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May 26, 2021 - David Icke
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David Icke Talks To Bart Socha About The Nature Of Reality And Escaping The Matrix
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Ladies and gentlemen, the legendary David Icke.
Hello, David Eich. Welcome in the Shaman's Eye podcast.
Thank you very much.
I'm privileged to be the first one, aren't I? Yes, yes, you absolutely are.
And, you know, you're the most probably honorable member so far.
So, you know, it's a great pleasure to be able to speak to you.
David, the quite obvious question at the beginning, how does it feel to be right so many times in your predictions, you know, especially now when we can clearly see that the cult is rushing to these final stages of a population control program?
How does it feel to be right again and again and again?
Well, not as good as people might think, because the whole idea of what I've been doing for 30 years or more than 30 years now is to alert people that this was coming so that we could do something to head it off.
But as I said years ago, when people said, you know, how do you think it's going to go?
I said, well, it's got to get really, really bad.
Before enough people will see that the world's not like they thought it was, and where it's actually going, for enough to respond and turn this around.
And that's the way it's going.
We are seeing two societies very clearly emerging.
A society based on two perceptual states.
One which is in such a perceptual coma that it still believes, whatever the authorities tell it, despite being lied to, By the same authorities for well over a year.
And another perceptual state, which is starting to break out of that coma and see that actually the world is very different to what they thought they were living in.
And so we're at a real pivotal point.
I think 2021 is such a pivotal year.
And where we are at the end of this year will...
We'll see where this is going longer term.
Because the few, and it's a tiny few, are hurtling towards their endgame.
And they're doing it so fast because they are in the process of trying to lock down society on a global level.
Not least through technological control, surveillance, etc.
Before enough people ever woken up to what's going on.
So this is the key reason they're pushing this through so fast, because all the way through the last 30 years, I've been dismissed by so many people in what I said was coming.
Because they couldn't see it.
They couldn't conceive it, perceive it.
Yes. It was operating in the shadows.
Now, if you knew what you were looking for and you knew what the game was and the techniques of manipulation and where it was meant to go, then you could see it clear as day a long time back, decades back.
But in people's everyday life, you know, they're getting on with their life and they're not seeing it.
But now the big change that's happened since the start, really, or the early weeks of 2020 is that you've got to be solid gold asleep.
Exactly. So we have had this tremendous awakening of more and more people to the fact that we have to do something here.
And we've got three basic groups of people.
We've got the coma people who We could go into this.
Their brain is like a firewall computer.
It simply cannot process certain information.
In fact, at its most extreme, I don't think it can process information in the sense of filtering it and analyzing it and looking at whether it stands up to scrutiny, asking questions about it.
The most extreme Of the coma.
They do not have the ability simply to process and filter information.
Confirmation bias. Yeah, what they have the ability to do, pretty much only, and they don't have to be like this, they've chosen to be, is to, like a computer, Take input data, this is what the government tells them, what the medical world health organization tyranny tells them, and then What follows is the equivalent of press enter.
It's not that they take information and process it in the terms of questioning it.
They just take it and repeat it.
Take it and believe it.
That's one group at the most extreme.
That group has a lot of other people who simply don't want to face it.
They'd rather stay in ignorance than face the Magnitude of what's going on.
It's a quite bitter pill to swallow.
Yeah. And then you've got another group that can see that it's a scam, at least at some level.
They can see this COVID nonsense is a hoax to transform society.
But they've not made that...
That move from seeing it to ceasing to cooperate with it because they're frightened of the consequences of doing so.
And then you've got another group, which is getting bigger, getting bigger, which has seen it and won't cooperate with it.
And we need this second group That can see it, but I've got to do it.
Moving across to the third group because that non-cooperation has to become a tidal wave because a few can't control the many if the many won't cooperate.
But what we've had throughout human history is the few controlling the many because the many have cooperated because of those first two groups.
The people who are just throughout history, if authority, the king, the queen, whatever, tells them to do something, they do it.
I don't question it, they do it.
I know my place.
But crucial has been this second group, which hasn't wanted to do what the king or queen said, or what the authority of the day said in whatever form it is, but they've done it anyway because they fear not doing it.
And as I've said so many times, fascism is not introduced by fascists because there's never enough of them.
Fascism is introduced by the population acquiescing to fascism.
And that's what we've seen in the last more than a year now, this COVID hoax, is that capitulation of the many to the few.
But things are changing and more and more people...
See, the further along this road it goes, the more extreme it becomes, the more people who can see it at some level I'm looking at it and saying, well, actually, I really don't want to stand up to this because I don't want the consequences.
But as it gets more extreme, the realization is dawning of, well, that may be true, but the consequences of not doing it are going to be far worse than the consequences of doing it.
And of course, if enough people refuse to cooperate, there are no consequences.
Because there's simply not enough people in dark suits and not enough people in uniform to impose their will upon seven-plus billion people.
It's just not possible. So it's the...
The cooperation with our own enslavement that has to stop.
And that will decide, and through 2021 now, big decisions from that point of view are going to have to be made.
Not least for our kids as they try to impose this gene therapy, DNA, genetic manipulating vaccine upon them.
We'll see as 2021 unfolds where we're going simply on the basis of Human acquiescence to tyranny or refusal.
Exactly. I don't know anyone, I don't know about you, but I don't know anyone who has been died of COVID, but I know already three persons, personally, that have died of the vaccine.
Yeah, well, you see, when you've got a narrative which is ludicrous, is unsupportable by the evidence, And a pack of extreme lies, then the only way you're going to protect that narrative from exposure and being dismantled is Is to censor and silence those who are dismantled.
That's why we've had all the censorship.
You've been one of the first guys that has been severely censored.
They've been censoring me since 1995!
You know, I mean, all this censorship, crikey, you know, I've been subject to that since 1995.
It's nothing new to me.
I mean, the extreme nature of it, yes, but not censorship.
But it has to happen.
The censorship has to happen.
Because otherwise, their ridiculous story would simply not stand up.
And you've introduced a particular area where they have to desperately suppress the truth.
And that's the impact of these fake vaccines.
What they're doing Is infusing synthetic genetic material into the body.
And they're having to use techniques which become known as the Trojan horse to trick the body, trick the cells to allow it in because their natural response is to reject synthetic material, which is not of the body.
But that's what's happening. And so the short and long term, particularly long term actually, consequences that going to be catastrophic.
So the idea, for much bigger reasons, is to put this stuff into every human being.
And so when they start rolling it out and the consequences start to become clear, they sure as hell don't want people to know what those consequences are.
Especially Bill Gates.
Other people will say, well, hold on a minute, I'm not having this.
So we've had this...
Disgusting media ignoring of the real consequences.
But if we put it into context, the official reporting systems of vaccine adverse effects and death, the yellow card system in Britain, the VAR system in America, and so on, It's accepted, even by the authorities, that no more than 10% of adverse reactions are actually reported.
And if you look at many studies, including one by Stanford, they put the figure as low as 1%.
And if you talk to medical staff and nurses who had the courage to speak out, they'll tell you the pressure upon medical staff not to report this particular series of fake vaccines.
So where I'm going with this is that the reporting ratio is going to be, with these fake vaccines, much closer to 1% than 10%.
And then you take the yellow card reporting system in Britain, And even by that, with that criteria I've just laid out, 674,000, in fact, it's over 700,000 now, people have reported adverse reactions.
So multiply that.
It's given the benefit of the doubt.
Multiply that by 10.
Yeah. And then over a thousand people have died shortly after having this gene therapy.
And multiply that by 10.
And then, as you just mentioned, you start to, only start, but you do start to sync personal experience with the figures.
Because if you take the, you know, six, seven hundred thousand adverse reactions and a thousand deaths, That does not match people's personal experience.
You should say yourself, you know, three people have had the vaccine.
There's three from a thousand immediately, one guy.
So the figures are massively higher, but they're not being reported for the reasons I talked about.
They can't let this come out, or people will start refusing to have it.
It's the level of psychopath, because given those figures and what I've just said, they now want to...
They now want to do this to young kids and babies.
The level of evil is extraordinary.
We need to grasp that to understand and appreciate what we're dealing with.
It's totally true what you're saying because those three people that I know of, they've been fairly young guys, two guys, one gal, in their 50s.
One of them has died Five days after vaccination, of course, after, you know, they tried to examine the body, they said, unknown cause.
And so was the case with the rest of the two people that I know.
The cause was unknown.
The evidence has been clear, quite, you know, one person has been saying that she has severe leg pain, and clearly the blood clot has been emerging, but they said, oh, we don't know why, we don't know the cause, so it's just like denying of it.
It's horrible. Yeah, because if you have a test With a test that's actually not testing for a virus, the PCR test, and you test positive, then if you die of anything within 28 days and longer in some cases, you have COVID-19 on the death certificate, even though you may have died of gunshot wounds, as has been the case with some people in America.
But when it comes to the The fake vaccine, you can have it and die and oh no, no, you can't prove that it was the vaccine.
So, you know, the lies are just extraordinary in their number and their nature.
But they have to do that.
They haven't got any choice because their story is so full of holes, contradictions and obvious mendacity.
That if they allowed a free flow of information, if that had happened, this would have been over months and months and months ago.
Yes, and I even have a few friends that are not on the conspiracy side of you, but we don't...
We're not even talking about conspiracy anymore.
This is the reality. But I have one particular friend and he's seriously doubting in all of the conspiracy stuff.
But after he was reading the data about how many people dies, how many people died in previous years, even he's now converted.
And he said, no, I'm not having this vaccine.
This is total bullshit. I'm just like, you know, what do you think?
Why are they rushing so much now?
Why now? Well, because they have a timescale.
You know, people like Aldous Huxley and George Orwell, myself, and people I've quoted, insiders I've quoted in the books over the years, have not been able to predict this stuff because it's random.
You cannot...
Predict random.
You certainly can't predict random in detail, and you might get lucky here and there, but you can't predict random again and again and again and again.
The reason you can predict it is it's planned.
And, you know, people say to me, oh, you predicted the future.
Well, only in a way, because there is a plan for the world.
That's being orchestrated by what I call the global cult, which is a global network of secret societies with a central interlocking leadership.
And therefore, if nothing intervenes to stop that plan, That plan becomes the human future.
And therefore, if you uncover the plan and say this is what the plan is, then you are, in effect, predicting the future.
But what you're doing is predicting the plan.
It doesn't have to be the future if humanity will cease to cooperate with it.
And this is what...
We live in a reality that has two worlds, as the world of the general population and their access to knowledge is not least of the nature of reality, is strictly limited.
And then you have the world of the cult, where advanced knowledge they don't want the public to know is passed over through the secret societies, the inner core, the upper levels of them.
I mean, you look at the Freemasons, well, Most Freemasons are just a cover for what's really going on, and most of them don't even know what's going on themselves, but the inner core does, and this is how these compartmentalized structures of secret societies work.
So, Aldous Huxley, in his Brave New World in 1932, who was predicting what's happening now in the genetic manipulation and the manipulation of perception through drugs, etc., He was not coming purely from his imagination, even in 1932, because this other world projects this a long way forward.
And it's the same with Orwell.
Like Huxley, Orwell had many connections into the establishment and the established order.
And so he wasn't with his big brother state coming just from his imagination either.
And 20 years after Orwell's book, 1984, a guy called Dr.
Richard Day stood up in front of pediatricians in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, 1969, and told them how the world was going to change.
Written in my books, in one of them called Phantom Self, at some length what he said that night.
And if people read that, they will be shocked at how accurate he's been in saying what was coming, because there is this plan.
And so...
When I say I predicted this and I predicted that and I said this was coming, it's not to say, look how great I am.
It's to say, look, if I knew this, it wasn't random.
It's not random, is it? It was planned.
And if it's planned, someone planned it.
So look at the world from another point of view, that it's not all random events made by random people.
It's very coordinated.
Coming around very quickly to the question, because they have this timeline that they want to meet leading to the period around 2030, although I think that's been pulled forward a bit now, what they're also doing as they're pushing their agenda forward is they're having a look all the time at the world of the human population.
And they're assessing how much they are awakening to get closer and closer to seeing what's actually happening.
Because the whole foundation of this imposition of this plan has been to keep the public in ignorance of it.
But that's okay up to a point.
You know, you can manipulate under the radar and you can make things happen where people are not seeing it.
But what happened with the COVID hoax is that these people had to step into the room.
They had to put themselves on public display, at least some levels of them.
People like Gates and stuff.
And therefore, that was a big jolt for many, many people.
Who kind of went, what's happening?
And so once they've played their hand, and they have, they have to get into a situation where they can impose this control, not least technologically, before enough people wake up to intervene.
And so on one basis, You know, they are pushing this forward.
But they know also that more and more people are waking up to what they're doing.
And so they're trying to get this all locked in as fast as they can.
And that's why it's unfolding with such speed.
So basically you have started slowly answering another question I have on my short list.
Do you think that this so-called 1% is really, because we tend to think that this 1% is all powerful, they can do whatever the hell they want.
Do you think that they're really so much powerful they are terrified of being exposed and of losing their power?
What's your view on that? Well, yes, that's correct.
You see, when there's a few of you and you're manipulating the many, the massive many, then you are dependent completely for your ability to do that on the massive many not knowing what you're doing.
So secrecy, they'll call them secret societies for a bit of fun.
It's because they're holding secrets that they don't want the public to know.
And you talk about the 1%, it's actually, you know, the core of the core.
It's less than 1%.
What's it based on? Why do they call them the 1%?
It's control of money, basically.
That's the foundation. And, you know, a lot of people say, oh, they're just greedy and they just want more and more money.
Well... I don't believe so.
It's just about the money. They have a money printer, so it's not about the money.
No, it's true.
They're greedy. They're psychopathically greedy.
But that's not the foundation reason for controlling money.
It's to control the people.
Because if you look at it, what is freedom?
It's the ability to make choices.
The more choices you can make, the freer you are.
The fewer choices you can make, the less free you are.
And in the way that this society has been structured by this cult, Who has the money and who doesn't is dictating to a vast extent who has the choice and who doesn't.
So to control money and hoard it And stop people getting hold of it, is to control choice, which is simply to control freedom.
And they're now at the point where, in this COVID hoax, where they want to take this to still new levels of control.
The lockdowns have been instigated for one prime reason, and that's other offshoot reasons too, not these psychological reasons.
But the prime reason is to destroy the independent livelihoods of the population.
Because while the population has access to independent livelihoods, independent ability to live their lives and make their choices, then you have not got total control.
What you want is the entire human population dependent upon you.
And that dependency means control.
I mean, you know, You've got no other means of earning a living and surviving, except us now, because we've destroyed everything.
So if you want us to help you out with a bit of a pittance, then you're going to have to do what we say, otherwise you're not going to get it.
And this is the whole foundation of the lockdowns and destroying businesses.
This is systematic.
We're talking in Britain.
About on June the 21st, it all goes back to normal.
That's what a lot of people think.
Well, that so-called normality is not what's meant to happen.
It's not meant to go back.
But that little respite, which people take to be normality...
We'll be very short.
They're already preparing for future lockdowns through the end of August and into the autumn because they're talking about these variants.
Now, if you haven't got an original virus,...thing as an infectious virus if people look at the evidence.
And this SARS-CoV-2 has never been shown to exist by any scientific paper on Earth.
So if you haven't got the original, you can't have a variant.
They're all computer programs.
They just made them up.
But because people in great numbers still think the BBC is telling them the truth and ITV is telling them the truth and CNN is telling them the truth, They never hear this stuff because they're never going to get told by those sources.
And so they don't realize that these variants are just inventions, just like the original so-called virus is an invention.
And they don't realize that the PCR test, which is giving them all the cases when it tests positive, is not even testing for the virus.
I mean, as the creator of the test has said.
So Knowledge, understanding, access to information is vital, because if you don't do that, if you don't look at other ways of looking at this, and you only look at the mainstream media version, then you're just a sitting duck.
Oh, we've got a new variant out of India, and all this stuff goes on.
South Africa, Brazil, oh, there's another one now.
As many countries, as many variants.
Yeah, and people... You know, people have been in the system, like Michael Yeadon, Dr.
Michael Yeadon, who was a chief scientific advisor to Pfizer.
He has said publicly recently that these big pharma fake vaccine companies are already developing vaccines for variants.
So the variants don't exist.
And it's all an excuse to justify lockdown.
Oh, well, you know, the variants.
So it's not really working with the original vaccine.
So now you've got to have this one.
And so you justify lockdown.
You justify more and more genetically manipulating fake vaccines.
And this is what they're planning.
And, you know, anyone that's kind of followed this in any way can see it, that that's what's coming.
And so if anyone thinks that, you know, June 21st and it's all over, they've got a big, big shock coming because that's not what's planned.
The plan is to destroy completely human society as we've known it.
So literally it's called creative destruction.
You destroy the status quo.
And once the status quo is destroyed, then you can impose your new status quo, which is the world that you want to see.
This is what The Great Reset and Build Back Better is all about.
Total transformation of human society in a way that makes sci-fi films look mild, really.
And this is what we're looking at.
And if people go on Believing that this is temporary.
It's not meant to be temporary. There's one thing that's going to change this, or nothing is.
And that's us. And we better realise that and get off the fence.
Don't you think that we are a little bit in a trap right now?
Because on one hand...
Of course, we have to do something about it.
And there's no question.
But if we don't do anything, then they will impose this vision that's emerging.
But if we start riots against it, then George Soros will come out and say, hey, look, the government has failed.
The trust of people into government has been undermined.
So this solution is that it doesn't work.
And this is like... You know, while people are rioting against the government, it's like a perfect excuse to create the new world order.
So, we're like trapped on the both sides.
What do you think about it? Well, we're trapped if we think rioting is the way out of here.
We don't have to riot.
We don't have to even fight them.
We just have to stop cooperating with them.
It's so simple!
You know, it's like, okay, you have this briefing, you know, the These sinister blokes, Witte and Valance in Britain and Fauci in America, and they say, we've had this discussion, this is what's going to happen.
But if enough people say we're not doing it, mate, no, no, I'm not going to fight you, because I don't have to fight you.
I just have to stop cooperating with you.
And I don't cooperate.
I'm not going to do what you say. Now, if enough people do that, it's over.
See, this is the key thing.
One of the great foundations of this conspiracy of control is to persuade the target population of billions that a tiny handful, by comparison, have power over them.
It's a joke! Of course they don't!
It's just a perception, isn't it?
It's a perception. So what happens is...
What is acquiescence?
Acquiescence is conceding your power.
Acquiescence is conceding the foundation of human beings, which is self-respect.
You're conceding it.
You're giving your power away. So you acquiesce to authority.
Authority in and of itself has no power.
People can't have power over billions.
They can't. Without the cooperation of the billions.
So the billions hand their power away to authority, and then authority recycle that back against the population.
And at that point, in that part of the feedback loop, the population perceives that authority has power.
But hold on a minute.
It's your power that they're feeding back at you.
Not theirs. They don't have any.
You know, there was a...
There was a situation at the end of one of the London marches.
There's another one in London and other places around the country.
Finally! Finally those marches are happening.
Yeah, and I'm going to be at the one in London with my family on Saturday.
But At the end of the last one, a group of marches, when most of the other marches were gone, because the numbers were so massive, nothing the police could do.
They were just having a good time in Hyde Park and playing a bit of music and having a chat and all that stuff.
And the face nappies with their batons moved in, because they have to show how powerful they are.
And they started smacking people, as they do.
People without a brain tend to do that.
And what happened, you know, one or two people threw cans, which was a terrible thing to do, I mean, because it just hands the PR to the establishment.
But what the great majority of people did, because they had vastly greater numbers than the police, is they basically had a wall of people that just walked the police out of the park and the police turned around and started running away eventually.
And that's what we need to do.
We can't be passive.
And I don't mean be violent.
That's the last thing we need to do.
A, we should be coming from that.
Exactly. Anyway, but also, it hands all the aces to the establishment.
Oh, look at these violent rioters.
All we have to do is use our Use our numbers.
So, you know, there have been situations, not just that one.
On the London march before, there was a brutal thug in uniform, caught on film, very clearly, kicking a marcher on the ground and then stepping back and moving forward and hitting him again, you know, very brutally.
And what needs to happen in those situations from now on is that we make citizens arrests on these people, which is perfectly legal.
Perfectly legal. It's in the law.
And when people are being arrested for nothing, Then we have to stop that happening.
Not violently, but just using your numbers like those people did in Hyde Park.
Because, you know, we can't stand on the sidelines just shouting shame on you at the police, because they have no shame, otherwise they wouldn't be doing it.
Exactly. You know, the police who do have shame, they'll be wanting to get out.
A lot of them have. A decent old school copper who've been replaced by these automatons and psychopaths in vast numbers.
There's the whole dynamic between law enforcement and the public has changed.
We can't stand by and just let this happen anymore.
And, you know, you can't have a vast group of people letting a handful of face nappies in yellow shirts do what they bloody like to people.
It can't be allowed to happen.
Otherwise, we're just going to, you know, be shouting shame on you.
That's what happens. Into the concentration camps, you know, I mean, you know, we've got to stop being passive.
That's one of the things...
But not passive anymore.
That's one of the things that I'm always talking about in my podcasts.
I'm always saying to people, do not cooperate, do not wear a mask, do not do, do not follow, don't do this.
Because the more people is wearing the face masks...
The more they acquiesce into this crap.
I have never, ever, ever since this whole thing began, I never wore a face mask.
I never sanitized my hands because someone wants me to do that.
Let's just not do this.
Well, you see, what is the face mask?
Well, we could talk on this for hours, but it's a symbol of suppression, yes, but it's also potentially a symbol of freedom, because it is a very demonstrable thing that is very clear to see.
And so to wear it is submission.
To refuse to wear it is freedom.
So it's a symbol that can be used as a symbol of freedom.
If people simply refuse to wear it, I have worn a mask, I'll bloody die first.
Because it's obviously a, you know, I mean, show me there's a virus, but even if you believe in it, viral particles are far smaller than the holes in the mask, so they don't, you know, stop you.
Yeah, you know, having these particles come through the mask if you cough or sneeze.
And at the same time, it's affecting your respiratory system by not getting enough oxygen in and by breathing in your own carbon dioxide.
And it also affects the brain.
I read the study where they were, and the study has been made a few years ago before this COVID hoax, but they have been studying The way how the face masks are affecting the doctors making long-term operations, that the motorics and the perception of their ability to react has been slowed down.
So it's like a part of the mind control program.
Yeah, exactly. But, you know, people say, well, masks must work for surgeons wearing them.
But that's not to stop viral particles.
That's to stop much bigger, you know, spittle coming out.
Exactly, yeah. And also, the oxygen levels in an operating theatre are compensating for the effect of the mask.
So it's not like, you know, people wearing them all day if they're a shop worker, or in some other situation where they have to wear them all day.
I studied mind control for a long, long time, from 1996 right across the millennium and onwards.
And not least, I talked to a very large number of people who were survivors, many didn't survive, in the infamous US mind control operation called MKUltra, which was actually driven by many Nazis that were spirited out of Germany after the war under something called Operation Paperclip.
Like Joseph Mengele.
Joseph Mengele, the so-called angel of death in the concentration camps.
I say so-called, he was.
And he ended up in South America and indeed America.
Talked to a number of people who met Mengele, not least at a place called the China Lake Naval Weapons Station in the Mojave Desert in California, kind of northeast of Los Angeles.
I've been there myself and driven around it a couple of times.
Almost everything at the China Lake Naval Weapons Station is underground.
There's virtually nothing above ground, even though it's a vast area.
And so Mengele was operating in America and he was fundamentally involved in NK Ultra.
But where I'm going with this in terms of the masks is that part of NK Ultra was to make young children, even to the age of two, wear masks.
And it was to do with deleting their sense of self-identity.
And to deprive the brain of oxygen so it didn't develop as it normally would.
And we've had a neurologist in Britain, the German lady, who has come out and very vehemently pointed out the consequences for the development of particularly the young brain The brain of children and the brain of young people, which needs an enormous amount of oxygen because it's still developing.
And she's been very, very clear and, like I say, vehement on the consequences for brain development.
And so when you study this global cult and how it works, That is not an accident.
That's by design. And so on all these levels, the mask is part of this whole process of subjugating people psychologically, but also damaging them physically.
And the effect on the lungs, what will they call that?
COVID-19. But we have it.
As a symbol, that could be a symbol of freedom by saying, not wearing it, not having it.
It's a choice that people can make any time, you know?
And I've somehow got through the last more than a year.
You have, clearly, too, without putting a face nappy on.
I'll tell you how ludicrous it is.
I'll tell you how ludicrous it is and how this compartmentalization works.
You are having...
Police officers wearing these masks all day, every day, damaging their health, damaging their psychology, damaging their brain function.
And they're going round while that happens, telling everyone else that they have to.
In other words, I'm an idiot, so you must be an idiot like me.
No, thank you. I think I choose not to be an idiot.
Thank you very much. Very kind, but I choose not to.
And so, again, you see the system and you see authority, you see officialdom, the lower levels of it, that is just as ignorant about the existence of this cult and this agenda as anyone else.
And you see the population, and they're actually being controlled in the same way.
Because if you said to someone with a mask on in a shop, what have you got a mask on for?
Oh, well, it says I've got to.
So you then say to a police officer with his face nappy on, Why are you wearing a face nappy?
Well, because, you know, I'm told I have to.
See, it's the same thing.
It's all, whether it's the lower levels of the enforcers or it's the population in general, it's the same acquiescence to authority.
Yes sir, no sir.
Yes officer, no officer.
A good friend of mine, he's a Polish folk as well.
You see, we Polis have a lot of muscle memory in opposing fascism along the history.
But he's been going to the shop and he's all anti all this hoax.
And he went to Morrison's.
And the guy said to him, oh, where do you have a face mask?
Do you have a face mask? He said, no, I don't.
You have to wear a face mask.
And he said, I don't wear a face mask and I won't be wearing a face mask.
And the nappy guardian, you know, as we can call them now, he just looked at him and was like...
Okay, come on with me. And he thought, like, what's going to happen?
So he took him to the manager's office in Morrison's and gave him a leash, a green leash with sunflowers.
And he says, oh, there you go.
When you have that leash, you don't have to wear a face mask.
And he just let him go. But all the rest of the people have been just wearing face masks.
And he just said, no, I'm not having it.
Yeah, but, you know, you look at these laws that people are acquiescing to, And very few, if any, actually get prosecuted.
Because a lot of the so-called laws don't stand up.
But people think it's the law, so therefore they have to do it.
It's a guidance, isn't it?
You say, look, no, I'm not doing it.
And you can't make me do it.
You know, they start to fold because the whole thing is based on intimidation.
This whole cult works on intimidation.
And I've studied these people for 30 bloody years and so on.
And I understand their psychology.
And as we kind of indicated earlier, behind their all-powerful, look at me, I have the power omnipotence, they're frightened little boys and girls, frightened that...
Sometime, anytime, enough people are going to wake up and remove their little game.
Because they know that ignorance of the game is vital to success.
But also that the population will be intimidated by the authority they control.
And once you're not...
I mean, I've had these conversations many times over the years where some authority says, you're going to do this, you're going to do that.
And I say, I'm like, you're not going to do it.
I'm doing it. And it's like, well, they're not used to it.
They're not used to people saying not doing it.
They're used to people being intimidated and doing it.
So if only we would say no, the power of no is what's going to bring this down.
If it's going to come down, it's the power of no from the population that's going to do it.
Okay, no, I'm not doing it.
So what are you going to do now? Oh, and you know him?
He's not doing it. And her?
She's not doing it. And all those over there and all those over there, they're not doing it either.
So what are you going to do? And they're powerless.
You see these lovely cameo interactions, which I put a lot of them on the website, davidite.com, between the public.
People were not intimidated.
And the police.
And the police are losing that sense of superiority the moment the member of the public is not intimidated, because that's how they work.
And a lot of them don't even know the bloody law.
You know, members of the public have taken some of these guys to the cleaners in terms of knowing more about the law than they do.
So we've got to change the dynamic between authority has power, I have none.
And I have to be intimidated by authority and do what it says.
That's got to change because that's how we got where we are.
What are your predictions for next, let's say, up to 2030?
Do you think they will succeed?
There's been so many tries in history to rule the world and no one has ever succeeded.
What they have going for them now is technology, which previous efforts have not had.
This is the first time in human history that we know Where they've had the ability to go global.
And that ability is basically based on technology.
You know, without the internet, you would have a lot more compartmentalization of information.
Yes, the media has always been controlled.
I worked in the media for a long time in newspapers, radio and television.
And, you know, before 1990.
And, you know, There were limits that you couldn't cross because you just simply wouldn't get it on air or would get it in the paper.
But the limits were much wider than they are now.
Today, the limitation on what mainstream media can say, even if you have the odd journalist, and it will be the odd one, who actually wants to say it, it's so unbelievably narrow.
Journalism doesn't exist anymore.
It exists only in the alternative.
Because you have this global communication system now, it means that you can take that narrow band of what you can publish.
And you can make it global.
Whereas before, that global, that centralization of control wasn't quite the same.
You had little pockets where you didn't control.
And what's happened is the big corporations have bought more and more of the media until it's just like four or five corporations basically own the media.
And then crucially, Silicon Valley.
They're moving everything to the internet because they control the internet.
The internet was created on military technology.
There's one of the most sinister organizations on earth called DARPA, the technological development arm of the Pentagon, claims that it actually created the internet through military technology.
So they control it.
And you see, if you have a newspaper Operating in some kind of independence, then you can't have complete control of what goes into it.
But if you get everything on the internet, then you've got algorithms.
You've got algorithms that can control everything.
And where the algorithms are going, in fact, they're already there, but I mean, they want to go deeper into it, is that they won't even allow...
Unsupported by the system information to actually be posted.
That's where the algorithms are heading.
And people like Zuckerberg, psychopath, little boy in short trousers, doing what the cult tells him, has openly said that.
That's exactly the case.
I recorded a podcast on Saturday about the Big Brother.
The main theme was the Big Brother is watching you about this coalition, about content control.
And they don't allow me to boost it, and it's just being rejected.
Yeah, now this is the idea.
So what you do is you move all information communication, this is where it's going, very fast, onto the internet.
And then you use algorithms to control what can be seen on the internet.
It's been planned for a very, very long time.
And Silicon Valley is...
One of the kind of heart centers of this cult manipulation.
I'm very glad that you mentioned Silicon Valley because you're truly one of the few people that has been saying before, and I read in your books that the Silicon Valley is basically like a Pentagon arm.
It's like a CIA creation.
Can you say something more about that?
Because it's like a taboo.
People don't just assume it's happening.
Well, if you look at the background to people like Google and Facebook and all these others, they connect into the military intelligence community in terms of how they came about.
And this is basically the story.
If you introduce an internet that at the start has this level of censorship, It's never going to really take off.
Don't take off with some, but most people it won't take off because you're not going to accept this level of censorship.
If you started out with Facebook, with Twitter, And these others, and you had the level of censorship you have now, they would not have developed into what they've become.
That's true. So the scam, the phishing line out, was a free internet with no censorship, a free Facebook, no censorship, Twitter, no censorship, and so on.
The Google search engine was based on interest and not suppression to follow an agenda, which it is now.
And YouTube, owned by Google, was not censoring.
So that drew everyone in.
And so the companies and the internet in general became this depository of information and where people got their information from, exactly as planned.
But the plan all along was that once the internet was the central pillar of human society irreversibly, And once your Facebooks and your Twitters etc and your Googles and your YouTubes had reached a stage of near monopoly, then what they were planned to be from the start kicked in and they started the censorship.
And now it's become just hysterical.
the mildest criticism is suppressed and that they're now suppressing and banning people like
Donald Trump, even when he was president. It's unbelievable the scale it's gone to. The point
is though that that was always the plan. It's been a trap all along. And so, but on a positive
side of that. You know, necessity is the mother of invention.
And as they have been...
More and more censorious in suppressing information.
Other video platforms, other social media platforms have grown up, which don't censor.
And they are gathering apace.
So there's some really good things that's come out of this.
I mean, you know, on...
On the various video platforms, alternative video platforms, non-censored, that my videos go onto, the numbers collectively are right up there with what I used to get on YouTube.
Okay, if I was on YouTube now, they'd be bigger, but still, they are very, very considerable numbers.
And that's without touching the mainstream corporations.
So there's a lot of good things that are happening because we can see ourselves as victims.
Oh, no, I've been censored.
It's terrible. I'm such a victim.
Or you can say, okay, well, what are they doing by censoring me?
They're telling me I'm basically on the right track.
And therefore, how do we get around this?
And so that's what we do.
I mean, behind me is the iconic logo.
We have this... I'm a subscriber to Iconic.
I think it's absolutely wonderful.
It was created.
It's not been around very long.
It's grown so fast.
It was created, I think it was 2019, something like that, because we could see This censorship coming, it was obviously it was going to come, because it was just being ramped up all the time.
And so, you know, it's like an alternative version of Netflix, in a way, looking at all the great spectrum of alternative subjects from a completely different angle, with really expert, often mainstream people that have seen The mainstream is not the way to go.
And it's amazing what you can do if you won't give up and you won't take no for an answer.
Exactly. Like I said, I'm a subscriber to Iconic.
I remember it from the very start.
Now it's quite a huge number of content right now.
And I've been watching your almost 10-hour talk, which are always amazing.
But as I can see, our time is going to an end.
I have a question that's been asked to you quite often as well, David.
Where do we go from here?
Well, we decide that because we've always decided that.
Unfortunately, through known human history we have, from my perspective, continually made the wrong decision, which is to continue to Acquiesce to the impositions of authority.
And you take the consequences of that.
You know, life is ever so simple.
And not just life in this reality, but life in the greater reality.
It's just the same.
It's a very simple sequence of choice and consequence, choice and consequence, choice and consequence.
So you make choices.
Those choices lead to consequences.
If you like those choices or you like those consequences, you continue to make those choices.
If you don't like the consequences, you make different choices.
This is very simple.
And so we've constantly, as a human race, made the choice in the great majority of people through the ages to obey authority.
And we've taken the consequences.
And it's basically inevitable where it's going to lead eventually.
Which is to world control.
So we need to make different choices.
And if we do, we'll get different consequences.
And if people haven't learned the lesson of what happens when you give your power away since the turn of 2020, then I'm not sure they ever will.
So that's what we've got to do.
And where it goes, we decide.
Because if you look at human society, what is it?
It's the amalgamation of human behavior.
What is human behavior?
It comes from human perception, which leads to that behavior.
Everything comes down to perception in the end.
And... Where does perception come from?
From information received.
So you can see the sequence and you can see why they want to censor like crazy.
Information leads to perceptions and perception leads to behavior.
Collective behavior is human society.
So we change our perception, we change our behavior, we change our choices and we change human society.
And the cult cannot stop that process.
Unless we obey and acquiesce and stay with the same perceptions, thus the same behavior, thus the same human society or worse.
So we're in control.
We've always been in control.
We've just been kidded that we're not.
And, you know, I'm just going to keep doing what I do because I'm not...
I'm not stepping back and accepting this.
Like I say, I'll die first.
You're like a main hero of this theme.
That's one of the reasons why I joined in and started to talk to the people, just to spread the consciousness and spread awareness because it's so much important that people have information and they have a choice that they can realize that The consciousness really is the way, the conscious way of living, making decisions for themselves.
This is so much important.
Yeah, and it's also to realise that we're not What we think we are.
This is one of the key areas that this cult suppression wants to keep from the population.
It wants us to self-identify with our race, with our name, with our life story, with our religion, with our sexuality, whatever.
And it wants us to think that that's who we are.
And it's not. That's what we're experiencing in a brief, brief experience called human.
What we are is the consciousness, the eternal, infinitely exploring consciousness.
That is having the experience.
And once you expand your sense of self-identity out of what I call label consciousness, phantom self, into true self, and you come from the fact that you are the consciousness, that's what the I is, having the experience.
I can tell you from my own period of doing this, 30-odd years now, that everything changes.
And you re-identify, reassess your own sense of power and your own sense of controlling your own reality instead of having it externally controlled.
Because Perception becomes behaviour, behaviour becomes human society.
The question is, who controls perception?
Do we, as individuals, as points of attention within this infinite state of awareness, do we control our perception and thus control our behaviour and our experience?
Or do we allow those perceptions to be externally manipulated through programming and control of the media and all that stuff?
Because then we're still going to create our own reality, because our perceptions will still become our behavior, which will become our experience, which will become our consequence.
But someone else has intervened in that process.
So you're taking the consequences, but you're not forming the perceptions.
That took the consequences, or created the consequences, you're allowing an external force to create the perception, thus to dictate your life experience.
I mean, if you look at the last year, because the last year, everything has come into the open.
And people...
Meekly went into lockdown and house arrest because their perception was there was a deadly virus.
That's why people went under house arrest billions in the first lockdown period in the spring of 2020.
It's because their perception was, because they'd allowed it to be, that there was a deadly virus.
And that's a simple but classic example Of how if you control perception, you control experience via controlling behaviour.
And we've got to take control of our perceptions back, not just take them off the shelf because the BBC tells us what the government wants us to believe.
But make our own choices.
We assess the information.
And, you know, after 30 years of...
Of tracking this and investigating this.
If authority tells you something, then at the very, very least, it's not the whole truth.
And most of the time, it's not truth in any way, shape or form.
What they're telling you is not the truth.
It's what they want you to believe so that you will perceive and thus behave the way they want you to.
And it's taking this perception back.
And that is to say, okay, you want me to have this fake vaccine?
Okay, fine. But what I'm going to do is I'm going to research what this is all about.
Other ways of looking at it.
I'm going to look at what other people who are Experts in their field, but suppressed in the mainstream media what they're saying about it.
And then I'm going to conclude myself what I'm going to do.
And that's taking something back, which is crucial.
That's self-respect.
Self-respect is the foundation of human self-generated perception.
Because self-respect will not be told what to do by some dark suit or some guy in fancy dress and a yellow shirt and a face napper.
It won't. You know, what self-respect says is, okay, you want me to do this, explain why.
Okay, you persuade me that what you want me to do is something that I should do, and I'll do it.
But if you don't, I'm not going to do it.
That's what self-respect does.
And if you look at history, it's self-respect that overturns tyranny.
Because once self-respect is deleted, Then what's left is submission.
That's all that's left.
And self-respect is being targeted Mercilessly, because this cult knows that once that's gone, it's over.
And so, you know, these anal swabs for COVID in China, that's nothing to do with COVID bloody 19.
That's to do with destroying self-respect.
It's all about that.
Wearing a face nappy is destroying self-respect.
All these rules and regulations about destroying self-respect.
And once you especially When you acquiesce to these things, when you know that it's ridiculous, then you are absolutely conceding your self-respect when you do something knowing it's nonsense, but you do it anyway.
If you don't question anything, but just accept it and repeat it, then you have no self-respect, because that's not what self-respect does.
And so it's self-respect that's going to bring this down.
We must not concede it under any circumstances.
Otherwise, all that's left is people submitting to tyranny, and that means tyranny reigns and rules.
Let's hope it doesn't happen.
I, you know, my fingers are crossed and I believe, I truly, truly believe that because of the people like yourself and many others and maybe myself included, this trial of taking the world control won't happen Just as it's been among the history.
And I truly believe that it won't happen.
Because even though if they will try very, very hard to get the power into global control, to control the world, there's still like esoteric side of things that there has to be 50-50.
There cannot be only what they say.
There has to be balance. So the world cannot be out of balance.
It's just simple as that.
And I don't believe...
Yeah, if I go back to 1990, when the top of my head blew off and I was launched into all this, we'll have to maybe talk about it another time at more length, but let's say it was indicated to me that There was a transformation coming.
A transformation of human society which was going to awaken humanity from its coma.
And in many ways, you know, I mean, we look at negative events and we can see them only in a negative fashion.
This is bad.
But so many times, and certainly in my life, some of my greatest challenges have been my greatest gifts because of what it gave me.
And while we've had this horrific year, it's also been a catalyst to get vast numbers of people, and it is vast, off the fence.
You know, you can go along.
And you can live your life with what you might call background anxiety.
You've got this background anxiety, but it never gets so bad that you think you need to deal with it.
So it just goes on, it goes on, it goes on.
And then eventually some trauma happens.
And you have to deal with your emotional nature.
I had it. I had it.
And it's the same with this cult.
It's been like background anxiety.
It's been background manipulation in the peripheral vision while people have been focused with the five senses.
And what has happened?
And on that level, it basically could continue forever.
But what's happened because of the COVID hoax is that that background manipulation is now straight in front of our faces, and it has woken a lot of people up, negative as the consequences have been, which gives us the opportunity, maybe for the first time in human history, globally, certainly, To get this stuff out of the way so that we can go on and live a different life,
which is based on love and joy and knowing your self-identity, knowing the nature of reality, knowing how we are constantly creating our own reality, even if we don't realise we are.
And Kick this manipulation out of the door.
That's the opportunity that this is allowed.
So it's not just a...
A dangerous time for humanity.
It's a dangerous time for the cult, too, and it knows it.
So, you know, we're at the crossroads, there's no doubt about, or the fork in the road anyway, and we have to make some seriously different choices from here on.
So we go down the road of freedom and not down the road of tyranny.
I believe that will be the case.
David, thank you very, very much for your time.
Thank you very much for this opportunity and all the information that you have gave us.
I hope to see you again.
I hope to speak to you about the holographic reality and having much more esoteric talk.
Because many, many people are very much interested in this.
So let's keep our hearts, you know, and let's oppose the fascism.
Thank you very much for your time.
Thank you. It's been a great pleasure.
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