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June 27, 2024 - The Dan Bongino Show
02:06:57
🔴LIVE: Presidential Debate Coverage and Fact Check
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Thank you.
What the hell are...
We got...
60,000 people in the chat.
The show just started.
That's insane.
That's bigger than the primetime demo for CNN on a Friday night.
Thank you all.
You know, I so deeply appreciate your loyalty to the show.
This is just a first for us.
We've never done this live coverage like this of an event so big.
It's only the biggest political event of the year with the exception of one story.
Everyone in the chat knows what it is, right?
Yes, of course, the Twinkies trial up in New York with the fake conviction on the fake crime of Donald Trump.
This is the second biggest story.
But it's definitely the biggest story of the last few weeks.
I got Evita here with me working on her shot now.
I'm going to give you all the best coverage.
We've got a little bit of pre-show here for you, set you up.
Really, again, I'm honored.
I'm really appreciative that you all are here tonight.
And I said I was watching the chat before, chatting with you all.
And some of you are like, wow, it's a long work day.
This isn't like work.
We really enjoy doing this.
I wanted to be here with you tonight.
And if I'm going to watch this thing, it's debate, then I'm going to watch it with you.
A couple quick breaking news stories before the debate.
And I have some pretty unique insight into this.
I've never heard of anything like this before in the five years I was working at the White House for a Republican and Democrat president on the security side.
The White House press pool.
They travel with the press everywhere without wasting a lot of time on it.
It's this crew of people, I don't know, maybe 25 or so.
The members kind of rotate in and out on any given day, but each major media outlet has a seat.
They're the people you see in the Brady press room, okay?
When Corrine Jean-Pierre's giving one of her dopey press conferences, she screws up, okay?
The press pool is being kept out of the event by the White House, folks.
That's a big deal.
I've never seen anything like that.
Ever.
We used to, you know, make a, it's kind of a bad joke, but it was one of the things in the Secret Service we say is they're always on death watch.
The reason the press pool is there all the time around the president, wherever he goes, wherever he goes is in case something happens.
Why the hell was the Biden White House So intent on keeping them out of the debate tonight.
Even the liberal media is losing their minds.
Also, we're going to quickly find out tonight if Big Daddy Joe is enhanced.
Enhanced?
If you know what I mean.
We'll find out quickly.
The first couple answers, if he starts screaming and barking orders and yelling and losing his mind, you can probably guess he had too many cups of coffee, if you know what I mean.
Trying a winky-winky nod, but there's an eyelash driving me crazy.
You can probably see that.
Oh my gosh, we got 62,000.
We just started, this is crazy.
This is so, I think we're like single-handedly breaking rumble tonight.
You guys are unbelievable.
So, are we doing okay here?
Are we like, all right, as long as we're up and running.
We got the best coverage for you tonight.
I got a few clips I want to play for you before the show.
We've got a little bit of time before they get on stage and then we'll watch this thing together right here.
First, this is who we're debating tonight.
Again, you'll know right away if the man's had a couple cups of coffee, if you know what I mean.
This is Biden just about a week and a half ago, totally forgetting his DHS secretary's name while at the White House.
Keep in mind, this is probably one of the top five most important cabinet officials this guy works with.
Here's Biden.
Can't remember his name.
This is the guy we're on stage with tonight.
Check this out.
Thanks to all members of Congress and Homeland Security Secretary.
We can go to her?
I'm not sure you're going to do it.
His name is Alejandro Mayorkas.
He's only the worst EHS secretary we've ever had, but at a minimum you could at least remember his name.
I expect a lot of that tonight.
I expect a lot of mental lapses.
However, as I've said, and I will repeatedly say, do not underestimate the power of Joe Biden.
I want to welcome in my partner in crime tonight, the great Evita Duffy Alfonso.
What does that say?
Love social credit score?
It's a low social credit score.
Low social credit score.
That's what I have.
We all have it in here.
We all do.
We all have horrible, horrific social credit scores.
I'm sorry.
For the first time in a while, because we never do makeup, we had a makeup artist.
We want all out for you guys and ladies tonight.
Evita, you think we'll know right away if Joe's had a couple extra cups of coffee, if you know what I mean?
We always know, right?
I mean, every time that this man does a debate, he's suddenly so much sharper than he usually is, right?
But we know also this is going to be a three-on-one, Dan.
Yes, it is true.
It's going to be a three-on-one.
By the way, you guys have the Tapper thing.
I don't want to go out of order, but the Tapper soundbite.
So Evita just brought up a critical point.
This is not a one-on-one debate, folks.
It's a three-on-one debate, as she just accurately stated.
Who were the other two in the chat?
Yes, that's correct.
Dana Bash and Jake Tapper.
He's debating three people.
If you're expecting some kind of honest moderation of this debate, you've lost your mind.
Here's a quick reminder about the last debate.
Tapper had some unique commentary on him.
The last debate I mean between Biden and Trump.
Obviously in the 2020 election, I haven't had one yet this year.
But this is a real clip.
This was Tapper completely losing his mind over that debate.
You think he's going to give a fair take tonight?
Come on, give me a break.
Check this out.
That was a hot mess inside a dumpster fire inside a train wreck.
That was the worst debate I have ever seen.
In fact, it wasn't even a debate.
It was a disgrace.
And it's primarily because of President Trump.
Who spent the entire time interrupting, not abiding by the rules that he agreed to, lying, maliciously attacking the son of the vice president.
When asked to condemn white supremacists, he brought up the name of a neo-fascist far-right group and said, stand back and stand by.
We'll talk about who won the debate, who lost the debate, but I can tell you one thing for sure.
The American people lost tonight, because that was horrific.
You just took the words out of my mouth.
Avina, the American people loss.
A little dramatic.
I mean, we're expecting this guy and Dana Bass, who, you know, we talked about it the other day on my show.
The ex-husband was one of the signers of the infamous, you know, Hunter Biden laptop Russia footprints nonsense bullshit letter.
We're never going to get an honest debate out of them.
They're going to come in with preconceived liberal notions.
The questions are going to be framed in a way that Donald Trump can't possibly win.
Well, we already know that there's going to be no questions about the Biden crime family, the influence peddling scheme with American foreign adversaries, because Jake Tapper has gone on the record multiple times, right, saying that he's defending the Biden family, that all of this is a conspiracy and a Russia hoax.
CNN has pushed the Russia collusion hoax and also defended the Biden crime family for forever.
So we already know where this is going to go.
Yeah, Tapper's got a big problem tonight during the debate, folks.
Because remember, he's already on the record having discredited the fine people hoax.
He has said that on the show.
But he's not on the record doing a full mea culpa for the collusion thing.
Because his network, as you just said, went all in on that.
They also went all in on the Hunter Biden laptop thing as well, that that was, you know, all the fingerprints and hallmarks of a Russian intelligence operation.
So Tapper's, there's not going to be any easy way for Tapper to correct that without making his network look really stupid.
You know, if Biden goes down that road, I suspect you're going to see right from the jump tonight, all the hoaxes are going to come out.
You'll probably get the find people hoax anyway because CNN is now saying that they're not going to lifetime fact check.
You're probably going to see also the drink bleach hoax as well.
And I said today, Avita, your thoughts on this one?
During the radio show, I brought this up.
CNN's come out and said we're not going to lifetime fact check.
A lot of liberals were like, oh my gosh, this is so crazy.
They're trying to help Trump.
They're not trying to help Trump.
They're trying to help Biden because they know Biden's going to come out with all this bullshit.
This is not about Trump.
This is about not fact-checking Biden.
Inflation was 9%.
All these hoaxes he keeps putting out there.
Your thoughts on that?
I mean, CNN is going to 100% play PR for the Biden...
The other thing is that CNN came out with a statement saying, we're not going to fact check, but we will put out fact checks on the really important things, right?
They said the really important things like the integrity of the 2020 election or anything related to January 6th, right?
That it was an insurrection.
So we're not going to fact check, but we will fact check Trump is essentially what they said in this ridiculous statement.
Yeah, and keep in mind, when they say they're going to fact-check any discussion of the 2020 election, you know this as well as I do.
There is zero chance they're going to fact-check anything any Democrat said about the 2016 election, where to this day, networks like CNN will still insist that the Russians assisted Donald Trump in stealing the 2016 election.
Jake Tapper has repeated time and time again that Trump was an illegitimate president, over and over again.
Yeah, we're not going to get much out of him, no.
Here's what I was talking about before when I said you'll know pretty quickly if this guy's enhanced or not.
He has this habit, Biden.
And if you guys know what...
How do I say this?
If you guys know what a couple extra cups of coffee feel like...
I'm trying to do the winky winky nod nod.
If you know, emotions tend to get heightened.
So with Biden, he has this kind of tick, this emotional response.
He starts to scream, I think, when the cups of coffee have been flowing, if you know what I mean.
You've heard it before.
We be big farmer.
He screams like a maniac.
He does it all the time.
Key, you have the one of Biden screaming in the debate about...
He's not really...
I want you to listen to his elevated tone of voice.
This is one of the Democrat debates.
And listen for the particular change in tone.
He's talking about immigration, how he plans on opening the border for an invasion and everything like that.
And I want you to listen to the change in the volume and the change in tone.
He starts to yell...
This to me is an indicator that this cat's been drinking way too much coffee, if you know what I mean.
And we'll see right away tonight, right when he comes out of the gate.
Check this out.
The fact is that, look, we should not be locking people up.
We should be making sure we change the circumstance as we did, why they would leave in the first place.
And those who come seeking asylum, we should immediately have the capacity to absorb them, keep them safe until they can be heard.
A 15 second, if you could, if you wish to answer, should someone who is here without documents, and that is his only offense.
Should that person be deported?
That person should not be the focus of deportation.
We should fundamentally change the way we deal with things.
So, I mean, listen, obviously he wants to open the border.
I mean, he said it.
That wasn't even the point of that, though.
The point of that is he's got this agitated habit of elevating his voice level whenever, you know, like I said, I believe he's had a few extra cups of coffee, if you know what I mean.
He just, he can't seem to control himself.
He starts to scream.
He starts to yell.
I think we're going to see something like that tonight if Trump can get under his skin.
Now, I don't want to get...
I don't want to give the Democrats any help.
It's too late.
It doesn't matter.
They don't give a shit what I say anyway.
Things starts in a few minutes.
However, I think tonight the best outcome for us is a push.
I think for a lot of reasons.
And a push meaning Trump gets his moment, Biden gets his moment.
And your thoughts on this.
The reason I say that, and I know some of you, if you didn't listen to the radio show today, you may be a little confused by why I would be pushing for a push where basically neither one of them comes out to conclusive victor.
Here's why I think that.
If Trump wins overwhelmingly tonight and just politically whips this guy's ass, we got a problem.
The problem is this.
This guy is the candidate we want to run against.
The Biden-Harris ticket is the shittiest Democrat ticket anywhere.
We could not pick a better ticket to run against.
So if Trump whoops his political ass tonight, that's great, we'll get a bump in the polls.
However, we may lose Biden, okay?
On the other hand, if Biden wins, which is possible, coffee kicks in, whatever it is, The good news, at least for us, is it's only going to be, you know, it's going to be, for us, it may keep Biden in the race because he wins.
The bad news for us is he'll get a temporary bump in the polls.
So I think a push is the best we can hope for.
That way he stays in the race and doesn't whip his ass too bad.
Evita Duffy Alfonso, your thoughts?
Well, listen, I think the worst thing that could possibly happen for us is if The Democrats get smart and say we need a new candidate, right?
That's the worst.
This is what you've been saying the whole time.
It's a possibility that they could replace him with, you said not a Michelle Obama, but another candidate who would be aided by this actually this Murphy v.
Missouri case where the federal government is now telling tech companies to censor speech they don't like.
Good candidate, coupled with the censorship, is bad news for us.
Did you see the Michelle Obama piece?
Any of you guys see that, by the way?
The Michelle Obama piece in Axios?
A piece comes out, and this is everything I've been warning you guys about, so you don't think I'm full of shit, and I'm just making this stuff up.
Peace comes out in Axios.
The gist of it is this.
Michelle Obama is not really like politics and she does not like members of the Biden family because she thinks they, after Hunter divorced the ex-wife, it's a long story that Michelle Obama and the ex-wife were friends.
The Biden team kicked her out.
And apparently the Obama family said that the Biden family, quote, does some strange shit or something like that.
They don't like each other.
So Michelle Obama, yeah, you remember this.
She's not going to be the nominee.
But there's a good chance Hillary Clinton could be the nominee.
And I think that's where they may be going at this point.
I don't see Kamala Harris taking a backseat at this point to anyone but Hillary Clinton.
Your thoughts on that?
Yeah, well, I mean, that would be the rematch of the century, I think.
And it would be, it would a thousand percent be really bad for us.
Hey, I appreciate you guys all hanging out.
I know we're melting servers down right now with all this stuff, Zoe.
Thank you so much.
I promise we're going to get to this debate.
We're going to knock it out.
I'm already working with the...
Rumble crew on it.
I got Paula on it, too.
Hey, Guy, cue up for me, Biden, four more years.
Pause.
Did you know Biden?
Avita, check this out.
So Biden was at a union rally.
It's about a couple months ago.
This is the guy.
Again, this is why we need this guy in the race.
Folks, he's only going to get older.
I don't wish you a will on anyone.
I'm not a freaking masochist, okay?
However, however, Joe Biden is clearly cognitively impaired and has some form of what appears to be a frontal lobe dementia.
So Joe Biden a couple months ago was at this union rally and he's reading from the teleprompter.
And he must be trying for the canine constituency.
He's trying to get Lucy's vote.
I don't know what it is.
He says four more years.
Pause.
Like P-A-W-L. I didn't know that.
I don't know.
Maybe dogs can vote in a Democrat primary.
No idea.
But this is not a joke.
This happened.
Check this out.
Imagine what we can do next.
Four more years.
Four more years! Four more years! Four more years! Four more years! Four more years! Four more years! Four more years! Four more years! Four more years!
Thank you.
I mean, that'd be embarrassingly stupid, and I should quit my job tomorrow if I was doing something so dumb.
However...
It's very possible that CNN will slant the questions.
Here's what I mean.
If they really wanted to do the right thing and they wanted to kind of give each candidate an opportunity to shine, they would ask questions, say the first question would be something they think may hurt Donald Trump.
They may say something like, Donald Trump...
Again, I'm speaking from the...
Who won the 2020 election and why did you support an insurrection or whatever it is?
Bad question, they think, for Donald Trump.
But the next question, if they're interested in doing the right thing, which I have no faith in them at all, but if they were, would be to say, go to Joe Biden and say...
President Biden, your team keeps insisting inflation was 9% when you took office and that the border is under control.
The data doesn't back that up and read off a few numbers and gizmos.
And it gives Biden the opportunity to kind of fight back or stumble.
Now, You know, obviously I'd rather the questions, all of them favor us, but they're not going to do that.
But I've got a bad feeling, Avita, that that's not going to be what happens.
There's going to be a January 6th first, abortion question second.
It's going to be a litany of, you know, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang questions, all designed to intentionally kick Trump right in the nuts and give Biden the opportunity to shine by just spouting bumper sticker talking points.
Well, that's what's going to happen, but not to be too much of an optimist, because I know it's going to be a three-on-one, I think that's where Trump shines.
I think that actually when he's Trump versus the media, he is at his strongest.
That's why people love him.
You just reminded me of something.
Did we play that Trump fires the nuke at Hillary?
Oh, wait, wait.
I should quit right now.
I'm really sorry, folks.
This is totally a shame I did not play this.
Here.
You're right.
This guy, when his back is up against the wall, he always just nails it.
He has this ability to fight off the ropes.
Here's Donald Trump.
He's very quick on his feet.
Remember the 2016 Hillary debate when he fired this bomb at her?
This was one of the best moments.
This is the only moment anybody remembers from that debate.
Check this out.
It's awfully good that someone with the temperament of Donald Trump is not in charge of the law in our country.
Because you'd be in jail.
Secretary Clinton.
Folks, that's all anybody remembers from that debate.
I told you, politics is what?
Folks in the chat, politics are what?
Snapshots and soundbites.
That's it.
That's all everybody remembers.
I was watching today coverage all day.
And they had from the Reagan debate of Ida, the famous, you know, I'm not going to take advantage of Mondale's youth and experience.
They had the moment with Bush checking his watch.
It's all people remember.
Pictures and soundbites.
And I think you're right.
This guy's a fighter off the ropes.
And if it appears, I'm trying to dig deeper into your three-on-one question here or statement because you're right.
Digging a little bit deeper, I think it makes him look like a victim a little bit and a martyr.
You know what I'm saying?
Right?
It does.
It's that outlaw mentality that we talked about.
It's the anti-hero, the guy who's kind of on the sidelines, everybody's up against him, and he prevails anyways.
Americans love figures like that.
I think that's 100% right.
Yeah, Trump feeds off being the perceived underdog.
So I think if it's...
And this is...
I know I'm layering this up and I don't want to make it overly complicated but I think that's why CNN is going to at least put on this kind of mask, this crust, this little patina of authenticity and try to at least ask one or two questions.
I'm not saying they're, you know, I'm not putting them on a moral pedestal, folks.
They're supposed to be doing that.
I'm just saying, I think they realize that too, that if they come out with, say, six or seven straight questions, right, just totally designed to kick Trump in the ass, everybody's going to be like, well, Trump won by default because that was obviously bullshit.
And you're right, he does bounce off the ropes.
And when he's facing those attacks, Trump exudes confidence, right?
People love confidence.
You say snapshots and soundbites.
It really is like a popularity contest.
Like this is a high school student council election.
People love that about Trump.
And when it comes to Trump versus Biden and the popularity contest and the confidence contest, Trump wins every time.
Yeah, Biden always comes off weak and he looks uncertain about himself.
You know, he does that thing.
We've already discussed it before, where he does this yelling and hollering thing.
And it's just cringy and uncomfortable.
And like you said, with Trump, he doesn't need to yell.
He pops the chest out.
He comes out with some quick one-liner.
And all of a sudden, you know, everyone's back on their heels because they don't expect them to be so quick.
You know, I... I think you're right.
So we got about, what, about 20 seconds until the debate starts on this thing, and they're going to go live at 9 o'clock.
It's probably going to be a couple, you know, a minute or so of, I don't know, back and forth kind of bullshit.
I'm not really interested, to be honest with you.
But here's how this is going to work.
Evita and I are going to watch this with you.
We're going to have it up on the screen.
We're going to be doing some fact-checking.
The boys over here are all here, ready to rock and roll.
Some real fact-checking.
Yeah, real facts.
You're not bullshit fact-checking.
We're going to make sure Biden doesn't get away with anything, all right?
And me and Evita, whenever they say something really stupid, the moderators are Biden.
I promise you, we're going to have something to say.
We got it up.
It's not up yet.
So that's what you can expect.
And I'm sure Biden will provide us with numerous opportunities.
I think this is going to be huge with thinking about all the normies that are going to be watching, right?
Because some people, we're always in the media cycle, right?
We're always listening to stuff.
But the people who aren't always in the cycle are going to be paying attention tonight.
And if Biden has a senior moment, this could be really devastating.
Sure.
There are so many people who've never really experienced deep politics, like you and I. I mean, we're all here.
So, you know, we're here every single day talking about politics.
You're making a great point.
A lot of these people really haven't seen these two.
I mean, we assume everybody's following this like you and I are.
They're not.
Most people are just tangentially, at best, involved in politics at all.
They're going to be seeing these two guys go at it tonight.
They're going to see...
The Lion King versus the dementia-ridden CCP money-taking loser.
So I agree.
We'll see what it looks like tomorrow.
But again, I think a push is the best outcome here.
I don't want this guy out of the race.
I just don't.
This is the ticket I want to run against.
I think it's going to be my opinion.
I think it's going to be JD Vance.
Just my opinion.
I don't have any inside information.
I'm pushing for Vivek.
Nobody says it's going to happen, but I want it to be Vivek.
You want Vivek?
That's interesting.
Is this starting now?
Guy, is this thing starting?
Alright, let me hear it.
I want to hear what they have to say.
Before we introduce them, we want to share the rules of the debate with the audience at home.
President Trump will be on the left side of the screen.
President Biden will be appearing on the right.
A coin toss determines their positions.
Each candidate will have two minutes to answer a question and one minute each for responses and rebuttals.
An additional minute for follow-up clarification or response is at the moderator's discretion.
The moderator's discretion, fellas.
For a candidate to speak, his microphone will be turned on.
Wait, did you hear that?
The moderator's discretion?
Who gets to respond?
Oh, I'm sure they're going to use that exclusively to benefit Donald Trump.
At the end of the debate, each candidate will get two minutes for closing statements.
There is no studio audience tonight.
Pre-written notes, props, or contacts with campaign staff are not permitted during the debate.
By accepting our invitation to debate, both candidates and their campaigns agreed to accept these rules.
Now, please welcome the 46th President of the United States, Joe Biden.
Is he going to make it?
Is he going to...
Avita, watch.
Is he going to make it to the desk?
Is he going...
He's there.
Is he...
Ha, ha, ha!
Here.
You should come out like this.
40,000.
Big guy.
Thanks, Donald Trump.
There he is.
The Lion King.
Yeah.
Now, we have no worries about him making it.
I wouldn't even...
They're not going to shake.
Okay.
Gentlemen, thanks so much for being here.
Let's begin the debate and let's start with the issue that voters consistently say, is their top concern the economy?
President Biden, inflation has slowed, but prices remain high.
Since you took office, the price of essentials has increased.
For example, a basket of groceries that cost $100 then now costs more than $120.
And typical home prices have jumped more than 30%.
What do you say to voters who feel they are worse off under your presidency than they were under President Trump?
We've got to take a look at what I was left when I became president and what Mr. Trump left me.
We had an economy that was in freefall.
The pandemic was so badly handled.
Many people were dying.
All he said was, it's not that serious.
Just inject a little bleach into your arm.
It'll be all right.
The economy collapsed.
Oh, my goodness.
What did it take, guys?
What are we, two minutes in?
A bit of bleach?
What we had to do was try to put things back together again.
That's exactly what we began to do.
We created 15,000 new jobs.
We brought out a position where we have 800,000 new manufacturing jobs.
But there's more to be done.
There's more to be done.
Working class people are still in trouble.
I come from Scranton, Pennsylvania.
I come from a household where the kitchen table, if things weren't able to be met during the month, it was a problem.
The price of eggs, the price of gas, the price of a whole range of things.
That's why I'm working so hard to make sure I deal with those problems.
And we're going to make sure that we reduce the price of housing.
We're going to make sure we build 2 million new units.
So we're going to make sure we can't rent.
Two minutes in, we got the bleach hoax already?
So I'm trying to keep track.
It's going to hoax counter.
The reason why we're in this problem right now.
In addition to that, we're in a situation where...
We need to keep track of the hoaxes, okay?
The hoaxes we got bleach.
He didn't do much at all.
By the time he left, things were in chaos.
Literally chaos.
And so we put things back together.
We created, I said, those jobs.
We make sure we had a situation where now the price of prescription drugs, which is a major issue for many people, to $15 for For an insulin shot, as opposed to $400.
No senior has to pay more than $200 for any drug, all the drugs they could include beginning next year.
And the situation is making, and we're going to make that available to everybody, to all Americans.
So we're working to bring down the price around the kitchen table.
And that's what we're going to get done.
Thank you.
President Trump?
We have the greatest economy in the history of our country.
We have never done so well.
Everybody was amazed by it.
Other countries were copying us.
We got hit with COVID.
And when we did, we spent the money necessary.
So we wouldn't end up in a Great Depression, the likes of which we had in 1929 by the time we finished.
So we did a great job.
We got a lot of credit for the economy, a lot of credit for the military and no wars and so many other things.
Everything was rocking good.
But the thing we never got the credit for and we should have is getting us out of that covid mess.
He created mandates.
That was a disaster for our country.
But other than that, we had given them back a country where the stock market actually was higher than pre-COVID, and nobody thought that was even possible.
The only jobs he created are for illegal immigrants and bounce-back jobs, a bounce-back from the COVID. He has not done a good job.
He's done a poor job, and inflation's killing our country.
It is absolutely killing us.
Thank you.
President Biden?
Look, the greatest economy in the world.
He's the only one who thinks that, I think.
I don't know anybody else who thinks he had the greatest economy in the world.
You know, the fact of the matter is that we pride ourselves in a situation where his economy, he rewarded the wealthy.
He had the largest tax cut in American history, $2 trillion.
He raised a deficit larger than any president has in any one term.
He's the only president other than Herbert Hoover, who's lost more jobs than he had when he began, since Herbert Hoover.
The idea that he did something that was significant in the military.
You know, when he was president, they were still killing people in Afghanistan.
He didn't do anything about that.
When he was president, we still found ourselves in a position where you had a notion that we were this safe country.
Truth is, I'm the only president this century that doesn't have any, this decade, any troops dying anywhere in the world like he did.
President Trump, I want to follow up if I can.
Am I allowed to respond to him?
Well, I'm going to ask you a follow-up.
You can do whatever you want with the minute that we give you.
I want to follow up.
You want to impose a 10% tariff on all goods coming into the US. How will you ensure that that doesn't drive prices even higher?
It's not going to drive them higher.
It's just going to cause countries that have been ripping us off for years like China and many others, in all fairness to China.
It's going to just force them to pay us a lot of money, reduce our deficit tremendously and give us a lot of power for other things.
But he made a statement.
The only thing he was right about is I gave you the largest tax cut in history.
I also gave you the largest regulation cut in history.
That's why we had all the jobs and the jobs went down and they bounced back.
And he's taking credit for bounce back jobs.
You can't do that.
He also said he inherited 9% inflation.
Now, he inherited almost no inflation.
for 14 months.
And then it blew up under his leadership because they spent money like a bunch of people that didn't know what they were doing.
And they don't know what they were doing.
It was the worst, probably the worst administration in history.
There's never been Afghanistan.
Afghanistan is concerned.
I was getting out of Afghanistan.
We're getting out with dignity, with strength, with power.
He got out.
It was the most embarrassing day in the history of our country's life.
President Trump, over the last eight years, under both of your administrations, the national debt soared to record highs.
And according to a new nonpartisan analysis, President Trump, your administration approved $8.4 trillion in new debt.
Well, so far, President Biden, you've approved $4.3 trillion in new debt.
So, former President Trump, many of the tax cuts that you signed into law are set to expire next year.
Oh, here we go with the bullshit.
Tax cuts cause deficits bullshit.
Liberal bullshit alert!
Why should top earners and corporations pay even less in taxes than they do now?
Because the tax cuts spurred the greatest economy that we've ever seen just prior to COVID. And even after COVID, it was so strong that we were able to get through COVID much better than just about any other country.
But we spurred, that tax spurred.
Now, when we cut the taxes, as an example, the corporate tax was cut down to 21% from 39% plus beyond that.
We took in more revenue with much less tax, and companies were bringing back trillions of dollars back into our country.
The country was going like never before, and we were ready to start paying down debt.
We were ready to start using the liquid gold right under our feet, the oil and gas right under our feet.
We were going to have something that nobody else has had.
We got hit with COVID. We did a lot to fix it.
I gave him an unbelievable situation with all of the therapeutics and all of the things that we came up with.
We gave him something great.
Remember, more people died under his administration, even though we had largely fixed it.
More people died under his administration than our administration, and we were right in the middle of it.
Something which a lot of people don't like to talk about.
But he had far more people dying in his administration.
He did the mandate, which is a disaster, mandating it.
The vaccine went out.
He did a mandate on the vaccine, which is the thing that people most objected to about the vaccine.
And he did a very poor job, just a very poor job.
And I will tell you, not only poor there, but throughout the entire world, we're no longer respected as a country.
They don't respect our leadership.
They don't respect the United States anymore.
We're like a third world nation between weaponization of his election, trying to go after his political opponent.
All of the things he's done, we've become like a third world nation.
And it's a shame.
The damage he's done to our country, and I'd love to ask him and Will why he allowed millions of people to come in here from prisons, jails, and mental institutions to come into our country and destroy our country.
Yes, they most certainly are.
I want to give you an opportunity to respond to this question about the national debt.
He had the largest national debt of any president in a four-year period, number one.
Number two, that $2 trillion tax cut benefited the very wealthy.
What I'm going to do is fix the tax system.
For example, we have 1,000 trillionaires in America.
I mean, billionaires in America.
And what's happening?
They're in a situation where they, in fact, pay 8.2% in taxes.
If they just paid 24%, 25%, either one of those numbers, they'd raise $500 million, billion dollars, I should say, in a 10-year period.
$500 million.
Wipe out his debt.
We'd be able to help make sure that all those things we need to do, childcare.
He can't keep his millions, trillions, and billions straight.
It's just in our healthcare system, making sure that we're able to make every single solitary person eligible for what I've been able to do with the COVID, excuse me, with dealing with everything we have to do with, look, if...
Buffering, buffering.
Medicare.
Thank you, President Biden.
President Trump.
By the way, you think CNN has enough branding in this key?
It's a death that it's destroying my campus.
Because all of these people are coming in.
They're putting them on Medicare.
They're putting them on Social Security.
They're going to destroy Social Security.
This man is going to single-handedly destroy Social Security.
These millions and millions of people coming in, they're trying to put them on Social Security.
He will wipe out Social Security.
He will wipe out Medicare.
So he was right in the way he finished that sentence.
And it's a shame.
What's happened to our country In the last four years is not to be believed.
Foreign countries, I'm friends with a lot of people, they cannot believe what happened to the United States of America.
We're no longer respected.
They don't like us.
We give them everything they want and they think we're stupid.
They think we're very stupid people.
Did you see that?
He did, didn't he?
But this is absolutely criminal.
Thank you, President Trump.
This is the first presidential election since the Supreme Court overturned Roe v.
Wade.
Here we go.
The Supreme Court ruled on yet another abortion case, temporarily allowing emergency abortions to continue in Idaho, despite that state's restrictive ban.
All Dems are running on is killing kids.
...the decision to overturn Roe v.
Wade, which returned the issue of abortion to the states.
Correct.
The federal government still plays a role in whether or not women have access to abortion pills.
They're used in about two-thirds of all abortions.
As president, would you block abortion medication?
First of all, the Supreme Court just approved the abortion pill, and I agree with their decision to have done that, and I will not block it.
And if you look at this whole question that you're asking, a complex but not really complex.
51 years ago, you had Roe v.
Wade and everybody wanted to get it back to the states.
Everybody, without exception.
Democrats, Republicans, liberals, conservatives.
Everybody wanted it back.
Religious leaders.
And what I did is I put three great Supreme Court justices on the court and they happened to vote in favor of killing Roe v. Wade and moving it back to the states.
This is something that everybody wanted.
Now, 10 years ago or so, they started talking about how many weeks and how many of this getting into other things.
But every legal scholar throughout the world.
The most respected.
Wanted it brought back to the states.
I did that.
Now the states are working it out.
If you look at Ohio, it was a decision that was an end result.
It was a little bit more liberal than you would have thought.
Kansas, I would say the same thing.
Texas is different.
Florida is different.
But they're all making their own decisions right now.
And right now, the states control it.
That's the vote of the people.
Like Ronald Reagan, I believe in the exceptions.
I am a person that believes.
And frankly, I think it's important to believe in the exceptions.
Some people, you have to follow your heart.
Some people don't believe in that.
But I believe in the exceptions for rape incest and the life of the mother.
I think it's very important.
Some people don't follow your heart, but you have to get elected also.
And because that has to do with other things, you got to get elected.
The problem they have is they're radical because they will...
Yes, focus on them.
In the eighth month, the ninth month, and even after birth.
After birth, if you look at the former governor of Virginia, he was willing to do this.
He said, we'll put the baby aside and we'll determine what we do with the baby, meaning we'll kill the baby.
What happened is we brought it back to the states and the country is now coming together on this issue.
It's been a great thing.
Thank you, President Biden.
He's doing great.
Am I being...
Am I crazy?
The vast majority of...
Biden sounds like he's dying.
The contrast in their voices is immense.
That was...
They're always doing really good.
No, he is.
He's doing great.
This is the guy who says the state should be able to have it.
We're in a state where in six weeks, you don't even know whether you're pregnant or not, but you cannot see a doctor have your...
And have him decide on what your circumstances are when you need help.
The idea that states are able to do this is a little like saying, we're going to turn civil rights back to the states.
Let each state have a different rule.
Look, there's so many young women who have been, including a young woman who just was murdered, and he went to the funeral.
Abortion is murder.
That's what we're ending.
What is exactly what you think abortion is?
By an immigrant coming in to talk about that.
Here's the deal.
There's a lot of young women who are being raped by their in-laws, by their spouses, brothers and sisters.
It's just ridiculous.
And they can do nothing about it.
Even Trump looks confused.
Thank you.
Raped by their in-laws?
Many young women murdered by the same people he allows to come across our border.
Great point.
Wow.
Anywhere in the world.
Consider the most dangerous place anywhere in the world.
And he opened it up and these killers are coming into our country.
And they are raping and killing women.
And it's a terrible thing.
As far as the abortion is concerned, it is now back with the states.
The states are voting.
In many cases, it's frankly a very liberal decision.
In many cases, it's the opposite.
But they're voting, and it's bringing it back to the vote of the people, which is what everybody wanted, including the founders, if they knew about this issue, which, frankly, they didn't.
But everybody wanted it brought back.
Ronald Reagan wanted it brought back.
He wasn't able to get it.
Everybody wanted it brought back, and many presidents had tried to get it back.
I was the one to do it.
And again, this gives it the vote of the people, and that's where they wanted it.
Every legal scholar wanted it that way.
Staying on the topic of abortion, President Biden, seven states...
I'll let you do that.
This is the same topic.
Seven states have no legal restrictions on how far into a pregnancy a woman can obtain an abortion.
Do you support any legal limits on how late a woman should be able to terminate a pregnancy?
I support Roe v.
Wade.
Oh, he won't answer.
Yep.
Time is between the woman and the doctor.
Second time is between the doctor and an extreme situation.
A third time is between the doctor, I mean, between the woman and the state.
The idea that the politicians, that the founders wanted the politicians to be the ones making decisions.
That means he supports no restrictions.
That's the last one.
No politician should be making that decision.
A doctor should be making that decision.
Up until birth.
That's what Democrats support.
That's what you're going to do.
And if I'm elected, I'm going to restore.
They actually believe, some of them actually believe that.
Real infanticide.
In the ninth and even after birth, because some states, Democrat run, take it after birth.
Again, the governor, former governor of Kenya.
Put the baby down, then we decide what to do with it.
So he's willing to, as we say, rip the baby out of the womb in the ninth month and kill the baby.
Nobody wants that to happen, Democrat or Republican.
Nobody wants it to happen.
That is simply not true.
The Roe v.
Wade does not provide for that.
No, you support that, sir.
You see, I was trying to flip it around.
Yeah.
But we are not for late-term abortion, period.
Period, period.
Roe v.
Wade, you have late-term abortion.
You can do whatever you want, depending on the state.
You can do whatever you want.
We don't think that's a good thing.
We think it's a radical thing.
We think the Democrats are the radicals, not the Republicans.
For 51 years, that was the law.
51 years.
51 years, Constance of Scholarship said it was the right way to go.
51 years, and it was taken away because this guy put very conservative members on the Supreme Court.
He takes credit for taking it away.
What's he going to do?
What's he going to do, in fact, if the MAGA Republicans, he gets elected, and the MAGA Republicans control the Congress, and they pass a universal ban on abortion, period, across the board.
That would be awesome.
Something very, very conservative.
He's trying to sell us on Trump.
I'll veto it.
Thank you.
Let's turn now to the issue of immigration and border security.
President Biden, a record number of migrants have illegally crossed the southern border under watch.
Overwhelming border states and overburdening cities such as New York and Chicago, and in some cases causing real safety and security concerns.
I've got to say, at least so far, the questions have not been overly leftist.
Starting out with the economy was a good move.
It was.
Not only...
Changed all of that.
We made sure that we are in a situation where you had no circumstance where they could come across the border with the number of border police there are now.
We significantly increased the number of asylum officers.
By the way, the Border Patrol endorsed me, endorsed my position.
In addition to that, we found ourselves in a situation where when he was present, he was taking, separating babies from their mothers, putting them in cages, making sure that the families were separated.
That's not the right way to go.
What I've done since I've changed the law, what's happened?
I've changed it in a way that now you're in a situation where there are 40% fewer people coming across the border illegally.
It's better than when he left office.
And I'm going to continue to move until we get the total ban on the total initiative relative to what we get to.
More Border Patrol and more asylum officers.
President Trump?
I really don't know what he said at the end of this sentence.
Oh!
We had the safest border in the history of our country.
We decided to open up our border, open up our country to people that are from prisons, people that are from mental institutions, insane asylum, terrorists.
It looks like he needs to be in a mental institution.
All terrorists, all over the world, not just in South America, all over the world.
They come from the Middle East, everywhere.
All over the world, they're pouring in.
And this guy just left it open.
And he didn't need legislation because I didn't have legislation.
I said, close the border.
We had the safest border in history.
In that final couple of months of my presidency, we had, according to Border Patrol, who is great, and by the way, who endorsed me for president, but I won't say that, but they endorsed me for president.
Brandon, just do them.
But look, we had the safest border in history.
Now we have the worst border in history.
There's never been anything like it.
And people are dying all over the place, including the people that are coming up.
Thank you, President Trump.
President Biden?
The only terrorist who's done anything across the border is one who came along and killed three under his administration, killed an al-Qaeda person coming in and his administration, killed three American soldiers, killed three American soldiers.
That's the only terrorist that's there.
I'm not saying no terrorist ever got through with the idea they're emptying their prisons.
We're welcoming these people.
That's simply not true.
There's no data to support what he said.
Once again, he's lying.
President Trump, staying on the topic of immigration, you've said that you're going to carry out, quote, the largest domestic deportation operation in American history, unquote.
Does that mean that you will deport every undocumented immigrant in America, including those who have jobs, including those whose spouses are citizens, and including those who have lived here for decades?
And if so, how will you do it?
Just one second.
He said we killed three people.
The people we killed are al-Baghdadi and Salameni, the two greatest terrorists, biggest terrorists anywhere in the world.
And it had a huge impact on everything, not just border, on everything.
Oh, my God.
He's the one to kill people with the bad water, including hundreds of thousands of people dying and also killing our citizens when they come in.
The Botox are distorting his face.
In a rat's nest.
They're killing our people in New York, in California, in every state in the union because we don't have borders anymore.
Every state is now a border.
And because of his ridiculous, insane and very stupid policies, people are coming in and they're killing our citizens at a level that we've never seen it.
We call it migrant crime.
I call it Biden migrant crime.
They're killing our citizens at a level that we've never seen before.
And you're reading it like these three incredible young girls over the last few days.
One of them, I just spoke to the mother, and she just had the funeral for this girl, 12 years old.
This is horrible what's taking place.
What's taking place in our country, we're literally An uncivilized country now.
He doesn't want it to be.
He just doesn't know.
He opened the borders.
Nobody's ever seen anything like and we have to get a lot of these people out and we have to get them out fast because they're going to destroy our country.
Just take a look at where they're living.
They're living in luxury hotels in New York City and other places.
Our veterans are on the street.
They're dying because he doesn't care about our veterans.
He doesn't care.
He doesn't like the military at all.
And he doesn't care about our veterans.
Nobody had been worse.
I had the highest approval rating for veterans taking care of the VA. He is the worst.
He's gotten rid of all the things that I approved.
Choice that I got through Congress.
All of the different things I approved.
They abandoned.
We had by far the highest, and now it's down in less than half because he's done all these great things that we did.
And I think he did it just because I approved it, which is crazy.
But he has killed so many people at our border by allowing all of these people to come in.
And it's a very sad day in America.
President Biden, you have the mic.
Every single thing he said is a lie.
Every single one.
For example, veterans are a hell of a lot better off since I got One million of them now have insurance and their families have it.
Their families have it because what happened, whether it was Agent Orange or burn pits, they're all being covered now.
And his group opposed that.
We're also in a situation where we have great respect for veterans.
My son spent a year in Iraq living next to one of those burn pits, came back with stage four glioblastoma.
I was recently in France for D-Day.
And I spoke to all about those heroes that died.
I went to the World War II cemetery.
World War I cemetery he refused to go to.
He was standing with his four-star general.
And he told me, he said, I don't want to go in there because they're a bunch of losers and suckers.
Oh, here he goes.
I'm not a loser, I'm not a sucker.
You're the sucker.
You're the loser.
I'm trying to keep track of the hope.
President Trump?
First of all, that was a made-up quote.
Suckers and losers.
They made it up.
It was in a third-rate magazine that's failing, like many of these magazines.
He made that up.
He put it in commercials.
We've notified them.
We had 19 people that said I didn't say it.
And think of this.
Who would say I'm at a cemetery or I'm talking about our veterans?
Because nobody's taking better care.
I'm so glad this came up.
And he brought it up.
There's nobody that's taking better care of our soldiers than I have.
I think that I would, in front of generals and others, say suckers and losers.
We have 19 people that said it was never said by me.
It was made up by him, just like Russia, Russia, Russia was made up, just like the 51 intelligence agents are made up.
Just like the new thing with the 16 economists are talking, it's the same thing.
51 intelligence agents said that the laptop was Russia disinformation.
It wasn't.
That came from his son, Hunter.
It wasn't Russia disinformation.
He made up the suckers and losers, so he should apologize to me right now.
That's right.
Demanded apology.
Staff, we said you said it.
Period.
That's number one.
And number two, the idea, the idea that I have to apologize to you for anything along the line.
We've done more for veterans than any president has in American history.
American history.
And they now are in their family.
The only sacred obligation we have as a country is to care for our veterans when they come home and their families and equip them when they go to war.
That's what we're doing.
That's what the VA is doing now.
They're doing more for veterans than ever before in our history.
All right.
Thank you so much.
Topic of foreign policy.
I want to begin with Russia's war against Ukraine, which is now in its third year.
Former President Trump, Russian President Vladimir Putin says he'll only end this war if Russia keeps the Ukrainian territory it has already claimed and Ukraine abandons its bid to join NATO. Are Putin's terms acceptable to you?
First of all, our veterans and our soldiers can't stand this guy.
They can't stand him.
They think he's the worst commander in chief, if that's what you call him, that we've ever had.
They can't stand him.
So let's get that straight.
And they like me more than just about any of them.
And that's based on every single bit of information.
As far as Russia and Ukraine, if we had a real president, the president that knew, that was respected by Putin, he would have never, he would have never invaded Ukraine.
A lot of people are dead right now, much more than people know.
You know, they talk about numbers.
You can double those numbers, maybe triple those numbers.
He did nothing to stop it.
In fact, I think he encouraged Russia from going in.
I'll tell you what happened.
He was so bad with Afghanistan, it was such a horrible embarrassment, most embarrassing moment in the history of our country, that when Putin watched that and he saw the incompetence that he should have fired those generals like I fired the one that you mentioned, And so he's got no love lost, but he should have fired those generals.
No general got fired for the most embarrassing moment in the history of our country, Afghanistan, where we left billions of dollars of equipment behind.
We lost 13 beautiful soldiers and 38 soldiers were obliterated.
And by the way, we left people behind, too.
We left American citizens behind.
When Putin saw that, he said, you know what?
I think we're going to go in and maybe take my...
This was his dream.
I talked to him about it, his dream.
The difference is he never would have invaded Ukraine.
Never.
Just like Israel would have never been invaded in a million years by Hamas.
You know why?
Because Iran was broke with me.
I wouldn't let anybody do business with them.
They ran out of money.
They were broke.
They had no money for Hamas.
They had no money for anything.
No money for terror.
That's why you had no terror at all during my administration.
This place, the whole world is blowing up under him.
President Biden?
Sharp, right?
Never heard so much malarkey in my book.
The fact of the matter is that we're in a situation where, let's take the last point first.
Iran attacked American troops, caused brain damage for a number of these troops, and he did nothing about it.
When he was president, they were attacked.
He said they're just having headaches.
That's all it is.
He didn't do a thing when the attack took place, number one.
Number two, We got over 100,000 Americans and others out of Afghanistan during that airlift.
Number three, we found ourselves in a situation where if you take a look at what Trump did in Ukraine, this guy told Trump, do whatever you want and do whatever you want.
And that's exactly what Trump did.
To Putin, encourage him.
Do whatever you want.
And he went in.
And listen to what he said when he went in.
He was going to take Kiev in five days, remember?
Because it's part of the old Soviet Union.
That's what he wanted to reestablish.
Kiev.
And he, in fact, didn't do it at all.
He wasn't able to get it done.
And they've lost thousands and thousands of troops.
500,000 troops.
Thank you.
President Trump, if I come back to you for one minute, I just want to go back to my original question, which is, are Putin's terms acceptable to you, keeping the territory in Ukraine?
No, they're not acceptable.
But look, this is a war that never should have started.
If we had a leader in this war, he led everybody along.
He's given $200 billion now or more to Ukraine.
He's given $200 billion.
That's a lot of money.
I don't think there's ever been anything like it.
Every time that Zelensky comes to this country.
He walks away with $60 million.
He's the greatest salesman.
And I'm not knocking him.
I'm not knocking anything.
I'm only saying the money that we're spending on this war...
And we shouldn't be spending.
It should have never happened.
I will have that war settled between Putin and Zelensky as president-elect before I take office on January 20th.
I'll have that war settled.
People being killed so needlessly, so stupidly, and I will get it settled and I'll get it settled fast before I take office.
President Biden, you have a minute.
The fact is that Putin is a war criminal.
He's killed thousands and thousands of people.
And he has made one thing clear.
He wants to reestablish what was part of the Soviet Empire, not just a peace.
He wants all of Ukraine.
That's what he wants.
And then you think he'll stop there?
Do you think he'll stop when he, if he takes Ukraine?
What do you think happens to the Pole?
What do you think of Belarus?
What do you think happens to those NATO countries?
And so if you want a war, you ought to find out what he's going to do, because if in fact he does what he says and walks away, by the way, All that money we give Ukraine, weapons we make here in the United States, we give them the weapons, not the money at this point.
And our NATO allies have produced as much funding for Ukraine as we have.
That's why we're strong.
Thank you.
Moving on to the Middle East.
In October, Hamas attacked Israel, killing more than a thousand people and taking hundreds of hostages.
Among those held and thought to still be alive are five Americans.
Israel's response has killed thousands of Palestinians and created a humanitarian crisis in Gaza.
President Biden, you've put forward a proposal to resolve this conflict, but so far Hamas has not released the remaining hostages, and Israel is continuing its military offensive in Gaza.
So what additional leverage will you use to get Hamas and Israel to end the war?
You have two minutes.
Number one.
Everyone from the United Nations Security Council, straight through to the G7, to the Israelis and Netanyahu himself have endorsed the plan I put forward, which has three stages to it.
The first stage is to trade the hostages for a ceasefire.
The second phase is a ceasefire with additional conditions.
The third phase is the end of the war.
The only one who wants the war to continue is Hamas.
Number one.
They're the only ones standing out.
We're still pushing hard to get them to accept.
In the meantime, what's happened?
In Israel, the only thing I've denied Israel was 2,000-pound bombs.
They don't work very well in populated areas.
They kill a lot of innocent people.
We're providing Israel with all the weapons they need and when they need them.
And by the way, I'm the guy who organized the world against Iran when they had a full bone.
Whether you agree with it or not, he's bullshitting.
No one was hurt.
One Israeli was accidentally killed, and it stopped.
We saved Israel.
We are the biggest producer of support for Israel of anyone in the world.
And so there are two different things.
Hamas cannot be allowed to be continued.
We continue to send our experts and our intelligence people as to how they can get Hamas like we did Bin Laden.
They don't have to do it.
And by the way, they've been greatly weakened Hamas, greatly weakened, and they should be.
They should be eliminated.
But you've got to be careful for using certain weapons among population centers.
Let's go back to Ukraine for one second.
We have an ocean separating us.
The European nations together have spent a hundred billion or maybe more than that, less than us.
Why doesn't he call them so you got to put up your money like I did with NATO? I got them to put up hundreds of billions of dollars.
The secretary general of NATO said Trump did the most incredible job I've ever seen.
They were going out of business.
We were spending almost a hundred percent of the money was paid by us.
He didn't do that.
He's getting old.
You got to ask these people to put up the money.
We're over $100 billion more spent and it has a bigger impact on them because of location, because we have an ocean in between.
You got to ask them as far as Israel and Hamas.
Israel's the one that wants to go.
He said the only one who wants to keep going is Hamas.
Actually, Israel is the one.
And you should let him go and let him finish the job.
He doesn't want to do it.
He's become like a Palestinian, but they don't like him because he's a very bad Palestinian.
He's a weak one.
President Biden, do you have a minute?
I've never heard so much foolishness.
This is a guy who wants to get out of NATO. Are you going to stay in NATO? He's going to pull out of NATO. The idea that we have our strength lies in our alliances as well.
It may be a big ocean, but are we ever able to avoid a war in Europe, a major war in Europe?
What happens if, in fact, you have Putin continue to go into NATO? We have an Article 5 agreement.
Attack on one is attack on all.
Continuing this war, you're threatening Europe.
talking about go ahead let putin go in and control ukraine and then move on to poland and other places see what happens then he has no idea what tell he's talking about and by the way i got 50 other nations around the world to support ukraine including japan and south korea because they understand that this is kind of as a serious threat to the whole world peace he's threatening nuclear war with the way he's running this country
President Trump, just to follow up.
Would you support the creation of an independent Palestinian state in order to achieve peace in the region?
I'd have to see.
But before we do that, the problem we have is that we spend all the money.
So they kill us on trade.
I made great trade deals with the European nations.
Because if you add them up, they're about the same size economically.
Their economy is about the same size as the United States.
And they were no cars.
No, they don't want anything that we have.
But we're supposed to take their cars, their food, their everything, their agriculture.
I changed that.
But the big thing I changed is they don't want to pay.
And the only reason that he can play games with NATO is because I got them to put up hundreds of billions of dollars.
I said, and he's right about this.
I said, no, I'm not going to support NATO if you don't pay.
They asked me that question.
Would you guard us against Russia at a very secret meeting of the 28 states at that time, nations at that time?
And they said, no, if you don't pay, I won't do that.
And you know what happened?
Billions and billions of dollars came flowing in the next day and the next months.
But now we're in the same position.
We're paying everybody's bills.
Let's turn to the issue of democracy.
Former President Trump, I want to ask you about this in 2021. After you rallied your supporters that day, some of them stormed the Capitol to stop the constitutionally mandated counting of electoral votes.
As president, you swore an oath to, quote, preserve, protect, and defend, unquote, the Constitution.
What do you say to voters who believe that you violated that oath through your actions and inaction on January 6th and worry that you'll do it again?
Well, I don't think too many believe that.
And let me tell you about January 6th.
On January 6th, we had a great border.
Nobody coming through, very few.
On January 6th, we were energy independent.
On January 6th, we had the lowest taxes ever.
We had the lowest regulations ever.
On January 6th, we were respected all over the world.
All over the world, we were respected.
And then he comes in, and we're now left at.
We're like a bunch of stupid people.
What happened to the United States' reputation under this man's leadership Is horrible, including weaponization, which I'm sure at some point you'll be talking about, where he goes after his political opponent because he can't beat him fair and square.
You have 80 seconds left.
My question was, what do you say to those voters who believe that you violated your constitutional oath through your actions and inaction on January 6th and worry that you'll do it again?
Well, I didn't say that to anybody.
I said peacefully and patriotically.
And Nancy Pelosi, if you just watched the news from two days ago, on tape to her daughter, who is a documentary filmmaker, what they say, But she's saying, oh no, it's my responsibility.
I was responsible for this.
Because I offered her 10,000 soldiers or National Guard, and she turned them down.
And the mayor of, in writing, by the way, the mayor, in writing, turned it down.
the mayor of of D.C.
They turned it down.
I offered 10,000 because I could see I had virtually nothing to do.
They asked me to go make a speech.
I could see what was happening.
Everybody was saying they're going to be there on January 6th.
They're going to be there.
And I said, you know what?
There's a lot of people coming.
You could feel it.
You could feel it, too.
And you could feel it.
And I said, they ought to have some National Guard or whatever.
And I offered it to her.
And she now admits that she turned it down.
And it was the same day she was, I don't know, you can't be very happy with her daughter because it made her into a liar.
She said, I take full responsibility for January 6th.
President Biden?
Look, he encouraged those folks who were up at Capitol Hill, number one.
I sat in the dining room off the Oval Office.
He sat there for three hours.
Three hours watching, begging, being begged by his vice president and a number of his colleagues on the Republican side as well to do something, to call for a stop, to end it.
Instead, he talked about these people being patriots and great patrons of America.
In fact, he says he'll not forgive them for what they've done.
They've been convicted.
He says he wants to commute their sentences and say that no.
He went to every single court in the nation.
I don't know how many cases, scores of cases, including the Supreme Court.
And they said, no, no.
This guy is responsible for doing what was done.
He didn't do a damn thing.
And these people should be in jail.
And they should be the ones that are being held accountable.
And he wants to let them all out.
And now he says if he loses again, such a whiner that he is, that there could be a bloodbath.
Thank you, President Biden.
What they've done to some people that are so innocent, you ought to be ashamed of yourself.
What you have done, how you've destroyed the lives of so many people.
When they rip down Portland, when they rip down many other cities, you go to Minnesota, Minneapolis, what they've done there, with the fires all over the city, if I didn't bring in the National Guard, that city would have been destroyed.
When you look at all of the They took over big chunks.
CNN, fiery but mostly peaceful.
They heard that, they saw them coming, and they left immediately.
What he said about this whole subject is so off, peacefully patriotic.
One other thing, the unselect committee, which is basically two horrible Republicans that are all gone now, out of office, and Democrats, all Democrats, they destroyed and deleted all of the information they found because they found out we were right.
We were right.
And they deleted and destroyed all of the information.
They should go to jail for that.
If a Republican did that, they'd go to jail.
Thank you, President Trump.
President Biden, I want to give you a minute.
The only person on this stage is a convicted felon is the man I'm looking at right now.
The fact of the matter is, what he's telling you is simply not true.
The fact is that there was no effort on his part to stop what was going on up in Capitol Hill.
And all those people, every one of those who were convicted, deserves to be convicted.
The idea that they didn't kill somebody, just went in and broke down doors, broke the windows, occupied offices, turned over desks, Turn them over statues.
The idea that those people are patriots?
Come on.
When I asked him the first two debates we had, the debates we had the first time around, I said, will you denounce the Proud Boys?
He said, no, I'll tell them to stand by.
The idea he's refusing, will you denounce these guys?
Will you denounce the people we're talking about now?
Will you denounce the people who attacked that Capitol?
What are you going to do?
I'm going to give you a minute, President Trump, for a follow-up question I have.
After a jury convicted you of 34 felonies last month, you said if re-elected, you would, quote, have every right to go after, unquote, your political opponents.
You just talked about members of the Select Committee on January 6th going to jail.
Your main political opponent is standing on stage with you tonight.
Can you clarify exactly what it means about you feeling you have every right to go after your political opponents?
Well, I said my retribution is going to be success.
We're going to make this country successful again, because right now it's a failing nation.
My retribution is going to be a success.
But when he talks about a convicted felon, his son is a convicted felon at a very high level.
His son is convicted, going to be convicted probably numerous other times.
Should have been convicted before, but his Justice Department let the statute of limitations lapse on the most important things.
But he could be a convicted felon as soon as he gets out of office.
Joe could be a convicted felon.
things that he's done yes things all of the death caused at the the border uh telling the ukrainian people that we're going to want a billion dollars you change the prosecutor otherwise you're not getting a billion dollars if i ever said that that's quid pro quo that we're not going to do anything we're not going to give you a billion dollars unless you change your prosecutor having to do with the sun this man is a criminal This man...
You're lucky.
You're lucky.
I did nothing wrong.
We'd have a system that was rigged and disgusting.
I did nothing wrong.
Thank you, President Trump.
President Biden, you have said...
I'm coming right to you, sir.
Well, you want to respond?
Go ahead.
I'll give you a minute to respond.
The idea...
That I did anything wrong relative to what you're talking about is outrageous.
Oh, shut your mouth, you clown.
Number two, the idea that you have a right to seek retribution against any American just because you're president- He's seeking retribution against Trump.
Right now.
What a bullshit artist.
No president in our history has spoken like that before.
Number three, The crimes that you are still charged with, and think of all the civil penalties you have.
How many billions of dollars do you owe in civil penalties for molesting a woman in public, for doing a whole range of things, of having sex with a porn star while your wife was pregnant?
I mean, what are you talking about?
You have the morals of an allocator.
Look at this guy.
Look at this piece of shit.
I didn't have sex with a porn star, number one.
Number two, that was a case that was started and moved.
They moved a high ranking official, a DOJ, into the Manhattan DA's office to start that case.
That case is going to be appealed and won.
We had a very terrible judge, a horrible judge, Democrat.
The prosecutor were all high ranking Democrats, appointed people and both the civil and the criminal.
He basically went after his political opponent because he thought it was going to damage me.
But when the public found out about these cases, because they understand it better than he does.
He has no idea what these cases are.
But when they found out about these cases, you know what they did?
My poll numbers went up way up because you're reporting it.
And we took in more money in the last two weeks than we've ever taken in in the history of any campaign.
I don't think any campaign has ever taken.
Hundreds of millions of dollars came pouring in because the public knows it's a scam.
And it's a guy that's after his political opponent because he can't win fair and square.
Thank you, President Trump.
President Biden, you have said, quote, Donald Trump and his MAGA Republicans are determined to destroy American democracy.
Do you believe that the tens of millions of Americans who are likely to vote for President Trump will be voting against American democracy?
The more they know about what he's done, yes.
The more they know about what he's done.
And there's a lot more coming.
He's got a lot of cases down the road coming around.
He's got a whole range of issues he has to face.
I don't know what the juries will do, but I do know he has a real problem.
And so the fact that, could you ever think you heard any president say that I'm going to seek retribution?
You ever hear any president say that I thought he'd write some good ideas?
Yeah, you!
You!
Oatmeal for brains!
I decided in Iraq, because of Iraq, I said I wasn't going to run again.
Until I saw what happened in Charlottesville, Virginia.
Oh, here he goes!
Charlottesville.
Carrying swastikas on torches, torches, and singing the same anti-Semitic bile they sang when we were back in Germany.
And the young woman got killed.
They spoke to the mother.
And they asked him, they said, what do you think of those people?
The people who, the ones who got killed, the ones who tried to stop it, and the ones he said, I think they're fine people on both sides.
Oh, he did it.
Holy shit.
After the fact check, too.
Oh, my gosh.
Just coming out of fields, carrying torches.
I hate this fucking guy.
I can't even tell you.
Carrying swastikas.
Even the left admitted that's a hoax now.
The Snopes debunked this.
He took a week off for this performance.
Jake, both of you know that story has been totally wiped out because when you see the sentence, it said 100% exoneration on that story.
He just keeps it going.
He says he ran because of He ran because it was his last chance.
He's not equipped to be president.
You know it, and I know it.
It's ridiculous.
We have a debate.
We're trying to justify his presidency.
His presidency is, without question, the worst president, the worst presidency in the history of our country.
We shouldn't be having a debate about it.
There's nothing to debate.
He made up the Charlottesville story, and you'll see it's debunked all over the place.
Every reasonable anchor.
And just the other day it came out where it was fully debunked.
It's a nonsense story.
He knows that.
And he didn't run because of Charlottesville.
He used that as an excuse to run.
President Biden, debunked.
It happened.
All you have to do is listen to what was said at the time.
Oh, shit.
He's doubling down!
Oh my gosh!
And the idea that he's talking about, all this being fabricated, we saw with our own eyes.
We saw what happened on January 6th.
We saw the people breaking through the windows.
We saw people occupying his own vice president.
Look, there's a reason why 40 of his 44 top cabinet officers refused to endorse him this time.
His vice president hasn't endorsed him this time.
So why?
Why?
They know him well.
They serve with him.
Why are they not endorsing him?
Thank you, President Biden.
We're going to be right back with more from the CNN. Holy shit, folks.
He did it.
I really, I said it.
Did we not say he was going to go there with the fine people thing?
I didn't believe you.
I thought he would listen to the fact checkers.
Wait, wait.
Just to be clear, you guys watch the podcast today.
Folks in the chat while we're here.
I did say today in the podcast, right, that he was going to go there with the fine people thing?
Did I say that?
I mean, I don't want to take credit, but I'm reasonably confident I did.
And this guy, you understand what a piece of human garbage this guy is?
Tapper debunked the thing himself, and he still did it.
This guy is a freaking bullshit artist.
Dan, I think we missed this.
Biden actually said that he talked to the people who died, the heroes who died at D-Day.
So he talked to the people that were dead.
I totally missed that.
This is all over.
Did he say that?
Yeah, he said he talked to dead people.
He said, okay, yes, they're saying you're correct.
Folks, I'm trying to keep a hoax count.
One...
F this guy.
He's a piece of garbage.
He's a total piece of human waste.
The stuff he's doing tonight is so disgusting and gross.
And I just want to say on a good note, Trump is lucid.
He's impressive tonight.
He's very issue-focused.
And he's not getting hooked into the emotional stuff.
I'm going to say something.
I think not having the studio audience there...
Is actually helping him out.
I really do.
I think it's keeping him grounded while Biden goes back and forth from looking like he's shitting in his pants to just being like the old get off my lawn guy.
Here's the hoaxes.
Folks in the chat, help us out.
I got the bleach hoax.
Drink bleach hoax, right?
One.
The suckers and losers hoax.
I heard that he calls them suckers and losers.
Obviously, the fine people hoax.
The bloodbath hoax.
And Guy's doing online fact-checking for us right now, which was about the auto industry, not about the election.
And then, so I have four.
But then he threw one out there.
There's a new hoax, too.
What did he say?
There were a thousand trillionaires in the world, Guy?
Yeah.
There are effectively no trillionaires, so he's off by a factor of a thousand there.
There are none of those.
But again, am I missing anything here, folks?
Is there any hoax I missed that he put out there?
I'm not seeing any.
Well, January 6th, yeah, he was all over the place on that with this guy.
But this guy, I mean, what?
Avita, you just said it right.
You're telling me this guy has been effectively out of commission for really almost two weeks now.
You know he's jacked up tonight.
I don't know what the hell he was drinking before he got out there.
And this is the best this freaking clown can do?
What a joke.
No, it's such a joke.
He looks like he's falling asleep the whole time.
And even the contrast in their voices has been...
So shocking to see.
Trump has effectively not aged since he was last on the campaign trail, and Biden is on his deathbed.
It's so evident.
And guys, keep doing that.
Once in a while, zone in on his face like that.
Folks, you see the difference between the two?
You gotta understand, they're only a few years apart.
They look like they're 30 years apart.
I mean, you're talking to a guy who self-admittedly, in Trump, he likes his Big Macs, his Diet Cokes.
He looks 20, 30 years younger.
And not to get all about the physical appearance here, but he's not blinking.
I don't know if anybody's looking at that.
His eyes are like transfixed.
He's literally like in a trance.
Did you notice even when he moves?
Did you see what he did with his ear?
He was like, I don't know what the hell he's doing.
It's like he moves in slow motion.
Oh my gosh, he was like...
It's like, dude, just don't touch anything.
Don't move.
The muscles and the nervous junctions clearly aren't working very well.
But, you know, I'm trying to stay somewhat objective.
My goal is the same.
I think a push is where we need to go.
Are we back, by the way?
Are we back at the debate?
We're back.
Mothers are still three times more likely to die from pregnancy-related causes, and black Americans are imprisoned at five times the rate of white Americans.
What do you say to black voters who are disappointed that you haven't made more progress?
They acknowledge you made a lot of progress, number one.
The fact of the matter is there's more small black businesses that have been started at any time in history.
Number two, the voices of black...
Does it mean black small businesses?
...and in a long, long time.
Number three, providing housing for black Americans and dealing with the segregation that exists among these corporate...
These corporate operations are collude to keep people out of their houses.
In addition to that, we find that the impact on the choice that black families have to make relative to child care is incredibly difficult.
When we did the first major piece of legislation in the past, I was able to reduce black child care costs.
I cut them in half, in half.
We've got to make sure we provide for child care costs.
We've got to make sure because when you provide those child care protections, you increase economic growth because more people can be in the job market.
So there's more to be done, considerably more to be done.
But we've done a great deal so far, and I'm not letting it up, and they know it.
You have 49 seconds left.
What do you say to black voters who are disappointed with the progress so far?
I say I don't blame them for being disappointed.
We don't either.
We finally agree.
We all agree.
Fact check, true.
$200,000, folks.
To be able to buy their first home so they can get started.
I made sure that we're in a situation where all those black families and those black individuals who provided had to take out student loans that were ballooning, that if they were engaged in nursing, And anything having to do with volunteerism.
If they paid their bills for 10 years from student debt, all the rest was forgiven after 10 years.
Millions have benefited from that.
And we're going to do a whole lot more for black families.
Thank you, President Trump.
And he caused the inflation.
He's blaming inflation.
And he's right.
It's been very bad.
He caused the inflation.
And it's killing black families and just everybody.
It's killing people.
They can't buy groceries anymore.
They can't.
You look at the cost of food where it's doubled, tripled and quadrupled.
They can't live.
They're not living anymore.
He caused this inflation.
I gave him a country with no essentially no inflation.
It was perfect.
It was so good.
All he had to do is leave it alone.
He destroyed it with his Green News scam and all of the other all this money that's being thrown out the window.
He caused inflation.
As sure as you're sitting there, the fact is that his big kill on the black people is the millions of people that he's allowed to come in through the border.
They're taking black jobs now.
It could be 19 and even 20 million people.
They're taking black jobs and they're taking Hispanic jobs.
And you haven't seen it yet, but you're going to see something that's going to be the worst in our history.
Thank you, President Biden.
There was no inflation.
Did you hear that?
You don't even think you said it right.
What did he say?
Inflation.
There's no inflation?
There's no inflation.
The economy.
Absolutely decimated the economy.
That's why there was no inflation at the time.
There were no jobs.
We've provided thousands of millions of jobs for individuals who are involved in communities, including minority communities.
We made sure that they have health insurance.
We have covered, if the ACA has increased, I made sure that they're $8,000 per person in a family to get written off for health care.
But this guy wants to eliminate that.
They tried 50 times.
He wants to get rid of the ACA again.
And they're going to try again if they win.
We find ourselves in a position where the idea that we're not doing any...
We put more police on the street than any administration has.
He wants to cut the cops.
We're providing for equity, equity and making sure people have a shot to make it.
There's a lot going on.
But in inflation, he caused it by his tremendous...
There it is, folks.
Lifetime fact check.
...the way he handled the pandemic.
Thank you.
Another persistent challenge is the climate crisis.
23 was the hottest year in recorded history, and communities across the country are confronting the devastating effects of extreme heat, intensifying wildfires, stronger hurricanes, and rising sea levels.
Former President Trump, you've vowed to end your opponent's climate initiatives, but will you take any action?
Just a quick fact check on Dana.
Climate-related disaster deaths have plummeted because of modern life.
How close the police are to him.
Almost every police group in the nation from every state is supporting Donald J. Trump.
Almost every police group.
And what he's done to the black population is horrible, including the fact that for 10 years he called them super predators in the 1990s.
We can't forget that.
Super predators.
And they've taken great offense at it.
And now they see it happening.
But when they see what I did for criminal justice reform and for the historically black colleges and universities where I funded them and got them all funded and the Opportunity Zones with Tim, as you know, Tim Scott was incredible.
He did a great job.
Great Senator from South Carolina.
He came to me with the idea and it was a great idea.
It's one of the most successful economic development acts ever in the country.
Opportunity Zones.
And the biggest beneficiary are blacks.
And that's why we have the best numbers with them in maybe ever.
They're saying ever.
I read this morning where ever.
The best numbers.
He's lost much of the black population because he's done a horrible job for black people.
He's also done a horrible job for Hispanics.
But when you see these millions of people pouring into our country and they're going to take the jobs and it's already started and you haven't seen anything yet.
It's a disaster.
38 seconds left.
President Trump, will you take any action as president to slow the climate crisis?
So, I want absolutely immaculate, clean water, and I want absolutely clean air, and we had it.
We had H2O. We had the best numbers ever, and we were using...
All forms of energy.
All forms.
Everything.
And yet, during my four years, I had the best environmental numbers ever.
And my top environmental people gave me that statistic just before I walked on the stage, actually.
I don't know where the hell he's been.
The idea that anything he said is true.
I passed the most extensive climate change legislation in history.
In history.
We find ourselves, and by the way, black colleges, I came up with $15 billion for HBCUs, historic black universities and colleges, because they don't have the kind of contributors that they have to build these laboratories and the like.
Any black student is capable in college of doing what any white student can do.
They just have the money, but now they'll be able to get those jobs in high tech.
We're in a situation where the idea that he is claiming to have done something that had the cleanest water, cleanest water, he hadn't done a damn thing with the environment.
Out of the Paris Climate Accord, I immediately joined it, because if we reach 1.5 degrees Celsius at any one point, there's no way back.
The only existential threat to humanity is climate change, and he didn't do a damn thing about it.
Tell your boy Obama!
He's got a waterfront house, you dimwad!
It's going to cost us a trillion dollars, and China nothing, and Russia nothing, and India nothing.
It was a rip-off of the United States.
And I ended it because I didn't want to waste that money because they treat us horribly.
We were the only ones who was costing us money.
Nobody else was paying into it.
And it was a disaster.
But everything that he said just now, I'll give you an example.
I heard him say before insulin.
I'm the one that got the insulin down for the seniors.
I took care of the seniors.
What he's doing is destroying all of our medical programs because the migrants coming in, they want everybody.
And look, I have the biggest heart on the stage.
I guarantee you that.
And I want to take care of people.
But we're destroying our country.
They're taking over our schools, our hospitals, and they're going to be taking over Social Security.
He is destroying Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid.
The idea is that we...
He said the idea at least three, four times.
Is it a verbal kick he's got?
We're not.
We're not members of the Paris Accord.
How can we do anything?
The United States can't get us under control.
Too bad U.S. can't send millions and millions of dollars to climate crap.
By 2035, we will have cut pollution in half.
We have made significant progress, and we're continuing to make progress.
We set up a climate corps where thousands of young people will learn how to deal with climate, just like the Peace Corps.
And we're moving in directions that are going to significantly change the elements of cause of pollution.
But the idea that he claims that he has the biggest heart up here and he's really concerned about pollution and about climate, I've not seen any indication of that.
And by the way, with regard to prescription drugs, one company agreed that they would reduce the price to $35, which I was calling for, one, voluntarily.
I made sure every company in the world, every pharmaceutical company, cannot have to pay.
Thank you.
And by the way...
Every day, millions of Americans struggle just to make ends meet.
For many older Americans, Social Security provides a critical lifeline.
President Biden, if nothing is done to Social Security, seniors will see their benefits cut in just over 10 years.
Will you name tonight one specific step that you're willing to take to keep Social Security solvent?
Yes, make the very wealthy begin to pay their fair share.
Oh, shut up, you dog.
That's offensive to Lucy.
Fair share.
Every single time they get a paycheck from the time the first one they get when they're 18 years old.
The idea that they're going to...
Here's the idea.
I'm proposing that everybody they pay...
The millionaires pay 1%.
1%.
Whoa!
Fact check that right away.
This guy's full of shit!
As always, this grifter bum began to pay their fair share by increasing from 1% beyond to be able to guarantee the program for life.
So you still have 82 seconds left.
Are there any other measures that you think that would be able to help keep Social Security solvent?
Or is that one enough?
Well, that one enough will keep it solvent.
But the biggest thing I'll do if we defeat this man, because he wants to get rid of Social Security.
He thinks there's plenty to cut in Social Security.
He's wanting to cut Social Security and Medicare.
He's actually said the opposite.
I don't even agree with that, but he said the opposite.
This guy's so full of shit.
...that he supports is, in fact, wanting to cut it as well.
The idea that we don't need to protect seniors is ridiculous.
We put...
And by the way...
Social Security is bankrupting the United States, and specifically Gen Z. And on the ACA, as I said...
We're in a circumstance where 400,000 people, I mean, 40 million people, would not have insurance because they have a pre-existing condition.
Only thing that allows them to have that insurance is the fact that they, in fact, are part of the ACA. And by the way, the other thing is, we're in a situation where I talk about education for black communities.
I've raised the The amount of money for Pell Grants, another $8,000.
So anybody making under $70,000 a year is going to be able to get $15,000 towards the tuition.
He just doesn't know what he's talking about.
Thank you, President Biden.
President Trump.
So I've dealt with politicians all my life.
I've been on this side of the equation for the last eight years.
I've never seen anybody lie like this guy.
Yes!
So many other things, too.
And we mentioned the laptop.
We mentioned Russia, Russia, Russia, Ukraine, Ukraine, Ukraine.
Everything he does is a lie.
It's misinformation and disinformation.
The losers and suckers story that he made up is a total lie on the military.
It's a disgrace.
But Social Security...
He's destroying it because millions of people are pouring into our country and they're putting them onto Social Security.
They're putting them onto Medicare, Medicaid.
They're putting them in our hospitals.
They're taking the place of our citizens.
What they're doing to the VA, to our veterans, is unbelievable.
Our veterans are living in the street and these people are living in luxury hotels.
He doesn't know what he's doing.
And it's really coming back.
I've never seen such anger in our country before.
President Biden.
The idea that veterans are not being taken.
We get an idea counter.
This is ridiculous.
The chat's going to get drunk and he just says every time he says that they should take a drink.
Guys, don't drink.
We'll be poisoned by the tequila.
We'll get our stomach pumps after this.
Number one.
Number two.
The idea that we're going to be in a situation where millions and millions, he talks about it, illegal aliens are coming into the country and taking away our jobs.
There's a reason why we have the fastest growing economy in the world, the reason why we have the most successful economy in the world.
We're doing better than any other nation in the world.
And by the way, those 15 Nobel laureates he talked about.
Oh, here we go.
15 Nobel laureates, economists, they all said that if Trump is reelected, we're elected to have a recession.
And inflation is going to increase and go up.
And by the way, worst president in history, 159 presidential scholars voted.
This is why CNN didn't want to fact check the debate.
Remember, President Biden, you said that the Nobel laureates, the now you see why, folks, the now you see why they did it.
The struggle to afford President Trump, both you and President Biden have tried to address this issue.
But the average cost of child care in this country has risen to more than $11,000 a year per child.
For many families, the cost of childcare for two children is more than their rent.
In your second term, what would you do to make childcare more affordable?
Just to go back, the general got fired because he was no good.
And if he said that, that's why he made it up.
But we have 19 people that said I didn't say it, and they're very highly respected, much more so than him.
The other thing is...
He doesn't fire people.
He never fired people.
I've never seen him fire anybody.
I did fire a lot.
I fired Comey because he was no good.
I fired a lot of the top people at the FBI, drained the swamp.
They were no good.
Not easy to fire people.
You'd pay a price for it, but they were no good.
I inherited these people.
I didn't put them there.
I didn't put Comey there.
He was no good.
I fired him.
This guy hasn't fired anybody.
He never fires.
He should have fired every military man that was involved with that Afghan The Afghanistan horror show, the most embarrassing moment in the history of our country.
He didn't fire.
Did you fire anybody?
Did you fire anybody that's on the border, that's allowed us to have the worst border in the history of the world?
Did anybody get fired for allowing 18 million people, many from prisons, many from mental institutions?
Did you fire anybody that allowed our country to be destroyed?
Joe, our country is being destroyed as you and I sit up here and waste a lot of time on this debate.
This shouldn't be a debate.
He is the worst president.
He just said about me because I said it.
But look, he's the worst president in the history of our country.
He's destroyed our country.
Now all of a sudden he's trying to get a little tough on the border.
He came out with a nothing deal and it reduced it a little bit, like this much.
It's insignificant.
He wants open borders.
He wants our country to either be destroyed or he wants to pick up those people as voters.
And I don't think we just can't let it happen.
If he wins this election, our country doesn't have a chance, not even a chance of coming out of this rut.
We probably won't have a country left anymore.
That's how bad it is.
He is the worst in history by far.
Thank you, President Trump.
President Biden?
Smart.
We're the most admired country in the world.
So sharp tonight.
He answered the question he wanted.
Nothing beyond our capacity.
We have the finest military in the history of the world.
The finest in the history of the world.
No one thinks we're weak.
No one wants to screw around with them.
They think you're weak.
Right.
You're the one.
Exactly.
He's right.
Not the military.
You, Joe.
We're talking about first presidents.
I wasn't joking.
Look it up.
Go online.
159 or 158. Don't hold me the exact number.
Presidential historians, they've had meetings and they voted.
Who's the worst president in American history?
Best to worst.
They said he was the worst in all of American history.
A bunch of Marxist professors said that?
No way!
He could argue they're wrong, but that's what they voted.
The idea that he is knowing, doing anything to deal with child care.
He did virtually nothing to childcare.
We should significantly increase the childcare tax credit.
We should significantly increase the availability of women and men or single parents to be able to go back to work.
And we should encourage businesses to hold, to have...
Thank you, President Biden.
President Trump, the question was about what would you do to make childcare more affordable, if you want to take your minute.
Just so you understand, we have polling, we have other things that they rate them the worst.
Because what he's done is so bad.
And they rate me...
I'll show you.
I will show you.
And they rate me one of the best, okay?
And if I'm given another four years, I will be the best.
I think I'll be the best.
Nobody's ever...
Created an economy like us.
Nobody ever cut taxes like us.
He's the only one I know.
He wants to raise your taxes by four times.
He wants to raise everybody's taxes by four times.
He wants the Trump tax cuts to expire so everybody, including the two of you, are going to pay four to five times.
Nobody ever heard of this before.
All my life, I'd grow up and I'd see politicians talking about cutting taxes.
When we cut taxes, as I said, we did more business.
Apple and all these companies, they were bringing money back into our country.
The worst president in history by far, and everybody knows it.
President Biden?
Look, the fact of the matter is that he's dead wrong about...
He's increased...
He will increase the taxes on middle-class people.
I said I'd never raise a tax on anybody making less than $400,000.
I didn't.
This tariff is 10% tariffs.
Everything coming into the country, you know what the economists say?
That's going to cost the average American $2,500 a year more because they're going to have to pay the difference in food and all the things that are very important.
Number two, he's in a situation where he talks about how he has not raised, he somehow helped the middle class.
The middle class has been devastated by you.
Now you want a new tax cut of $5 trillion over the next 10 years, which is going to fundamentally bankrupt the country.
You have the largest deficit of any president in American history, number one.
Number two, you have not, in fact, made any contact, any progress with China.
We are the lowest trade deficit with China since 2010. Thank you, President Budd.
Thank you, President Budd.
Let's discuss an epidemic impacting millions of Americans that both of you have made a top priority in your first term, the opioid crisis.
And for both of you, the number of overdose deaths in this country has gone up.
Under your term, it went up.
Under your term, it has gone up.
Former President Trump, despite the efforts that both of you have made, more than 100,000 Americans are dying from overdoses every year, primarily from fentanyl and other opioids.
What will you do to help Americans right now in the throes of addiction who are struggling to get the treatment they need?
To finish up, we now have the largest deficit in the history of our country under the sky.
We have the largest deficit with China.
He gets paid by China.
He's a Manchurian candidate.
He gets money from China.
We have to deal with it or something.
But do you notice he never took out my tariffs because we bring in so much money with the tariffs that I imposed on China.
He never took them away.
He can't because it's too much money.
It's tremendous.
And we saved our steel industries and there was more to come.
But he hasn't done that.
But he hasn't cut the tariffs because he can't, because it's too much money.
But he's got the largest deficit in the history of our country, and he's got the worst situation with China.
China's going to own us if you keep allowing them to do what they're doing to us as a country.
They are killing us as a country, Joe, and you can't let that happen.
You're destroying our country.
So, President Trump, you have 67 seconds left.
The question was, what are you going to do to help Americans in the throes of addiction right now who are struggling to get the treatment they need?
Jake, we were doing very well at addiction until the COVID came along.
We had the two and a half, almost three years, like nobody's ever had before, any country, in every way.
And then we had to get tough.
And it was the drugs pouring across the border.
We're, it started to increase.
We got great equipment.
We bought the certain dog.
That's the most incredible thing that you've ever seen.
The way they can spot it.
We did a lot.
And we had, we were getting very low numbers.
Very, very low numbers.
Then he came along.
The numbers, have you seen the numbers now?
It's not only the 18 million people that I believe is even low.
Because the gotaways, they don't even talk about gotaways.
But the numbers of, the amount of drugs and human trafficking in women.
Coming across our border, the worst thing I've ever seen at numbers that nobody's ever seen under him because the border is so bad.
But the number of drugs coming across our border now is the largest we've ever had by far.
President Trump, thank you.
President Biden?
Fentanyl and the byproducts of fentanyl went down for a while.
And I wanted to make sure we use the machinery that can detect fentanyl.
These big machines that roll over everything that comes across the border.
And it cost a lot of money.
If he cared, he'd close the border.
This deal we put together.
This bipartisan deal.
More fentanyl machines.
More people to detect drugs.
More numbers of agents.
More numbers of all the people at the border.
And when we had that deal done, he called his Republican colleagues and said, don't do it.
It's going to hurt me politically.
He never argued it's not a good bill.
It's a really good bill.
We need those machines.
We're coming down very hard in every country in Asia in terms of precursors for fentanyl, and Mexico is working with us to make sure they don't have the technology to be able to put it together.
That's what we have to do.
We need those machines.
Thank you, President Biden.
President Trump, and again, the question is about Americans in the throes of addiction right now struggling to get the treatment they need.
Because this does pertain to it.
He ended Remain in Mexico.
He ended Catch and Release.
I made a Catch and Release in Mexico, not Catch and Release here.
We had so many things that we had done.
Hard negotiations with Mexico, and I got it all for nothing.
It's just like when you have a hostage.
We always pay $6 billion every time we say there's a hostage.
Now we have a hostage, a Wall Street Journal reporter.
I think a good guy.
And he's over there because Putin is laughing at this guy, probably asking for billions of dollars.
For the reporter.
I will have him out very quickly.
As soon as I take office, before I take office, I said, by literally, as soon as I win the election, I will have that reporter out.
He should have had him out a long time ago.
But Putin's probably asking for billions and billions of dollars because this guy pays it every time.
We had two cases.
We paid six billion dollars for five people.
I got 58 people out and I paid essentially nothing.
Thank you, President Trump.
Dana?
Let's turn to concerns that voters have about each of you.
President Biden, you would be 86 at the end of your second term.
How do you address concerns about your capability to handle the toughest job in the world well into your 80s?
First of all, I spent half my career being criticized as being the youngest person in politics.
I was the second youngest person ever elected to the United States Senate.
And now I'm the oldest.
Look at the record.
Look at what I've done.
Look, I've turned around the horrible situation he left me.
As I said, 15 million new jobs, 800,000 manufacturing jobs, more investment in America.
Over millions, billions of dollars in private investment in enterprises that we are growing.
By the way, we brought off a lot of people, the whole idea of computer chips.
We still have 40% of the market.
We invented those chips and we lost it because he was sending people to find the cheapest jobs overseas and to bring home a product.
So I went to South Korea.
I convinced Samsung to invest billions of dollars here in the United States.
And guess what?
Those fabs, they call, to build these chips, those fabs pay over $100,000.
You don't need a college degree for them.
And there's billions, about $40 billion already being invested and being built right now in the United States, creating significant jobs for Americans from all over the world.
President Biden, you have 40 seconds left.
NBC News is blaming it on Biden having a cold.
His senile behavior.
We're the envy of the world.
Cold gives you dementia.
We're a country president who wouldn't trade places with the United States of America for all our problems and all our opportunities.
We're the most progressive country in the world in getting things done.
We're the strongest country in the world.
We're a country in the world who keeps our word and everybody trusts us, all of our allies and our and our and our those who he coddles up to Kim Jong-un.
He sends love letters to Putin, et cetera.
They don't want to screw around with us.
Thank you.
Former President Trump, to follow up, you would be 82 at the end of your second term.
What do you say to voters who have concerns about your capabilities to serve Well, I took two tests, cognitive tests.
I aced them, both of them, as you know.
We made it public.
He took none.
I'd like to see him take one, just one, a real easy one.
It's five questions.
He couldn't do it.
Cognitive tests.
I took physical exams every year.
And, you know, we knock on wood wherever we may have wood.
That I'm in very good health.
I just won two club championships, not even senior, two regular club championships.
To do that, you have to be quite smart, and you have to be able to hit the ball a long way.
And I do it.
He doesn't do it.
He can't hit a ball 50 yards.
He challenged me to a golf match.
He can't hit a ball 50 yards.
I feel that I'm as in good a shape as I was 25, 30 years ago.
Actually, I'm probably a little bit lighter.
He's actually answering the question.
Yeah.
Years ago.
I feel very good.
I feel the same.
But I was willing to take a cognitive test.
And you know what?
If I didn't do well, I aced him.
Dr. Ronnie Jackson, who's a great guy, when he was a White House doctor.
And then I took another one, a similar one.
And one of them said they've never seen anybody ace him.
Thank you.
President Biden?
You can see he is 6'5 and only 223 pounds.
Or 235 pounds.
Well, he says Anyway, just take a look at what he said.
What was that mess?
Look, I'd be happy to have a driving contest with him.
Kareem, I got my handicap when I was vice president down to a six.
And by the way, I'm happy to play golf if you carry your own bag.
Think you can do it?
That's the biggest lie that he's a six handicap of all.
I was eight.
Eight?
I've seen your swing.
I know your swing.
Let's not act like children.
Let's not act like children.
The specific concern that voters have about you.
Will you pledge tonight that once all legal challenges have been exhausted, that you will accept the results of this election, regardless of who wins, and you will say right now that political violence in any form is unacceptable.
Well, I shouldn't have to say that, but of course I believe that.
It's totally unacceptable.
And if you would see my statements that I made on Twitter at the time, And also my statement that I made in the Rose Garden, you would say it's one of the strongest statements you've ever seen.
In addition to the speech I made, in front of, I believe, the largest crowd I've ever spoken to, and I will tell you, nobody ever talks about that.
They talk about a relatively small number of people that went to the Capitol, and in many cases were ushered in by the police.
And as Nancy Pelosi said, it was her responsibility, not mine.
She said that loud and clear.
But the answer is, if the election is fair, free, and I want that more than anybody, And I'll tell you something.
I wish he was a great president because I wouldn't be here right now.
I'd be at one of my many places enjoying myself.
I wouldn't be under indictment because I wouldn't have been his political opponent, you know, opponent.
That's right.
Because he indicted me because I was his opponent.
I wish he was a great president.
I would rather have that.
I wouldn't be here.
I don't mind being here.
The only reason I'm here is he's so bad as a president.
I'm going to make America great again.
We're going to make America great again.
We're a failing nation right now.
We're a seriously failing nation.
And we're a failing nation because of him.
His policies are so bad.
His military policies are insane.
They're insane.
These are wars that will never end with him.
He will drive us into World War III. And we're closer to World War III than anybody can imagine.
We are very, very close to World War III, and he's driving us there.
And Kim Jong-un and President Xi of China, Kim Jong-un of North Korea, all of these are Putin.
They don't respect him.
They don't fear him.
They have nothing going with this gentleman, and he's going to drive us into World War III. If you want a World War III, let him follow and win, and let Putin say, do what you want, NATO. Just do what you want.
There's a thing called Article 5. Attack on one is attack on all.
Required response.
The idea.
The idea.
I can't think of a single major leader in the world who wouldn't trade places with what job I've done and what they've done.
Because we are a powerful nation.
We have wonderful people.
It's because of the people.
Not me.
It's because of the American people.
They're capable of anything.
They step up when they're needed.
And right now, we're needed.
We're needed to protect the world because our own safety is at stake.
And again, If you want to have a war, just let Putin go ahead and take Kyiv, make sure they move on, see what happens in Poland, Hungary, and other places along that border.
Then you have a war.
President Trump, as I come back to you for a follow-up, the question was, will you accept the results of this election, regardless of who wins?
Just to finish what he said, if I might, Russia, they took a lot of land from Bush.
They took a lot of land from Obama and Biden.
They took no land, nothing from Trump.
Nothing.
He knew not to do it.
Not going to play games with me.
He knew that.
I got along with him very well, but he knew not to play games.
He took nothing from me.
But now he's going to take the whole thing from this man right here.
That's a war that should have never started.
It would have never started ever with me.
And he's going to take Ukraine.
And, you know, you asked me a question before.
Would you do this?
He's got us in such a bad position right now with Ukraine and Russia.
Because Ukraine's not winning that war.
He said, I will never settle until such time.
They're running out of people.
They're running out of soldiers.
They've lost so many people.
It's so sad.
They've lost so many people.
And they've lost those gorgeous cities with the golden domes that are a thousand years old.
All because of him and stupid decisions.
Russia would have never attacked.
President Trump, the question was, will you accept the results of the election, regardless of who wins?
Yes or no, please.
If it's a fair and legal and good election, absolutely.
I would have much rather accepted these.
Yes or no.
The fraud and everything else was ridiculous.
And if you want, we'll have a news conference on it in a week.
Or we'll have another one of these on it in a week.
But I will absolutely, there's nothing I'd rather do.
It would be much easier for me to do that Then I'm running again.
I wasn't really going to run until I saw the horrible job he did.
He's destroying our country.
I would be very happy to be someplace else in a nice location someplace.
And again, no indictments, no political opponent stuff because it's the only way he thinks he can win.
But unfortunately, it's driven up my numbers and driven them up to a very high level because the people understand it.
Let's see what your numbers are when this election is over.
Let's see.
You're a whiner.
When you lost the first time, you continued, you appealed and appealed to courts all across the country.
Not one single court in America said any of your claims had any merit.
That's a lie.
State or local.
There's a standing issue.
You continue to provoke this lie about somehow there's all this misrepresentation, all this stealing.
There's no evidence of that at all.
And I tell you what, I doubt whether you'll accept it because you're such a whiner.
The idea if you lose again, you accepted anything, you can't stand the loss.
Something snapped in you when you lost the last time.
We'll be right back with more from the CNN presidential debate, live from Georgia.
See what he's trying to do with the Weiner thing?
Yeah.
Someone told him get under his skin, and I guarantee you they, like, focus group tested, studied that, and they must have watched thousands of hours of video, and they must think it's going to get under his skin, but...
Give me your take on it.
Again, I'm trying to be objective here.
I think Trump is just wiping the floor with him at this point.
He is.
And I don't know if you're noticing this, Dan, but there was some moments where he's kind of touching his ear.
You mentioned it before.
There's some conspiracies right now that he's gotten earpiece in, which I wouldn't be surprised.
It seems like he's trying to listen.
If he does, it's the worst earpiece ever.
Yeah, it's true.
Who the hell's feeding him information?
The craziest thing to me is this cold story that apparently they're blaming his terrible performance on a cold.
Yeah, I was glad you brought that up.
Did you guys see that in the chat?
Did you guys see that on the...
Evita and the team put it up on the screen?
So this guy sucks so bad right now.
This is going so bad for Biden.
And listen, I'm going to be straight with you.
I don't even think that's a great thing.
Because I think after tonight, the Democrats are going to push to get this guy out and want to run with him.
But I want to run against this guy.
But it's going so bad right now for Biden...
That they're saying that he may have some kind of a cold.
Look at him.
He's always messing.
What is he doing with his ear?
What is he doing with his ear, this guy?
What is he pulling your ears out?
It's disgusting.
And they're saying now he's got a cold or something like that.
Folks, listen.
This is really, I think, first take.
Guys, chime in if you think I'm crazy.
First take, this has been a really, really bad debate for Biden.
Not horrendous.
But bad.
Nobody has been saying before tonight that they're going to replace him.
I'm seeing all over Twitter right now they're going to replace him.
They have to.
They can't come back from this.
Everyone is saying...
Can you put the chat up on the screen?
Folks in the chat, we still got...
Almost 200,000 people here.
By the way, thank you.
We had a little issue with Rumble.
Even with the issue with Rumble, we are the third biggest live stream in the world right now.
And we're ready to be number two in just a few minutes.
So that's freaking insane.
I love you.
Thank you.
You guys are awesome.
You're really fantastic.
Thank you so much.
So past NBC News with the organization that put out that cold line...
Yeah, folks, the cold thing is obviously bullshit.
They're trying to protect this guy.
Now, who agrees with me in the chat?
I'd say, I don't know, if it was, say, one through five, we'll use this, make it easy, five fingers, right?
Five being the worst possible performance imaginable.
I don't think Biden's there.
He's probably about a three, five being the worst, say, number one being the best.
I think he's about a three.
The thing that's making this look worse is the foil.
Trump, I'm telling you, he's out of four.
It's not the best performance I think he's ever had.
But it's good and much better than Biden.
And what it is, is it's very controlled.
Some of the best lines of the night have been when Biden's losing his mind and Trump's the one calming him down.
Did you catch the thing?
You and I both looked at each other, Vita.
They were talking about golf and Trump clearly realized, all right, this isn't the appropriate time to say this.
And what did Trump say?
He said, let's not act like children, which is...
That's good for him.
He made Biden look small and unpresidential compared to him.
So that's a great point.
Also, I've noticed that maybe the chat agrees.
I don't know if you agree, Dan.
I think Biden's been the real problem throughout this whole thing with talking over and trying to get a word in when his mic's turned off.
It hasn't been Trump.
Biden's been the one not following the rules.
We're back.
Good point.
We're back over to you.
Although it was left by President Trump in his last term.
We find ourselves in a situation where, number one, we have to make sure that we have a fairer tax system.
I ask anyone out there in the audience, or anyone out watching this debate, do you think the tax system is fair?
The fact is that, I said, no, nobody had a single penny increase in their taxes.
And if I'm re-elected, that will be the case again.
This guy has increased your taxes because of the deficit, number one.
He's increased inflation because of the debacle he left after the way he handled the pandemic.
And he finds himself in a position where he now wants to tax you more by putting a 10% tariff on everything that comes in the United States of America.
I did when, for example, he wants to get rid of the ability of Medicare for the What's to be able to negotiate drug prices with the big pharma companies?
Well, guess what?
We got it down to $35 per insulin instead of $400, no more than $2,000 for every senior No matter how much prescription they need, you know what that did?
That reduced the federal debt by $160 billion over 10 years because the government doesn't have to pay the exorbitant prices.
I'm going to make that available to every senior all along, and it's happening now, and everybody in America wants to get rid of that.
I'm going to make sure that we have childcare.
We're going to significantly increase the credit people have for childcare.
What is he saying?
Stumbling through this.
Lead pipes and all the things that are causing health problems for people across the country.
We're going to continue to fight to bring down inflation and give people a break.
Thank you, President Biden.
President Trump, you now have two minutes for your closing statement.
Like so many politicians, this man is just a complainer.
He said, we want to do this.
We want to do that.
We want to get rid of this tax, that tax.
But he doesn't do anything.
All he does is make our country unsafe by allowing millions and millions of people to pour in.
Our military doesn't respect him.
We look like fools in Afghanistan.
We didn't stop Israel.
It was such a horrible thing.
That would have never happened.
It should have never happened.
Iran was broke.
Anybody that did business with Iran, including China, they couldn't do business with the United States.
They all passed.
Iran was broke.
They had no money for Hamas or Hezbollah for terror.
No money whatsoever.
Again, Ukraine should have never happened.
He talks about all this stuff, but he didn't do it.
For three and a half years, we're living in hell.
We have the Palestinians and we have everybody else rioting all over the place.
You talk about Charlottesville.
This is a hundred times Charlottesville, a thousand times Charlottesville.
The whole country is exploding because of you.
Because they don't respect you.
And they have to respect their president.
And they don't respect you throughout the world.
What we did was incredible.
We rebuilt the military.
We got the largest tax cut in history, the largest regulation cut in history.
The reason he's got jobs is because I cut the regulations that gave jobs.
But he's putting a lot of those regulations back on.
All of the things that we've done, nobody's ever...
I've never seen anything.
Even from a medical standpoint, Right to Try, where we can try space-age materials instead of going to Asia or going to Europe and trying to get when you're terminally ill.
Now you can go and you can get something.
You sign a document.
They've been trying to get it for 42 years.
But you know what we did for the military?
It was an incredible choice for our soldiers, where our soldiers...
Instead of waiting for three months to see a doctor, can go out and get themselves fixed up and readied up and take care of themselves and they're living.
And that's why I had the highest approval rating in the history of the VA. So all of these things, we're in a failing nation, but it's not going to be failing anymore.
We're going to make it great again.
Thank you, former President Trump, President Biden.
Stay with us because we have full analysis of this debate.
Anderson Cooper and Aaron Burnett start now on CNN. Final thoughts, folks, in the chat, please let us know.
I'll give you my take.
You give me your take.
I'll give some final thoughts.
And then I guess we'll bounce.
But I'm going to say it again.
Trying to be objective.
It wasn't the worst Biden performance in human history.
If five's the worst, again, I think it was about a three.
But the foil with a very lucid issue focus, very impressive Trump, good command of the issues made Biden look even worse.
This is the best Babylon Bee meme we've ever seen.
They say, you know, Trump indicted for murdering elderly men.
That's my take on this whole night.
Folks, Michael, Guy, the boss, Justin, Evita, you were fantastic.
And to all of you in the chat, I so appreciate it.
I just want to apologize again.
There was some really, really heavy traffic in the beginning.
Thank you for hanging with us at Rumble.
We got it done.
I think we were the third biggest stream in the United States.
I don't even know.
Maybe the world.
200 and something.
What did we peak out at?
227,000 people.
That's thanks to you.
I know I speak for my whole team when I say we so deeply appreciate it.
Thanks for all the hard work, guys, too.
What's that?
Hell yeah.
Gee, he never says anything.
I'm like, does he have something to say?
Hell yeah.
That's the gift.
For Gee, believe me, that's a lot.
Hey, thanks again for tuning in.
See you at 11 a.m.
tomorrow live on the podcast and the radio chat, folks.
I love you all so much.
Thanks a lot.
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