LIVE WIth President Donald Trump (Ep. 2353) - 10/18/24
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Thank you.
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Welcome to the Dan Bongino Show.
Ladies and gentlemen, the waiting room is so packed right now in this live stream.
I think we may be the largest live stream in the world right now.
And the interview hasn't even started yet, and it's not even at a regular time.
Thank you, everyone.
I'm really appreciative that you all got here early.
I know we usually go 11 a.m.
Eastern every day.
But we're just waiting on President Trump.
He'll be here any minute.
I want to start a little bit early so we get everybody in.
So when he comes in, you can catch him walking in.
We've got a bunch of questions.
I took a lot of them from you in the audience.
Here they are right there.
If you want a sneak peek.
Some of you can pause the screen or screenshot.
You'll see that.
And obviously we're going to ask some questions about the Secret Service.
Things that are really personal and intimate to my heart.
I'm very concerned about his safety.
I want to make sure you know the President Trump I know.
A really, really good, decent guy who's portrayed by the media as some kind of a Skeletor-like He-Man villain.
And that's not the guy I know.
So we're going to do a kind of an untraditional interview.
I hope you all are cool with that.
I took some of your question recommendations from you, my staff, and everyone around.
We got some good stuff.
I just got some administrative stuff to handle in the beginning.
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I really appreciate your patience.
Thank you all for hanging.
President Trump will be here any minute.
He's leaving now.
We're in New York.
It's my home.
I was born here.
I'd love to tell you it looks a lot different than when I left.
It doesn't outside of Louis Vuitton doing a nice little building in the background.
You got Central Park over the shoulder.
What a great view.
Alright, welcome back, sir.
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So I've got a bunch of questions planned.
I'm going to give you guys a preview because you got in here a little early.
Just waiting on President Trump.
I had to get in.
Let me put you stood inside here.
And obviously one of the things that's bothered me, I said in the beginning, is the debacle with the Secret Service.
President Trump is a very significant threat to his life.
I was a Secret Service agent for many years under two Democrat administrations and one Republican one.
And I think it's really important that we focus on not just the safety of President Trump, but all our protectees.
This is a constitutional republic, folks.
This isn't some third world, you know, failing former empire.
We've got to keep them alive.
And for what it's worth, my objective analysis of the security walking in, they have definitely upped the security plan around here in Trump Tower.
Did I say we were in Trump Tower?
Did I tell them that I didn't?
Oh, sorry, guys.
So a lot of you were asking on the chat, Is this going to be, you know, live with President Trump?
Yes.
Obviously, now you can tell it is.
It's not remote.
But yeah, we're in Trump Tower.
We came in this morning.
I mean, I don't want to go into deep security details, I noticed.
But I can tell you from experience that I've definitely seen some, we'll call them enhancements, for the big six threats.
You know, big six threats when I was in the Secret Service are the tactical threat, the medical emergency threat, the chem bio threat, an IED, airborne, and fire.
And I've noticed on a few fronts that there are definitely things going on here, so that should put you at ease a little bit.
I'm going to ask him about that.
I also want to ask him about the storm response.
President Trump was one of the few guys to run for office and win with a significant body of billion-dollar business experience in a number of different enterprises.
So I think one of the questions that I'm kind of surprised no one has really dug into, if they have, forgive me, I'm not trying to be presumptuous about it, But I was chatting with Paula this morning, right, Paula, about this, the real estate question.
And I thought, you've been doing real estate, significant real estate business in New York for many years, dealing with unions, the city, bureaucracies, you know, mercenary bureaucrats.
You know, what'd you learn from that?
What'd you learn from that?
In that experience, is that one of the things that motivated you to run for office?
You know, and by the way, if we get any folks in the chat, is he coming in now?
If we get any folks in the chat who have a really good question, you know, fire it out.
I'd love to hear it.
All right, just waiting on President Trump.
I can see this.
So I can give you a little play-by-play.
I'll be like, hopefully not Bob Costas on TBS for the playoffs, if you know, you know.
But we got a bunch of, looks like, former colleagues of mine in the lobby out there, Secret Service guys.
We got a crew back here who's being very quiet, which I really appreciate.
You guys are amazing.
Then look, the doors are now opening.
There's a, what's that, 200,000 people now?
Oh my gosh.
Should I feel...
Am I supposed to be like nervous or something?
Should I be a little pressure?
Should I pretend?
Guy, don't be nervous, right?
Don't be nervous.
So when he comes in, we'll let him sit down.
Obviously, we don't have to mic him up or anything like that.
We've got the mic stand.
And he just got off the Fox interview, which I watched this morning.
By the way, did you guys see him at the Al Smith dinner last night?
He absolutely slayed.
He was hilarious last night.
That joke about Tampon Tim was classic.
That Tim Walls didn't show up to the Al Smith dinner, but he's going to tell everyone he was there anyway with the deadpan delivery.
It was fantastic.
You know who wasn't there last night in addition to Tampon Tim?
Yeah, Kamala Harris, one of the first major presidential candidates in American history to not show up because she was afraid.
That's why.
She was afraid.
How are you all doing back there?
We've got 200,000 people waiting now.
It hasn't even started yet.
Paul, you've got to keep your eye on that.
You've got to give me the play-by-play.
Guys, spread the word.
To all you Bongino Army folks out there, spread the word.
Start sending the link now.
Say get in before.
You don't want to miss any question.
The first one right out of the box is going to be Secret Service.
I want to really get to this and dig in.
Because I know he cares deeply about the guys who surround him.
And can I just say on a personal note, the guys on his team, I've worked with for a long time, and they're really good people, and they really care about him personally.
You know, you're not supposed to get personal when you're there, but it's hard not to with a guy like that.
You know, he really loves his guys, and they're really loyal to him.
A couple other things I want to ask Mike, although I've got to be honest with you, Fox kind of stole my thunder a little bit this morning and asked a question I already have, but I'm going to ask it again in a different way.
You know, the personnel issue.
You know, personnel or policy.
And I think we can all agree, you know, in the first term, a lot of people came to him.
He was not a politician.
And they recommended hires.
And some of these people screwed him over.
But he gave a great answer.
And I want to kind of dig in a little deeper.
He gave a great answer.
And I really appreciate it.
It was candid and it was honest.
He said, hey, listen, the difference between me and Joe Biden is I actually fire people.
You got this guy in the White House right now with SpaghettiOs for brains.
He's got people failing everywhere.
Who gets fired?
They don't only get fired, they get raises.
He doesn't even know their names.
He calls his HHS secretary Javier Baccaria.
It's not even the guy's name.
And then Lloyd Austin, the defense secretary.
He's laughing.
Remember how many times we played the clip of the defense secretary where he can never remember his name?
He calls him the general, that guy, the tall guy in the corner, that dude.
He can't even remember the guy's name.
At least get it right.
At least Javier Baccaria, he's got close.
He's at least in the ballpark.
He doesn't remember anyone's name.
Well, President Trump actually fires people.
And that's the way it happens in the business world.
When you're in a business world and you're building a real estate, have you seen this building, folks?
Have you ever been here?
There's a bunch of Trump supporters outside.
I saw them coming in.
They said really nice things.
So thank you if you're watching live under your phone outside.
Nice to see you.
He built this real estate empire.
If you've got someone who tells you they're going to pour 20 floors of concrete and they only get 15 done, you've got to fire them.
You've got to let them go.
But Biden doesn't do that.
So we'll get into the personnel question and we'll see what we've done in hopefully a second term to get some people in there.
And I want to bring up one more thing about personnel.
Sorry, I've got a lot more.
Howard Lutnick, who's a really good guy, I know really well, and is a Donald Trump supporter.
He was on, I think it was CNBC the other day, and he brought up this fascinating point.
The CNBC people, they said it like it was some kind of an insult.
They were like, you know, well, President Trump is, you know, demanding loyalty.
And Lutnick was like, yeah, no shit, man.
Like, who the hell doesn't demand?
Why would you want someone in your White House that wasn't loyal to you and the cause and the Constitution?
I mean, he's like, you think I would hire someone at Cantor Fitzgerald, his company, if they weren't loyal?
So we'll bring that up too.
And I know what he's talking about.
You know, of course, you think Joe Biden's not hiring people who are loyal to Joe Biden?
Give me a break.
They cover for this guy no matter.
Matter of fact, you know, the sad joke about the whole thing is they were so loyal to Joe Biden that the guy's got like advanced stage dementia and nobody even said anything.
It was like the worst kept secret in the world.
And nobody said anything.
So, you know, hard pass on like blood oats and loyalty stuff.
That was kind of dumb.
Another question I want to get into with the President, this is a little personal for me and for him, is the substance abuse question.
Huge problem in the United States.
I know it's come up before, but...
My humble opinion, and I'm in this space all the time, I watch a lot of podcasts to see how people do things different.
I don't know everything.
I don't know 50% of the stuff out there, so I'm always learning.
President Trump was on with Theo Vaughn, a very funny guy, very talented guy, a huge podcast audience.
And Theo Vaughn asked him about, they got into a thing about substance abuse and President Trump talked about his no drugs, no drinking policy with him and his kids.
Paula, remember we were talking about this last night?
Folks, it's really hard to understand having grown up in New York like me and Paula did.
This is like a partying culture.
It is in New York.
People work hard and they play really hard.
To be a, you know, business tycoon in New York with everybody throwing everything from high-end whiskeys at you, Pappy Van Winkles, to $2,000 bottles of champagne and drugs all over the place.
Apollo, you worked in the financial industry, right?
You know, drugs all over the place.
For him to lead this disciplined, clean lifestyle, I don't think he gets a lot of credit for that.
Are you coming up now?
Soon.
Okay, cool.
So that's a question I want to ask.
I want to contrast that with this left-wing caricature of President Trump.
This left-wing caricature of President Trump that he's somehow this undisciplined kind of guy that doesn't at all vibe with his business success and the way he's raised his kids.
I think we can all agree in the chat that you can measure the wealth of a guy or a woman by how their kids turn out.
And if any of you out there have met Ivanka, Don, Eric, Tiffany, I haven't met Barron's younger, but I've met the rest of them, the rest of Donald Trump's children, they're just amazing people.
And you don't raise amazing kids like that by being a terrible human being.
It just doesn't happen.
I want to ask him as well about the transition period without getting ahead of ourselves.
We don't do red wave talk.
But I want to ask him as well about the transition period.
I'm extremely concerned about the potential for left-wing chaos if we were to win this thing.
I'm very concerned.
And I just want to get his take on that as well.
I'm going to ask him about, I believe his legacy, what I believe his legacy is going to be with the Republican Party.
I think his legacy with the Republican Party is going to be making the Republican Party the home for working class Americans and minority working class Americans again.
We have had a really hard time, again, Paul and I were chatting this morning, and I said, you know, I was watching President Trump on Fox and Friends.
And I said, this guy gets it, man.
He made the Republican Party edgy again.
We've run a bunch of stiffs and terrible candidates who may have been right on the issues, but they have been terrible on the message.
Got to get that right.
I think one of his lasting gifts to the Republican Party is going to be his ability, his very unique ability, to make this party the home for working class voters again.
And I think the greatest irony of all Is a very wealthy real estate developer in New York who understands, you know, union workers and everyone else became the guy who transformed the Republican Party back to the party of the working man.
I mean, that's kind of, I think that's going to be his lasting gift.
You know, every Republican who runs for office runs on, you know, taxes and prosperity and the economy.
You get all that.
But I think that's going to be the best part.
I think that's going to be his legacies.
Well, if we can get to the rest, I will.
I mean, obviously, we're limited by President Trump's schedule.
Can you keep me updated on time, by the way?
Show me your phone, Paul.
I just want to see if I can see the time from here.
I can.
I got good eyes.
Let me see the home screen.
Let me tell you.
These little tests folks are doing.
Oh, yeah.
There you go.
10.06.
Thank you.
We got one.
Yeah.
Thank you.
Just give me like every few minutes so I don't want to keep them.
There ever was any doubt in your life.
What's that?
There ever was any doubt in your life.
Yeah.
Okay.
Good.
Yeah.
But yeah, definitely show me your phone, Alexander.
What's that?
$235,000?
Oh my gosh.
This is insane.
I love you guys.
That's why I told you.
Folks, I promise I was not messing with you with the time.
It's just, I hope you understand.
The boss here is running a presidential campaign.
The priority is getting him elected.
It's not, you know, being on time for the Dan Bongino show.
It's not even my priority.
That's why I said, you know, 930-ish, because he's got things to do, and Manhattan is not the easiest place to get around.
It's the kind of place where if you get an Uber, we did it this morning.
It can go from one minute to two hours, depending on if the guy makes the wrong turn.
So, I mean, he's not really dealing with traffic control like other people, but he had an interview on Fox this morning, so, you know, my concern is getting him elected.
It's not so much being on time.
But, You know, if we can keep them for the 60, this may work out, it'll roll right into our regularly scheduled time.
But at this point, the 11 o'clock audience, if they missed it, will tune in.
Oh, Chris.
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Speaking of that, one question at the end I would like to get to, depending on time.
Hillary Clinton and John Kerry, most of you noticed we covered it on the show, have been actively now pushing for anti-free speech, censorship, weaponization of government type measures.
This is the kind of thing I know Democrats have always supported, but they've at least been quiet about it in the past.
They're not doing that now.
And Elon Musk is being openly threatened by the EU now.
They're trying to bankrupt him for supporting a platform that basically believes in free expression.
There are terms of service, of course, but free expression.
We've got to fight back.
If we don't fight back against the EU doing this and use all of our diplomatic weapons, then folks, free speech, you know, free speech is going to be gone.
Free speech, if we lose, free speech is finished.
You're going to see platforms like this and other platforms, True Social and others, that are going to be under relentless assault.
And we can't rely on the courts to save us.
We've seen that in the past.
That's not the backstop.
That's not the relief pitcher out of the bullpen.
We've got to win this election.
We've got to win this election or we're not going to have platforms like this to speak out.
Speaking of which, I also would like to bring up, again, depending on time, Elon Musk.
Elon's out campaigning now actively.
Elon Musk, one of the most recognizable, wealthiest men in the world.
Guy who just amazingly landed a rocket back on Earth that got grabbed out of the air by what they call chopsticks.
Trust me, those weren't no chopsticks.
I've used chopsticks.
I suck at using chopsticks.
Those weren't chopsticks.
Those was like, who the hell does that?
I'm watching this thing on Twitter, this rocket coming down to Earth.
It looks like freaking Lightspeed, Millennium Falcon.
I'm like, this thing's going to crash.
I heard him say it this morning, too, on Fox& Friends.
He was saying the president.
He was saying the same thing.
And it manages to slow down.
Can you imagine this thing's landing?
And it finds this little platform in the middle of nowhere, like a speck of dust in the scheme of things.
This is the kind of guy I want in charge of a government efficiency committee.
You want to talk about cleaning up government and streamlining it?
Well, this is the way to do it.
This is the way to get it done.
What's that?
250 now?
Oh, man.
You tell me you don't be nervous, right?
Yeah, don't be nervous.
Sorry, folks.
We're still waiting.
Ever tell you that story?
I was doing a local radio.
Rush Limbaugh tragically passes away, and they announce that I'm going to be taking over the 12 o'clock spot.
On a bunch of these networks.
And I'm doing an interview with this local station.
They were great.
And we were on there.
They were going to take our show, right?
And the lady, the host says to me, I'm sitting there waiting for this live interview at a local station.
She's like, you're not nervous, right?
You're going to be okay?
I was like, yeah, I think I'll be okay.
I'm pretty sure.
So Guy does that to me every time.
He's like, don't be nervous.
I don't really have the nervous gene, though.
Did you notice that?
It's not really my thing.
Should we play the dog video game?
The dog video.
I'm killing me with the dog video.
Who was watching yesterday when we played that ridiculous dog video from TMZ? I was going to let it go, but Guy's right.
He said, you've got to be a man of your word.
You said on a Friday show, you're going to play this stupid dog video of this dog allegedly turning into a human being.
And so we played the dog.
Did anyone in the chat, did you guys hate it?
Was it like so?
But he made me do it.
And Guy's telling Paula, last night we were flying up.
He's like, the reason that he had to play this thing is he just drew this dog video in there in the show with no context whatsoever.
He's like, what the hell is he going to say about this crazy dog video?
So we played the dog video.
And you see, I listen to my crew sometimes.
I didn't really have a lot to add, but if you saw it, it was kind of weird.
It's probably some kind of AI thing or whatever.
All right.
Yeah, I should have worn my Is It Bad Enough Yet shirt.
I would, but folks, I hope you understand.
You know, former president, you got to...
Do I clean up okay?
I'm really uncomfortable in this.
So just so you know, Justin was saying to me this morning, he's like, dude, you look a little stiff in this stuff.
This is not my thing.
Do I look all right?
I mean, is the collar working?
Yeah, I am.
Thank you.
Thank you.
This is not my look at all.
No, but out of respect for obviously the former president, you got to put a collar on.
But my is a bad enough shirt would have worked really well.
What's that?
You like it?
Well, I guess that's all that matters, right?
We'll see.
We're headed out after this, folks.
We're going to a concert down in Charlotte.
Anybody have any guesses?
No way!
Yeah, we're going to go to the Morgan concert down in Charlotte.
We're going to be there Saturday, so if you're at Morgan Wallen, come say hello.
We'll be down in the pit.
We made a lot of friends last time.
It was a good time, but we're headed out, and then we've got to head back home for the Monday show after that.
What?
Do you really?
Is Baccino in the chat?
Of course.
Get our homie Baccino on the case.
Baccino.
Here's the deal.
What do you think?
Once a month or so, I'll make a new deal with you today on the show.
Not like an FDR new deal.
Once a month, I will put on a jacket and a button-down shirt.
If the chat says so.
Bachino, yes, please clean up once in a while and don't look like such a savage.
Yes, put a collar and a jacket on once in a while.
Or no, we like Dan with the Bongino shirts.
Bachino, get on the case right now.
Oh, should we tell him the baseball thing if he'll do it?
Okay, cool.
Listen, I'm going to ask.
I don't want to put...
Half and half.
Folks, help me out.
Nose.
Folks, nose in the...
Please, help me out.
Bongino Army, come on.
I really don't want to put that.
I'll do it just for you if you want it, but I am.
I'm lobbying.
I'm lobbying.
This is like a Farrah violation.
There's some foreign influence in this.
But I'll do it for you.
So if we have time at the end, you know we're doing election night coverage, so we'll be live for four hours.
Or more.
We're going from 7.30 to whenever on election night.
So one of our listeners was kind enough to make these baseballs, these Dan Bongino baseballs.
You see it says Dan Bongino Show.
Bongino, they're kind of from 2021.
But I'm going to ask the president to sign one.
And here's what we're thinking about doing.
Samaritan's Purse, a really great charity.
They're helping out with the hurricane relief.
What do you guys think about election night?
We'll auction it off.
You'll know it's real because you'll watch them sign it.
Again, I don't want to put them on the spot, but if you do it for us, you'll watch them sign it, and we'll auction it off.
We'll give everything over to Franklin Graham's Samaritan's Purse.
Obviously, hurricane's a big issue with me living in Florida and a lot of these folks in North Carolina.
Let's not forget Tennessee, South Carolina, Georgia, and Florida.
They've been really hurt, so that'd be a pretty cool idea, right?
He's coming down.
Oh, he's coming.
Okay, cool.
He's coming down.
275?
No, we haven't even started yet.
That's crazy, man.
275.
I know, Chris.
We're about to smash the chat completely.
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Yeah, look at this guy.
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Look at you.
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Thank you, Mr.
President, for doing this.
We appreciate it.
Saying hello to the crew.
My guy.
Nice to see you.
Nice to see you.
So we're doing pretty well.
I mean, the states are looking pretty good.
Listen, I have never been more excited about a race than this one, but I'm telling everyone to vote early.
Bank that vote.
Well, vote early or vote.
Or vote.
But if you can, bank it.
It's so good to see you.
I mean, stand up.
You are.
That's good.
Thank you.
Former president and soon to be, hopefully, next president.
How you been?
You feeling all right?
I really hope so.
You've been busy.
I've been busy.
I really have.
I've been, we've been doing a lot.
Your show's going great, huh?
How many people we got watching right now?
Oh, yeah.
I've moved your mic a little closer, Mr.
President, just to me.
How many people we got watching?
290,000 people and the show just started.
So we'll be the biggest live stream in the world.
You're going to have a lot more than that when this goes off.
You watch.
We beat the NFL last night in the live stream.
Is that right?
Yeah, we did.
No kidding.
You know why?
Because the MAGA crowd are the most loyal people I've never seen.
Your crowd is MAGA, right?
Oh my gosh.
Pretty much.
MAGA. They're like super extra MAGA. They're like, you know, Elon had like the dark MAGA. Right.
We're like the darkest MAGA. Yeah, right.
Oh yeah.
We're like...
How about Elon?
How about him?
Oh, we love you.
I saw that rocket come in, and he's campaigning now in Pennsylvania.
I love it.
It's good to have successful people, right?
Yeah, he's the sweetheart.
Let's go.
I got a couple of questions for you.
I appreciate your time, first off.
The Secret Service, obviously a sensitive topic with me.
I spent 12 years there, protected Democrat and Republican president, something really close to my heart.
I know you've told the story quite a bit.
We all saw it.
I spoke to you the next day.
We had a conversation on the phone.
It was amazing.
You told the story almost like you weren't even there.
I couldn't believe how you came within inches of...
Dying on television.
There's no easy way to put it.
And you just, I never see anything like it.
You get up and your first instinct gets to scream, fight.
And then you had said, which I know the people who surround you, they're really good people.
The Secret Service, I've known them for a long time.
But if we get you in the office, Mr.
President, we need you safe.
Can we commit today to some kind of commission or reform the Secret Service?
We can get some outside experts to make substantive reforms when you're in charge.
So the people I've met from Secret Service, and I know a lot of them, right?
They're amazing.
They're really good.
They had a really bad day in Butler.
And I don't know whose fault that was.
You know, I guess you go top level, but that building should have been covered, obviously.
But if you look at what happened...
When those bullets started going off, they were on top of me really quickly.
It's a miracle they weren't hit, actually.
I think the guy was sort of stunned.
Something happened to him.
Something happened.
The Secret Service shooter was amazing, because he was very far away, and he spent one bullet, when you think.
But everybody I've met from the Secret Service has been so good, but they had a bad day, there's no doubt about it.
We're not allowed in this world to have a bad day, right?
No.
Not in this one.
This is too big.
I think they did a good job the second time.
Some people said you should have caught him the day before, or he should have never been there, but that was a great job that the other Secret Service, the second time, when that guy was I don't think so.
I'm one of the people who have done this.
No, I understand.
I understand it.
That guy should have been nowhere near you.
Yeah, yeah.
I understand it both ways.
The individual guy did an amazing job to see a barrel coming out of the bush.
Oh, that guy, yeah.
No, but to see a barrel, a Secret Service guy, to see a barrel coming out of a bush was something pretty amazing.
But no, it's got to be safe.
Got to be safe.
Yeah, we need to reform that.
It's really important.
How was the report?
The report came out yesterday.
The report's devastating and it confirms a lot of things that I've said being an agent for over a decade of my life.
Mr.
President, they have this government attitude.
This kind of segues nicely into another question I had.
You're from the private sector.
Okay, I was giving an example.
I was chatting, waiting for you, my audience, to come down from your Fox interview and what you were doing.
And I said, you're a builder in New York, one of the toughest places in the world to build.
You know that.
You're dealing with bureaucrats, unions, unions with conflicting interests.
How you got all this done, I don't even know, but you did.
You tell a guy, I need 15 floors of concrete in six months, and he tells you, hey, we came up 10 floors short.
You're going with the new concrete company.
And by the way, you're dealing with a lot of interest, if you know what I mean, especially in the concrete in New York.
You've been there, right?
That doesn't happen in New York.
I mean, in the government.
Excuse me, you were president of the United States.
You have these failed agencies that blew it.
The Secret Service that did this whole, you know, yesterday's technology, tomorrow.
We used to laugh when they didn't have a drone.
So when you get into office, say with someone like an Elon Musk, are you planning on some systemic wide review of the FBI, Secret Service, these other entities and say, listen, we're not doing it this way anymore.
We're going to produce results for the American people or you're all getting a boot.
We're out.
This is it.
We're done.
Well, Dan, as you know, you have to have the best people, and it's all about the people.
And I know nothing about, you know, very little about that, although I've learned a lot over the last few weeks.
It's amazing.
You know, we had a rally in Butler, second rally.
We had 107,000 people, it turned out.
Amazing.
And it's become a great site.
I don't know if it's like a memorial site where cars are riding up and down the road, honking their horn from all over the place.
They're coming from all over the country.
It's become like, what is it in Nevada where they have their site with the aliens, right?
Area 51.
Area 51, Area 51.
I think it's the largest.
Butler, you have to see Butler.
The streets are just loaded with cars.
They ride up and down the side and they honk.
It's, I don't know, it's cute.
It's beautiful, actually.
But I know the Secret Service well.
I know, I didn't know the top person, but I know the people that work on my detail.
They're very, you know, very good.
You know a lot of them.
And they're great people.
Something went wrong and you can't let it go wrong.
So, I can't tell you.
You'd be somebody good to look into that.
You would be good.
That was your business, right?
That was my business for a long time.
You would be good, but they got to get it right.
It's dangerous.
I'll tell you what, being president is a dangerous profession when you think, okay?
I mean, forget about me.
You look, it's one-tenth of one percent die as a race car driver, right?
Okay, so you take one percent.
Now you take one-tenth of that.
That's what die.
And these guys are going around a track at 220 miles an hour.
The bull riding to me looks like, you know, that's not something I want to do, right?
And it's about the same, one-tenth.
You know, they get killed.
They get killed.
It's not like it hasn't happened.
JFK. No, it happens.
Reagan was shot.
No, no, but when you think about it...
A lot of presidents have been shot and even assassinated relative to the number.
So I always say this is a dangerous business.
I never thought of that when I ran.
You know, you think everything's peachy dory, but it's a nasty business.
One thing I would like to do is the first shooter...
Which they say was a miracle.
I mean, you know, it's lucky I moved to the right.
But if I didn't turn to the right, over immigration.
See, I got saved over illegal immigration.
The chart.
My all-time favorite chart.
But the first shooter had three apps.
And two of them, they say, were foreign-based, and they haven't opened those apps.
And I wonder why the FBI hasn't done that.
The second shooter had six cell phones.
Now, who has six cell phones?
Have you ever heard of anyone?
I have two.
But who has six cell phones?
And you would think that they'd want those opened, and they haven't opened them.
And they can open them, and I guarantee they opened them for January 6th.
All those guys got their cells opened.
So why aren't they opening?
So I do ask that question.
Why isn't the FBI opening up those phones?
And they're foreign.
It looks like they're foreign-based.
You never know, you know, where these people are coming from.
They may look innocent, like, you know, they're nice country boys, but they may not be.
So I'd like to see them open that up and fast, and we'll get down to the bottom of it.
I suspect there's probably some foreign connections here, and candidly, I don't trust...
It looks it, doesn't it, though?
Yeah, I just don't trust the FBI, Mr.
President, given their experience with you.
I understand that.
It's not like we're basing this off some...
Hypothetical.
They've spied on your campaign.
We have the names of the spies.
I mean, I wrote three books on it.
I cited left-wing sources in the books.
They actually spied on my campaign, and then they go after the people that went after the spies.
They spied on my campaign.
And if you look, it was Biden and Obama and their group of people.
And the deep state, they wanted that forgotten as quickly as possible.
The fake news media, they hate to cover it.
And when you say they spied on my campaign, they go, well, you know, No, they actually spied on my campaign.
We have it all, so we'll see.
Leslie Stahl said no, though, at 60 Minutes, so it didn't happen.
Yeah, yeah.
She's a very credible source, of course.
Leslie Stahl.
And, you know, she never gave me an apology.
No, no.
And David Muir didn't give me.
When I said crime is rampant, he said, no, crime has gone down.
Right.
And he said, the FBI told him.
I said, well, the FBI, it's a It's a fraudulent report because they didn't include the worst cities.
You saw the FBI correction.
They corrected, yeah.
They had to say, oh yeah, there were 1,699 more.
How do you miss a murder?
The guy's dead.
That's right.
How do you miss a murder?
They go, let's include a few other cities like the worst cities, right?
No, it's very sad what's happening with the FBI. You ever say to yourself, gosh, my batting average with these media idiots is like a thousand?
Like, this is Trump a thousand, media loser zero?
I mean, I gotta tell you, of all the media moments you've had, the one that infuriates me the most, it's actually a segment on my show, is the Leslie Stahl, sir, moment.
Sir, sir, we can't verify.
You're the media, you loser.
What do you mean you can't, your job is, all you had to do was go to the FBI and ask, is this thing real?
And she knew it, she knew it.
Look, it's, hey, I think the worst scandal I've ever seen in broadcast history Will maybe not be as much of a scandal that were a Republican would have been over when they changed Kamala's answer.
They didn't edit.
They took her entire which showed she was crazy.
They took it out the entire paragraph and it was a long lots of they say word salad.
I don't like the term actually but They say words.
It was just words, like rambling words.
Horrible.
So they take it out and they put another statement that you made two pages later.
They insert it.
And nobody would have known the difference and they got caught.
They got caught.
And I think it's the worst scandal.
You know, it's one thing if they took even a sentence off, because they do that with me all the time, because I like to speak in long sentences, paragraphs, right?
And if they take a sentence out like in the middle, it really does screw it up.
But think of this, they took the whole thing in, and they replaced it with a totally unrelated time and place, and they put it in.
And that's the only one that we caught, and we want them to release the tapes now.
So I think I'm going to sue them, actually.
Go for it.
I think so.
No, you know what?
They can't defend it.
And if they do, and even if they win, it's going to be very embarrassing.
60 Minutes, so I've done it many times.
I did it with Mike Wallace.
The best one I ever had was Mike Wallace, and he was the biggest killer.
You know, Chris tries to be Mike, but you still have to have it.
Yeah, he's not cutting it.
He doesn't.
Nah, he's not cutting it.
But...
It's a very embarrassing moment for them, but the media is not pressing it.
You would think the media would be pressing it.
And I go a step further.
It's so bad they should lose their license and they should take 60 minutes off the air.
This is like the $64,000 question many years ago.
Have you ever read the books on television?
They caught somebody, they gave somebody the answers, right?
And he was very famous.
They ended up giving him the answers.
The whole thing, it was the biggest scandal maybe in television.
But this is potentially, because think of what they did.
It's election interference.
They gave her An answer.
Right.
It was worse than that.
They took the answer out and put a new answer in.
Mr.
President, I think you should call them 61 minutes from now on because they had an extra minute for Kamala.
So I think it's a mistake to call them 60 minutes.
You're giving them too much credit.
So in public speeches, just refer to them 61.
They had an extra minute for Kamala Harris.
But how about David Muir?
Everything I said.
Crime is down, right?
Everything I said, he questioned.
There wasn't a thing.
Every single thing I said, he questioned.
And he was wrong, I think, on every one of them, I'm pretty sure.
And he never questioned her.
And she talked about Charlottesville.
All things that have been, as they say, debunked.
Another term I don't like, but it's a pretty accurate term.
All totally debunked.
Bloodbath.
They used a bloodbath.
They were talking about the car industry, right?
Not talking about a bloodbath.
He used the word bloodbath.
These people are sick.
You've got to say, though, they are good at what they do.
You have to admire it.
Yeah, listen.
They are sick.
You know, you and I are New York kids, you know?
I'm just a slight, tad bit younger, but you remember 1980s Times Square, pre-Giuliani?
You know, remember the Folexes, the fake Rolexes, and then all the peep shows and stuff?
I mean, some of the scammers were good.
Remember the Shell Game guys?
Like, they were good.
So that's them.
Like, if you're going to be good at a scammer, you might as well be good at it.
The press is a big scam.
It's terrible.
You know, I don't know that a country can come back if it has a fake press.
It's hard.
Because they're like the policemen.
They keep people honest, right?
But Democrats don't have to be honest.
They really don't have to be honest because they will never be accused of anything.
It's interesting.
I was so amazed that Harvey Weinstein got He got hit as hard as you can get hit.
Because he was sort of the king of the walk, right?
And yet he got hit.
And I figured that maybe he wouldn't get hit so hard.
But boy did he get...
You don't know him well.
I don't know him well.
But I watched that.
And it was amazing.
So when they do get hit, they get hit.
But that's the only one I can think of.
Normally they protect everybody.
What they did with Adams I think is very suspect.
I heard you bring that up last night.
Well, I brought it up because he was on the dais.
I think other people were bringing it up, too.
You think it's coincidental that he comes out with the immigration problem in New York City as the mayor here?
No.
I predicted it.
So he came out pretty strongly against the migrants taking over the city, which as a mayor he should, right?
And not getting paid.
You know, they've spent $3 billion on migrants, and the federal government's not there to pay it back.
But he won against the party.
I said, he will be indicted within six months.
I know these people.
Like deranged Jack Smith.
This is a deranged individual.
Do you see he's going to release another manifesto?
I mean, is this the...
This guy is absolutely...
Before the election.
I've never seen anything like it.
This is like tyranny.
And the judge is allowing...
And the judge is allowing him to do it.
And it's not even believable.
This guy is a sick puppy.
And they're going to release something else.
And always before the election.
You know, they want to do it before the election.
It's election interference.
No, it's a terrible thing, what's happening.
And the judges, this judge is the most evil person.
I never see anything like it.
They all said, well, make sure you don't get Chutkin.
And who did I get?
I got Chutkin.
She's a real prize.
Because, you know, it has to get approved by lots of different people.
But they said, make sure you don't get Chutkin.
Well, I have nothing to do with it.
So, you know, they supposedly pick, they pick balls, right?
It's...
I don't think it works that way, but that's what they say.
That's the way it's supposed to be.
You pick out of a hat, and that's the judge.
There was probably one name in the hat.
Well, you don't want Chutkin, that's for sure, and you got Chutkin.
Every ballot in a hat had Chutkin on it.
What judge would do that?
Forget about deranged Jack Smith.
You know, a judge is supposed to keep him in Jack.
What judge would...
Say, we're going to release something, you know, a couple of days before the election.
By the way, which you have almost no ability to respond to.
He could be making this up.
Everyone in our system is innocent until proven guilty, not guilty until proven innocent.
It's disgraceful.
It's an amazing thing, Will.
You know what?
The real...
I've got so much I want to talk about.
Can I ask you a different question?
No, it's because it's hard to believe, right?
It is, it's hard to believe.
Even the CNN legal analyst, what's his name, that Honig guy?
It's like, this is really unprecedented.
That's CNN, they don't even like it.
Did he say that about this one?
He said it about three weeks ago when Jack Smith released the first, you look it up, I'm pretty sure it was Honig, but it was definitely on CNN. And he was, I think, a federal prosecutor.
And he said, I've never seen anything like this, where the prosecutor gets to release an uncontested memo with unproven charges, not in a courtroom, but basically a campaign document.
It was the most obscene thing.
Again, CNN, which, let's be honest, they hate your guts.
And they're putting that on the, that's how bad this guy is.
The legal analyst for CNN, he's the top guy, has been against all of this.
He said, Trump did nothing wrong.
I'm so amazed.
I'm more impressed with that than anything else I've seen on CNN. But, you know, because you'd think they'd try and stop him.
He is one of the biggest guarders of the Constitution.
I mean, he really is.
He's a great lawyer.
He said, this is really unfair.
But think of it.
Right before the election.
Now, I don't even know what it says.
This is made up by other people.
It has nothing to do with me.
And you don't even get a right to answer.
It is...
See, that's election interference right there.
That's cheating on an election.
How many stories have they told about you that are so...
Remember that you beat up the Secret Service driver?
We used to laugh about that on my show because I know that people were involved.
So that's now been proven to be false.
That you tackled.
You gave them a triangle choke from the back of the car.
You're a pretty talented guy.
A lot of people said, don't dispute that, sir.
It makes you look very tough and strong.
No, they say I went to the man of the right who's a weightlifter and like 30 years old.
And then the man of the right who's supposed to be a great karate expert.
I decided to go for him and I got him around the neck.
Use your skills.
And this was a woman who...
I think the testimony is all now gone.
So what happened, to me, here's one of the greatest scandals.
The Unselect Committee of Political Hacks, Cheney, all these people.
Cheney is, you know, they say, we have a Republican.
The Republican is Cheney, and then they have kissing, crying.
Yeah, he's always crying.
Yeah.
I've never seen him when he's not crying.
They call him crying, Adam kissing.
He cries every time, you know?
He's so desperate.
He's a sick puppy.
Those are the two Republicans, okay?
So they say, the bipartisan committee, they were much worse than any Democrat.
The Democrats were nothing.
So anyway, so the head of it, Benny Thompson, a real beauty, he decided to destroy all evidence of this year and a half trial.
Everything is gone.
The reason is because I was so innocent.
And, like, as an example, this one case that...
I won't mention names.
The person that did that said that it's been totally...
Unconfirmed, right?
It's been unconfirmed.
The Secret Service agent said, never happened.
Never happened.
First of all, you wouldn't be able to do it.
I worked with him in New York, Bob.
Yeah, Bobby.
He's great.
He knows that didn't happen.
Bobby's a tough cookie.
Bobby's not going to let somebody grab him.
Yeah.
You're not grabbing Bobby around.
You're right.
That may be a great thing.
You took them all out.
No, no.
I have a friend that say, why are you fighting that?
Let it be.
It doesn't make any difference.
Let it be.
You beat that crap out of it.
It's the coolest thing I've ever heard, right?
But I said, let's tell the truth.
It never happened.
I actually said, I'd love to go down.
Remember, peacefully and patriotically.
Do you know they don't mention that in any paper?
No, never.
The biggest, most important part, peacefully and patriotically.
They don't mention that in any paper, in any document, in anything.
It's crazy.
So anyway, so it was all disproven.
Did you know they've destroyed all evidence, right?
Now you're supposed to go to jail if you destroy evidence.
Even in a civil case, you go to jail.
They announced, we have decided to destroy all evidence having to do with the unselect committee.
I love the name unselect because it's called the select committee.
I call it the unselect committee.
Do you find it weird that the January 6th unselect committee, which I agree is unselect about them, Do you find it weird they're not interested about why Kamala Harris was not at the Capitol on January 6th, but was at the DNC when a pipe bomb was outside?
Yeah, it's interesting.
Why doesn't Kamala Harris...
They keep saying it's an insurrection.
Why doesn't she tell that story?
It's a rigged deal.
The whole thing is rigged.
100% rigged.
If you get elected, and we hope that happens, can you get an answer as to why she was there?
I do believe.
I do believe.
Look, this is really corrupt stuff.
The other thing is, as you know, they really won in the Supreme Court.
Okay, the Fisher case and the various cases.
Why are they still being held?
Nobody's ever been treated like this.
Nobody's ever...
Maybe the Japanese during Second World War, frankly, but, you know, they were held, too.
But when you look at Portland and the damage they did and killed people, because other than Ashley, nobody was killed here.
Nobody was killed.
And there were no guns involved.
And these are all gun owners.
You know, these are people that have guns, but they never went to the Capitol with guns.
Yeah, yeah.
It's really amazing.
It's a very sad, I think it's a very sad day in the country's life.
But here's the end of this.
They destroyed and deleted all evidence.
So now we're not going to know what she said about how I beat the crap out of these two Secret Service agents.
I was so strong.
My arm just ripped around those big necks, 24-inch necks.
I ripped my arm around them and they didn't have a chance.
Dan, can you imagine that?
But how do they delete it and destroy it?
You're not allowed to do that.
The Secret Service deleted the text from that day, too.
And they said it was a tech transfer.
It was not.
It's a lie.
So if you get elected, I'm really hoping we can get to the bottom.
We should talk about that.
Can I ask you something else about a kind of a switching gears minute?
You know, the media paints you in this ridiculous.
You've seen the caricatures.
They're insane.
You know, when I was going through cancer treatment at Sloan Kettering, I was going in for surgery and I had a bad incident.
And you called me that day from the White House.
And I got to tell you, I was really touched by the whole thing.
You are extremely loyal to your friends.
And I say to people, you know why?
Because he's a Queens guy.
And tell me if I'm right.
Here's my theory, Donald Trump theory on Queens, why you got the bravado and the machismo and why the guys really like you and the bro podcast.
Queens guys, we never had the money of the Manhattan kids, so you don't have the class of the Manhattan kids.
You're not in the upper crust of this fake gas system we have in New York.
You know it exists.
But we're never giving the tough guy credit to Brooklyn and the Bronx kids.
Nobody wants to fight them just because they say they're from Brooklyn.
So when we're from Queens, we always got to say it and do it.
We just can't show up and, oh, this guy's got money, he's from Central Park West, or he's from Brooklyn, he's tough.
Tell me I'm not right about Queens.
Is that the Donald Trump?
Well, it's a great place to learn.
A lot of very successful people came out of Queens.
Queens is a place of successful people, as you know.
But so is Brooklyn.
And maybe the Bronx, too.
A little bit different.
Paula's from the Bronx.
Huh?
Paula.
Lovely Paula.
She looks good, doesn't she?
It's good.
Beyond good.
It's really...
It's crazy being married to a 25-year-old.
I know.
It's just so weird.
I'm doing well.
And she has a lot to do with your success.
Oh, my gosh.
I have seen over the years people married and having a great relationship and they're successful.
Then it doesn't work out.
They go to somebody else and they lose everything.
You know, the man behind the woman and the woman behind the man is both.
It works out both ways.
But I've seen many cases where somebody successful...
And, but with somebody else not successful at all.
I see it with athletes.
Your secret weapon?
Melania.
By the way, she just did number one bestseller book.
Did you see that?
Yeah.
Number one.
She's number one on the list.
New York Times list.
Now, to be number one for Trump, to be number one on the New York Times list is not even believable, right?
You know what you have to go?
She had to be number one by thousands of books, okay?
Because they're pretty tough on that.
No, she's got the number one bestseller, Melania.
Can I ask you a question about your business time in New York?
Wallman Rink.
For those of you who don't know at home, Wallman Rink is an ice skating rink.
The city couldn't fix it for, whatever, 500 years.
Because it's the city in New York.
It was a train wreck.
They come to you.
They say, Mr.
Trump at the time weren't running for president or anything.
You know, can you fix this mess?
You got it done in record time.
I don't even remember.
It was closed for 11 years.
My kids were getting older.
They kept saying, Ivanka...
Daddy, can I go ice skating?
I'm sorry, darling, the rink is under construction.
After saying that for 11 years, you know, for 11 years, it's been under construction for 11 years.
My darling, you're the most beautiful little ice skater, but there goes your career, because you have to start young, and they were building.
So they were building it for 11 years.
They had spent just, you know, numbers that were unbelievable.
They couldn't get it to work.
They were building it wrong.
They had the wrong pipe.
They had the wrong system.
They used a refrigeration company from Miami.
Now, you don't go to Miami for a rink.
You go to Canada.
I went to the Montreal Canadiens.
They came down.
They were very nice.
They came down.
They said, this doesn't work.
You have to use a brine system.
Anyway, they were using a gas system.
They had the wrong everything.
And you know, they'd pour this big 50,000 foot site in little tiny patches.
Right.
So it was all uneven.
You never saw a butcher job like this.
So I took it over.
So it was under construction for 11 years.
I got it done in two and a half months.
Yeah, I remember.
It's a famous story in New York.
I had cement trucks going from the rink back to Harlem, you know, along the park.
And I had 40, 50 trucks standing there, all poured over a two-day period at one time.
You know, they were doing little chunks and then they wouldn't match.
And then they tried to hook up pipes.
The whole thing was the craziest thing.
And the people from the Montreal Canadiens came down and they said, oh, and you remember, they kept sealing the copper pipe.
You know, you'd put pipe in the concrete.
Right.
But every night they'd put the pipe in, the pipe would be gone the next day.
The thieves, because copper is very expensive.
And they said, no, you don't want to use copper, you want to use hose.
And it has to have water in it, warm water, and you have to put salt in the water.
That way it does it.
That's the whole thing.
That was a big factor, you know.
It's called brine.
It's water and salt.
So the salt doesn't let it freeze, right?
And it was great.
And we opened it and I ran it for many years.
And de Blasio came along.
And by the way, I hit him hard last night.
Did you see that?
Were you watching last night?
No, I was traveling up.
So they had the Alfred Smith, Al Smith dinner last night, the big Catholic dinner in the plaza.
It was great.
The Cardinal was there.
Everybody was there.
Kamala skipped out.
Everybody was there but her.
I love your joke about Tampon Tim, by the way, that he didn't show up, but he's telling everyone he's there.
That's right.
He's telling war stories about it right now.
We had a lot of jokes.
It's actually, you're supposed to be a comedian, at least for part of your speech.
No, you were good.
I liked that.
You were pretty funny.
It came out.
It was a great evening.
Let me, I know you're short on time.
Was de Blasio the worst mayor in history?
You know, I think Dinkins was really bad.
I think Dinkins was, I mean, they call them Stinkins.
Dinkins was bad.
I mean, you and I have been through Koch, Dinkins, Beam, Mayors of New York.
Who was the best mayor?
Oh, Giuliani, by far.
I worked as a cop under Giuliani.
I mean, you went into Times Square under Giuliani.
That's actually one of my questions.
You're bad enough yet, New York City.
You know, you and I lived through the Giuliani era.
You go up, you get off the train station in Times Square, you get hit with seven hookers, 20 drug dealers, and three-card Monty guys left and right, right?
Giuliani gets elected.
Mr.
President, you know as well as I do.
You walk through Times Square six months later.
It's a totally different place.
So when people tell me Donald Trump, who grew up in that New York and is committed to changing government...
Can't fix things.
It's too bad.
I say, B.S. It was a thousand times worse than New York.
And Giuliani turned it around like that.
Well, it's getting bad, I will say.
It's getting bad.
Bad things are happening.
And the migrants are making it happen really bad.
Because, you know, we have 100,000 migrants.
Nobody has any idea how many.
And interesting, the mayor said, you know, this is not sustainable.
And I said, he'll be indicted.
And he was indicted.
They indicted him.
This is a bad group.
Same group that we just talked about and it's let's see what happens I mean let's see what happens with it but having a young Rudy at this moment you know a young Rudy because he did he did a great job you saw it this city was a mess this whole place was a mess and within a couple of years it became the safest big city in the world right It was amazing.
It was great for business with you.
He's got to be giving credit for it.
He did a great job.
The question from my audience I got, I put out a poll.
I said, give me some questions for President Trump.
I want to hear what you all have to say.
Personnel.
Your first term, you were new to politics, which was a benefit, but in a little bit has a downside in that you don't know all the players.
You're a business guy.
So people recommended you hires.
You had to get rid of a lot of people.
A lot of them turned out to be turkeys.
And they're concerned the second term that we may have that same problem.
I've told them, I know your team, I know they get it now.
I'm not asking for any names.
I wouldn't dare.
But do you have a set of people now you know you can trust when we get in?
Because we're not going to have a lot of time.
In two years, there could be a midterm issue.
We've got two years to clean this disaster up.
You feel like you've got a roster?
So when I first got elected, Dan, I was only, you probably heard me say this story, but I was there 17 times in Washington, D.C. So I wasn't a Washington person.
I knew really nobody there.
And mostly because I was building a hotel on Pennsylvania Avenue.
And a beautiful hotel.
That I sold to the Waldorf Astoria.
But I did a beautiful job.
But it was mostly for that.
So I was essentially never in Washington.
So I didn't know people.
So I had to rely on people, you know, for big positions.
I'm saying, hey, do you know anybody that can be like this job and that job?
And generally I got it very good.
We had Lighthizer, you know, trade.
We had a lot of good guys.
But we also made some mistakes.
Made mistakes at Attorney General.
Made mistakes.
I made some mistakes.
And I don't really blame myself for it.
You know, they were highly recommended by Rhinos.
And they weren't the right people.
They just weren't the right people.
And there were some other positions too.
Mostly I got it right.
Nobody ever talks about the good.
We had a lot of great people.
But we had some mistakes.
But you fired them.
I fired them.
And here's what happens.
When I fire, because I'm famous or whatever for whatever reason, when I fire them, Immediately, the book companies go to them and they say, oh, we'll give you a book if you say bad things about Trump.
If Bush fired somebody, nobody cares, you know?
If somebody else fired, but immediately, when I fired, they go to, and they write something or they say, like Bolton was a stiff, he was a dumb guy, very stupid guy, but actually, he came in handy because he was a maniac, you know, he always wanted to go to war with people.
Yeah, he wants to bomb everyone.
He wants to bomb everyone.
He wouldn't talk because he was stupid, but What happened, I'd bring him into a room with Putin, and Putin would say, oh shit, Trump wants to go to war.
Because Bolton was with Bush, and they, you know, think of it.
They went into the Middle East, they bombed the hell out of the place, and they left.
You know, it's like, they bombed.
This guy would, he would go, he wanted to bomb anything.
He's a nut job, but he was good for negotiating purposes, but then after a while you get, so you fire him.
And whenever you fire people, generally, if they have an option, now with me they have, most people don't care.
It's like they get fired, but there's nobody to write about the boss.
But if the boss is famous, They could maybe get a book deal.
So, I believe in firing people.
For instance, in Afghanistan, Biden should have fired every general and every person involved in that botched job, moving the soldiers out first.
Everything they did was wrong.
They should have all been fired.
How do you leave the military base first in Bagram?
First of all, they should have used Bagram, and then they dropped Bagram, and China has Bagram right now, and it's an hour...
I was in Bagram.
It's amazing.
So it's...
They left it.
Yeah, they left it.
They didn't even tell the locals.
They should have...
Locals showed up when there was nobody there.
Yeah, my plan was...
I was getting out, but keeping Bagram because of China, because it's an hour away from where they make their nuclear weapons.
So...
Anyway, that's where it is.
That's the saddest story and maybe the most embarrassing story in the history of our country, that whole Afghanistan.
We were getting out, but we were going to get out with dignity and strength, and we were going to get out.
It was going to be great.
We had to get out.
It was 20 years, 21 years.
It was ridiculous.
But we were going to keep Bagram because of China.
We didn't keep it.
Can I ask you a hypothetical on that?
I mean, obviously we can't prove a counterfactual, but you're the president.
Say the 2020 debacle doesn't happen and you're sitting there in the Oval.
I agree, we had to get out of there.
Do you say to them, the Taliban, here's the deal, brothers, we are leaving, but I'm telling you right now, you touch a hair on the head of one of our people, we are going to rain hellfire down...
But I do say that.
We didn't have any soldiers shot after I spoke with Abdul, the leader of the Taliban.
We didn't have any soldier.
Not one soldier for 18 months was killed.
And Biden actually admitted that at a speech a few years ago.
He said, well, I have to say, no soldier's been killed.
We were losing a lot of soldiers over there with Obama.
And I said that if you do it, I don't want to say exactly what I said because it's not appropriate, but I said, you better not shoot our soldiers.
We didn't have one soldier killed, Dan.
Think of it, in 18 months.
And then this horrible thing happened.
They should have left from Bagram, number one, not for that base.
And we lost 13 soldiers.
Yeah.
Many really badly hurt, you know, with the legs and the arms and the whole thing.
We have Americans left behind, yet some very good people left behind, too, that maybe should have come with us.
They had that airlift, which was terrible, with people falling off the planes.
It was so bad.
And we left behind $80 billion worth of equipment.
Biden never recovered from that.
Everybody saw what a loser he was.
Biden is a grossly incompetent man, but here's the bad news.
She's worse.
She is more incompetent than Biden.
Yeah, no, she's horrible.
Can I ask you a really...
I gotta get going.
Oh, I'm sorry.
They're going crazy.
All right.
Folks, I'm sorry we got to wrap it up with the president.
You got a little thing called the campaign coming up and you got to go win.
I want to thank you for your time.
I want to thank you from my audience.
Oh, can I ask you one small favor?
We're going to do election night coverage and I want to do, you know, Franklin Graham, Samaritan's Purse.
So I want to auction off a Donald Trump signed Bongino baseball.
Good.
And give it to Franklin Graham.
Would you be kind enough to sign it on camera?
I would do it.
And that way everybody knows it's real.
I would so deeply.
I'm sorry to put you on the spot, Mr.
President.
I just, I think we could raise a fortune for Franklin Graham.
You like that?
Someone made it.
He's going to have plenty of movement on it.
And we are going to auction this off.
And everything, Franklin Graham, Samaritan's Purse, come in your way.
I know you like Franklin a lot.
He's doing an amazing job.
I just want to make sure everybody knows it's real.