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Jan. 17, 2025 - The Dan Bongino Show
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Trump Joins The Show To Drop Massive Truth Bombs (Ep. 2403) - 01/17/2025
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Thank you.
Ah, sorry.
I'm just getting up doing some air squats there.
You guys just saw me.
I hear this thing.
If you contract your muscles, they release these chemicals into your body and they get you going and get you moving.
So, right, guys?
You always see me doing these, do some military presses with my bad shoulders, do some fake chest flies, pec flies, some air squats before the show.
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Folks, I've got a big show for you today.
Of course, just broke before we got on the air.
The TikTok, it's not a ban.
I wish they would stop referring to it as that.
The law against TikTok having foreign ownership was upheld by the Supreme Court.
We're going to get into that.
Also, I had President Trump on the show yesterday.
He was fantastic.
It was one of the best interviews we've had with him.
He does a number of good interviews.
But yesterday was really on point.
We covered a lot of territory.
So we're going to bring up some of that and discuss it.
Also, there's a whole bunch of rumors going around.
I haven't seen it yet from President Trump about the Secret Service director.
Of course, my name, no matter how many times I bring this up, continues to get dragged into it by anti-Trump people, by left-wing lunatics.
I don't know how many times I've got to clear the air on this.
If you just listen to my show, You wouldn't have to reach out to me for comment like a thousand media people did yesterday.
And I'm not talking about the one I actually talked to.
You know your name.
It's a she.
She's wonderful.
But I've told you this.
I don't know how many times I have to say it.
I know a lot of you are asking me for my opinion.
All right, I'll give it to you.
But I'm not going to get emotional about it because I believe in outcomes.
I'm going to tell you some things we need to happen.
If they don't happen, you can form your own opinion.
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Very nice.
Waited for the click-a-roo from the fingers.
First, let's address the story that just dropped.
I don't want to call it some bombshell because that word is, as you well know, extremely overused, way too much.
It's pretty much to be expected, but as the New York Slimes reports just now, Supreme Court backs the law requiring TikTok to be sold or banned.
I just want to clear up a couple things.
Number one, well, let me just put, let me get this out first.
I disagree with the law.
I'll explain in a second, but I owe you an opinion up front because it's an opinion show.
You guys digest that.
Folks in the chat, I genuinely want to hear your opinion.
You like this law, you hate this law, because you guys are what matters.
Let's clear something up, though.
It is not a ban.
It is not a ban.
It is not a First Amendment issue.
On its face.
The law basically says that TikTok is fine as long as it divests from its attachment to the Chinese Communist Party.
I just told you I disagree with the law.
But it's really important that we don't get emotional about it and we speak about what the law actually is.
Not what people want it to be.
Because for political reasons...
People on both sides of the aisle trying to blame everyone else because TikTok is popular and think they're going to get the youth vote.
That's what's behind us.
They're like, Donald Trump banned TikTok.
Joe Biden banned TikTok.
Chuck Schumer banned TikTok.
John Toon banned.
You see what they're doing?
It's not a ban.
They have said to the Chinese Communist Party, at least affiliated, people running TikTok, you cannot have this attachment and have this media presence in the United States.
That's what they've said.
TikTok has an amended, they've almost made the decision, if they go offline Sunday, to ban themselves.
Again, I disagree with it.
I'm just telling you what it is.
Why?
Because TikTok could sell the company.
Now, you may say, Dan, well, that's a Hobson's choice.
It's either this horse or no horse at all.
Okay, fair enough.
But it is not a de jure ban.
Maybe it's a de facto one.
I'll settle on that.
TikTok doesn't want to sell.
They're saying, we'd rather pull the thing off the market.
Well, I guess we'll see what happens on Sunday.
Again, quickly, before I move on to Secret Service and other things that were all over the news, I got a thousand phone calls last night.
I've told people, just listen to the damn show.
I promise you, I'm not going to hide anything from you, okay?
I disagree with the bill.
Why?
Because, folks, it is not a secret that the Chinese Communist Party...
Has at least some degree of attachment to TikTok.
And yes, they are absolutely using it for propaganda and to probably harvest data.
You know that.
I know that.
I use TikTok.
I use it for show prep because it's good for clips.
I am well aware of the fact that they are probably monitoring what's going on in my account.
Folks, my For You page is about Caesar, the Roman Empire.
Life hacks, cold plunges, the effects of sauna, Dr. Rhonda, Huberman.
I mean, I don't really know what they could be harvesting.
I'm on there on a separate phone.
I use that phone for show prep.
I don't know.
If you don't like it, then don't use the app.
I'm a big boy rules guy.
I'm sorry.
I mean, there's a guy on Twitter this morning, like, trashing me on, oh, there, Bungito on Rumble.
The guy's on Rumble!
You don't see me telling Chris the CEO, hey, can we get rid of this guy?
You can't be a free speech guy and not be a free speech guy.
I don't mean legal free speech.
It's not a First Amendment issue.
It's not.
I just mean, you know the rules.
You don't like TikTok?
Then get off TikTok.
All right, enough on that.
It just happened, and I want to make sure you have my thoughts on it because it's an opinion show.
Folks, I got just eaten a lot.
Last night was not a good night for me.
I slept like a champion.
I feel great today.
But I did not feel good last night.
And, you know, one of the things that I hear from you most often that creates this attachment between me and my audience is you guys say to me that often the greatest compliment in the world is, hey, Dan, the show feels authentic.
That's because it is.
Folks, I'm not going to fake it.
And if something makes me look bad, then it's my obligation to kind of talk about it honestly, even if it makes me look bad, because it's not up to me to sit here and pretend to be something I'm not.
I have said repeatedly, there are some internet rumors and some reporting by credible reporters, including Susan Crabtree, who's very well sourced, by the way, that the next director of the Secret Service is going to be Sean Curran.
I'm going to tell you in advance all the disclosures you need so you understand how I'm trying to be objective, but it's understandably hard.
Sean Curran is a good friend I've known a long time, a very long time.
We've been through a lot together.
Sean is a good and decent and kind human being.
With a ton of character and a lot of dignity.
And he's a patriot who loves his country.
That's indisputable.
Is Sean Curran the right man to be the Secret Service director?
Ladies and gentlemen, I don't know that.
I'm sorry, but you're my audience and you're looking for authenticity and I'm not going to forfeit it over a personal relationship.
Before I get to Curran and Sean Curran and my opinion on that too, I just want to say, I've said repeatedly to you, and I don't know why people keep reaching out to me.
Stop asking me this question.
I had zero input.
The first conversation I've had about this was yesterday.
That is it.
I have had zero input.
You guys impart upon that what you want.
I'm just giving you the facts.
Nobody has reached out to me about this at all.
Nobody.
You want me to sit here and tell you this?
I am like John Fund, right, fellas?
You got that John Fund piece that I'm the guy sitting there pushing the buttons of the transition team.
John Fund from National Review says that I was an integral figure in picking Pete Hegseth and Matt Gaetz.
Folks, I'm not even an integral figure in picking the Secret Service director.
I don't know what anybody's talking about.
I have almost zero relationship with anybody on the transition team at all.
I don't understand.
You get these anti-Trump people like Dan Bongino is a closet cabinet guy.
He's advising Trump.
And then you get these other people who are disappointed that I'm not more connected than I am.
That's not who I am.
I have a relationship with President Trump.
It's a good one.
Because I don't bother him.
And that's it.
But that is...
I had nothing to do with this at all.
Nobody called.
Nobody asked me anything.
Now, having said that, I will say I'm disappointed.
Not in the selection.
We'll see what happens.
I'm an outcome-based guy.
But I'm disappointed because if these four things don't happen...
With the Secret Service, which, by the way, no one's called and asked about at all.
I mean, it only involves a president's life.
I mean, why would anyone give a shit, right?
If I sound a little perturbed about that, I am, because I actually care about the president, and I told him as much yesterday.
I actually genuinely care about this guy staying alive, and I've told anybody who will listen, including him.
If he's not alive, none of this matters.
The Secret Service is grotesquely unprepared to keep this guy alive for four years.
They're not even prepared to keep the sky alive the first year.
There are four things that need to happen.
And I need you to pay very close attention.
Because is Sean going to be a good director or not?
He's a good man.
He's a great man.
Is he going to be a good director?
The answer?
Folks, I'm going to taste it with not my first pick.
It has nothing to do with his character.
Four huge things need to happen.
Number one, the Secret Service needs to dump investigations right away.
I've said it a thousand times.
I don't want to recover this segment.
You guys are bored of it.
If the Secret Service does not stop wasting over 50% of its manpower chasing counterfeit bills at a 7-Eleven at midnight rather than keeping President Trump alive, someone's going to get dead fast.
End of story.
There is no protection agency on Earth, private sector or public sector, that if they went to a CEO and said, we can't protect you today because our agents are out investigating a counterfeit bill at 7-Eleven that wouldn't be fired.
The Secret Service gets away with it because they've been lying to Congress forever.
We need to do investigations.
It makes better agents.
That is so hilariously dumb.
I'm stunned nobody in Congress has picked up on it.
What really pisses me off is I've been working with members of Congress, and you know who you are.
Many of them.
On a piece of legislation to fix this.
Is Sean going to do that?
I hope so.
I have not spoken to him about it.
Spoken to some other people.
I really hope it does happen.
Or is he going to go up there and defend investigations like every prior director, which is going to in turn lead to the next day another complaint that the Secret Service doesn't have enough manpower.
You can't have it both ways.
Either you're manpower doing other things or you don't have manpower.
Second, the DEI stuff has to go.
Is he going to fix that?
I don't know.
I choose not to get emotional about it.
Passionate, not emotional.
We're going to see.
He could be the change agent.
He could.
And if he is, believe me, all the accolades are going to be on this show.
The DEI stuff has to go.
The Secret Service has been one of the worst offenders in the federal government at promoting people because of all kinds of ridiculous characteristics.
I can't even tell you how many times I heard, well...
We need this many flankers around the presidential limo.
One has to be black, one Hispanic, one woman.
You're like, wait, what?
I thought we just wanted people to protect the president.
They are the worst offenders.
If Sean Curran is the next director, I haven't heard it from President Trump, by the way, so I'm kind of like have to apply the Bongino rule, but it's hard to because it's Friday and folks, I'm getting bombarded with questions.
I can't go the weekend without it.
Is he going to scrap this DEI crap and just start promoting people, men, women, black, white, Asian, Jewish, Christian, Muslim, according to merit, because we've got to keep this guy alive, or are we going to continue with the DEI bullshit?
That's the second thing.
Third, I told you in my congressional hearing, something I've been absolutely laser-focused on, the Secret Service is the worst government agency by far on technology.
They don't trust anything.
We used to joke, and it's not funny, but we laughed about it at the time because you had to or you'd cry.
The Secret Service's motto was yesterday's technology, tomorrow.
They were using, what is it, smartware in the 2000s.
If any of you know computers, smartware's from like the 40s or something.
Smartware.
They didn't even use smartware on like the Apollo missions.
It was so old.
They don't know what they're doing with technology.
It's because their people aren't comfortable with it, so they're afraid to get outside the box.
The Secret Service needs massive private partnerships with technology companies and others to figure out how to leverage everything from AI to satellite technology to satellite internet to geolocating to anti-drone technology to drone technology to surveillance cameras.
They are way, way behind.
I've got on good authority.
They are totally unprepared for the inauguration as well.
I've warned you about it.
Let's just hope luck strikes again.
The fourth thing.
So we got investigations, the DEI crap, the technology problem.
The fourth thing.
The Secret Service has a massive culture problem.
It has a huge culture problem.
The culture at the Secret Service of doing more with less is, one, False.
And it's been embedded into them that they should sacrifice the job to do more with less.
They don't do more with less.
They do less with more.
Their budget's increased and yet the protection is less effective.
How do we know that?
Because President Trump was almost killed twice.
Christy Noem, who is going to be the...
Boss of whoever runs the Secret Service.
I haven't heard anything official.
Again, I want to be clear.
But the rumor's out there, and I'm getting bombarded with questions, and I'm going to answer all this today.
I've given my advice.
It hasn't been taken.
I really genuinely hope, as I put on Twitter last night, from the bottom of my heart, really, that it works out.
Kristi Noem, who is going to be the DHS secretary, I don't see any problems there.
She's at our confirmation hearing.
It's actually going on right now.
It's a pretty uneventful hearing.
Again, you're free to tune in.
These hearings always kind of ding up our livestream numbers a little bit.
We lose about 5,000, 10,000 people, but that's good.
It shows people are interested in current events.
We make it up later.
This one's really kind of uneventful.
She's kind of an uncontroversial nominee.
She's not...
Kristi Noem's not going to like really light up anybody's partisan fires.
So she was there, but here's a positive sign.
Here's a very positive sign for the Secret Service.
She clearly knows the investigations thing is a problem for the Secret Service.
How do I know?
Because here's what she just said about two hours ago.
Play that cut, guys.
There's two elements really that the Secret Service is tasked with, and that is protective detail and then also investigations.
Yet we see investigators within the Secret Service out there investigating antiquities and other things that are off mission when they should be focused on making sure we're addressing national security events with the protocols that are necessary and protecting the individuals that they're charged with.
Listen, I don't know Kristi Noem particularly well, but I know her enough.
I hope she means that.
And I think she does.
There's no reason she would say it under oath at a confirmation hearing.
She was just making it up.
Whether you agree or disagree with her appointment, again, that's open for the MAGA world, who I have the deepest, we're the biggest MAGA show out there.
So you guys obviously matter to me more than anyone.
That's open for debate.
Tell me in the chat, you like her?
Someone asks, is Cash out?
No, no, Cash is FBI director.
Kristi Noem is DHS secretary.
I'm watching the chat right now.
You guys like to pick or don't is up to you.
However, it's a really good sign that at least when it comes to the Secret Service, remember, she's in charge of ICBP, FEMA. She's got a big HSI. She has a huge portfolio, hundreds of billions of dollars in money, massive amounts of personnel.
It's a big job.
But the Secret Service has to be for her, I believe, priority one.
Because if we can't keep this guy alive and fix this thing right away, and she's going to be the supervisor or the director of the Secret Service.
If she doesn't agree to get rid of investigations and work with Congress, because they're going to have to fix 18 U.S.C. 3056, they're going to have to rewrite that, then nothing's going to happen.
So there's a little bit of good news.
At least she understands the problem.
So I'm going to leave it there, folks.
I had nothing to do with it.
I gave my advice.
At this point, it doesn't appear like it was taken.
I'm happy to answer any questions.
I'm happy to provide it if you don't want it.
That's fine.
I did not get elected president.
I never ran for president.
I ran for office.
I lost.
If they wanted my political opinion in Congressional District 6 in Maryland, we would have won.
We lost.
However, you seem to like my political opinions.
God had a different path for me.
This is it.
We're the number one MAGA show out there.
The MAGA sphere is here.
It's here every single day.
There's 126,000 of you here right now.
There it is.
And if I sound a little upset about things, I just, I promise you, I only have the boss's well-being in mind.
That is it.
Nothing else.
Okay?
That's probably the hardest segment I've ever done.
Because I realize that a lot of people aren't going to be happy, and then left-wingers will love that, because I'm acknowledging what they've wanted to hear the whole time.
You have, lefties.
You hate my guts.
You want to hear, oh my gosh, he gave his advice and they ignored him.
There you go.
Let's just hope and pray that these changes happen.
And then maybe, it's just hard to talk about because there's so much at stake.
All right, I got a lot coming up, including President Trump, who was nice enough to come on the radio show yesterday and spend about 15, 17 minutes with us.
Wide-ranging interview covered the drones, covered the not-so-smooth transition, covered also the January 6th.
That answer kind of lit up the internet yesterday.
It's fascinating how many news outlets refuse to cover it because it's the Dan Bongino Show.
Don't worry, guys.
That's why you're no longer the news, and we are.
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So let's get to this.
We broke so many news stories yesterday.
President Trump, deeply appreciate him coming on.
Thank you to Margo and Dan Scavino and the rest of his team who facilitated the interview yesterday.
It's one of his first.
I think he did Hugh Hewitt and another interview since he's been elected, and we appreciate it.
I asked him yesterday about the transition, how Joe Biden is throwing every obstacle in his way.
Folks, I've told you about what Joe Biden did with Cuba.
Pulling them off the state sponsor list.
Joe Biden shoveling money out the door to hurt Donald Trump's GDP numbers and to pay off lobbyists.
Joe Biden yesterday putting out new Title IX NIL things that's going to screw up all the college sports.
Folks, I don't have time to go over all the things this guy's doing out the door.
I'm just telling you, you can expect more damage over the weekend.
This guy has a few more days to F your life up, and he's going to take it.
If you like college sports, he screwed up the whole NIL system yesterday.
He basically said, you gotta give the same amount of money to men and female athletes.
Really?
So you're telling me that the center, the Cooper flag guy for Duke, who's one of the best basketball players in the country, should get the same money as Hannah Jones, who's a rower on the team?
I mean, this is what they do.
All out the door, this is all gonna have to be unscrewed now.
I asked President Trump about the smooth transition bullshit narrative.
He was all over it.
Check this out.
Mr. President, this is not a smooth transition.
He's trying to hurt you as you get into office.
There's no doubt about that.
It's 100% right, and it started right from the beginning, and it's a disgrace what's happening.
And if you take a look, 635,000 acres, you know what that is?
It's half the ocean.
Take a look at it.
He took it off.
It's probably $60 trillion worth of value.
That's more than double the debt that we own.
And he takes it off the value, just writes it off.
It's like you write it off.
But we're going to be redoing these things as soon as I get in.
And literally on the day that I get in, we're going to be having executive orders that's going to reverse most of it.
And whatever we can't reverse, we're going to court.
We're going to win them all in court very easily, quickly.
Good, good, good.
That's great to hear.
But he's making the transition absolutely difficult.
He's making everything so difficult.
He's been a terrible president.
I read your statements every week where you go, the worst president in the history of our country.
And he really is.
He's the worst president in the history of the country.
And he's always talking about a smooth transition.
And then he goes out and wipes out 635 million.
Think of it.
635 million acres.
635 million acres.
Just a small amount of property.
You know, I went on to tell him.
During that interview that, you know, it doesn't even take a real estate guy to figure all of this out.
Biden walking out the doors trying to burn the place to the ground first.
Folks, that's what Joe Biden does.
And I just want to warn you.
I want to warn you on a Friday.
And I know it's Friday.
Enjoy yourselves during the weekend.
Enjoy your family.
My other daughter, Amelia, her birthday is tomorrow the 18th.
She's going to be 13, a teenager, so we're all going to have a good time.
I'm just telling you, Joe Biden is going to do more stuff over the weekend.
You can expect to see some EPA stuff.
And yes, can Donald Trump overturn this stuff?
The problem is, and I want you to listen to this clip coming up next, the left understands this one thing better than anyone.
Ladies and gentlemen, process is punishment.
The left gets that better than anyone.
If they can create a laborious process for President Trump, the way he's going to spend six months.
Trying to undo Biden's stuff.
Then, ladies and gentlemen, it's six months he can't spend doing his own stuff.
The great Mike Benz put this clip out.
This is a really powerful clip.
I want you to watch it.
It's not Benz.
It's another commentator.
It's about exactly what Biden's doing right now.
I see a bunch of commentators who have this all wrong.
This guy nails it.
They're like, oh, don't worry.
Donald Trump's going to come in office and overturn this stuff.
Yes, you are 100% correct.
The problem is it's going to eat up all of our time.
Biden is burning the house down on the way out.
Listen to this.
The process is punishment.
This explains it perfectly.
Check this out.
...represent Musk, and he's come out and said, oh, it's a ticky-tack lawsuit.
It shows they don't have anything against them and whatever.
But the reason that you would want to file this suit is the same reason that Joe Biden is continuing to pass laws to try to Trump-proof democracy.
The more Joe Biden does in the waning days of his administration through administrative agencies like SEC. And stacks it up in front of Donald Trump.
The more Donald Trump has to undo.
The more Joe Biden does, the more Donald Trump has to undo.
And eventually, in that curve of resources, political capital, and time, Donald Trump's going to run short.
There's only so much he can do on day one or day 100 in his administration.
And many of the things that Joe Biden has done, for instance, are Trump-proof.
It's going to be very difficult for him to reverse 330 million acres being put into a wilderness preserve so it can't be drilled for oil or gas based on the way that law is written.
Very smart.
It's going to be very hard for Donald Trump immediately to undo giving people temporary protective status as immigrants.
And it's going to be very hard for him to kill lawsuits like the one.
It will happen.
The new SEC chair will withdraw this.
But we want Trump to expend scarce political capital and look the American people in the eye and say, well, I took that lawsuit away.
I gave Musk a free ride, even though he's going to be the head of my Department of Government Efficiency.
The show Conflicted Ethics.
It helps in our politics to see Donald Trump have to make actual moves on a chessboard, all for the public to see.
And that's why...
I know that clip is long, but I want you to digest and tattoo on your brain every single second of what that gentleman just said.
He's 100% correct.
Everything Biden is doing out the door is designed to F you at the drive-thru.
Leo Getz style.
None of this is done because Biden cares about the country.
Biden hates the country.
Biden hates you.
He hates himself.
He hates his family.
Biden walking out the door is taking out his internal rage at his...
What does he have?
Small syndrome?
I don't know.
He's taking his rage out on you.
He doesn't care about college sports.
Offshore drilling, the economy, your wallet, your job.
Biden cares about burning the country down.
He's pissed off that his party hates him.
He's pissed off he's leaving office.
The most discredited, unpopular president in American history.
He's pissed off he's leaving office under a cloud of suspicion about his ties to China.
He's pissed off he had to pardon his son because his son was involved in a whole bunch of crimes he was being investigated.
He's pissed off because he's a lying, plagiarizing, kid-sniffing loser.
So as he walks out the door, he's burning the place to the ground.
The Elon Musk thing.
Folks, I met Elon Musk for 10 seconds in a green room at the UFC. I have no relationship to Elon Musk whatsoever.
What's happening to Elon Musk is only because Elon Musk did not kiss Joe Biden's ass like the monarch he thinks he is.
Here's Elon Musk, by the way, in a clip you may have missed.
The Biden administration is suing him.
This case and all of the surroundings about it, most of this has already been litigated.
He's only suing him so Donald Trump can pull the SEC off the case so the media has a little nugget story to go with.
Listen to Elon and what happened to him with this guy being targeted because he didn't kiss the Democrats' asses.
Sounds like a tyranny, doesn't it?
Check this out.
I did actually have the funding secured, and there was a big trial in San Francisco, a big civil trial, and the jury found me not guilty.
Unanimous finding of a San Francisco jury.
The reason I agreed to the fine for the SEC is not because the SEC was correct.
That was extremely bad behavior by the SEC. Corruption, frankly.
But if I did not agree to pay the fine, Tesla would have gone bankrupt immediately.
So I was told by our CFO that the banks would immediately suspend our lines of credit.
And if they suspend our lines of credit at that time, we would have gone bankrupt instantly.
So there would never have been an opportunity for a trial because Tesla would be dead.
So really, this is like someone holding a gun to your kid's head and saying, pay $20 million.
This is like a hostage negotiation.
A hostage negotiation is exactly what's going on right now.
That's how big, deep state liberal governors, people involved in government, excuse me, work.
They use the government as a tool to kick you right in the balls.
And you better spread them.
If you don't, they're going to throw your ass in jail.
There are still a few days left, folks.
I want you to be very cautious.
That's why they're freaking out, by the way, about Kash Patel and others coming in.
By the way, I'm watching simultaneously the Rumble chat.
Thank you guys for all your nice comments, by the way.
I love you guys.
Sorry, I got off the mic.
Who says that?
Disgraceful.
Scarrow2001, you're absolutely correct.
It is disgraceful.
But what do I always tell you?
Measure the effectiveness or damage of a policy by your enemy's response.
If your enemies don't really care, then it's probably an ineffective policy because they're not paying attention.
If your enemies lose their minds, folks, it's usually a sign you're doing something right.
I want you to go to Twitter.
Do me a favor.
X, whatever it is right now.
X. Put in my last name.
Watch all of the deep state accounts I've been telling you about.
They're lefties.
They disguise themselves anonymously under different kind of names.
I'm telling you they're deep state lefties.
They're ecstatic.
They're ecstatic that my advice on presidential protection was at least ignored.
They're ecstatic about it.
You have to ask yourself.
These deep state accounts that hide.
They're 100% deep staters.
I promise you, you are being fucked over.
You have to ask yourself, why are they so happy about that?
Why?
I'm never wrong.
That's why this show's number one.
Every day.
Well, I take that back.
Yesterday, we were number two.
But we've been number one every other day this week.
Live stream.
So, we're the maggots for you.
We lost to some, what was it?
Subathons.
What are subathons?
They're always like a big deal.
These people, they do these big 24-hour streams and they get subscriptions and stuff.
Maybe I should do that some.
Should we do a subathon, Guy?
What do you think?
That'd be a pretty cool idea.
What do you guys think in the chat?
We should do a subathon.
Was it Kai or Speed did one?
That would, right?
They had like 300,000 people on a live.
It's crazy.
That's a big number, man.
We had 500,000.
That was election night.
All right, quick break.
I'm going to get back to the show.
I'm going to show you a clip.
Guy insists if we don't play this clip that I'm not allowed to do a show with him ever again.
I don't want to lose the guy.
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Folks, panic is breaking out everywhere.
Breaking out everywhere over the appointment of Kash Patel, Pam Bondi, Kristi Noem, and others, because they know Donald Trump is here for shock and awe.
I actually asked him about it in yesterday's interview.
By the way, the interview, if you want to watch the whole thing, it's at rumble.com slash Bongino Clips.
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I don't know if you know that.
That's where you can find the full interview.
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That's separate from my Bongino channel, if you want to watch the whole thing.
But I asked President Trump about shock and awe.
Folks, they are really terrified here.
Kash Patel seems to have them particularly freaked out.
I think he's an exceptional pick for FBI director.
His hearing is going to be electric, and we're going to keep our eye on that when it happens.
They seem really scared about Kash Patel.
Why am I bringing it up?
Kristi Noem's up there today and others.
Because they keep asking everyone about Kash Patel, even though it's not even his hearing.
Watch Danang Dick Blumenthal claims he served in Vietnam when he didn't.
He seems obsessed with this guy.
Check this out.
Going back to Cash Patel, someone who, if he were the FBI director, would obviously work under her.
I'm curious, your thoughts about that, your thoughts about Cash Patel and your concerns and why you wrote this letter.
The reason for the letter, and thank you for having me to talk about it, is very simply to make my colleagues more aware of some of the really extremist views that he's expressed, his adherence to QAnon, his embrace of conspiracy theories, his statement that government undercover agents instigated and incited the January 6th insurrection, and maybe most important, his determination.
To go after enemies, that is, political opponents, judges, media, lawyers, who he regards as advocates of opposing political beings.
Folks, I can't...
The rules of the show do not change, okay?
Always measure the effectiveness of a pick, a piece of legislation, or anything else by the reaction of your enemies.
Why is Da Nang Dick...
They've got Pam Bondi, Kristi Noem.
They had Sean Duffy there the other day, Russ Vogt.
They had Scott Bess in the Treasury.
Why are they talking about Kash Patel every day?
It should tell you, my gosh, Kash Patel is probably the biggest threat to the deep state.
Because he is!
That's why they're freaked out.
They're freaked out because they know consequences are coming.
One guy who's impressed me a lot, I've known this guy a long time from Florida Politics, Mike Walls, former Green Beret.
He's going to be Trump's incoming National Security Advisor.
You know, the record in Congress is always going to be outcomes I'll disagree with.
However, he's saying all the right things since this potential appointment.
Well, he is the appointed National Security Advisor.
He just hasn't taken office yet.
Mike Waltz teases consequences for former Intel officials who signed that ridiculous Hunter Biden laptop disinformation letter.
I hope so.
I hope there's a full investigation as to how these people were misled, air quotes, important air quotes, into believing Hunter Biden's laptop.
It was some kind of Russian operation.
You get the air quotes there?
Who told them that?
They didn't really believe it, but who told them that?
I want to see that information.
You know what?
Let's get to this Tim Pool because I don't want to miss this.
He'll lose his mind.
I can't have this guy melting down.
He'll start quoting Star Wars.
We'll get into a Rogue One fight again.
It'll blow up in the chat.
The show will get completely distracted and fall off track.
Folks, the gaslighting is about to come to an end.
Google just pledged, like, Facebook will see what happens.
You don't throw the Axios thing up first, if you would.
To dumping fact-checking.
Now, Google I trust even less than Facebook and other companies.
I am still banned from YouTube.
I will not be back on YouTube.
I'm on Rumble.
However, I am banned for telling you masks don't work, which they don't.
So, Google says they won't add fact-checks despite this new EU law.
I trust Google even less.
They're all kissing Donald Trump's ass right now, all these people.
But the gaslighting is about to end, and fake fact-checking was a big portion of it.
The reason you don't know about COVID, some people out there who are just having their eyes open today, is because people like me are trying to warn you about the vaccine, its pseudo-preventative measures, and masks not working as a prophylactic device.
The reason people don't know about it is because people like me were banned.
You can go look that up.
Dan Bongino banned from YouTube.
I'm not making it up.
You can go look for my official channel on YouTube.
You'll notice it's not there.
And it's not there because people were gaslit, right?
Because of fact checkers.
The gaslighting effect is so powerful that when you see someone...
What's the reverse of gaslighting?
Like un-gaslighting?
I don't know.
When you see someone wake up from the stupor, like clockwork orange, eye-opener style...
It is just a marvel to behold.
And you can't believe they believed bullshit.
So this King of Poker guy was on, very popular guy apparently.
I don't follow poker too much.
I play blackjack and I'm not very good at it.
I'm certainly not the King of Blackjack.
Was on Tim Pool's show, an excellent program.
And he's talking about the first time he found out that the fine people hoax was in fact completely made up.
And it's stunning because all you had to do was go and watch the speech, which he finally decided to do.
This is what it looks like when you're un-gaslit.
Check this out.
I was a believer that he said, you know, Nazis are fine people, okay?
And I believed that for a very long time.
Embarrassed to say so.
Then someone says, did you watch the video?
I said, yeah.
No, the whole video.
Oh.
I never saw the whole video.
It was never on my, you know, my news channels.
Then I watched it and he said, wait a minute.
Literally after he says that, he says, I'm not talking about white supremacists or neonatists.
And I'm like, well, what else am I, what else has he done?
Then the bloodbath thing, he's talking about the auto industry, clearly a financial term, bloodbath.
And they twist that into saying that, you know, there's going to be civil unrest.
So like when you do that, you lose the people, you lose people like me.
In trusting your narratives and what you say, when you say that when Trump's assassination attempt, you know, on CNN says Trump fell at a rally.
When you finally watched that video, how soon did you find yourself an encounter with another believer that you were trying to convince?
Well, I remember showing it to my wife, right?
Because she'd never seen it either.
And, you know, she's obviously, you know, been a liberal minded person her whole life.
When she saw it, you know, at first, it's like, you have to listen to it twice.
Because you're like, wait a minute.
No, no, no, no, no.
They really did every single media outlet for all these years and continued.
I was very disappointed, frankly, when Obama on the campaign trail was repeating that same fight.
I was so disappointed.
I thought, like...
You see why Guy loves this clip?
Isn't it a marvel to behold?
When ScrewTube, Google, Facebook, and all these left-wing platforms run by communists stop censoring the truth from people that amazingly they go out and find it?
I know a lot of you in the chat are laughing like, you believe the fine people hoax?
You just ought to watch the speech.
I completely condemn the white supremacist.
I mean, he says it.
But folks, listen, I am obviously not apologizing for anyone.
I don't even know if I should say, because I know someone's going to misinterpret this, but it's fine.
I've got to say it anyway.
I'm not apologizing for anyone.
I'm simply telling you something I've said often.
People have really busy lives.
Lefties, righties, commies, Tea Party people.
They do.
They go to Twitter or Facebook or whatever it is, and they read the first thing they see.
They don't even click on it.
Trump talks about white supremacists.
That's it.
I'm not apologizing for them.
I'm not telling you it's right.
It's your obligation to do your homework.
The hard reality is most people don't.
And when you hide information, that's what you get.
And then when you unhide it, all of a sudden people are like, holy shit, I've been red-pilled.
It's like we've been telling you the entire time.
You want to know the next massive red pill coming?
Ladies and gentlemen, January 6th.
We can all watch the videos.
We all know what happened.
But the strangest thing about January 6th is we still don't have answers about the scaffold erected to hang people.
Who exactly put that up there?
We have no answers as to why the doors were seemingly opened and people were welcomed in.
We have no answers as to how many feds were in the crowd, despite me telling you there were feds in the crowd who showed me pictures of them in the crowd working.
We have no answers on the January 6th pipe bomber, who he was, despite the FBI, all the evidence points to the fact they know who he is right now.
This is the next massive red pill.
So President Trump, again, was nice enough to come on the show yesterday.
And for those of you who missed it, did you guys like this question or not?
This was for you.
You wanted some answers?
He was happy to give them to you.
Check this out.
The identity of the infamous January 6th pipe bomber.
It seems bizarre to me that the FBI continues to manipulate the American public about this case.
Can we get an answer between you, Pam Bondi, and hopefully Kash Patel on who this person is and have the FBI open the books?
Because I believe this is a huge scandal and a massive cover up.
I think we will, and I think we're going to find out about Ray Epps, and I think we're going to find out about Scaffold Man.
You know who Scaffold Man is, right?
The guy who's screaming to everybody, go into the building, go into the building.
We're going to find out who Scaffold Man is, and we're going to find out some other things.
And I think you're going to be very happy with what I do with respect.
I call them the J6 hostages because I consider them hostages.
You know, they did a beautiful song, and they asked, would I do the...
The words.
The words.
Not the singing.
The words.
And I did.
That song went to number one for so long.
It was beating out Taylor Swift.
I'm not a fan of Taylor Swift, but that's okay.
And everybody else.
Beating them all out for a long time.
And it was pretty amazing, actually.
The song and the whole thing.
Those people.
Nobody's ever been treated so badly as those people.
He's not letting it go, folks.
And I know all the swampies out there in the Republican Party, you need to focus on inflation.
Yes.
You need to focus on the board.
Yes.
You are 100% correct.
We also need to focus on the massive deep state scandal that is the January 6th subterfuge.
Folks, I know what happened.
I get it.
Deep state Republican rhinos.
Deep state Twitter accounts faking it that you're something else.
Oh, I'm part of the...
You're not.
We know what you're doing.
I understand you don't care about what happened on January 6th.
I understand you're going to tell us over and over.
Some people assaulted cops.
I have spoken out against that.
Always will.
Period.
End of story.
It's been repeated a million times.
I wish today would have went differently.
It did not.
I also wish that the other side would acknowledge that we're clearly being bullshitted about what actually happened that day.
Thank God President Trump, and I'm not using the Lord's name in vain, I mean thank you Lord Jesus Christ that we won this election and we're going to get some answers about what our government's been up to.
Folks, there's some economic gaslighting going on too.
There was a hearing yesterday that did not get a lot of attention, but I'm telling you it should have.
President Trump picked a Treasury Secretary, a guy by the name of Scott Bessent.
And Scott Bessent, he's not the most...
I'm not trying to insult him, man.
He's not the most fiery guy.
I mean, he's certainly not like the Dan Bongito show in that respect.
And that's probably a good thing for a Treasury Secretary.
You want to calm the markets, right?
My job is to get you excited about politics, right?
But the hearing yesterday was pretty incredible.
I just want to play a couple of clips, and this one here, because economic gaslighting is a real thing, too.
If there is one piece of economic gaslighting that I could break, if God himself came down tomorrow and said, Dan, I am going to allow you into people's brains to change one stupid thing liberals believe, it would be about Hauser's Law.
I'm not going to bore you with all the economics, but Hauser's Law, named after Hauser, of course, is the idea that...
It doesn't matter what the tax rate is in the United States, the income tax rate.
People are going to pay about 17% to 20% of their money in income taxes, overall, averaged across the economy.
And once it gets higher than that, they'll do anything they can to avoid taxes.
In other words, it doesn't matter if the tax rate's 90% or 20%.
The government's going to get about 20% of your money.
So what should that tell you?
If you believe in math...
That if the government's going to take about 20% of GDP, whether you agree with it or not, if you spend more than 20, you're going to run a debt or deficit every year.
It doesn't matter the tax rate.
Besson tried to explain this to these idiots up on Capitol Hill yesterday.
It's called Hauser's Law, H-A-U-S-E-R. Look it up yourself.
It doesn't matter what the tax rate is.
People will not give you more than a fifth of their income across an economy, unless you do like a VAT. That's why they want it, because you can't see it.
Here's Besson trying to describe it to these idiots.
This is great.
I promise it's worth your time.
Check this out.
We do not have a revenue problem in the United States of America.
We have a spending problem that historically, for the past 40 or 50 years, revenues, federal government revenues, have averaged about 17 to 17.5% of GDP. And spending has been slightly over that.
Leading us to a 3.5% budget deficit, which is manageable because we have roughly 3.8% nominal growth.
1.8% real growth, 2% inflation.
Today, as you stated, and to be clear, this is one of the things that got me out from behind my desk and my quiet life in this campaign, was the thought that this spending is out of control.
We are spending about 24-25% of GDP.
So, as you said, 6.8% to 7% deficit.
We have never seen this before when it is not a recession or not a war.
There is nothing you're...
Your boy Dan Bongino loves more than economics.
I know most people hate it.
It's called the dismal science for a reason.
It doesn't matter.
Do you believe in math?
We raise 17 to 20% of the economy in taxes.
Besson's like, if you spend 24, you're going to be in debt.
It's not freaking hard.
Look it up.
It's called math.
Here's a great one here.
I got two good clips.
One, Kevin O'Leary from Shark Tank, just eating alive these CNN idiots.
By the way, now that this TikTok...
The thing is, in effect, it's not a ban, again, but TikTok may go off the air offline on Sunday if they don't sell.
I am just an investor in Rumble.
I am not a manager.
I want to be crystal clear.
However, as a Joe civilian, but who has a lot of money invested in Rumble, I do not manage the place for the thousandth time.
I am going to highly recommend that Rumble, again, seek out Kevin O'Leary and others and get involved in the partnership if TikTok's going to be purchased.
We have the video expertise to do this.
So Kevin O'Leary, I only bring him up because he's been talking about Rumble, but this clip is different.
But I want you to watch another clip by Besson where he brings up this great point.
Bernie Sanders, of course, communist, phony class warriors, rich himself.
I think he has three houses or whatever.
Here's Bernie Sanders calling out a group of rich people.
By the way, a couple of them I'm not even a huge fan of.
They hate our guts.
However, Besson points out this really interesting thing.
Like, what are you talking about?
Like, two of those three people you're talking about, they made their own money.
Like, this fake...
Fair share bullshit and this war on the rich is so pathetic because Bernie Sanders is rich himself.
Check this out.
When you have a small number of multi-billionaires who have enormous economic, media, and political power, would you agree with President Biden who last night stated, and I quote, an oligarchy is taking shape in America of extreme wealth, power, and influence that threatens our entire democracy, our basic rights, and freedoms.
End of quote.
That's what President Biden said last night.
I agree with him.
Do you?
Senator Sanders, I enjoyed our visit.
Talk a little bit closer into the mic.
I enjoyed our visit and I hope you got my follow-up materials on the discussions, my previous writings on the tariffs and China.
And look, the three billionaires who you listed, they all made the money themselves.
Unlike Bernie Sanders, who seems to have gotten rich off of public service.
Folks, you don't gotta like rich people.
Personally, I don't even like hanging around rich people.
You notice why you don't see a ton of pictures every week of me hanging around country clubs anywhere?
Or politicians or anyone else.
Look at my Instagram.
There's a couple here and there.
You're invited to dinner to speak to the president.
You go out of respect.
You'd be crazy not to.
It's not the kind of thing that happens to me.
Why?
It's not about them.
That's not my thing.
However, I'm not jealous of rich people because I do my own thing.
I don't spend my time worrying about other people's bullshit.
I worry about my own.
Here's Kevin O'Leary asking a really fascinating question on CNN. That applies to Bernie Sanders too.
He's talking about Joe Biden here, but watch the panel kind of freak out a little bit when he asks a really simple question.
How the hell did Joe Biden get rich?
What has he created?
I mean, Bezos at least has Amazon, whether you like him or not.
Elon's got a whole bunch of stuff.
What the hell did Joe Biden create?
Besides a bag of cocaine in the White House, what the hell did Biden create?
Check this out.
To make sure that the people at the top don't abuse the people at the bottom.
And our system in Washington is broken.
That's fair.
It's all fair.
But half the country is still wondering how Joe Biden got rich.
How did he get rich?
Does anybody understand how that happened?
I actually think that, Kevin, your question about Joe Biden's legacy and how he will be seen is actually extremely important.
Because...
I think it's not just Republicans who are asking the question, is Joe Biden going to be looked back on fondly?
Democrats are too.
Folks, you may say, why did you leave the response that had nothing to do with anything from Abby Phillips, the host you just heard there at the end?
Because it's not related at all.
That's the point.
O'Leary asked a simple question.
Does anybody on this panel know how Joe Biden got rich?
Did he create something, a service, a product?
And Abby Phillips is like, I know there's an open question about Joe Biden's legacy.
Nobody's asked about his legacy!
That's not what he said!
He asked a simple question.
Can anybody point to some value-added service Joe Biden, outside of his last name, has provided that made him rich?
Anyone?
And notice how she changes the subject.
They hate rich people.
As long as they're not Democrat rich people that sold the country out for money, then they love them.
Folks, if there's one more myth I could dispel.
Outside of Hauser's Law and the economics of taxation and spending.
If God Almighty, who I love and adore, my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, Dan, I'm going to empower you for a day to change one more thing.
I would change the idea that government somehow cares about you and that government can do what the free market can't.
Government has no incentive to fix any of your problems ever for any reason whatsoever at all.
I hope you guys understand that.
It is a third-party payer problem.
The government does not spend money on itself.
It spends it on other people so it doesn't give a shit.
The people in government don't spend the money on themselves.
They spend it on other people so they don't care.
Milton Friedman has talked about this all the time.
That's why they don't care about the cost of anything either because it's not even their money.
Government is the worst way to allocate money every single time.
Everything they do sucks because it's designed to suck.
I love that.
You know this guy Clay Higgins?
Again, outcomes, but this guy seems to really love to stir shit up, and I love people who kick doors in.
This representative Clay Higgins, he's talking to the Social Security Administrator head, and the guy's trying to tell him how great and how work at home and all this other stuff is at Social Security.
How they're cleaning stuff up.
The customer service is so great.
So Clay Higgins, you guys see this?
He decides, did you like this clip, Key?
Clay Higgins decides to call during the hearing Social Security's helpline and watch what happens.
This is just glorious.
This is your government hard at work.
Check this out.
Mr. Chairman, this is Social Security.
For one hour.
28 minutes, 25 seconds.
Phone number 800-772-1213.
It's a number for Social Security.
This is what our elders have to listen to.
These are our elders, my man.
One hour and 28 minutes.
What, the length of your show?
No!
That's how long he's on hold!
He just said it great.
How come nobody's done this before?
This should be every congressional hearing.
Social Security, which takes hundreds of billions of dollars a year from you and then wastes it and throws it away.
They can't even answer the phone in an hour and 28 minutes?
Now, I am by far, by far not telling you that private industry insurance companies are great at customer service either.
But folks, there's a difference.
You call.
Whatever.
I'm just throwing it.
All state insurance and you don't like waiting for 20 minutes?
You can cancel and go to Joe's insurance or Bobby's insurance.
You can find an alternative.
What's your alternative to Social Security?
The answer is nothing.
You're stuck.
They take your money no matter what.
They have no incentive to improve customer service because they have an entitlement to your money.
It's literally called an entitlement.
They don't give a shit.
And they will never give a shit.
Ever.
Clay Higgins, hot tip, genius.
Folks, I haven't said it in a long time because the election ended.
What are the two things that are most effective and kind of salient things you can do to make a political point?
Pictures and soundbites.
Clay Higgins holding the phone up and the sound of the elevator music in the background is not only a snapshot, but a soundbite too.
That's how you make a point.
Oh, it's all theatrics.
Folks, all politics is theatrics.
The only question is who's better at it.
And that was very good.
Hey man, thank you guys for everything.
Again, I really appreciate your support.
I just want you to watch, please, for my sake and your sake, so you understand, I want you to watch Twitter X today.
Twitter, put my name in there.
Not because I'm some kind of egomaniac.
I want you to watch what's happening.
And I want you to see who's upset.
And then you'll see who's on the right and wrong side of the moral arc of history.
Do it yourself.
It's an interesting test to run sometimes.
I have to do some micro-targeting for my show, so I see it a lot.
But I'll have more to say about this on Monday.
By the way, a lot of people ask me, what are we doing for Monday?
For Monday, we will be here for a regular show.
You guys, maybe we'll start a little early, maybe 15, 20 minutes early, so on Monday, but it'll be a regular show, regular radio show.
We'll be covering the inauguration.
Monday's going to be a great day.
Enjoy yourselves this weekend.
Keep an eye on Biden in the final closing minutes, though.
Anything can happen.
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If you would follow our show, we'd appreciate it.
Just click that follow button on Rumble, rumble.com slash Bongino on the web.
And if you go to Apple and Spotify, follow the Dan Bongino Show, I'd really appreciate it.
I'll see you back here on Monday.
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