me was crashed out.
The glass on the passenger side was crashed out.
I then started feeling around.
There was superficial blood.
I could tell nothing was deep.
There was no gushing of anything.
I moved my limbs the best I could.
I tried to open the door, but it was bent just enough where it wasn't going to open.
And there was enough glass still left in the door or in the window that if I tried to crawl out, it was not going to be good.
I would cut myself. So it couldn't have been more than...
Ten minutes later, when I map where this Copper Canyon Fire and Rescue is, they're seven minutes away.
And by the way, I haven't been saying this enough, but you can look at the crash pictures on Copper Canyon Fire's Facebook page.
They have three. So, the first and only interaction that I have is with an EMT who's walking towards the car while simultaneously unzipping this formed little case.
And out came a needle.
And I protested, and I said, no, no, no, no.
Like, what the hell?
And he said, we're just going to calm me down, boss.
And before I knew it, it went black.
That's insane. So, I mean, this sounds like something from a horror film because, you know, you're drugged at the side of the road.
You then, you know, you woke up on a ventilator.
I mean, people will find this hard to believe because it seems like something from a horror film.
So what happened next then?
You came around in the hospital.
Yeah, so I would learn later that approximately seven hours had passed.
But the very first next memory was me both...
Coming to in this burst of energy and adrenaline.
And without hesitation, there was no conscious thought.
It was almost like it came from my subconscious.
But I immediately started pulling this thing out of me.
And it was so long.
And then I followed the tube and looked.
And it was connected to a ventilator.
And I could feel a sort of a subtle coursing.
I don't think they had it set at 100%.
But anyway, I dropped the tube.
I immediately went for the IV. So I pulled the tape off, slowly moved the needle out.
And then I realized that there was a catheter.
And I went for that too.
And like I said, there was no thought.
It was just like, this is what must be done.
And that was excruciatingly painful.
And in catheters, there's a little balloon at the end with like 10 milliliters of saline, and that popped on its exit.
So I was bleeding from that area.
I immediately grabbed the hospital sheet To cover it.
It took two seconds before the blood was coming through.
I found my black shorts that had been cut off me sitting next to the bed.
Apparently that's how they do things around there.
They just leave your clothes strewn about.
I covered that.
I went to the door.
I opened the door.
To the left was a desk and four staff members.
And I said, why in the hell did you vent me?
And they all just looked at each other Like, they were seeing The Walking Dead.
And they started coming towards me like, sir, go back into your room, go.
And I backed up.
I kept myself face forward to them.
And I kind of got in the door.
And I'm like, why did you put me on a vent?
No answer. No answer whatsoever.
They just looked at each other like they got caught.
I don't know how else to describe it.
So eventually we did.
Now go on, so I just want to say, the reason...
They're saying you had Covid, right?
That's their...
Right, I'm being like... How would they know that if you're unconscious?
Yeah, so I'm being super chronological right now.
Oh, sorry, mate. Sorry. I apologize.
No, that's okay.
And then we backed up.
I did agree to kind of go into the room.
By the way, when I was in that hallway, I saw no hustle bustle, typical hospital scene.
It was kind of dark in there.
It just looked wrong. So I back up into the room.
I'm standing still facing the door in case I need to like get out.
Like someone else comes at me with something and they re-hook me up to this thing.
So there's like a half moon of staff.
Two young security in the doorway that did not look imposing.
Like I could have easily muscled through them.
And then one young nurse to my left.
I'm saying nurse because that's just the vibe I got.
And like a doctor type to my right.
And only this nurse to my left spoke.
So on my third query, why did you put me on a ventilator?
The young nurse said, because you have COVID in the snottiest tone ever.
And I said, okay.
So you tested me for COVID and I'm positive?
You just put me on a late stage, end of life, life support system And does it look to you like I'm having a problem talking, breathing, standing?
No answer. They said, you have a broken nose.
Okay. You're not answering my question.
So from there, I said, what was in that IV? And again, the snotty young nurse type said propofol, fentanyl, morphine.
Now, I don't know that they were giving me all of that at the same time.
I can't imagine that...
I don't know. So I'm also asking for a lawyer.
I need to speak to my lawyer.
I sort of feigned that I had some guy, high-dollar guy lined up.
I don't have a lawyer. But I was demanding one nonetheless.
And the demeanor of that staff, I can only describe...
Now, I could only see their eyes because, of course, they're wearing masks.
Was juvenile.
Like children.
Like at no point, and they had a million opportunities, they could have...
I'm sure that some people in hospitals are good at deescalating, helping a person not be confused.
At no point did they say, no, no, no, no, no, no.
You are on a ventilator because of this, but additionally you tested positive for COVID.
You weren't on the ventilator for COVID.
They didn't say that.
And they had 45 minutes to an hour in my estimation to clarify that.
The only thing that they told me was because you have COVID. So what injuries do you have?
Because looking at you, I mean, obviously I can't see your legs, but looking at you, you seem fine.
You don't seem like, you know, obviously you've had a prang in your car, but without the door being jammed, you would have, I guess, just got out and been...
Absolutely. There's absolutely...
I had a low-grade sort of twisted muscle feeling in my lower back that is completely healed beyond that.
Not a thing.
They didn't even wipe off the blood from my face.
Like they didn't even like clean that up.
It was like they had no intention of ever letting me leave.
So what did they do when you tried to leave?
What was their reaction?
So... To just kind of go right from where I left off, I repeatedly asked for a lawyer.
They didn't say anything about that.
The staff started having a different demeanor slowly.
They were kind of like letting go.
Like, there's nothing we can do about this situation.
So at this point, a fifth staff member came in.
And she had a little piece of paper and she said, is this a good contact for you?
It's my sister's name and number.
And I said, yeah, but I'm just going to get out of here.
As of yesterday, in the four attempts that I had with hospital records to get them sent to me immediately and I sent my ID, she said, we need your ID for the release, but we also still don't know who you are.
So their claim is that they not only had my sister's contact, I was tagged as a John Doe.
And all these days later, they still don't know who I am.
Those things can't simultaneously be true.
Of course not. It doesn't make any sense.
So what is your...
I mean, it's probably hard not to think that something nefarious is going on here.
Do you think they were trying to kill you?
Well, just to cover all the bases with this, I was well versed on the horror stories over the last two years.
It would not surprise me.
However, I hold out a little bit that maybe they forgot to keep the meds coming.
That's a possibility.
Or the third possibility is that Maybe they keep me on a vent long enough to get the money and they were going to let me go later.
There's no way for me to know, but it seemed so shady all the way around.
And the fact that they say they still don't know my name as of yesterday, there's a lot of other weird stuff.
I don't know how much time you have, but in that attempt to get the hospital records yesterday, I had three calls with a woman named Sharon.
On the third call, she finally had my request for medical records that I sent certified.
So we're on the phone and she has them in her hands.
She says, there's one issue with this.
You checked all records, but then you checked all the other boxes additionally.
You didn't see a behavioral therapist, did you?
And I go, no. And then she said, do I have permission to cross that out?
I said, of course. And then she said, okay, both sides of your ID to this email because we still don't know who you are.
And I was like, okay.
So I send that email. How do you have my sister's number?
Even if she had my sister's number, if the social worker had my sister's number, wouldn't you then ask her who I am?
Makes sense. So I get an email.
The day of reaching out with the records department at 8.30 and they close at 4.30.
And it says, got your documents, but there was no request for medical records attached.
And I was like, that was the thing you were holding in your hand while we were talking on the phone.
So I don't know if they're saying they just...
And they haven't responded to any emails since.
How do you feel about the situation?
Because I'm obviously, you know, I'm over here in England.
I'm on the outside and I'm thinking, right, so what I know so far is you've had a minor car accident.
Someone's drugged you at the side of the road.
They've taken you off. They've put you in a hospital.
They've put a medical device on you that could kill you if you don't need it.
And now they won't let you have the medical records.
I mean, how does that make you feel?
Because that seems shady as can be.
Well, I feel unsurprised because the amount of emails from household names that we all know and all kinds of people in between former and current ICU people, it sounds so shame.
I haven't had a single person reach out that says that, oh, no, no, no, no.
Like, this is probably what they were doing and you're probably just jumping the gun.
Nobody. So I was told very early on that I would have a devil of a time getting these records and when I do get the records they are going to try to smear the crap out of me because I'm pretty sure at this point that tons of people have called the hospital and I just before going live here looked at the Yelp reviews for this hospital And you wouldn't believe the amount of one stars.
And then people were sharing my video on this Yelp page.
Whether I get the records, that would be amazing to see what they put on there.
But I have absolutely no confidence that it's going to be accurate in any way.
There's too much publicity around this.
And they're going to have to make me look like a terrible person.
Well, I hope you do get the records.
But like you say, it wouldn't surprise me if it's kind of edited or fabricated or whatever.
If it's something that's kind of pointing towards the fact that basically they've tried to kill you, then they're obviously not going to release that.
But thanks for coming on, Ben.
And thanks for telling your story as well.
I've seen the video. I'm sure lots of people at home have seen the video that you made immediately afterwards.
And we appreciate you speaking out.
And like I say, I really hope you do get those medical records.
It'd be great to get some justice or at least to kind of find out exactly what went on and be able to draw a line under it for you personally.
Absolutely. And I'll let you guys know if there's any developments.