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Nov. 2, 2023 - Doug Collins Podcast
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As the war rages Hamas terrorist want you to believe they are the victims
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Georgia GOP Congressman Doug Collins.
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The greatest thing I have ever heard in my whole life.
I could not believe my ears.
In this house, wherever the rules are disregarded, chaos and mob rule.
It has been said today, where is bravery?
I'll tell you where bravery is found and courage is found.
It's found in this minority who has lived through the last year of nothing but rules being broken, people being put down, questions not being answered, and this majority say, be damned with anything else.
We're going to impeach and do whatever we want to do.
Why?
Because we won an election.
I guarantee you, one day you'll be back in the minority and it ain't gonna be that fun.
Hey everybody, welcome back to the Doug Collins Podcast.
Glad to have you with us here on this midweek edition, Wednesday edition.
Glad to catch up with you.
It's been a lot going on in the world.
I want to catch back up with you.
I've been traveling.
I was in New York.
Thanks for all the texts and quotes for seeing when we were up there on Fox and Newsmax and doing a lot of shows.
Always fun to be out there with the ladies of Outnumbered and also with Maria Bartiromo, of course, always with the The first lady of business, really, and news for so many of us.
Newsmax folks, great.
American Agenda.
Again, we've got some great folks up here that I'm glad to go with.
It also opens up a lot of what's going on that I want to bring to you today concerning This Israel issue, the war with Gaza, also what's going on with Capitol Hill.
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Alright, we're back.
Let's just start off right now with some amazing stuff, and it's been showing up on my social media a little bit, too.
The pro-Hamas folks are unhinged.
They are just, at this point, the terrorist supporters who support Hamas going across the border, slitting pregnant women's bellies, taking the baby out, stabbing the baby, shooting the mother in the head, Putting literally children in ovens, cutting off heads.
Now folks, let me just be very honest.
If you're supporting the Hamas group right now, that's what you're supporting.
Let's just be honest.
Now I don't want to, and some of you on social media try to get into this, well, it's been Israel's oppressing us and they're oppressors and they do it.
No, no, no, no.
History and facts do not line up with the narrative of this.
Now, we can all have a conversation about the fact that Palestinians were displaced, that Israel is a state.
I think that ship sort of sailed about 60 years ago.
But understanding that if you look around, there are Palestinians who live in Israel.
There are Palestinians who live in Israel as Israeli citizens, and they get along fine.
This is not an easy situation.
I will never make it out to be.
I will never make myself out to be an expert in the feelings of Israelis or Palestinians or others in that part of the world.
But the way that you solve this is not through the violent butchering of people on an early Saturday morning while they're at a concert going or they're in their beds.
OK, let's just be blunt about this.
Now, you can whine, gripe, moan, complain.
I don't care.
OK, that is not the way you handle this.
And then to say there's a moral equivalency, well, now Israelis are killing Hamas.
Hamas is the dictatorial leaders of Gaza.
Their leaders, by the way, live in luxury down in Qatar while their people suffer through their idiocy of terrorism.
And now they take their terrorists and put them in with civilians.
They put them under hospitals, under mosques.
And, you know, after Israel says, get out of there, move away from these areas, they're still doing it.
So if you want to continue to support the terrorists of Hamas, then keep it up.
But you're losing the understanding of the world when we're seeing this anti-Semitic rise across the world.
We're seeing Jews flying into Russia and they're being hunted by mobs that are saying, we want to kill with knives and shoot Jews.
That's what they're asking to do.
That's what they were looking to do in that airport.
This is what we're saying.
And then you turn it on to the United States in which you have college campuses in which Jewish students are holed up in libraries by pro-Palestinian...
I'm going to rephrase this.
Palestinian people have a lot of problems and a lot of issues, some of which are their leadership that they voted for in Hamas and have not gotten rid of.
But the Palestinian people who are not involved in terrorist activities are innocent in this.
And I'll say that, you know, they're trying to get by and do life in the best way they can.
And you have the terroristic leaders who are leading them into this suicidal kind of path by continuing to lob, you know, mortars across and bombs and rockets across Israel all the time.
Let's never forget that.
These are the supporters of Hamas, that's what we're dealing with here, because I've heard some in the protesters around this country say, well, whatever means necessary was okay with us because Israel was bad.
Okay, no, Israel does not go across into Gaza, slit throats, to go in bed, they don't do that, period.
Okay?
Do they respond when they are attacked?
Yes, just like you do.
Okay?
When I see this on college campus, when you see this around here and you see what is going on and the concern of this issue spreading, this is where we need to be the most concerned.
Now, again, let's go back a month, which has been almost a month.
Let's go back a month.
Let me ask a question to all you out there who are supporting the Hamas terrorists.
And you're marching in the streets and you're doing all this in support of whatever they did to, quote, further the Palestinian cause, which it does not.
Who are lobbying mortars over the border and rockets over the border all the time?
I'll wait for an answer that's not Hamas or Hezbollah or the Houthis from Yemen when they wanted to get involved or the other airline military groups.
I don't see Israel just randomly firing into Gaza, the West Bank, or Lebanon.
I don't see reports, which by the way would have made worldwide headlines, of, you know, Israel saying, you know, I'm bored today.
Let's just shoot indiscriminate rockets into Gaza City.
I'm waiting.
Still waiting.
Doesn't happen.
Every day, though, through tunnels in which they spit humanitarian money and took water pipes.
Hamas took water pipes.
Again, as you hear about this, we don't have enough water.
Hamas took the water pipes bought by humanitarian aid and cut them up into homemade bombs and missiles.
Okay, you talk about this as if this is a legitimate government in a sense that it takes care of its people.
It does not.
They use everything they get.
They hoarded gasoline.
They hoarded all these other supplies, knowing that they were going to launch this attack on Israel.
Now look, we can have discussions about how we find peace.
I think the first step of peace would be to, number one, acknowledge which the Hamas charter does not.
The Hamas charter says we're going to do this to annihilate the Jews, period.
Sounds familiar if you go back in history.
If any of you want to read it, go back and read it.
Okay?
Nowhere in there in the charter of Israel is there a let's go wipe out the Palestinians because we just want to annihilate them.
That's not there.
Again, it's hard to understand.
Do I want to see war?
No, I do not.
Do I want to see the bloodshed of innocent people who are caught up because of idiots?
No, I do not.
But there also has to be an understanding of what's really happening here.
And what's really happening here is before this war ever started, before this activity began, Israel and its citizens were living with the daily threat of Hamas and terrorists lobbing missiles and mortars over the border every day by people who did not even recognize their inherent right to exist.
And we're not talking about just replacing the Israeli government with the Palestinian government.
We're talking about wiping the Jewish people off the map completely.
Again, read your history.
So, as we go through this, on this Wednesday, they're continuing the incursion into Gaza.
And again, you're having even American reporting on CBS and others calling it an invasion.
Okay?
Again, historically, did we invade Germany?
Did we invade Japan?
I mean, after you're being attacked, this is a confrontational war in which you're moving in to stop and to destroy those who sought to destroy you in an unprovoked, unmitigated, brutal attack on your own citizens.
Now, again, has there been casualties of civilians in this?
Yes.
But at what point is it okay for the Hamas terrorists to say, I'm going to stand behind women, cowardly, under hospitals, and say, you can't shoot me.
You can't come after me.
You can't come arrest me.
At what point in the world is this even allowable?
But this is what we're seeing.
As we move forward here, the concern becomes a bigger threat.
The bigger threats are becoming is what will Iran in this do.
And why do I say Iran?
Because Iran is funding all this.
And for all the Biden administration's, you know, grand plans, which we could go into it probably at another podcast about how Iran has been empowered during the Biden administration with money, given the choices that the Biden administration made on energy.
This is something that you have to understand as Iran a few years ago under the Trump administration and even a little bit before was suffering because of the sanctions and others that they were under.
Now they're, again, flush with cash.
And again, the 6B, and it was promised, which is never, it's not going to go there now, It was just an indication that the Biden administration does not take in many ways what many people consider seriously the threat that Iran is a terrorist rogue nation that is something for us to be concerned about.
And when you're not concerned about a rogue nation, when you're not concerned about a terrorist nation, it has multi-level consequences that show up in things like this.
So, when I say expand, you know, Iran, they have already allowed...
And I mean this sincerely, they have allowed these Iran-affiliated military groups to attack U.S. bases.
You don't hear a lot about that in many of our news outlets here in the United States.
They've attacked publicly reported multiple targets.
We've attacked back once.
Again, these people do not understand anything but power and threats.
They do not understand negotiation.
They do not understand don't do that again.
They understand that if I send a squad in there to terrorize or to send rockets into an American base, the only thing they understand is my friends didn't come home because the Americans killed them.
That's the only thing they understand.
And they realize that, okay, if I do this, that's the same thing that's going to happen to me.
Many of them don't care because they want to be martyrs and they believe that it's a benefit to them in the afterlife.
For those of us who believe differently, go right ahead.
Okay?
This is something the Biden administration has got to deal with.
I think it's going to be more forceful because we're seeing Syria already being agitated up.
We're seeing the issues in Lebanon.
Again, it comes down to will Iran actually let Hezbollah loose?
Will they actually let some of these more militant Houthis and others from Yemen and others go after it?
Even further, Saudi Arabia caught in this as well, having to deal with these forces around the side.
Remember, there's a lot of people who believe that Saudi Arabia and other Muslim countries were getting closer to an agreement with Israel for a more peaceful solution, shockingly.
Now, think about this, a more peaceful arrangement in the Middle East is when this attack took place, because Saudi and Iran have absolutely different versions of how the world fits.
Now, I don't agree with Saudi Arabia on many of their human rights policies, almost any, and the way they treat women and the way they treat others.
But at the same point in time, again, they also are not looking to expand the Saudi empire outside its current borders.
They're not funding the areas like Iran is in these kind of situations.
Again, the actors here are not pleasant to be with, but the actors in this area are the reality, and you have to determine which of the realities is better for you and your country.
country.
Again, much deeper topic to go into, but my concern is if the Hezbollah, which everybody is watching, who has said that they will proportionally respond to what's going on in Gaza, if they come across the northern border, that's going to expand this war.
We have more and more indications from the White House that America's role in this is expanding, and again, without sometimes a clear definition of what that actually means.
All this to say is over the next few weeks until this operation from Israel is over, depending on how much of the terrorist organization they're able to take out, we will see the determination of what is going to happen In the southern border, and if there is a chance to go back to some stability in the region.
How did that affect us here in the United States?
Here today on Wednesday, the House of Representatives comes back in.
We're experiencing the first week of, full week of Speaker Johnson, Mike Johnson's speakership.
He has put forward an interesting proposal.
Again, I think he is making himself show differently on how he would handle some of the funding measures, an Israel funding measure of $14 billion.
He has chose to offset that with IRS money out of the Inflation Reduction Act, which, by the way, never reduced inflation.
Just a side note there.
As we look at this, This, again, made the bill immediately a non-bipartisan bill, which it could have been.
I get it.
I get that since you're wanting to do this and you're trying to appease the folks in the conference who don't want to spend any more money, that's not offset, and that is all understandable.
The question would be, though, is if you have a bigger issue with Ukraine, which the Ukraine spending is going to come up here at some point, we'll see how this plays out.
The question would have been if you could have forged an Israel bill that was either more palatable in its pay-for to the Democrats or was, as they do all the time, and folks, this happens all the time.
It's a non-pay-for at this point.
Use the pay-for.
Find it later in the budgets as you go forward.
You could have gotten 350-plus votes in the United States House, both Republicans and Democrats, sent it over to the Senate.
The Senate would have been in an interesting position then.
If they see such a strong vote coming out of the House on Israel only, then Schumer and McConnell would have a situation in which McConnell would lose Republican support.
Probably Schumer would lose Democratic support for a continuation of putting everything together.
For the Ukraine support, which many of us have seen now over the almost two years of this war, there is no plan from the Biden administration except continually giving money.
We'll see which way it plays out.
The House coming back in today, they will vote probably tomorrow or Friday on this Israel package.
We'll see what the vote looks like.
Right now they are losing.
It's going to have to be a mix of votes because right now the Republicans, and I've said this many times before, the majority is the one that determines the votes here.
They've already had a couple of folks go on record saying that they're not going to vote for this bill, which means there could be more, which means the Speaker can't lose, and we go back to this whole number again, can't lose before.
And if you don't have any Democrats step up and vote for this bill, then this bill's not going to get out of the House.
That would be a major defeat for the new Speaker if he can't get this bill out of the House.
Hopefully they will come together to avoid that being the first major issue coming out of the House since the new Speakership that they could actually find the 200 and whatever votes to get there.
It's going to be interesting this week here.
Here's a little tidbit information that you may not be following.
This was supposed to be an off week for most in...
I think actually the next two weeks are supposed to be off for the house.
And there were plans made.
There were trips planned.
There were other things made that members, again, just like you and I, you know, have done.
And they're looking at an attendance problem this week.
In other words, members are not going to be in town.
Some are on Codell.
Some are, you know, back in the district.
Some have planned, you know, personal events, weddings, and other things that they've got to get to.
So it's going to be interesting to see what the actual number is for the The votes as we go forward, but it's not going to be a full House.
Everybody is saying that there's going to be some attendance issues.
We'll see which one brings the most to the table, Democrats or Republicans in this.
And that could affect, hopefully not though, but it could affect at least the number of what it takes to pass.
And that could end up maybe helping the Speaker in this regard, if there's enough Republicans and all to come back for these votes.
This is just the beginning.
You're not seeing, I don't think we've actually, I think that we're trying to schedule an appropriations bill this week.
Not sure we're going to see one of those coming forward.
But these are the kind of things right now that the speakers have to deal with, the world's having to deal with, Biden's having to deal with.
And again, it's very unsettling time.
So the things I want you to work out and look out for, if you've listened here to the podcast many times, here's some takeaways.
Takeaways is number one, don't buy the argument that You know, the left is starting to turn as this will get, you know, messier in Gaza, that there'll be more pressure to be put on Israel to get out.
They have went in to take out the people who simply want to kill them, annihilate them, and they send rockets.
Remember, a month before, before this invasion ever started, before the murderers ever went over, the butchers ever did what they did, they were still putting rockets and I mean, think about this.
If you're in the United States and you were living in a parallel universe, if you would, in Canada, there were people in Canada who were every day shooting mortars from Canada into Detroit.
How long do you think we'd put up with that?
If they were in Mexico and they were shooting rockets and mortars into El Paso and into Brownsville, we wouldn't put up with this.
Folks, please go look at this situation.
And look at what's been happening.
If you've not done this, please go do so.
This is an untenable situation in which there is pathway to peace, but it has to be peace, that people will live in peace and not try to, again, deny that Israel even has a right to exist, which means basically exterminating Jews in the area.
So, don't buy the hype, number one.
Then, if you're seeing these protesters across the world, this is a concern that we didn't get into as much today, but I'll touch on it on another podcast.
We don't know who's infiltrated these pro-Hamas protests across the country.
There could be Hamas terrorists in it.
There could be those who are agitating this.
We don't know why, because we don't know who's been coming across our borders.
We have over 2 million gotaways in the last couple of years.
We don't know who's here.
And even the administration had to admit that yesterday.
Ray both had to admit, we really don't know.
Okay, which is not something new, but we really don't know.
So again, in looking at these protests, be very careful.
Number two, you know, how much further and deeper is Israel going to have to dig into Gaza to have rooted out the evil of Hamas?
We'll see how that goes.
And then keep your eye on the And the last one is the first big question.
It's a great political test for the Speaker of the House, Mike Johnson.
I wish him the best.
I mean, he's chosen a path that is probably not the easy path, but, you know, there's many who would agree with it, that you need to offset monies that you're sending to help others, even friends like Israel.
So we'll see how this big test goes.
But that's your big takeaways for the Wednesday.
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