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How the Biden regime continues to elude the posse.
The GOP effort to get Jeffrey Epstein's flight logs.
How Javier Millet is hitting the ground running in Argentina.
And how our meeting with Mayra Flores in the Rio Grande Valley is all about turning, keeping Texas red.
I'll also discuss the historical significance of the birth of Jesus.
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As we go into the Christmas season and approach Christmas itself, I thought I would reflect about the significance of Christmas, the significance of the birth of Jesus in the world.
and how that has made all the difference in the world.
When we think about Jesus and about the original Christian movement, It is, well, I guess I would call it the original counterculture.
We use the word counterculture a lot.
We talk about how the left was the counterculture in the 1960s, a culture that arose sort of in resistance to the culture of the 50s.
In some ways, conservatives say, well, we're the counterculture today against the regnant or established culture of the left.
But globally, the first real counterculture was the rise of Christianity, a rise against the backdrop of the Roman Empire.
And in a way that I'm about to tell you, Christianity was a counterculture in that it brought these new values into the world, values that really didn't exist before, things that people didn't think were important, suddenly became important under Christianity.
Well, one of them is the family.
It seems odd to say because everybody has families.
But in the Roman world, the family was considered something that was kind of necessary.
It's there, kind of like you need air to breathe, and of course you need families to have children.
But this was not considered central to the society, not important, and certainly not important to male existence in Roman society.
But Christianity, again, starting with the original holy couple, which is Joseph and Mary and baby Jesus, that's the sort of original holy family.
Suddenly, the family takes on a new importance, compassion, this idea of compassion.
Caring for people and not just people who are, I care for my family or I care for my neighbor or I care for my friends, but just caring for people who are in a bad way.
This idea of compassion in a generalized sense is new with Christianity.
The Romans didn't even consider it a virtue.
It's not listed in the Roman or even the Greek virtues.
Universal brotherhood, the idea that all of us as humans have human dignity, the idea that we should have a certain kind of care for and consideration for everybody in the world because they are, after all, children of God.
That's where the concept of universal brotherhood comes from.
And again, this goes against the ancient ethic that was very tribal.
You care about yourself.
You care about your own tribe, your own people.
It doesn't mean you're necessarily against everybody else, but if they've got a problem, well, it's their problem.
They've got to figure out a way to deal with it.
It's not your problem to deal with.
So this is the social and moral revolution brought about by Christianity.
And of course, at the center of Christianity is a single person.
Namely, Christ.
And this, if you think about it, is unusual.
I say that because there is no single figure at the heart of any other religion.
If you think even of Hinduism, you've got a kind of a pantheon of Hindu gods.
You've got important figures like Krishna and Rama and so on.
But none of them are by themselves defining Hinduism.
Same with Islam. Yeah, Muhammad is a prophet.
God chose him supposedly to deliver the Quran to.
But Muhammad is a man.
He's an ordinary guy.
God just happened to choose him to deliver this particular revelation in the understanding of Muslims.
But nevertheless, if Muhammad wasn't around, God could have delivered the revelation some other way.
And similarly in Judaism, you have important prophets, you have Abraham, you have Moses, you have others.
But again, Judaism would still exist if you removed any single one of these guys.
So, Judaism isn't ultimately based on a single person.
But Christianity is Jesus.
And... And I think it's not an exaggeration to say that Jesus is quite simply the most distinctive and the most important and the most influential figure of all time.
He's distinctive in the sense that the statements of Jesus are so memorable, so striking, that if Jesus were to walk into a crowded room today, We would recognize him immediately.
Jesus is one of the few figures that speaks in a distinctive voice.
The other thing about Jesus that's so interesting is that even though he was such a gentle figure, such a good man, said and did nothing wrong...
And I think said or did nothing wrong by common agreement.
If you had a group of people and said, can you name one thing that Jesus did that he shouldn't have done, one way in which he harmed somebody else or said something that he shouldn't have said, you'd be hard-pressed to do that.
In that sense, the sinlessness of Jesus is confirmed in everything that we know about Jesus in all the Gospels and all the accounts about him.
And yet, he's an unbelievably divisive figure.
Think about that. Jesus is divisive and has been divisive by the way from the very beginning.
And that really I think tells you that Jesus is the kind of figure that separates, as the Bible goes, the wheat from the chaff, you know, the wolves from the lambs. Jesus has the litmus test.
And even if you aren't a religious guy, you aren't a Christian, you can step back and say that this one man has made more difference to the world, and I would argue difference for good, than any other person you can name.
All the conquerors, all the important figures in this respect or that, and some people have been hugely influential.
Muhammad has been hugely influential, Isaac Newton, Karl Marx, Einstein, influential in different ways, and yet all of their influence, put it all together and add it up, We're good to go.
Then you have Jesus right at the center.
We've had a couple of thousand years of history after that.
Who knows when the world will end and how we can look back and see Jesus' position in the flow of history.
But whatever his position in terms of the sweep of history, his difference to history and to mankind, I think is immeasurable.
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Debbie and I are here for our Friday Roundup.
then we should point out that, well, as we go into the Christmas season, this is kind of our last roundup of the year.
And in fact, my last podcast of the year in that we're going to be taking a little time off.
So next week, Monica Crowley will be sitting in for me.
So she'll be doing the five days.
She's awesome.
And I think it's going to be really fun.
So give her a chance, listen to the podcast or watch it.
And then in the four days after Christmas, because I guess Monday, that Monday is a holiday.
Kyle Seraphin, the FBI whistleblower, who has his own podcast, will be sitting in for me those four days.
And that will take us through the end of the year, and then I will pick it up the beginning of 2024, a big year coming up.
Yesterday, I had Liz Collin, the producer of The Fall of Minneapolis, talking about the Derek Chauvin story.
And it seems that as these facts come to light, we have been witness to just a horrific miscarriage of justice.
What's your take on this?
Well, I think it was all orchestrated, to be honest.
I think they were just waiting for some police brutality, quote, to take place at that time, right?
So that there could be a massive, massive fight between, you know, whites, blacks, whatever.
Because as you know, it's really not a problem until they make it a problem.
There are Yes, I'm going to say there are some criminals that do get shafted.
We know this, right?
Of course. But for the most part, these people are very dangerous individuals who actually would be very happy to kill a cop, or who would be very happy to do a home invasion, or would be very happy to do an armed robbery.
And so these people are very dangerous individuals.
And it's a good thing that we do have a police force that can stop them, because if we don't, what's the alternative?
We have to do it ourselves, right?
I mean, for the left, interestingly, they needed a narrative, not just of police brutality, but they needed the racial element.
Yeah, they needed all of it. Even if the racial element had to be invented, as long as you have a white cop and you have a black criminal, you've got the tableau, you've got the picture that you can now use to create your public fiction, right?
Right. And that's what they did in this case.
That's what they did. And it's very, very sad that they had to actually have a sacrificial lamb to do this because as Liz pointed out, Liz Collin pointed out, he's not really a bad guy.
As a person.
He's a very shy person, small individual, not a racist.
In fact, he's had partners that were Black or Latino or minorities, never had a problem with them.
So the fact that not only did they turn this into police brutality, which actually after hearing all the evidence, that really didn't amount to police brutality because they were following the playbook of the police force, right?
Right. Right. I mean, you can argue whether or not they should have those kinds of techniques.
I think they're called maximum restraint, MRT, maximum restraint techniques.
But that's a policy issue.
You can change the policy and then maybe they don't do those things.
But while they're trained to do them...
Chauvin carries that out, that exact maneuver.
This was an unruly guy.
I mean, you had this sort of, you know, canonization of George Floyd, like St.
George Floyd, and there are monuments.
Can you believe there are now monuments to this guy?
Yes. People took a knee to George Floyd, Nancy Pelosi, and others.
Apparently, he had a pretty big rap sheet.
He was a home invader, right?
He was a bad guy. He was a bad guy.
In fact, it is known that he had fentanyl in his system.
Fentanyl kills people.
So did he die because of fentanyl?
Did he die because of other drugs in his system?
Did he die because he had really, really bad cholesterol levels, like exceeding the norm?
Did he die because he had a heart disease?
We don't really know.
And in fact, as Liz pointed out, the FBI kind of intervened.
I mean, it just seems that we talk about informed policy and access of evil.
But we are now seeing in the judicial system an axis of evil between the police agencies, corrupt prosecutors, and even corrupt judges.
I won't say corrupt juries, because one of the points that Liz made was she goes, listen, there was a lot of stuff that wasn't even shown to the jury.
If the jury saw it, they might have been like, whoa!
Don't you think that there is an element of intimidation for the jury?
I think so.
I do.
Because I think as a juror, even with the OJ case, as a juror, you don't want people to retaliate with what you decided.
So some jury pools are mixed, and the person is white.
So that never happens.
But if the defendant is black, or not the defendant is black, the defendant is white, and the person that is in question, as in died by the hands of that person, is black, you better believe the jury is going to be intimidated into deciding.
Even though, I mean, this is what made it so strange, the public narrative was focused on race, race, race.
And to my knowledge, race wasn't even really introduced, certainly not as a significant factor in the trial.
So the trial itself ends up being about something quite different from the racism that is mobilizing all these public protests and lootings and burnings, all this BLM stuff.
And it has the markings of... It's kind of ironic.
Ironic, it has the markings of Karl Marx.
The Marxist propaganda, the Marxist way of doing things, divide and conquer, make people hate each other.
And then Liz also said, I think she said this off camera, so it wasn't on the, she goes, hey, you made your film about police state, this is my police state film, which I think had a grain of fruit to it.
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It's very clear that at the center of the corruption scandal involving the Biden family is Joe Biden.
Joe Biden bought a vacation home for cash, $3 million, just five months after he left the vice presidency.
Now, how could he afford to do that?
He's on a government salary.
When do you get $3 million in loose cash to buy a house?
Well, the answer is he got it through the corrupt network of LLCs.
So you see here that Hunter Biden, although he's himself making off like a bandit, not like a bandit, he is a bandit.
Right. And Joe Biden is the other bandit.
And they're all sharing the loot.
That is the story that's going on here.
And yet there's a little bit of a tap dance.
And I say tap dance because, first of all, these charges involving Hunter Biden are only on the issue of did he pay his taxes?
So not that he take bribes, not that he sell influence, but once he got this money, did he properly pay his taxes?
And I think you spotted right away, and others have commented on this as well, this is a way of kind of saying, okay, the DOJ is treating everyone equally under the law.
Look, we're going after Hunter Biden.
But what they're really doing is making sure that Joe Biden...
Is kept off the hook.
Yeah, yeah. They're really doing it to do that, to do exactly that.
But as I keep pointing out, the more...
So if Hunter Biden gets indicted and prosecuted and found guilty, all that, before the election, you better believe that daddy, big daddy, is going to...
Exonerate him or pardon him, right?
He's going to pardon him. So then it's going to be erased from his record.
And as you know, a pardon does do that.
And so why not?
Why not throw a book at him?
You know, sentence him to 30 years in prison.
And then here comes the big daddy.
Boom. Signs. The pardon.
Yeah. Done. And then Joe Biden gets off.
Hunter Biden gets off.
And there they go.
And isn't that the story of the Democrats?
This is the outcome that we as Republicans are almost now, I wouldn't say, almost resigned to, right?
Because generally when I talk to you, I'm like, impeachment is moving forward or Hunter Biden is being subpoenaed and you're like...
Yeah, but what's actually going to happen?
Is this guy really going to be impeached?
And even if he is impeached, which is a long shot, what will happen in the Senate?
And similar with Hunter Biden, okay, he hasn't showed up for his, you know, he didn't show up for, he was subpoenaed.
He didn't show up. He only showed up in the Senate side, interestingly enough.
Right? He did his little speech on the Senate side because they don't have any jurisdiction over him there because he's not being questioned by the Senate.
Right. Right? So, he was very clever.
I'm in Capitol Hill, just not in the Capitol Hill part of where I'm supposed to be.
Right. You know? So, he did that.
And he was sort of dictating the terms of his own subpoena.
He's like, well, listen, I will appear in public testimony.
Now, look, it's not that the House doesn't want him to appear in public.
They want him to appear in public eventually.
But their point is, and this is true in any legal case, anyone who's been through a legal proceeding, deposition first, trial after.
And that's partly so that the lawyers have an idea of what to question you about.
So he's trying to dodge that.
Circumvent the deposition, move straight to the trial, because then they don't know what he's going to say, whereas in a deposition, you've already given a record, so that now if you lie...
Yeah, I guess, I guess, but also you have to remember that Republicans like to do everything by the book, whereas Democrats throw the book out, unless the book...
Oh, they throw the book at you.
They throw the book at you.
Yeah, ask questions later, right?
They indict first and investigate after that.
Yes. And our side is the opposite.
In fact, we're almost C. Look, we're almost moving into 2024.
And even if we get around to this, like, for example, the House voted on an impeachment inquiry.
But even an impeachment inquiry is not an impeachment.
Right. So we get to the impeachment inquiry.
It's taken this long.
Then you say, okay, let's go ahead with that.
And then let's just say some months later, okay, we've decided we're going to impeach the guy.
Well, now you need to set a schedule.
You need to have the impeachment process.
Wouldn't it be clever and kind of funny if the Republicans were like, you know what?
Let's just drag this out.
Until after the election?
And then let's just say Joe Biden doesn't win the election?
Joe Biden can't pardon him.
Oh, that's interesting. You're saying this may be the one way to hold these guys accountable.
Yeah. Here's AOC, by the way.
She goes, Republicans do not have a single witness to any of their alleged allegations.
I mean, think about it. A single witness?
We don't have a single witness except Devin Archer.
Tony Bobulinski. Bank records.
Bank records. Highly credible IRS whistleblowers who have come forward.
So there's actually a procession of witnesses.
And compare this, for example, to the Trump case.
Where are the witnesses that Trump altered business records?
Well, only one. Well, Michael Cohen?
And even he doesn't claim to be present.
He simply claims to have been in the team when that happened.
So here you have...
And I've seen similar things from Representative Goldman, not surprisingly from Nadler.
So these guys, it doesn't really matter what the facts are.
They're just going to robotically repeat a certain line and hope that they can sort of stall this or get away with it.
They're kind of hoping the Republicans are weak and they're not entirely wrong in that.
They always count on Republican weakness and Republican ineptitude.
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There is finally, belatedly, an effort to try to get a list of Jeffrey Epstein's customers.
In other words, all the guys who flew on his plane, went to his private island, were part of his sex trafficking operation.
Not the girls, some of whom have come forward and filed suit and But we're talking about the people, the kind of dirty old men, if you will, who are part of the scheme.
Notice that not a single one of them has been held to account.
A few names have surfaced, I guess Prince Andrew and a few others, but no one has been prosecuted.
And in fact, by and large, the list, which probably is a pretty long list, has never been publicly disclosed.
So now we have some people, I see that Marsha Blackburn in the Senate, but also Tim Burchett in the House, Republican from Tennessee, are pushing for the release of Epstein's flight logs, right?
Now to me...
On the one hand, first of all, if you just get a flight log, it doesn't by itself prove anything.
Because it's a whole... Okay, yeah, so I traveled on the plane, but that doesn't mean I didn't necessarily did something.
It's a little incriminating because you were on that plane, presumably going to that island.
But... What I find really weird is the police agencies of government already know this.
They already have. They have the list.
So they're talking about releasing a list.
And the Republicans are like, let's see the flight logs.
Whereas they should go, we need to force the DOJ and the judicial apparatus to open up those names and start prosecuting those people.
So they're not really going, I think, to the heart of the matter.
But why is it a partisan issue?
Why is it that the Republicans want the flight and the Democrats don't want it to be released?
Why is it partisan? Why do you think it's partisan?
I mean, this is interesting. So let's look at this.
So Marsha Blackburn says, I was trying to get these flight logs to be made public.
But she says that Dick Durbin, who is the committee chair of that particular committee, didn't allow it to happen.
Now, when Dick Durbin was asked about it, very interestingly, he pretended like he didn't know what this was really all about.
He acted like, well, they were trying to get something and I really don't know what the significance of it is.
I mean, this is a highly publicized case.
So I think that this kind of, I'm not sure what's going on.
He's playing dumb?
He's playing dumb. He's playing dumb.
He's also playing bureaucratic because one of his staffers, at least in this article, this is an article on Fox News, says that he claimed that there were several other votes that needed to occur first before you could vote on this one.
See, I think what he was doing is trying to blackmail the Republicans and basically say, I've got seven things I want to get passed first.
And the Republicans were, they were too smart for that.
They were like, no, no, no, we're not going to, we're not going to grant you a vote and pass your unrelated garbage so that we can get to, yeah, so we can get to our one issue.
But so interestingly, this is being stalled in the Congress.
So it's being, it's been stalled by the FBI.
It's been stalled by, remember, even Epstein himself got a sweetheart deal.
So for a year, he had a trivial conviction.
And so it's very interesting how someone like that creates.
I mean, this is not just a case where the guy is running a burglary operation or even a...
This is very serious.
It's an elaborate self-traffic.
And I think it's even a blackmail scheme.
It could be that he had powerful people who were...
I have a feeling that it's probably the Clintons, you know, probably even some people in the DOJ, maybe some politicians, some Democrat politicians.
You mean these are the people who- Let me tell you, if there were any Republicans on this list, MAGA people, Republicans, conservatives, this list would have been- Let out a long time ago.
And the media would be screaming for it.
Exactly. It would have been made public immediately.
Immediately. But because that's probably not the case, they're hiding it.
You can be absolutely sure Trump is not on this list, is what you're saying.
If Trump alone were on this list, the Democrats would give up six Democrats to get Trump as well.
Release it. Release it.
Immediately. And New York Times, they'd be filing motions, they'd be freedom of information requests.
How do we know Epstein was a Democrat?
We know that. Right. And he mostly hung around with Democrats.
We know that as well. Right.
So I do think that there's some very powerful people on this list that are either making threats, and we don't know what kind of threats.
I mean, you know, he ended up suiciding himself, right?
In very suspicious circumstances.
In very suspicious circumstances. We don't know.
We don't know what the threats are.
We don't know if these people are so high up that they actually do control the media.
They do control the Democrats.
We don't know. But something fishy is going on.
I mean, the cover-up is not just at the level of Dick Durbin.
It's also a cover-up at the level of the media, because this is a case where the silence of the media, they're very happy to move along from the Epstein case.
Okay, Epstein is dead, and the woman, what's her name, you know, the enabler, the woman who worked with him, Gillen Maxwell.
Yeah, she's in prison, so justice has been served.
We don't have to look any further, guys.
This, I think, is the continuing abrogation of responsibility of the media.
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It looks like our friend Javier Millet, and I say our friend because we are both very enthusiastic about this guy, the new president of Argentina.
But it looks like he's hit the ground running.
And this is a guy who made some very extravagant claims and promises.
And of course, it's always a question once you get in there.
Yeah.
And you were telling me that he was very honest upfront before the campaign.
And even though he said, I don't like a lot of these social services and a lot of this government dependency that's been created over the not just years, but decades, he admitted that some of that he would not be able to change.
So talk about that because I don't think people know that.
So he was basically telling the people, hey, listen, I'm not going to take away your services.
I'm not going to take away this.
I'm not going to take away that, whatever.
You know, he was making promises to the people that were being lied to because basically his opposition at the left was telling everybody, hey, you know what?
you're not gonna get any any money anymore for milk or you're not gonna get any money anymore for this or for that or medical I'm not gonna I'm not going to take I'm not gonna privatize medicine I'm not going to privatize education.
Because I think people were told that he was going to.
And he said he wasn't going to.
So I think?
Part of what he was saying is, I don't have the power to.
Because let's remember, he doesn't have a legislature that is entirely in his bidding.
But he isn't even going to advocate for it.
So I thought about it, and I was like, you know, why would somebody...
In a third world country or in a country where the left has dominated politics for 20, 40 years, why wouldn't someone come in and say, done, enough is enough.
Welfare is over as we know it.
We're now going to be free market only, capitalist only, blah, blah, blah.
Okay, why wouldn't somebody come in and do that?
Well, first of all, they would never get elected.
It would never get up. First of all,
when people are promised all this stuff by the government, you cannot take it all away in one snatch, right?
You sort of have to wean people off of the welfare state or the extreme welfare state.
It's like giving candy to a baby, right?
You can't take it away.
Or take it all away.
You've got to do it perhaps a little...
You've got to wean them. Right? Yeah.
But now, look, here's Millay.
He comes in. Apparently, out of the 21 cabinet positions, he's eliminated 12.
So, they're down to 9 cabinet positions.
And you remember that video where he was looking at...
Yeah, taking out all the organization.
Yeah, this organization of this scrap.
Or this scrap. So, I think he's doing that in a way because some of those were just agencies.
Right, right. But he appears to be wiping out some home apartments.
The agency of gender studies. Boom.
Boom. That's right.
It says he's targeting a balanced budget by 2024.
He has embraced the dollar over the peso.
This is a way of stabilizing the currency.
He's about to make Argentina great again, which means he's not hesitating to identify with Trump.
Now, he's apparently not, quote, taking on China, in part because Argentina sells a lot of goods to China.
China's a huge buyer of Argentine soybeans and corn and beef.
China's also building some infrastructure project.
Look, I mean, part of him protecting his country's self-interest is recognizing that he is doing business and there's no reason for Argentina not to do that.
I don't actually oppose any of this, but the good news is the Argentine stock market.
Surge. Big surge.
It looks to me like it's almost a 30% surge in the stock market in Buenos Aires.
So what it shows you is that these are free market policies that are likely to work.
At least the market is giving them the...
And it shows that he's a really smart guy and he knows how to do it and do it effectively, right?
Yeah. If you watch this guy's videos, he is, and even though he's speaking Spanish with subtitles, he is a very good explainer of the basic purposes of government.
And, in fact, one of the best, one of the best I've seen.
In some ways, rhetorically, and in different ways, I mean, Giorgio Maloney has her own style in Italy.
She's very good on certain type of issues.
Oh, no, his style is...
His style is very unique, I have to say.
He actually likes to put in a little bad word here and a little bad word there, you know.
I mean, for example, the viva la libertad, carajo.
I mean, that's kind of, you know.
Kind of a vulgar expression.
But it's like he's mad, you know.
He's like, you know.
It's kind of like liberty and freedom, damn it, right?
Isn't that what he's getting at?
The emphasis.
Yeah, yeah. Some people say that it's not actually, damn it, that it's something else, but I always thought it to be that.
So, regardless, he's funny.
Well, it's really important that he do well and that the guy in Bukele in El Salvador do well, Maloney do well.
Well, we know people love him because he won by the largest margin in Argentina history as far as winning a presidency.
Which you were a little doubtful that he would pull off a victory at all.
And because the right-wingers tend to self-destruct, that's been kind of a play for all of Latin America, really.
The right-wing side of the government, they're too principled on this, or they can't agree on that, or whatever.
And they self-destruct, and that gives the left that arena to come in and take it over, right?
So, happily, that did not happen here.
Glad!
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Earlier this week, we were in Dallas and, well, Brandon and Danielle put Debbie and me to work.
And so we were, you know, contacting donors, strategizing, doing all the stuff that you do when a family is directly involved in a political race, which, by the way, is not a first for you.
You've been in so many different campaigns.
You've campaigned for judges.
You've campaigned for Congress.
For me, it's actually new because even though I've been in politics all my life, I haven't been in this phase of politics.
And I have to say, it is a, I mean, it is a grind, right?
It's, I know, I see even with Brandon, I mean, this guy's on the phone eight hours a day.
Well, it's a grind, especially because there's so many different components.
There's the fundraising component.
Then there's the volunteer component, the block walking, the push cards, the- Radio ads.
All of it. Billboards.
Billboards. Signs.
Yard signs. There's just all...
Endorsements. Yeah, endorsements.
All of that. But it's really important, and I hope that Brandon really embraces this, but it's really important to do more grassroots and to really get people involved on that grassroots level, more so than getting endorsements from people that don't even live in Texas, more important than getting big fundraiser events.
It's really important for the mom and pop And the neighbor next door, you know, somebody that can give, you know, the small amount.
Because if you get a lot of people to give $20, $30, $50, it means a lot more.
Because these are the very people that are going to go to the polls and Well, and these are people giving out of their paycheck.
You know what I mean? It means something to them.
This is something that they could use for something else, but they're choosing to give it to you.
I also think we were talking about the block walking, and you were telling me all about how you do it.
You have a sign. You keep your signs in the car.
You go with literature.
And I was thinking that, look, if there are two candidates who come and want your vote, and one of them came to your door and chatted with you, even for a few minutes, you're more likely to vote for that guy.
Yes. And it's obviously easier in a county that has a few people, right?
Or a few neighborhoods.
But Brandon's district is very, very wide.
And there's a lot of rural land and all of that.
So it's going to be a little more complicated, but it can still be done.
And Myra actually is very good at this.
In fact, Myra, before she even met my mom, she block walked on my mom's very street and She went to my mom's house before she even met my mom and gave literature.
So Myra definitely goes in there and she meets people.
She meets people at the grocery store.
You know that when we went to the restaurant that we all ate at, people came up to her and said, Myra, we really support you.
We like what you're doing.
Keep it up. You know, all those things.
it's very important for a candidate to do that, to make himself available to people.
Because that's ultimately why they vote for you.
And it was really touching.
I mean, it's kind of interesting.
We have it somewhat similar when we're down in the Rio Grande Valley and some guy comes up to me at the airport or in the road and you're like, wow, look at that guy.
That's not the kind of guy you would think would be a fan of your work, but he is.
And the same with Myra, because Myra is pro-Trump.
She's running on a conservative platform for the Valley.
So it's really cool to see Hispanics.
And you know, this is the thing, the Valley is winnable, but we just have to make people aware of the platform and of why voting for a Democrat is different than voting for a Republican.
I mean, you know, I have family that's Democrat.
Very dug-in Democrat, right?
My mom's next-door neighbor is a Democrat.
My mom has help that- Your brother.
My brother's a Democrat.
Really hard to get people to understand why they vote the way they vote, and it's really difficult to change their hearts and their minds.
Yeah, I mean, it's a bit of a paradox.
You can see Mayra is wrestling with it.
On the one hand, you know, she was born in Mexico.
She's got the sort of perfect resume.
And so she could campaign by saying, vote for me, Mayra, and not necessarily for me as a Republican.
But I think what you're saying is that in the end, we want to convince people that it is about the platform, that the two parties differ dramatically.
Right, right. Which is why Myra is running in the Republican Party and not in the Democrat Party.
Because that party does not serve her values, does not speak for her values, whereas the Republican Party does.
So that is what I want to make people understand.
Okay, you don't like the trans agenda.
Okay, then why are you voting for it?
You don't like abortion.
Then why are you voting for it?
So issues, right?
Right. Yeah. One of the things our side needs to learn is to try to use all your influence.
I think it's fair to say that you and I, in every way, want to go all out to make sure that come November of 2024, we're looking at Congresswoman Mayra Flores, Congressman Brandon Gill, and...
President?
Donald Trump.
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I'm going to complete my discussion of ordinary life in a Soviet prison camp.
In some ways, we see that it resembles ordinary life in prisons all over the world.
Now, of course, the people in the Soviet prison aren't really convicts.
So they're not convicts because they necessarily did something wrong.
In fact, very often the best people in the society end up in prison.
These are political prisoners.
And Solzhenitsyn tells us that they took the old jails, which are left over from the Tsarist period, some of them from the Romanov dynasty, and sort of remodeled them, strengthened them, perfected them.
And some of those old prisons, Solzhenitsyn says, were kind of dignified.
They had these kind of doors plated with iron and some of them had tables and stools and cots permanently anchored in each cell.
And so, in some ways, the cells are an inheritance from the old times, but the Soviets have adapted it to communist purposes.
Originally, food was pretty good in these prisons.
And Solzhenitsyn says that lunches included some meat, fresh vegetables were served, you could buy milk in the commissary.
But then in the 1930s, there was a kind of deterioration of the food supply, and some of the prisoners then began to get sick from malnutrition.
Interestingly, Solzhenitsyn says the light in cells was always rationed.
So what an odd statement.
But what it means is that they don't allow you light.
Think of it. We in normal life take for granted light, right?
I mean, it's light in the day because we can go outside.
The sun comes inside our homes.
At night, it's dark, but guess what?
We have electricity, so we can have light whenever we want, but not in prison.
In prison, it's lights out.
Or in prisoners, you get light 12 hours a day, and for 12 hours, you don't get light.
So, the prisoners find that light becomes a desired commodity.
And in winter, the light is even less to be found because natural light is less available.
Things are covered with snow, which cuts off the access to the light.
Walking outdoors, again, something that's taken for granted in normal life, but in prison, it is something that you have to look forward to.
Why? Because you're allowed, he says, 15 to 45 minutes outside, and it varies depending on the prison.
He said, there was no such thing as communication with the soil that had existed in Schlüsselburg or Solovsky.
Everything that grew had been torn up by the roots, trampled, covered with concrete and asphalt.
So these prisons used to be a prison that was connected sort of to nature.
you'd have kind of a dirt road or just a dirt path outside you could walk on that and have some connection to the soil but now no it's all covered up it's all asphalt so there's a certain kind of I think Solzhenitsyn is getting a denaturalization of the environment Everything is concrete.
Everything is antiseptic.
And something I mentioned yesterday, they even forbade lifting up one's head to the heavens during these walks, look at your feet.
So, they want you to be degraded.
They don't even want you, in a sense, morally or spiritually to be uplifted by looking up to the sky, by perhaps imagining God in the heavens.
None of that. Look down.
Look down to the ground.
look down to the, not to the earth, but look down to the asphalt. He talks about the fact that in many prisons your personal items are taken away and you basically have a striped mattress. He says correspondence is permitted once or twice a year and only on days that they announce. So like, okay we're gonna allow it next Wednesday, we'll take letters, we'll mail them out, but the next day to
mail out letters may not come for four months. And there are of course frequent searches and in which you have to strip down to complete nudity.
And so this is prison life.
There's always a pretext.
We want to make sure you're not hiding something.
They also want to make sure that you can't communicate with other prisoners in ways that they don't allow.
So the entire cell, he says, would get punishment for graffiti in the toilets.
Why? Because even graffiti is seen as a form of communication.
He talks about the punishment cell.
That's sometimes called the hole.
It's a cell within a cell.
This is like where they put you in solitary, where you're all by yourself.
You're in prison, but you're being punished.
And he talks about the fact that these punishment cells are, you don't even have a bed.
He talks about a guy named Kozyrev who learned to sleep sitting on a stool.
He says one of the officers in violation of the duty gave him a piece of sugar with his bread ration.
So all you get to eat is bread.
But one of the officers kind of took pity on the guy and they're like, okay, here's some sugar to go with the bread.
He was only five days, five days in the hole.
And he kept count of those days.
And the one thing that they were waiting for him to say, this is so strange, they were waiting for him to say, my five days are up.
Because you're not even allowed to say that.
If you say that, it's seen as unruliness, uncooperativeness.
You're trying to sort of put one over on the guards.
Hey, you gotta send me back to the normal prison because my five days in the cell are up.
So this guy, even though he was...
Aching to say that, his five days were up, he didn't say it.
He just sat silent and obedient, and at the end of the fifth day, they had to let him out.
And then Solzhenitsyn goes, after the punishment cell, the ordinary cell seemed like a palace.
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