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Wielding Power Dinesh D’Souza Podcast Ep 656
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Today we're going to be discussing the Biden administration's clamping down on and potentially jailing pro-life protesters who don't like seeing little babies being killed off.
Then we're going to talk about the climate change agenda and what it means for you and me.
Then later we have Florida congressional candidate Anthony Sabatini joining the show.
You won't want to miss it. So let's get started America needs this voice The times are crazy, and a time of confusion, division, and lies.
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I'm Brandon Gill, filling in for Dinesh this week while he takes some time off.
One thing that Americans with a moral conscience increasingly have to grapple with is what it means to live under a regime that punishes good, decent, God-fearing people doing good and decent things while sheltering and defending evil people who do evil things.
That's something five pro-lifers will have to think about possibly for the next 11 years.
Earlier this week, the Biden administration's DOJ convicted five pro-life activists for violating the FACE Act and for conspiracy against rights.
They were peacefully protesting at one of the most barbaric abortion facilities in the nation.
The five Americans, Lauren Handy, Herb Jurati, Heather Idoni, Will Goodman, and John Henshaw were immediately incarcerated following the ruling.
According to the judge, that's because their violation was a crime of violence.
That of course is a lie and a pretext to lock up good decent American citizens who oppose the left's regime of death.
The FACE Act is the Freedom of Access to Clinic Entrances Act.
It was passed under President Bill Clinton and it prohibits interfering with people who are trying to obtain reproductive health services.
And according to the law, and particularly according to the left, that includes abortion.
The activists were protesting at a clinic run by abortionist Cesar Santangelo.
In Washington, he is referred to as the Butcher of D.C. The facility he runs is an utterly horrifying operation, at least any person with a sense of decency.
In 2013, pro-life group Live Action sent an undercover reporter to the clinic.
She was pretending to be a mother seeking an abortion.
On video, Santangelo admitted candidly that he wouldn't offer medical services to the child if he were born alive in the facility.
Santangelo effectively assured the woman that if her child was born prior to the abortion killing him, the child would die in the clinic from exposure and he would make sure of it.
That's enough to fill any normal, moral, decent person with righteous indignation.
But it's also a violation of federal law which requires abortionists to provide life-saving treatments to children born alive in their clinics, whether those children were supposed to have been murdered or not.
But neither Santangelo nor anybody at his clinic was targeted by any meaningful legal action.
And last year, over 115 bodies of slaughtered children were found outside his clinic.
Five of them were determined to be gestational age, meaning they were between 20 and 40 weeks old.
One of the baby boys was nearly full term.
That means that depending on the method of abortion, his murder could have been illegal.
But still, nothing happened.
So in 2020, five pro-life Americans decided to protest outside Santangelo's abortion facility.
Their lawyer described what they did.
Some simply kneeled and prayed at Santangelo's facility.
Some passed out pro-life literature and counseled abortion-minded women.
And others roped and chained themselves together inside the facility.
That doesn't sound like a violent or a dangerous protest, if you ask me.
For their crimes, they're now facing 11 years in federal prison, followed by three years of supervised release, and up to $350,000 in fines, all for peacefully protesting abortion.
Our government, led by leftists from Joe Biden at the top to Kamala Harris to the deep state bureaucracy to prosecutors all over the country and on down, will go to any lengths necessary to defend infanticide, even in the most heinous forms like partial birth abortion.
They're committed to it.
It's almost like they've sold their souls, because they probably have.
And to the left, somebody else's right to easy, simple, unencumbered access to murder their child, even a baby old enough to survive outside the womb, supersedes your right to speak out against it.
It's not politically correct to say so anymore, but that's the definition of evil.
Democrats like to label pro-lifers as the radicals, the ones who want to take women's rights away.
But what's more radical?
Wanting to preserve life or killing a perfectly viable innocent baby weeks before birth?
After the Republican debates last week, there was a lot of talk about whether Democrats supported unrestricted abortion.
Jen Psaki tweeted afterwards, quote, No one supports abortion up until birth.
But if that's true, why is no leftist concerned about the butcher of D.C. saying he will withhold medical care from a living, viable child born in his facility?
And when's the last time a leftist has agreed to any meaningful restrictions on abortion at all?
Jen Psaki seems quite confident that they would, but if so, when?
Where does Jen Psaki draw the line?
At what point in her mind or in the mind of any leftist is a baby in the womb safe from an abortionist's forceps?
She won't answer that question.
Most leftists won't because they don't believe in any restrictions on any form of infanticide anywhere.
That's the position the modern-day Democrat Party has adopted.
It's their new orthodoxy.
And that's not just my hyperbole.
In May of last year, Joe Biden, who claims to be a practicing Catholic, endorsed the Women's Health Protection Act, which would have codified abortion up until birth across the country in all 50 states, including partial birth abortions.
Kamala Harris indicated she supported the legislation as well, and 46 Senate Democrats voted for it too.
Many of them have stated outright they support no restrictions to abortion whatsoever, people like John Fetterman and Elizabeth Warren to name a few.
And then there was former Virginia Governor Ralph Northam, who openly advocated murdering babies after they were born.
According to him, if a woman were giving birth but wanted to abort the child, and I'm quoting, quote, The infant would be delivered.
The infant would be kept comfortable.
The infant would be resuscitated if that's what the mother and family desired.
And then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother.
That's the discussion of whether to murder the baby or not.
And no Democrat leader spoke out against him for saying this.
So to say that Democrats haven't wholeheartedly adopted the abortionist agenda is a lie.
It's hard to imagine that political pundits and left-wing politicians can casually and with sterile simplicity describe the process of tortuously dismembering a live child as a medical procedure.
But that's exactly what they do.
They prove themselves to possess a moral imagination that is impenetrably dark and almost unfathomably depraved.
And I say almost, because if you're a Christian, the left's darkness is fathomable.
Because we believe in good and evil, and we understand there are very real, palpable and personified moral forces active in the world.
We have a choice which side we want to be on, and it's a decision with existential consequences.
And the left has made their choice.
They are absolutely committed to the side that embraces infanticide.
And the more the better.
Safe, legal, and rare is not their ideal, and it never was.
We cannot pretend that it ever was.
They will defend infanticide and ruthlessly punish anybody who stands on their path.
So it raises the question, one that's difficult to answer here, but one that we have to grapple with, is what do we make of a government that supports this?
One that will refuse to prosecute some of the most grotesque crimes against humanity imaginable, and But tries to lock up pro-lifers who speak out against them.
The question we have to wrestle with because we can't get rid of this current regime soon enough.
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Climate change is apparently heating up, especially in Europe.
Britain's Climate Change Committee, called the CCC, just one letter different than the CCP, the Chinese Communist Party, is urging millions of Britons to not heat their homes in the evening.
It's all part of the British government's goal to hit its net zero carbon target.
According to Zero Hedge, quote, Chris Stark, head of the CCC, wants ordinary citizens to turn off their electric heaters' heat pumps at night as part of a wider drive to deliver emission savings, which includes a shift away from gas boilers, which Chris, a hypocrite, still has.
Contained in a document on behavior change, the CCC recommends that Britons instead preheat their houses in the afternoons when electricity use is lower and would theoretically save families money.
According to Tory MP Craig McEnly, head of his party's Net Zero Scrutiny Group, it's becoming clear that adherence to judicial carbon budgets and edicts coming from the CCC are developing into a farce.
And that is true that edicts for most left-wing environmental groups are a farce.
The Tory party is also kind of a farce too, but that's another story.
One thing that's also entertaining, I think, is it's amazing whenever you look at the leaders of Great Britain, the ones they've produced over the past couple decades, it's almost impossible to imagine that this is the same country that produced great leaders like Richard I or But the bigger question here is,
at what point can we just admit that the climate change agenda on the whole is, in fact, just a way to create two classes of people, the haves and the have-nots?
This proposal is just one among many, so many that we've seen from the green agenda over the past several days, weeks, and years, really.
The goal is social stratification.
On the one hand, there are the elites immune from the effects of the society they're pushing for, and then there's everybody else.
One group can fly in private jets, the other can't.
One group can own multiple homes that use as much energy as they want.
The other lives in tiny apartments, little cells packed on top of each other in very large and usually crime-ridden cities.
One group drives fast cars, the other drives electric cars or rides bikes.
One group eats at Michelin-starred restaurants, steakhouses.
The other foregoes meat altruistically for the sake of the environment.
They get their protein from carcinogenic factory-made foods or from bugs.
That's the future the left wants.
It's the one they're openly pushing for, especially in Europe.
And the most important thing is that one group gets to have children, as many as they want, whenever they want.
The other has as few children as possible, and preferably none.
Children use up resources, we're told.
They aren't a blessing from God, they're bad for the environment.
If you're a Christian, you know God told us unequivocally to be fruitful and multiply, and that wasn't a suggestion, it was a command.
But to the environmentalist left, who sees humans as no different than the rest of the animal kingdom, it's merely another made-up command to ignore.
And that's true for most of the God-ordained order of the universe.
Because when God created the universe, and the book of Genesis is very clear about this, he created a moral hierarchy.
At the top is people.
It was Adam and Eve then.
Now it's us. Below us are animals, and below that is everything else.
And we're commanded to rule over the earth, to subdue it, to have dominion over it.
But the thing is, you don't really have to be a Christian or be Jewish or have any affinity for the creation plan laid out in Genesis and in the rest of the Bible to believe this.
In reality, it's self-evident.
You can ignore it. You can try to rationally explain it away.
This hierarchy manifests itself every day.
You see it. The rational, conscious, self-aware creatures, us, we're at the top and everything else is below us.
And inanimate objects, water and rocks and the soil, the earth, are at the bottom.
Of course, that's not to say that we don't steward the earth, that we don't have responsibilities for it.
We certainly do.
We should take responsibility for the earth and we should care for it.
It's the world God gave us.
But that is to say that we must be very clear what our priorities are.
And that's something the climate change people get wrong.
But that's because they do believe in a hierarchy, just not the one God created.
They believe in a hierarchy amongst people, the elites and everybody else.
And the climate change agenda is a good way to push that.
Because in reality, the Green Revolution is a green light for all kinds of transformational, social, and political changes that in any other context would never be politically palatable to any American or Westerner, liberal or conservative.
Prior to the climate crisis, if any politician in any Western nation suggested citizens of the most wealthy nations to have ever existed should forego heating their homes at night, That politician would be out of office immediately.
That should be the case now.
The global left's green energy transition plans are fraudulent and everybody knows it.
Our entire civilization is inseparably bound to fossil fuels and that's not going to change for decades if not a century.
It's fine to want to move to new energy sources whether it be wind or solar or hydropower or whatever else.
That's good. Nuclear is a great option, and that's another topic of discussion as well.
I'd love it if we could move to alternative energy, but any energy transition has to be done with a realistic conception of what energy sources are currently viable and which ones aren't.
Because when we upend our social structure for the sake of novel and inefficient means of running our economy and our lives, the people who are most hurt aren't the ones pushing this.
It's the working class who pays the highest price.
They're the ones who are told to make the biggest changes.
They're the ones who can't adapt on a dime to a radically different way of living.
Liberals like to complain about what they believe to be the regressive tax structures the right pushes and for economic policies like a flat tax, for example.
Policies they incorrectly say hurt those at the bottom of the socioeconomic ladder more than those at the top.
Yet their entire social policy, especially their energy agenda, affects the working class far more acutely than anybody else.
And it's partly because it's designed that way.
The climate change agenda weakens a class of people, anybody not in the economic and political elite.
It makes them more dependent on government and establishes what is essentially an impenetrable class distinction and social hierarchy between the haves and the have-nots.
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Welcome back to the Dinesh D'Souza podcast.
I'm Brandon Gill.
Filling in for Dinesh this week, he'll be back on Monday.
We've got a guest here with us.
His name is Anthony Sabatini.
Anthony is the chairman of the Lake County Republican Party in Florida.
He's currently the candidate for Florida's 11th congressional district.
Anthony, thanks for joining us.
Hey, thanks for having me on.
Appreciate it, Brian. Yeah, I want to start.
There was an instance earlier this week where Mitch McConnell was giving a press conference and he sort of froze up after somebody asked him a question.
It's the second time this has happened in the last few weeks.
We've noticed over the past several decades, Congress has been getting older and older and older and it's obviously becoming a pretty serious problem.
What's your take on that?
Well, my initial response is him freezing up sometimes is good because then he's not able to pass really bad legislation around the Democrat agenda or Joe Biden, which oftentimes that's what he's known for.
But no, it's really pathetic and sad and a major opportunity, I think, for the America first part of the Republican Party to highlight the corruption of the establishment.
They vote corruptly, they do bad things.
But now that you see that quite literally they're so addicted to power and just being in positions of power that they're willing to really hurt the country.
I mean, quite literally, he's hurting the country in a material way.
If you're that ill, you cannot move, you cannot speak, and you're still occupying that position of power.
It just shows the innate corrupt core of a person like that.
And so, you know, we just really need to kind of focus on this and talk about it and let the voters know that this part of the Republican Party and this part of the unit party functions as one thing, and it just needs to be dispelled with it, it needs to be pushed away, and it's just innately bad.
McConnell has been a plague on their GOP since the early days.
He's absolutely awful.
And there is no better physical manifestation of just how corrupt that wing of the party is than seeing them quite literally not being able to speak or move, but still trying to And then also just the pathetic aides around them who are like, sir, sir, can you speak or hear the question?
Like, how disgusting are these people that they're almost preying on him?
Why wouldn't they just have the courage to say it's time for you to step down instead of just, you know, allowing him to go on like that?
Yeah, I always hope that by the time I'm in my late 70s or early 80s, I'm smoking a lot of cigars and hanging out with my grandkids and not doing the kinds of things that Mitch McConnell's doing.
Oh, it's just pathetic.
Yeah, you have all these grandkids, potentially great-grandkids, and you'd rather be standing in the hallway getting laughed up by reporters because you can't speak.
Right, exactly. Yeah.
And there's been a lot of pushback against Mitch McConnell for several years now, but it doesn't seem like it's gone anywhere.
Obviously, he's still leader of the party in the Senate.
You talk a lot about House Republicans, and I think this is relevant for senators, both in the House and in the Senate.
You talk a lot about House Republicans and how they have no courage.
What exactly do you mean by that?
Well, absolutely. I'd love to talk about that.
But first, let me say one thing about that question in regards to McConnell.
So for like 10 years, McConnell's been this boogeyman.
Everybody talks about how bad he is, how awful he is.
But you saw quite literally no Republicans in the Senate do anything to fight back against him.
I mean, even the Tea Party senators, other than maybe holding up a spending bill once or twice early in the 2010s, you saw no real fight. The first senator to ever actually challenge McConnell in a real way was my home state Senator Rick Scott six months ago, which surprised a lot of us. He got 10 votes. The vote count was 37 to 10. And the people that voted for Rick Scott for majority leader were sort of the usual suspects.
It would be Rand Paul, Josh Hawley, Marco Rubio, the other home state senator.
Some fought back against McConnell, but most, as you can see, were totally behind McConnell.
So it's just very important to make sure that voters understand this so they can vote out those senators in primaries.
Because if most people knew that these fast-talking, cool-sounding senators who talk about how How much they're working for us in D.C. were voting for Mitch McConnell year after year, I think they would lose primaries.
But that vote, that 37-10 vote has not been exposed enough.
But in regards, just in general, what the Republicans can do to use power is quite literally almost everything other than what they're doing.
Here's what I really mean by that.
The best way to understand what the Republican Party should be doing, quite literally, very simply, is just look at what the Democrats are doing.
Just copy their playbook.
It's why they won. It's why they went from having positions that were considered the fringe of the fringe in the 1950s, 60s, or even early 70s to beyond mainstream today.
It's because quite literally they fought and used every ounce of power that was given to them or that wasn't given to them.
And the best example of this, I just wrote a piece for it in the Telegraph last week, and it's how each party dealt with the other party's executive and leader of the party when they're in power.
And so Donald Trump, before he was even in power, they were going after Flynn.
They were going after Trump.
Obviously they destroyed the first two and a half years of his presidency with the Russian collusion fake hoax.
They knew it was fake, but they knew it would bog him down.
They did two impeachments on top of that.
And then of course they've indicted him four times.
We're looking at another major civil case in New York State with Letitia James this week.
That's how the Democrats play.
And then almost nobody in the party thought or acted differently than that.
They truly used power to take down and disable the leader of the opposition party.
The Republicans on the other hand, right, and the best way to understand it is just through the contrast, have quite literally done almost nothing.
There's been one subcommittee that's asked a few questions about Biden and Hunter.
It's got a little bit of play in the media, but they haven't really done anything significant or really even used subpoenas in a meaningful way.
Definitely in no way have bogged down the presidency like we saw with Russiagate or made an attempt to try to replicate that in any way.
In fact, they're really stuck in what I call the Benghazi 2.0 mode, where you have these committees that are great for Fox News pieces, great for fundraising, but actually in no way get the administration, executive administration of the opposite party to react.
And so they're using power in an opposite way.
By that I mean they're not using it at all.
But unfortunately, there's a perverse incentive to do that because they can still fundraise and get reelected and get their base excited on it, but without having to take any serious risk or do anything that would be considered out of the ordinary.
So that's an example of just how they're acting.
Another, and I would say actually probably more important example of using power would be the power of the purse.
And Ross Boat at Center for Renewing America and other important organizations, but mostly just to have highlighted the misuse or non-use of the budget, the pecuniary power, the so-called power of the purse, the power of the Congress to cut off funding to programs and things that they don't think are good and things that are worse than that, that are actually harming Americans.
And they've been unwilling to do that.
You know, we have a freedom caucus of, on paper, probably 45 people, and in actuality, it's about 20.
So roughly the 20 people that voted against Kevin McCarthy in the first 14 rounds of the speaker vote back in January.
And those are really the only people who are using power, thinking about power the way Democrats would, which is let's use every ounce of our energy to stop the administration in its tracks.
And the only way we can do that in a measurable way other than through subpoenas and Commission investigations is through defunding the administration.
And they're simply not doing that.
They're just not even talking about it really other than a few congressmen.
We, of course, voted for the debt ceiling with very few concessions.
It was a Potemkin, it was a Kabuki theater type, what do you call it, a win when they said we might cut one bill.
Or two agencies by 1% next year.
If we don't get an omnibus, of course, that's not going to happen.
But in terms of stopping the weaponization of government, nothing was done, not even the IRS agents.
But that option was on the table.
If you have Republicans come together and fight like the way Democrats do, you see these universal Democrat votes where nobody dissents when it comes against fighting something the Republicans want.
The Republicans won't do that.
We have too many RINOs and we have too many establishment types.
But if you have that, you could defund most of what the Biden administration is doing on any subject, on the IRS agents, on Ukraine, on the weaponization government, in the military, etc.
And of course these investigations into Donald Trump.
You know, you could literally zero them out.
You could quite literally use the Holman vote to get rid of Jack Smith, get rid of elements of the DOJ that are assisting in the two federal indictments of Donald Trump.
They won't do it. And then just, I know this was a long answer, but a final note on the similar problem, but at the state level, you got, I mean, this mentality of defense only and do as little as possible and You know, could you imagine if the Democrats did this, even though the Democrats are already doing it, pervades even at the state and local level.
You look at the Georgia Republican Party.
There's actually, quite literally, they have almost supermajorities in the House and Senate, they have the governorship, they have the cabinet, everything.
They literally have one state senator.
Senator, his name is Colton Moore.
He's the only state senator that is quite literally talking about coming together, having a special session, defunding or taking away power from Fannie Willis or removing her cases, or even at a minute of putting her on the stand, getting her to testify, looking at the materials that she's using, comparing, contrasting what she's putting into this investigation versus normal street crime in Fulton County.
One senator.
So once again, it's not just a D.C. problem.
It's really a GOP elected official mentality that we can't root out.
If you ask me, I think it's been in the party since the 60s, back when we owned the country, when the conservatives ran this country.
You know, our cultural sort of ways were dominant.
We just thought defense was enough, you know?
Just play defense. Just be down to the left when it's trying to stick its head up.
Well, now that we've lost, it's like the Republicans can't understand that you've got to be on offense.
You've got to see yourself as a counteroffense-type entity, and they just won't do it.
It's impossible, but it is changing a little bit.
Yeah, and why do you think that they won't do it?
Because to your point, whenever Democrats get power, they approach it with a Machiavellian intensity.
And whenever we get power, we kind of take a back seat.
And it's kind of like one-sided disarmament.
And it seems like for the past probably 10 or 15 or maybe 20 years, we've had Republicans every single election cycle running as being the outsider, the people who aren't part of the swamp.
I think it's over-determined by that.
I mean, there's like three or four different sources that blend together that determine that sort of outcome.
But one of the major ones for me is what I was just mentioning, which is there's been a historic accepted mentality in the Republican Party that defense is good enough.
And I would actually suggest really in the 50s and the 60s defense wasn't good enough If you would have just stopped some of the crazy new left programs that were coming through And fought back against you know The rapid expansion government and just sort of slowed it down or tried to stop all of it America would still be in a really good place but you have to it's like Republicans and Newscasters elected officials don't want to accept the fact that we really did essentially lose most of the country and its institutions over the last 50 years and
And that's okay, but there's still a chance we could fight and get them back.
But what you need is to go on offense and get them back.
And you cannot get that into the mentality of the average Republican.
They still think defense is enough.
The Democrats say, we're going to politicize public school education and put LGBTQ lessons, K through 12th grade, mandatory.
It's going to be a class. It's going to be this, that, and the other thing.
Republican answer is, we're going to try to slow that down or stop that.
We're not going to do that until after the third grade.
If it's above the third grade, you can't.
And they don't realize you have to actually go on offense and you have to eliminate the left.
You have to beat them. You have to remove them from power.
And by that I mean, like, you have to shut down these corrupt university schools that are creating the teachers and the educrats that are pushing the policies to begin with.
You have to go to private or charter schools, I'm sorry, voucher schools, get the money out of this broken public education system and get it into the hands of Christian education, conservative education, any kind of values-based education.
It's very difficult for them to talk about that.
Additionally, you have a grifter problem on the right.
I think you have a lot of Republicans that they know better.
They get it. They know what the base wants to hear.
They know what they can get away with in DC, and they live in the insurgencies of that because what they do is they'll say exactly what a good congressman like Matt Gaetz or Paul Gosar is saying on the campaign trail, and they'll continue to say those things.
But when they get into Congress, they know that the average member of the base isn't going and checking all their votes and seeing everything and making sure that they are doing exactly what it is that they need to be doing to fight like the left fights.
Instead, they can just get by in the rhetoric.
And you'll talk to voters every day.
I do. I'm the chairman of a major party here.
And of course, I'm a candidate for Congress who literally can't tell the difference between one bad Republican and a good Republican because they're not looking at the votes and they're not looking at the minutia, the co-sponsorships, the procedural mechanisms they're using.
The rules of the House, for example, what the Republicans were fighting over forever in January, the rules of the House, which determined literally everything.
Most Republicans weren't really with us on those items and didn't understand them.
And so the few Republicans that are rhinos that speak up...
You know, they've learned their lesson and they basically quieted down.
You saw Dan Crenshaw in the last couple of years sort of expose himself as a major rhino and he was speaking very publicly against the Freedom Caucus and against conservative and a bag of things.
And he realized, oh, wow, like my reputation is getting out there.
And so what he's done, you'll see it in the last five months, is he's quieted down.
And you'll see this with a lot of the bad Republicans.
They'll talk, they'll say what the base wants to hear, they won't say about what they really think or how they vote, and they get by in D.C. And so that's contributed to a misinformation problem with the base.
I like to think that the only good Republicans we have, still at the end of the day, chase the base.
The base of the Republican Party is the real leadership of our party.
They just can't find enough good representatives to basically give them what they want.
And they found that with Donald Trump in 2016, he was willing to say and do the things, or at least say the things, definitely go into details about the things that they wanted, like stopping the invasion of our country, stopping terrorists from coming into the country, stopping crazy wars that don't benefit them and that benefit DC.
And so we just got to get Republicans that actually are in tune with the base and make sure the base knows who's who in these primary elections.
Right.
I don't think we're going to have an issue with that with you.
I really appreciate you coming on here, Anthony.
Again, he's chairman of the Lake County Republican Party and candidate for Florida's 11th congressional district.
Anthony, thanks for joining us.
Hey, thanks for having me on. God bless.
Welcome back to the Dinesh D'Souza podcast.
I'm Brandon Gill filling in for Dinesh this week.
He'll be back on Monday.
So if you guys watch the podcast, you've probably heard Dinesh and Debbie talk about my wife and I's baby, little Marigold.
She's about six weeks old now.
She's a cute little baby.
All I really want to do now is spend time and hang out with her.
I don't really care to do anything else, it seems like.
But as Danielle was pregnant, we were getting ready for Marigold to arrive.
We were kind of preparing to have a little baby, trying to watch baby videos and read books and watch lectures on raising children and things like that.
We're trying to learn as much as we can about their mental development, how we can best give them the best nutrition, things like that.
One of the things that we learned is that when we have babies, you have to give them a lot of stimulation.
You don't just give them food and kind of let them lay there.
You need to talk to them.
They need to see your face move.
They need to see facial expressions.
They need to look at things.
It's good to walk around with them, for example.
Just let them look at the world and take everything in.
Everything's new for them.
And one of the things that, as I was kind of learning about all of this, I came across a really interesting story.
And it's about child development, and it made me kind of think about what the left is doing to us, particularly with things like lockdowns and how they talk about our reaction to them.
The story, it was from the 13th century, and it was about Frederick II. He was Holy Roman Emperor at the time.
And he was really interested in language development.
So, his big question was, what is the natural language?
What is the language that, after God created the earth and he made Adam and Eve, what is the language that they spoke?
Nobody taught them language, and if somebody did, it was God.
So, what is this natural language?
Was it Hebrew or Latin or Greek or, for him, maybe Russian?
Yeah. So he decided to do an experiment.
And because he was head of the Holy Roman Emperor, he pretty much had dictatorial powers.
He could do whatever he wanted. So he commanded his people to find a few orphans in his kingdom.
And he got some women who would take care of them.
And he said, let's take these orphans and let's put them in a room basically by themselves with no contact with the outside world.
These are little babies. And he had these women who would care for them, but all they would do is give the orphans food.
They weren't to talk to the babies.
They weren't to do anything other than clean them and give them food, make sure they had solely their material needs.
And then his idea was, we'll just leave them like that for several years and we'll come back several years later and we'll open up the door to this room and we'll find out what language they're all speaking.
And whatever language they're speaking, that's the natural language.
So he did that and he found, had kind of an interesting result.
What happened was all the children, all the little babies died.
They had all of their material needs taken care of, but they had no emotional support.
They had no interaction with other people.
They were isolated and they all died.
It's kind of an extreme comparison, I recognize, but it did make me think about how the left thinks about lockdowns and the way they talk to us about them.
The left likes to talk about, we've got this deadly disease coming here, what they say is a deadly disease.
You need to stay in your home and not see people that you normally would see.
If your grandpa is at the hospital, don't go visit him.
You can't do that. If you want to go out to eat with your friends, you shouldn't be doing that.
If you want to go to your work and see your coworkers, you shouldn't do that.
You shouldn't be going to church.
You should isolate yourself.
And the way they talk about it is if you push back against them, you're somehow selfish.
If you're a teenager who wants to go on a date with somebody or wants to see his friends or get out of the house, you're doing that because you're selfish and you don't care about the rest of us and you need to get over that because that's a you problem because we've got a big emergency here.
And it kind of reminds me of that because there is something more to life and there's something more to being a person, being human, than just having your material needs met.
And this is something that goes really deep in the Western tradition.
Aristotle famously said that man is a social creature.
Jesus said something similar to that in a little bit different context, but whenever he said man does not live by bread alone, he's saying that there's more to the material universe and more to us than just pure materiality.
And I think that that's something the left doesn't recognize.
They see the world as being something that's made of sort of pure, unspiritual, material things.
Whereas we recognize that people, we have something deeper than just the things that make up our body.
We have souls. And because of that, we have needs that go beyond just eating.
And sleeping and making sure that we're clean and have a roof over our head.
There are certain needs that we have that have to be met.
And part of that is being social and interacting with people and going on dates with people and seeing friends and being out in the world.
We are social creatures.
That's very true.
And I think that this, again, this is a pretty...
It's a pretty extreme comparison.
But it does highlight the difference in the way a conservative and a liberal looks at who we are as people.
That's it for this week.
Thanks for joining us.
Again, my name is Brandon Gill.
Thanks for having me. I really had a great time with you guys.
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