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July 14, 2021 - David Icke
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David Icke Talks At The Awakening 3 - World Truth Summit
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♪♪♪ As long as I am confident that I can justify what I'm
saying, I will say it.
It doesn't matter what it is.
I'm not interested in Protecting a belief system.
I'm interested in knowing what's going on.
And I'll go where the information takes me.
And if that takes me into some apparently crazy areas, which are not crazy at all, they just seem so to the programmed mind.
Then I'll go there.
And if people laugh and people hurl abuse at you, well, that's fair enough, because I'm not having a relationship with you.
You know, what you think of me is none of my business.
You know what I mean? Think what you like.
It doesn't matter to me.
What matters to me is, is what I'm saying true or not?
And what that does is it takes you out of the whole concept of having your life dictated to by other people's perceptions.
This is really important.
If you don't live your own unique personal truth and you start molding yourself to fit in with how other people think you should be, then what you're doing is you're conceding that very foundation Of not only what it is to be human, but what it is to be conscious now.
Welcome back, welcome back everybody.
I have been looking forward to this event since we started planning it.
This is the third Awakening World Truth Summit and the first two, as many of you know, I had the opportunity and the honour of interviewing One of my favorite people in the world.
He's... I don't even know what to say.
If you've been watching some of our, like between some of the shows, we have these commercials that we run, and one of them just speaks to who this man is, what he has gone through in the fight for humanity, how he continues to fight.
And today, we're going to, once again, we're going to pick his brain.
I'm going to say this right now.
If you are not at a certain level of thinking, then, I don't know, I would say attempt to go through this, but this is for those deeper minds.
These are for those people who really want to think outside of what this world shows us.
That life is. And this is something that my guest coming up right now has been doing and I'm so excited.
I'm just gonna get into it. I'm very excited to have with us all the way from the UK, Mr.
David Icke. Hi!
Thank you very much.
It's always a joy to talk to you.
And I just want to say before we start that Grant and you guys are doing the most amazing job getting this information circulating.
I mean, you know, when I first came across your work, new work, you were starting to go for it.
But my God, you're really going for it now.
If the media had the same guts and the same commitment to truth that you guys have, then we live in a very different world.
Congratulations. It's magnificent what you're doing.
Thank you very much.
You know what? And we're going to get into that because...
Thank you.
And every time I do speak with you, I find, I try to find a way to speak on things that we don't talk about all the
time.
Because you do so many interviews, right?
And you're always saying something, but I always want to get a different side from you.
So one of the things I definitely want to speak to you today, besides all the other nonsense that's happening in
this world, is just what it's taken for you to survive and last this
long.
I'll be honest, Dave, like, I'm tired.
I'm tired sometimes.
I feel like I'm at this wall where I can't go any further.
And I'm thinking, how did David do this?
How did he do this for 35 years?
Getting ridiculed, being made fun of, having people tell you that you're crazy, you don't know what you're talking about, you're a conspiracy theorist.
And you kept going and it's only now, this long after, that you've been vindicated.
We're going to talk about that. We're going to wait a little bit later because I do want to speak to some of the other freedom fighters.
But let's just talk about what's happening in your home.
Okay? I heard that they're prolonging the reopening in the UK. Can you talk to us a little bit about what's happening over there?
Yeah, you know, there was a phrase that I use on the introduction video, know the outcome and you'll see the journey.
This is so important.
If you don't know the planned outcome, then the world can be bewildering.
It can be apparently random.
Where everything's just happening, but there seems no sense to it, no pattern to it.
But when you know what the planned outcome is, then suddenly the world makes complete sense.
Let's look at a few headlines of the outcome.
I've been writing for decades and decades and decades now about something that I eventually called, when the movies came out, the Hunger Games Society.
And that is a society in which a tiny few people, what you might call a 1%, actually it's less than 1%, Dictate to the entire human population through a world government and world institutions, including a world army, to impose the will of the world institutions.
And this structure of the Hunger Games Society is, you can see it as a pyramid.
And you've got the tiny few at the top.
I mean, it is ridiculously few people in full knowledge of what they're doing.
At the bottom are the entirety, virtually, of humanity.
And in the middle is not just a police state, but a police-military state.
The idea is to fuse the two eventually.
And that is imposing the will of the 1% upon the population and preventing the population from rebelling against the 1%, well, at least in theory.
So then you ask the question, okay, that's the outcome.
On this level alone, there are many other outcomes involved.
So how do you create a situation of total dependency by the population on the few?
How do you do that? Well, crucial to it is to delete the independent income of the population.
The independent businesses, the independent employment with those businesses, so that they cannot operate without being dependent on you.
What you want is a situation where everyone is dependent on the state for sheer survival, so that you can pay them a pittance, long in my books way back, called the guaranteed income.
But you only get it if you do what you're told.
And if you don't want to do that, well, you don't get it.
And so, where else are we going to put food on the table?
There's no employment for the mass of the population.
So, I have a word to describe how they do it, and it is lockdown.
The introduction of lockdown of the population Was not, of course, anything to do with health.
We can get deeper into that as we go along, I'm sure.
Nothing to do with health.
Was to do with closing down independent businesses so that they could not survive.
A lot went in the first period of lockdown, a lot went in the second, and in this country it's gone on and on and on.
When they tell you, this is how you can see these things crystal clear, when they tell you, as the British government did in the early part of this year, that on June the 21st they were going to get rid of all the restrictions and we were going back to normal, you knew if you've been following this that that was never going to happen.
It was never going to happen because they're still independent businesses hanging on for dear life and independent employment.
And what they've been doing in this country and other countries too is paying people not to work.
In this country they're called furlough payments where they give people a percentage of their income.
But in businesses that have been told they can't work and be open because of the virus.
Now, when they do that, I mean, the thing to understand is we're not dealing with benevolent institutions.
We're dealing with psychopath-controlled institutions.
And therefore, if they're doing something, it's not for the public interest and it's not for your interest.
It has another motivation.
And you have to be persuaded that it is being done in your interest.
So we're locking down to protect the health of the population that we're actually destroying.
So, the idea with the furlough payments is to buy time.
Buy time to keep the people docile and not rebelling in great numbers because you want to keep this going for as long as you can so that these businesses are destroyed.
And so I've heard people who are on the furlough payments saying, oh, I like lockdown.
I do. It's good.
I paid for doing nothing.
Well, the day is going to come where you won't.
And of course, these furlough payments are made on the assumption, on the understanding that you have a job with a company that is currently told it can't operate.
But that's only theoretical.
And more and more people are finding out, of course, that actually you're not employed because there's no work.
There's no job. There's no company anymore.
And so people are being, it's like a fishing line going out and then pulling it in.
And it's going to be pulled in when they start getting rid of these payments and people realize that there's no employment to go back to.
Because the real unemployment figures are absolutely colossal.
It's all being hidden by the stuff I'm talking about.
It was the most predictable statement, probably in British history, when they said, oh, well, we've got an Indian variant.
Oh, really? What do you mean a variant of the virus that doesn't exist?
That one, the one you've never isolated that doesn't exist.
So suddenly they say, oh, no, we can't do that.
And they...
Play it forward, they say, to July the 19th.
Now, what's happening, not only in this country, but many other countries, is that in America, it's a different system because you've got this federal system and some states have pushed back on this.
But in other countries and much of America, the idea, same as 2020, if it works, why change it, is to Dig or move as deeply into the summer months as possible, keeping the restrictions in place.
Because you know that come late August, September, they're shutting back down.
But what you want to do is squeeze that time where you may have to pull back a bit.
And that's what's happening and what's happening now.
And, you know, in terms of the public reaction, In the days of the first lockdown in the spring of 2020, I mean, you know, protesters, I mean, you know, they were an endangered species.
They just hardly existed, but some did.
And there were so few of them that the police moved in and that was the end of it.
But as this has gone, because, of course, early on in the spring of 2020, People were obviously frightened of the biggest fear.
We didn't know what was going on.
Yeah, the biggest fear, if you break it down, that humans have is fear of the unknown.
That's where the fear of death actually comes from.
And so it was fear of the unknown.
What is this thing that's coming out of China or not coming out of China?
And so you can understand that.
But what's happened is, as it's gone on, And the figures have made no sense.
The contradictions have made no sense.
And it's gone through 2020 into 2021.
At each stage, more people have been moving from buying it to not buying it.
And I was at a march in London yesterday.
The numbers were absolutely huge.
I mean, massive.
And they were all races, all sexualities, all ages.
It was an incredible cross-section of human society.
And those numbers were massively added to.
As a result of not opening up on the 21st of June, because people have now got to this point, I mean, people with any brain cell activity at all, where they've gone...
This is not ending, is it?
Because, you know, we're moving on now because, you know, time says we're moving quicker and quicker.
We're moving now into July and people are looking after last year's example that they're starting to look at late August, September and they're going, it's not going to end, is it?
And yes.
That's absolutely true.
It's not going to end unless we end it.
And that's moved enormous numbers of people off the fence, if you like, and to become active.
And yesterday's march in London was phenomenal because people are starting to see it.
We're being lied to! Hello!
Right. But David, this is the thing.
I'm going to speak to you just from a baby stance in what you've been through and what you've gone through.
I'm now starting to deal with, obviously, the ridicule.
I'm now starting to deal with the censorship.
I'm now starting to deal with people.
When we posted this about the awakening, people were like, well, what's talking going to do?
What are the solutions?
Why are you just talking, Simone?
Talking's not going to do anything.
How do I speak to people like this?
Because instantly, obviously, naturally for me, it's to get emotional and kind of get into my feelings and be like, can't you see I'm providing the knowledge that's supposed to lead to the solutions?
But it's like, I don't want to go back and forth with people.
So this is where I want to go into this part of it because I do want to spend some time closer to the end speaking about your newest book, Perceptions of a Renegade Mind, because I think it kind of ties into even what I'm speaking about right now.
It absolutely does, yeah.
Yeah, how do we...
For the ones who are here in it for the right reason, because I believe now too, David, there's been a lot of people who have come into this and it's not for the right reason.
It's sometimes I'm seeing a lot of ego now with this.
When you came out this, you stood alone.
It wasn't an ego thing.
It's not something you were trying to be the renegade.
Well, I guess you were. But it's not easy to stand alone.
Now it's like people popping up everywhere, but it doesn't feel authentic.
So for someone like me, what would you advise who's early in this fight?
How do you move through this?
And how did you move through this?
Well, I mean, you're right on the latter comment.
I think there is a lot of that coming in.
But what are you having a relationship with?
This is the question. Are you having a relationship with public opinion?
Are you having a relationship with how people see you?
Or how are you having a relationship with the truth?
And this is very important because if your relationship is with the truth and pursuing the truth and communicating what you uncover is the truth, Then what people say about you and do about you is irrelevant.
Because your relationships with the truth, you know, as I've gone through this 30 years, my question has never been, if I say this, what will people think?
It's been, is this true and can I justify it with evidence?
That what I'm saying is true.
That's the relationship I have with my work.
So, as long as I am confident that I can justify what I'm saying, I will say it.
It doesn't matter what it is.
I'm not interested in Protecting a belief system.
I'm interested in knowing what's going on.
And I'll go where the information takes me.
And if that takes me into some apparently crazy areas, which are not crazy at all, they just seem so to the programmed mind.
Then I'll go there.
And if people laugh and people hurl abuse at you, well, that's fair enough because I'm not having a relationship with you.
You know, what you think of me is none of my business.
You know what I mean? Think what you like.
It doesn't matter to me.
What matters to me is what I'm saying true or not.
And what that does is it takes you out of the whole concept of having your life dictated to by other people's perceptions.
This is really important.
If you don't live your own unique personal truth, and you start molding yourself to fit in with how other people think you should be, then what you're doing is you're conceding that very foundation of not only what it is to be human, but what it is to be consciousness.
And that's celebrating uniqueness.
We may be points of attention within the same infinite flow of consciousness, which I say we are, but we are unique points of attention within that infinite flow of consciousness, and we should celebrate that.
And so if anyone is allowing themselves to To mould themselves or even mould what they say and what they do to fit someone else's version of what they should be.
Well, they're not them anymore.
They're the person they're moulding themselves to please.
And it doesn't matter, I'll tell you that from absolutely experience, it doesn't matter what people think of you because they'll think something else tomorrow or next week or next year or in 10 years time.
So the thing is, if you don't speak your truth because you fear what other people think, Then you get further down the line and what you would have said happens So then what?
Well, yeah, I knew this was going to happen.
Yeah, I'm sure you did.
Why don't you say so? Because I was frightened of what people thought.
So if you speak your truth, it's very simple.
If what you're saying has validity, it will be shown eventually to be so.
It might take some time, but it will eventually be shown to be so.
But if you don't say it in the first place, it won't be shown to be so because you've never said it.
So it's really important that when people just open their mouth and say what they think, You see, it's not an accident that we're having this global campaign of pressure and intimidation not to say what you think.
Look at the entirety of human life now through this political correctness and this woke mentality and all this COVID nonsense.
It's about, in all these different aspects of life, stopping people through intimidation and censorship Saying what they think.
And that's absolutely the bottom line of what tyrannies have to do.
They want to control the narrative because they want to control people's perceptions because by their perceptions they control their behavior.
And therefore, they don't want an open conversation, an open debate, an exchange of ideas, an exchange of evidence, an exchange of views, an exchange of information, because that will lead to the expansion of people seeing life in many and various different ways.
They don't want that. They want one narrative.
And I said years ago in the books that The plan is to reach a point where no one anywhere in the world Ever sees or hears anything that the authorities don't want them to see and hear.
And this is the stepping stone, the totalitarian tiptoe that we're seeing now with all the censorship in Silicon Valley and the censorship in the media and all that.
It's to create a single global narrative which no one ever questions.
And so, you know, you can look for a solution to a problem And that usually leads to more problems.
Or you could do the sensible thing, which is to remove the cause of the problem.
And the cause of the problem is many-fold, but has several...
There are a few, really, central pillars.
One of them is that people don't speak their truth, and therefore one narrative prevails in the public arena.
And the other thing is that people throughout human history Have given their power away to authority.
Doesn't matter what the era is, it doesn't matter what the setting is or the culture is.
That's what happens.
And because there's a feedback loop, but humanity in general only sees half of it.
The half they see is authority imposing its will upon the population.
And if you only see that bit, you can fall for the myth, and it is a myth, that authority has power.
It doesn't. The bit that people don't see is the first stage of the feedback loop, which is, via acquiescence, the power of humanity is given to authority.
So we acquiesce to authority, and through that acquiescence, we're giving power to authority to impose its will upon us to complete the feedback loop.
And if you look at the numbers alone, the maths alone, the number of people that are being imposed upon in this world, getting on for 8 billion, and then you see the number that are actually doing it.
Even if you take all the law enforcement and the military together, it's still a tiny number by comparison.
And, you know, these marches in London are a real testament to what I've just said.
Because I mentioned earlier, in the spring of 2020, you know, you couldn't fill a phone box with protesters.
But it's got bigger and it's got bigger.
Now, in the early days, the police were shutting them down.
Police were arresting people.
Well, you have a go at arresting people yesterday in the way that they were before.
What's happened is the numbers have got so huge, the police just stand aside.
I mean, we were walking down, you know, masses of people Walking down the main streets of London yesterday, down the road, you couldn't stick to the pavement, there's too many people.
And they were shutting the streets.
And the police were just standing there.
Nothing they could do.
Because the numbers were too big.
There's more of us.
There's way more of us.
Yeah, look at it.
It's telling you.
We've got a football tournament on in Europe.
I've not watched any of it. The half-empty stadiums just remind me of the nonsense.
There was an England-Scotland game a few days ago, about a week ago.
And all the Scottish supporters came to London for the game at Wembley Stadium.
And there was a newspaper headline about the Scottish supporters had gone into the West End of London.
No masks, no social distancing.
And loads of them, thousands of them, and they had...
The police had moved in to try to break them up and stuff, but there was just too many people.
I mean, it said in the headline, please give up.
There's nothing they could do.
There was too many people saying, we're not complaining.
But throughout this lockdown period, this COVID era, There's a dictator in Scotland, the leader of the Scottish Parliament, called Nicola Sturgeon, who's been giving out the orders.
She's not got two brain cells to rub together, but she's been giving out the orders.
And people have been doing it!
And then when they had the England-Scotland game, there was another story about the rules, the stadium rules of people watching the game was you wore masks.
And the story was about, you know, large, large numbers of people refuse to wear masks when they're watching the game.
So it's like...
What could the authorities do about all those people not wearing masks?
Nothing! But no supporters, lots of them anyway, would leave the stadium, having done that, and they go in the shop and they put the mask on.
Well, you know, the answer is staring us in the face, but it's having the backbone, and this is where the renegade mind comes in, and the determination not to cooperate with tyranny.
And just a final point on the question about how we deal with this.
It's also a matter of What's your self-identity?
Because if you self-identify with just the body, the five sense mind as I call it, then what you're identifying with is an experience, because that's all this is.
You know, our consciousness is operating on particular frequencies.
Frequencies well beyond the world that we live in and our ability to see them.
And also, the ability, our consciousness is the ability to interact with this reality, the frequency band of this reality.
Two radio stations in the old analog system.
They share the same space, but they can't interfere with each other because they're on different wavelengths.
Well, our consciousness, the true eye, is on a high wavelength.
Well, it potentially is a high wavelength.
And the body is on a much lower wavelength.
So if our consciousness wants to experience this tiny band of frequency, that's all it is, that we call the human world, Then it has to take on an external vehicle that is within the frequency band of what your consciousness wants to experience.
Because through the body, I can tap these keys, I can pick my cup up, and I can interact with this reality.
My consciousness in its pure state can't, because it's nothing like on the same wavelength as the world we are interacting with.
It's a bit like putting on a space suit, go to the moon, if you like, in symbolic terms.
So what this global cult does, because it It's a network of secret societies which are there for, actually, the name gives it away.
It's to keep secrets. From who?
From the population.
And crucial, crucial in the inner core of these secrets that they want to keep in the population is the nature of reality, the nature of the true I, which is consciousness.
So that people perceive the world only through the five senses.
And that means that you are self-identifying with the body and the experiences the body is having.
So if you said to someone, who are you?
They would give you their name.
They'd give you probably their job.
They give you maybe their race, their sexuality increasingly today.
It's your sexuality.
I don't have to know about it.
You know what I mean? All the best, but I don't need to know about it.
I certainly don't need a letter to indicate your sexuality.
Just go on with it. They might tell you their cultural background.
But they won't say, I am consciousness having a human experience.
The I is the human experience.
And that means that they are...
Self-identifying the I with an experience and not the true I. The true I is consciousness, eternal consciousness.
That's what is having what we call near-death experiences when people leave the body and experience a totally different reality.
Because this is just a tiny band of frequency.
Self-identify with the labels and the so-called three school years at its head of a human life, then things can look a certain way.
What people think of you can seem very important.
How you're perceived can be seen as very important.
And all the stuff that we're talking about.
But when you say, my true I is consciousness, on an eternal journey of exploring forever, forever, Then what someone says to you on Facebook or Twitter rather pales into insignificance, especially when you know, and this is the point, you know that they're saying what they are saying because of the programmed perceptions that have been instilled of them.
In terms of the younger generations today in recent times, mercilessly, The younger generations today and the kids today are being subjected to the most extreme forms of technology, forms of perceptual programming.
And so they see the world according to the programming.
And so it's also about understanding why people react to you as they do.
But not to get pulled in to letting it affect you, because once you leave the body, all the things that seem to be so important don't matter anymore.
Just finally, I wrote in some of the books years ago about what I call the deathbed perception.
You've got 10 minutes to live, right?
Okay. So what matters now?
What matters? Did it matter what that woman said to you in 1963?
What about that guy that cut you up at the lie when you got out and threatened to punch him?
What about what that person said on Twitter or Facebook about you?
Does that matter now? What matters now?
What matters now is how much I was loved, how much I loved, and what matters now is did I speak my truth or did I hide from it?
And then you say to them, well, I've got some good news for it.
I was kidding. You haven't got 10 minutes to leave.
You've got a long time to leave.
Now live your bloody life from here on.
On the basis of what you thought was important if you had 10 minutes to go.
It's such a thing to think about.
That's such a thing to think about, David, honestly.
And I want to kind of, going off of that into a, I want to talk about two things.
I definitely want to end us talking about how to have that renegade mind.
But I want to speak on a couple things.
You spoke on Secret Societies.
So I want to talk with you about your thoughts on the G7 Summit.
There's certain things I saw that I was like, hmm.
Like even the whole elbow.
This elbow thing they were doing.
And also, when I was reading an article talking about how they're reopening, I'm going to touch on the spiritual part here, and maybe you can help me figure some things out.
So they're saying at weddings and at funerals, and I'm going to speak for the Africans in diaspora.
So most of our church services are built around worship, which is singing.
So they're saying now that in the UK, you can have tables limited to six.
I've noticed that that number six is very prevalent, six feet apart.
You can only have six people at your table.
But you're not allowed to dance or sing at a wedding or a funeral.
Now, again, for many people, and definitely for Africans living in the diaspora and in Africa, singing and dancing is a very spiritual experience.
It is what allows for, when people talk about catching the Holy Ghost, that happens with singing and dancing.
Now, is this a direct attack on spirituality when they're doing things like this, like pulling singing and dancing out of things like weddings and funerals?
Whoa! How long we got?
Oh, that's a really fascinating area.
And, you know, I could talk for hours, but I won't.
The thing is, you know, if you break it all down, it all comes down to consciousness and your state of consciousness.
And your state of consciousness dictates the frequency that you're operating on.
So if you look at things like depression and anxiety, big time fear, they are very low frequency states of being.
And low frequency means instead of something vibrating quickly, moving quickly, and creating movement, What low vibrational states of being do is they create a slowness in the energetic field, including the human energetic field, which creates density.
So you know when people are in these low vibrational states, emotional states, mental states, what do they say?
They say, I feel so heavy today.
And that the heaviness It's because the frequency they're generating is creating density.
And then you say, oh, I feel so joyous today!
That is a fantastic day, isn't it?
And that's a very high, very fast frequency.
Joy, love, all these things.
Very, very high. Empathy, compassion, they're all high frequencies.
And so then you, if you're going to break it down, Into its basic form.
We can talk about global cults.
We can talk about human race.
We're talking about consciousness.
A psychopath is a psychopath because of their state of consciousness.
A wonderful, kind person is a kind person because of their state of consciousness.
And their state of consciousness becomes their perception, becomes their behavior.
So consciousness is all.
So, you know, we can talk about different kinds of people in the human race, psychopaths, you know, kind people.
We can talk about extraterrestrials and this, that and the other, and I do.
But in the end, what it comes down to is their state of consciousness.
An extraterrestrial that is benevolent to humanity is benevolent because of its state of consciousness.
One that is antagonistic and malevolent to humanity is malevolent because of its state of consciousness.
In the end, you can break this whole thing down, this whole thing that's going on in the world, You can break it down to a state of consciousness.
People marching through London with joy and love and respect and self-respect are in a completely different state of consciousness to those walking down morbidly with face diapers on and doing what they're told.
So it all comes down to consciousness.
And you can break it down even deeper because One of the themes that I've picked up...
This is coming round to answer the question big time.
One of the themes that I've picked up over the years is in all these different cultures, they describe it in different ways, give it different names, but it's a state of consciousness that is very manipulated, very inverted, very chaotic. You can think about it as a chaotic consciousness with no balance and harmonies.
And it's been given different names.
The Gnostic belief system has called it archons, which is Greek or rulers.
They also have an individualized name for it, which is Yelda Baoth.
But there's a Native American Tribal grouping called the Cree, and they call it Wetiko, which is the one I've gone with, because it has that feel about it.
Once I saw a Wetiko, I thought, yeah, I'm going with that name, because it really gives me a feel for what the thing is.
And Wetiko and other Native American tribal groups call it different names, some of them very close to Wetiko, but it's the same phenomenon.
It's a state of consciousness.
It's very inverted, very chaotic, and by its very nature, Very low vibration.
And this state of consciousness has been seeking to attach itself To other consciousness and draw it in, to bring it into its vibration.
And so if you look at the psychopaths running the global cult, in fact the global cult in general, it's an expression of Wotiko.
It's a manifestation of Wotiko.
Because one of the things Wotiko doesn't have is empathy.
It doesn't have compassion.
It doesn't have emotional consequence for what it does.
And that's its wotico.
That manifests as psychopaths and psychopathy.
Psychopathy is what? It's a state of consciousness.
It's a very distorted, inverted state of consciousness, which has what?
No empathy, no compassion, no emotional consequence of what it does.
So when I talk about the cult being run by psychopaths and governments being run by psychopaths, it's not for effect.
It's actually the truth.
So, this Wetiko low vibrational state of consciousness also has other manifestations.
Because over the years as I've researched this, well actually quite early on, it was clear that if you go back in history, in the history of this cult and human manipulation, then You see people, individuals, you know, being born, playing a part in advancing this agenda, dying, other people come in, play their part.
And you look at it and you think it has to be, through this whole period that this cult has grabbed more and more power, centralised power in the world over the human population, there has to be a common force that actually spans this period, that's been coordinating it all.
And the more that I've gone deeper into this whole thing, the more it is this Wotiko state of consciousness.
It doesn't have form, it can take form, but it's actually a state of awareness, or unawareness, in fact.
So it manifests itself in this cult and current events as the in-your-face, can't-miss-it, stamped-on-the- forehead psychopaths like Bill Gates, Antony Fauci, and the crowd that That are running the situation in Britain and all these other countries.
Ted Ross at the World Health Organization, all these characters.
But it also manifests in other ways.
Because if you can be pulled into its low vibrational state, then you become a manifestation of it.
So if you look at all these journalists who are all over the world, because it's universal, who are quite well, press can't be expected, accepted.
Where they're quite okay Not all of them may like it, but they're quite okay to still do it, and lie on a level that is costing the lives of enormous numbers of people, that is costing the freedom of even more, and will cost the freedom, is costing the freedom of even their own children and their own families.
I mean, that's bizarre, but they're doing it, and they're doing it because they are also an expression of this fatigue cult.
And then you look at another level of this Wotico consciousness, and that is that which is subservient to the psychopaths and believes what the fake journalists' lies are telling them.
And this Wotico consciousness is the common theme And it's a very low frequency state of awareness, state of consciousness.
Okay, so I said a few minutes ago, what they want to do, what Watiko wants to do, as the Kree call it, is to attach and absorb, assimilate consciousness, other consciousness into itself to make it become an expression of Watiko.
So, In the Christian religion, and this is another sad thing really, is that people have their different concepts and their different religions.
Because the concepts are slightly different conceptually, they perceive that they're right, someone else is wrong.
But when you break it down, they're saying the same thing.
So when I'm saying that we expand our consciousness to connect with the greater self, the greater infinity, And then the Christian will say, you know, you connect with the Holy Ghost or the Holy Spirit.
Well, that's just their way of saying the same thing, you see.
This is the crazy thing. So if you expand yourself, if your heart sings, which is a massively high frequency state, or the heart's the center of it, It's why the heart has been so associated with love.
It's not actually the physical heart that they are connected.
It's the spiritual heart, the heart vortex, what heart chakra is, they call it in the east.
So if that is going to expand your consciousness, your awareness, it's going to raise your frequency by your state of being.
Well, it's the last thing Watiko wants, and it's the last thing the cult that is actually Watiko made manifest wants.
It wants people in fear.
It wants people in anxiety.
It wants people in a state of conflict.
All these low vibrational states.
I mean, look at how the suicide rate has soared during the COVID era.
Then, obviously, that's a very severe state of depression, which is a low frequency state.
So if you If you want to draw people in to this Wetiko consciousness so they become a manifestation of it, then you want them in states of fear, anxiety, depression, and all these low vibrational states.
You don't want them singing in a church communally and raising the vibration over themselves and indeed the congregation in general.
And also, you don't want people interacting with each other.
You don't want community.
You don't want people coming together.
You want to drive them apart.
This is what the social distancing and the masks are all about, at least on one level.
It's driving people apart.
It's stopping human interaction.
And without interaction, humans go into low vibrational states.
They do. I mean, look at the psychological effects on children and people in general of the COVID regulations.
It's all about driving people apart, driving people apart so much.
But you can't, you know, they say you can't leave your house, and you're under house arrest.
And, you know, all these things that give people joy, and all these things where people come together, the bars, the pubs, the restaurants, and the sporting events, all these things, the theatres, culture, interaction, all these things that are high vibrational states.
They are all being targeted, which is why I say, you know, we can look at the namespace places and stuff, and we should, because that's the way it plays out, and we need to understand that to understand what is playing out and why and how.
But in the end, it comes down to To a state of consciousness that wants to pull people into its low vibrational layer.
Like a vortex. Yeah, you can very much symbolize it or more as a vortex because of its chaotic nature.
Think of a tornado.
You know the tornado's coming and it's pulling cars in and it's pulling people in and all that stuff?
That's what's eco symbolized.
And so you look at that and then you then look at the world and you realize that what is actually going on is people are being pulled Systematically into low vibrational states, so Wotiko can assimilate them and start dictating their perceptions and their behavior.
Now, we come round to these fake COVID vaccines.
I don't know if you've come across this, but I've come across it massively from different sources.
Because of what I do, I get information from lots of different people and sources.
The number of times I've been told that when people have had this fake vaccine, their personality has changed.
They're not the same person.
A word that's used quite a few times is that they look vacant.
There's no one home. You hear descriptions from people like what are called Reiki healers, energetic healers that work with the different energetic fields of the body, because there are many.
And they say that when people have had this weight waxing, Their energetic connections start to break up.
So, you know, we have the five sense mind, the five sense level, which is immediately interacting with this band of frequencies we call the human world.
But there are other levels of awareness within the human entity, I'm going off into infinity, that's supposed to interact.
With the five sense mind.
So you're in this world, but you're not entirely of it.
You've got other filters and other processing levels of information.
Because this level won't see the world the same as this level.
So, if you start, if you create a situation where you start to disconnect the five sense mind from these other levels of consciousness, you isolate the five sense mind from what I call the bubble.
And once you've isolated the five sense mind, where's it going to get its perceptions from?
Well, it's not going to get it from there anymore because that connection has been diluted.
Where's he going to get it? He's going to get it this way.
He's going to get it from the information sources of the human world, which is now, of course, increasingly dominated by a single narrative.
And if you hear enough things, enough times, you believe it.
Especially if you're disconnected from other levels of consciousness.
And, you know, Rudolf Steiner, 100 years ago, who, not only a very awake man, he had many connections into the system.
He actually said 100 years ago that what's coming is a vaccine, that's a great vaccine, a vaccine, that will be given to children of birth, pretty much of birth.
And it will disconnect them from their spiritual self.
And what is left will be an ultimatum.
And, you know, when you look at this explanation that I'm going through here, this attack on the connection of the five sense mind to the greater self, These vaccinations, fake vaccinations, are fundamental to that because what it's doing is changing DNA. I mean, I loved it.
I've been writing the books for years that RNA Can communicate with DNA and therefore change DNA. And the biological story has been, oh, no, no, no, RNA can't communicate with DNA. DNA can only communicate with RNA. And this is what they've said about these mRNA vaccines or fake vaccines is, no, it can't affect the DNA because the RNA can't change the DNA. And now I'm seeing...
Reports or papers coming out of universities saying, actually, we found that it can.
Yes, of course it can, and that's what these vaccinations are about.
Now, if you break down what DNA is in one of its foundation form, it's a receiver transmitter of information.
It's what it is. It's receiving and transmitting.
And it's receiving and transmitting on particular frequencies and the perceptions, someone's perceptions are affecting those frequencies.
Now, if you are changing the DNA by putting synthetic RNA material into the body, which is what they're doing, And you change DNA, you're changing the frequencies on which it is receiving and transmitting.
Makes sense. You're changing what it can receive and transmit.
Right. And part of this receiver transmission system is this connection to other levels of cells.
And so, over the years, I've pointed out, over the decades, that the foundation One of this cult's agenda for humanity, a way of manipulation, is to isolate perception in the five senses.
And it's been done up to this point by controlling information as much as they can, by basically not talking about other levels of reality, what have you.
It's all the five senses.
And now they have gone to another level of that disconnection.
And the end game of the disconnection is to connect artificial intelligence to the human brain.
That's Agenda 2030?
Is that what you're speaking of? Yeah.
Well, 2030 is a key year for these people.
It comes up again and again.
And Agenda 2030, the UN operation, is one of its One of its expressions, but you've got Ray Kurzweil, the so-called futurist at Google, a Google executive, saying that humans will be connected, human brains will be connected to AI by 2030, this recurring name.
Human-caused climate change hoax.
You'll see that they're saying, we've got so many years to save the world.
The latest one, what happened to the last one?
But the latest one will take you to around 2030.
The disconnection of the five sense mind from the greater self is all part of this.
If you can pull the five sense mind into a low vibrational state, you also aid that disconnection because what it should be connected to is in a higher frequency state.
And so the more joy they can delete, the more love they can delete, the more The more awareness of the greater self they can delete, the better it is for them.
And I wish people could see that and understand that that's exactly what they're doing.
I don't even know if we're going to have enough time because I know I wanted to talk about your thoughts on the G7, but I feel like that would open up a whole other dialogue.
The thing about the G7, it's irrelevant.
These people aren't making decisions.
You see the G7, it was in Cornwall in England.
What it is, break it down, in terms of the leaders, like Trudeau.
I mean, Trudeau's making decisions?
It's hilarious! You know, he's not making decisions, he's like, wow!
And so, what happens is, look at the time at a G7. They're having press conferences, they're eating, and they're having photo opportunities.
What's decided is decided by the co-operatives in the different countries before there's even a G7 summit.
The G7 summit is just, oh yeah, let's let them think that these politicians are making the decisions.
It's hilarious! Joe Biden is making a decision!
It's insane!
So when you see the G7, actually, it's the shadows that it's coming from and the decisions.
Oh, you haven't decided anything!
You just signed the papers!
It's ridiculous.
Oh boy. Okay, we'll end it there.
We'll leave that there.
Let's end this talking about...
I want to know from you is how do you become a renegade mind?
How do you... What are the perceptions of a renegade mind?
What do people have to look forward to with this new book that you have that's come out?
Well, it operates on many levels.
And one of the...
What it goes into is the understanding that...
We're all one consciousness.
Because a renegade mind can see that we're all connected.
What the body decoding systems is doing is decoding reality within a certain band of frequency.
And that band of frequency does not include the consciousness, the energy that connects everything.
All it can do is decode reality I'll call it the physical level, it's really holographic, but it can only decode form that operates in the frequency of form.
So to the five sense mind, the world is form with empty space in between.
I'm looking at the radiator, I'm looking at the filing cabinet, whatever, the computer.
And in between is empty space, through my five sense perception.
But if we could go deeper into the visual field, we'd see that everything, every human, everything that exists in our reality is connected by a field of consciousness, like a scene of consciousness.
And so if you want to affect all the fish, how do you do it at the same time and affect them all at the same time in the same way?
You affect the steam.
Which is what they are an expression of, what they're part of.
And so this field of energy, what I call the field, which connects us is a big target for this cult.
It wants to keep it in a low vibrational state because we're interacting with it and therefore we are The renegade mind works on many levels.
First of all, it knows that this world is a holographic illusion.
It's a place to experience certain types of experiences.
And it knows that the The body, the name, the race, all these things are experiences.
They're not who we are.
You know, you don't have a white race and a black race and an Arabic race and an Asian race.
In the realms of consciousness, they are expressions of A human experience.
There are expressions of the vehicle through which we have that.
And that's fantastic. I mean, you come in here.
I mean, love your experience.
Love being black. Love being Asian.
Love being English. Whatever you like.
It's an experience. Encompass it.
Enjoy it. Enjoy the uniqueness of it.
But don't fall for the trap that it's who you are.
Who you are is the consciousness of having an experience.
So the renegade mind is coming from that perspective, which means the whole world looks very different.
You see things like racism and all this stuff as utter nonsense.
It's like two people on the moon Being in conflict because their spacesuits are different colors or made by a different manufacturer.
You'd say, Houston, we've got a problem.
We've got two idiots on the moon.
But it's fine if you do it in the human world.
It's all nonsense.
So immediately your self-identity is...
I am consciousness having the experience.
I am not the experience.
I'm not the phantom self, the label self.
I am the experienced self.
So that changes everything for a start.
But it changes something else because once you realize that you are consciousness, eternal consciousness, on an eternal journey of experience, I mean, what we are living, if you like, within, what infinity, the infinity of consciousness is, it's all possibility.
It's all potential.
It's like having the whole internet, like the Wi-Fi field, symbolic of the field, It's like having the whole internet to go to, but you only keep going to the same website, that's all, and looking at the same subject.
Boom! You've got all infinity of potential.
And you're tunneled. Yeah, so what you also do is you realise it's just an experience.
And I'm eternal consciousness, having that experience.
And because, you know, the infinity of consciousness is all possibility, all potential, that's where you get phrases like, God, if you like, being all that is, has been, and ever can be.
And the five sense mind says, nothing can be all that is, has been, and ever can be.
Oh yes, it can. What?
All possibility.
All potential. All possibility is only all possibility because it's all that is, has been and ever can be.
That's just what all possibility is.
And so that's as bad as it gets.
So you're looking at a human experience.
You're looking at the consequences.
Well, you're not, actually.
But if you're in a five-sense mind, you're looking at consequences all the time.
And the consequences are what turn you into conformity.
Even if you don't like what's going on, The consequences will make you conform.
Renegade mind, renegade heart, actually.
But the renegade mind, the renegade heart, doesn't think consequences.
I know a lot of people find that very strange, but it doesn't.
Because once you enter this full renegade state of consciousness, not doing what you know to be right is unimaginable, unthinkable, and it's not going to happen.
So therefore, what is the point of considering consequences for doing what you know to be right?
Right. There's no need to think about it.
No, to consider them is to consider not doing what you know to be right.
Not doing what's right. Yeah.
And I'm not talking about, you know, walking in front of a bus and saying, oh, I'm a parent about the consequences.
I'm not talking about that level. I'm talking about doing what you know to be right, not least in this COVID era, but thinking, what are the consequences for me of doing what I know to be right, of saying this, of doing this, of refusing to do this?
And so the renegade mind doesn't think consequences.
It says, what is the right thing to do?
Okay, I'm doing it.
And you know, when we talk about our states of mind, our state of emotion, our state of mental state, is giving off frequencies.
And these frequencies are interacting with the field of possibility and probability.
So if you think that you are little me and have no power, for instance, which is what the cult wants us all to believe.
Has told us, yes. You are going to interact with the field of possibility and probability within that frequency band that says, I am little me.
And what you're going to manifest as a life experience is a life experience of little me.
And if you, in the same way, say, if I do this, I'm going to get these consequences, then you're basically creating a self-fulfilling prophecy, because your state of consciousness is going to interact with possibility and probability, and it's going to manifest experiences or have a very good chance of doing that.
That relate to what you think the consequences are going to be of you doing what you believe to be right.
But I tell you, my experience over the decades is that saying and doing what you know to be right does get you into some scrapes in a world that doesn't want you to say that.
But it works out in the end.
You know, it's like, if I say what I know to be right, I'm going to lose my job.
Okay, so your job is the only possibility.
There's no other possibility for you doing anything in your life except that job.
Therefore, you fear the consequence of losing it.
This is all possibility and all potential.
Your job is just one tiny, tiny, tiny infinitesimal possibility within all possibility.
And what you find if you go for this, saying and doing what you know to be right, That frequency, that state of being interacts with possibility and probability and it helps you on the way to fulfilling what you want to do.
You started by saying know the outcome and you will see the journey.
That's the very first thing that you stated.
So if you see your journey, there is no fear of doing something, for example, like leaving a job, because you have that, you know your outcome, you know what you want.
Yeah, and what tends to happen is...
And Dave, I'm sorry, I'm gonna let you know now, I've already been told, we've gone way over time, so...
Okay, the thing is that...
What you find is when you open up and let go of this fear and just go for it, you find that amazing coincidences and synchronicities start to happen.
I mean, I look back at my life.
I mean, I tell you, the number of times I've thought, well, I'm done here.
I'm not going to get out of this one!
And something happens.
Absolutely, often at the last minute, because that happening at the last minute is building this confidence that no matter what's happening, something's going to come up.
Just at the time you think, I'm done.
Something comes up, you realize you're not done.
But this is how we are manifesting our own reality through our perceptions in our interaction with the field of possibility and probability.
And fear of consequences will most likely bring you those consequences.
Dave, honestly, and this is what happens.
I lost track of time, I swear.
The timer that's in front of me, I stopped paying attention to it like 20 minutes ago.
And Grant was like, Simone, we got to get going.
Let's get this over.
So Dave, honestly, thank you again.
And tell people where they can get Renegade Mind.
And I'm going to make a request because yesterday was my birthday and I was supposed to speak with you yesterday.
So I'm requesting one of your books, please, signed for my birthday.
Okay. We'll get that sorted out.
They can get it from davidhyke.com.
Can I just say one thing very quickly?
Please. Because I think it's important.
Maybe there's some things that are going to come along.
I've been saying since April 6, 2020, actually before that, but in a particular interview on April 6, 2020, that there is no virus.
And they've never isolated the virus, never shown it to exist.
I could talk for hours about the nonsense that viruses cause disease, as can open-minded doctors and virologists.
But what's happened very quickly in very recent times is suddenly you couldn't talk about a virus being released from the Wuhan lab.
And now suddenly you can.
Everywhere. Everywhere. That's a massive red flag.
Because what they want, they don't care.
They don't care why you believe there's a virus, whether it's natural or released by accident from Wuhan or released on purpose, so long as you believe in it.
Because once you believe in it, they say, well, we need vaccines to sort it out.
We need lockdown just to protect people.
And once you've got the belief in the existence of a virus from whatever source, you can invent variants to your heart's content to justify more lockdown and say it's more transmissible.
And I'll just say this very quickly.
First of all, and you will know this, But when you see how incredibly Organized and prepared for this COVID hoax was.
Now it played out so fast.
It was clearly planned a long time.
I mean, the evidence is just fantastic.
So there's no way that they were sitting around the table having got all this plan in place, like the event 201 and all that with Gates and the economic forum.
They were strumming their fingers saying, now we've got everything in place.
All we need now is someone to accidentally leak an infectious agent from the Wuhan lab or some other lab.
That's nonsense. Of course that didn't happen.
But then you go to the next one, which the alternative media, much of it he's talking about, which is released on purpose.
Well, I could talk for hours about that, but ultimately this point.
Okay, you're going to release an infectious agent, yeah.
You don't want people to know you've released it, right?
No, no. So where are you going to release it then?
Oh, we thought down the street from the lab, right?
What? It's crazy!
But the thing is, you've got to believe in the virus, because the whole scam is built off that.
And the reason we have the PCR test, which is not testing for a virus, but is giving fake cases, because there isn't a freaking virus, and that's why they need that test.
Anyway, shut me up.
I'll go on forever. Listen, David, as usual, thank you for being who you are for as long as you've been who you are.
Thank you for continuing to keep us awake and being part of this awakening because you are part of this on a global scale.
And I'm so happy that you've come here to sit down with us again today.
Everybody, definitely, if you don't know the great David Dyke, thank you for coming today.
Have a wonderful evening and hopefully get to catch a little bit more.
I have Dr. Zev Zelenko after.
That's probably going to be a really good interview.
You may want to step in and yeah, listen to that.
Ken, you're doing amazing work and, you know, you need great congratulations for all you do.
Stage 1 Ukrainian problems, it could be a manufactured virus.
You want a reaction and you want them to either say, do something, or you want them to accept what the authorities suggest must be done.
So one of the agendas is to massively cull the population.
They want to reduce the numbers.
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