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June 26, 2024 - Doug Collins Podcast
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The Upcoming 2024 Presidential Question and Answer
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It's Wednesday before the big debate time as we're getting ready.
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I wanted to give you a little preview today.
Not specifically in the details of the debate.
I mean, I think we're going to talk about...
I'll talk about that a little bit.
But I want to just go into the fact of how debates can change things, how the words change things, and really some concerns.
Going back to an old classic, I graduated in 1984 from high school.
That was my graduating class year.
Some quotes from that...
George Orwell book 1984 also those are applicable these days because we're seeing this already playing out in the media and I want to talk about that a little bit today.
But so first off though, we're going to get to the, right after the message, we'll get into it.
Talking about the upcoming debate tomorrow night with Joe Biden and Donald Trump.
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As we look ahead to this debate, now one of the things I want to say, and I call it a debate simply because that's what everybody else is saying, but I also frame it and say this is not a debate.
This is a question and answer session.
And I get a lot of questions sometimes on that.
Like, well, Doug, why do you say that?
Why do you go on TV and Fox and all these others and say it's not a debate, it's a question and answer?
Because a debate, by its very nature, takes a premise or takes a answer, however you want to put this, and allows the other side to then give their own answer in response to the theory or the question.
I debated back in high school.
I enjoyed it where you would take a topic and you would divide up and you would have the for and the against.
And I think it's something that's so missing in today's society is this idea of rhetorical debate.
I heard this on the TV the other day.
I just wanted to throw a brick through the TV. A guy said, no, a debate is contentious and a debate is when you really get in and fight it out.
No.
I get what you're trying to say.
We've equated debates now with what I call food fights.
We say that what's happened in some of the committee hearings in Washington, D.C. where one side calls the other one something and the other side calls them out and the other side says take their word.
That's not a debate.
That's a food fight.
That's something that happens in the cafeteria in high school.
A debate is actually saying, for instance, let's just take a topic.
Let's say the Should women be in the draft?
Should taxes be cut?
And then you say, okay, here's what I believe about that.
You lay it out in a format, and then the other person, without a moderator, without somebody saying, okay, your time is up, you go to the other person.
The other person says, well, I disagree with that.
Here's what I think should actually happen.
Here's why I think you are wrong.
Although I respect that your opinion is to say that, but here's what I believe is wrong.
That's the debate.
And it doesn't have to get contentious.
It doesn't have to be that I hate you, you hate me.
It doesn't have to be anything.
It's just a simple understanding of this is how we frame the issues, how we see the issues, and here is how we resolve the issues.
That's what we need more in our society today.
We need more rhetoric.
We need more discussion.
Discussion and conversation is how you diffuse problems.
It's how you think out things.
It's how you come to a solution that fits a pluralistic and very divided society.
The path we're on right now does not do that.
And I believe this debate does not help that as well.
And calling in a debate is the first problem.
The next one is you have a question and answer by moderators who will then frame the issue into what you said and did not say.
This is a concern I have going into this debate with Donald Trump and Joe Biden.
Look, I think Joe Biden's going to show up.
I think he's going to be prepared.
I think they're going to do the best they can.
And I'm jokingly said he's going to be fully rested after a week at Camp David.
He's going to have his coffee.
He's going to have his, you know, I think he'll be fine.
I think Donald Trump's gonna be Donald Trump.
Donald Trump will do what he always does.
He'll have his Diet Cokes, he'll have whatever, and he'll be ready to go.
And we'll see how it goes.
I think the issue here will be is, from a Donald Trump perspective, which I think he comes in focused, like I've seen him focused in the last little bit, it's going to come off very well.
He's going to focus on immigration.
He's going to focus on economy.
He's going to focus on the crime rates.
He's going to focus on the illegal crime rates.
He's going to focus on our national and world standings.
And then he's going to get the jabs in it, Joe Biden on The issue of Hunter and the issue of, you're going to see that.
So we'll see how that all plays out.
Joe Biden is going to say convicted felon probably more than he says anything else.
He's going to talk about democracy and how dictatorship and how, you know, and again, no matter what the question, there's your primer.
That's a bingo card for you out there if you want to write these things down.
Just go back and look at some of the statements and there's your bingo card.
What will not be happening here and what I believe this debate format sets us up to worsening divide not a clear divide is because the questions will come and then with that moderator either injecting or saying you that's not true here's what you said previous now If they cut the mics off of each other when they're not supposed to be answering, then there's going to be relatively no give and take.
For any of you out there who believe there's going to be no give and take in this, I'm sorry.
You're just falsely wrong.
You're going to be able to hear the other one on the other mic.
Those mics are sensitive.
You'll be able to hear if somebody says something, and the moderators will probably have to call one or the other down in this situation.
But my question is, is why don't you put, you know, if you're wanting a debate, then you say, To both candidates, here's the question.
Is the American tax system right now currently the best that it can be for the American people?
Donald Trump, you get five minutes, whatever.
And then Donald Trump explains why he believes his tax cut and job taxes are great.
Why it actually stimulated business.
Why, if he wants to, you know, take the tax off of tips.
Why are those...
And then, Joe Biden, your response.
Well, Joe Biden can then talk about, I like to raise taxes.
I like to spend government money.
I like to...
And then, you know, attack it that way and then have each of them have a rebuttal.
Say, okay, Donald Trump, now back to you.
What is your response to that?
And then go back and forth.
Then take the next topic.
Without the innuendo Placement of voice, inflection of a moderator asking questions, and who gets what questions.
You know, like, I just doubt in my mind.
I think you're going to hear a lot about...
Issues of January 6th and democracy given to Donald Trump or even abortion, and you'll never hear the word Hunter Biden issued to Joe Biden.
I just don't.
So let's prepare ourselves a little bit more into the reality of what tomorrow night's going to be.
Is it going to be an interesting show?
Do I agree with what Van Jones said on CNN the other night, which was that most everybody's going to be watching?
Yeah, I mean, look, everybody's picked this up, even with the CNN logo on it.
I mean, think about this.
You're going to have Muse, Max, Fox.
Everybody's going to be doing this.
It's going to be one of the most watched debates that there has been ever, if you would.
So the stakes are pretty high, and they've got to know that.
And this is not playing to an audience of those who come to this debate saying, I'm already voting for Joe Biden.
I'm already voting for Donald Trump.
The real audience here will be, are there any in the middle that say, well, I'm leaning one way or the other, and this might determine it.
Will they look at how Donald Trump handles it and say, I like this, or I don't like this?
Will they look at Joe Biden?
Will he freeze up?
Will he get tired?
Will he lower his head?
What will the body languages be?
This is all things that will come out of this debate.
What I'm concerned will not come out of this debate.
In fact, let me rephrase.
I know will not come out of this debate.
It's substantive Policy discussions about issues in this country.
You will hear two minute answers.
You will hear 30 second or 40 second rebuttals.
You will hear Some frustration, but actual probably substantive debates between the two, probably not going to happen.
I think the, I'll go back behind the scenes here.
I think the Trump team definitely wanted this debate.
They wanted to frame this early.
They do believe that Joe Biden is vulnerable.
We'll see how that works out during this time.
Donald Trump has done a good job of maintaining expectations, I think, by saying that Joe Biden isn't a polished debater.
He's done it before.
Can he rise to the challenge again?
That'll be the question.
The question for Donald Trump is staying focused and making sure that if he's going to press Joe Biden, how he does it and make sure that it gets to a point where Joe Biden gets frustrated.
We've seen what happens when Joe Biden gets frustrated.
He loses his train of thought.
He snaps at the interviewers.
He snaps at the questions.
Or then he just goes sort of silent with that stunned sort of blank stare, which we've seen a lot of here recently in non-stressful environments.
It's going to be interesting to see how he handles the stressful environment.
But what I want to get to, just for a few more minutes today, as we prep this behind the scenes, I think it's interesting that, to me, if you're worried about a debate performance, as someone who's debated, and I'm using again, please hear me.
I'm using the term debate simply because it's what most of you understand.
If I said question and answers, most of you would say, what are you talking about?
So I'm bending to the will of the masses here to call it a debate.
I've done many, many of these, more than I want to count.
And they're not fun, typically, even if they're question and answer, but especially if you get to answer, you know, the debates and forums that I've always been a part of, typically they'll have at least one question in which the candidate can ask the other candidate a question.
Now, these are typically planned.
You do it for a specific purpose or reason.
You're trying to elicit the other candidate to have to talk about something they don't want to talk about.
And those can actually sometimes be the most meaningful in the entire debate because they're getting away from the canned answers, canned questions, and going to something that You know, might actually reveal a darker or interesting truth about the opponent that you're looking for.
So I think it's going to be interesting to see what happens here, but the preparation for these things It can be over-preparation.
You're going to hear from...
My thought is, Donald Trump, from what we have heard, he's done some policy discussions.
He does his sort of moving-as-you-go kind of prep for this, saying, look, they're going to probably talk about this, they're going to probably talk about this.
And, you know, he sort of prepares his comments on a as-you-go basis to...
You know, give as he comes off very spontaneous.
Joe Biden is going to come off very practiced.
You will hear very crisp lines.
If he is able to pull them off, Joe Biden will have anticipated the questions because they've been feeding him for a week.
This is where, though, it's going to get interesting.
I think it could come across as so force-fed from Joe Biden that people look at it as almost robotic, almost that he is not there.
It'll be interesting to see if Joe Biden's own personality of slip-ups and other things that he is known for will come out.
But for someone that has been a lot of concern about cognitive ability, Joe Biden The fear of the Biden campaign is that he was going to freeze up, that he's going to say something and just not be able to respond.
And that would be the thing that they are fearful of the most, like we've seen him do in some of these interviews, or he just sort of just walks off.
I mean, that would be the absolute, you know, problematic for them.
So they're hoping that that will stay away.
But also to me, I think from a voter standpoint, the also concern should be That he actually gives answers, just as the Trump team would be fearful of not getting too far off of the question and bringing in extraneous things that which the president is very good at.
Donald Trump's very good at bringing in stories and doing, he keeps them crisp to the point on answer.
The question for Joe Biden will be, Does he come across as too formulaic?
Does he come across as canned lines, like he's been holding that line?
We saw this in the question and answer sessions with the Republican candidates, which Donald Trump didn't participate in.
You know, Nikki Haley, Vivek Ramaswamy, all these others were holding their lines, and you could tell.
When they delivered them, you could tell.
That was what they'd practiced all week.
But Joe Biden's been practicing a week.
I mean, this is for a 90-minute debate about a presidency that you're currently involved in.
That's a little bit overkill to me.
My thing is, I don't think they're probably practicing as much.
They've got 16 advisors.
They're putting all this kind of stuff out there.
I think they're, frankly, just letting him go rest for a while.
I think they're just letting him go after he's been traveling.
He's been overseas several times.
I think they're just sending him to Camp David, letting him sit by the pool, letting him You know, watch TV, read books, whatever he wants to do, just to clear his mind.
I think that is one of the best preps that you can do for these is narrow it in as you get closer to the time.
The concern over debates and over our political rhetoric, though, has led me to remember back in time Some quotes from 1984. I mentioned this as we were going forward.
There's some quotes out of that book, though, that really stick out to me that I just want to talk about it because it's language and manipulation of language that is so important.
And this one, it comes across out of George Orwell in the dystopian novel about mind control and Big Brother and all.
And this one is an interesting one because I think it goes into what we've talked about with the press, we've talked about with The reinvention of our press, our journalistic ethics, journalistic integrity, whatever you may call it.
And in the book it said, one of the quotes out of the book from Orwell says, who controls the past controls the future, and who controls the present controls the past.
Think about that one for a second.
This is something that is very important, I think, in our national ethos to understand, that the past It determines our future.
In many ways, it's like the old saying, if you want to see where you're going to be and 20 years, just look at the people that you hang around.
Just look at the influences around you, the past influences, you know, where we're heading in the future.
And you can't take our country in the last 20 years through wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, the conflicts with terrorists in the Middle East.
You look at the housing market debacle.
You look at the Obama presidency.
You look at the Biden presidency.
You look at the Trump presidency.
All of that has played into the COVID crisis.
Issues and all that we've seen come up.
It determined, you know, sort of the fears and the concerns about the future for our country.
But also those that control the present control the past.
And this has become the storyline, especially with the Democrats and democracy.
They want to, they're wanting to look back and frame stories in lights that only they can control.
And I think that's become the narrative that, in my mind, the media is the biggest unreported narrative.
That we're seeing.
And we're seeing the, you know, whether it be the January 6th commission, which was, you know, put together out of bounds for the House of Representatives.
And then when they actually had hearings, they didn't really have hearings.
They had choreographed, produced, Hollywood-style interviews that were designed for the biggest splash.
Then they destroyed their documents.
They destroyed evidence.
They thought they destroyed everything, but Barry Loudermilk, Congressman from Georgia, who's heading up the investigation, On the House Administration Committee shows that they withheld things that they should have already turned over about that investigation and also destroyed other evidence.
If you are so sure of your facts and determinations about an event, then why would you destroy evidence?
Why would you not put forward everything?
Why would you not have a countering viewpoint on the committee that would say and ask questions about stuff?
This is what I mean by the present controlling the past.
The present and those who are in charge can control what you see, what you hear, and what you understand.
That is why the news media is becoming so untrusted, even more so in many ways, is because of their unwillful retelling of stories without emphasizing both sides, whether you like it or not.
So you always have the hope that the present can actually change into the future.
But, you know, look, with these debates, with these question-answer sessions, you know, will that actually happen?
I'm not sure.
My hope is that most of you will watch this debate.
You will watch what happens.
I don't expect much out of the...
And that doesn't mean that both men are not going to say things that are not going to be reportable.
That's a given.
They're going to say things that are reportable.
I think Donald Trump now, he's picked up on this no tax on tips issue.
You'll see some more issues on foreign wars, Ukraine, the Afghanistan debacle that was a withdrawal.
You're going to see Joe Biden again hit on democracy in January 6th, and Donald Trump being a criminal, convicted felon, and all these things.
But what I'll ask and you do in watching this debate is watch for the intangibles.
Watch how the moderators handle this.
Watch how the mics are cut off.
Are the mics cut off evenly?
Are there timing issues that are going to go here?
Do the moderators go back at one of the other candidates more than they go back at the other one to either clarify their question or try to correct an answer that the participants given?
Look, I don't think it's their job to correct an answer.
Now, if you want to follow up with a question that says, Okay, you just said that the statistics said that more people like chocolate ice cream than vanilla ice cream.
Several polls that we have here show just the opposite.
What are you citing?
Now that's, you know, again, I think that's within a bounce, but if you just don't like the answer, Or you believe the answer to be wrong, then that's for the American people to decide not Jake Tapper or Dana Bash.
So we're going to see how that works out.
Also see how it works without an audience there.
It's going to be a very sterile environment, which means that the moderators actually will have more control over this environment.
So a lot going on.
Just wanted to give you a little bit of reminder here, though, that remember, The reason we fight for truth, the reason we stay on this podcast, the reason we encourage you to go read.
Read for yourself.
Make your own assessments.
Make your own judgments.
A free-thinking populace is the very essence and backbone of the American democracy.
It's not do you believe what some popular politician says.
It's what do you believe about our Constitution?
What do you believe about our country?
What do you believe about the issues?
Because you yourself have studied it and you understand based on the wealth of knowledge that is out there through the internet and books and everything else.
Yes, you can still open a book.
And read.
It is very helpful to you.
That will be on either side of y'all.
We've got to see what happens.
So, debate tomorrow night.
We're going to have a lot of post-game wrap-up on this with Chip Lake on Friday, Friday's Finest.
We've got a lot of other just exciting things coming up in the next few weeks.
Just to let you know, Bruce Thompson, Labor Commissioner here.
George is going to be on with us.
Lee Zeldin, great guy, great friend from former Congress from up in New York.
Should be Governor of New York.
He'll be with us in the coming little bit weeks.
We've got Patrick Murphy, former Democrat...
Or a Democrat from Pennsylvania who's going to be coming ahead on the show.
We look forward to having him on.
Other things, just some surprises coming up as well, so you won't want to miss that as we go.
But before we get out of here, go out and have a good day.
Look forward to seeing you again on Friday as we discuss post-wrap-up of this question-answer session here in Atlanta.
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