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Feb. 1, 2021 - David Icke
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The Great PCR Scam - David Icke Talks To Lou Collins
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♪♪♪ I'm delighted to have an old friend of the show,
and probably my favourite guest, and one of the most important guests,
Mr David Icke. How are you?
Hello, Lou. I'm good.
Good to speak to you. It's been a while.
Yeah, but there's a lot to talk about, of course.
There's a hell of a lot to talk about.
Firstly, congratulations on the London protests.
You had some numbers those days, those Sundays that you were there.
Yeah, I mean, it was about 35,000 and then something like 45,000.
It just shows the gathering numbers of people who are seeing that the world is not like they have always been told it is, i.e.
run by the people that appear to run it.
And they're also realizing that, as we've seen so clearly since the turn of 2020, There is a global agenda, not just a national agenda and People like Johnson and Hancock in Britain are just pawns of a much bigger picture.
The same network that Fauci in America is a pawn of, and Daniel Andrews, the fascist premier of Victorian Australia, is part of.
And so it goes on. There's the same network that Imperial College in London is part of, and Whitty and Valence and Professor Neil Ferguson are part of.
There is that awakening.
But, you know, protest is good.
It's important because it is a visual symbol of public feeling.
But what's going to bring this down is mass non-cooperation with it.
Because unless that happens, this is going to go on and it's going to get more extreme with every passing week.
Absolutely. I mean, I did say, I mean, I haven't worn a mask yet and I refuse.
I'm getting very twitchy about all this testing, testing, testing.
Myself and Debbie, who writes some of the articles, we do a nightly show and she's very concerned with regards to the testing because you don't need to do an invasive test like that, apparently.
You just need to spit in a bottle and it will give you the same results.
So why do they feel that they need to be shoving these great big sticks right up?
And apparently if you push it too far up, it could cause strokes.
Yeah, well, that's a good question.
But there's another one.
Why are people getting tested at all?
Yes! Because there's two levels, well, there's many levels, but there's two foundation levels to this whole hoax, because that's what it is.
Number one is the test called the RT-PCR test and this was created in the 1980s by a man called Kerry Mullis who said publicly and very vehemently this test cannot be used to diagnose infectious disease but it is being and therefore These so-called positives in these cases are not positives or cases at all because the test can't test for disease.
And on my website today, davidite.com, I posted a transcript of a German TV program which is exposing in great detail A man called Christian Drosten.
Christian Drosten is the virologist who in January 2020, right on cue, came out with what is claimed to be the COVID detection protocol for the PCR test, which cannot test for infectious disease.
And immediately the protocol of Drosten and a handful of others was peer reviewed in 24 hours.
In other words, it wasn't at all.
And then immediately after that, the Gates controlled World Health Organization, through his front man and mouthpiece, the Director General Ted Ross, said this test is what people need to use around the world to test people for COVID-19.
And that is the test overwhelmingly and the others like the lateral flow test are even more useless than the PCR test.
In fact they use this lateral flow test and then that if they got a positive that has to be confirmed by the PCR test which is not testing for a virus.
So this is how ludicrous it is and there is a prominent lawyer who In Germany, who is taking both Ted Ross and Drosten to court for crimes against humanity for the catastrophe that they have fundamentally played a part in creating.
So they're getting the cases from a test that's not testing for the virus.
And the deaths are coming by anyone who has a positive test with a test not testing for the virus and dies within 28 days.
In fact, it's often more than that.
Of any other cause, hit by a bus, falling down the stairs, motorcycle accident, late advanced cancer, terminal heart disease, doesn't matter.
COVID-19 will go on the death certificate and will go on the number of COVID deaths.
So when you look at the number of tests and the number of deaths, that is an absolute fiction fact.
Just like the virus itself, which has never been isolated and shown to exist, and in fact is a computer-generated fiction.
And so the mutants, the variants, are more computer-generated fictions because you can't have a mutant variant of something you've never shown to exist.
So the PCR test is the foundation of the scam, and so is this.
You know that because you've not got a real virus, that the vast majority who test positive with a test not testing for the virus are not going to have any symptoms.
Some people have symptoms.
Why? Because for the same reason that flu has disappeared worldwide with flu-like symptoms.
What are the symptoms of COVID-19?
Flu-like because it's been redesignated COVID-19.
And so you know that the vast majority of people are not going to have symptoms.
So what the hell can we do here?
Because our agenda is to lock down all the countries to destroy the independent livelihoods and independent businesses and employment of the population.
So they become utterly dependent and thus under the total control of the state, which is actually just a front for a global cult that I've been exposing for 30 years.
So what do we do?
How do we get people who have no symptoms?
How do we justify them going under house arrest?
Ah! Got it!
What we'll do is we'll say that people with no symptoms but still test positive with a test not testing for the virus can pass it on to other people.
And they're the two foundations of this scam that...
And if people would just lift their eyes from the BBC and CNN and all these other propagandists and liars, then they might have a chance of seeing what's actually happening instead of what they've been programmed to believe is happening.
I mean, it's amazing. The virus doesn't go to the Amazon warehouse, but it will do when your little green grocer, who's been there for the last 50 years, It might come for him there, but not in the Amazon warehouses.
Well, this is the point, Lou.
It's such a clever virus.
I've been saying since the spring, since March, early April, there is no virus.
And I got massive pushback, of course, from most of the, if not the vast overwhelming majority of the alternative media.
Because they were talking about there being a bioweapon released by the Wuhan lab in China.
But the point is, if you are releasing a genuine bioweapon, then first of all, where are the dead people?
Why do you have to manipulate the figures on such extraordinary level?
Why do you have to have a fake test?
For something that actually exists and will do its work without any help from you manipulating figures.
And I would say this, the bioweapon is not the virus, which has never been isolated and shown to exist.
It is the vaccine.
And the virus hoax has been played to justify the vaccine, the bioweapon, the DNA-manipulating infiltrator of human genetics.
And, you know, if you don't have a real virus, just the illusion of one, it's fantastic if you're Wanting to manipulate the population because you are no longer limited to what your infectious agent is actually doing.
You can make it appear to do whatever you bloody like.
So we go back to the PCR test.
Again, I've been saying this since the spring.
Of 2020. The PCR test works by taking an infinitesimal amount of genetic material, not a virus, genetic material from the body.
And that genetic material contains many things that are natural to the body.
It contains debris from other illnesses that are still dormant and around in the body.
And what they have to do It's what they call amplify the specimen, the genetic material.
And in simple terms, it means in effect blowing it up.
And the more you amplify it, The more material in that specimen will be picked up by the test and it will ping positive.
So even those that believe that the PCR test is relevant, even though its inventor said it's not to what it's being used for, people like the Absolute mega crook, Antony Fauci in America.
They say publicly that if you amplify the material in the PCR test more than 35 times, Then it's a waste of time because everything above that is going to be a fake positive.
I say they're 100% fake positives, but even he's admitting that over 35 cycles of amplification, you get 100% fake positives.
Now, the National Health Service, in an internal document, says that they're using 45 cycles.
Of amplification. And some of these tests use 50 cycles of amplification.
I mean, as someone said, you could make a stone test positive at 50 cycles, at 45 cycles.
Now, so when a positive test comes back, With the test not testing for the virus, do doctors say, well, hold on a minute, what was the amplification that decided this is a positive test?
It's never asked. What about the media?
Have they ever said, well, you know, what's the amplification they're using for this test?
None of it! So you're having all these fake tests, and people need to ask this.
I understand it, fair enough, because it appears to be not the case, but it is, I would strongly suggest, never more so more convinced than now.
If you have a genuine...
Infectious agent or a bioweapon, according to much of the alternative media, why do you need to use amplifications in a test, not testing for the virus, on a level that even the mainstream, say, of medicine will give you 100% false positives?
So what they're doing, this is the scam, What Tedros, the Gates mouthpiece, said at the World Health Organization very early on in this, very early on, is one of the ways to deal with this crisis, non-crisis, is test, test, test.
And you've got Hancock in this country.
Test, test, test. And they're increasing the tests.
More and more people being tested.
They want people to be tested before they can go to work and all this stuff.
Now, they know, these psychopathic criminals, that the more they test with a test not testing for the virus, the more fake positives they're going to get at those levels of amplification.
And they're not test positive for a virus, but genetic material that's naturally in the body.
And so you have this scam on this extraordinary level.
And if you have a real infectious agent, you don't need to do any of that.
But they do because there isn't.
And the other thing is that, you know, I say to people, you know, even in the alternative arena, who still says, say, there's a virus.
Okay. What's the percentage of fatalities in relation to alleged infections?
Let's take the PCR test to be accurate.
It's not, but let's take it for argument's sake.
So the percentage that go from infection, alleged, to fatality is absolutely tiny.
And if you go below 70 years of age or something, it's almost infinitesimal, okay?
Now, so you've got those tiny number of percentage deaths compared with alleged infections.
And then, you know, people with an alternative outlook who's done a bit of research of their own will see the overwhelming evidence, it's in your face, that COVID-19 is being put on death certificates, When people are dying of other things, like the flu, and like other, you know, endless other things, not even related to respiratory disease.
It's cured the flu.
Yeah, of course it has. It's cured the flu, it's cured pneumonia, it's cured pleurisy, it's going to probably end up curing asthma as well.
Yeah, but okay, let's finish this point with this.
So, take all those fake death certificates and That are part of this tiny percentage that are said to die in relation to infection.
Take these fake death certificates, which are absolutely massive in number.
Take them from that percentage of people said to die after infection.
And what are you left with?
You're left with sweet bugger all.
That's the level of the scam.
And as the Nazis said, the bigger the lie, the more we'll believe it.
Yeah, exactly. Exactly.
You mentioned Wuhan there.
Now, there were rumours, I don't know if you know any more than what I do, but there were rumours that also in Wuhan there was an adrenochrome laboratory.
Have you heard that?
Well, I've heard that.
But the thing is that...
To understand the way this has been played is to understand how this global network, which I call the global cult that operates in every country, how it operates and where its major centers of control are.
It operates as like a spider's web with a spider at the centre.
And the web plays out the gender coming from the spider.
And there are certain areas of the world, Britain is absolutely one of them, where there are particular centres.
For this web and its manipulation.
And another one, big time, massive, along with Israel, by the way, is China.
And so the fact that this hoax came out of China is no surprise whatsoever.
And it will come with diversionary cover stories to get people who won't buy the original or the official narrative to take them off in tangents as well.
So to understand China is to understand that this cult was behind the Mao Revolution and it created an insular China with basically a wall around it of utter control because it has spent the time since the Mao Revolution incubating within China The control system, not least based on technology, that it wants to play out right across the world.
So they played this virus hoax in China.
And they said that people had this new virus.
They never isolated the virus to show that it actually exists.
They never isolated its genetic code from a natural state.
It's all computer generated.
And people were falling down in the streets and these pictures were going all over the world.
Well, I'm not seeing anybody fall down in the street in the West, but you've got to frighten people.
Now, the whole basis of the plan was to make the Chinese reaction the blueprint for the rest of the world.
So you had the absolutely draconian lockdown response in China, which Tedros, the Gates mouthpiece and the cult mouthpiece, said should be the blueprint for the rest of the world in how they react.
So as they moved it across and replaced the flu with a new name, COVID-19, they reacted to it in the same way as China.
And what has happened as a result of this, the Chinese system of control is being played out across the West, justified by this COVID hoax.
Now, this is an interesting point as well, ironic, but very relevant.
How did they decide...
That this virus was a new virus in China.
They used the PCR test.
That's been involved from the very start.
So they decided that this virus existed by using a test that doesn't test for infectious disease or an infectious virus, as they call it.
And so what was happening, if you remember, is that China was building hospitals in 10 days, claiming to.
And then very quickly afterwards, after the thing had been moved into the West and the lockdowns were started, these rapidly built hospitals to meet the virus catastrophe were dismantled.
And suddenly, while the West was locked down under house arrest, in Wuhan it was party time.
And you saw pictures of thousands of people having pool parties and rock concerts in Wuhan.
And, you know, you look at now what's happening in China.
The Chinese government's ambition all along since Hong Kong was, quote, handed back has been to take fierce control of Hong Kong and finish with any vestige of democracy.
And what they've done now is saying, oh, the cases are going up in Hong Kong, so we must have fierce lockdown imposed upon the people of Hong Kong.
Does anyone think that fierce lockdown is ever going to be rolled back?
No chance. To impose an agenda of total global fascist control, communism, call it what you like, same bloody tyranny, that's been, in my books for 30 years, what was planned. You look at every aspect of it.
In 1993, I first said in a book, there's a plan to get rid of all cash and only have an electronic single world currency.
What did Ted Ross say?
Immediately after this started in China, you can catch the virus from money, and so it's best to use credit cards, etc.
And what has happened?
Use of cash has absolutely plummeted across the world, exactly as the agenda requires.
So this is what it's all about.
You want to control the population by tracking them 24-7 and imposing your will on them.
You want to break a long-time freedom in this country that the authorities can't go into your house without permission or a warrant to justify it.
All these things they want rid of and all these things they're using this hoax to justify.
Yes, they are. We were told about it and I think we were told about it at the London Olympics and I think you and I actually did a show about two days after it and we were talking about the symbology and everything else and where are we today?
We're like literally living in that opening or closing ceremony.
You know, we had Boris Johnson, there was the baby, the nurses, the dancing NHS. Yeah, it was the opening ceremony.
And that was always going to be a symbolism fest, because that's how they work.
So what this is, in its base foundation, which is why they don't need a real infectious agent, is it's a psychological...
It's a war on the human psyche.
The masks are obviously nothing to do with health, because even if you believe in a virus, the holes in the masks are bigger than the viral particles.
And if you sneeze or cough, they're going to come through.
But there's two reasons for the masks and what they want to do.
They're going to incrementally increase the number of places where masks are mandatory until they have mandatory masks in the street.
And so it's two things.
First of all, it's psychology, because wearing a mask is a symbol of submission.
It's a symbol of dehumanization.
It's literally making you faceless.
And it's a symbol of control.
And it's a symbol of everyone looking the same and acting the same.
And when you look at the mind control manipulation of this, and let's not forget, the police are wearing these face nappies in their work now, and they're going to get the same effect as shop workers and all these other people.
Who have to wear them all day, every day.
And there's not been a single risk assessment by government, by the police, by supermarkets, none of them, to see what the dangers are of enforcing long-term or regular mask wearing.
But I got a call last...
Well, actually, she sent me an article, which I posted on davidlight.com today.
Kathy O'Brien, who is a famous survivor of the MKUltra mind control Network, you know, program in America.
And she contacted me a few months ago.
She talks about it in this article as well.
And she said, I just want to tell you that my daughter, and her daughter's Kelly, someone I've met a number of times.
And Kelly was born into MKUltra.
She was in captivity from birth because her mother was born in, gave birth while in MKUltra.
And she said, my daughter was forced to wear a mask From the age of two as part of the programming, because A, it dehumanized her and deleted her sense of individuality, but also, and this is crucial, it reduced the amount of oxygen that her brain was able to absorb, and thus that helped the mind control manipulation.
So then you look at what these masks do to health and via the brain to psychology.
And they have you breathing in your own carbon dioxide, which your body is trying to expel.
Carbon dioxide is wonderful for the natural world, but not for humans.
We have a symbiotic relationship where we breathe out what the natural world wants and we breathe in oxygen, which the natural world helps to generate.
So it's a brilliant symbiotic relationship.
But you break that cycle, so you're breathing in carbon dioxide, and you're going to have what?
Respiratory problems. What are they going to call that?
COVID-19.
And you're also not breathing in enough oxygen.
And as one neurologist said, we're going to see if this continues.
Young people today are starting to get signs of dementia in their 20s and 30s.
Because their brain is being deprived of oxygen at a crucial time when it's still developing and requires a lot of oxygen.
And the other thing is that toxins are building up all the time in these masks and they are against the face and the mouth and the nose.
And we've had these terrible rashes on the faces of children because of that.
And there was a A video that was posted on the website about maybe a week ago, and it was a doctor in America making an impassioned plea for people to take their masks off because he said, they're killing you.
And he told the story of a four year old boy, one of his patients, who the night before had been rushed to hospital with a respiratory infection that almost killed him, which was diagnosed by the hospital As being the result of long term mask wearing.
And this is what we're doing.
And, you know, if I say to people, if you don't care about yourself and the effect on yourself, then at least care about the effect on your kids of not getting informed about what's actually going on and why.
David, I'd like to just touch on the inauguration.
I mentioned the Olympics because we were prepared.
We watched this great big event go off and now we're living it.
And then I remember another one of our shows we did, you advised us all to have a look at the Hunger Games when it first came out all those years ago.
And I think we watched that last week.
Don't you? What were your thoughts on that absolute spectacle?
Well, the inauguration was a joke.
It was another form of perceptual manipulation.
They had 26,000 troops in Washington and there was no threat whatsoever.
But what's been played on people over the last few years, and I've done a video on this, which is on the website now, and it will upset a lot of people, I'm sure.
But that's never been a criteria for me saying what I believe to be true and what I've seen to be true over 30 years.
And that is that QAnon Is a PSYOP. And when it first came out, I was shaking my head at what they were saying because I'd heard it so many times before over 30 years under different names and different guises, but exactly the same situation.
And what's happened is that right at the point Of the Biden inauguration, when he's coming to power, and this will be the most extreme American regime in history.
It will be.
It's already showing so.
The imposition, for instance, of allowing men into women's toilets and stuff like that, you know, physical men into women's toilets and allowing them to basically take part in women's sport and thus destroy it for women.
So we're looking at massive extremes that are coming with the Biden regime.
And just as that comes in, The pushbackers, as I call it, have been led into a situation where they are now able to be mercilessly demonized by the very force they are pushbacking on.
And it's not only Trump supporters that have been demonized in this situation, in this sting.
It's anyone who's pushing back.
So they're justifying more and more censorship.
And we see nothing yet on the basis of of what happened on Capitol Hill, which in terms of violence and destruction was not even in the same class.
As the BLM riots all across America in the summer.
But it doesn't matter because truth doesn't matter.
Consequence doesn't matter.
Context doesn't matter. What matters is you're selling an agenda.
So now after four years of Trump and the QAnon, you have pushbackers absolutely on the back foot.
In terms of being targeted and demonised by the government of Biden and others, because it will be coming here.
I have no fear about that.
And, you know, the whole thing's been a scam.
And, you know, I've said in this...
I have support.
I am following it.
I've been following Q since the time.
And I'm holding my hands up there.
I'm fully invested in it.
I'm fully watching it play out.
And I've said... If by February, this 30 so-called days, it's like, I'm going to come out and I'm going to completely hold my hands up, you know, that I was completely wrong, shoot me down now.
But I have been following it from...
But here we had...
And you're right, it is a sign of genius.
Here we had... Well, I could see it, because I've seen it before.
Only the name changed about three or four times over the last 30 years.
Exactly the same thing's been played.
The only difference with this one is that it was much bigger and much more high profile.
And so what these psyops that are all the same are saying to people is basically there's a plan.
Trust the plan. It's all going to work out because you don't really have to do anything because you just do what we say in effect.
But you don't have to really do anything because there's a plan.
And another theme, another constant theme of these recurring situations is it's just like a cult, like a death cult, whereby you give a date for the end of the world, and when it doesn't happen, you just project the date a bit further forward.
And so right at the end, like days before and less, We're still being told through QAnon and people that believe in it that Trump's still going to be president and Biden's going to be taken down.
Well, it was never going to happen.
There have been papers registered.
There have been papers just to set up this This Patriot Party, I think they were set up two days ago, but that doesn't say that it's going to take over, but there has been a new Patriot Party registered.
Starting another party, well, I mean, where's that going to lead?
And, you know, starting another party, fair enough, not a problem.
But Trump's gone.
And Biden has now come in a total empty shell, a total criminal, and a deeply, deeply dark entity who is simply going to be the vehicle he already is being for transforming and destroying what's left of what we used to call America and what we used to call freedom.
But when the 26,000 troops came, Which was simply a vaudeville show to give the impression that there is this insurrection when actually when people that were filming in Washington, there was nobody there.
Never mind needing 26,000 troops.
So the 26,000 troops were a vaudeville show and they're keeping a lot of them till at least March, at least March they say.
Well, at the same time that was playing out, I was seeing people who were supporting what was coming out of QAnon, that somehow these 26,000 troops were part of the plan.
And they were part of getting Trump to be reinstalled as president.
I mean, it's bizarre.
And what this is founded on, and my God, this has got to end if we're going to get anywhere, is people have got to stop falling for the saviour complex.
Yeah. People have given their power away to religion.
They've given their power away to kings, queens, warlords, dark suit politicians, bureaucrats and technocrats.
And people who reject giving their power to those people instead give their power to QAnon and Donald Trump.
We've got to look in the mirror to see where the power is and not sit around waiting for a saviour to turn up.
It's not coming.
We are that, quote, saviour.
As Gandhi said, we are the people we've been waiting for.
And if we sit on our arse waiting for some external group or entity to save us, Deleted of freedom.
Yeah. I mean, just from my point of view, it did actually make me research more and look into things a lot more, even though, you know, Brian schooled me very well in regards to looking at research.
But I didn't find it so much as a saviour.
It was just almost...
I don't know.
I don't know. I don't know how to explain it.
I mean, I didn't realise. I knew there was a Q team around JFK. But I've just kind of followed that.
I mean, I was looking more at the whole show I wanted to discuss with you.
The whole, was there kind of a ritual?
You had Lady Gaga there dressed up as whatever her name was.
You know, the master of sentiment is Lady at the Hunger Games.
Even the clothes. Jill Biden seemed to manage, miraculously put on about four pounds.
between going up a flight of stairs and coming down and Hillary's hair seemed to grow an awful lot within a few minutes and Huma Aberdeen we noticed was also in one of the photos Yeah, well, I mean, everything they do is ritualistic because what do rituals do?
They speak to the subconscious. And all the time they are playing out conscious and subconscious, overwhelmingly subconscious programming to affect the perceptions of the population.
This is why this whole COVID hoax is not being driven in terms of government advisors by
even medical professionals, most of which have bought the lie anyway, and they know
the consequences for their careers of not buying it.
But it's being driven by psychologists like Susan Mikey, this psychologist who pressed
for mandatory masks, who now says lockdowns have to get more severe.
What, excuse me, you're not even a bloody doctor, lady.
You're a psychologist and by the way, a member of the British Communist Party.
But what, how these scams work, and every one of them is the same.
QAnon is just the latest.
I call it gin and tonic with a twist.
Good disinformation is never all untrue.
It's not. In fact, the majority of it is true because savvy people will see if it's all nonsense.
What you're trying to do is capture people by telling them what they know to be true and then twisting it and directing it off towards the edge of the cliff, which is what's happened in the last week or so in relation to the demonization of Trump supporters.
But of course, it's not just Trump supporters.
They are widening this, that anyone that is pressing back against the Official narrative is also being demonized and being a conspiracy theorist, even if you don't support Trump like me, you're in there as well.
And it's been a trap.
It's been a trap, which some of us could see coming for a long time.
But here you go.
It's being played out. But they have to tell you a lot of things you know to be true.
Well, they won't pull you in. And then they twist it.
And again and again, you have, this is going to happen, this is going to happen, this is going to happen, but it never does.
And, you know, it's...
Well, I'm putting myself out on the line.
I'm going to give it to the beginning of February and then I will happily eat humble pie to everyone and like, okay...
So what do they say is going to happen between now and February then?
Between now and February, the military are going to end up taking over and that's why the military are there.
The military has already been signed over with the footballs being handed to the military.
The football was actually handed to the military and the military are fully in control.
So what do you think? Well, hold on a second.
There were 26,000 troops at the time at the inauguration.
A hell of a lot of them have gone.
There's still thousands there till March.
I think there's 22.
I had it up a minute ago because they've just said they're going to stay there until the beginning of March.
I haven't got the opportunity.
So who's making that decision now?
Biden is president. I don't think he is president.
It's not Trump, is it?
Clearly. It's not Trump.
It's whoever's around it.
I don't know. These six, ten military...
Who knows? I haven't got all the answers.
All we do know...
Well, we don't know.
We don't know at all. But apparently it was handed over to...
High people within the military.
That's what they say.
I've heard it many times.
I haven't gone and made any big deal about it.
Now, troops on the streets is a very different thing.
I've been predicting that for a very long time.
That's coming, the military-police fusion.
But the point is that this global cult, one of its big centres of control is the Pentagon.
Through organizations like DARPA, the technological development arm of the Pentagon that basically controls on behalf of others at Silicon Valley.
So the Pentagon would have to make the decision on the troops.
And it's controlled by the cult.
It always has been since way, way back.
It's interesting. Did you see the troops turn their back?
Yeah. As that all went round.
Well, I saw some of that, yes.
But the point being that you've got to be very, very careful.
I mean, you know, very streetwise.
The military taking over, yes, is part of the cult plan.
Right? What they're saying is that they're just taking over Washington because they're trying to bring down the cabal.
But the cabal controls the Pentagon, which is dictating where the troops go on behalf of the political level of this.
So, you know, it's like the...
The poacher is going to, you know, save the livestock.
I mean, it makes no real sense, but we've got to be careful again here on another gin and tonic with a twist, which is the appearance, possibly, Of the military becoming more and more dominant and it being played out as if this is the plan when actually the military taking over is part of the cult operation.
It's a psychological game and thus we have to be absolutely aware of the psychology and the way that we're manipulated to believe something's happening when the opposite is actually happening.
I agree with you on that.
What do you think of Lin Wood?
I don't know. I don't know much about him.
He's said a number of things, not least in Georgia, which would have been best left not said if you wanted to get Republicans in.
And those Republicans not getting in, of course, have given...
The Democrats, which is just like the Republican Party, but even more so, is just an arm of the cult.
It's allowed them to have basically control of the whole of government, the White House, the House, the Senate.
So I don't know much about him.
He said stuff that he knows that Epstein is definitely alive, therefore...
Yeah, but...
Okay, so... I just wondered what your thoughts...
So produce the evidence.
I don't know if he's alive or not.
They sometimes, if someone's really high up and useful to them, they will fake the death.
And sometimes, if they're not, then they will literally kill them if it's expedient to what's going on not being exposed by them going to court.
So it could be either.
But, you know, when we're faced with extremes of fascism now, Around the world.
Whether Epstein's alive or dead goes down in my priorities.
There are other things that need addressing far more urgently, which is people ceasing to cooperate with their enslavement in a number that will make the enslavement unenforceable.
And every day we don't do that, it gets more and more difficult as the structure of control gets more and more locked in and in place.
So what's your plans next?
Is it going to be more books while you're all locked up?
Well, I've just started writing a book, yeah, about how to see through the lies, how to look at the world from another angle and then you see what's really going on as opposed to what you're told is going on.
Basically how to filter information.
So that you don't buy the program, but you see beyond it.
But every day, I work seven days a week bashing out information.
And, you know, after 30 years of this, you become a lot more phlegmatic.
You know, you can't do more than your best.
It's impossible. Impossible.
So you do... You really have done your bit over the years, David.
You just, I mean, from back then to now, it's just...
It must be incredible.
You must, like, sit back and, like, whoa, like, look back at how it all started all those years ago.
Well, you know...
And your family must be, like, extremely proud of everything you've done and how many people you've woken up.
It's just... I could sit here in current circumstances and be incredibly frustrated as I've been ridiculed, laughed at and abused for something that's turned out to be true.
But that would not help me and it would not help anybody.
So you become phlegmatic.
You do your best, absolutely, seven days a week.
And what happens, happens.
Because the more you frustrated you get and the more fearful you get about where things are going the more it debilitates you and you know we don't need debilitated people pushing back we need strong determined people pushing back because that's what's that's what's going to change it and you know there is an old an old song from the 60s which goes freedom is just another word for nothing left to lose and when the When the furlough payments end and people realize that they have been literally funded to the edge of the cliff because We've got that great reset to look forward to, haven't we? When that time comes, it's going to be very, very much more difficult to deny what's actually happening.
And freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose.
People think you've got something to lose.
They will live their lives and keep their heads down and avoid upsetting anything or anyone in a way that maybe would lead to them losing what they think they have to lose.
Because your home's gone, your income's gone, your job's gone, then there is nothing left to lose.
And if people don't then start pushing back and ceasing to cooperate in vast numbers, then we're almost passing the point of no return.
But I will leave this world still Still pushing against it because I have children and grandchildren and the world that they are supposed to live in is absolutely bloody unthinkable.
David, thank you so much for sparing your valuable time to come back on again.
I really hope you can catch up soon and I hope I'll pray something happens before March or even the end of the beginning of February.
Be very wary of the military taking over anything.
I will do, David. I always follow your advice.
I always do.
You helped me no end. All those many moons ago, when you came to Plymouth, you had a go at me about giving energy to those trolls that have stayed with me forever.
When anyone starts moaning about trolls, that's like the repeatable advice you gave me that day.
Don't feed them.
Well, don't feed them.
And, you know, so what's this...
And you know you're over target.
What's this troll said about me?
Oh, my God, that's outrageous.
That's ridiculous. That's not true.
Oh, my God. Well, so why are you getting hit up about some prat writing ridiculous things about you?
He's a prat, OK? Leave him to it.
What's it matter? I was trying to put it nicely, but, yeah.
That's how he said it.
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