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Did I say what birthday it is, honey?
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Yeah, you've never actually been bashful about saying how old you are, I've noticed.
No, no. 58. 58.
58 years old, but...
Honey, I must say, you have beaten the relentless march of time.
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That's true. It is true that no matter how much you can camouflage time in public, your public presentation, inwardly you do feel it, right?
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Oh, yeah. Debbie goes, last year at about this time, I think we were kind of at our peak weight, to be honest, and we were not feeling too good about it.
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I mean, and that's the key.
All right, guys. I want to talk today about this business with Fannie Willis and her alleged romantic partner.
This guy named, I guess it's Wade.
He's a special prosecutor in the Georgia case, prosecuting Trump and prosecuting the other defendants.
He's a private attorney, and he's not a RICO attorney.
In fact, he hasn't tried this kind of a case before, and he's now being, he's supposedly prosecuting the biggest RICO case in US history.
And he is getting it on with Fannie Willis.
And that's probably why he got the job.
And not only did he get the job, but he also got the cash.
How much cash are we talking about?
Well, it looks like it could be anywhere between 650 and a thousand and a million dollars.
Cash that is evidently being spent on Fannie Willis by him.
So this is a heck of an arrangement.
It is, if true, it is unethical, and it is probably illegal.
And so this is something that has been raised in a filing with the court.
And the court is going to have to look at it.
Now, some of the documents in the filing are coming out.
For example, the billings that this guy, Wade, has been presenting to be paid.
And it turns out in one case, he bills for 24 hours of work in one day.
Now, really? He's a lawyer?
He spent 24 hours a day, no food, no going to the bathroom, no sleeping?
This is straight-out fraud.
Or if it's not fraud...
Listen, Fannie Willis is giving me this money.
I mean, it's Fannie Willis, after all.
She knows I'm overbilling, and she doesn't mind paying it.
So it's a kind of arrangement, a cozy arrangement, in which both sides are corrupt.
This often happens, by the way, between Democrats.
Think, for example, about a left-wing group that files a claim against a Democratic Secretary of State saying, You need to make the voting requirements more easy and extend the dates of voting beyond election day because of COVID. And the guy goes, okay, I'll enter into a consent agreement for that to happen.
See, both sides are willing participants in the nefarious scheme.
One is simply pretending to pressure the other.
And similarly here, normally when a lawyer is working for a client, you'd think the client would be trying to conserve money.
But what if it's not the client's money?
That's the first point, that you've got an excessively cozy billing arrangement.
And here's the second point.
This lawyer, Wade, has evidently been meeting with the White House, because why?
We can look at his billing. He shows, I'm in Washington, D.C., I'm meeting with the White House counsel.
And what does that tell you?
That tells you that these guys, although they are ostensibly running an independent case, We're good to go.
That is actively going after its main political opponent and using all these various processes to do it.
So not simply the DC case, not just Jack Smith, but also Fannie Willis.
I'm quite sure, it seems quite likely that they're coordinating with the people in New York.
And so these details are now emerging in the context of Fannie Willis.
The court is I think going to have to look at this.
And then the question becomes, what, if anything, are they going to do about it?
Now, what they should do, if this is true, and again, the reason I think it is true is that even though in the filing itself I don't see the photographs, I don't see the receipts, I don't think it makes any sense for someone to make a filing with a court that alleges very particular events.
Not just, hey, we've heard rumors that Fanny Willis is cohabiting with this guy, but rather, they went on a Norwegian cruise together.
They went on this trip together.
They have stayed in hotel rooms and places that are not their residence together.
So this tells me there's private detectives involved and this tells me that they have quite likely got the goods on these guys.
And they've probably set a trap for Fannie Willis because what they're doing is they're making these allegations and they're not supplying the immediate documentary proof.
They're just saying this is what happened.
And now Fannie Willis has to reply.
So she has two choices.
She can say, well, it's all true.
That would be it.
Or she can say, it's not true.
None of this really happened.
And then they drop the receipts and then the evidence is put out.
And again, it needs to be put out not just to the court, but in the public domain because this will completely discredit this prosecution.
You know, when I talk to Debbie about it, she's always like, Dinesh, nothing ever happens to these things.
The Democrats always get away with it.
But there is a major roiling now in legal circles in Atlanta because I think that the establishment, and this is the Democratic establishment of Fulton County, they know that this is a big deal.
They know this is a big deal because, in some ways, it is a more clear-cut case of corruption than anything alleged against Trump.
What's alleged against Trump?
He made a phone call to Secretary Raffensperger.
He initiated some challenges in Georgia.
He made speeches where he talked about the fact that the election was corrupt.
So, whoop-dee-doo!
Where's the crime? Where's the conspiracy?
On the other hand, let's look at the Fannie Willis case.
She hires a guy that she's sleeping with.
He gives him a huge amount of money, disproportionate to what she would normally pay.
Well, not to mention she shouldn't be paying anything.
She has attorneys at her disposal that are in the district attorney's office.
She can use in-house attorneys.
But she chooses to hire this guy, and then he spends the money on both of them.
I mean, the whole thing is corrupt.
It stinks. And it will have, if true, an impact not only on the Trump case itself.
This would be grounds for challenging the case, making appeals for dismissal of the case, saying that the whole thing is rotten to the core.
But also, what's going to happen to Fannie Willis?
Will she be under ethics charges?
Will she be disbarred?
Will she be removed from her position?
Will she have to resign?
Is she the new Claudine Gay, if you will?
All of this now remains to be seen.
But I, for one, am watching with great interest.
I find this not only politically important, but also highly entertaining.
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He's a senior editor of Human Events, and he brings unfiltered and factual updates on current events and how they affect our country and the future.
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Jack, welcome to the podcast.
Thanks for joining me. I want to talk to you a little bit in depth about the Epstein, the Jeffrey Epstein files, and try to make sense of that very weird story.
But before we do that, do you have any thoughts about Hunter Biden kind of crashing this congressional hearing?
It's a hearing that is about a contempt of Congress resolution against Hunter Biden.
Is this a bunch of sound and fury or is it going to what do you make of it?
Well, thanks so much for having me.
And we've been covering this stuff over at Human Events as well.
You know, I do think that a lot of this Hunter Biden stuff that you're seeing at the Hill, unfortunately, it is a lot of sound and fury and much of it.
And I give the Republicans credit for actually finally doing something about Hunter Biden.
I was one of the people all the way back in 2019, by the way, who was demanding that the Republicans call Hunter Biden and subpoena him back in the first impeachment of Donald Trump, because it's amazing, ladies and gentlemen, we could have had all these answers five years ago.
So in my head, I'm kind of thinking this is five years after the fact that we had this information out about Burisma and other Burisma who recently, by the way, just filed as a registered as a foreign agent retroactively to cover the years.
Coincidentally, that Hunter Biden was working for them and illegally lobbying for them in D.C. under the auspices of his father being the vice president.
And so I do think it's amazing that Republicans have finally grown a backbone.
I think it's because of people like you, people like President Trump and others that have taught them how to fight.
But unfortunately, because we do not have control of the Department of Justice, the Department of Justice, even if he was issued a citation for contempt, that would still be referred to the Department of Justice.
So even if the Republicans all came in and 100% of Republicans backed this and Speaker Johnson backed it, and let's just say we lived in a scenario where all that happened, it goes to contempt.
Well, that's going to go to Merrick Garland's desk.
And I do not believe in a world where Merrick Garland is ever going to call him up.
Why? So Steve Bannon, of course, he's been sentenced to four months in jail for contempt of Congress.
Peter Navarro, right after him, yourself, you yourself have faced political persecution because of this.
Hunter Biden is part of what I call the three-tier justice system in America.
And people have said two-tier. I say three-tier because there's three tiers.
There's one tier that's, you know, sort of just the regular folks.
You know, you're driving too fast and you get pulled over, right?
That's tier one. Tier two is if you are the ruling class.
If your last name is Biden or Obama or Clinton, then there is a very, very small, very special set of rules for you.
And then the third tier is if you are a deplorable, a filthy conservative, a Trump supporter, which of course is the lowest of the low.
Then they will create new laws out of whole cloth or find creative ways to go after you in ways that have never been done before in history.
And so because I put it through that three-tier hierarchy that I believe exists in this country, I don't believe that America would ever move against it.
Just thinking ahead, I mean, if Congress itself has such limited tools in its arsenal, they can recommend to Merrick Garland, but he kind of ignores it.
And you have an executive branch run by the Democrats that is doing all this stuff.
Do you think that the only remedy really is for Republicans to win the White House and do the same thing to them?
I say this because it seems like Democrats do it, then Republicans come in and stop doing it so that you then have sort of neutral justice.
I mean, I can't think of prominent Democrats, for example, who Trump went after in the Trump term of 2016 to 2020.
So, it looks like the lesson that Democrats are taking from all this is that we can persecute our opponents because they would never dream of persecuting us.
Well, I think it's exactly right. And honestly, I think don't call up Hunter Biden on contempt charges.
No, what you need to be doing is impeaching members of Biden's cabinet and eventually Biden himself over this very conduct.
I think you have to fight fire with fire.
Republicans need to go on the offense.
Contempt charges are simply not enough.
They're not going to cut it. You need to go for the head of the snake.
And so Mayorkas, that's great.
Obviously, this guy needs to be in peace for what he's done on our border.
Lloyd Austin. We don't even know if he's conscious.
We don't even know if he's fully conscious or he's in some kind of comatose state over at Walter Reed because they're lying about where he is and what his status is.
He's got prostate cancer, so we don't know what the deal is with that, even as pertains to treatment.
And then Joe Biden himself has lied so much.
To the American people, we produced the laptop.
The New York Post had the laptop in 2020, October.
This is almost four years ago.
That's an entire roadmap to an impeachment.
I don't need the fake Adam Schiff and the Skiff saying, oh, I heard there's Russian collusion talk.
No, I don't need to hear Adam...
Adam Schiff at his word, because I have the hard drive of Hunter Biden.
I can see the collusion.
I can see the criminality.
And so can all of the American people who have looked at that hard drive.
That's where the Republicans should be focused on.
And look, do I think it'll pass in the Senate?
No, I don't think it'll pass in the Senate.
But what will it do? It will expose all of this for the American people.
That's number one. And number two, it is simply when one side is fighting with fire.
If you do not respond in kind, I say this as a former military officer.
If you do not respond with a proportionate response, a proportionate military response, political action in this case, you will be rolled over.
It's simple as that. I mean, isn't it also the case that, and you also didn't mention Merrick Garland, Christopher Wray, I mean, there's a whole bunch of people here who deserve to be brought into full scrutiny, and it forces the hand of the mainstream media, doesn't it?
Because as long as you're just having a hearing, they can just not cover it.
And so as a result, the ordinary guy doesn't even know what's going on, but if you have an impeachment proceeding against the President of the United States, pretty hard for the New York Times or CBS to go, we're not going to be covering that.
Thank you. That's exactly right.
And so you need to ratchet things up.
And as we've seen, President Trump, he's impeached twice.
And there's like, they're singing songs about it on the radio.
There's a new Fall Out Boy song where they're singing about President Trump was impeached twice.
And that's their entire summary of his presidency.
No, what you need to be doing is, you impeach us, we're going to impeach you back.
You come after, and Trump's children were going after all throughout his presidency.
They were brought up on charges. You have to bring up Hunter Biden on charges It's as simple as that if you want to return to normalcy, and I think we all would we'd we'd love to get back to That place you cannot play by the old rules You must play by the new rules and guess what boys and girls we were you know?
Our side wasn't the one that started this our side was not the one that started locking up political opponents That was Barack Obama, and you know more than anyone else, that he was the one who started this all the way back then, and now Biden has ratcheted it up.
It's as simple as that. We must continue to fight fire with fire until we get to the point where we actually achieve what?
Mutually assured destruction.
That is the only way to bring...
I believe that's the only way to bring any of this to an end.
Jack, you've been covering recently a set of stories that suggest that this sort of police state operation is going global, by which I mean that there appears to be not just an American left or even an American and a Canadian left, but a global left that is practicing the politics of political persecution.
Talk about what's happening recently in Poland.
Right, so Poland, this is a huge breaking story.
It's still continuing as we stand today.
There's a mass protest planned for tomorrow outside the presidential palace of Warsaw, where a new globalist prime minister has taken power in Poland just about three weeks ago.
He didn't actually win the election.
He actually lost the election last year, but he was able to cobble together a coalition of like-minded parties to take control of the parliament.
Now Poland has a nationalist president.
What's he done? He's now started to call for the arrest of Polish MPs, sitting members of parliament.
They have been arrested now where they tried to...
And the optics of this are just stunning.
They actually went to the presidential palace of Warsaw to ask for sanctuary, to say, we'd like to have this go through the courts.
You've got competing court rulings, etc.
These are conservative MPs.
The new prime minister said, no, they must be arrested.
Polish police stormed the presidential palace of Warsaw last night, arrested two sitting members of parliament, and hauled them off To jail.
And you've got other members of this globalist party saying that they should be stripped of their seats because now they are convicted felons, etc., etc.
And so they shouldn't even be allowed to be sitting in the parliament.
Look, this guy Donald Tusk, who's taking control of the parliament there in Poland, he was the former president of the EU.
This was Angela Merkel's deputy, the chief globalist in charge for almost a decade, over a decade in Germany, really the power behind the throne at the EU.
So for the globalists to have their hooks in one of the last bastions of conservatism, of culture, of Western civilization in Europe just goes to show you that they're running the same playbook in Poland, they're doing it here in the United States, they want to do it at Hungary next, and any other place they can because they can't allow any country outside of their system.
And keep in mind, we're just two weeks away, actually one week away, I should say, from the start of what the next World Economic Forum begins in Davos in just about five days' time.
So, all of this will come to a head.
They're trying to clean up the mat before any of this summit begins.
They're all going to be flying to Davos.
I call it the Legion of Globalists, their headquarters.
They tried to have me arrested at the one last year where they put MP5s and detained me and my entire crew members while we were filming a documentary on them.
We're just standing in front of a camera dressed as a reporter standing out there on the side of a mountaintop.
And it's quite simple, Dinesh, because we're fighting the same forces here in the United States that the people of Poland are facing, that anyone's facing, because if they find a people or a place that exists outside of their program, outside of their agenda, where people still believe in God, where people are still practicing...
Christianity publicly as the public ideology.
I don't mean just practicing it privately in your home or in your church.
I mean publicly with marches and prayers, putting it into their laws.
If people are still holding true to this as opposed to the vast global progressive hodgepodge milieu that we're supposed to be pushed into and, of course, fighting back against mass immigration that Poland has done, then they will do anything they can to break you.
When we come back, Jack, I'd like to talk about the Epstein files.
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Let's talk about this Jeffrey Epstein story.
There appears to be every day or every few days some new tidbits that come out suggesting either parts of depositions or names of people who are somehow involved in this scandal.
And I want to get to some of the details of it, but can you help me make sense of the meta story, the big story here?
Because I don't really get it.
What is the big story?
Is it that Epstein was on his own?
Running an international blackmail operation involving the recruitment of these young girls and fielding an influential sort of coterie of pedophiles who would take advantage of these girls.
The reason that doesn't make sense to me is why would Epstein do it?
What's the purpose of it?
I mean, I kind of understand, for example, a few decades ago when the head of the FBI, Hoover, had a blackmail list, and it's partly because he wanted to maintain his position of power.
He wanted to make sure nobody could fire him.
But why would Epstein even do this?
What do you think is going on here?
Well, Dinesh, what we're seeing with Jeffrey Epstein, this operation, and people can talk about the fact that it was an underage sex ring that did obviously operate with some of the most powerful, influential, and wealthy people within, not just American, but really Western jurisprudence.
We talked about, I mentioned the globalists and the globalist ruling elites.
In the last segment, I talked about Davos, I talked about the World Economic Forum, but here we see so many of those same names, not very long ago, all associated with Jeffrey Epstein, associated with his activities, and specifically associated with rides to this little St.
James secret island, Epstein Island, down in the Caribbean.
And of course, for years, people denied these connections.
They said it's not true.
They said it never happened.
We know that Epstein, of course, was a socialite in both New York and Palm Beach areas, attending various clubs, attending to various functions, trying to get close with other individuals.
But one of the big pieces for me, and I say this as a former intelligence officer, is that when I'm looking at the story, it's as you say, the story doesn't add up.
Why would he have done all of this?
Why would he have committed so many crimes?
And then most importantly, if he was doing all of this, why not prosecute him years ago the minute you found out about any of this?
And we've gone through and reported on the fact that he was under investigation all the way back during the Bush administration for these crimes.
And the head of the FBI oversaw this.
His name was Robert Mueller.
Who oversaw an almost year-long investigation into this.
And the Southern District of Florida, one of the individuals who was involved in the prosecution there was Alexander Acosta, who later became Trump's Secretary of Labor.
That comes up later in the story.
So Acosta, during his Senate Confirmation Hearings.
This is the most misdemeanor, lowest possible charge you could get for any of this stuff.
And it doesn't even come up on the federal level.
It's actually done on the state level.
He's given a sweetheart deal where he has to spend his nights in the Palm Beach County Jail.
But he's actually given a day pass where he's allowed to leave jail for the purposes of quote-unquote work.
I mean, it's amazing.
I mean, we'd all love that kind of prosecution if we were running one of those types of operations.
And so they asked Acosta this later on in 2019.
They said, why was it that you guys didn't file charges against Epstein?
And here's the real bombshell.
What Acosta responded in the Senate committee was, I was told that he was an intelligence asset.
And then Acosta went on to become the Secretary of Labor, but this is the big question.
What do you mean this guy was an intelligence asset?
Well, when we look at the operation that he was running, it bears all the hallmarks of what we would call a brownstoning operation.
A brownstoning operation is when, and it started in the NYPD, it gets its name from those walk-ups, those grand townhouse-style mansion that you would see in New York City, one of which, by the way, was owned by Jeffrey Epstein.
These brownstones, because of the The sandstone that's used to make them.
What you do is you entice someone into coming into your party, coming into your club, coming into your event, and then you further and further entrap them through illegal activity, in course of this being underage girls.
And then, through the course of it, you produce blackmail on these individuals.
But here's the difference. You're not doing it for money, necessarily, though, of course, money was certainly an aspect of this, because nobody can really seem to find what were the projects or the deals that Epstein was financing.
You can go to Wikipedia. Wikipedia doesn't call him a pedophile.
They call him a financier. What did he finance?
What was his role? Wikipedia won't tell you that, which goes to tell you something about who is in control of Wikipedia.
But Jeffrey Epstein then is able to use these tapes.
He's able to use these CDs and DVDs and videos of all the videotapes that he had of the clients.
And... We're good to go.
Direct ties to Harvard.
We knew he had ties to MI6 as well through Ghislaine Maxwell's father, Robert Maxwell, who was a tabloid mogul in the United Kingdom for many, many years.
Also died under mysterious circumstances, by the way.
We're told that he fell off of a boat while boating one night.
And so it really opens up some very murky questions, as well as the fact that when Epstein died, His mansion, that brownstone mansion that I talked about in New York City, was raided by the FBI, and an entire case of CDs and tapes, which had names on them, disappeared.
His lawyers were never able to return it back.
The FBI claims they don't know what happened to it.
It is complete. Yes, Bob Menendez has direct ties to it.
There's also a name on the flight logs that says Chuck Schoom.
So Chuck Schumer without the R. So it's interesting.
I wonder if Chuck Schumer knows who Chuck Schum might be.
It's an interesting question, seeing if they're flying out of Teterboro, which is the New York airport.
But there's also the question of Donald Trump and his political, you know, obviously he's running for president this year.
And the question is, was Trump involved in any of this?
And they say, does his name come up?
Yes, his name comes up. But what's amazing is that every time his name comes up, It's actually to exonerate him.
It's actually exculpatory evidence.
They'll say, was Trump there?
He said, yes, he was there. Oh, so did he have dinner?
Yeah, he had the dinner. So he sat with Epstein.
Well, no, he didn't sit with Epstein. Who did he sit with?
He was having dinner with us, with the staff in the kitchen.
You find these comments from Trump.
Okay, well, did he meet with the girls?
No, he didn't meet with the girls.
Did he get a massage? No, he didn't get a massage.
What did he do when he found out that Epstein was involved in stuff?
He had him kicked out of Mar-a-Lago, and then he went to the authorities and he said, how can I help put this guy away?
And then there's some other salacious stories that are always...
It's always hearsay or the witness later recants and said, yeah, I made that up.
I just wanted to get some notoriety for myself.
And so there is this huge political aspect going on right now.
And I've seen places like Drudge Report, which I think has fallen off in recent years, the New York Post, additionally, the Daily Mail running with these salacious claims.
And then, you know, way down at the bottom of the aisle, they'll say the witness later recanted, or they later claim they made the story up, these types of things. And so you are seeing a lot of that being thrown into the information environment right now. And that is because, of course, we are in a political environment and a political election year. Now, what's the reason for this?
Of course, it's simple. They're going to say, well, fine, you've got Bill Clinton dead to rights. You've got the Clinton Foundation dead to rights.
That means everyone who voted for Hillary Clinton voted to put an Epstein asset back into the White House. I think everyone needs to understand this. But what they'll say is, all right, if we can, if he's out there getting smeared, we're going to smear Trump, too.
And that's why you're seeing these assets go out there to say, all right, well, we can at least make it neutral by saying it's no positive for you because we're going to do everything we can to smear Trump.
And unfortunately, that's the way propaganda works.
So people who are just sort of glancing at the media, glancing at little notifications that come across their screen or go to sign into their Yahoo Mail accounts and see a couple of the headlines, scroll by, they'll see Trump named in Epstein documents.
And they're not going to click and scroll all the way down to the bottom.
No, they're going to glance at the headline.
They're going to glance at a picture of Trump and Epstein together at some function they were at before they knew anything about what was going on.
And they're going to say, oh, Trump is tied to Epstein too.
And they're going to leave it at that.
So you're seeing a full-on propaganda war on top of the actual facts that we are getting out in these documents.
I mean, I found it striking, Jack, that in so many of the articles about Epstein, regardless of what the revelation is, they always use the photo with Trump.
In other words, that's the image they seem to be trying to sear into people's minds.
And the other thing is, with regard to this intelligence connection that you mentioned, I mean, one thing we do know is that the police agencies of the government know a whole lot more about this story than we do, right?
In other words, little pieces of information are trickling out, but they have the tapes, they're the ones who ran the investigations, they have the scoop on Epstein, and the fact that they're not telling us, tells us a lot.
Yes, I mean, I suppose that goes without saying.
I didn't even mention it because I take it almost as a given now that our government is lying to us.
Of course they know. Robert Mueller, all the way back in 2005, knew what was going on with Epstein.
Alex Acosta, if he was able to dig through the records, he would have known what was going on if he actually pressed up any of the agents who were involved in this.
And I've spoken to agents and NYPD officers who were involved in some of this stuff.
They spoke to the girls.
They knew what was happening from day one.
But the fact of the matter is that our government allowed this to continue.
And then, oh, by the way, even after that sweetheart deal that he got for his quote unquote sentencing down in Palm Beach.
He emerges from jail and is somehow able to hold meetings with people like Bill Gates, Steven Pinker, the heads of Harvard, all of these other individuals.
He's raising money. Various organizations are out there taking donations from Epstein Front organizations that are founded all in the name of Ghislaine Maxwell talking about...
Our open societies and our free futures and a lot of eugenic style experimentation, by the way.
It gets really, really deep down some of these rabbit holes that you want to go down.
This ranch that he had out in Santa Fe where he's constantly talking about eugenic style programs.
I couldn't tell you what exactly he was searching for, but I can tell you that through these hours of depositions, through these hours of investigations, there are people in our government who know the full truth and they have not come forward.
I mean, what a story, Jack.
It's not just the Epstein cesspool.
It's not just the cultural cesspool of all the pedophiles who are patronizing Epstein.
But then it's the government cesspool of people in high places who knew about this.
And for whatever reason, whether Epstein was one of their assets, for whatever reason, they've chosen to conceal this from the American public.
Jack Posobiec, thank you very much for joining me.
I really appreciate it.
God bless. And by the way, congrats to Danielle and congrats to you on being a grandpa.
We're enjoying it. Thank you.
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But then it's also domestic animals, and it is neighbors, and it's people that you bump into regularly on the street.
and you develop a certain kind of relationship with them, which is glorious in a sense, C.S. Lewis says, because you learn to appreciate the qualities that you normally would not choose.
These are people that you would not normally fall in love with.
They might not be people that you would choose as friends.
And yet, over time, you develop a kind of understanding of what makes them tick, and your world is larger and better for it.
And of course, since Storgy is rooted in the domestic affections, which is the affection of parents for children and vice versa, and it develops a certain romantic quality.
Now, I'm using the word romantic here in the sense of the romantic movement of the 19th century, which celebrated the domestic affections.
In other words, the romantics said, you know, when you go out into the work, Workplace, it's hard, it's unforgiving, you're just an automaton, you're a guy on an assembly line, nobody cares about you, but when you come home, you are in a different environment.
You are now, there's a fireplace, and there's food on the table, and you're surrounded by your wife and your children, or your extended family, your neighbors perhaps, it's a family celebration, and And all of this was kind of glorified as if it is the best that life has to offer.
And here is where C.S. Lewis kind of gets off the bus.
And I say gets off the bus because he says, look, all of this kind of now somewhat antique, but nevertheless, for many, many decades, this kind of sentimental celebration of family, of domestic affections, of Storgi, Lewis goes, conceals the fact that Storgi is also a problematic place.
And he says, think, for example, about the terrible feuds that develop within a family.
Think about two brothers fighting for decades over the family inheritance.
Or think about the way in which sometimes people develop long-term grudges and antagonisms that even if they're concealed...
are nevertheless very much present.
Think, for example, about a kind of long-suffering wife who has to endure the in-laws that she's living with, and they hate the fact that she's there, and she hates the fact that it's their house, and they're kind of tyrannizing over her.
And so this is not a...
Not a Garden of Eden by any means.
In fact, every day you feel the burden of the harsh tongue, the insults, the sometimes very rancorous looks.
So Lewis kind of gets into all this, and he gets into all this with examples from ordinary life, but he also gets into it with examples from literature.
He says, for example, he's talking about a book called The Way of All Flesh by Butler.
Mr. Pontifex is outraged because his son doesn't love him.
And Lewis goes, well, it's of course natural for a son to love his father.
It's also natural for the son to have a sense of duty and obligation to his father.
But he says that for Mr.
Pontifex, this is a kind of entitlement.
He says it's unnatural.
I have a right that my son should love me, and the fact that my son doesn't love me makes me very angry because I'm being denied my rights.
And Lewis goes on to say that this is a very difficult man.
He actually makes life difficult for his son.
He'd never asked the question, what am I doing to deserve my son's affection?
See, the point here is that storge, because of its nature, is not earned, right?
You don't sort of earn a status by being a member of a family or just a member of your family.
And so what happens with that is you take for granted a bunch of things, like my children should love me, my parents should love me, they should take care of me, they owe me duties.
And so what sometimes happens is out of that comes a sense of pride, a sense of bitterness, a sense of long-lasting resentments, resentments that are kind of activated every day because you're, after all, seeing the same people every day.
And Lewis goes that just like storge itself, the affection, which never has an obvious starting point, you have a neighbor, you've known him for years, and if somebody were to ask you, well, when did your affection for him develop?
You're like, well, I don't really know, that by the time I was aware that I liked him, it had been going on for some time.
And Lewis goes, that's exactly how it is with the bad stuff also.
So, for example, if you start learning to, like, hate your mother-in-law, somebody asks you, when did you start hating her?
It's not like it was something she said.
It's a lot of things that she said, and you don't really know when it started.
You just know that it's been going on for a while, and now you're aware of it.
And so this is how Storgi is.
It creeps up on you on the good side, but it also creeps up on you on the bad side.
And it sometimes extracts from people sacrifices that are excessive.
An aged mother, for example, who demands of her grown children that they attend to her every need, that they be around her all the time, that they show up for her birthdays, and so on.
And meanwhile, what's happening to their lives?
Their lives are not being lived.
Their lives are sometimes in shambles, dealing with her health problems and so on.
And so Lewis gives example after example of how Storge is not quite the wonderful thing it's presented to be.
And he says, Storgi sometimes involves acceptance.
That's the nature of Storgi.
You accept your family, you accept your neighbors.
But he goes, but if someone kind of departs from the circle in any way...
Let's say, for example, you are a couple that's an atheist, and your son becomes a Christian.
Suddenly it's like, wait, what?
How dare he do that?
And Lewis is fair-minded enough to admit that this can be the opposite.
You could have a family of church-going Christians, and someone becomes an atheist, and suddenly he's out, or he's gay.
He's out. He's no longer a member of the family.
And so the level of bitterness is in direct proportion So the guy was accepted before, but now that he's departed from the fold or sort of betrayed the code in some way, he is rejected with the same vehemence that he was once accepted.
And this takes Lewis right to his conclusion.
And it's a conclusion that he will make, not just with regard to Storgi, but with all the loves, at least the first three of the four.
And I'm just going to read it to you.
He says... He says that love is kind of intermixed.
The possibilities of love are intermixed with the possibilities of hate.
And he says that it's not just Storgi.
The same is true with friendship.
The same is true with romantic love.
These things begin, and there's a sort of a magical aspect to them, a kind of wonder to them.
But if they turn...
They become mean and vengeful and unforgiving.
And so what he says is that these are loves that carry within them the seeds of hatred.
And it's very important to be aware of this because he says affection that is made the absolute sovereign of a human life will give rise to the seeds of hatred.
Love, he says, having become a god, becomes a demon.
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