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Nov. 16, 2021 - David Icke
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David Icke & Jo Wood Talk About The Awakening, Reptilians & ‘Covid’
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My guest today needs no introduction.
It is...
David Icke! Yay!
David, I'm so thrilled to talk to you.
That was so lovely. Very nice to be with you, Jo.
And it's good to see you too.
Thank you. So I suppose we'd better start.
Let me see. I've got these questions written down here.
So this is about UFOs and aliens.
I want to know, firstly, have you ever had any experience, extraterrestrial experience or seen a UFO or seen aliens or...?
We've all seen strange things in the sky, but it doesn't mean that they're not explainable, although many of them aren't.
But my interest, Joe, really, in the whole non-human phenomena, what we call extraterrestrial, is how that relates to the manipulation of human society.
And, you know, I've become infamous since the 1990s.
Yeah, I know. Well, I've been infamous for a lot of things, but infamous since the 1990s when I started saying that behind the The human control system behind the structure of global control is actually a non-human race that takes a reptilian form and connects into this other group that goes under the name of the Greys, you know, the classic Greys of UFOs.
So you think they are connected with the greys?
The reptilians?
Oh, I think so, yeah. And I think they're the dominant force there.
And what I... I became interested in that phenomenon for.
It was not that I pulled it out of the ether, smoking some weed or something.
I had some extraordinary experiences and very synchronistic experiences.
Since the top of my head blew off in 1990 and 91, and I was launched into a whole new life.
Well, is that the Terry Wogan show that did that?
Well, it started before that.
That was just the public manifestation of it.
But some amazing things.
I mean, just amazing things.
I mean, if you put them in a movie, they'd say, oh, come on.
But they happened.
And it launched me on this journey of discovery, not just in the whole extraterrestrial arena, but Who the hell is running the world and to what end?
This is why I predicted current events in books a long time ago.
What is the nature of reality itself?
If we don't understand the nature of reality, i.e.
physicality is an illusion, it's a holographic, non-physical world that we live in...
You see, I don't get that.
I heard you say something like that the other day, and I heard you say, this...
It's an illusion. And I thought, how can what I touch, what I feel, what I see, that's my reality?
Yeah, it's your reality, yeah, but it's your experienced reality.
But it doesn't mean it's physical.
You see, if you've got a...
Well, the great thing now, especially for people like me, is that what we're trying to get across has analogies all over the place in the technological world that we live in.
So if you put a headset on, a virtual reality headset.
Oh, one of those, yeah.
And that's driving what?
Information through your eyes into your brain.
You put the gloves on in these more sophisticated ones, and that's driving touch information to your brain.
You've got the audio doing the same.
And what the brain then does is decode that, just like a computer does, into a reality.
And as you can see when you see people who are sitting in a room like this, But they've got a headset on and they're reacting as if what's happening in there is real.
And that's a fantastic analogy to the world we actually live in.
Because there is no external world of physicality.
It's going on in here.
And how it works is the base foundation of this reality is waveform information.
Very simple analogy. Think Wi-Fi.
You know, if there was Wi-Fi in this room, where is it?
You can't see it.
But the computer tunes into that Wi-Fi and it takes information in a radiation form, a waveform.
And it puts it on the screen in a completely different form.
It's the same information but it's in a different form.
What happens is that the five senses...
They're tapping into waveform information.
They turn that into electrical information.
They feed it to the brain, and the brain decodes it into holographic, digital holographic information, which we perceive as the external world.
And if you think of just the voice, that's a classic.
I'm speaking to you now.
But words are not leaving me.
An information waveform field is leaving me, generated by my vocal cords.
The ears of people then pick up that waveform, what we call sound waves, obviously.
They turn it into electrical information, they feed it to the brain, and then the brain hears, decodes that waveform field in an electrical form by then into what we call words, language that we hear.
So, you know, I have this thing I do in some of my talks.
Does a falling tree make a noise?
Well, the answer is only if you hear it.
Because what a falling tree does, the tree in its base form is a waveform information field.
And as it falls, it's falling through the field of possibility, probability that we're interconnected with, like a sea of consciousness.
And as it falls, it creates a disturbance in the field.
And if there's someone there within decoding shot, if you like, they'll pick up that disturbance and they'll turn it into electrical information, which goes to the brain, and they will hear the sound of a tree falling.
But if there's nobody there to decode that waveform disturbance, then the fallen tree doesn't make any noise.
And to understand...
The world that we live in, how these, I'll call them extraterrestrial groups, manipulate us.
You have to understand the illusory nature of physical reality, because so much Is impossible if you're coming from physicality.
For instance, one of the things I've been, you know, laughed at about by people who just don't understand reality is when I talk about shape-shifting.
You see, I'm fascinated about shape-shifting.
Because these reptilians shape-shift into human form.
The world, you know, people say, where are the aliens?
Well, they're on your bloody television.
LAUGHTER They are!
They're running the world!
I always believed that Because, especially now, with the governments all saying the same narrative, there's somebody behind that.
There has to be. There's got to be somebody that's telling all the governments what to do at the same time.
And then I've also had this thing about years ago, I saw a video on YouTube about a guy...
And he was talking about beings that thrive on fear and they call it louche.
100%. 100% right.
These reptilians feed off fear.
And that's why a major, major reason there are others...
Why human society is structured to generate maximum fear, anxiety, all these low vibrational emotions.
So if you think of the Avatar movie, that is just a magnificent...
I love that movie.
But that is a magnificent symbol of what's actually happening.
If you remember, you had the blue people, the Navi on their moon or whatever it was.
Yeah. And...
Ah, those guys shape-shifted into one of them.
Yeah, the American military arrived and they want to take this place over because they want these resources.
If you take the American military in the Avatar movie...
And you say, well, actually take them to symbolize the reptilians.
That's exactly what's happening.
So if the American military had tried to take over Navi society while looking human, well, the Navi would go, hold on a minute, what?
Why are these people that don't look like us in all the positions of power?
Right? So what they did, as you say, they took an outer shell of the Navi and they infiltrated Navi society by looking like them.
That's exactly what is going on.
And this shape-shifting is all part of that.
Because... People say you can't shift from a physical form to a physical form.
And funnily enough, you can't.
And it would be impossible if that was the situation.
But there is no physical.
What we're looking at is information fields.
This body is an information field.
Which you and everyone else watching this is decoding into a holographic version of that information field.
What these reptilian-human hybrids have, which have been talked about going way back into history, is a dual information field.
One is human.
One is reptilian.
And of course, in the natural course of events, that human field is the one that's projected to the world.
So if I'm looking at one of these hybrids, these human-reptilian hybrids, and they're projecting the human field, which they do almost the entirety of the time for the same reason that the American military hid behind the navi bodies in the Avatar movie.
Well, I'm going to decode that in my head as a holographic expression of that information field.
But when there's a shift from the human field to the reptilian field, it's not a physical shift.
There is no physical. It is a waveform information field shift.
To my observed reality, to my decoded reality, I have seen a physical form shift into a different physical form.
That's in the decoding systems of the human psyche.
It's not an actual fact.
And so...
So how did you get to...
This is how the infiltration is happening.
How did you get to discover this yourself then?
Well, from the time that I had just those amazing experiences in 1990, And how did they happen, those experiences?
What happened to you?
Well, it's a long story.
It's a long story.
But some amazing things happened that we could get into them when we've got more time, if you like.
But what happened is I was launched to a full-time, and I mean full-time.
I mean, I'm working seven days a week on this, for Research into who runs the world and why and to what end.
And it's not the people we see or think.
What's been happening after those amazing experiences, my life became an extraordinary series of synchronistic happenings.
It's going on to this day.
Where information and experience, books, documents, whistleblowers, all these different sources of information would come to me in a very synchronistic, coordinated way.
And what has been happening is, first of all, in the very early 90s, all the information coming to me in this way was about the fact that...
There's another force behind governments, and governments actually are not running anymore.
And then from about the mid-90s, maybe 95, 96, another A subject came into my life, if you like, and that was that behind the human level of the structure of control is a non-human race, and it took a reptilian form.
And so once a new subject has come into my life, suddenly it's coming at me from all angles.
So how the reptilian thing started is that I was traveling around America talking to next to no bother in those days, and In a period of 15 days I met 12 different people who told me of an experience they had of seeing someone, apparently human, turn into a reptilian form and then go back again.
And, you know, I'm not a kamikaze pilot, you know, in terms of what I say.
You know, I don't say, oh, they've told me this, though it's true.
I have a method where I call the back burner.
I put it on the back burner and I think, well, this is rather extraordinary.
But I'm not dismissing it, but I'm not accepting it either.
I'm going to see where this goes.
And then more and more and more information starts to add to that.
And then you start looking, as I did, I thought, well, if this is happening now, it must have happened.
It's not just started, does it?
No. I started looking back through the different ancient cultures.
And I found this common theme.
And I ended up, quite a long time ago now, in the late 1990s, meeting a man who became an enormous friend of mine in South Africa called Kredo Mutwa.
Kredo Mutwa was the historian of the Zulu nation and what they call a Sanusi, a very high historian.
I'm part Zulu.
Are you? My mother, my great-grandmother was Zulu, and she had children with a white man, obviously.
Yeah, well, Credo was obviously very famous in South Africa.
He came all the way through the apartheid era.
He died in 2020, well up into his 90s, heading towards 100.
And we sat on a media platform we've got called Iconic.
There's a six hour interview I did with him.
Back in South Africa in the late 90s.
It's called The Reptilian Agenda.
And he just talks about the Zulu legend of what he calls the Chittahuri, the children of the serpent, that was manipulating human society.
So I'm picking up now other people that I've been on the inside, in America particularly, I've done a lot of work in America for a long period, who are telling me the same stuff.
So now I have whistleblowers in the modern world, insiders in the military intelligence network complex.
And I've got a Zulu shaman telling me about the history of the Chittahuri.
And then you pick up other...
Yeah, there's lots of sculptures and things like that from way, way back when you can see reptilian beings.
Yeah. And what you get in terms of symbolism going way back is the symbolism of royalty with the snake.
And this is very appropriate because the question I had a long time ago was, so what is royalty?
Why are these people and the aristocracy, why are they so obsessed with bloodline?
Yeah, they always say blue blood.
And it's really blue blood, yeah.
So why? I've always kicked the jeans off.
Yeah, but why? Yeah, why?
This is what I found out over a long period of research.
What we call royalty...
Are these hybrid human reptilian bloodlines?
And the reason they interbreed obsessively...
Is to keep it that way.
Because if they breed outside of that hybrid line with, say, the human population, that hybrid information field starts to get diluted and the whole thing falls apart.
So what happened?
This is an important point.
Is when eventually humanity grew up enough, we haven't yet in Britain, to...
Ditch the royals and say, hold on a minute, why the hell is bloodline dictating our lives?
What this bloodline did, it stayed around in some royal expressions like the Windsors, although that's not going to be around for too long.
I'll tell you that. I've been saying that for quite a few years now.
That's coming to an end. But anyway...
But what it did, overwhelmingly, is it moved out of overt royalty into these dark suit professions of banking, of business.
Rothschilds, all that.
Yeah. The Rockefellers in America and what have you.
And so what you have is this network I call the global cult because that's what it is.
Yeah. That is manipulating global society, all the COVID stuff, it's all been manipulated by them.
Why? To justify imposing its will upon the entire human population.
One of the things that's really got people...
Well, one of the things is what's happened in the COVID era, where a lot of people have started to realize That the world is not like they thought it was.
And if you'd have said to people in even early 2020 that the world was going to be how it's become by 2021 into 2021, they'd have called you crazy.
But it happened. And because it's happened, it's opened a lot of minds up.
Well, hold on a minute. What else is not what we thought it was?
And so what I'm seeing is, I did a video a couple of weeks ago, which went out on an alternative video platform, and it's got well in excess of half a million hits now, going up to 600,000.
And it's about, the title of it is Reptilian Gods and Current Events.
You know, when I did this podcast, it started a couple of years ago, I think in 2018, everybody was sort of laughing about, oh, Jo's doing an alien, she's mad, you know, she's mad.
But now, in that short amount of time, it's more accepted that we're not alone in the universe than it was five years ago.
Yeah, it certainly is. And this is where I'm going with this.
What I'm pointing out in that video, and a lot of people have gone, well, actually, it's true, isn't it?
Is if you look at what's happening in the world, what's happening over COVID, what's happening over the manufactured human-caused climate change, which is manufactured by the same people that manufactured COVID, your Gatens, your Klaus Schwab's at the World Economic Forum.
The agenda is all anti-human.
It's fundamentally anti-human.
So you've got CO2... So what's going to happen to all us humans?
Well, that's the point.
They want rid of most of us and total control of what's left.
That's the whole point. That's what we're seeing around us now.
What does anyone think these jabs are about?
You know, about stopping COVID. I've just looked at a story of Gibraltar, the most, quote, vaccinated.
Actually, they're not vaccines.
Fake vaccinated. mRNA, fake vaccine.
I agree. I'm not having it.
The entire population of Gibraltar have had this fake vaccine.
And now they've just today cancelled Christmas in Gibraltar because what they say is the COVID cases are going through the bloody roof.
They're not actually COVID cases.
That's another thing I could talk about for bloody hours about.
But anyway, the point is you've got carbon dioxide, which is the gas of life.
Without it, there's no natural world.
We're all dead.
And it's being demonized.
And, you know, when you talk to CO2 experts, it's not that we have too much.
We don't have enough.
The optimum amount in the atmosphere for optimum plant growth, food production is 2000 parts per million.
We've now got about 419.
And if it falls anywhere near 150 parts per million, as it was before the industrial era, then we're all dead because the natural world starts to die.
What's happened in the industrial era?
Is the Earth has become greener because of the carbon dioxide.
So your Gateses and people like this...
Are demonizing the gas of life.
They want to get rid of it, not just stop producing it, but actually put technology all around the world to suck it out of the atmosphere.
Now that's anti-human.
Then you've got these jabs which are to change human DNA. This is not a theory.
This is provable fact.
So what do they want to change human DNA for into another form, a much more synthetic form?
You have this 5G, which at 60 gigahertz interacts with the oxygen molecule and stops the body absorbing the same amount of oxygen that it needs to be healthy.
And on and on and on and on.
So when they turn the 5G on, all those people that have had the mRNA are going to get really sick.
That's what I've heard.
Well, you see, this is the other part of the anti-human agenda.
I've been writing for decades about the fact that this non-human force is seeking to change the atmosphere of the Earth, to make it more acceptable to it, and is seeking to change the frequency of the Earth field To make it more compatible with it.
Now what's happening now is that people like Elon Musk, who I wouldn't trust to tell me the time in a clock factory, is putting up thousands, along with other people, but he's the main one, Thousands of low-orbit satellites which are beaming 5G and Wi-Fi, the cloud as they call it, at every inch of the Earth.
That's the idea in the end.
And so it's changing the atmosphere and it's changing the frequency nature of the Earth's field and it's making it less and less compatible with humans.
This is what is happening.
So we're all just going to die out then?
Well, that's the idea, but it doesn't necessarily have to happen.
It depends how many people start to wake up to it and stop cooperating with it because it's obviously through the ages.
This has been going on, getting more and more and more.
It's been building up.
They've planned it for years.
Well, it's been moving forward for thousands of years, actually.
And what it's done now is reach this point.
Because what you have to do if you're going to pull this off, you have to grasp total central control of everything in the world.
And that's what we're close to now.
You can see it. They don't call it the 1% for nothing.
The 1% and the 99%, well, the 1%, or actually it's less, are actually dictating the lives of the 99%.
When you realize that that 1% ultimately is not human, you start to grasp what the hell is going on.
And so what these reptilians do, and this is another part of if you don't understand reality, you can't grasp what's going on.
If I said to most people, when you look through your eyes, can you see everything in the space that you're looking at?
They say, yeah, of course I can, mate.
But you're not. The electromagnetic spectrum, which is basically our reality, is according to...
Mainstream science.
0.005% of what exists in the universe.
Can you imagine what we could see?
Exactly. And visible light, which is the only band of frequency that we can see as a visible reality, is a smear Of the 0.005%.
So basically, humans are blind.
And what, in terms of, as you say, what it is possible to see compared with what the human body will decode us and allow us to see.
Now, this reptilian and other non-human groups operate just outside the frequency band that I'm talking about.
And so, overwhelmingly, the vast majority of the time, they can't be seen.
And this explains the phenomena in UFOs and extraterrestrials, that people would say, oh, come on, mate, that's ridiculous, that's impossible.
And what I mean is, those people that say, look...
This ship just appeared, right?
It just came out of nowhere and then it went into nowhere.
And other people will say, look, look, this ET, this reptilian figure, this grey, it just appeared at the end of the bed, right?
And then it disappeared.
I've heard those stories.
Yeah, well, see...
Your people that think they're streetwise but actually know nothing that the BBC hasn't told them, and what they were told at school, which was to keep them in ignorance, not to enlighten them, they say that's impossible, but it's not.
I've just explained why it's possible.
What's happening is we're seeing a tiny band of frequency, visible light, When something enters visible light, it just appears out of nowhere.
But it hasn't. What it's done is enter your visible capability, and thus to your visible capability, it's appeared out of nowhere.
And when it leaves visible light, it appears to disappear.
But it hasn't. It's the same with entities and stuff.
So the manipulation, ultimately...
It's not even this global cult that is manifesting as people like Gates and Fauci and all these other people, Klaus Schwab and the Rothschilds and Rockefellers.
It's actually being driven and orchestrated from outside of human reality.
This cult is the representation of this non-human force within human reality.
So our government...
Of the non-human force.
So our governments are sitting down with these reptilians and they are saying, this is what's happening.
No. No?
No, it doesn't work like that.
This global cult works like this.
It operates like a gigantic spider's web around the world.
And it has all these different strands in the web are secret societies and semi-secret groups.
And then eventually they are your Facebooks and your Twitters and your Googles and your banking system and your mainstream media and your governments, et cetera, and your government agencies.
But the vast overwhelming majority of people in that world of the scene Have no idea where the ultimate driver of the policy is coming from.
So you have this web and it has an interlocking central mission control, if you like.
Which I call the spider.
And ultimately, that spider is not human and it goes out of our reality.
But within our reality, hidden from us, most of it, you have the strands immediately around the spider in the web.
And they're the most exclusive secret societies that they'll know the hell what's going on.
And then you come out from that, and now you're still in the hidden, but you're now meeting the secret societies that we know about, the Freemasons, the inner core, that is, the Knights of Malta, the inner core of the Jesuit order, Opus Dei, the Knights Templar, and so on.
Freemasons! Oh, big time, yeah.
But... Freemasonry is massively compartmentalised as this whole web is.
So the vast majority of Freemasons are clueless about what's actually happening.
They're just a way of covering it up without knowing they're covering it up.
So you come out from this spider in the web and eventually you come into the world of the scene and you have your governments and your government agencies and your Silicon Valley and your media and your banking and stuff and your World Health Organisation.
Now, to the public, all these organizations are in and of themselves.
They're not connected. They're operating independently.
But if you go down to the level of the web, the web is coordinating between them.
Great example. When the World Health Organization came out with the ludicrous, ludicrous, a child could take it apart narrative about, quote, COVID, Silicon Valley, your Facebooks and your Twitters and your YouTubes owned by Google, They said, we're going to censor anyone that questions and challenges the World Health Organization narrative.
Now, to the observer who doesn't know what's going on, it would be, you're going to do what?
What are you going to do that for? They know everything.
Right? But when you know that your Facebooks are not only controlled by this web, this cult, they were created by them.
So was Google. It's all in my books.
But so was the World Health Organization.
The World Health Organization was created in 1948 by the Rockefeller family, the same Rockefeller family through J.D. Rockefeller, the oil tycoon, that actually founded what we call Big Pharma, the pharmaceutical cartel.
I saw something on them.
So now, from the web point of view, you can see, you see that the narrative out of the web cult World Health Organization is defended from exposure by the Silicon Valley cult web platforms.
And there's something else to understand, which makes lots of pennies drop about this whole COVID thing.
This web controls the National Health Service at management level.
It controls the medical pyramids in each country.
I mean, Chris Whitty in this country, for instance.
It controls the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in America, the CDC. It controls the Food and Drug Administration in America.
And these are the organization.
It controls the MHRA, so-called drug regulator in Britain, which is funded by Gates.
And so what you have is the cult-owned, ultimately non-human-owned, big pharma cartel, your Pfizer and your Johnson& Johnson and your Moderna.
They ask permission to use these fake vaccines, which are creating death and health destruction at a monumental level worldwide.
It's all covered up. But they are asking permission from these regulators, like the CDC and the MHRA, for permission to use these fake vaccines on lower and lower, smaller and smaller age groups and children.
Yeah. And you know they're going to get it!
And if there's any pushback, like there was for 12 to 15-year-olds in Britain by the government vaccine advising committee, who said, no, it shouldn't be given to healthy 12 to 15-year-olds, in comes Christopher Whitty and overrides it on the basis of, oh, yeah, well, it would be better for their education.
Oh, shut up!
You're doing it because you're being told to do it.
Yeah, without a doubt.
So what's happening...
These fake vaccine companies, owned by the web, owned by the cult, are going to the CDC and the FDA and the MHRA, owned by the web, owned by the cult, to ask permission to use the fake vaccines, which is part of the agenda for humanity and this anti-human agenda.
So you know they're going to get permission.
Because the same web is controlling both sides.
And this is happening all over human society.
What's going to happen to somebody like me who refuses to have the vaccine?
Well, it's the same as what's going to happen to someone like me.
Have the vaccine.
Have the vaccine.
Have the fake vaccine. I've not even worn a bloody mask since all this started.
Nor have I. Nor have I. I refuse to wear a mask.
I refuse any of this crap.
And I had COVID last year.
I was ill, but not that bad.
Well, what's COVID? It's flu!
Yeah, somebody came to me to fix my printer yesterday, and he had a mask on.
Anyway, he said, well, my wife's had COVID. I said, how do you know she's had COVID? He said, well, she tested positive with a lateral flow test.
Hold on a second. The lateral flow test is so bloody useless!
It has to be confirmed by a PCR test for it to be accepted.
It's so useless. Now let's look at the PCR test.
PCR test is where all the cases are coming from.
If you test positive for COVID with a PCR test, you are said to be a case of COVID. And if you die of any other cause within 28 days of that...
It's going to be COVID. You're going to have COVID on your death certificate, even though it's gunshot wounds or...
It's insane. The PCR test is not testing for the virus.
How do I know that? Because the creator of it, Kerry Law...
Yes, didn't he die as well?
Just before this started.
Yeah, it's a bit suspicious.
He said... The PCR test cannot tell you if you're sick.
It cannot pick up infectious viruses.
And yet, every case of COVID... Has been, by the PCR test or the lateral flow test confirmed by the PCR test, a test not testing for the virus.
And it's such a scam.
It's unbelievable. Do you know that there's not a single scientific paper anywhere on planet Earth, absolutely provable to that, That has shown that this virus exists, SARS-CoV-2.
That's insane, isn't it?
Not one. And we've had Freedom of Information Act requests going out all over the world to health organizations.
Nobody can prove it.
No one can prove it. Why?
Because it's a scam. So what is going to happen to people like us without a vaccine?
Yeah, it was a scam just to justify the fake vaccine because they want to get this stuff inside us.
Well, what they're going to try to do, what they are doing increasingly around the world, I mean, look at Austria now, is they've locked down the non-fake vaccinated people with a mind of their own.
And basically they're confined to their homes apart from one or two things they're allowed to do.
And the point being, you see, because of this web, Joe, as you pointed out earlier, this whole thing is globally coordinated.
And so if you look at your France's with their vaccine passports and you look at your Italy's, you know, you can't bloody work unless you've had the fake vaccine.
Fascism, total fascism.
And Austria was going on now and other countries.
America with the buffoon of Biden.
Yeah, Biden, the weird, weird, half-dead president.
Very, very strange entity.
So, because it's globally coordinated...
You know that that's meant to happen everywhere.
Now, if you remember, back in September, this appalling piece of work, actually, a chairman of an elite secret society in the web called Leserkel, that's been in my book since the 1990s, a guy called Zahawi, who was vaccine minister all the way through this, and now he's become education minister as they go.
Oh, the black guy.
He's Iraqi, yeah.
Yeah. He announced in the House of Commons, so it was an official thing, that at the end of September, we're going to have vaccine passports.
Two days later, Javid, the health secretary, said, no, we're not.
We've decided not to.
Now, that decision was not made because they wanted to make it.
It was made because they made the call We don't think we're going to get away with this at the moment, right?
And this is why they've said to health service workers, you must have the vaccine with this period of going through to April.
Because that makes absolutely no sense.
Then why are you leaving it to April for National Health Service workers to do this?
Between now and then is the whole winter period when...
It's going to be bad. The reason they've done it...
Because they don't think they can get away with it now.
And where I'm going with this is the more people refuse to cooperate with these psychopaths and morons, that's basically the combination in government and the health management all over the world, world actually, then the less they're going to get away
with. I mean there's 60 odd million people in Britain. The number of people that are
driving this, it's basically a handful at the core.
We have to not.
Globally, you would get the core of the core of this cult in a single room.
You really would. So it's in our power to stop this.
But A, we've got to stop cooperating with it.
B, we've got to get informed so we can see the game.
And C, we've got to grow a pair and a backbone and say we're not freaking having it.
Well, I'm not having it.
Well, let's give you an example.
At this time in Austria, they have locked down two million people because they won't have the fake vaccine.
What if those two million people just walked out of their homes now?
What are you going to do? Is that being forcible?
They can't lock them all up in jail.
This is what I've been trying to get across since this nonsense started, where the real power is.
And that's an important point.
The worst nightmare of these people is that this is why they pulled back on the vaccine passports in England.
This is why they pushed the...
National Health Service vaccine mandate, fake vaccine mandate so far forward.
Their worst nightmare is that they say this is what's going to happen and the people say no.
At that point it will dawn on a great numbers of people Where the real power is.
Oh yeah, I remember that.
And because it affected the middle class in Britain, different to the American middle class, and the working class in Britain, that divide where the working class say about something, well, it's affecting the middle class, none of my business, or it's affecting the working class, none of my business, that divide was broken.
And it affected both.
And so the middle class and the working class came out and they said, We're not paying the bloody tax.
And what happened, not only did they have to drop the tax, but it was the end of Margaret Thatcher.
It was the end of the idea that she was the impregnable Iron Lady because the public had shown that she wasn't.
And that's what we need to do now, Jo.
We need to remember.
We need to remember our history of...
You know, this has happened before.
It's not as big as this, as global as this.
But we need to remember what's happened before.
And here we are doing the same kind of rubbish, but at a bigger, huge scale.
It's crazy. We're living in a mad time.
Look through history. Actually, the whole period of this reptilian infiltration.
And you'll see the same dynamic where the few control the many.
Everywhere. It doesn't matter the culture.
It doesn't matter the background. It doesn't matter the period of history.
The few control the many. Why?
Because the many give their power to the few.
And when the penny drops, the power of the few is only the power we give to them in the form of acquiescence.
Then we can take our world back.
Not just from...
It's when we stop the fear.
And people stop being afraid.
And that's when we take our power back, because that's what they want us to be living in fear.
And I think maybe that's why they don't talk about UFOs and aliens and other beings.
They want us to be living in a...
In a box and not thinking outside of the box, because that way they have control over us.
Right. Well, that's a very interesting point, which I've made in my last book, just come out, Perceptions of a Renegade Mind.
So... Look at the common themes.
First of all, I did an enormous amount of research from 1996, right across the millennium, right to present time, really, into mind control, like MKUltra in America, that horrific mind control project, which is still going under other names, where they were basically just rewiring the psyche and the minds of people, and they were, you know, Manchurian candidates, the whole bloody thing.
And I've talked to enormous numbers of people that were in MKUltra that survived and great numbers didn't.
And I've learned the techniques that were used on them.
Then I've watched those same techniques used on the population in the COVID era.
And it's, first of all, isolation.
When they're trying to break someone's mind, they isolate.
When they're trying to break someone's spirit, they isolate them.
Because we are natural kind of social beings.
Humans are social beings. I like being on my own.
Well, I do.
I do. We're probably from another planet, but...
I do. I've lived on my own since 2006.
I bloody love it. But the point being, it's isolation.
And then you look at social distancing, house arrest, which is what lockdown is.
It's isolation.
And on the bigger, bigger picture, as I said in the book, they want humanity to think we're alone.
Because you imagine...
When advanced people from other realities, other worlds, if they were interacting with us, then the human mind would go, bang!
Because they'd see the possibilities and the potentials and the magnificence.
You see, I love that.
I love the possibilities of what's out there and what's going on.
I love that.
And I know that they're out there.
Yeah, the point is they want you.
We're all alone. We're alone.
It's only us in a dead universe.
I mean, it's like if you take the Mainstream scientific projection of the size of planet Earth compared with the universe, then planet Earth is the equivalent of a billionth of a pinhead I do think there's other life out there.
I feel it's in me water, you know.
But imagine the difference between isolated, we're all alone.
Do you think there's any other life other than humans on this billions of a pinhead to interacting with them, becoming aware of them, being aware of the vastness of interconnectedness?
That's what they don't want.
They want you to come. Yeah, because it's easy to control then.
Yeah, exactly. Yeah.
Tell me about the Anunnaki and how they are connected to the reptilians.
The Anunnaki, yeah.
This is an interesting thing.
Whether you take it to be directly reptilian or whether you don't, there is a very clear common theme.
In the ancient world.
It doesn't matter again what the culture is.
I've talked to Kreda Mutwa in the Zulu arena.
I've talked to Native Americans.
I've talked to Aboriginals in Western Australia.
I've talked to all these different people.
They all have the same common theme.
And that is of a non-human force manipulating human society from the hidden.
And, you know, people can debate about what form it takes.
Massively reptilian, I would say, but not necessarily always.
But it's manipulated from the hidden.
Then you go into the religions.
Christianity. Okay, I'm not a religious bloke, that's all.
But I look at information.
So the Christian religion talks about Satan, the devil, and it talks about the demons.
Then you go to the Gnostics, who are not straight Christian believers.
And there was a fantastic treasure trove That was found in an earthen jar in Nagamadi, 75 miles north of Luxor in Egypt in 1945, which was Gnostic writings in the period of around 400 AD. But the writings went back in the direction of ancient Greece.
And a fifth of these writings were describing something they called the Archons.
They talked about an entity they called Yaldabaoth, which is equivalent to the Christian Satan.
And the Archons, which is a Greek word meaning rulers, which is equivalent to the Christian demons.
And then you go to the Islamic belief system.
They talk about the djinn manipulating from the hidden.
I was in a taxi going from New York airport to the city at one time when I was I'm researching the whole Gnostic archon thing.
I've got books about it up there.
And we got chatting.
I got chatting with him. He was a Muslim taxi driver.
And he said, what do you do? I said, well, you know, I'm doing this.
He said, what are you researching at the moment?
And I started talking about the archons and the Gnostics and stuff.
But that's the djinn. That's just like the djinn.
Yes. See, what happens is you go into these different cultures and obviously they're different cultures.
They have different names.
But they're the same.
And the anthropologists go in and all these people and they say, oh, that's your God and that's your belief and that's your God and that's your belief.
And you go, hold on a minute. Hold on a minute.
Hold on. Deep breath.
Look at the common themes they're all describing.
Forget the names. Yeah, they're all the same.
And they're describing basically the same thing.
It's a very inverted, distorted negative force that's seeking to impose its will on humanity.
And we don't have... See, if it was easy...
They would have taken over a long time ago if it was easy.
So it can't be that easy?
What they've had to do is manipulate humans to enslave ourselves.
Because they can't do it directly.
That's why they had to set up this cult in human society to represent its interests and push human society in that direction.
So if you look at the COVID era, which is just a magnificent example of what I'm talking about, none of it could have happened without humanity policing itself.
It couldn't have happened without people who, like in law enforcement and all these other people, these luminous jackets that seem to breed in the night.
None of it would have been possible without them.
None of it would have been possible without the media, the overwhelming majority of which will be human.
The key players and the controllers won't be, but most of them will be human.
And they've been lying through the COVID era, lying on an unbelievable scale, breathtaking.
But how come...
To advance the networks that I'm talking about.
So the whole thing is humanity policing and enslaving itself.
Yeah, how come then there's people like myself and you who can see it and other people can't?
Oh, I could talk for hours about that.
I want to know, my best friend lives in New York.
She is absolutely, she only sees it one way.
She says she can't see me.
I haven't had the vaccine.
How come she's like that and we've known each other nearly all our lives and yet I can see what's happening and she can't.
Perception, which means consciousness.
Everything is conscious.
Everyone is conscious, though I look around and sometimes I think barely, but everyone is conscious.
The question is, how bloody conscious?
And what I've been writing in the books over these decades is that the foundation of this non-human global cult technique modus operandi Is to isolate five-sense awareness, what I'll call body-mind, five-sense body-mind, from expanded levels of consciousness.
So the idea...
Take this as an analogy.
I think it works.
I'm sitting in front of a computer, right?
So the computer is directly interacting with the internet, i.e.
it's symbolic of the five senses, directly interacting with this reality.
And I'm sitting here, symbolic of expanded levels of consciousness, and I'm interacting with the computer and I'm guiding the computer.
And it's one thing.
The five senses are an expression of a greater consciousness.
Now what happens when the computer gets a virus?
What they call a computer virus.
Now suddenly the operator is banging the keyboard and banging the mouse and nothing's happening because something's taken over the operating system.
It's now being directed by something else because the mission control, if you like, expanded levels of consciousness is no longer in the game.
Now, this disconnection is what the whole foundation is all about.
And the reason they want to connect artificial intelligence to the human brain, they're openly talking about it now, right?
Is because they want to take that disconnection to a technological level, right?
So if you look at the...
The five senses. What do they do?
They decode reality in a specific way where everything seems apart from everything else.
So I'm sitting in a room here, and like everyone else, my visual frequency decoding system, five senses, picks up those frequencies that we call form.
But in between the form, there appears to be empty space.
But there's not.
It's energy, consciousness, information that we can tap into.
This is well known if you go deep enough into it.
But the point is that it decodes everything as apart from everything else.
But as you expand your awareness, not out of the five senses, and you tap into other levels of you, of you, consciousness, you're reaching those levels that see the panorama.
They don't just see dots.
They see patterns.
They see connections.
You cannot understand the world without going to this level.
You can't because the five senses will keep telling you everything's apart from everything else.
They'll keep telling you that the World Health Organization and Facebook are not connected when they fundamentally are.
This level can see that.
So if you are in a perceptually more expanded state, not that you're better than anyone else, but anyone can do it.
It's a choice. Then you're going to see the world in a certain way.
You're going to see patterns and pictures and connections.
Someone who isn't.
And the idea of this control system is to make sure people aren't That's going to be someone who ain't going to see it.
And it's literally not going to be able to compute what you're saying.
Yeah, absolutely.
I agree with that. Yeah.
And this decision, this is very, very important from what's happening now in a wider picture.
This decision to have the fake vaccine or not to Is a extraordinary expression of your state of consciousness, your state of perception.
Because the difference, funnily enough, between someone who has it and someone who doesn't have it, is where their conclusions are reached.
Those who have it...
Their conclusions are reached at the start of the process.
So the government and the, you know, people like Chris Whitty, a disgusting piece of work, in America, says, the vaccines are safe and they'll stop you getting COVID until you've had it and then we'll tell you it won't, right? Okay. And so the conclusion...
At that point is, I'm going to have the jab because they'll say it's safe and it'll stop me getting COVID. And save your granny.
Yeah, that's where the conclusion is right at the start.
And what happens then is any information that appears that challenges that conclusion is immediately dismissed, or if you're Facebook and Twitter and YouTube, censored.
The difference with people who are in a more expanded state of awareness is the conclusion doesn't come at the start of the process.
It comes at the end. So they look at information.
They say, yeah, I can see what you're telling me, government.
I can see what you're telling me, witty.
But what I'm going to do is I'm going to look at other sources of information and see if what you're telling me adds up.
And when they do, they go, oh, my God, I'm not having that.
And they reach that conclusion at the end of the process that I'm not having it.
And that's the massive difference in psyche between the two.
And this is another point.
They do not want people, for obvious reasons, who think for themselves, question the narrative of anything, and refuse to cooperate.
And they know that by not having the jab...
Those are the people that are like that.
So they want to rid them from the American military.
That's why they're saying you don't have the jab.
You're fired from the military.
They want to rid them from the National Health Service.
That's why they're saying you don't have the jab.
You're out. They want to rid them from the whole of society and all the institutions because this not having the jab is saying I'm awakening.
I'm not having it.
I can see through. Those people have to be destroyed.
And that's why they're doing it.
It's nothing to do with health.
Of course, it's not. There's nothing to do the hell.
I need to jump in here.
So we've done an hour now.
Oh, have we? That went fast!
Yeah. Just quickly, it would be good to ask David...
Given all the abuse and ridicule he's endured over the years, has he ever feared for his safety?
Because obviously he's a powerful, powerful people who don't want this information.
How is it that, you know, do you feel for your safety or have you ever been threatened?
That kind of thing. He lives in a bunker.
And then we'll wrap it up there.
Oh God, I've got so many things I wanted to ask you.
We'll have to do it again, Jo. Yeah, let's do it again.
All right. In answer to the question, I... Just let Joe answer the question.
I'll ask you the question.
Okay, so David, with all the things that you say and believe in, do you ever worry for your safety?
No. No.
You know one of the greatest control systems, perhaps the greatest, is fear of death, right?
Which is the most extreme version of fear of the unknown.
And you mentioned it, you know, one or two times in this chat about fear and they want us to be in fear.
Yes, they do. And the big thing they want us to fear more than anything else is death.
But aren't we just passing through?
We are passing through, yeah, but most people don't know that.
And because of the unknown and the fear of the unknown and death being an extreme version of the fear of the unknown, people fear death.
Now, once you fear death, lots of things happen.
First of all, you are making a judgment on whether you will do what you know to be right When the possibility is that you might leave the world earlier than you otherwise would.
So immediately, the fear of death is...
Oh, well, I better not say that then.
The fear of death is where the power of doctors comes from, the power of psychopaths like Witte.
Because... Because they're making people fear.
Yeah. Once you fear death, you want to push that moment on as far as you can.
So you're going to give power to those you think, because you're told that, are going to...
And I know you've done a lot of stuff with nutrition and stuff, which is looking after yourself.
But the point being that those that just look to doctors, the power of doctors comes from the fear of death.
Ultimately, it does.
Yeah. Oh, save me, Doctor.
I'll do whatever you say, Doctor.
I'll take whatever you like, Doctor.
Doctor, cure me.
I'll have me jab, Doctor.
Yeah. Jab, Doctor, because I'm frightened of dying because Witty told me I would.
And funnily enough, I've not had a sniffle in the whole of this or anything.
And I've been hugging people in their thousands.
Anyway. Yeah, you have, haven't you?
You've been to all the protests.
Yeah, I mean, it's crazy.
So, because I'm not frightened to death, because I know it's just...
What is death?
It's the consciousness, our consciousness, our awareness, the true I, the eternal I, leaving the vehicle that's focused its attention within this tiny band of frequency called the human world, and moving out into an expanded state of awareness.
I'm freaking terrified, Joe.
So whatever they try to intimidate me with, they can't, because when you don't have the fear of death, you don't
have anything to worry about.
Exactly. And plus the fact that, you know, we shouldn't fall for the idea that this culture is all powerful.
It's not. It's actually a village idiot, otherwise it won't be doing what it's doing.
The way that it's created its control over humanity is by putting humanity in a smaller box than it's in.
It's like this cult is the equivalent of, in the kingdom of the blind, the one-eyed man is king.
So this cult is the one-eyed man, quite appropriate, given the all-seeing eye as its symbol.
And what it's done to create its omnipotence or its illusory power, it's made humans blind.
And when humans wake up to the true power and the true potential that we have to dictate our own reality, I explain how that's possible.
It's very simple. Then the one-eyed man, the naked emperor, becomes naked.
And what people like me are doing is saying, look, look, look, look, look, the emperor's got no freaking clothes on, right?
I mean, have you seen Bill Gates?
Is there life on Bill Gates?
I see no evidence.
Why am I going to be frightened of people like that and even other people?
I'm going to be what I know to be right.
Bill Gates.
I mean, I've been going on about Bill Gates for over a year and nobody believes.
Well, I have got people that don't like Bill Gates, but I've been going on about him for so long.
And people, like my friend in America, Joe, Bill Gates is doing a lot of good for people all around the world.
I said, Joe, really? You are out of your mind.
Bill Gates is a psychopath.
Bill Gates is a super psychopath.
Look in his eyes, there is no one home.
Well, I thought he might have been a reptilian.
Well, I mean, geez, that's almost a given, given the position that he's in.
And Klaus Schwab, look in his eyes.
There's no one home. Look at Anthony Fauci.
Look at Christopher Whitty.
Look at his eyes. There's no one home.
Look at all of them. Look at the eyes of Daniel Andrews, this psychopathic fascist.
Oh, Australian guy.
Look in his eyes.
There's no one home. These people are not freaking human.
They're not. They're really not.
And once we realise that, then suddenly the...
The American military on the Pandora moon are revealed to be not the Navi.
And then they can get sorted.
It's opening your mind to the actual scale.
Somebody once said, when I was talking about out there and space and beings and everything, and he said, the possibilities out there are endless.
So they're endless possibilities.
We live in an infinite reality, an infinite consciousness.
We are all expressions of it.
That is actually all possibility and all potential waiting to manifest.
And what we manifest out of that potential and possibility is dictated by our perceptions.
See, if you have a perception that your little me...
Then that frequency you're generating, it's all thought and all emotion generates frequency.
That perceptual frequency band that is generated by I'm little me, I've got no power, will interact with possibility and probability, the sea of quantum potential and possibility all around us, which we're interacting with. It will interact with it on a band that's narrow and limited to reflect the state of perception.
And so what that creates is a feedback loop between perception and potential and possibility that will deliver you a life experience in here, decoded, that will...
Be a self-fulfilling prophecy for your little me self-identity.
When you go, hold on a minute.
No, no. I'm not my human labels.
They're just an experience.
I'm not my race.
I'm not my sexuality.
I'm not my culture.
I'm not any of those things. I am the consciousness that's having that experience.
And so I am expanded awareness.
I am ultimately infinite awareness, having a human experience.
Now suddenly that expansion of self-identity...
And that energy projects.
...of the scale...
And the breadth and depth and frequency of the field of possibility and probability that you're actually accessing.
And what a person like that does is have an incredibly adventurous life, an amazing life.
Lots of things happen. This is what happens when you start to awaken.
What is awakening? What is awakening?
It's awakening from five sense focus to a more expanded level of focus.
And so as you do that, you are interacting with possibility and probability in a much more expanded way.
And what happens? It happens to me.
It happens to everybody that starts to awaken.
They suddenly notice The synchronicity and the coincidences and the amazing bits of luck just when you need them that start to happen that weren't happening before.
Well, when you are connecting in and interacting with a greater, greater swathe of possibility and probability, the possibilities and probabilities that you can then manifest in your experience obviously expand at the same rate.
Yeah. You know, when I look at my life since 1991, deep before, from the moment I was born, this has been happening, I didn't realize until I kind of consciously woke up.
It's just this amazing synchronicity that's put this information in front of me and continues to do so.
And the thing is, you know, this is not me sitting cross-legged on a mountain saying I'm the Buddha.
Everybody can do this.
I think so too.
This is our natural state.
It's how we should be.
But if you fall for the five cents Alcatraz, then you can't access that and therefore you can't manifest that.
This has got to go.
This is just the point that we interact with a tiny band of frequency called the human world.
It is an infinitesimal smear of the vastness of who we really are.
As a kid, I knew that I wasn't going to stay in Benfleet and Essex.
And I was going to get out there and have an adventure in my life.
And that's exactly what I did.
That's why you can see the current events and other people can't.
Yeah. So, what is, on the last word then, so what is the solution?
What's the solution?
What do you think we should all do to make this world a better place?
Well, first of all, and I could talk for hours about this too, you come from the heart.
The heart, this heart vortex in the centre of the chest, not the physical heart, though they are connected, but the heart vortex in the centre of the chest.
This is what really connects you with that.
And this has no fear.
This has fear.
This has fear. This has no fear.
And this will always do what it knows to be right.
See, one of the things about the heart And I can tell you this from experience, you don't think about consequences.
You don't think, you don't go through, this does, and this does, goes through this process.
Okay, if I do this, if I say that, what will be the consequences?
So what it's actually saying is, if I do what I know to be right, and I say what I know to be right, What are the consequences?
The heart will never do that.
The heart will say, hold on a minute.
Let's go for it!
To consider consequences is to consider not doing what you know to be right.
I will never do that. So you just do and you say what you know to be right.
And as you can see from my life, you can get into some scrapes and you can get historic levels of ridicule and abuse.
But if you keep going and you keep going, you get vindicated.
Yeah. Well, that's it.
So, in other words, love everybody.
Yeah, but love has this connotation in many people that it's weak.
Love is the ultimate power.
Love will never do what it doesn't know to be right.
And it will never, never bow and submit.
Never bow and submit to tyranny.
Never will. Never will.
And the point is, there are 8 billion people nearly now getting on that way, being manipulated by ultimately, ultimately, if you go to the core of the core, people you could get in a single room.
I think I see a way out of this.
And this is why they have to divide in rulers.
Because when we unify, when we become unified and we see...
They've not got a chance. It's over.
I'll tell you what is happening finally, or you will have noticed this too, is that what is increasingly happening is people who've had the jabs so far, like two jabs, for instance, are now going, hold on a minute.
You told us two jabs and back to normal.
Now you're saying I have to have a third?
A booster. In Israel, it's a fourth.
If they're talking about a fourth in America, what's going on?
And it's starting to dawn on people they've been had.
And those jabbed, two jabbed people, when the fourth one comes in, it will be a lot of the three jabbed people are going, hold on.
I'm not going to do it again.
I'm not going to do it again. And so the numbers are going to increase, but we need this.
When this is open, the backbone stiffens.
When this is open, you grow a pair.
And that's what we need.
Non-cooperation with our own enslavement.
Two million people in Austria, get off your arses, get out the door, in the bloody street, and you'll see where the power lies.
And it's not with the government.
David, it was so wonderful to talk to you.
I think virus pandemic started in China.
Oxygen, medical supplies, and physical stuff have continued.
One of the five vaccines and vision.
Stage one, you create a problem.
It could be a manufactured virus.
You want a reaction, and you want them to either say, do something, or you want them to accept what the authorities suggest must be done.
So one of the agendas is to massively cull the population.
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