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Coming up, I'll examine the future of the House in the wake of a speaker vacancy.
I'll review a detailed article in Newsweek exposing the police agencies of the Biden regime targeting of Trump and the MAGA movement.
Republican Congresswoman Victoria Sparks joins me to talk about socialist tyranny she grew up under in Soviet-dominated Ukraine and the reappearance of the police state in Biden's America.
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Who is going to be the next Republican House Speaker?
The hats are already coming, flying into the ring.
There are a bunch of people who are interested.
Some of them, and this is also true of the presidential race, candidates who don't really have a chance.
Tom Emmer, I would not say, doesn't have a chance, but I think perhaps it's not likely to be him.
Clearly a lot of the Trump people are against him.
So the MAGA people in the House are, we don't really, this is a guy who's not been, who's actually been critical of Trump, and I don't think it's going to be him.
Which raises an interesting question.
Is it going to be Trump himself?
Now, normally I would consider this to be really outlandish, really out there, almost a playful suggestion.
But then I turn to Truth Social and I see that Trump posted a photo of himself with the hammer.
As if to say, well, maybe...
And Trump himself is quite capable of playing around and being ironic.
And a lot of times people don't get that about Trump.
They go, oh, Trump wants to be the speaker, not recognizing that Trump is sort of taunting the other side by the symbolism.
Now, that being said, Trump was asked about this and he said, well, I'll do what's good for the Republican Party.
And that's an interesting statement because I think Trump may realize that That in the interim, this may not be a bad way.
If he could get it, if the Republicans say, yeah, let's make it Trump.
I mean, what a massive up yours to the left.
I mean, here is a guy who's been in all these courtroom trials, under all these indictments, and guess what?
He's the Speaker of the House.
He is, in fact, the second or third most important person in the country.
He's, in fact, the driving force of legislation.
I mean, the left would have a hernia over this.
So this is alone a reason not to dismiss it.
I don't know if it's going to happen.
I don't know what kind of odds to put on it.
It looks to me like the two candidates who are really in the running here are Steve Scalise, The number two man in the House right behind Kevin McCarthy, or at least that's what his position was.
And then Jim Jordan, who is head of the Oversight Committee.
Now, both are very influential in the Republican House.
Scalise is sort of the next in line.
And in the old days, the Republican Party used to be essentially a mechanical, who's next in line?
Who's next in line to run for president?
Oh, Bob Dole, you're next in line.
Okay, well, we don't care if you're a good candidate.
We don't care if you're going to be an effective campaigner.
We don't care if you can raise money.
You're the next person in line, and so it's your turn.
Well, we're a long way away from those days, and so I think this time the House is going to be looking to see, well, listen...
If we didn't want Kevin McCarthy, or at least if Kevin McCarthy could not effectively lead this group, and I'm not saying this is easy to do, because you've got 220 or so Republicans.
They stretch across quite a spectrum.
They differ in ideology to some degree.
Some sort of, you may say, some more mild or weaker Republicans, other kind of more accented or stronger Republicans.
They also differ in temperament.
Some are more establishment types.
others are more kind of fire-breathing types.
In any event, you've got to corral all these guys into a single team with not many votes to lose.
I mean, quite precisely, what, five or six votes to lose?
And if you lose those votes, then the Democrats are able to command an effective majority.
So I think it is, to Steve Scalise's credit, that he has proved to be actually a decent sort of number two man.
The problem is, if Kevin McCarthy couldn't do it, how will Scalise, who is similar to McCarthy, at least in some ways, will he be the man for the job?
Or... Jim Jordan.
Now, Jim Jordan, I gotta say, has also been loyal to McCarthy when you had this dissident faction led by Matt Gaetz.
Who did Jim Jordan vote for?
McCarthy. That being said, I think that Jim Jordan is conservative in his bones, and he is someone who does command a broad respect, and he's a very affable guy, and this is actually the key.
If you think about Reagan, Reagan was philosophically conservative.
But he was temperamentally genial, and he was also pragmatic about the way that he went about things.
He would have a goal, but if he couldn't get everything, I want a tax cut that is a very steep tax cut, but I can only get half of it right now.
I'm going to have to go after the next half in the second term.
Reagan is, let's do it. So there's no clash between being philosophical and being pragmatic.
Philosophy sets the goal and pragmatism sets the means.
We need that kind of leader to take over the helm in the Republican House.
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Feel the difference. Guys, I'm really happy to welcome to the podcast a new guest, Victoria Spartz.
She is a congresswoman who represents Indiana's 5th District.
Now, what interests me particularly, she grew up in socialist-controlled Ukraine, emigrated to the United States about 20 years ago, worked her way up from bank teller to CPA, successful business owner, now, of course, member of Congress.
Her website, spartz.house.gov.
Victoria, welcome to the podcast.
Really great to have you.
And, you know, you seem to have had a really interesting story beginning your life, we'd have to say, in the unfree world, and then coming to the free world, which is now not looking perhaps so free as it used to be.
Tell us a little bit about your story, and then let's talk about free and unfree societies.
And thank you for having me.
It made me mad and crazy enough to get that whole attention now.
But at all, I'm sad.
And unfortunately, I don't belong to our tyranny dictatorship.
Socialism and socialism is a tyranny.
And I saw what happened in 1991 when the Soviet Union fell apart.
It was an energy novel.
I don't think a lot of Americans realize what it means to live under law when you don't have rule of law.
Very tough times, and a lot of things, you know, we're looking out bad at the end of the 90s, but you can see that it's very hard to get out from under tyranny.
The government is so powerful.
For most Soviet republics, you know, only three of them, they've always been friends, you know, became free. And for the remaining one, only Ukraine is still trying to fight and becomes free. And it's a lot of bloodshed and people cannot get the power back. It's very dangerous.
When police state, when tyranny becomes very powerful and controlled by a very few on top, you know, then it's very difficult for people to succeed.
And I was shocked to see this trend in the United States because I was young, idealistic, and inspired by Milton Friedman, Hayek, and Alexis de Tocqueville.
Well, you mentioned that socialism is a tyranny.
And of course, we have lots of people in this country, they say we're democratic socialists.
They don't think of themselves as advocates of tyranny.
And I think the ordinary American has difficulty understanding what it's like to really live that way.
Can you give us some idea of life itself?
In the Soviet orbit, what did it mean in terms of what you could and couldn't do, in terms of, let's say, holding a job or traveling or the kind of things that ordinary Americans take for granted?
Well, democracy can't exist under socialism because somebody has to decide what is good for you.
Well, we're all free and online people, so if somebody is going to tell me what I should do, what I should say, it isn't going to be a tyranny because, you know, no one knows better than you, you know, what is the best for you or for your children.
So the government is telling, you know, to be able to control the great elites on top, you know, localists, the first thing, we are all the guards, so it's a communist party, it doesn't matter.
You have, you know, some people on top, live a different life, they control everyone, and everyone else is equal, of course.
They will give a little handout, so if you depend, then, you know, I mean, people are very minimal.
They'll swim in and they'll be comfortable in no other place to leave.
They will give you a start-up break.
You might spend long, there's always a shortage, but they want a bridge shortage because they want to give you something that you will be more accountable and more, you know, oppressed by them.
So, you know, if you say something that the government doesn't like the other employees, If they kill you as police, they might report you in a mental health facility, you know, and make you like, your mental is sick, and if they cannot do that, sometimes they actually pull out a radio, it's real bandits, you've got a lot of people, real criminals.
So it's you, the oppression, to be able to control their power, and you weren't funny to say, you weren't funny to pray, you know, I have a religious grandma, but you have to baptize me secretly, because they're afraid of people, because religion makes us strong as individuals.
You know, my predecessor, the land was sent in array by communists, and they were sent to die in peace.
And my grandpa almost died because a lot of Ukrainians own land, and then your own land can provide for yourself.
You are more independent. You are dangerous.
They took violence from people because that is making you strong and free.
They don't want you to be very well informed and educated because they want to be able to brainwash you.
And there's a stress on so fast that happened in our country that people are not afraid to even express their opinion.
Because if you say something that the machine doesn't like, they can actually try to put you in jail.
And that was how the Department of Justice became.
They are very dangerous. And people are like thinking and afraid that the old government can come after you.
And that fear is very oppressive and very dangerous.
Victoria, you came to the United States.
You met your husband on a train in Europe, almost something that you could make a movie about.
You certainly experienced the American dream, the American dream of opportunity.
You came to a country where you could speak your mind.
You're saying that now there has been a kind of a dangerous turn.
And when did you first observe that happening?
Is that a unique feature of the Biden administration?
Or do you think that the roots of it go further back?
You know, I've been looking back at the rules for a while, but undoubtedly what's cut out under President Obama.
I'll tell you, the other side is breaking, you know, what they do.
And I've been telling you, I'll take us to make conditions in the lottery, and I've been on.
They play major league strategic rules, and we do a lot of presentations that always, we're good on the defense, but not as brilliant on the defense.
And they advance very quickly, very smartly.
They use, you know, Karl Marx 101, and it works.
It unfortunately died.
And Republicans are doing, you know, not as effective, you know, policy and delivery, and then people get frustrated with us.
But I actually, you know, I've been involved, and I have that, you know, I'm young, very difficult jobs, but it makes you stronger.
It doesn't matter where you came from, you barely speak English, I was new, like a suitcase, but you can pursue whatever you want.
And that was still hard work, and people appreciate it.
So we still have that on the ground.
But I still found it difficult, and it was difficult.
You know, I was a world of misfortune.
I'm not an American. They fought dealing with large corporations, and then my mom wasn't going to be a partner and single mom.
You need to get back into your home.
And I fell down to my own businesses.
And I fell down to my own businesses.
And I'm like, oh, and I'm cheap.
I'm, you know, an educated person, I've done a lot of things, and that's the machine.
You know, the federal state, the law problem.
I mean, it's not just the federal law and centralized law even involve a lot of corrupt and worse politicians in a lot of other ways.
It's getting very clever how they give you a little handout and attack racist people.
Not paying attention to what's happening.
So I actually got involved.
I was like, oh my gosh, this is unbelievable.
This is like, oh, it's like torturing the Russian-style mafia.
Like, you know, you bring a frog in the world with fire, and on a brain, it's our lips, and it is now in the faint of a lot.
But God is not true.
God is evil cathedrals, you know?
So I live from that propaganda.
I know that my planet's so big and I'm like, this is like, blame me for what is happening in the country. And I think it is very dangerous.
Like, they get involved and bring black people in that, I don't know, they're paying attention in the conservative movement. So that's how I kind of got involved with politics. But try to take down bad politicians first.
We'll be right back with Representative Victoria Sparks of Indiana.
Our website, spartz.house.gov.
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I'm back with Congresswoman Victoria Sparts of Indiana's 5th District.
Um... You know, Victoria, I'm releasing just later this month a movie called Police State, and it got me thinking about what are the defining characteristics of unfree societies.
I'm thinking of North Korea, I'm thinking of Iran, of China, certainly of the old Soviet Union and the Soviet Empire.
And I say that those societies have mass surveillance.
They have censorship.
They tend to be one-party states.
Not to say they don't have elections.
Iran has elections, but they handpick the opposition.
They choose all the candidates.
So there's no effective opposition that is allowed.
You have political prisoners.
You have people who are targeted criminally for being dissidents or for being opposition party members.
And I say to myself, wow, I, like you, came to the United States as an immigrant.
I thought I was coming to a free society.
But a lot of these defining elements of unfree societies we now see right here in the United States.
Are you worried that we are losing our basic freedom that we have taken for granted in this country for 200 years?
We should never underestimate some of the people that really have a very strategic agenda.
I can tell you what we're doing right now.
You know, what are they doing?
What is that?
You know, it's going to do to the American people.
Inflection is going to be destroyed, middle class, and opportunities flowing from people to move into middle class.
So you move on out of that. Most major asset parts people own in their lives as a spouse.
It's not only just become unaccountable, it will become unachievable.
So they're going to pass all-incorp partners and give subsidy to control because if they take subsidy, you're undefendable.
They want us to urbanize us because I live on the farm.
Then I'm independent. I can survive.
But then I have infrastructure to provide.
So you undermine all of this ownership.
As long as they start losing property rights, they even use an FDA and that was really like a communist to take your property rights away and redefine.
You know, they make a little, you know, puddle of water, navigable water.
So they have a government control.
If you touch it, it's a criminal offense.
So they try to criminalize ownership of property.
And try to stabilize the power, because if people understand, to your socialists and communists, it's who controls means of production.
Well, means of productions and assets are provided with money.
If you control money in Washington, D.C., and you control property, that is the barrier, because it's really, we have rights to it.
You know, a lot of people forget.
It's to, governments in particular, rights to life, liberty, and property.
And property is an extremely important factor.
So they try to eliminate abilities to do property.
They try to take religion from you.
Because that is very important.
It keeps you strong as a human being.
You know, that you have convictions.
They don't want people with convictions.
They want government to be religion.
They want other ways to replace your beliefs.
Because they want you to be weaker.
And they want to take your second in the routes away.
Because they understand. Government will open Canada.
Bandits, criminals will always have guns.
In any society, it's about low-bound citizens.
And this right was given us against theory.
The most important thing, and an animal, you know, an animal is born under napkin because it is a military boy.
It's for women and plenty of Americans and low-bound citizens not to be oppressed.
So they take all the principle that out of their mind is a strength for an individual.
education too. So you see what's happening. They want to have you weak and be dependent and then provide you handouts until you become popular enough and then their friend is on top or in the arts, you know, telling Donald what are they controlling the other one. Very dangerous and just became so corrupt and even Republicans aren't willing to fight these fights and it would have to win.
Well you're saying something here that's very important because I think that for a long time Republicans when they confront these policies that are coming from the Democrats they always think that these policies are misguided.
The Democrats don't understand how markets work.
And even in the Obama years, I would always hear people, Obama doesn't understand this and Obama doesn't understand that.
But I think what you're saying is it's not about that at all.
The Democrats are trying to create a structure of power in which they have permanent power and they are the oligarchy at the top.
And so telling them things like this does not improve economic efficiency or this is not good for the economy or we cannot afford to borrow this much debt, those arguments aren't going to get I'm here to rob the bank because I stand to benefit from it.
So, do Republicans need to have a sharper, sort of, maybe a clear understanding of power to recognize what they're up against?
It's not strategic and incredible.
They have been able to move back legislation at Republican Supermajority.
And I was the state Senate of NDI. It's not a climate change.
It's not strategic.
They don't have to use people's feelings to push quiet warfare or rest warfare.
They are avoiding use of that.
And unfortunately, You know, we are already strategic, because I think most Americans don't want to control, and we want to be socialists and communists and all of them.
I don't want to believe where they are.
Well, what we have all that kind of frustrated is to believe it, that we actually beat the Republic, which is very dangerous, too.
You know, but I think, you know, we still have to get out and show and expose what they're doing.
They don't care about poor people.
They don't want immigrants like me to speak English and run for Congress.
there's no limit to wash their toilets, you know, and give them a hand down. So they're going to be lower class, easy to operate, because poor people are using the farms to make some people very rich. There is so much money made by the oligopolies here, using poor people, that people are not getting richer, we're not restoring and improving people's opportunity to work in the middle class. They don't want it.
They want you to be there, because you are easy to control and puppet, and then you're going to be stalled.
And unfortunately, when you get a critical mass of people dependent like that, it's very hard then to overcome.
And that's why they want to undermine a lot of principles, including our constitution, that spread the power.
The out of them, 16th and 17th year medalists, did a lot of hard when they slip out.
And they were very clever to do it in the beginning of our century.
Very scary stuff, but I'm glad you are there, Victoria, fighting the good fight.
Representative Victoria Sparks, thank you very much for joining me.
Thank you. Thank you for freedom fighters like you.
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I've just made a film called Police State, and everywhere it seems the police state is in the news.
Now, I have to ask myself, is this some kind of an optical illusion?
Is it a case where you make a film about a topic, it's preoccupied your interests, and so you've sort of put on the police state spectacles, and everywhere you look, it's police state, police state, police state, and you're somehow editing out things that are happening that are not related to the police state.
But no, I don't think that's it.
The manifestations of the police state are pushing themselves forward, are advancing.
We all realize that the film is what puts it all together and actually brings it home visually, intellectually, emotionally, and in a way that nothing really else can.
But here, and I want to go through this in some depth, is an expose in Newsweek, of all places.
The title, Exclusive...
Donald Trump followers targeted by FBI as 2024 election nears.
Now, initially I thought, is this some opinion piece someone is writing about their fear?
No. This is apparently a news article that uses as its sources people high up within the FBI and within the other police agencies of government.
And they also talk to other people who are analysts who have been following what's going on inside the FBI and inside the Biden regime.
And the whole picture is chilling because now they're coming out and saying explicitly, yeah, you know, one of our main targets is MAGA. It's Trump supporters.
And we're going to be focusing on them in the lead up to the 2024 election.
So I'll give you my bottom line, which is that I think this is the police state kind of coming out into the open.
This is the police state basically saying, listen, we are surveilling you.
In the past, the police state had to hide and disguise itself and say things like, well, you know, we're above politics.
No, no, we're not interested in people's ideology.
We're not interested in political convictions.
We're not interested in peaceful demonstrations.
We're not targeting people, per se.
We're targeting crimes and potential crimes.
So, if you're plotting to rob the bank, if you're plotting to overthrow the government, if you're plotting to assassinate somebody, well, yeah, you should rightly be in the crosshairs of the FBI. But now they're saying, we are looking at ideology, we are looking at opinion, we are looking at people, and we are looking at a specific group that just happens to be perhaps the most powerful force in the Republican Party.
So, you have one party, Under Biden, using the police agencies of government to explicitly and publicly and consciously target the other party, or at least a large faction of that party, perhaps the predominant one.
Here's the headline.
The federal government believes the threat of violence and major civil disturbances around the 2024 election is so great that it has quietly created a new category of extremists that it seeks to track and counter Donald Trump's army of MAGA followers.
Now just digest that statement alone.
The Trump, not just Trump, but Trump Followers are now going to be quote, tracked and countered by the FBI. And this is a whole escalation and we have to recognize it as such.
The challenge for the FBI, the primary federal agency, is to pursue and prevent what it calls domestic terrorism.
I like what it calls domestic terrorism because even Newsweek now realizes that a lot of what they're calling domestic terrorism isn't maybe domestic, but it's not terrorism in any meaningful sense of the word.
Let's back up for a second and let's recall what terrorists are.
Well, let's look at the people Here and around the world who are terrorists.
The IRA. Think of groups in other countries that dress in military uniforms, they bomb buildings, they bomb banks, they take hostages.
You see any of that happening in the United States?
Has that occurred on the part of Trump or the MAGA followers?
Not at all. Nothing like it.
Or in America, we had terrorism.
We had domestic terrorism in the 1960s.
Let's look at somebody that I've debated and that Debbie and I have gotten to know, even if somewhat distantly, Bill Ayers.
Well, Bill Ayers and his now-wife, Bernadine Dorn, were domestic terrorists.
What did that mean? They went underground, they hid from the police, they collected ammunitions and explosives, they talked about, they made lists of targets like we're going to bomb the Pentagon, we're going to bomb certain federal buildings, and they had justifications for it, of course, and terrorists always do. In the case of Bill Airs, it was like, listen, the US government is perpetrating more violence in Vietnam, so we are entitled to use violence here at home to stop that machine. We are allies of the North Vietnamese.
So there was a sort of an ideological framework behind this.
But nevertheless, this is the MO of terrorist groups.
And this MO is completely absent from anything happening with the MAGA movement.
And yet, the MAGA people are being targeted, are being tagged, are being followed, are being tracked as terrorists.
So this is a vicious police state tactic being used by the Biden administration.
And I'm not imagining it.
It's not a product of me putting on a police state lens.
The movie may be coming, but the police state to some degree is here.
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I'm continuing my discussion of this Newsweek expose, which reveals how the Biden regime is targeting MAGA and Trump supporters as domestic terrorists as the 2024 election gets closer.
Newsweek's booked over a dozen current or former government officials who specialize in terrorism in a three-month investigation.
And what you have in this investigation is the FBI now openly admitting, top officials of the FBI, that MAGA is itself a potential terrorist category and they are viewing it as such.
To the degree that you and I identify as MAGA, we are already right now under the surveillance, under the eyes, under the gaze of the FBI. I mean, in my case, I assume it to be true.
I've just made a film about it.
Hey, by the way, Elon Musk just tweeted out the film last night and said that the FBI needs a, I forget his word, thoroughgoing or systematic Rebuilding or reconstruction.
And my trailer, which is up on my X feed, which had, gosh, I think it was 3.4 million views, is now, honey, what is it, like 30 million views?
30 million views as of this morning.
I mean, that outstripped even my expectations and 40 million views, it's some ridiculously high number, but it's great.
And thank you, Elon Musk, for helping get this word out because the trailer alone is a kind of preview of what we are, of the police state that is encroaching on us.
So thank you for helping me to push that word out.
And by the way, if you haven't gotten your tickets to the film, I hear there are some people who are now talking about, you know, buying out all the tickets in the theater and taking their groups and so on.
I mean, I encourage this, but I think it also means that you need to get your tickets now.
Don't wait till the last minute.
PoliceStateFilm.net is...
So you have the Newsweek expose, which is a decent news report, but then you have my film, which really brings the force to this topic.
According to Newsweek, the FBI has been mobilized by all these statements by prominent figures in the Biden regime about the danger posed by MAGA, starting with Biden himself.
Now... No one is questioning elections being held now or in the future without knowledge of what are the measures being taken to secure the vote and make sure that the votes are legitimate.
Obviously, if there are no guardrails in place, obviously, if there's blatant cheating, obviously, if there are manifest and manifold opportunities to cheat, people are going to go, wait a minute, that's not a fair election.
And it's almost like Biden is saying that to say that Either about 2020 or 2022 or 2024 is somehow to put yourself into a terrorist category.
I mean, how reprehensible, how disgraceful is that?
Similar statements from the Homeland Security Advisor Liz Sherwood Randall, Attorney General Merrick Garland, Attacks by domestic terrorists are attacks on all of us collectively aimed at rending the fabric of our democratic society and driving us apart.
So apparently we are driving people apart, not him.
The police state tactics being used by the regime are not divisive.
Those are in fact unifying.
And I suppose in some twisted way, if you think about it from the police state mentality and also from a socialist or communist mentality...
If you shut down all dissident voices and you lock up everybody who is not sort of with the program, you do have a unified society.
Why? Because you've created one.
You have thinned out everybody else.
You've taken them out of the picture.
Their votes don't count.
You've locked them up. So this is, as I say, scary stuff.
And evidently, the FBI has added a new category that To the groups that it monitors, people who are, quote, Then they decided, well, we're not going to call it terrorism necessarily.
We're going to call it extremism, because extremism could lead to terrorism, could lead to violence.
And what's extreme? Well, the beauty of extremism as a label is we get to define the center.
We say the center is right here.
And so if you're not close to the center...
You're extreme.
Extreme, of course, from our point of view.
We're not extreme. We're actually the center itself.
We define what's extreme.
So this is a manipulation of language.
It's a manipulation of political categories.
And then we say, anybody who's trying to further a political and social agenda, basically all our political rivals, all our political opponents, they're the extreme ones.
They're the ones who threaten democracy.
So, in other words, you redefine democracy as not a choice between two parties.
Which is occurring within democracy.
Rather, you redefine democracy so that your political opponents are against democracy, and you are somehow, or at least you have proclaimed yourself, the great defender of democracy.
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I'm continuing my discussion of the Newsweek expose that Trump and Trump followers, the so-called MAGA movement, are now explicitly being targeted, tracked by the FBI. What a pass we have come to as a country.
And you see the extreme urgency of this film, Police State, which blows the lid off of all of this.
Newsweek says that Trump and MAGA are not mentioned explicitly in the FBI documents, but they say government insiders concede that, yes, that is the group we are talking about.
Quote, And he says, so yes, in practical terms, it refers to MAGA, though the carefully constructed language is wholly nonpartisan.
MAGA is the target.
We won't say that MAGA is the target because then we're going to have to explain how one side of the political aisle could possibly be identified as an FBI target.
Isn't this straight out police state tactics?
So they go, let's not call it that, but everybody knows it's that.
We certainly will clearly communicate within the FBI that it is that.
So here's another senior intelligence official who requested anonymity.
We've crossed the Rubicon.
Trump's army constitutes the greatest threat of violence domestically, politically.
That's the reality and the problem set.
That's what the FBI as a law enforcement agency has to deal with.
Now, this statement requires a lot of evidence and backing.
And where is that evidence?
Where is the evidence that Trump supporters constitute the greatest threat of domestic violence?
Is it because they have done the greatest amount of domestic violence?
No. Is it because you have manuals and statements from them that they are planning to or intend to do domestic violence?
No. So, what is the basis for this statement?
To my knowledge, there is no basis for it at all.
This is a case where they simply declare it to be true, Biden says it's true, Merrick Garland says it's true, Christopher Wray says it's true, and then all the groupies, all the apparatchiks, are then moved into line to act as if it were true.
The FBI does something that is a terminology within the FBI. It's called an assessment.
An assessment is a formal term.
It's not the usual, you know, I made an assessment as I crossed the street.
No, this is a file.
An assessment means you open up a file, we're doing an evaluation, we're studying a particular phenomenon, and basically you don't do that unless you suspect wrongdoing, you suspect that somebody is going to commit a crime, going to unleash some kind of act of violence, and now you're going to look further at them, look further at their background.
It's a form of domestic surveillance, of domestic spying, and essentially the FBI is...
Announcing through Newsweek that we are now escalating our assessments of MAGA and Trump supporters.
Now, how should we respond to this?
I don't think we should respond to this with any kind of...
Well, a little bit of rational trepidation or caution is in order.
And I'm very conscious of that.
I mean, I don't send out a text or even make a private comment in a way, except recognizing that, you know what?
Somebody could be trying to record this.
Somebody could be trying to make something of this.
So... We're not going to give them ammunition.
They have already told us they're looking for it.
And so this is a...
We got to say, it's not...
At one time, I would have found it so preposterous if you had talked about, you know, an American KGB, an American Stasi, which was the East German secret police, or the hated and infamous Gestapo under the Nazis.
But we do have a Gestapo now in the United States, and it is called the Federal Bureau of Investigation.
One of the really striking things to me about rereading Solzhenitsyn's Gulag Archipelago is I am seeing more direct parallels between the Gulag and our own society than I did when I first read the work.
Because I thought that, look, Stolgenius is talking about a full-fledged police state.
We are not there yet.
So it is only by some stretching or at least looking to the future, maybe with foreboding, that we can see the connection.
But no, the connection is actually much more vivid and much more, well, frightening.
He starts off by talking in this section about Criminal Code of 1926, and he talks about a single article of all the 140 articles, and this is called Article 58.
Now, this is very analogous, by the way, to how the Biden regime has taken single clauses in the federal laws, the huge accordion book of federal laws, like obstruction of justice or even obstructing a federal proceeding.
And then use that as a battering ram to go after people and lock them up for long periods of time for what, if someone did this on the left, would be just a complete nothing.
So, here says Solzhenitsyn, he's now putting forward the Article 58,"...propaganda or agitation containing an appeal for the overthrow, subverting, or weakening of the Soviet power, and the dissemination or preparation or possession of literary materials of similar content." And Solzhenitsyn says, in peacetime, the minimum penalty is set for this, but there's no upper limit.
There's no maximum penalty.
In other words, you could go to prison for life.
And then he tells a vignette that's become very famous from the Gulag Archipelago.
He talks about a district party conference that is underway in Moscow province.
At the conclusion of the conference, he writes, a tribute to Comrade Stalin was called for.
The small hall echoed with stormy applause, rising to an ovation for three minutes, four minutes, five minutes.
And then he says people were getting a little tired.
People, their palms were getting sore.
Their raised arms were already aching.
The older people were panting from exhaustion.
And he goes, the whole thing was becoming kind of silly because even people who liked Stalin...
Even with people who adored Stalin found this a little ridiculous.
However, says Solzhenitsyn, asking the key question, who would dare to be the first to stop?
To stop applauding?
He says the secretary of the district party committee, in other words, the top communist in attendance, could have done it.
He was standing on the platform.
He had called for the ovation.
But, says Solzhenitsyn, he was a newcomer.
And then he says in this small obscure hall, the applause went on six, seven, eight minutes.
And he goes, now it's a problem.
People were really getting exhausted, but everyone was scared.
Nobody wanted to be the first to stop applauding.
And then he says, after 11 minutes, when the whole thing had gotten totally out of hand, the director of the paper factory, this is the venue for the event, assumed a business-like expression and sat down in the seat.
And he says, And oh, a miracle took place.
Way had the universal, uninhibited, indescribable enthusiasm gone.
To a man, everybody else stopped dead and sat down.
They had been saved. The squirrel had been smart enough to jump off his revolving wheel.
This is the beauty of Solzhenitsyn's writing.
And he says that was, however, how they discovered who the independent people were.
Who's they? The Soviet authorities.
This is how they figured out these are the troublemakers, the people who sort of lead the group, the first person to sort of get off the treadmill.
And that was how they went about eliminating them.
That same night, the factory director was arrested.
They easily pasted 10 years on him.
On the pretext of something quite different.
Again, think of the similarity here.
We can't get somebody for this.
Let's go get him for that.
Here's Letitia James.
I want to get Trump on a criminal offense.
I can't get him. Didn't do anything really.
All right, that's okay.
We'll get him on the civil charge.
We'll try to destroy his company.
So you find a different pretext.
But after he had signed Form 206, the final document of the interrogation, his interrogator reminded him...
Don't ever be the first to stop applauding.
So this is the lesson of the police state.
And that is that everything that you think and feel gets suppressed.
You are supposed to have artificial feelings.
If you have a grocery store, and I mentioned this in a different context from Vaclav Havel, you've got to put up a big sign, Workers of the World Unite!
It's a false slogan.
It doesn't represent your thoughts.
You're doing it for a completely different reason, really, as a mark of fear.
You're doing it to say, I'm a conformist.
I'll follow the authority.
And similarly here, applause is not because you genuinely, internally love Stalin.
It's rather that this is what is expected of you.
And if you don't go along, there are eyes looking at you.
Now, today, those eyes may be electronic.
In the days of Solzhenitsyn, it was just a bunch of guys standing in the back room.
But either way, it is a powerful message to the citizenry.
Don't take us on because we have ways of dealing with you.
We have ways of disposing of you.
Don't be the first to stop applauding.
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