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HOW THEY GOT RICH Dinesh D’Souza Podcast Ep641
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Coming up, I'll go into some bank records to reveal how precisely the Bidens got so rich on a government salary.
I'll examine how the Chinese system, which seems to be communist, but is really a modified form of classical fascism.
Debbie joins me for our Friday Roundup.
We'll talk about Trump's fate.
We'll talk about what life is like in Congress.
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New information from Representative James Comer and the House Oversight Committee shows that the Biden family has received upwards of $20 million from multiple countries paying through Hunter Biden or James Biden or Frank Biden to Joe Biden.
So this number keeps going up.
It was initially several million dollars, five or six million dollars, then over 10 million dollars, now over 20 million dollars.
So this is really how the Bidens got rich.
The Bidens didn't get rich any other way.
They have no other business.
They have no other form of getting money.
By and large, the Biden brothers are bums, by which I mean they have no way of getting anything approaching this kind of money.
They have put themselves into a company We're good to go.
How does this system kind of work?
One way we can understand it is by looking at a particular deal.
I'm going to focus on a Chinese energy company that is called CEFC China Energy.
And this Chinese energy company envisioned itself as trying to buy energy assets in the United States.
Why? This was part of the big Chinese Belt and Road Initiative, the Chinese making investments, which they are doing all over Asia, in the Middle East, in South America, in Africa.
So why not in the United States?
Acquire energy assets.
And this company, which was run by this guy named Yi Jianming, We wanted to do, as part of this Belt and Road Initiative, buy energy properties and energy companies in the United States.
But they needed to figure out a way to do that.
And they realized, well, how about if we bring the Bidens into this?
They sort of represent the U.S. government.
And if we can get Joe Biden on our side, then this will open all kinds of doors to us.
This will actually give us smooth sailing.
And in fact, it's going to put us kind of above criticism, above scrutiny after all the Bidens are involved.
So this is very much what Devin Archer testified, Hunter Biden's business partner.
Biden was the brand.
Joe Biden was the brand.
And there will be a deal between one of the most prominent families from the U.S., that's the Bidens, and China, constructed by me.
This is Hunter Biden's business partner, James Gilear, and he's texting Tony Bobulinski.
Remember, Tony Bobulinski was also brought in to be part of the Biden operation.
Now, this all seems to have begun all the way back in 2015.
In 2015, Hunter Biden meets with the CEFC Executive Director, a guy named Zhangjun Zhang.
and this is right there on Hunter Biden's laptop.
So you can see the schedule for that meeting.
And then discussions begin about how this company, CEFC Energy, can leverage the influence of the Bidens.
And a kind of a memo of understanding is sent and circulated within the Bidens.
Hunter Biden agrees to sign.
And this company now begins its courtship of the Bidens.
This fellow, Yi, whom I mentioned, meets with Hunter Biden, gives him a three-carat diamond, kind of a, you know, here's a little gift to show our goodwill.
I mean, this happens all over Asia.
People, when they meet each other, and this is whether you're brokering a marriage arrangement or a business deal, you give a gift.
And so the gift here, Oriental style, happens to be a diamond.
Joe Biden also meets with the CEFC officials according to an FBI interview report of Rob Walker made public by IRS whistleblowers in their testimony to Congress.
It's emails from Bob Ulinski referencing deals that deal with the big guy.
Remember that the big guy deserves 10%.
That's all in connection with this particular deal.
And this is the same deal that Hunter Biden sent the stinging message to the CEFC executive.
Remember where he said, I'm sitting with my dad.
You haven't made the payment.
I'm getting very angry.
We will both lash out at you if you don't make the payment.
The payment is due now.
So this is the way that the Bidens kind of Very mafia style.
Cash in. Listen, we're owed the money.
You better pay right now or bad things will happen to you.
And Hunter Biden and his associates and family members got millions of dollars in payments.
They got consulting money.
They got attorney's fees.
Even though the Chinese, in the end, didn't get anything.
Why? Because this is a complicated business.
They wanted to set up these energy companies.
But the whole thing kind of fell down.
What happened is that this guy Ye was reportedly placed under house arrest.
Another guy named Patrick Ho, who is apparently an executive of the same company, was arrested for bribery and money laundering.
And so from the Chinese side, there were legal problems that came up.
Partly from China, and the whole deal fell apart.
But nevertheless, it's an anatomy of the way in which, and I think to some degree, Biden has been doing this probably from his days going back to the Senate.
But he was probably doing it in the United States, shaking down companies in Delaware and elsewhere.
In order to basically get money for himself.
And this is how you buy the house.
This is how you buy a second car.
One interesting little detail is that one of the companies, I think it was Kazakhstan, has now revealed that they sent $142,000 to Hunter Biden to buy a car for himself.
So the Bidens are used to the, we'll do favors for you if you do favors for us.
And this is how millions of dollars have flowed into the Biden family's bank accounts.
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Continuing my discussion of how the Bidens got rich and the kind of corrupt shenanigans that they have been engaged in for years and years in order to accumulate the wealth that they have Let's remember that Joe Biden has multiple residences.
His residences are huge.
They're mansion-like properties.
One of them is on Rehoboth Beach in Delaware.
He's got another house in Delaware.
He's got a home in Washington, D.C. with tons of parking spaces.
So this is a family that has gone from zero to tens of millions of dollars.
Just, by the way, like the Clintons.
The Clintons were broke, they had no money, and then they had a great deal of money.
How do you go from, when you're a government guy, yeah, Bill Clinton makes some money on speeches, but that doesn't explain where the $100 million plus comes from.
And the same is true with the Bidens.
Now, Recently there was a plea agreement that went before a judge, Mary Ellen Noriega, and she looked at the plea agreement and she saw that not only were the prosecutorial office in Delaware,
this is David Weiss, making a deal with Hunter Biden that essentially in exchange for him pleading guilty to To some tax offenses, they would drop the gun charge and it looked like that's all it was about.
But then the judge noticed, wait a minute, there's another agreement referenced in this agreement and that will prevent Hunter Biden from really across-the-board prosecutions.
All other things that he did, including all the crimes that he's likely committed with his dad.
So this was really a cover-up attempt, and a hidden cover-up attempt.
And you now begin to worry about this fellow David Weiss, because he appears to be part of the problem.
He appears to be someone engaged in the business of letting the Bidens off the hook.
Not really letting Hunter Biden off the hook.
That's bad enough. But letting Joe Biden off the hook.
That's really the guy that they're covering for.
In the end, it's all about the head of the Corleone family.
But the judge notices and she's like, whoa.
And so the deal has been put on hold.
And it's like, go back to the drawing board.
I want to see a little more clearly what this deal involves.
But as part of this, as part of Hunter Biden's He's had to fess up about where he's gotten money from and how much.
And this is very interesting because Joe Biden has emphatically insisted that the Biden family has not gotten money.
He, Joe Biden, has not gotten money.
And Hunter Biden hasn't gotten money either.
Joe Biden, my son, has not made money in terms of this thing.
He's talking here about the Burisma deal and about the money flowing in from the Ukraine.
And Joe Biden goes on to say that he did his job impeccably.
He says, I carried out U.S. policy, not one single solitary thing out of line.
He's talking about the firing of the prosecutor named Shokin.
He implies the allies were for it.
The U.S. government was for it.
I just did my job. This was not about the money, but then here on the other side is Hunter Biden admitting that he received, that year, $500,000 in compensation from Burisma.
So, you have a prosecutor getting fired.
Burisma is talking about bribing the Bidens and paying them money to get this problem off their backs, and the problem goes off their backs.
So, in that sense, the circle is complete.
And even the Washington Post gave Joe Biden's claim that they didn't make money for Pinocchio, saying that Hunter Biden himself has directly rebutted what Joe Biden has said about the Biden family's involvement.
Now, as we pour through the Hunter Biden disclosures, we see that he gets money not just from Ukraine, we've known about that, but he gets money from Kazakhstan and he gets money from China.
So the Biden family is being paid by China and it's safe to say is being paid by the Chinese Communist Party.
Millions in 2017-2018 alone.
So what are these millions that we're talking about?
Well, it turns out that in 2017 and 2018, Hunter Biden got approximately $4.9 million from confirmed foreign sources.
A good deal of this is from the company I talked about in the last episode.
It's called CEFC China Energy Company.
It's headed by this guy named Yi Jeming.
This, by the way, is a guy who is part of the apparatus of the Chinese government.
He's evidently part of a group that is an arm of the Political Department of the People's Liberation Army, the so-called PLA. There's also $664,000 payment to the Bidens from a Chinese infrastructure company.
This is a spin-off of the energy company that I've been talking about, CEFC. So it's CEFC Infrastructure, which is a part of CEFC China Energy Development.
The money, by the way, not paid straight to the Bidens.
It goes through a sort of shell company, which is called Hudson West III. And so the money is being hidden as you can see it moving.
It's hidden so that it goes through the shell company and then it's paid out to the Bidens.
In addition, in 2018, Hunter Biden gets a $1 million payment to legally represent this guy, Patrick Ho, who was charged with violating the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act.
By the way, this guy was trying to evidently bribe African officials in Chad and Uganda on behalf of China.
And then as I mentioned, 2017, Hunter Biden gets $500,000 in compensation from Burisma.
So payment upon payment upon payment from China, from Kazakhstan, from Ukraine.
We also know from other countries, this in fact is how the Bidens accumulated this kind of pile of cash.
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Debina here for our Friday Roundup and not surprisingly we spent a good deal of the week thinking about these multiple indictments and charges against Trump.
so many indictments with one probably still right around the corner, the Georgia indictment for supposedly a kind of criminal scheme under RICO, the RICO statutes to manipulate the election result in Georgia and that on top of Alvin Bragg in New York on top of the two separate indictments with possibly even more charges to come on those indictments. You can add indictment
counts later and so Trump for example is not charged with sedition or insurrection but he could be that could be added that could be added later so we were talking about like where is this going?
You have a guy who's gearing up, I mean, not gearing up, in full gear to run for president next year.
The left really is sort of planning to put him out of commission and put him in jail so he can't run.
And so we were trying to think about, I mean, first of all, I can only imagine for Trump the You know, you've got this, we know from a single legal case, the kind of, the way it discombobulates you financially, the expenditure of time, the meetings with lawyers, and this and that.
Imagine multiple cases upon cases, the cost, the time.
How do you run for president?
Yeah, well, that's exactly what they want to do.
Whether the charges really stick or not, they want to get him out of the way.
They really do. They don't want to see him run again.
I mean, look, this is a man that they tried to take down in 2016.
Is it any surprise that even during his presidency, from 2016 to 2020, they were trying to take him down multiple times, impeachments, Multiple times.
Is it any surprise that they're going this far now?
Is it? I mean, I'm not surprised.
In fact, I told you that they would.
I find it interesting that there's been a customary way of doing business in America.
And look, I would argue that the left used that customary way with Nixon.
They had the Washington Post doing these exposés.
They tried to turn public opinion against Nixon, and largely did.
They knew that the Republicans are the party of, like, accommodation, and so they were able to siphon off a lot of Republicans who were like, you know, we think that it's time for Nixon to step down.
Even though Nixon didn't do the burglary.
But the point is, Nixon did do a few things that were involved in a sort of...
Nixon realized this was politically embarrassing.
And so he was involved to a degree in covering it up.
Today, we look back and go, big deal.
But my point is, the Democrats realized that criminalizing this, putting Nixon in jail, that's going too far.
That would never fly. And so they didn't go there.
Their idea was to get him to resign, to get him out of there, to sort of discredit his historical legacy.
And, you know, Democrats are much bolder now.
We are not so much.
Maybe a little bit. Maybe a little bit.
But they're counting on that cowardice and that, you know, acquiescence of like, oh yeah, we're just going to acquiesce and just We're going to be nice.
We're not going to do the same tactics that you're doing because that's not who we are.
In some ways, I think Nixon sowed the seeds of his own defeat because when he ran against Kennedy in 1960, it was a very close race, and it looks like voter fraud may have put Kennedy on top.
And Nixon was told, why don't you challenge?
Challenge the election. And Nixon was like, I'm not going to do it for the good of the country.
They're a very Republican thing to say.
Very Republican. And I think the Democrats knew that's Nixon.
Now, Trump is not Nixon.
Trump is not going down easy.
In fact, if Trump had worked out as sort of, listen, I'll agree not to run and so on, don't go after me, the Democrats would have jumped on that deal.
But Trump won't take that deal.
And neither will we. And I think they didn't count on either one.
They didn't count on the majority of Republicans going not so fast.
And they didn't count on a candidate going not so fast.
In other words, and I think this is very encouraging, a wall of Republican support has built around Trump.
And not only Republican support, even independents.
Even a lot of you would think the Democrats would peel off, for example, black guys who came over on the Trump train.
They were like, Trump is doing this.
We like the way Trump talks.
That they would back off from Trump and go, oh no.
There are Latinos in the Rio Grande Valley that did all these Trump rallies, Trump train rallies, you know.
Are you seeing any sign of these guys?
I am not. In fact, I'm seeing it a little bit more emboldened now, really, than before.
But I do think that, you know, as we talked about last week, they may be stirring up something in us that they didn't know was in us to stir up, right?
And so, I don't know, it may backfire on them.
It may backfire on them, but I think their temporary tactic, your analysis is correct, that whether or not they win in the end.
It could be that in the end, the Supreme Court steps in and says, all of this is nonsense, we're throwing it out.
But guess what? Just like with the Russia collusion, they will have tied Trump's hands up for a long time.
He has to deal with it, and so it's at the local level, and then you've got a district judge, and then you've got...
Then you've got the jury.
Then you have to appeal. So by the time it gets to the Supreme Court, think of all the effort and resources you've expended.
Stuff that you could have been using for your campaign.
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Feel the difference. Debbie and I talk occasionally about the culture of Washington, D.C. and why it is the type of place that it is.
Now, in my case, I have good knowledge of Washington, D.C., but it's not recent because I lived in Washington, D.C. from What, 1985 to 1999?
That's after I left the American Enterprise Institute.
Debbie's never lived in Washington, D.C., but Debbie, on the other hand, knows a bunch of congressmen.
And so we talk about the way in which they organize their lives.
And it's really pretty interesting because talk about the comment you were making about The fact that if you want to have any kind of independence as a congressman, you have to be rich.
Right. Because, first of all, you have to live in two places.
So let's say you're a congressman in Tyler, Texas.
And in fact, we know the congressman from Tyler, Texas, Louie Gohmert, pretty well.
Former. Former congressman.
Or our friend Troy Nails from Fort Bend County.
So, you know, Troy Nails was a constable.
He was a sheriff. Right.
And his wife runs a school.
So in a sense, they've got a middle-class life.
Community-driven. Community-driven.
Now you're elected to Congress.
But that means that you don't just have to pay your mortgage and pay for your family expenses.
You now have to travel to Washington, D.C. and you have to pay to stay there.
And the government doesn't put you up.
The government doesn't have housing for these congressmen.
So what happens is that, well, some of them, and in fact, Troy was telling us this, some of them are poor enough that they sleep in the office.
Or they find some ramshackle quarters, they get a room in somebody else's house, and they rent it out.
And so they have to make do.
Obviously the congressmen and senators who have more money are able to have a second place and essentially it becomes like a second home and you can operate pretty lavishly.
But the point of what we're getting at here is this is where the culture of money comes into play.
Because there's no shortage of money in Washington D.C. It's really our money, your money and my money, but it's funneled through all kinds of agencies and non-profits And lobbyists.
And this is one reason it's so, well, in a way, easy for lobbyists to buy off a congressman.
Remember one of those Project Veritas videos?
The guy was saying on the video, you can buy a senator for $10,000.
Now, I think that was maybe too low a price, but the very fact that you choose that number...
Yeah. Well, you know, when I was in college, I actually toyed with the idea of going to Washington.
As you know, I wanted to work for the State Department, but then I was like, you know, maybe I could just be a lobbyist because I was reading up on becoming a lobbyist and going through all the things that you can do to influence people.
A congressional representative, either Congress or Senate, because you really hold the key to what they vote on, what they don't vote on.
And then I started looking at it a little more closely and I was like, you know, these people actually don't work for me or for you or for my buddy over here.
They work for special interest groups.
And that's when my whole notion of the country and the founding fathers and all of that just kind of, I was like, is this really what they built America to be like?
To not represent the very people that vote for you, but rather the special interest groups?
I think I think I think I think You know, $300,000 into your pack for your re-election if you vote my way on this issue.
And so, what the congressman is faced with is, I'm going to be running for re-election.
Should I go serve the interests of all these people who have given me nothing?
Or have given me small, paltry amounts of money?
Or... By doing this single act, and think about it, for most congressmen, their job is to vote.
They don't actually do anything.
They don't run businesses. Their job is to show up and vote.
And a vote costs them nothing.
They just show up and they go, yeah, nah.
But the vote is worth money.
I'm not implying the direct corruption that money is going into their family fund, but I am implying, not implying, I'm stating that lobbyists are able to buy favor by putting money into their, what is it, their war chest, as they call it, their coffers. Yeah.
Well, and the other thing that really also was very disillusioned was the fact that a congressman, like, let's take Troy, for example.
He was an amazing constable, an amazing sheriff.
He had direct influence on the community that I lived in.
Crime was low.
And you can argue about other factors, but the truth of the matter is that he actually had direct, direct, I guess...
Well, he had executive control.
Exactly. Direct executive control over the things that matter to me in my community.
Whereas a congressman doesn't really do that for me, right?
A congressman can intervene in getting someone's social security check processed and so on.
But your point is the kind of administrative authority that you have.
In some ways, you're more influential on your constituency as a constable or as a sheriff.
Yeah. Than you are as a congressman.
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And you think, why is the Atlantic devoting so many acres of space to this one person that, frankly, no one's ever heard of?
And they're making it sound like she is a representative of a movement that they want to attack.
So this is the kind of strategy that's used by the left.
They want to attack the conservatives.
But they don't have anything on Ralph Reed, who's head of the Faith and Freedom, or James Dobson, or the legacy of Chuck Colson.
So they're like, we can't go over to those guys because those guys actually are very careful about their...
What about if we find somebody and portray them as a kook?
And then we say, this person represents this huge movement that is now part of the Trump phenomenon.
Everyone goes, really? I didn't know much about it.
Tell me more. And so that's the nature of this article.
It's fascinating in itself, but it's fascinating also as a sort of Very cunning hit job that is portraying her as the face of the Christian right.
Now, this is a woman who is part of a group called New Apostolic Reformation.
And there you go. Have you ever heard of this group?
I've never heard of it, but I have heard of people calling themselves apostles.
And so she claims, the writer, claims that this group, the New Apostolic Reformation, gives people the notion that they are apostles of God and that they should be addressed as such, right?
Well... As I read the article, I found myself, you know, these days I read articles almost as if I'm decoding them.
And what she does is she takes Christian vocabulary.
So, for example, one common phrase you hear among Christians is the idea of spiritual warfare.
Right. Or take the idea of a demonic stronghold.
This is a kind of Christian vocabulary.
Oh, you know, Hollywood these days is a demonic stronghold.
Now, that may seem like an odd phrase to somebody who is not familiar with Christian vocabulary.
If you've been to youth conferences and listened to youth pastors and pastors preach and so on, these phrases occur in sermons.
So there's nothing by themselves scary about it.
When you use a phrase like spiritual warfare, you know, you're not talking about the Crusades.
You're not talking about AR-15s.
What are you talking about? The fact that, look, we have a political clash in this country, but underneath it is a moral clash.
Who can doubt that? And underneath that is a spiritual clash.
So there is a sort of battle between good and evil at the heart of our politics.
Again, I believe that.
You believe that. Now, so even if we don't use this exact same...
So what I'm getting at is I think...
By using this vocabulary, and you could find the same vocabulary on the left, by the way, but we just don't do this kind of journalistic hit piece where we go, now let's meet this trans guy, and let's look at his life and see all the weird things that he believes and all the weird stuff that he's into.
Right, and then paint all of the left as that, right?
That's right. So, but the interesting thing as I was reading this is I had an eerily familiar feeling of what they did to the David Koresh movement, remember?
And in fact, she even brought up the fact that these people, this woman and her husband, had guns, right?
So she brought that into the article.
So what you're saying is that this kind of literature, which poses as neutral, is a literature that, in a sense, foments hate against these people, portrays And then,
well, the Waco connection you're talking about is once you've successfully demonized somebody, this guy's a cult member, then you can justify bashing in his door, setting his property on fire, shooting his wife and his kids, because after all, it's a cult member.
Who knows what kind of crazy stuff this guy was into.
So that is clearly what she's trying to do.
She's basically painting this woman as a cult.
As a kook, as a crazy woman.
And in fact, you know, like you say, when they talk about the opening of the portals and all of those things, you know, as a Christian, you do know that there's good and evil.
Of course. And you do know that there is a portal to evil that you shouldn't open, right?
But let's read a sentence which kind of captures the tone.
The kingdom, this is the kingdom that this woman, Tammy, supposedly is after.
The kingdom would be a social pyramid.
Right. At the top of which was a government of godly leaders dispensing biblical laws, and at the bottom which was a full manifestation of heaven on earth, a glorious world with no poverty, no racism, no crime, no abortion, no homosexuality, two genders, one kind of marriage, and one God, theirs.
Now, first of all, in a benign sense, the idea that you want godly leaders, you want a godly society, I doubt very much that these Christians, whoever they are, I know nothing about them, claim that we're going to eradicate racism, we're going to eradicate poverty.
Nobody thinks that we are going to actually have heaven here on earth.
But by creating this exaggerated picture, You give the idea, oh wow, this woman is obviously living in la-la land.
And so this article is illuminating as a journalistic hit piece that pretends to be sympathetic to its subject when it's really mocking them, making fun of them, and trying to invite public derision toward them.
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The FBI just raided the home of a guy in Provo, Utah and killed him.
The man is 75 years old.
His name is Craig Robertson.
And the raid was justified by the idea that this guy was making online threats against Joe Biden, Merrick Garland, apparently several other officials, apparently Gavin Newsom and others, and threatening that he would get rid of them, shoot them.
The threats themselves are really over the top. I'm just going to read a couple because we want to get to the facts of what's happening here. I hear Biden is coming to Utah, digging out my old guild suit and cleaning the dust off the M24 sniper rifle.
Welcome, buffoon in chief.
So you've got a guy here who's a little unhinged.
A little cuckoo. Yeah. And there's a couple of other examples.
Alvin Bragg, he goes, heading to New York to fulfill my dream of eradicating, misspelled, another of George Soros' two-bit political hatches.
I think he means hatchet DAs.
And then he goes, I'll be waiting in the courthouse parking garage with my suppressed Smith& Wesson M&P 9mm to smoke a radical fool prosecutor that should never have been elected.
And there's more like this.
So obviously this guy is like out of control and he is making threats.
Yeah. Now, this being said, he's in Utah.
He's an old guy.
It turns out he walks with a cane.
And it turns out, what did he do to act on these threats?
Is this guy violent in any way?
There's no indication that he was.
So, the FBI decides to go and pay him a visit.
And they are executing a search warrant.
And you make the point, and I agree, that they pretended to be going to arrest him but they really wanted to kill him.
Absolutely, 100%. They wanted to kill him.
Now, say why you think that.
Because the FBI has a sort of a cover story.
Here's that cover story. They're like, hey listen, we were just trying to execute a search warrant.
We wanted to arrest him.
We just wanted to hold him accountable and neutralize a potential threat.
This was a man in his house.
He was armed. He had a weapon.
And so, gee, we had to kill him.
But here's my point.
They knew he had weapons.
They knew he was unhinged.
So they knew that going to his house at 6 in the morning was going to cause a little bit of chaos.
And they better be prepared for what this unhinged man is going to do or willing to do.
So they knew that there was a potential threat to them.
And so of course, they knew that to stop that, they could actually use lethal force.
But they could have, and I told you this earlier, they could, because you know that the FBI surveils people.
They do, they have you under surveillance if you are potentially a threat, right, in their eyes.
They could have followed him to, say, the grocery store.
And they could have arrested him as he's about to go in his car when he's not aware that they're surveillancing him.
And then grab him and put the handcuffs behind him.
Go, you're under arrest for making threats, blah, blah, blah.
That would have been a way to do that, to control the situation in a non-violent way.
Because, again, going to his house...
I mean, the simple truth is that when you show up at someone's house, wasn't it 6 in the morning?
Early in the morning, the guy getting out of bed...
Probably officer. Federal officers heavily armed at his property.
What is his natural instinct going to be at that point?
This kind of a guy.
But to think, oh my gosh, I mean, there's probably an element of paranoia there already.
Right, exactly. But your point is that there were other less lethal and responsible ways.
See, this is a point that the left makes all the time.
When they were making the point about, did you have to kill the guy?
Remember Joe Biden? You could have shot him in the leg.
In other words, you should use the least possible force to achieve the objective of apprehending, in this case, the suspect.
So, we're not justifying this guy's threats.
But wait a minute. How many threats were made against Trump when he was president from the left?
What about Kathy Griffin holding up, really, the severed head of Trump, dripping blood?
Isn't that a threat equivalent to anything that this guy said?
Oh, for sure. Many other people made similar threats.
Did the FBI go to Kathy Griffin's house in the morning, fully armed, ready to kill her, if she showed any signs of resistance?
Of course not. But I think this is all just a way of the FBI and the DOJ and all of those people Left-wing, now left-wing institutions to say, hey, if you are a conservative, if you do not like the sitting president, if you don't like the attorney general, we're going to watch you and we're going to make sure that we stop you from doing anything potentially.
It is.
Because he even says at one point, Hey Merrick Garland, you demented weasel, send your FBI SWAT team to my house.
You won't because I fight back.
So this is a guy who's provoking them.
He's provoking them, but he also thinks they're not going to do it.
So what you're saying is he provokes them, but he doesn't realize he's playing into their hands.
Exactly. Beijing embraces classical fascism.
That's the title of an essay by the scholar at the American Enterprise Institute, actually a friend of mine.
His name is Michael Ledeen.
And while a lot of people throw the term fascism We're good to go.
And he says that when we try to understand China, we today run into a kind of roadblock because we think of China as a communist society.
And yet China doesn't show certain features of communism.
It has a market system.
It has a private sector, a private sector that collaborates with the government but hasn't been taken over by the government in the way that the private sector was kind of gobbled up under the Bolshevik regime in the Soviet Union.
And Ledeen goes on to say that a better way to understand China is not as a communist society, but a fascist society.
And I think Ledeen knows as well as I do, and I've emphasized this in my own work, that fascism and communism are two different versions of socialism.
They're both inside of the socialist camp, just like the Shia and the Sunni are both inside the Islamic camp.
They're two different faces or different versions of Islam.
And the defining feature of fascism is a collaboration between the government and the private sector.
And this really is what China has transformed itself into, argues Mike Ledeen.
So China started out as a communist society.
And it was a communist society under Mao Zedong.
And Mao had his Cultural Revolution and the Great Leap Forward and really hundreds of thousands, if not millions, well really millions of people were relocated, displaced, tortured, killed.
So communism was as big a failure in China as communism was in the Soviet Union.
In fact, in some ways even worse because the disaster occurred over a shorter period of time.
But when the Soviet Union imploded, it became something else.
It became a kind of, you could almost call it a gangster or capitalist system with guys like, thugs like Putin in charge.
So many of them, by the way, themselves, former ex-KGB agents or ex-Soviet officials.
But, says Ledeen, that's not what happened in China.
China sort of went fascist under Deng, who was the guy who came in, I think, in the late 1970s through the 1980s.
And the effect of Deng or Deng was to modify the old communist system Create a Chinese private sector, but now have a private sector that was under the sway of the government, and that's basically fascism.
Ledeen says that fascism really until now has never been tried.
This is kind of a very provocative idea, but Ledeen's point is you had fascism in Italy.
It started with Mussolini coming to power in 1922 and then of course Hitler coming to power in 1933.
But really what happened is in a few years that fascism was embroiled in a world war that smashed it.
So fascism never really had its run.
Think of it. Communism had its run in the Soviet Union, 70 years.
Countries have, by and large, had a chance to try out political systems, but the fascist system was, probably the word aborted is not right, but it was shut down in its infancy.
But, says Ledeen, in China, they now have what you could call mature fascism, which is to say, fascism that has had time to develop.
If fascism was sort of introduced by Deng in 1978 or the early 80s, we are now 30 years away from that.
And the Chinese don't have to be revolutionary fanatics like Mussolini, let's march, or Hitler, let's go invade Poland, let's invade Russia, let's send bombers over to England, and so on.
The Chinese in a way are more relaxed about it, and by that I mean more patient.
They're building, if you will, a fascism that from their point of view that works.
Now, none of this is to deny, Ladeen wouldn't deny for a moment, that China has all this centralized control, that this is a repressive system.
Ladeen is quick to admit that Western expectations that somehow the Chinese would modify, they would become more liberal, they would become more democratic.
I think really no one believes that anymore.
In fact, the evidence of Chinese behavior over the past several decades has shown that they are not becoming more like us.
In fact, arguably, this is a topic for another day, we are becoming more like them.
So, says Ledeen, in trying to understand China, we need to put aside the conventional framework.
They're a communist society.
We're a free society.
Well, we're not so free anymore.
And they're not really a communist society, but in Ledeen's description, a mature fascist society, in the classic meaning of the term.
The classic meaning of the term fascism is not about concentration camps.
It's about creating, if you will, a collectivist society with a state at the head of it.
But the private sector and private individuals doing the bidding of the state.
And isn't that, in fact, what we have in China?
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