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WITCH-HUNT ROUND 2 Dinesh D’Souza Podcast Ep596
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That's friendofdinesh.com. Coming up, I'll show you why the second likely indictment of Trump is another preposterous witch hunt. I'll review the entry of Mike Pence and Chris Christie into the Republican presidential race. I also want to ask whether Muslims may be finding their way into Coming up, I'll show you why the second likely indictment of Trump is another preposterous witch hunt.
I'll review the entry of Mike Pence and Chris Christie into the Republican presidential race.
I'll also want to ask whether Muslims may be finding their way into the GOP over cultural issues.
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There are a number of news reports that Trump is very soon going to be facing a second indictment.
Now, the first indictment, as we know, is the Alvin Bragg case in New York.
This, it seems, will be the second indictment over the classified information related to the Mar-a-Lago raid and its aftermath.
And there is potentially coming a third indictment later this summer in Georgia for supposed interference in the Georgia election count.
Let me focus now on this second indictment.
Now, the indictment is a likely but perhaps not a sure thing.
I say this because Trump himself tweeted out, well, truthed out, no one has told me I'm being indicted and I shouldn't be because I've done nothing wrong.
He then goes on to say, I've assumed for years I'm the target of a weaponized DOJ and FBI. He talks about the Russia hoax, the impeachments one and two, and, quote, various other scams and witch hunts.
And then Trump goes on to say, and this I think gets to the heart of the matter, a travesty of justice and election interference at a level never seen before.
So this is really what this is all about.
It is blocking Trump from...
From a second shot at the presidency.
And you can see in the way that you have, well, let's call it foraging indictments.
Well, let's try to get him on this, and if we can get him on this, let's get him on that.
Given the fact that no president has previously been indicted before, this is uncharted territory.
Trump is not only the former president but the leading candidate to be the Republican nominee for president.
And here is the rival party operating through its FBI, through its DOJ to indict him.
And to indict him for what?
Possession of classified documents?
Well, Biden's in possession of classified documents.
Biden has not only had these documents, but some of them go way back to his days in the Senate.
These are documents evidently stored around his car and in his garage.
So, if you're talking about the sloppy handling of classified documents, it would appear that there's a stronger case against Biden than there is against Trump.
There's also some evidence that Biden, at least through his family members, might have been trafficking in information contained in those documents, and that's something that's not even alleged against Trump.
So how do you find a way to go after Trump without going after Biden?
Here's where the left's kind of legal ingenuity comes in.
And evidently, the way that they want to go about this now is to claim that Trump, but seemingly not Biden, had information that wasn't just classified, but specifically applies to national defense.
So the idea here would be that Trump is endangering our national security.
And apparently, Trump's lawyers have been notified that he could be indicted for a violation of 18 U.S. Code, Chapter 37, Section 793.
This outlaws, quote, the gathering, transmitting, or losing of national defense information.
Now, as often happens when they do this kind of thing, they throw other charges on top of it.
Supposedly, they're considering false statements, obstruction of justice.
Now, all of this, I think, is bogus.
It's bogus on many different levels.
First of all, it should be really clear that Presidential Records Act One, allows presidents to take their presidential records.
They're allowed to do it. Number two, presidents are allowed to declassify information.
And it has now come to light that Trump signed a letter declassifying all the documents that deal with Crossfire Hurricane.
In other words, that deal with the effort to spy on the Trump campaign, if not on Trump himself.
Let's remember that when presidents take their own documents, it's not the same thing as you and I taking documents.
Why? Because Congress appropriates funds that secure the office of the former president.
There's secret service protection.
There are staff that have to have clearances in the same manner as you would if you worked in the White House.
So they're all measures of protection in place to make sure that these documents would be secure.
And on top of that, you have the simple fact that these documents were in a locked storage.
And when the FBI requested an additional lock, the Trump people complied with that.
The It's also noteworthy that the Presidential Records Act which is the act that Trump is supposedly violating here doesn't have any criminal component.
It looks like the Biden people may try to pull in the Espionage Act But the Espionage Act is a whole different matter.
I mean, what? Is Trump some kind of a foreign spy?
They, of course, implied he was a Russian asset, but that's been totally discredited.
And so, look, we don't know what's going to be in this indictment.
We have to wait and see.
But just based upon what we do know and based upon what's out there, it seems like this is nothing more than witch hunt number two coming on the heels of witch hunt number one and perhaps to be followed by witch hunt number three.
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Mike Pence is now officially in the presidential race.
He has made a campaign ad that I watched this morning.
And Debbie and I were talking about this over breakfast and we were just trying to make sense of the Mike Pence phenomenon.
Now, Making sense of the Mike Pence phenomenon involves more than Mike Pence because it involves other people like Mike Pence who are also running, but running kind of to what end?
And with what sort of a vision and what sort of a platform?
I'm thinking here of Nikki Haley.
I'm thinking here of who else?
Asa Hutchinson. I guess Chris Christie is now in the race as well.
And all of these people seem to be kind of looking at the country and seeing it in a completely different way than certainly Debbie and I do and I think most likely you do also.
Now, Mike Pence in his ad talks about the fact that he wasn't willing to overturn the election.
He didn't think he had the power to do that.
But wait a minute. Nobody asked him to do that.
No one said to Mike Pence, you overturned the election.
The idea was simply to send the electoral process back to the states who have ultimate constitutional jurisdiction over that process and ask them to take another look.
So this was not an attempt to change the outcome of an election.
It was rather an attempt to arrive at a correct outcome in the first place.
And so, look, I mean, when you start misrepresenting what you're even asked to do, you're not off to a very good start.
Mike Pence does a lot about talking about his own kind of rectitude and his own integrity.
I call these guys, I think Debbie actually used the phrase first, these are the people who are like, you know, we're better than that.
And by that, they mean we're better than the Democrats.
The Democrats can do all kinds of gangsterism, but we're not gonna do the same.
Well, the question then arises, if you're not gonna do the same, how do you plan to defeat them?
By standing on principle?
By looking tough?
By appealing to your own incorruptibility?
What is your actual strategy?
I mean, let's look at the analogy of the Democrats in the 1850s.
They were becoming increasingly gangsterized.
They were threatening to break up the country and launch a major war.
And Abraham Lincoln realized, listen, the tactics of the 1840s and early 50s are not going to work in the late 1850s and the early 1860s.
Why? Because the storm clouds of war are on the horizon.
So in a combat mode, we need a Republican Party that's appropriate to the occasion.
Well, we're not in a civil war like that, but we are in a cold civil war.
And Mike Pence doesn't seem to know that.
Now, look at all this evidence that's coming out now about the level of Biden corruption, $5 million bribes, collecting money under the table from Ukraine, from China, distributing it in a suitcase to members of the Biden family.
This is mafia-style behavior.
Well, what makes you think that the same mafioso that are doing this kind of corrupt shenanigans would somehow be above rigging an election or bending the rules or figuring out ways to cheat any which way they can to get them across the finish line?
Anyone who thinks that they wouldn't do that has no idea what they're up against.
We're not up against the bumbling incompetence of Jimmy Carter.
We're up against something far more malevolent.
And by the way, Jimmy Carter wasn't an angel either.
He had his own malevolent side, but perhaps not as bad as Obama and not as bad as Biden.
So this is the problem.
We have Republicans today.
And the problem is it's not just Mike Pence.
It was just Mike Pence.
I would just put it down to cluelessness.
A certain...
Being frozen in a time warp, living still in the Reagan era and thinking that those same slogans, I mean, there's a...
When you listen to Pence and you listen even to Nikki Haley, they do sound out of the 1980s.
I mean, it's... It seems to be out of place, if you will, in today's situation.
They don't talk about even the issues that matter today.
Even when they're dealing with Ukraine, they act as if the Soviet Union is still in place.
And so the same antagonism that all of us showed toward the Soviet Union in the 1980s is somehow now transplanted onto Putin today, even though we're talking about a completely different regime and a completely different system and completely different facts on the ground.
Ukraine is very distant from America.
The Soviet Union was threatening to come through the Fulda Gap into West Germany.
So in other words, the United States was fighting for Europe's survival and its own.
That is not the case manifestly now in Ukraine.
So it would be nice to have a Mike Pence who stepped forward and said, hey, listen, this is why we should still back Ukraine.
This is why the situation is not much different from how it was in the 1980s.
So an intellectual case for why people like me are wrong and why people like him are right would be good to hear.
But so far, and I don't think it's coming, he hasn't made that case.
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I don't know if you saw, but there was a big demonstration in Montgomery County, Maryland, by a large group of Muslims, Muslim families showing up en masse.
To protest against LGBTQ propaganda, trans propaganda, all this stuff being pushed in the public schools.
And now, with the Muslims showing up, there were counter demonstrators against the Muslims.
And so the Muslims were shouting, protect our children, religious freedom now.
And on the other side, the counter-protesters were shouting secular schools and evidently acting as if the Muslims were the real threat here to public education.
Now, this is a very interesting fight, and if we roll the clock back 20 years to the aftermath of 9-11, most of us might have almost instinctively or reflexively taken the secular side.
Because that was a time, again, after 9-11, I heard a lot of people say things like, well, you know, the Taliban throws gays off of buildings, they outlaw homosexuality in the Muslim world, and so we, the West, are the defender of liberal values, and these liberal values, of course, include the right to have your own, to live your own way of life.
But now I think the situation is somewhat different because it is the trans people, the LGBTQ radicals who are pushing an activist agenda through the schools.
What are the Muslims doing?
Well, the Muslims are taking the exact same position as Christian families, which is leave us alone, butt out.
And I don't mean a pun there, but just stay out of our business.
Let us learn. Let us go to schools to learn stuff.
And let us practice our own faith and let us exercise our own rights of conscience.
So I gotta say that in this fight, I am 100% on the Muslim side and not on the side of the LGBTQ radicals.
Now... The Democrats are taken by surprise by this, and the left a little bit thrown off.
Kristen Mink is a member of the Montgomery County Council, and she comes out and she basically calls the Muslims white supremacists.
What? So suddenly, the desire to protect your families, to defend your faith, defend your values, is now equated preposterously with white supremacy.
First of all, these Muslim families, you can just look at them as they're out there.
They're not white. They're brown, like me.
And number two, this has nothing to do with race.
This is an argument that's rooted in values.
Yes, it is rooted in religion, but that's just the point.
The Muslims are appealing to This Kristen Mink character continues.
She goes on to say, She continued, there's no way to do that without sending a clear message to the LGBTQIA plus community that you are seen as different and other people don't need to learn about your distance or have you included in the curriculum.
So basically, this Democrat is doubling down and, excuse me, And she's taking the view that we are going to push the LGBTQ agenda and we are going to push the trans agenda.
And hey, this is just part of inclusion.
If you don't like it, if it offends your values, well, too bad for you.
Now, there is a Muslim woman in the area, and she's been very active in the school board fights in Virginia and in the D.C. area.
Her name is Asra Nomani.
And she posted the following on Twitter.
She goes, But I do believe, and they believe, in the integral right of parents to parent.
And she said, sure enough, the hard left came after the one interest that has no mama bear or papa bear is going to surrender our kids.
So what she's saying is that, look, this is something in which the Muslims are not going to back down.
And Even though there are some non-practicing Muslims, I don't know if the term secular Muslim is quite the right term, but nevertheless the Muslims agree on this and we, the conservatives, agree with them.
And all of this raises the interesting It's a question of whether in this new environment we can find allies in the Muslim community and bring some Muslims over into the GOP. Why?
Because on the most important issue, which is protecting the innocence of your children, the left has declared war on them and is out to ruin them, destroy them morally.
And so if their parents won't protect them, who will?
I think that this is something that Republicans are typically pretty clueless about all this.
They tend to say, oh no, we don't really want anything to do with the Muslims.
We don't really understand them.
They read the Quran.
And we've got to here make an important distinction, I think, between theology on the one side and common social morality, civic morality.
And also political alliances.
We make political alliances all the time.
Political alliances with libertarians.
Political alliances on just particular issues.
There are pro-life feminists.
There are left-wingers who are pro-life.
There's a group called, I think, the Secular Pro-Life Alliance.
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Chris Licht is out at CNN and...
It may seem at the beginning that this is very bad news.
Why? And after the Trump town hall,
which generated a massive internal revolt at CNN, evidently, I mean, think about this, the view at CNN appears to be that giving the presumptive Republican nominee airtime on CNN is a journalistic outrage.
Wow. This just shows that CNN is really not a real news network.
It's a propaganda network.
It's there to do propaganda for the Democratic Party.
The only Republicans allowed on CNN are anti-Trump.
And they're there to be anti-Trump.
They're not there to argue other Republican positions.
They're there to bash Trump.
That's why CNN has them on.
So just imagine a network on the other side that just did the exact opposite.
Now, Fox is not that network, by the way, because Democrats appear on Fox.
Fox is not closed to Democratic voices.
Now, there may be Democrats who don't want to go on Fox.
That's a whole different matter.
Now, what's up with Chris Licht?
Well, the thing with Chris Licht is that he made some changes at CNN. He pushed out some of the absolutely obvious, lousy people at CNN, like Brian Stelter.
I mean, just complete duds.
And that was an obvious improvement.
But Chris Licht didn't go the whole hog.
And by that, I mean, if you want to fix CNN, if you want a network that is not...
Well, middle of the road is not the right word, because it's not that CNN has to be middle of the road.
The idea was for CNN to reflect a diversity of viewpoints, which is not the same as middle of the road.
It means having... Points and speakers from across the spectrum engage with each other.
This is what the old CNN was about.
It was not middle of the road, per se.
It would have a guy on the left, a guy on the right, and they would be sort of doing rhetorical combat, one with the other.
So this is really what Chris Licht needed to go for.
And he didn't even have to reinvent the wheel.
CNN already had the wheel.
He just had to go back to the old model.
But he didn't really do that.
And so what happened is that the...
That the ratings of CNN, which are already bad, continued to slide.
Now, this could be because there were left-wing activists who watched CNN who were like, well, I just want pure propaganda.
And this Chris Lick guy is talking about moving the network to the middle, so I'm not going to watch anymore.
I'm going over to MSNBC where I can get my propaganda like pure.
So this could have been part of the problem.
And so there are all these news articles coming out now basically saying things like, you know, under Chris Licht, CNN was in free fall.
And here's an article, for example, in Forbes, CNN's rating collapse, primetime down in key demo.
And but...
They're acting as though Chris Licht is responsible for CNN's free fall in ratings.
But of course, the free fall in ratings long preceded Chris Licht.
In fact, you can go back to articles from the last several years all showing, and of course, this stuff is all compiled.
This data is compared on a regular basis, certainly weekly, a monthly basis.
So you can see that CNN has been doing terribly for a long time.
And I agree that Licht's job was to come in, stop the bleeding, try to reverse it, try to show an upward trend in CNN's ratings.
To that degree, you can say that Chris Licht failed.
But the point I'm trying to make is that he failed not because he was moving CNN to the center, but because he didn't go the whole hog and do that.
He fiddled.
He just tinkered.
And as a result, he probably angered some people on the left without picking up a corresponding number of people from the middle or from the center right.
So this really was Chris Licht's failure.
Now... Does this mean that David Zaslav and Discovery and the big bosses who oversee CNN have decided, well, you know what?
Let's just stay with the Wolf Blitzer, Jake Tapper, Fareed Zakaria CNN model.
I don't think so. There's a fellow named John Nicosia who's been reporting on CNN. He seems to have really good inside sources at CNN. In fact, this is the guy who tweeted out some time ago, So he knew that this was coming.
And now he says this, He says from a source at Discovery, quote, the exit doors are still open at CNN. In fact, he goes on to say, quote, that the people who orchestrated the campaign against Licht are next.
Look for the media team to be called and other Zucker loyalists to be shown the door.
So in other words, the point being that just because they got rid of Chris Licht doesn't mean that CNN is now once again ratcheting far left.
What it actually means is that they've decided that Licht couldn't fix the problem, but the problem remains the other people at CNN. The problem remains that you've got propagandists masquerading as journalists, and so maybe somebody else will be brought in who will clean up the place, fumigate the place, sweep out all the debris, throw all the bad guys out on the pavement, and try to bring in some people at CNN that can legitimately wear the badge of journalist.
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Feel the difference. The Southern Poverty Law Center, which started out as an organization to fight for civil rights, an organization that was aimed at squarely against the Ku Klux Klan.
I met many years ago a Southern white guy named Morris Dees, Who I thought was a pretty nice guy at the time, an affable guy who was leading the Southern Poverty Law Center.
And his goal was to identify people with Klan sympathies.
The Klan, of course, had still had a presence in America stretching out into the 1960s and 70s.
So there was residual Klan sympathy.
And this is what the Southern Poverty Law Center was set up to fight.
But over time, the Southern Poverty Law Center just became a tool of the left, actually sort of largely forgot about the Ku Klux Klan, and now began to engage in the business of classifying groups as hate groups, except the groups classified as hate groups are like, what the The Heritage Foundation, the NRA, the American Enterprise Institute.
I mean, groups that have nothing to do with hate, unaffiliated with the Klan, in fact, abhor the Klan.
These are groups that are part of mainstream conservatism that are falsely smeared by the Southern Poverty Law Center as hate groups.
And the latest addition to the Southern Poverty Law Center's roster of hate groups is, guess what?
Parental rights organizations that are fighting for control over their own children.
This is unbelievable.
Southern Poverty Law Center puts out this thing called a hate map.
And on this hate map, they now list a bunch of these groups.
Well, what groups are we talking about?
230 chapters of the group called Moms for Liberty.
This is a group that's been going to school board meetings.
It's been basically saying, listen, we want in-school instruction, but we don't want all this propaganda and indoctrination being forced on our children.
Another group being classified as a hate group is a group called No Left Turn in Education.
This is a group based in Pennsylvania.
Twelve chapters of parental rights in education.
And then also a group of parents involved in education.
And then Eagle Forum, which was Phyllis Schlafly's group based in Alton, Illinois.
Now, nothing could be more outrageous than labeling parents.
Who have every legal, constitutional, and moral right to oversee the education of their own children as somehow hateful.
And you might ask, well, what is the Southern Poverty Law Center's basis for doing this?
If you read the Southern Poverty Law Center report, it's all couched in a kind of verbal gobbledygook.
It talks about these groups being, quote, inherently anti-democratic.
How are they anti-democratic?
They're actually exercising their democratic right to participate in local, civic self-government.
It also says that they reject pluralism and equity.
How do they reject pluralism?
Rejecting the trans agenda.
This is the sleight of hand that has become so familiar.
If you disagree with reparations, you're rejecting equality.
If you disagree with the trans agenda, you're rejecting equity.
So there's an easy equation between these broad slogans of inclusion and equity and then the very specific and very radical agenda that's promoted under those banners.
You might expect the Southern Poverty Law Center to discuss Drag Queen Story Hour.
No mention of it.
You might expect them to discuss the fact that a lot of these books and school libraries, and in some cases even textbooks, have quasi or semi-pornographic content.
No mention of that.
You might talk about the fact that there's propaganda in schools to encourage children to change their gender.
There's no mention of that.
So in other words, the Southern Poverty Law Center leaves out what these parents are agitated about.
It pretends like these people are somehow indistinguishable from the Ku Klux Klan.
You know, the Ku Klux Klan oppose the gay agenda, and these guys oppose the gay agenda.
So they're like the Ku Klux Klan.
This is like, Hitler liked vanilla ice cream.
Dinesh likes vanilla ice cream.
Dinesh is Hitler. This is a kind of rhetorical madness, a breakdown of common sense and logic.
But what makes the Southern Poverty Law Center so dangerous is not the organization itself, but the fact that other people pay attention to it.
So we know now from the Twitter files and other sources that government sources pay attention to Southern Poverty Law Center.
They go, well, if these guys are hate groups, maybe they should be classified as hate groups by the Justice Department or by the FBI or by other intelligence organizations.
Or maybe digital platforms should now classify them as hate groups and restrict or censor their content.
So the Southern Poverty Law Center is playing the role of an intermediary in trying to activate these other organizations which have the power of digital exclusion and in some cases have the power of the handcuffs and of arrest and get those organizations to then take action against these groups.
So it's an invidious alliance because it pretends to be the Southern Poverty Law Center goes, well, all we're doing is we're just engaged in the neutral business of evaluating organizations and labeling them.
But the labels, this is kind of like putting a label on somebody.
Hey, you wear a Star of David.
And that label is then used to, you can't enter a school and you can't have shops over here and you've got to pay a special tax.
So we see here, as we saw in other tyrannical societies, labels being used as a prerequisite to ostracism, to exclusion, and in some cases even to the infliction of physical harm.
The Southern Poverty Law Center pretends to be fighting hate, but I think it's one of America's leading hate groups.
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I want to talk about something I just found out about a few minutes ago.
Debbie was showing me an article from the Wall Street Journal.
It seems to be well sourced and well reported that China has struck a secret deal with Cuba to create a spying facility, an eavesdropping station, In Cuba.
Now, let's remember, Cuba is, what, 100, 150 miles from the U.S. coastline.
So we've got a hostile country very close to America.
And that's dangerous in and of itself.
Think back to the Cuban Missile Crisis when the Russians tried to use Cuba as a sort of launching pad or a landing station for Soviet missiles.
That led to the Cuban Missile Crisis.
Ultimately, the Russians pulled their missiles out of Cuba.
Some people don't know that the United States in turn agreed to pull missiles out of Turkey.
So there was a kind of deal made over that.
Well, now China has assumed the role of being the largest geopolitical rival to the United States.
Evidently, they want to monitor ship movements and traffic, not just physical traffic, but electronic traffic that is occurring in those waters in the southern region of the United States.
Apparently, the eavesdropping facility would have a range that would include the southern and particularly the southeastern part of the United States.
China is paying Cuba several Billion dollars for the right to do this.
And the U.S. government knows about it.
In fact, the source for the article, the Wall Street Journal admits, is U.S. intelligence officials that are quite concerned, and rightly so, about what the Chinese are doing really in our backyard.
Now, the United States has long sort of officially distanced itself from the Monroe Doctrine.
let's remember the Monroe Doctrine going back to the 19th century, the idea that, hey, we're happy to deal with other countries on an official basis, but the United States will take seriously any threats that are emerging in our own backyard. So this was the Monroe Doctrine.
It applied largely to Central and South America, but it certainly would cover Cuba. And the Chinese are clearly thumbing their noses at the Biden administration by saying, hey, what are you going to do about it? And I predict that the answer is nothing.
Now, John Kirby, the State Department spokesman, is quoted in this Wall Street Journal article, and he goes, well, we are very aware of this.
We're concerned about it.
Actually, watching this guy gives me the heebie-jeebies because he's trying to make you feel safe.
And he's got this kind of deep voice.
But the reality is he makes me feel extremely unsafe because it's very clear that you're dealing with an amateur who's representing other amateurs and is trying to assure you of a security that we don't actually have.
That's the key point.
But Kirby goes, I want people to know that we are carefully monitoring all this and that the US is going to make sure that our security is not threatened in any way.
Well, think about what does that mean?
What kind of a nonsensical statement is that?
How are you going to do that?
If they have an eavesdropping facility and they're intercepting electronic communications, listening to radio transmissions, Phone calls, monitoring U.S. movements and so on.
Obviously, that's going to make us less secure.
That's why the Chinese are doing it.
They wouldn't do it if they were getting nothing out of it.
So this kind of blithe assurance that we're on top of it.
We've got it under control.
This is about as assuring as when you're on an airplane and the plane begins to swerve and bank and jump up and down.
And all you get is the stewardess going, Nothing to worry about, guys.
Keep eating your meals.
In fact, that's not typically what stewardesses would do.
They would take note of the situation and try to explain what the captain is doing about it.
And that's not what we're not getting here.
We're not getting from the Biden administration any sense that they're going to take any kind of actions at all.
Maybe just... We're good to go.
And it is remarkable that China, which is not as strong as the United States, the United States has much stronger defense capabilities, at least as of now.
The Chinese are building rapidly, and I think long term they will catch up with us, especially at this rate, and especially given all the stupid stuff that we're doing with our own military to weaken our own military's effectiveness.
But this, it seems to me, is an escalation.
However you look at it, it's one thing for China to increase its patrols in the South China Sea.
We're going to do some military exercises over Taiwan.
It's a whole other matter to say, all right, well, here's the United States.
We're going to show up in the United States' backyard and make a deal with Cuba.
And this is actually what the Chinese have done.
Debbie makes the point, and she's quite right, that this kind of ratcheting up always occurs when Democrats are in office.
And this is something that seems not to have gotten through to the American people.
The American people, at least a lot of them, seem to think, well, we get the Republicans, we get the Democrats, policies differ somewhat, not realizing that America is moved to a point of grave vulnerability.
And this is noticed by the Chinese, by the Russians, by the Iranians, by the Turks.
Everybody who doesn't wish us well, it seems, gets energized when Democrats come to power.
In fact, they were all celebrating when Biden was elected.
Think about this. Think about the significance of all your enemies breaking out their champagne, or if they don't drink champagne.
Just jumping up and down, Allah be praised, Allah be praised, or whatever the Chinese equivalent of that is.
They're all really happy that they've got a dude in the White House that they feel can be fully controlled for whatever reason, weakness, bribery, whatever, the Democrats or people that are enemies are very happy to have in office.
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What's So Great About Christianity, I'm discussing the hidden motives for atheism.
And I talked about, last time, the philosophy of materialism, an ancient philosophy with its roots in Epicurus, Democritus, Lucretius.
And I referred to a book by Benjamin Weicker called Moral Darwinism.
But now I want to fast forward to the 19th century, to Darwinism itself, and ask, why is Darwinism so appealing to In a sense, not scientifically, but psychologically.
Now, Darwin himself wrote the following.
He who understands baboon would do more toward metaphysics than Locke.
What is Darwin getting at here?
He's basically saying that ancient philosophers and early modern philosophers like Locke have tried to devise a system of morality by just looking at human nature.
But, says Darwin, the true place to find out what human nature is really like is to look at the continuum between human beings and other animals.
In other words, let's understand our animal nature.
This is the point of saying, let's look at the baboon.
And this may radically affect or change the way that we view morality.
Now, interestingly, what Darwin is getting at here is he wants to eliminate this idea of a kind of higher human nature.
In other words, a nature that separates human beings from other animals.
He wants to place man on a kind of spectrum.
Now, the distinctive feature of animals, of course, is that they have no developed sense of morality.
I don't deny animals have a certain kind of instinct that for example, draws them to the herd.
In some cases, even causes, for example, a mother sheep or a mother chimpanzee to rush to the protection of her own offspring.
That's not what we're talking about, but we're talking about this idea of an inner sense of right and wrong, an ability to see things as right or wrong and act upon those beliefs.
Animals really don't have that.
A gorilla doesn't distinguish between what is and what ought to be.
And so Darwinism then becomes a way to break free of the confines of traditional morality.
We can set aside the old restraints and simply quote, act in a way that comes naturally.
Now, if this seems like speculative on my part, Dinesh, you're sort of injecting this kind of psychological motive for Darwinism.
Maybe these people are just looking at the science.
Maybe they're just looking at the way that the fossil record falls out and so on.
But let's look at some of the leading Darwinists and listen to what they actually say.
From Darwin's own day, many people were drawn to his ideas, not just because they were well-documented, well-supported, but because they could be interpreted to undermine the traditional understanding of God.
Here's the biologist Julian Huxley.
He's the grandson of Darwin's friend and ally, Thomas Henry Huxley.
Here's Julian Huxley.
Quote, Which comes from rejecting the idea of God as a supernatural being is enormous.
So, here is a guy basically saying, I'm looking for a way to break free of the kind of supervision of God.
And from Julian's brother, Aldous Huxley, also a noted atheist, we have this revealing admission.
I had motives for not wanting the world to have a meaning.
Consequently, I assumed it had none and was able without any difficulty to find satisfying reasons for this assumption.
For myself, as no doubt for most of my contemporaries, the philosophy of meaninglessness was essentially an instrument of liberation.
The liberation we desired was liberation from a certain system of morality.
We objected to this morality because it interfered with our sexual freedom.
Wow. I mean, what's really striking to me about this quotation is it's candor.
Here's a guy basically saying, well, listen, it's not that I looked at the world out there, I searched for meaning, I didn't find any, oh, well, I was regrettably forced to conclude that the universe is meaningless.
He's saying, I didn't really want the world to be meaningful at all.
I didn't want there to be an established order, an established system of moral laws.
I didn't want to follow those laws, especially in the sexual domain.
So... I basically took meaninglessness as something that was a given.
I took it as a proposition that would be morally freeing.
So here we're really getting at people who are fessing up to, who are being open about what their real motives are.
As the statement of the two Huxleys suggests, the reason many atheists are drawn to deny God, especially the Christian God, is to avoid having to answer in their next life for their lack of moral restraint in this one.
Let me just close with a couple of quotations from Christianity itself.
Christianity places our actions under divine scrutiny.
Here is Paul writing in the letter of the Romans, chapter 2, 6-8, For he will render unto every man according to his works.
To those who by patience and well-doing seek for glory and honor and immortality, he will give eternal life.
But to those who are factious and do not obey the truth but obey wickedness, there will be wrath and fury.
Now, this is a very interesting quote, by the way.
And notice that the Bible in these passages does not hesitate to attach salvation and to attach happiness or unhappiness in the next life.
Directly to our actions in this one.
It's not just a matter of having faith.
Notice it explicitly says here that for he will render to every man according to his works.
And here's the book of Revelation.
As for the cowardly, the faithless, the polluted, the murderers, the fornicators, the sorcerers, the idolaters, and all liars, their lot shall be the lake that burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.
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