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Coming up, Debbie and I here for our Friday Roundup, and we got a bunch of stuff to talk about, including crime in Washington, DC.
Who decided that Gill and Maxwell should go to a minimum security prison in Texas?
The feud between Cuomo and Mom Dani?
A clash between Ambassador Mike Huckabee and CBS News and a whole bunch of other stuff.
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Music by Ben Thede Debbie and I are all set to do some Friday roundup.
And just before we got started, I mentioned to you, I'm like, well, we've just done some grandparent duty, should we cover that?
And you're like, let's not overdo it.
People are going to say, What the heck?
Because there are people, it is true, that we meet.
And what they do is they pull out their wallet and they want to give you their grandchildren's names and ages.
And what they do.
And this one did, you know, scratch his head for the first time.
This guy's going potty for the first time.
And you're like, do I really need to know all this information?
So we don't want to fall into that trap.
Yeah.
That being said, that's not good.
Let's not let that one stop us, right?
Yeah.
Well, what I think what's significant is just that that we have now two.
Yeah.
And, um, and Danielle, you know, has her hands full with little Winston.
Uh, and so very often you and I get Marigold and who's now two?
And, uh, and she is a ball of energy.
And she's coming up with the, the cutest sayingings.
Oh, yeah.
And she also got, you were saying, you know, she's got a pretty vivid imagination and good memory.
She's got good memory and she loves to sing, which is so much fun.
Well, yeah, because you're the musical talent around here.
And so you guys do your rhymes together and she really gets into it.
In fact, she has all kinds of gestures and Oh, yeah.
And hand signals and so on.
Not to mention the fact that you then position her up on the chair and she plays the piano with her two fingers.
Right?
Testing out all the keys.
So it's fun.
It was fun, but we were just also commenting and you were saying, By the end of the day, it kinda knocks you out.
Well, we were we took care of her for what, like three days?
Yeah.
Just about.
Just about three days.
And boy, I said, can we do this for a whole week?
And you're like, no.
Well, not in a stretch, right?
Because Yeah.
Well, you know, when I was, when I was in my thirties, I guess I had Julianna when I was 34.
And I was tired then, you know?
So you can imagine here, almost 60, how I feel.
It's like There's a really funny picture of you.
And you have Justin and Julianna at both sides of you and you are lying flat on your back, like, I'm done.
I'm out.
I've been, you know.
Yeah, she was a toddler and he was like six and, um, oh yeah.
It was one of those my mom took that photo because I was on the floor and I was just like, oh, I've had it.
Yeah, that was that look on my face.
And so, yeah, you can imagine now, you know, but, uh, and then little Winston, I love carrying him and burping him.
And, oh my goodness.
He's well, he's, you know, generally when you're a newborn, you're a little bit on the generic side.
All babies are.
But right about this time, which is three to four months months, your facial features are starting to get chiseled out and you begin to take on a distinctive look.
So you're no longer the generic brand.
You're now, you know, Winston and you can be, uh, in the same way that Marigold is a full-blown personality, uh, Winston has.
And they seem to be temperamentally quite different.
They they are, but, um, well, we shall see.
We shall see how that, we shall see how that develops.
Okay, let's talk about what's going on in the news.
And let's start with this whole issue of DC crime.
Now, I have to say, the whole thing for me is highly entertaining because the Democrats are falling into a big trap here and their trap is crime is not so bad.
The crime is we want to keep our rates of crime.
Our crime rates are down and we're happy with where we are and so you don't need to send any troops, you don't need to send any National Guard.
We're yeah.
We've got this already under control.
Can you believe it?
Meanwhile, I mean, I quoted this yesterday.
Just a couple years ago they put out guidelines on like how to avoid being car jacked and my favorite was always drive in the middle lane.
Presumably because you could be pulled over forcibly if you're in one of the side lanes.
Drive in the middle lane.
And then all kinds of other tips about keeping your car locked and always have the windows up so nobody can reach into your car.
And the point I made was why would you be circulating all this if it wasn't happening?
Well, so the ABC News reporter, let's see, what's her name?
She was Cara Phillips.
Yeah, Cara Phillips.
some half dressed, homeless person jumped her, you know?
And so she's like, we're all experiencing this firsthand.
Now, I don't know, is she mad about the crime rate?
Yeah, I think what happened is she was she was working off a script about the crime rate and I think, you know, she got a little nerved by all this happy talk from all these pundits.
And by the way, most of these journalist pundits don't live in DC.
The custom in DC is really for white people not to live in DC.
That's why they say DC is a black city, but if you go to DC in the middle of the day, it's not a black city.
In fact, it looks more like a white city.
So how is this possible?
The answer is the blacks live in DC and the whites live in Maryland and Virginia.
So the whites communicate in and some in Georgetown, which is almost like it's not even part of DC because it's right near the key bridge leading right into Roslin.
The point being that these white pundits, they kind of drive into DC, they go into a covered parking lot, they take the elevator to their office, and then at six PM they get in their car and they leave DC.
So they're not exposed unless they're going for their three martini lunch and get accosted, which is not likely in the middle of the day.
But yeah, you can walk in DC at night.
You can walk alone.
Yeah, true.
All residents of DC, particularly old people, know this.
Yes.
And the Democrats know it too.
So this is what makes it so disingenuous.
But I think we're in a way they're falling into this trap where they become the defenders of violent crime.
And they are running athwart the wishes of the people.
If you were to ask an ordinary DC resident, hey, would you feel safer if every time you walk in the street there was a cop standing over there?
You think they'd say yes?
I would hope so.
I can't I can't imagine that people are that deranged, you know, that they have that bad of Trump derangement syndrome that they would even be willing to forego their own safety just to make a point.
Yeah, I agree.
And I don't think the people who are saying this are foregoing their own safety.
These are people by the way whose own safety is pretty well secured.
Look at this guy.
I don't know if you've heard of him.
He's this Indian guy and he has a shock of white hair pointed straight upward.
His name is Anand Girandas.
And he's on like MSNBC.
I can't say no, I don't watch M MSNBC.
Anyway, so you have this guy, you know, this I mean, truly kind of a freak of nature, but you have this guy, and he's like, I don't care what the crime rate in DC is.
I'm not doing the Indian accent here, but I'm just giving the effect.
He goes, Because I'm far more concerned about issues like climate change.
So if someone says that, you know, first of all, what is he worried about with climate change?
Is he worried about like his apartment in DC is going to be flooded because the ocean, there's no ocean in DC.
Is he, is he afraid that the sun will get so hot that he will turn jet black?
Or that his hair might turn bla black.
Or that his hair might get scalded, you know, due to global warming.
Who knows?
But this is, these are, there's one writer who uses the term luxury beliefs.
And by luxury beliefs what he means is these are beliefs that have no real impact on you that you are entitled to have because you don't have any real problems.
They're like, they're the kind of beliefs that, like, for example, if some guy, for instance, is living in a gated community, they've got a personal bodyguard, they're like, crime is not a problem, luxury belief.
Because you have the luxury of being able to say that.
Yeah.
Any other ordinary guy doesn't have that kind of luxury.
Yeah.
So I think Trump is going to do well with this issue.
Let's talk about Gillen Maxwell since we're talking about crime and we're talking about prison.
So Gillen Maxwell got moved.
Yeah.
From her high security prison to a minimum security prison in the Texas in Brian, Texas.
In Brian, Texas.
And all of this occurred without any apparent reason given.
And you were saying, what gives like what's up, right?
What?
So your point is.
What did she do to deserve this improved treatment?
I'd like to know.
I'd also like to know why it's so secretive.
What's going on?
Yeah, so let's summarize what we do know.
And that is Todd Blanche, the deputy attorney general, has an interview with her, which is apparently like eight hours long and it's transcribed.
So evidently she agreed to sit down for this interview.
Now she's not forced to do that.
She's in Jip prison.
She can say, hey, listen, I'm already being paid, being punished for my crimes.
I'm not obliged to sit down.
So my guess is that her lawyers negotiated.
And they said, okay, look., she's got valuable information.
It could be very useful to you.
And we realize you can't let her out of prison, but you can improve her conditions.
I think that's what happened here.
In theory, now, of course, it's not the DOJ, it's the Bureau of Prisons that makes these kinds of decisions, but the Bureau of Prisons answers to the DOJ.
To the DOJ.
So I think that's what's going on with Gill and Maxwell.
Now, interestingly, this Epstein issue has, I think, lost a lot of its passionate fervor.
You remember just a few weeks ago, people were out of control.
I mean, they were going nuts.
They were even turning against Trump.
They were like, we don't care if the whole MAGA agenda goes down because we demand to know the truth about Epstein.
But I think a lot of these people were whipped up into a frenzy.
Yeah.
And that's a good way to say it.
Yeah.
And they also had certain premises that were untested, right?
Epstein is an intelligence asset.
Could be, but we don't really know that he is.
Epstein is being controlled by Mossad.
Possible, but there's not a shred of evidence to say that he is.
Epstein has got something on Trump.
There's absolutely no evidence that this is the case either.
Trump must be himself a pedophile.
There's no evidence to that effect.
In fact, there's no reason to even believe it.
And we know that much of the stuff that we've heard about Trump has been made up in this regard.
So this is, I think, one of the weaknesses of kind of MAGA, you know, hysteria.
And that is it becomes untethered and becomes unconnected to a base of actual knowledge.
And then because you're so worked up, you think.
You think that anyone who's not giving you information must be holding it.
Now, again, I can kind of understand how these habits develop because we have been lied to by so many institutions and agencies that people are on the edge, and maybe rightly so.
And there are things we want to know about Epstein.
It's not as if we feel satisfied that Epstein killed himself.
He did not.
Nor are we satisfied.
How do we know that though?
Well, here's what we do know.
Here's Epstein.
He's in his cell.
As you know, according to his brother, he's about to file an appeal.
The brother says he's very got a reason to want to wait, right?
Not only that, but he's in this prison cell and the surveillance cameras are somehow not working or turned off, highly suspicious.
Now, if the cameras get turned off, no problem because you have guards, but the guards were not on the scene.
The guards were either somewhere else or they were reassigned or they're taking a siesta.
So put these factors together and now you're reaching a very high degree of improbability.
That's my reasoning.
Do I know for a fact?
You know, but if you ask me to put $100 one way or the other, I'm going to bet that he that Eps that the little hashtag Epstein didn't kill himself.
Yeah, but interesting though that recently Cash Patel and Dan Bonjino both said that he did kill himself, that he did commit suicide.
Yes, but they did say that and then they go, there's a video.
Now that's the video that was released.
But the video that was released, first of all, it had a critical 60-second scene missing.
That's part number one.
The second thing is the video is not directly pointed inside Epstein's cell.
It is a video from the vicinity.
You can see what's going on.
I guess what they're saying is, hey, if someone like in a cloak and dagger came sneaking in.
Yeah, all the funny memes came out of it, right?
Yeah.
Where they put Hillary Clinton.
Hillary Clinton sneaking in or even Epstein sneaking out, right?
You saw the one where Epstein makes it out the back door.
He jumps into a truck.
Yeah.
Takes some Epstein killed himself.
A black SUV.
Yeah.
But the point is, I do not think that video definitively establishes that he killed himself.
Yeah.
So they're using that as the basis.
I think that is unsatisfactory.
Flawed, yeah.
Yeah, flawed to be sure.
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Let's move on to the New York mayoral race Cuomo Momdani.
Now, interestingly, I was talking about this this week on my local's QA.
I do it every Tuesday at eight o'clock and you know more people should know check into that because it's a fun way to interact one on one.
Normally you listen to a podcast, you can hear me talk, but you can't ask me questions, you can't weigh in yourself.
This is a way to make sure you weigh in.
I see it, I respond to you, my name.
We can go a little even back and forth.
And I do this for thirty minutes on Tuesday.
Anyway, on Locals, you know, we were talking about and I was saying it would be kind of nice if the three rivals to Mandani consolidated to one.
And most likely, I think Curtis Leewa is the weakest of the three, but that would leave Cuomo and Adam.
And I said, look, it doesn't matter which one it is, it needs to be one of them.
But a lot of people waited and they were, they're still very furious at Cuomo.
Yeah.
For all those people he killed in the nursing home.
Yeah.
And they were like, this guy's a criminal.
We don't want.
It's almost like they were saying, we'll take MomDani over.
Yeah.
So that just lets you know that there's a lot of ill feeling.
Very bad, very, very bad.
And it doesn't look like Adams has support, right?
Well, you know what's happening is right now, MomDani's going three ways.
So there is a way to beat Mamdani, but it's not going to be that easy because think about it, if the other two drop out, it doesn't mean that all their votes will go to the other guy.
Some of those guys may vote for Mamdani.
I'm afraid if the other two drop out and it's just Cuomo, that Cuomo obviously, I think he'll lose.
You think he'll lose?
I think he will.
Yeah.
So in other words, you're saying that even the anti Mamdani people don't like Cuomo, which is what became evident on my Locals channel.
So that's interesting.
That suggests to me that maybe Adams is the strongest.
What was it that we were watching?, we were, oh, we were watching the Son of Sam 48 hour special.
Right.
And they were talking about how bad New York was in the 70s, in the early 70s.
And I was like, whoa, I didn't realize it was that bad.
Right.
And I saw fire bombings and buildings blowing up.
Some Puerto Rican gangs would, like, bomb buildings.
Yeah.
There was a there was a Puerto Rican terrorist gang.
Yeah.
We know going back now, this is to the 60s that our, that our, I won't say friend, but Bill Ayres was, they were bombing the.
The Weather Underground was doing its stuff.
So it was a combination of street violence, gang violence, mafia violence, serial killer, all happening in New York at the same time.
This was the, I mean, it's the opposite of the heyday of New York, right?
This is like the low point.
This is what will it, what I was saying is, will it go back to that?
It very well could.
You know, there's something that George Will, George Will is, for many people, a symptom of like boomer decadence, but George Will with his bow tie was recently quoted as saying, I he says, I hope Mom Donnie wins.
And the interviewer was like, you're supposed to be a conservative.
And Georgiou was like, precisely.
I hope that Mom Dani wins because every generation we need to have a laboratory of socialism so it can fail miserably.
And every one can see in every other city can see, hey, listen, we don't really want to be going in that direction.
So it's almost like he's willing to sacrifice New York.
Yes.
To make an example.
Now, New York is, look, it's the big apple.
It's the center of capitalism in the United States, maybe in the world.
I don't exactly want to see New York go socialist.
Well, and I think New York will not just go socialist.
Socialist, New York will also go Islamic.
Well, there's that factor too.
Very Islamic.
Now I saw a couple of people interviewed on the street, and I don't know if I've mentioned this to you, but there was one young woman, and she was saying, I'm going to vote for Mom Dani.
And then the interviewer was like, Well, are you a socialist?
She goes, No.
And then they asked her, Well, why are you voting for Mom Dani?
He's a socialist.
And she goes, Well, listen, he's just one guy.
It's not like this guy, who cares if he's the mayor.
One person cannot change the complexion of a whole country.
Which is what.
Yeah.
So she was voting for Mom Dani almost like, I like some things about him.
See, one of the things that Mom Dani has done, no, I think we have to acknowledge this is that he does put his finger on some real problems.
Like Obama did.
As Obama did, right.
But with Donald Towney, there are tons of people who work in New York, right?
Most of them cannot afford to live in New York.
Why?
It's very tightly congested in Manhattan.
No surprise, supply and demand prices are really high.
Now ironically, rent control drives those prices higher because it freezes rents in certain apartments and takes those apartments in effect off the market.
But the truth of it is people are struggling to pay rent.
also tends to go up pretty dramatically in places that are not rent controlled.
So the net effect of all this is that people are feeling the pinch.
And Mom Dani comes in and goes, I will freeze the rent.
People go, well, that would help.
So even though people, you can explain to them that this system doesn't really work, it's like saying the system doesn't really work, but someone wants to put $100 in your pocket.
And you're like, I think I'll take the $100.
Right?
Isn't that what's driving that?
I mean, that's what happened.
Isn't that why people voted for Hugo Chavez?
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
And then once it became a hellhole, they couldn't get out of it.
So, I mean, sometimes dead is better, if you get my drift.
Better red than dead.
Right?
Well, I'm quoting from Pet Cemetery.
You know, they brought the dead back to life and they were such monsters that one of the characters said, you know, sometimes dead is better.
You know, and so anyway, that's where I get it from.
Yeah.
Well, we'll see what happens with Mom Dani.
He's the other thing the guy has going for him, like Obama, is he's got also social media savvy.
He makes these kind of charisma, he does.
videos.
Yeah.
And he also has a very natural style on the street.
In other words, he doesn't look like he's, you know, sometimes you see these politicians.
Well, you and I were watching this morning and we were really laughing at Schumer, right?
And this is Schumer.
And by the way, John Oliver has excerpted through Schumer's whole career.
He claims to have based his politics on this couple called the Baileys, right?
He's given these Baileys an elaborate storyline, right?
They have certain habits.
They like certain foods.
They vote a certain number.
They vote a certain way.
And he's talked about them over many years, except they don't exist.
There are no such people.
And yet he goes, I gotta, you know, I gotta tell you that George Bailey voted for Trump, but, you know, his wife, you know, Nancy voted for Hillary, and so this is a made up and yet Schumer acts like these are real people because he acts like he knows them, he's talked to them, they confide in him.
I can't tell if this is like some type of fantasy that he engages in or if he's off his rocker.
Both.
I mean, ironically, John Oliver was doing the critique of Schumer from the left.
Yeah.
Right?
I think what he was trying to say is it's time for Schumer to go.
Yeah.
Schumer is out of it.
Yeah.
But I thought the portrayal was so devastating where instead of picking a normal family in New York or Long Island and telling their story and maybe using it to illustrate issues that you as a politician are dealing with, he makes the whole thing up.
And they're a center- right couple.
And according to John Oliver, Schumer is using them as an excuse to lean right.
Except you are like, Schumer never votes right.
Yeah, no.
So what kind of indictment is this of Schumer when his behavior doesn't correspond to the doctrines being espoused by the Baileys, which supposedly are the center of his.
And it's his alter ego, that's kind of weird because he doesn't go with it, you know?
Yeah.
But the reason I brought him up is because he's a contrast with Mom Dani.
I mean, Schumer is so wooden, you know, when he sticks his hand out to greet you, it's almost like his hand is straight out, which is kind of fake.
You must have remembered that thing where Schumer took Viveki.
took videos of himself cooking a hot dog or cooking a hamburger.
He quite clearly has no idea what he's doing.
He's standing at the grill and people are like, nobody grills a burger that way, right?
It's this is freakishly inauthentic.
Well, Mumdani is the opposite.
Mumdani is like, he's funny, he's he's got comical gestures, he knows how to put people at ease.
So he's a politically kind of gifted guy.
And that's maybe part of how he came from being a complete nobody to becoming a contender.
Let's talk about Islam.
I had Robert Spencer and you got to tell a little bit little bit of the backstory here because people don't really know it.
So when I did my book The Enemy at Home, this is going back to about two thousand six or seven, I made a key distinction between the radical Muslims and what I called the traditional Muslims.
And I made the argument that conservative just because I made the argument that the liberals and the left are allying with the radical Muslims.
And I said, hey, conservatives shouldn't bash Islam.
Conservatives should look for ways to ally with the traditional Muslims against the radical Muslims.
And of course, Spencer at that time, I'm not sure if he has the same view today, but his view, like your view, is more generically critical of Islam than mine.
And so Spencer and I were invited, I think it was CPAC, where we did a pretty fiery debate against each other.
And it was a debate in which I have to say the audience was probably more with Spencer.
I'm sure.
They would have been booing you.
Yeah, well, particularly in the aftermath of 911.
Yeah.
And in fact, at that time, Spencer and others, he was not alone.
were ridiculing the idea that there are two types of Muslims or the idea, because remember, a lot of people had been using a model drawn from the political scientist Samuel Huntington, the clash of civilizations.
It is us or the good guys, the West versus them.
And I was like, you know what?
There's no us.
The us is in fact two rival camps.
And this rival camp, the left, is going to find more common cause with radical Islam than with us.
They will use the Muslims as a battering ram against us.
came up in my conversation now with Spencer.
In any event, so Spencer and I, not that we had any personal acrimony, but I think Spencer thought that I was just a little too friendly to the Muslim.
And so when we got married, which is now almost ten years ago, Spencer was like, Debbie, you need to straighten Dinesh out, right?
You need to show him the light.
And because I met Spencer even before I met you, actually.
Because I was very involved with the David Horowitz Foundation.
You know, like whenever he would do a conference, I had him come speak at at our club and so so i was very involved in all that and and that's how i met him and so he was very excited because he knew that i was going to work on you you know so but but no you know robert actually is he does agree with you actually on that point but what what we both what robert and i both agree on is that Many
times what happens is that the good Muslims don't really understand the Quran.
But see, I find that a very peculiar thing to say because here's why.
We're not Muslim.
Our understanding of someone else's holy book is bound to be external and therefore not really understanding something from the inside.
True, but I have studied people that were Muslim that do have that inside perspective.
Like, for example, Amasab, you know, the son of Hamas.
Yeah.
Who do have that perspective?
And they themselves say that to be a good Muslim.
You have to adhere to jihad.
But honey, I mean, look, honestly, like we know and we have come across, in fact, we know a number of people who have, for example, become atheists.
These are people raised in the church, they would tell you the same thing about Christianity.
I discovered that Christianity is very authoritarian, and so I've decided to become a sceptic and an agnostic or an atheist, right?
Now, again, it's not that we won't listen to such people, but we cannot consider them to be true and authentic interpreters of the Bible just because they broke with it, right?
I think the way you have to look at any mainstream view.
Well, no, I don't agree with you because I don't I think you always try to make the analogy of the Christian and the Jew with the Muslim and there's just no comparison.
Well, I'm actually making a point that doesn't even have to do with religion at all.
Let's look at an example of what I mean.
If somebody were to say, for instance, that Marxists think this, right?
And all the Marxists sayxists say because they are the experts on what they believe, right?
So, and the other thing I would do is I would look at their conduct because I would say Bingo.
Okay.
Look at their conduct.
Look at their conduct.
Let's look at their conduct.
There are two and a half billion Muslims in the world.
How many of them have engaged in any conduct you object to?
Probably about two hundred million.
Okay, so one in ten.
But that's still a tiny minority.
Even if it's two hundred million, I don't agree it's two hundred million, but let's say it's two hundred million.
One in ten is actually not a very big number, to be honest.
I mean, it's a big number numerically.
Yeah, it's a big number.
But it's not a big number.
Almost the size of America.
I mean, think about it.
It's a big number numerically, but look, I mean, what I'm saying is that if you have any system of belief, let's just say, for example, conservatives, let's take Christians, and I'm going to use a different context, not to make a direct comparison of Christianity or Islam, but somebody were to say one in ten Christians spouses, husbands or wives, cheat on their husbands.
Probably quite true, maybe even higher, right?
We would not say Christianity is discredited because after all, one in ten people who profess to live by this creed clearly don't live by its precepts.
So my point being that if the vast majority of people don't fit the description, it's a little unfair to tag the whole belief system with it, precisely when you know that this is a fallibility in human nature and there are people who are not Christian who are who do it, and there are some people who are Christian who do it as well.
Same with Islam is that you're going to find that, and I agree that not there is a militant streak in Islam.
There is radical Islam.
For me, that's the crux of the matter is the fact that it's such a, even if it's a such a damaging militant behavior that doesn't coincide with our principle with our Judeo Christian principles at all.
Yeah, I mean, or even civilized principles around the world.
We just saw we just saw the case with Washington versus Ali and Ali.
I mean, look what happened there.
Obviously the jury was either Christian, atheist, whatever.
There were probably no Muslims in that jury.
They didn't understand Islam.
They didn't understand honor killings.
Therefore, they dismissed what it actually was.
was and treated it like any other corporal punishment, you know, just gone off the deep end corporal punishment, you know, like he went a little too far, But not, not, they didn't understand that, you know what, that is what they believe.
He would have killed her, maybe not in public, but he would have killed her at home because he did not want her to be with this other boy.
He wanted her to marry the man he wanted her to marry.
No, I do think in that case it is wrong that the judge did not allow the jury to consider this.
It's wrong, but it's but it makes sense because she doesn't understand Islam like so many people don't.
Right, but could it be now this is not what happened in the case, but could it be that I as a juror, I see what happened and I've seen the video, same as you, he jumps on his daughter, he's choking her, right?
And yet because you can't see and obviously you don't know his motives, you don't know if he's actually trying to kill her, right?
He could be so furious that he's like, I'm going to drag you home and I'm going to teach you a lesson.
Now, here's the point.
Obviously, if the daughter vanishes tomorrow and nobody knows where she is and we have to go looking for her body.
then he will have carried out that threat.
But he did threaten her.
He did threaten her.
So that's kind of where I'm getting to.
Yeah, and I guess what I'm saying is the jurors should have been able to consider the combination of the cultural background of honor killing, the threat, and what they saw him doing, and then make a decision, a factual decision, does what you saw on that video constitute attempted murder?
And you're saying quite clearly you think it did.
I'm not so sure, but we agree on the criteria by which that should have been decided.
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Let's talk about what's the deal?
You have to tell me about this Huckabee and CBS.
What are they?
Well, I have the article there.
I think I got it.
Let me pull it up.
But basically what happened, what CBS did what CBS always does, right?
Right.
selectively edited what he said on Israel.
Okay, trying to make it trying to like yes, trying.
Well, you know, so he was, well, he criticized CBS News because they edited the recent interview with him, conveying a different message than the one he expressed in his conversation, right?
So in other words, they were trying to make him more they were trying to make it look more like he was pro Hamas, basically.
Oh, in fact, let's put it this way.
You and I were even somewhat taken in by this because if you remember several days ago, we were talking about the fact that we were like, is Hakabe going to publicly criticize the Israeli government for persecuting Christians?
We were like, you know, we've been to Israel, the you know, it's a Jewish state.
But on the other hand, there are Christians in Israel, they have religious freedom.
We visited innumerable churches in Israel.
There's the Church of the Holy Sepulchre, the putative site of the crucifixion, there's the Church of the Anunciation.
So we were a little baffled at what the vibes we were getting from the media about Huckabee, but now it turns out Huckabee's saying, hey, listen, you misrepresented me.
Yeah, well, this might be a different interview altogether.
This might not even be What is he talking about in this interview?
In this interview, he's talking about the people dying or suffering in Gaza.
Oh, right.
So not the Christians.
Yeah.
But so he basically said in the full exchange, he said, Hamas made half a billion dollars last year, fifty million US dollars stealing food, selling it on the black market.
market in order to finance their activities.
That's stunning.
That's a real business they have.
They put it in their warehouses.
Yes, there have been some just regular population who are looting the trucks.
So he's talking about that, you know, hey, people are helping the power.
It's coming in.
It's being accepted.
And so anyway, I think this Pata woman said, you know, that later on Pata claims that every single day there are people dying near the GHF sites.
And then Huckabee retorts, tell me about the people dying at the GHF sites in what way?
And then so you have no reports of anybody being killed, you know, near the sites?
And then he says, no, we've had reports that there have been incidences.
He goes, but forgive me if I'm a little skeptical and someone says there have been people killed there, I'm getting reports every day from them, every single day.
If I would hear that, I assure you we'd be interested in getting the details.
So what's happening is that this person is spewing propaganda and she's trying to trap Huckabee into agreeing with me.
It's so hard to get accurate information on the ground about these things.
And I say that because, well, Time Magazine recently had a cover story on suffering in Gaza.
Now, in order to put this on the cover, they have their, Time always has a kind of a spectacular cover photo, right?
Yeah, that also talks about that as well.
So what turns out, you have these guys who come with their pots and pans to get food at these aid centers.
And evidently what Time Magazine does, and we know this because there are other people who got it on their phones the time magazine photographer stages a photo with all these people And he's picking the ones that look the most pathetic.
And what he's doing is having them all stick out their empty bowls.
So what's interesting is that they're in line to get food.
He doesn't wait for them to get food.
Obviously, he doesn't want to show bowls with food.
That'll defeat the whole purpose of the article.
The whole purpose of the article is we have no food.
So everybody's bowl has to be empty, right?
And he's probably out there.
I mean, I can only envision this, but I can envision, listen, guys, you know, on the count of three, I mean, all of you put on your most sad faces, your most hungry faces, like rattle your empty bowls.
So and then these photos are then blared.
across the world.
Not to say that there are no people who are hungry or have to stand in line or have an empty bowl, but you have to realize that the facts on the ground, which is I'm hungry, I have a bowl, I have to wait in line, maybe I wait for three hours, I then get some food, is all compressed into the image of pathetic, seemingly starving child.
And also, as you know, in the case of the New York Times, they chose that kid who had a genetic deformity.
That's right.
And they acted like he was maleducated.
But he looked really, he looked the part.
He looked the part.
So why not?
That was the key.
Yeah, so basically, and then the other thing is they went into the Israel is committing genocide.
And of course, Huckabee was like, really?
He's committing, he goes, they could, Israel could have carpet bombed Gaza on October 8th.
And at very little cost to itself.
Yes.
And in fact, it would be very difficult to criticize Israel for doing that in response to the attack.
Exactly, but they didn't do that.
They did not do that.
I wish they had actually.
I personally think they should have.
Well, I mean, they have they take they risk additional casualties by going in there.
You told me, in fact, One of the guys was on our film team.
They have to use dogs and they lost all these dogs.
They get blown up by these devices, right?
And mines and all these planted bombs and so on.
Let's talk about Taka Carlson, this latest interview that he did.
What was her name?
Mother Agape or Mother Well, now Agape, of course, is a Christian term that means love.
Mother love.
It's probably not her real name.
Oh.
It's but it could be a spiritual name that she's taken on.
She seems to be in the monastic orders and she is, yeah, she's a nun and it was a at first, you know, that guy Amy Kozak, the comedian.
Yeah, the comedian.
He does these impersonations of Tucker that are really funny because he's he like nails it, right?
So when I saw that, I thought it was a spoof.
I thought Well, the reason it looks like a spoof, I mean, let's just be kind of candid.
You've got this extremely weird looking, I mean, she looks like a man.
I was going to say, and granted that a nun is not going to be someone who's obsessed with appearance, but this woman has basically, I would call it, the mustache of like a sick man.
It's a moustache of like a 17-year-old boy who has never shaved.
You know what I mean?
It's just like it's there and it's kind of full-blown.
But the whole but but her whole face looked like a man and not just the moustache.
Because there are women with moustaches.
Right.
But you know, I and I could I could understand if it's a woman with a moustache, but this looked like a real man.
And when you showed me the sound like a real man.
It was a grand feed.
I was looking down it and you had to laugh out loud because so many people were commenting and of course in social media people are very candid.
They just say what they think.
Oh my gosh.
They were like, oh my gosh.
You know, basically, well, I'll get it.
I basically pull out the, you know, the the chic five razor package because I can't concentrate on what this woman is saying.
Yeah.
Because she's so strange looking.
Yeah.
But I think that what she was saying is even stranger than her appearance.
Oh, because she was acting like there is Christian freedom in the Muslim territories and not in Israel.
Yeah.
Absurd.
And yeah, not to mention that she said that because I think Tucker, Tucker showed the clip of him and Ted Cruz talking about Israel.
Right.
And she says that Christian Zionism is the bad thing, you know, that because we believe that Israel is God's land, Israel's inhabitants are God's people, the Jews, the original inhabitants of Israel, that somehow our Christianity is not valid, that only her Christianity is valid.
So the way that she went about it, I think, is very duplicitous, right?
Because this is basically what she argues.
She goes, I really think this Christian Zionism is an heresy.
And quite frankly, you and I had never even heard the term Christian Zionism.
I'm like, Christian Zionism.
Okay, I'm like, tell us what it is, right?
So we'll know if we're against it or for it or even part of it or and then she goes, these are people who believe that I think she made some allusion to the rapture.
And then she made some allusion to dispensational theology, a thousand year reign.
And she goes, there's no thousand year reign.
We're living in the thousand year reign.
And here she's getting into the argument over biblical apocalypticism, which is to say, you know, the pre mil-millennials, the post-millennials, what the book of Revelation really means.
And I think quite honestly that the book of Revelation is veiled for a reason.
In other words, it's obscure because it's intended to be obscure.
We're not supposed to be able to tease it out like it's self evident what's going to happen.
And we do know that there are groups, evangelical groups that don't agree on the end times.
Oh, no, there are.
What does that have to do with our support with Israel?
No, exactly.
So what I'm saying is she's conflating a base concept of Christianity, which is the fact that the Old Testament and the New are continuous.
The new does not repudiate the old.
The new covenant replaces the old, but the New Testament doesn't replace the old.
Not only that, I think it was, it might have been Pope, it's either Pope John Paul II or Pope Benedict.
And I'm saying this because I'm now answering a nun.
So I'm moving away from the evangelical theology into straight out hardcore Catholic theology, which, as you know, I was raised in with Catholic catechism.
And the point is this, I think it was Benedict, the most intellectual, by the way, and learned of our popes probably in the last century.
And Benedict goes that it is the holy land for everyone, but it is the promised land for the Jews.
Now, let's reflect on that for a minute, because that is what this mustache woman is calling Christian Zionism.
It's not Christian Zionism.
It's straight out Christianity.
Exactly.
Yeah.
That's the absurdity of that.
That was really strange.
And then one more, one last thing that I saw this morning from, I think it was a Fox and Friends little clip with this woman named Jennifer Welch.
Yeah.
From Bravo, you know the channel Bravo.
Okay.
And she was going on and on about how Trump she's sick and tired of Trump supporters going to Mexican restaurants, going to Indian restaurants, going to Chinese restaurants, and having a gay hairdresser because Oh my gosh, I think we're guilty on all counts.
And I'm like, I'm like, okay, first of all, have you I mean, I don't have a gay hairdresser, but I think do you?
No.
Oh, you don't.
Okay.
Well.
So anyway, so the funny thing is that, I mean, look, Trump has gay men in his cabinet, right?
So what I mean is, has this woman seen Trump supporter?
Has she gone to the Rio Grande Valley and seen all the Mexicans that love and adore Trump?
I mean, it's like first and foremost.
No, this is a frozen stereotypical view of the right.
And to some degree, you could get away with it in like 2004.
Because I remember, for example, I would go and speak at GOP events and people would say, look at all the white people in the audience.
And the audience was predominantly white.
And it's true if you go even further back to the Reagan years, I would, it was actually quite uncommon to see a black guy at a Republican event.
And usually if, usually if you did, the black guy was like wearing a bow tie.
Yeah.
You know, he was a professor of economics at like George Mason University, but what you wouldn't see is a black guy who's like an electrician.
Yeah.
Or a black guy.
Working class.
Working class guy, an ordinary guy, but we see that now all the time.
All the time.
So really, she is, she's antiquated, basically.
She is looking at the old, maybe the old GOP, I don't know.
She is in a time where we're not.
She's in a time warp.
And she doesn't actually realize that these days it's flipped.
And by that, I mean, if you look at some of these demonstrations against Trump, it's by a large white liberals.
Older boomers.
Yeah.
Right?
And they're like, I'm not saying they have walkers and stuff like that, but they all look somewhat feeble.
Yeah.
Right?
It's almost like, it's almost like, this is a place where people should go to, like, advertise for cemetery plots, you know, or go advertise for, like, discount burial rates or even like, this is where you get your Medicare.
Yeah.
And also predominantly white.
That's right.
Well, liberals have now become predominantly white.
Yeah.
And the Trump coalition?
It's pretty, pretty diverse.
Pretty diverse.
And it's this, you know, these liberals really that are the issue.
I mean, look, and then Jimmy Kimmel lately, he's moving to Italy, by the way, because he can't stand America now that Trump's in, you know, president.
So to Jimmy Kimmel, I say, ciao.
And Georgia Maloney goes, I'm ready for him.
Right?
Oh, that's right walking, he's going from one Trumpster to another.
Awesome.
Awesome.
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