An interview with Dave Portnoy, El Presidente of Barstool Sports. The leftist hack site Business Insider did a hit piece on Dave, and he says that none of it is true. He made his case last week on the show. Next is Shemeka Michelle. She’s a contributor to Jason Whitlock’s great podcast “Fearless” and she has an amazing story of awakening about rising up from extremely difficult circumstances, race, and who was on her side. Then, congressman Jim Jordan about his new book “Do What You Said You Would Do” and also about how the vaccine mandates are affecting our supply chain and how people are standing up and winning against them.
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First up today is an interview with Dave Portnoy, El Presidente of Barstool Sports, the leftist site.
Business Insider did a hit piece on Dave and he says none of it's true.
He made his case last week on our show.
This was, this was something to listen to.
Listen on your own and make your own decision.
Check this out.
I want to welcome to the show for the first time El Presidente, Barstool Sports, One Bite Pizza.
Got an empire underneath you.
Dave Portnoy.
Dave, thanks for joining us.
Thanks for having me.
So Dave, I gotta tell you, I was pretty impressed.
I saw you on Tucker's show the other night and you said, you know, I'm willing to go on any show and defend myself against this Business Insider piece.
I texted my producer.
I said, Steve, come on our show.
And you said, yes.
So thanks for doing it.
We appreciate it.
Give us a story and an update on what happened.
I read this piece.
You got out there in front of it right away.
You did a live.
I saw it on social media.
You did not hide from it.
What's the status?
What's going on?
So yeah, I mean, the real brief part, I was the subject of a hit piece from Business Insider that was about eight, nine months in the works.
And I've had a lot of hit pieces written about me over the past decade, two decades, whatever.
This one was different nature.
It basically, without accusing me specifically, made me sound like I was a sexual deviant.
I knew it was coming because virtually every single girl that I've ever interacted with or woman that I've been connected with on social media, whether it's Instagram, Twitter, you name it, the reporter I was told was reaching out to all these girls being like, do you have any dirt on Dave Portnoy?
We've heard things.
We want stories.
So I knew it was coming because Uh, so many people reached out to me, people I didn't even know, be like, what is this all about?
So I knew it was coming and it was bad when you read it.
Um, and basically there's two allegations in it, uh, two anonymous sources.
Nobody's named.
I know who the two, uh, women, who they are.
Uh, I vehemently deny any wrongdoing.
It was 100% consensual sex, all legal.
I don't know why it's a story, and I've been able to actually provide proof of at least
one of the two allegations, which there's so many different spots, but the quick story,
you know, she said that it's a mother who complained and said, "The girl came over to
my house.
We hooked up, and then she fell into a depression, and basically I used her."
All lies, 100% lies, to the point I have documented proof of me Staying in contact with the girl after she came over my house.
She said she had a great time She said she was bragging about being with me gave me her cell phone 48 hours after the fact like there was zero Nothing, no red flag, nothing.
It was a totally consensual and fun experience and I have the proof to back it up in addition to that NBC News at one point, because they said this happened in Nantucket, where I live, the Nantucket police chief came forward and said, we have no record of a police incident, anything about this.
Um, I tweeted that out and Business Insider instantly rebutted that.
And they said, there is a police report.
We have it.
So now they did not include the police report of this supposed incident in the original article.
They had it.
They didn't put it in there.
The reason, when you read the police report, it reads like an Onion article.
You can't make this up, but it essentially is a mother saying, um, I've heard Dave Portnoy goes to the local cookie shop and he has different girls in there every single time.
I hear Dave Portnoy ask girls if they're 18 before he sleeps with them.
That's a lie, by the way.
I don't do that.
I'm not like hunting 18 year old girls as she tried to make it sound, but even If it was true, that actually kind of proves my innocence since that's legal in this country.
But she just made that up.
And then she also says the daughter basically had no memory of anything.
Like, she came over my house.
This is in the police report.
The daughter came over my house, blacked out, doesn't remember anything.
Yet, The Business Insider article has all these details, which are totally made up from the subject, from the accuser.
So you have a police report that is directly, directly contradicting what they're saying.
And by the way, they spent eight and a half months going through my entire life.
I'm talking anybody I've ever been connected with.
I'm not like, I'm a fairly well-known, single, Mail.
And this was one of the two sources that I was able to disprove in a second, in a second, with concrete facts.
Having updated the story, I offered Business Insider, I said, come on with me, talk.
You can bring whoever you want.
You can have your own cameras, your own video people, and you can use it for your own purposes.
Just, I'd like to ask how you can, how you're reporting this about me when there's direct facts that contradict it, that you were in possession of.
Um, so that's one of the accusers.
The second one, who I also know who it is, um, she came over, we had talked for a month and a half, totally consensual again.
Um, and as we, it was the first time we hung out after speaking for a month and a half and the more we got to know each other, it just didn't do, we didn't vibe for a variety of reasons and we didn't hook up again.
It was, it had nothing to do with what took place there.
I never heard a word after the fact.
This girl has identified in the article, they say she didn't say her name because of fear of repercussion.
She's on social media identifying herself and linking to her Instagram, hashtag to social media, like to trending topics, and is in her own comments saying, I never said it wasn't consensual.
I never said it was rape or anything.
Like she's basically saying, yeah, it was totally consensual.
Those are their two sources in eight and a half months of research.
There's a lot more to it.
That's just the bottom line.
I'm very closely associated with Penn National, which bought like 36% of Barstool Sports.
It's a publicly traded company.
This hit piece dropped on the same day as our earnings.
Further, the day before, there was an incredible amount of shorting activity.
You can bet for or against the stock.
For some reason, All of a sudden everyone was betting against Penn.
Well, when the hit piece dropped, it went down instantly an additional 10%.
Somebody, somewhere, made a sh** ton of money.
A ton of money.
So, that is in, and by the way, the CEO of Business Insider is, his name, Henry Blodgett, was literally banned by the SEC.
Dave, did I hear you right?
That people were shorting the stock the day before?
Yes.
Because that's a pretty big deal.
That's a huge deal.
Huge.
saying the stock stunk. So he's stolen money.
Dave, did I hear you right?
That people were shorting the stock the day before?
Yeah.
'Cause that's a pretty big deal.
That's a huge deal.
Huge.
I mean, that sounds to me that there could be some criminality involved in that.
I don't want to sound like crazy, but like conspiracy, I've never been, nothing like this has ever happened.
I mean, even now, this, the Penn stock was down.
Like they missed earnings, But--
There's tons of gambling stocks, and you can see how they all kind of move.
Penn was going to be down no matter what.
Like, it would have been down a little.
Would it have been down 20% without the hippies?
Not a chance in the world.
And I got some ice to sell you if somebody is telling me that they just happened to drop this on Penn Earnings Day.
There's 365 days in a year.
It dropped on Penn Earnings Day?
Get out of here.
Dave, we're talking to Dave Portnoy of Barstool Sports and the fantastic One Bite Pizza, by the way, which you can't keep putting stock anywhere near me.
You started a revolution in the whole pizza business.
Dave, why do you think you're a target as often as you are?
I mean, I have my guesses.
People assume your politics, you never have openly Talked about you're not a political guy.
You do sports.
You'll appear on shows that do politics, but it's not political segments.
I've watched you on Tucker.
They are not commenting on Joe Biden.
You're there to talk about culture issues in sports, which is what you do.
Is it that it's assumed You're a Republican again, but you've never said, and I'm not saying that about you either, or is it the fact that, listen, I enjoy Barstool.
You guys are irreverent.
You're funny.
You know, you celebrate manhood and sports and all the things we like about competition and meritocracy.
I mean, what is it?
Why do you always have the bullseye on your back?
So we've had a bullseye for a long time.
And, you know, it's interesting, but I don't want to bore the reader, but for a long time.
We never heard anything when I started the company.
And then we did this basically concert tour, called it the Blackout Tour, and we got protest at one stop and a small group of women said, because the girls were dressing like booty shorts and dance around like an EDM concert, and ever since then, the same group of people would be like, oh, they're, you know, sexist and whatever.
I've denied it time and again.
And I've never apologized for what I, what I believe in.
We've made some jokes that certainly have not landed and you can't make them now, but there's a group of people and it's the same small group of writers.
They rotate from, uh, you know, the daily beast, the dead spin, the who knows, who are the same group, all friends who have written the same hit pieces over and over and over.
So we always have the underlying, like, You know, people who had a problem with us, a lot of times it's crazy.
I just like, these are just jealous people, like jealous.
Like, journalists, we're not necessarily journalists.
We just try to make people laugh.
But it escalated times a gazillion when Trump got elected.
And as you said, I've never said my politics.
I think people would actually be surprised to learn my politics.
But we, people have, who don't like him, have associated me with him and Republicans, and they don't look at anything I say, do, listen.
Tucker Carlson, I've gone on his show a bunch.
They don't listen to what I say on that show.
They just go, Oh, he goes on Tucker Carlson.
If you don't like him, you don't like me with no effort to pay any attention to anything I say.
And, you know, I have people, Hey, you want to repair your image?
Maybe don't go on Tucker Carlson or don't interview president Trump, which I did.
And I will never bow to that type of pressure. I will never do it.
The president of the United States asked me to interview him.
Of course I'm going to interview him. Guess what?
If Biden invited me to interview him, I go interview him.
Tucker Carlson, I do my research. I make informed decisions. He's been good
to me.
He's fair to me. I go on his show. If you want, and that's why I said I'll go on any show. If CNN or NBC,
that's actually the shows I want to go on because the, it's crazy in this country.
The only people who will invite me on their shows or programs generally are like-minded with me.
I want somebody who disagrees with me because I want to hear their answers to what I just said to you.
Like, I don't care whether you hate me or love me.
If I show you DMs of this girl after the fact in the police report, how can anybody Justify what this article was.
And by the way, the article, the girl who wrote it, the woman, she deleted her entire Twitter history before she did it.
My lawyers say that's because she doesn't want proof she had an agenda when she wrote it.
And they put the thing behind a paywall and monetize it.
So a lot of people don't like me.
And if you say, hey, we have these stories about Dave, pay to read it.
It's a money play.
It's disgusting.
Yeah.
Dave, you're a man of your word.
You said you'd go on any show.
Candidly, I didn't think you'd come on.
And Jim said no.
He's agreed to come on.
So you weren't kidding.
Thank you for your time.
And listen, good luck, seriously, with all of your business endeavors.
I'm not kidding.
One bite pizza.
I know you're an entrepreneur and they're having a tough time keeping it on the shelves.
You've got that.
You've got barstool.
You've got a lot going on.
Thanks for coming on and defending yourself, man.
Thank you.
The one thing, and I'm sure I'm out of time, but the one thing I'd say with the One Bite Pizza, the one thing we've been able to do to thank the fans, how canceled culture survives is by threatening advertisers.
Our audience has been great.
The silent majority can't stay silent.
They can't.
They have to support.
That's the only way you can cancel somebody, if the fans don't stick up for what they believe in.
Well, you've got a lot of fans, Dave, and they certainly aren't taken.
They're not bending the knee in front of anyone.
Thanks for coming on, man.
Really appreciate it, Dave.
And thanks for what you did with the restaurant fund, too.
You know, we were happy to help out.
You did a great job.
You got it.
That was Dave Portnoy, folks.
You got it.
Of Barstool Sports.
That was Dave Portnoy of Barstool Sports.
Was on the radio show last week.
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This past week we had one of our most inspirational guests we've ever had on the show, Shemeika Michelle.
She's a contributor to Jason Whitlock's great podcast, Fearless, and she has an incredible, incredible story, rising up from really troubling circumstances in her past.
She's a great commentator on race and culture.
Listen to this incredible guest.
You're going to love this.
Shemeika Michelle.
This putrid, you know, sometimes I forget.
I've heard that so many times now.
You know how it just it is.
You know what I'm saying?
You hear something a lot.
You just forget the putrid swamp.
I know you shouldn't laugh at your own stuff.
It's ridiculous.
Let me not waste any time.
I want to get to an amazing guest.
And believe me, I am not over hyping or overselling the power.
Thank you for having me, Dan.
Michelle who lit up my show unfiltered on Fox so much so I had to stop answering
emails about her. Shameka, welcome to the radio show this time we appreciate your
time. Thank you for having me Dan I appreciate that. Oh my gosh I appreciate
You went on my Fox show and you ruined my whole weekend.
The whole weekend I'm answering emails about Shemeika Michelle.
Where did you find Shemeika?
I didn't find Shemeika Michelle.
She's been out there forever.
I just saw a clip.
You were amazing.
You have been an outspoken advocate against Bull, you, Phil, and the rest, and a lot of this CRT nonsense.
And one of the things we addressed on the show Is this critical race theory, how you found it offensive, you know, trying to teach your daughter this, and how they play these euphemisms games, Shameka, you know, they change the name of it and they kind of move it around.
You know, what do you find so offensive about critical race theory?
I know what I think, but the audience wants to hear what you think.
For one, I find it offensive that they act as if black kids can't do anything.
They want to teach us that we're oppressed.
They want to teach us that we can't be in the academically challenged classes.
So they just want to get rid of all of them.
That's what's offensive to me as if we are, I mean, you can train a dog.
So if you can train a dog to sit and stay to roll over, you can't train a black child to excel?
That's what's offensive to me is that they're saying, oh, we can train a dog, but you black kids, it's just too bad for you.
I don't like that.
And I don't like that they are making it seem as if white children just come out the womb, excelling, smart, privileged.
That's foolishness to me.
So that's what I find very offensive and to add that they are insulting us as if that shouldn't be offensive.
You know, again, it doesn't matter what you call it.
What are you teaching?
What are the components of what you're teaching?
That's a problem, and to ask us if we can't figure that out as parents, that everybody on the right is just a country bumpkin and doesn't know any better, that's offensive.
Now, I'm a country bumpkin.
I like chow chow on my collard greens, but That doesn't mean we're not intelligent.
We're talking to Shameka Michelle, author, contributor on cultural issues, and just a very, very smart, intelligent person I really respect.
Shameka, you know, one of the things I really liked about your appearance on my show this past weekend is Listen, you're not pulling punches with, you know, either side of the political aisle on any of these issues.
You know, the country does have a history with race.
And a lot of it's pretty darn disturbing.
I mean, Jim Crow was real.
It's not a fairy tale.
Slavery was real.
And, you know, we do have a history in our past, sadly, that should be highlighted.
Because if you don't acknowledge your history and some of the horrors of it, you're doomed to repeat it again.
But the way to correct and not repeat those mistakes Is literally to not repeat the mistakes.
I mean, teaching kids in critical race theory to not figuratively, but literally judge each other by the color of their skin and not their character and actions towards each other is exactly repeating the mistakes of the past, is it not?
It's the exact same thing, correct.
They just want to put one this time over the other.
And I say, you know, when I saw Congress going in with those kente cloths around their neck, to me, I saw whitehood.
It's the same thing with the Democrats.
They just like to play these games of division.
So, if we're gonna come together and actually judge each other by the content of our character, we gotta stop them.
Anytime we see this, we have to stop it in its tracks.
Period.
And Shamika, we're talking to Shamika Michelle.
You know, what I've always found offensive, I've run for office a couple times before, is the way you say, and a lot of people do this, politicians on both sides of the aisle, I'm not absolving either party, I want to be clear, but you see it a lot on the Democrat side.
The way they talk about black voters, like you said in the beginning, like they're animals, like they're too dumb to figure things out.
When you do these man-on-the-street interviews with a lot of these rich, white, liberal kids, you're like, hey, you know, why is voter ID racist?
And you hear all these just absurd things out of their mouths that are so patently offensive.
Well, you know, black people don't know how to get IDs.
They don't know where the DMV is.
And you're like, Have you ever met a black person?
What planet are you living on?
Where people who are black don't know how to get IDs and yet this is considered perfectly acceptable behavior on the left.
Exactly.
They acted like I had to check my own ankles to see if I had a ball and chain because I'm thinking, I thought I was free.
I didn't know I would leave my house and somebody would come riding up on a horse wondering, how did I get out?
I mean, I had to check myself.
I think I'm free.
I feel free, but I also know I'm free.
That's how the Democrats treat us.
Like I thought I was free.
You know, since I came into the world, I've been free.
So it's crazy the way that Democrats are allowed to talk and people rarely check them on it.
And they think that on the right, oh, we're just so uptight.
No, we actually see that what you're saying is crazy.
And so we're going to point it out.
I know I am every chance I get.
We're talking to Shameka Michelle.
Shameka, you have a very powerful personal story.
It's not that you don't have, as you know, the buzz term on the left is the lived experience.
Well, if anyone's lived an experience, it's been you.
I mean, your story is incredible, and that's why I wanted you on the Fox show.
I wanted everybody to see and hear what you were about, but your story is pretty powerful.
If you're just comfortable giving the audience an idea of how you got to this point in your life and what happened to you, we'd appreciate it.
Well, I'm a product of rape, so my mother was raped at 14, I was born to her at 15, and I just always say I was never given an excuse to be less than.
Like, that was never a go-ahead to be a failure.
If anything, she made sure that I understood that, okay, yes, I may not have been planned.
My way of getting here was not ideal, but I was here and I had one life and I needed to live that life and put it to good use.
So I just feel like that I have a purpose for being here.
I think that nothing happens just by happenstance.
And so I've come this far and I've been through so much.
I've done so much in life.
I have a very colorful story for anyone that actually wants to look into it all, but I've overcome.
And so I just feel like I don't have to sit and sing.
We shall overcome anymore.
We have overcome as a people so much.
That's the only reason I'm here.
I'm able to have a conversation with you is because the things, the strides that we've made as a people,
not just in the black community, but in America, period.
So we can't overlook those things, you know?
And so I'm one of these people that I say, "Hey, look, if I can do it, anybody can do it."
And I truly believe that, which is why I want us to keep speaking out.
A lot of times we hear people on the right saying, oh, well, Black people vote 90% Democrat all the time.
Well, that's true, but I think a lot of it is just because we don't know and we don't have the information.
So I think the more you're given information and you see What side, or who, or how you can actually get out of those low places, you'll begin to do that.
And I just really feel like if I did, anybody can.
Let me say first, I mean me and I can see my producer on camera, we're in awe of your personal story.
I mean, what you had to overcome, and you and your mother, and that you've gotten to this point and been such a success.
Um, it's just so beyond impressive.
I'm like, for the first time in a long time at a loss for words, I always talk too much.
Um, but I, I agree with what you said at the end too.
I, I ran for office in Maryland, which has the largest population of well-to-do black donors anywhere in the country.
The largest, um, population of upper middle class black voters is in Prince George's County, Maryland.
And we would go and knock on doors and eventually we kind of, you know, play this little game because no Republican had knocked on doors there in forever.
And we started knocking on doors and we'd tell people we were Republicans first.
And a lot of times we'd get kind of a cold response, Shamika.
And then what we started doing is people would ask, you know, are you a Republican or a Democrat?
We'd say, let me just talk to you for a minute.
And then you tell me what I am.
And then we would just talk about, you know, God, country, economic opportunity, you know, low taxes and things like that, school choice.
And I can't tell you how many people were like, oh, you know, you're a Democrat.
And I was like, no, no, I'm a Republican.
And it kind of buttresses your point here and reinforces your point that if you don't talk to people and tell them what you stand for, they have no idea what the damn party stands for because you didn't talk to them.
And that's what's frustrating.
Exactly, exactly.
I had no idea actually that I was more conservative.
When I started speaking out on social media, I just thought I was talking about common sense, how important family was, how important faith was, whatever your faith is, how important that is, how important it is to do for yourself and kind of pick yourself up and Like, I thought I was just talking common sense, and then I kept getting banned from Facebook, and I'm thinking, well, what in the world is going on?
So I started putting content out on Twitter, and I'm like, why are these conservatives blocking to me?
I thought I was a Democrat, although I've been unaffiliated since I could vote.
I thought I was Democrat because that's what my family was.
That's how I was raised.
I had no idea, though, that things that I hold dear were conservative values because no one ever talked to me.
No one ever told me.
I found out just because I'm like, this is just smart.
This is just common sense.
Why don't we all think this way?
And I had no idea that I actually was more conservative.
Well, Shameka, I can almost guarantee you we're talking to Shameka Michelle, folks.
Remember the name.
Look her up on social media.
Follow her.
Pick up her book.
Follow her.
She is a source of wisdom in a really a vortex of stupid that we are living in right now in this world.
We need beacons of light like you.
I can guarantee you conservatives will continue to flock to you because you speak the truth.
You speak about personal empowerment.
You speak about God-given rights and liberty.
You speak about empowering yourself and not relying on others and disavowing victimhood.
And it's an honor and a pleasure to have you on the show.
I really hope you'll come back.
Thanks for your time, Shameka.
I really appreciate it.
Thank you for having me.
I'll come back anytime.
Thank you.
Folks, that was Shameka Michelle.
Now you can see why if you missed the Fox show this weekend, her appearance on the show burned down my email and ruined my whole weekend had I answered thousands of emails from friends saying, who is that?
And I spent the whole day responding.
That was Shemeika Michelle.
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Okay, up next we talk to Jim Jordan, author of the new book, Do What You Said You Would Do.
We asked him about the vaccine mandates.
What are the internal machine machinations going on up on the hill?
What's the swamp machine doing about this?
He had some great answers and how we can fight back.
Also about the supply chain as well.
Check it out.
Yeah, here he is, folks.
Listen, it is drinking from a fire hose time in the news cycle.
You got Rittenhouse.
You've got, of course, a day to thank our wonderful veterans.
Thank you for your service to this country this day and every day.
maelstrom trying to fight for freedom and liberty is my good friend, Congressman Jim Jordan.
Welcome back to the show, sir.
Good to be with you, Dan.
Thanks for all you're doing.
The country appreciates your leadership in so many ways, so thank you.
Well, thank you, sir.
We've been friends for a long time.
You have a new book coming out.
I want to make sure everybody gets the title because this is one of the good guys here.
And I'd appreciate if you go pick it up.
It's called Do What You Said You Would Do.
Now, that's an interesting title for a book, Congressman, because a lot of people up on the Hill, unlike yourself, don't do what they say they're going to do.
They say they'll fight for freedom and stuff.
And we got this vaccine mandate.
And I don't want to stigmatize everyone.
A lot of good Republicans are fighting against these things.
But you know, sadly, this should be a unified effort against these things.
No, it should be.
And look, you've been speaking out, others.
I mean, I have, we got, we got business people, I had a guy who called me last week.
He's got 600 employees, trucking company.
And I asked him, I said, Ross, how many, how many of your truck drivers, how many of them are, aren't vaccinated?
He said half, over half.
And it's like, what is that?
So there's the liberty, the fundamental liberty question, but there's also the practical implications and consequences of this.
to our economy and Joe Biden doesn't seem to care.
All the left and all their craziness, they just wanna keep plowing ahead
with all their authoritarian, totalitarian policies.
And yeah, we better speak out, but here's what I think.
Courage is contagious.
I mean, there's you, there's Aaron Rodgers, there's Kyrie Irving, there's people in the sports world,
there's the Chicago Police Union, there's parents who've been showing up
at school board meetings.
It's growing, and that is a good sign to see a good thing happening.
But a lot of it's happening, frankly, because of your leadership.
And again, that's why we appreciate you so much.
No, well, thank you, sir.
I appreciate the kind words.
We're talking to Jim Jordan, author of the very soon-to-be-released book.
You can pick it up now.
It'll be at your doorstep in no time.
Do what you said you would do, a principle I wish more would embody.
Sir, I think what bothers so many people about these vaccine mandates Are that they're so antithetical to what this constitutional republic is supposed to stand for.
Candidly, they're not pro-science, they're anti-science in the way that they're so broadly applied.
I mean, I had a radio host on my show not that long ago who was told by his doctor, very credibly, the doctor went to bat for him and wasn't making it up and said, hey, he's prone to clotting and we're not sure the vaccine is right for him right now.
And yet you have people like Joe Biden and Kamala Harris who, regardless of your politics, we can both acknowledge as a matter of fact, they're not MDs, they're not virologists or epidemiologists.
They can't even do politics, Mr. Jordan.
And they're doing a sweeping nationwide mandate demanding everybody get vaccinated.
That's not pro-science.
That's pro-stupid.
No, it's pro-big government.
It's pro-control.
We had this spectacle a few weeks ago in a committee hearing Where Dr. Mark Green, a colleague of mine, a great guy, was talking about his concerns with the vaccine, with the mandate, with the origins, all the stuff we've been talking about.
He was talking about it.
And then he was followed.
Jamie Raskin gave him a lecture and started talking about science.
And I happened to be the next one up in the hearing.
And I said, well, it's interesting that you got the lawyer lecturing the medical doctor on the science of COVID.
I mean, this is where it's at.
So yeah, it's frightening.
And you add to it.
Dr. Fauci and all the misleading things, all the lies he has told us over the last year and a half, and no accounting for natural immunity.
I mean, that's when it just gets me.
Everyone else accounts for it.
We know instinctively that if you had COVID and got through it, your immune system is strong.
So, as you said, it's anti-science, but it certainly is all about control, and that's what these guys are after.
We're talking to Congressman Jim Jordan, author of the upcoming book, Do What You Said You Would Do.
One last thing on this before I move on to others.
What bothers me about it, too, is how the media stigmatizes guys like you and me and other patriots out there who believe in things like liberty and freedom, hopefully not antiquated ideas.
The effort to stigmatize us with nonsense, you know, Neanderthal-type labels like You guys are anti-vaccine.
You're literally just making that up.
There is nothing I've said.
I am not a vaccine scientist.
I had lymphoma.
My doctor thought it was a good idea to get vaccinated.
I've never hid that fact from my audience.
I don't now.
I'm not anti-anything.
I'm anti-stupid.
And this mandate is not based in science.
And it's clear that the media is telling a story, Congressman, not the story.
They're just adding fuel to the fire here.
Right.
You're pro-freedom.
That's what you are.
And that's what this country is supposed to be about.
I mean, more than any word, when you think about America, you think about freedom, the ability to set goals and chase them down and make them happen.
And yet you get labeled with this all.
But that's the press.
I mean, that's who they are.
They lie about everything.
The thing I keep coming back to is, This Fauci guy, and yet the press makes him out to be some, you know, right next to Jesus.
And it's like, Fauci knew on January 31st, 2020, he gets an email from a virologist who he's given our tax money to over the years, Dr. Christian Anderson.
And that email says, virus looks engineered, virus not consistent with evolutionary theory.
Now that is a fancy way of saying this virus came from the lab.
And what did Fauci do?
He went into full tilt overdrive to cover that up.
And for the next year said, Oh no, no, it didn't.
It didn't come from the lab.
It was a bat to a pangolin to a hippopotamus to Joe Rogan, and then we all get it.
I mean, so it's like, this is craziness.
So we can't point out that stuff.
No, they're just going to call us names when we when we try to highlight the facts and the truth and the science.
But I think the American people get it.
They see through it.
And you know, in spite of the... No, I think so, too.
They see through it all.
Congressman, listen, you're in the business of politics.
I bet sometimes you wish you weren't, but you are.
You're in the business of politics.
Politics is the projection of power based on what people will get behind you collectively, you know, and support you with.
The polls are not in their favor.
It's clear as day.
Just look at them.
But I want to ask you a couple other things.
So you're up on the hill, uh, living this every day.
Again, I bet sometimes you wish you were anyplace else, but we had this dreaded, uh, you know, fake infrastructure bill, which was loaded with a bunch of pork.
It had some hard infrastructure stuff that candidly, I think were local projects, not national projects, but that's besides the point.
We don't have the money, Congressman.
We're going through an inflationary crisis right now.
The government is printing money.
The treasury is issuing debt denominated instruments.
The federal reserve then prints the money and buys them.
This is monopoly money now.
Why, what is it with these 13 Republicans?
They wouldn't, that supported this bill, they wouldn't even hold their votes from what I read in the paper long enough to let the Democrats sort it out on their own side.
I mean, how are we going to win if this continues to happen?
No, it is very frustrating.
Particularly, as you said, those who had, my understanding was, talking to our leadership, that they had promised to hold their votes until after the Democrats put up 218.
And if they couldn't, then no deal is not going to pass, which is exactly what we wanted, which would have been best for the country.
But they went in and voted early.
It's like, come on!
So it is frustrating.
It is wrong.
Let's just hope Joe Manchin and Senator Sinema hold out on this next bill.
Because as bad as this one was, and it was bad, the next one coming, I mean, it's not just the $2 trillion in spending that's coming next.
It's the policy.
It's the bad energy policy.
It's the tax increases.
The continuation of the Democrats.
The Democrats' economic policies may be, Dan, the dumbest one I've ever seen.
The dumbest economic policy in history, because it's basically lock down the economy, spend like crazy, pay people not to work, and then for everyone who is working, we're getting ready to raise your taxes.
Such a deal!
That's how stupid these guys are, but that's what's coming, so let's hope that Manchin and Sinema hold firm, because I think they got the votes, unfortunately, in the House to pass this next one.
It's going to come down to the Senate.
Well, that's what I was going to ask you.
We're talking to Congressman Jim Jordan, author of the upcoming book.
You can order it now.
It'll be at your doorstep in no time.
Do what you said you would do.
Amen to that.
I agree with you that the illogic of this is transparent when you read what the bill is.
So what they want to do is juice the economy, in their words, with a bunch of social spending to give you money, and then in turn suck the exact same money, Congressman, out of the economy via the biggest tax hike we've seen in decades.
Again, it makes no sense.
And you being up there, again, living there every day and experiencing the hill swamp environment with these folks, is your sense that Manchin is going to hold the line?
I have an Axios piece I'm going to read later on the show that apparently the headline inflation number yesterday, which was outrageous, the highest in 30 years, has him spooked a little bit.
Do you think he's going to fold at the last minute?
I mean, I know the reading mind things and stuff, but...
Yeah, I'm optimistic.
I'm actually just as optimistic with Senator Sinema.
I actually served with her in the House a few years back and, you know, I don't think it helps you I don't think that's going to work.
I hope Sinema holds firm.
I think she will.
and start filming them, trying to, that's typically not the best way to persuade someone.
Just like when the Democrats, their election message a week ago
was government smarter than parents and maybe we should get rid of the police.
That's not what Americans really want.
And so I don't think that's gonna work.
I hope Sinema holds firm.
I think she will.
And I'm optimistic about Joe Manchin, but we'll have to see how it all shakes out.
Talking to Congressman Jim Jordan, author of the soon to be released book,
Congressman, I got to let you go, but I just want to say one last time, you know, when I ran for office, folks, the two of the hardest interviews, you know, you want endorsements, so you go interview with people.
The hardest interviews were Senator Mike Lee and Congressman Jim Jordan.
And I got to tell you, to this day, I tell everyone that you behind the scenes are the exact person you are in front of the camera.
You ask questions that were, you are such an advocate for life, for the pro-life movement.
And I walked out of that interview and I was like, I was like, man, this guy knows his stuff.
So you did us wrestlers and grapplers proud.
You're a good man.
Thanks for your time and best of luck with the book too.
All right.
Thanks a lot.
Take care.
You got it.
There you go, folks.
He's the real deal.
I went through that interview with him and I was really, I was impressed by the depth of knowledge and understanding about the Liberty Movement and the defense of life, most importantly.
You don't have life, you don't have anything.
We don't defend life in the womb.
You don't have no taxes to pay, and you don't gotta worry about school choice, because you ain't even there to make those decisions.
Life.
Gotta defend life.
It's the very essence of conservatism.
That was our interview with Congressman Jim Jordan from the radio show last week.
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