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Georgia GOP Congressman Doug Collins.
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The greatest thing I have ever heard in my whole life.
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In this house, wherever the rules are disregarded, chaos and mob rule.
It has been said today, where is bravery?
I'll tell you where bravery is found and courage is found.
It's found in this minority who has lived through the last year of nothing but rules being broken, people being put down, questions not being answered, and this majority say, be damned with anything else.
We're going to impeach and do whatever we want to do.
Why?
Because we won an election.
I guarantee you, one day you'll be back in the minority and it ain't gonna be that fun.
Hey everybody, welcome back.
It's Friday's Finest.
Yes, it is time to discuss all of the world and all of this within it with experts.
Well, not really, but hey, we're there anyway.
We're going to give our opinions today as we do every day.
We've got James Jep online.
Everything is good for the day as we go.
Lots going on from political side.
Robert Kennedy, we talked about this earlier, picking his...
I want to chip into this a little bit.
I think it's, as we've talked about before, I think it's going to be more democratic orientated here.
And then also we've got opening day from baseball.
For those of us, you know, back ready for baseball a little bit, this is interesting, but baseball has started off.
And we're going to get into this a little bit.
Baseball has just been continuing to fall out of favor with so many Americans.
And then the way they started this year didn't help it at all with this sort of split bifurcation.
And then you got the most famous baseball player in the world is now all but accused of betting.
So, I mean, it's like, okay, here we go again in this stuff.
But lots to talk about here on the show.
They're going to have a lot of good times.
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We're going to kick into it.
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Chip, James, good to have you all on today.
Chip, let's get started a little bit on some political.
I want to hit this.
Lots been made of and said about the presidential race, and it's the first time, Chip, in a long time when there's been valid or at least discussions of the third-party candidate wave.
And I've also, I've had some folks in recent years who, you know, have come up On the Republican side, you know, and you and I have lived through the problems with voting and electoral, all this kind of stuff.
But one of the things that was actually absent in many of the 2020 races is the third party candidates were not present on the ballots in many states in 2020. The Green Party, Jill Stein and all this, which it affected,
you can show had an effect on the Hillary Clinton turnout in 2016. What are you seeing right now, and especially with Robert Kennedy now going, you know, he had an opportunity to stay middle of the road or even go a little right.
He took a hard left on picking Shannon the running back.
How do you see that playing out with a third party this time?
Yeah, I mean, look, you know, a lot of people don't know.
I mean, they, you know, they think, Doug, these are national elections and they are, but they're really 50 different elections in 50 different states, right?
Because, you know, each state has different rules and laws that govern ballot access.
And so, you know, it's not like Robert F. Kennedy is going to be on the ballot in 50 states.
That won't be the case, right?
But I was very intrigued by his, not only by his announcement of Nicole Shanahan, but also how it was kind of rolled out.
I was curious because I didn't know a lot about her.
You know, when her name was popping up as a possible VP pick.
So I just, you know, it doesn't take a lot to Google her and realize, you know, where she stands politically.
And, you know, Robert F. Kennedy has made inroads, you know, with...
With folks on the right because of his anti-vaccine stance.
And, you know, it's kind of funny, a couple things.
Both CNN and Fox were planning on covering the announcement from Nicole Shanahan, but Kennedy wouldn't shut up.
He kept talking and he kept talking.
So when Kennedy got on stage in Oakland to introduce his vice presidential nominee, you know, everybody assumed it would be a three or four minute lead in introduction.
And then, you know, the vice president nominated it.
Anytime a presidential nominee announced their vice president's pick, It's for the Vice President to talk.
Kennedy wouldn't shut up.
And both of them finally had to leave live coverage to go cover other things because...
And so I didn't get to see Nicole Shanahan, but I was struck, Doug, by...
He kept on kind of preferencing.
When I was looking for a vice president, I was looking for somebody who was strong on environmentalism and somebody who was strong on this and strong on that and strong on this and strong on that.
And I couldn't help but think about how few of those boxes Aaron Rodgers checked.
Yeah, look, it's going to be a bigger problem for the Democrats.
They now have, you know, sans Kennedy stance on vaccinations.
You know, they now have a Kennedy on the ballot with, you know, a younger progressive liberal as a vice president.
And they're clearly going to take away more votes from Joe Biden than they will Donald Trump, in my opinion.
Here's a question.
Did this VP pick keep him from his courting?
Because there's been, and this is where I would say there'd be a change, Chip, if he actually courted or they courted back with the Libertarian Party, which has ballot access basically in all 50 states.
I don't think he'll go green.
I mean, because Stein says she's running again.
But the Libertarian is still an open process.
Because like in Georgia, he would be on the ballot automatically on Libertarian ticket.
So if that happened, could you see...
Is it a potential?
Not that it would.
Is there a potential...
Perot kind of problem here, where at that point, you take 4% or 5% off the ballot for both Republicans and Democrats in some of these states.
Oh, yeah.
Look, if that happened, I don't think that's going to happen because I think there's too many...
You know, too many libertarians within the party have been libertarians 25, 30 years that would probably throw a fit with somebody like, but yeah, no, absolutely.
I mean, look, you know, Jon Stewart made a joke a couple days ago and said, you know, both parties are waiting for their nominees to die.
I think I would disagree with that and say both parties are waiting for the other party's nominee to die.
Exactly.
But yeah, look, it's a rematch.
Look at polling data.
It's not a rematch that a lot of America is happy with.
And so, yeah, look, we hear every four years, it looks like the environment is ripe for a third party.
And when I say the environment, I just mean...
You know, political environment.
And, you know, one would think that would exist this year, but look at who we have.
I mean, no labels.
We talked about no labels.
They have access in 17 states.
And they couldn't even get Jeff Duncan to go through the vetting process.
I mean, Chris Christie said no to him this week.
And so, yeah, look, you know, it's so, so hard, right?
Not only is ballot access hard, but then you got to define where you are and, you know, where you are in the political spectrum.
And when you have to define where you are in the political spectrum, you know, that's when all of a sudden the shine gets, you know, worn off a little bit.
And, you know, there's a reason that becoming president of the United States is very hard.
Exactly.
Well, you know, it was one of those things that the concern, and I heard this from people in D.C., and Chip, I know you have the contacts in D.C. They were really concerned about a no-labels Joe Manchin, Mitt Romney.
Of course.
Especially Republicans.
That would have been a very difficult...
Utah could conceivably have been won by a no-labels ticket.
Sure.
Not that it would have, but it could have.
Or it would have been a very...
Yeah, because winning at that point in time is in the mid-30s.
Exactly.
And Democrats could actually take that race.
I've always said it, though, there was some discussion.
I had a conversation with a political consultant the other day saying that they were hoping that we'd see third party action in Georgia.
And I'm saying, you really don't want third party action in Georgia.
Number one, it doesn't necessarily do what you think it does, number one.
And number two, third party action in Georgia The effect would be to take away...
They're not going to take away the Democrat vote.
They could conceivably take away some Republican vote.
It's better...
Again, the Libertarian...
How many times have we talked about this in the last 20-something years?
Nobody likes to talk about it, but that Libertarian vote is just enough in Georgia because of our runoff system to cause havoc at times.
That's right.
So we'll see.
I'll agree with you.
It's going to be harder for him, but although I've heard that yapping a little bit more, but if they put him on the Libertarian ticket and he doesn't run as a true independent, then yeah, he makes a much bigger difference in this race, I think.
You have to at least count him in in some of these races.
Agreed.
Not as a winner.
Yeah, that's right.
And I think that's it.
Interesting day here in Georgia.
For those of you, we talk about it, we laugh about it here on the podcast all the time, sports betting.
By the time many of you hear this, we're having a tape on Thursday.
By the time you hear this, Georgia will know if they're going to have a chance at sports betting come today.
I think they're going to take the least, what I consider the path of sports.
Least legislator resistance, and that is they're going to put it as a constitutional amendment, which doesn't need to happen, by the way.
Every legal scholar has looked at it and said, no, they don't need to do this.
But it gives the legislators room to vote for it and says, well, the people can decide.
Also, the governor doesn't have to sign that.
Yeah, that's exactly right.
I mean, it will be curious to see, Doug.
They went in, what, 15, 20 minutes ago?
And I know this is a tape program, so that's really irrelevant.
But yeah, that'll be until midnight tonight.
And you're right, by the time we get there tomorrow, we'll know.
And, you know, it is the path of least resistance.
But as a political consultant, I'm all for the people deciding constitutional referendums.
I think that's probably a bad way to make policy in most instances.
But, you know, at the same time...
You know, it'll be colorful and it'll be fun to watch.
And, you know, there'll probably be a lot of activity and money on both sides.
And I'm curious to see if it manifests itself, how it shakes out.
Well, here's my concern, Chip.
And let's just talk, you know, politics.
How does it play in a political?
Normally, you put constitutional amendments on the ballot if you're a majority.
You put it on the ballot because it helps you drive turnout.
Yeah.
Okay?
You do it for, like, English as a second language.
No illegals be able to vote.
That kind of stuff.
You know, you see these that drive turnout.
And Georgia used to do it well with Republican turnout drives.
Something with Second Amendment, you know, those kind of things.
This one, though, think about this for a second.
It may not be necessarily a Trump or Biden issue, okay?
But it's something that will draw...
Republican evangelicals, some who just, they make their case, they don't like gambling at all.
This is sort of the same thing back in the lottery back in 92 when it first came in.
Just a quick thought, this is a first impression kind of question.
Could this backfire for Republicans bringing out both for and against on this issue?
You know, it's possible, Doug, but I, you know, and I don't have a, I mean, right now, I don't have a dog in that fight.
I don't have a client.
I think, personally, I'd like to see sports betting, right?
You know, I think it would be a good thing.
But from the data that I've seen over the years, you know, just about all Democrats are for it and about half the Republicans are for it.
And so rank and file Republicans, voters, people that don't go to the Capitol every day, people that, you know, the government affairs experts and lobbyists and things like that, right?
It's more of a, you know, it's just kind of a more of a freedom issue and things like that.
And so, Yeah, and Doug, too, we also, you know, just because there's sports betting in Georgia doesn't mean there's going to be a sports book at every street corner.
To the contrary, it's going to be limited at first.
The scale is going to be limited.
Yeah, and it'll be more mobile.
That's right.
You know, more mobile and at the stadiums, you know, at the professional sports stadiums.
And so, yeah, I mean, look, there's always that possibility, but I think that's more of a risk in a non-presidential election year.
Doug, because I think in presidential election years, you know, turnout is always generated by the presidential ballot.
And so, yeah, it's just something we ought to watch and see how it plays out.
I agree with you completely.
Here's my quick hot take on this, and it's pure hot take.
I think in the end, because of Trump's in the presidential side, and remember, the reason I talk about this, folks, and Chip and I are going to dig into this later in the year, but Georgia is going to be a unique case because we have no...
Unifying statewide person on the ballot.
Nobody's on that ballot except the president at this point.
And you got very little elections things going on in the general in November for turnout.
So you got counties in which this will be this and the presidential will be the only thing.
I'm going to be a little like you.
I'm not sure.
But I will say this.
If the evangelical vote sticks with Trump, which you feel that it will, especially in rural counties and other places, then this will be a help.
Now, here may be the funny part.
The same people who will vote for Donald Trump who owns casinos.
Yeah, I know.
We're going to vote no on sports betting.
You're right.
Hey, politics makes strange bedfellows.
You better believe it, baby.
But that could end up, I think, helping Trump because maybe it could turn out 10% more.
I'm just not sure.
Again, we're going to leave this topic and get on to some fun topics here.
I'm just not sure what we saw in the 80s and 90s on what we'll call moral issue voting.
Not people, not candidates.
I think that's still there.
A pro-life candidate, I think those are still there.
But these kind of issues, I'm wondering if you're going to see the insurgents like we saw in 1992 with the lottery in Georgia.
I just don't think we will.
I don't think so either.
I think it's a new era and I think your assessment is correct.
All right, whatever.
And that brings us into, out of the political section, and into, and here he comes, full video and all.
There he is.
Oh my!
There he is.
James is here.
With the Mets hat on.
I had to get the Mr. Met doing a slide.
Yeah, and he ends up about three feet short of the bag.
Well, now they can't slide at all because you can't put your foot in front of...
Sorry, I saw that stupid play the other day where the guy, you can't put your foot in front of the bag.
I don't understand.
I thought the whole point was...
Doesn't matter.
Major League Baseball has made enough faux pas.
We can't even jump out of that one because there's like 70 others we got to get to first.
But speaking of gambling, first of all, gentlemen, if I get phone calls from you like, hey, I need a couple hundred dollars because I bet all my money on Kirk Cousins winning the Super Bowl this year, I don't want to hear it.
All right?
Oh, my God.
Here we're at bagging it.
Chip, you missed this last week.
It was like a shovel picking him up off the floor.
I mean, it's like, oh, my God.
I'm fine.
Everything's fine.
I'm fine.
We love it.
Hey, welcome to the – and for everybody listening in, now you know the fun has arrived.
James is here.
Here's a question for both, and Chip and James, y'all both brought this sort of up.
Is there any possible way that baseball can screw up its public image even more?
I mean, it's just people, I mean, they make rules changes.
I gotta give that.
The ball games did go quicker last year.
I'll give them that.
That part was needed.
We thought they fixed it.
We thought they fixed the problems.
But now it's like we're entering into a year in which supposedly opening day was last week in Korea.
Now you got Shohei Ohtani, who is the, again, the face of American Major League Baseball is Shohei Ohtani.
The best player we've seen in 100 years, it feels like.
All right, let's take a quick poll.
How many of you believe he didn't bet?
Oh, well.
I'm going to turn my camera off so I don't get in trouble.
Ain't no way he didn't know $4 million was coming out of his pocket like that.
Well, and look, I mean, this has all the markings of a huge story when you get to the bottom of it because, I mean, you know, his interpreter is in the dugout with him in Korea, and the Dodgers are the ones that have to tell Shohei that $4.5 million is missing from his account.
I mean, I don't know, man.
I think there's more to this story, and I think we're going to find out I think we'll get to the bottom of this over time.
It's just hard to give Shohei the benefit of the doubt right now.
I want to, but...
I don't know why he said he didn't know anything.
Why?
Why did they put him out there?
Why?
I don't understand.
Again, I am not a lawyer.
I said this to Doug the other day.
But why would you even go out there and say, I didn't know a thing about it?
If they find one text message, it's over.
It's done.
One little piece of email.
Yeah, you don't put him out there.
And what's even worse is like, Now, I'm not saying that the guy wasn't stealing from him.
We don't know for sure.
It could be the case.
Two things can be true at once.
He could be betting through his interpreter and his interpreter could be stealing.
Both of those could be the case.
Sorry, go ahead.
No, my question is this, though.
The reality of this, because is it, and maybe I don't know, because I don't follow the show Hay-O-Tani story that closely, okay?
I haven't for, you know, I mean, I would do it from a distance, but isn't this, wasn't this interpreter like one of his Best friends?
Like, you know, wasn't they close?
He might have had to betray his best friend.
Now, listen, if the case is that Otani was giving his friend money, which is what I thought at first, and he was trying to cover that up, which I thought was stupid, take a couple games suspension and leave.
Because MLB is not going to get rid of you forever if you were helping your friend.
They'll suspend you 100%, but you'll get through it.
But he might have just had to throw his bet.
His lawyers looked at him and was like, it's either you or it's your pal.
And his pal's on the way out.
But the craziest part of the story is when they dug in and they found out that the interpreter had a bunch of fake things on his resume.
Did you guys see that part of it?
No, I didn't.
He supposedly went to a college.
They don't have him on record at all.
And it says he was an interpreter for the Yankees and the Red Sox before this, and that wasn't true either.
So no background.
Now, listen, they didn't have to because Shohei's like, I either sign with you and he comes with me or you don't get me.
So they probably did no background checks.
They didn't care.
Yeah, it doesn't matter.
Take whoever you want.
Bring your whole family.
Bring all of Japan with you.
As long as you sign with the Dodgers, we'll do whatever you want.
Maybe I missed this.
Who is paying the interpreter?
Is he a personal employee of Otani?
Or was he an employee of the Dodgers?
Now, I did hear one thing, and I have a question for you guys, because I have no money.
So all of my money coming out of my account is seen in every step.
You guys might have a little more money than I do.
So I have a question.
Have you ever had money sent out that you didn't sign for?
Like, let's say you were donating to something.
Was somebody able to sign for you and all your information?
Do any of you have managers for anything?
Because I was thinking about this.
Does Lisa count?
Great, but that is important.
If Lisa's sending out money, has she ever done all the information in your name?
I'm being honest.
The only reason I'm asking is because if he has...
Yes, but she's on the account.
Sure.
That's my point.
If Shohei's guy...
April and Lisa have a very good arrangement.
You do not mess with April and Lisa's arrangement here.
We don't touch that.
Well, the reason I'm asking is because...
Let's say Shohei, this is Shohei's money.
This guy does everything for Shohei, pretty much, right?
He might have access to his information.
So let's say he takes out $2 million or something like that.
The bank's going to call and be like, hey, are you sure this is you?
Blah, blah, blah.
He might just have that information.
I mean, it's not crazy to think he's got the pins, the account numbers, all that stuff.
No, no, no.
No, wait, wait.
Look, I get what you're going at.
Because, look, we see this all the time with big accounts.
They have money managers.
I mean, how many ballplayers have been left by their accountant?
I mean, they even did a Rocky, okay, about an accountant taking all their money.
It happens.
I think this one, the bigger problem here is, and the thing that I think Major League Baseball is fumbling on right here, is they have an issue.
Gambling is legal in California, okay?
It is, the problem comes in the moral turpitude of the Major League Baseball Not wanting the appearance of gambling on baseball.
He also gambled with a bookie, though.
Not an illegal bookie.
Not legally.
That's the problem.
But my question is, do we know the bets?
I've only heard the amounts.
What were they betting on?
Well, we can't find out because it was an illegal bookie.
So, until the bookie would come forth and be like, yeah, he bet the under on LeBron getting 20 points.
This is so problematic.
But the problem is, now you're going to have to prove it.
You've got to show this illegal bookie.
This illegal bookie is not going to want to be found anywhere.
No, absolutely not.
He probably not is already being able to be found because he may have already been put in hiding.
Wait a minute.
No, no, no.
The reason this was found out is because they were already onto the bookie.
They were investigating the bookie, which is how we found out about all this.
I thought they found out through the money first.
So they found out through the bookie.
There was an investigation ongoing of the bookie.
And then the money transaction to the book was higher than any that they had.
Oh, imagine finding that jackpot.
Could you imagine, let's say, I don't know if it's an FBI agent or whoever's looking into it, but what if you're just like a local cop looking into it and all of a sudden you're like, is that Shohei O'Khani?
No way.
Dude, we gotta do this.
We gotta take this to the press immediately.
And that's why there are too many players who In this transaction.
There are too many entities in this transaction for this not to continue to develop.
And what's going to happen is it's going to drip, drip, drip, drip.
And James might be right.
Maybe the guy did have Maybe the guy did rip Shohei off.
Maybe he did.
We're about to hear all about it over time.
Here's the out question.
Here's the out question on this issue.
With what we know now, at this proceeding...
What's your prediction, quickly?
What's your prediction for Otani?
I'll go first.
I'll just relieve the burden.
I think he does not finish the year playing with the Dodgers.
I think he is...
I think the turn will be...
At least a year or better suspension from baseball.
Doug, I think it depends on if he bet on baseball, right?
If he was betting on football and basketball and darts and everything else, I think he can avoid a lengthy suspension.
If he bet on baseball...
He's in for a year.
He's in for a year.
I don't know anywhere.
If he bet on baseball, he's out.
Or they have to put Pete Rose in the Hall of Fame.
There we go.
Here's the thing.
There's no way baseball is going to allow him to get suspended.
They are going to do everything humanly possible to cover up anything that he did wrong because he is the most important thing in baseball outside of, like, a Yankees-Red Sox, you know, ALCS. Cover-ups...
Generally cover-ups only work when the lights aren't shining really, really bright on the stage.
It's easy to do a cover-up When the underlying activity is not known to the public.
It's a lot harder to do a cover-up when the underlying activity is suspected of the public.
But I can assure you of one thing.
I know one thing for certain.
There is no chance that Shohei Otani learns better English in the next year.
Yeah.
No chance.
I saw one of my best memes before we move on.
The best Twitter post I saw on this whole thing was, you know, wouldn't it be, you know, I said the real discovery of this whole issue will be the fact that Shohei Otani speaks perfect English.
Yeah.
The internet, it's really, the internet was meant for moments like this.
This is what it is for.
It's just undefeated.
All right, speaking of internets and moving on, before we allow James to melt down here in a minute about his new quarterback, J.J. McCarthy, the Royals.
Chip, I'm going to draw a little bit on...
Now, James is our public...
And James has made it very clear he thinks that we finished the Royals issue in 1776. They're useless.
They mean nothing to anyone.
Well, I'm not going to argue the point, but Chip, you and I have dealt with public relations for most of our adult life.
How can a group that is so wealthy, so able to obtain whatever they want, be so absolutely terrible at PR? Who, Major League Baseball?
No, the Royals.
No, yeah.
Yeah, the Royals.
The Royals.
Not the Kansas City Royals.
We'll get Scott Paradise in for that.
But no.
Kate Middleton.
The Royals.
Oh, I did.
I lost...
See, you're on with James here.
They don't matter.
I asked you guys for like 20 seconds.
I had to log back on, so I missed that.
No, it's...
Look, it's just...
I mean, no.
I can't answer that question.
I mean, I have...
In today's day and age, there's really no secrets.
You just got to determine when you want to have to tell the truth or shape the truth.
And they're not good at that either.
So not only are they not good at lying, it's bad when you're not good at lying and you're not good at telling the truth.
Yeah.
Because then your PR has zero chance at being effective.
Zero.
Exactly.
James, in looking at it, I know you don't care.
No, this is fun for me.
I don't mind picking on the British.
The fun part here is, I mean, she puts out a video, and we'll bring this back into public life here.
She puts out this video saying, I had this surgery, they found out cancer, and basically CNN, which I thought was hilarious, CNN on one of the shows has a doctor of oncology in New York basically say...
That story ain't...
I have problems with that story.
And he said there's no such thing as preemptive chemotherapy.
Right.
It's like, okay, what...
You know, the problem here...
And then while they're silent, everything from she's dead...
I mean, this is becoming the Paul McCartney of the story of 2024. Paul McCartney's been dead for 60 years.
You know, they've got a body double in.
You go all the way to the fact that the king...
Now you've got...
You know, the story of Harry coming home for 24 hours, which again, I don't understand that one at all.
You know, no matter how bad you and your dad may not get along, you fly all the way to England from Los Angeles, you stay less than 24 hours and get back on a plane and go back?
It's just amazing.
And look, I had lung cancer last year and I had a lobe of my lung taken out in June.
And they suspected that it was cancerous, but they had to go in and take it out and test it in order to determine it.
So you're telling me she went in for abdominal surgery, knew she was going to have to stay in and recover for two weeks?
And all of a sudden, she gives a video and says, at the time, it wasn't cancerous, or they didn't think it was cancerous.
Baloney, of course they thought it was cancerous.
They sent a sample off during surgery.
But they didn't know.
They needed to get it out of your stomach and test it.
I mean...
Come on.
I'm not going to jump on the cancer thing because obviously, Chip, I didn't know that.
So I'm sorry.
That's incredible that you're okay.
My cousin just got cancer.
She just got through it.
So the cancer thing, this is the first cancer video that felt like a hostage video.
Like, she was forced to tell people she had cancer.
Yeah.
I mean, let's be honest about it.
Whatever...
If she has cancer, that is...
I mean, she does.
Let's just say she has cancer.
That is absolutely terrible.
She has cancer.
That is a nightmare.
Her PR team...
Do you know how quick...
Like, that's the only reason it feels suspicious.
It's like, why wouldn't you say that immediately?
Like, what is her standing in...
Like, I guess...
This is my question.
If...
If Joe Biden's wife had cancer, we would know immediately.
What is the downside of knowing?
Right?
There is no downside of knowing that she has cancer.
She said they wanted their kids to know, but...
You're a lawyer.
You have a choice.
You're one of the most famous people on the planet.
What do you think?
Everybody's going to be quiet in that hospital?
Did they have a gun to everybody in that hospital?
You better not say anything, otherwise the King Charles and his fat fingers are going to come get you.
There's no rules.
It doesn't make sense.
This goes back to a situation Chip and I... had some dealings with on a totally different subject we're not going to talk about in detail.
But it's one of those things where you could have, if coming out and doing it, you could have gained ground.
You know, you didn't, you know, instead of trying to be sneaky about it or hiding with it, you could have, you know, done it before and gained ground.
And that's what I don't understand.
The Royals seem to always want to go the start line, run backwards 50 yards, and then try to run forward.
People would have been super sympathetic.
Oh my God, she has cancer.
We're not going to talk about that their marriage is in shambles and this, that, and the other.
She was in hiding for months.
She's the new Lady Di.
I mean, they've got to understand that she's compared to Diana completely.
But if she would have come out directly and said there was cancer, folks like me would have never heard of Rose Hanberry.
So there you have that.
I never knew that one.
There we go.
Now we get into the real stuff.
Moving on here real quickly.
The draft is coming up.
We'll probably save a little more of our draft discussion until next week.
But James, we wanted to give you at least a minute or two to vent or to expound on the greatness of your new quarterback, J.J. McCarthy.
And it looks like it's coming out.
I do have a question.
I'm going to let James build up here.
So just stay here for a second, James.
Chip, did I miss something about Drake May?
Did something happen?
Because James brought this up earlier before we started today.
We were talking offline.
Drake May's not even discussed as much anymore, except they'll put him on the board, but nobody says anything about it.
Yeah, I mean, I don't think you missed anything, Doug.
I just think, look, this is a, it's a quarterback-rich draft, and, you know, Drake's kind of, you know, he's We're good to go.
There will be, and I don't know where they will be.
We very rarely ever know where they'll be, but there will be some big surprises on draft day at the quarterback position.
I think there could be five quarterbacks off the board by pick 12. All right.
Well, James, we're coming to you now.
You got McCarthy.
I mean, I will say, I alerted you to the fact that your coach was on McCarthy, and he did well.
He sort of didn't give away anything, but...
Again, McCarthy doesn't seem to be a fit for Minnesota.
Alright, so this is how I'm looking at it.
I think we said this, I said this either last week or the week before, that I said I'd rather be irrational and delusional than sad.
So I've taken that route very strongly.
I'm all in on whatever quarterback the Vikings decide to take.
Here's why.
Kevin O'Connell, I genuinely believe, is a genius.
I think he can do almost anything with any quarterback.
For God's sakes, he made the pastor not famous for about two weeks, right?
Let's be honest.
It all went downhill from there, but whatever.
My point is that, and I hate agreeing with Colin Coward because he's wrong 98% of the time.
So this is part of the delusional part.
He was like, the Vikings are a furnished apartment, which they are on offense.
They have everything they need, especially getting Aaron Jones this offseason.
So whatever quarterback steps in will have an easier time than maybe other places if a guy went to, let's say, Washington or the Patriots, right?
So J.J. McCarthy has skyrocketed up this draft all the way to number two in some cases, which how, I don't know.
But that leaves Drake May wide open for some reason.
So my choices are Drake May and JJ McCarthy, and I'm deciding between the two.
And then I saw JJ McCarthy throw the same ball that has landed the Jets in hot water for four years.
It's that off-foot dart from Zach Wilson, that elite throw that he made, that has put the Jets in hell.
Do not take J.J. McCarthy if that's what you're basing it off of.
If you feel like, oh, that throw's amazing, that's our guy.
The Vikings will be doomed for the next 10 years.
Well, it went on.
By the way, Chip Raheem, the new coach at the Falcons, was on McAfee right after the greatest coach in the NFL, according to James.
At the...
Actually sounded pretty good.
I had not really heard him speak in that kind of environment.
He was off the cuff.
He was really...
I mean, they can talk about cousins.
He was talking about the defense.
I was pleased to see that.
That dude will knock your block off if you come near him.
Well, I love what he said to Pat McAfee.
Pat said something about, do you know Kevin, you know, the coach of Minnesota?
And Rain just looked at him and said, yeah, we won the Super Bowl together.
And it's like, dang!
You know, it's like, McAfee, you better know your stuff a little better here.
And now he got it right there on his own show.
I think we're going to do it much more in-depth on the draft coming up.
We'll see what happens there.
I also think, Caleb, I'll just sort of let this one along, but just sort of put it out there.
Caleb Williams, if he doesn't know that he's in the spotlight, better understand that everybody's watching everything he does.
That was bold.
It's been a brutal social media a few days for Caleb Williams.
I'll just leave that there for y'all to go find as we go.
But here's the one.
Why did they...
Instead of doing what they did with a kickoff rule, why didn't they just...
If this is what you're going to do, just ban the kickoff.
Because, Chip, why else I would give up the five yards to the 30 just for the sake of knowing the six or seven yards just to keep my people from not...
If you want to keep them getting hurt, just have your kicker kick it out of the end zone every time.
Yeah.
Well, I didn't see the change.
What change did they?
I saw speculation.
Yeah, it's the XFL kickoff.
They're going to line them up at the 25, the 35, five yards apart.
The kicker's going to kick off from the 35. If it goes out of the end zone, the ball's placed on the 30. If it's in the playing field and downed, or it goes to the 20, Or caught in the end zone.
It was a 20-yard line.
But it was basically, as I told James earlier, at this point, I'm just going to have my kicker kick it through the end zone, and we're just going to start playing 30-yard football.
Yeah, and look, these kickers, I mean, they're so strong nowadays.
Their legs are so strong.
I mean, if you're kicking in the NFL, you could kick it out of the end zone, right?
Unless you're in an outdoor stadium and the wind's in your face at 10 miles an hour, it's going out of the end zone.
And look, the NFL scoring was down in the NFL last year, and that's not a trend the NFL wants to have continue.
And so what better way to do it than to give teams the ball, the 30 instead of the 25 and make them drive 75, make them drive 70 yards instead of 75.
Well, the other thing is, and James, I saw this as well, they I noticed that they were talking about this, McAfee and several other first takes and some of the others.
They did a study.
There was only one return touchdown in the XFL under this format.
Only one.
Sure, but you're also talking about the XFL. I mean, these guys are, I'm not saying they're not good athletes, but compared to the NFL, it goes both ways.
But you don't have better tacklers.
You don't have better tacklers.
Listen, if you have someone like Josh Cribbs or, I'm blanking out on the best kicker return, Devin Hester back there, there's a chance.
I hear what you guys are saying, just kick it through the end zone, 100% for sure.
But 25 to 30 is a bit of a difference, right?
Just a bit.
I'm not saying it's crazy, but it is a bit of a difference.
Now we're going to money ball.
I'm just saying yes, but I think you're going to be surprised at how many returns there are this year.
Not full returns, I'm just saying guys will actually take it.
It does bring strategy into the play a little more.
At the very least, it doesn't give us what we had last year.
I think that's all I'm thinking.
I think you can go either way.
I think y'all are right.
I think you can go either way.
I think you're either going to go one or the other.
Okay?
They're going to play the strategy move.
They're going to let the people run the kickoffs back.
But if you're really honestly going to let...
Because if they break through that front line, you've got a kicker.
Yeah, which is hilarious.
Putting the kicker on an island is so funny.
Yeah, that won't be fun at all.
And McAfee, I mean, McAfee could actually come back into the league now because he used to tackle.
So, I mean, it's a whole different issue.
But you've got one.
So, I think...
I'm not sure you'll actually have it.
I think it's going to go back still the other way.
But I've got a point for you.
Here's what I think you could do.
If you wanted to up the scoring and you wanted to make kickers even more valuable and you wanted to take it to a position, let a kickoff that goes through the uprights count for one point or two and then give the ball at the 30-yard line to the other team.
I would love that rule, but it would never happen because dudes do it too often.
It would be the number one thing guys would do because there's no harm in it.
And then you'd never get a kickoff again.
Because I would be shooting that thing through the uprights all day.
On a tee?
These guys live off the tee.
They would send it into the stands.
Also, could you imagine?
Who's the punter?
Is Harrison Buck here a punter?
I think it is.
He's just standing back there and Tyreek Hill's coming full speed at him and it's just one-on-one.
I love it.
He runs after him.
Tyreek Hill literally snaps his ankles when he turns on him.
I'm looking forward to it.
Did you guys see Tyreek Hill, the highlights of him playing against the best French football players?
Did you see this?
He was running routes against a French-American football team.
If the NFL, when the NFL is in the Olympics, it's going to be a bloodbath.
It's going to be so fun.
Oh, yeah.
Anyway, continue.
I'm sorry.
You guys got to watch it.
The flag football stuff.
All right.
A lot going on here.
We got Easter coming up this weekend.
I hope all of you have a good Easter, maybe family coming in.
I know we got the part of mine coming in as we go this weekend.
Before we make a last round, any big predictions, Chip, or last word?
Oh, wow.
Big predictions are last word.
I predict that there are going to be a lot of Major League Baseball games rained out the first week of the season.
Mother Nature will be the big winner in the Major League Baseball's first week of the Major League Baseball season.
All right, James.
We didn't talk college basketball, but the men's and women's tournament is about to really heat up.
So tune in this weekend because it's going to be a lot of good games.
And Caitlin Clark and Paige Becker is better meat because that's all I want.
I know that's going to be incredible.
Well, okay, as the show host, I'm going to take a personal privilege here, especially on your last one.
The best video of the week was Caitlin Clark and her dad.
Yes!
I mean, I represent that dad so much.
Chip, how many times have you told your boys?
Oh, yeah.
Shut up!
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay, all right.
Quick story.
I used to coach Little League, coach football, everything.
And I had this one kid.
It just shows you how much the NFL and video have influence on kids.
We threw a pass.
The pass was nowhere close.
Our kid gets hit.
And the first thing he does, I mean, this is an eight-year-old.
He jumps up doing this.
Yeah.
And his dad, his dad was one of my assistant coaches.
his dad yells at him.
I got that.
Get that thot of life.
They see it on TV.
That's what it is.
All right, but there's my one.
James, you brought it in.
I had to bring it.
One day, we won't do it now.
We'll have to talk about me getting thrown out of a basketball game for taunting the other team's coach.
We'll get into that one day.
But also, before we go, did you see Caitlin Clark got offered $5 million to be in the Big 3 by Ice Cube?
Do it.
Gotta do it.
Alright, here's my last word.
The great thing about this country is that we have two times of the year in which they actually put out good candy.
During the Easter season, it is the robin eggs by Whoppers.
During the fall season, it is candy corn.
Life is good.
All is good.
Folks, that's it for James Schiff and I here on Doug Collins Friday's Finest.
Go out and have a blessed weekend.
We will talk to you soon.
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