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May 21, 2019 - The Dan Bongino Show
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One of them is lying # 984 (Ep 984)

In this episode I address the deeply troubling connection many of us may have missed. I also address the latest revelations that expose either Jim Comey, or Loretta Lynch, as liars. Finally I debunk liberal lies about healthcare solutions. News Picks:Either Jim Comey or Loretta Lynch is lying as Lynch’s recently released testimony indicates. President Trump loses court case over his financial records. Devin Nunes says the FBI is hiding key documents about Russiagate figure Joseph Mifsud.  After this confused Republican congressman calls for Trump’s impeachment he immediately picks up a primary challenger. Margot Cleveland’s latest piece asks the question, “was the Trump presidency spied on”? Key Republican Congressman says declassification is right around the corner. Trey Gowdy says there are bombshell tapes providing evidence of George Papadopoulos’s innocence. This radical left-winger is hinting at a “bloody revolution.”  Copyright Dan Bongino All Rights Reserved. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Get ready to hear the truth about America on a show that's not immune to the facts with your host, Dan Bongino.
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Producer Joe, how are you today?
I'm doing pretty good, except I misplaced my Harry's and used something else.
I feel like I was shaving with a garden weasel.
Shave it with a weed whacker.
Pretty much.
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It's awful.
And then it gets even worse when the water on your face dries out and your face dries up.
Oh yes.
Then you're like, you don't even want to move.
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I know the feeling.
Yeah man.
It's not even a Harry's razors day.
Go get Harry.
Don't use anything else.
I know.
I happen to be one time on the road I was traveling and I asked the hotel I go oh man I forgot my Harry's razor I say you guys got that they sent me up some like 1940 Russian Soviet Union razor it was about as as blunt as a marble and I was like And I remember going on TV with cuts all over my face.
I'm like, give me a favor, get the spray paint out.
Don't even get the makeup.
Get the Crayolas out.
Start covering my face up.
Oh, nothing worse than a bad razor, brother.
I feel for you, man.
But I'm doing great, dude.
Good.
Other than that, it's great to hear.
Other than having his face torn up with a chainsaw.
Alright, listen, I've got a stacked show for you today.
I've got some Devin Nunes bombshells last night on Shannon Bream's show on Fox, but I want to start out today with an article that really blew my mind.
It's a piece of the Washington Examiner.
I'll get to it in a second.
Again, leftists insinuating, Joe, that there's going to be some bloody revolution if they don't get their way.
Really, fellas and ladies?
Are you really sure about that?
Yes.
I'll get to that in a second.
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So I read this article this morning at the Washington Examiner.
Tom Rogan wrote it.
It's in the show notes.
Please check out the show notes today.
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The article is titled in the Washington Examiner today by Tom Rogan.
It's really good.
The Immorality of Nathan Robinson's Far-Left American Revolution.
What is he talking about?
Inside the piece, Rogan writes that this Harvard character, who apparently some kind of a doctoral student, Nathan Robinson, wrote this piece, and he says inside the piece that insinuating there's gonna be some kind of a bloody revolution.
Let me read this to you, because this speaks to the absurdity of the left.
I'm gonna annihilate this ridiculous, stupid piece in a second.
Nathan Robinson demonstrated as much Monday when he optimistically warned that revolution is coming to America.
Keep in mind, this is a leftist writing this show.
Writing in the Guardian, Robinson explains that America is now imprisoned by a, Joe, quote, totalitarian class of a few dozen rich white men in the Senate and on the Supreme Court who disenfranchised the majority of Americans.
Robinson says these men are destined for destruction.
History's bloody revolution.
History's bloody revolutions show us what happens when this gap becomes too large and the government entirely ceases to effectively represent the governed.
Robinson excitedly continues, conservatives will continue to push unpopular policies on an unwilling United States.
But it's unclear how long people will accept having decisions made for them by a few dozen rich white men.
Okay, three takeaways from Nathan Robinson's complete absurdity in The Guardian.
Number one, ladies and gentlemen, in case you missed the memo, conservatism And principled Republican ideas, or unprincipled Republicans, I'm talking about the ones that align with conservatism, align with traditional Republican ideas, are about liberty and personal freedom, Joe, in case Nathan Robinson missed the memo or is unfamiliar what we're fighting for.
Now, why does that matter?
Because, ladies and gentlemen, nobody fights to oppress people.
As passionately as people fight to avoid being oppressed.
Nobody fights as passionately to take away the liberty of others as those who passionately fight to get their own liberty back or to maintain the liberty they have.
Nobody.
So let me just serve a warning to Nathan.
Because unlike Nathan, I abhor violence.
And I'm gonna get to that in a minute too.
Don't ever mistake my words for condoning violence as a first resort.
There's no circumstance, at least in political fights, where that should be your first resort.
And I've been clear on this from day one.
Unless you're looking for a fight for some bizarre reason, which speaks to your issue, not mine, as a first resort.
Ignoring the role of violence in human history to fight for liberty is naive and simply stupid.
The American Revolution, where we were being taxed without being represented by a British government that wanted to impose their will on us.
But somehow, Joe, this Nathan Robinson, this ridiculous, absurd snowflake, writing in The Guardian that him and his liberal snowflakes and his s'mores-roasting, snuggie-wearing crowd are gonna somehow engage in some bloody revolution where they take back the government to oppress people, acting like we're all gonna sit back and just take it.
Nathan, you got another thing coming.
You have ignored history completely.
It's a video game, dude.
Totally to them.
Life's a video game to them, Joe.
It all works in the video game in whatever.
Man of War or Dogs of War or whatever stupid video game you're playing.
There you go.
I'm not knocking gamers by the way.
Do your thing.
I'm just saying.
You know, because they get upset and I don't blame them.
Some people enjoy it.
I enjoy a lot of weird things too.
I enjoy beating the snot out of myself in Brazilian Jiu Jitsu and ripping my joints apart.
A lot of gamers would be like, that sounds pretty dumb to me.
And you'd be right.
I am falling apart.
But don't think for a second that this translates to real life.
Folks, I'm not suggesting that oppressing people and taking away their liberty may not work for the short run.
Even the mid-run.
Cubans have been doing it forever, Joe.
Yeah.
North Koreans seem to be, the North Korean hacks seem to be having a run at it.
Yeah.
But ladies and gentlemen, even the most powerful regimes in human history eventually fall when people get tired of the boot of oppression on their neck.
The Soviet Union.
India getting tired of their occupation by the British.
Eventually, people get tired of having their liberty taken away, and they fight passionately for their own freedom.
Real, tangible, God-given, God's-finger-on-your-shoulder freedom.
The freedom to work for a wage, to have your kids go to the school of their choice, to practice your own religion, to live your life free of a surveillance state.
These are God-given freedoms.
These are not granted by man.
We are not asking for permission.
So takeaway number one, Nathan, If you think for a second, your tyrannical leftist impulse to spy on Americans, to engage in your police state tactics, to take our money, to take our school choice, to imprison Christians and others and attack them because they don't believe in your leftist ideology?
You think that's gonna go down in your bloody revolution without a hitch?
You are sadly mistaken, brother.
Takeaway number two.
And I brought this up before.
Do you understand that this guy, Nathan Robinson, what he's writing is not unusual at all.
We're being ruled by white- in a constitutional republic where we voted on the president?
And we just got done with eight years of Obama?
You're being- what are you being oppressed in?
What?
Trump cut your tax- he gave you back more of your money to spend it on how you wish.
That's oppression!
How is that oppress- oppression if you- that's oppression for imbeciles!
Trump is oppressing me.
I'm a woman.
How?
How exactly?
What rights do you not have under the Trump administration?
What rights do you not have?
I don't understand what you're talking about.
You're just making this up.
He's cut the bureaucratic red tape to get the government out of your life.
What kind of tyrant decreases the power of government?
But Joe, it's not enough for them.
This is the point, I'm sorry I get a little sidetracked, but this is... It is not enough for the left to win.
The arc of history lately has been bending in their direction.
How long we've been saying that?
We can't ignore that.
Yeah, a long time.
I mean, it has been bending in their direction.
You got New York legalizing basically infanticide, abortion up to the time of delivery, social issues they've won repeatedly on, You've had eight years of Barack Obama.
You had garbage Obamacare instilled.
You've got government spending at the highest levels in human history.
What exactly are you being oppressed about?
Keep in mind, all these are horrible ideas.
But they have won on these ideas.
And you feel like you're being oppressed.
How exactly is that?
Remember, it's not good enough for them to win.
Pro-abortion forces, they want to put out a business.
People who advocate for pro-life get people deplatformed.
It is not good enough for them to win.
So that's point number two.
That the left has a tyrannical impulse we cannot ignore.
That is not our impulse as conservatives.
I don't want to empower the government to control my economic life, my healthcare life, my education life, or my religious life.
But I don't want them to empower yours either.
There's no hypocrisy there.
You want to institute your set of social values on me and you want the government to punish me for practicing mine.
It's not good enough for you to win.
You want to punish.
Remember what I told you.
People never accept the oppression.
They never accept that with the passion you want to oppress them with.
Hence revolutions throughout human history for liberty.
The ones against never hold in the long term.
But here's takeaway number three, and I want you to listen very closely to this one.
And ladies and gentlemen, I don't say this to you in this, hey, listen, listen to how tough I am, kind of.
That's all garbage.
The people who talk about being tough are usually the softest people of all, to be candid.
I mean, I've been around really tough men and women my entire life, being a cop, being an agent, spending most of my life in mixed martial arts around genuinely tough people who fight for a living.
They lose fights, they lose their employment.
And I can tell you, the toughest guys I know Rarely, if ever, talk about being tough.
I'll give you an example, Matt Serra, who was the UFC welterweight champion at one point.
Matt Serra, he beat George St.
Pierre in the biggest upset in UFC history.
I can tell you candidly, I trained with Matt for a little while in East Meadow.
Up in Long Island, and then over in this other place in Huntington, and had him down to the Secret Service Training Center, put on a seminar where we were teaching our students grappling.
He was one of the toughest guys I ever met, and I can tell you right now, you'll never meet a happier warrior out there.
No, I'm serious.
I go to his Instagram, look at his videos.
Smiling, always joking around, never telling you what a B.A.
he is, bad, you could figure out the rest.
I'm going to kick you, but none of that at all.
Matter of fact, there's a video of a guy attacking him in Las Vegas, who, of course, he puts the guy down in two seconds and mounts him.
And what does he do?
He's laughing at the guy.
Calm down, buddy.
It's out there.
You can see it yourself.
The toughest guys in the world never talk about being tough.
Yeah, I agree.
Always.
I know you've been around them too.
I know Joe's been around rockers and some, believe me, some hard-edged people who had some serious issues.
Yeah, and the toughest ones were the nicest and quietest.
Always.
This generation of liberals That wants a bloody revolution in violence is a coddled bunch of snowflakes who has never faced, forget about violent adversity, many of them, most of them have never even faced ideological adversity.
They've grown up in coddled schools where a lot of the teachers are liberal.
They've gone to colleges where if you're a liberal, you're celebrated.
You never have to think an idea through.
Obama's great.
Yeah, Obama's great.
We love Obama.
I like Trump.
Kill him!
Get him out of here!
Execute him!
I mean, really?
You want to start a fight with us, conservatives who are largely former law enforcement, people who've lived in the real world in high-stress business environments, people who are military folks?
You want to start a bloody revolution with us who faced ideological adversity and basically, in many cases, violent attacks on college campuses?
You doubt me?
Look up the videos.
Conservative attacked on college campus.
And just sit there all day and watch them.
You want to start a fight with us?
You know why they want to do that, Joe?
They want to do it because they have no experience with real-world violence and the horrors of it.
Mm-hmm.
Ladies and gentlemen, I can't express to you enough, having been a police officer and actually having been shot at, I don't like to talk about these stories because, again, the people who need to talk about this stuff always seem to be trying to impress you with their own bona fides.
I'm not trying to do that.
But there's a real fear there, when you get in a foot pursuit with a guy who just let a round go, and you're chasing him around a corner, and as you're chasing him around a corner, you realize he could be standing on the corner, pointing a gun at you, and you forgot that as you're getting ready to turn the corner, and then as you think it, your life flashes in front of your eyes for a second, like, uh-oh, what if he's standing there with the gun?
Oh, you never thought about that, Snowflakes?
As you were sitting there reading your Marx-Engels reader in your urban studies class?
You never thought about that?
Sitting there with your malamars and your hot cocoa and your milk with your Snowflake professor with a beard six feet long who's never had a real job in his entire life?
It's never occurred to you what real violence is really like, but you want a bloody revolution?
You're a loser.
Cowards.
Chumps.
Losers.
Fakes.
You're phonies.
Violence.
Are you kidding me?
I had a guy call in a radio station I used to host in Washington, D.C.
once.
Guy was on our side, by the way.
Ideologically.
I'm not kidding.
I'll never forget it.
It was on a Saturday show.
Suggesting he was ready to take up arms.
I said, you are?
Really?
Like I said, he was on our side of the argument.
I said, that's fascinating.
I said to him, Joe, who's your delegate?
He was from Virginia.
He goes, what's the point?
Let me get this straight.
You're ready to go to take up arms?
And you don't even know who your delegate is?
You haven't even lobbied your delegate for change?
Do you understand how awful violence is?
Have you ever been under a 300-pound dude in a grappling match that's controlled who's choking you out and you can't breathe and you start to see stars and then you wake up five minutes later with a bunch of guys shaking your ankles up in the air to get the blood back to your head?
You ever experience that?
You ever experienced running around a corner thinking a guy's gonna put a round in your skull?
You ever been in a fight when you're a cop in a domestic violence situation with a husband who's got nothing to lose, who starts pummeling you with an ironing board?
Does that ever happen?
You ever experience that feeling like, is this gonna stop or am I gonna be dead?
I'm not sure if in your basket weaving class, with your 70-year-old professor, who's a Marxist revolutionary, with your Oreos and your warmed-up milk, you really understand the consequences of the bloody revolution you idiots are calling for.
Reminds me of a story I once heard about the initiation of the Civil War in the United States.
Where when it first started, there was a battlefield scenario.
Forgive me, I'm not a Civil War historian.
I forget exactly what you told me.
Feel free to email me if you remember the details.
But people actually showed up to watch the fight thinking, oh, well this will be interesting in the beginning of the Civil War.
And then, minutes in, as cannonballs start ripping legs off, all of a sudden people are like, what the?
It's real, man.
It's not a joke.
Bloody revolution?
Are you insane?
Are you nuts?
You lunatics on the left.
Are you crazy?
A bloody revolution.
You better be darn careful the fight you start asking for.
Because it's not one we want, and I can assure you, it is most certainly not one you want.
Disgraceful.
Remember this line?
Nobody ever fights to oppress people as passionately as people fight to avoid being oppressed.
Never forget that.
Thugs on the left.
Read that piece.
It's in the show notes in the Washington Examiner by Tom Rogan.
It's a good one.
And by the way, Rogans no, like, big Trumpist or anything like that.
That's fine.
I support the president.
You know, he goes either way on certain issues.
But his piece is very good.
Nathan Robinson.
Snuggie wearer.
Malamar Oreo eater.
Sitting there with his warmed up milk.
I think we should have a bloody revolution.
Good luck, Nathan.
Chump.
Tell that to some of the cops I know.
Get their butts kicked every day if they're out there on the streets.
You want a bloody revolution?
What a joke, idiot.
All right.
I wasn't even going to start with that today.
All right.
Listen, I want to get to some Devin Nunes stuff last night.
So Joe, keep the Nunes translator handy.
Nunes was on Shannon Bream's show last night.
And again, Proving you're not wasting your time on the show.
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So, Devin Nunes is on Shannon Bream last night, and a couple of tactical nukes on the battlefield of ideas in the Spygate case get launched.
But first, before we can start, Joe, I hate to keep going back to you, but I definitely need you to initiate the Nunes translator, please.
No problem.
Initiating Nunes translator, Dan.
Okay, thank you very much.
I will translate what Nunes says in these two clips.
Clip one.
This is Devin Nunes talking about Joseph Mifsud.
Again, I know your regular listeners know who he is, but just to be clear and set the table for everyone else, Joseph Mifsud starts this whole thing, allegedly.
He is a Maltese professor who meets with Papadopoulos in April, George Papadopoulos, who's on the Trump team, and allegedly tells Trump that the, uh, excuse me, tells Papadopoulos that the Russians have some emails on Hillary.
So the Democrats' whole case is, look, this Russian, Russian asset, Joseph Massoud, told the Trump team person about Russian dirt on Hillary and emails and all that stuff.
But, Was Mifsud really a Russian asset?
If he isn't, their whole case falls apart.
Listen to Nunes last night on Shannon Breem Cut One.
Mifsud is important because he is the first person that we know on Earth that supposedly knows something about the Russians having Hillary's emails.
Now, he's since denied that, but Mueller, in his report, claimed that Mifsud was—or insinuated that Mifsud was some type of Russian asset.
Well, we know that that's not the case.
And, in fact, we know that he was in the U.S.
Capitol just months into the Russia investigation, just steps away from the House Intelligence Committee.
So, we sent a letter a few weeks ago.
I think the heads of these agencies thought that we were just going to be ignored, so we sent a follow-up letter on Friday.
We've had three of the four agencies get back to us, but surprisingly, guess which agency is not cooperating?
FBI.
Yeah, I can take a guess as to the officials.
FBI is not cooperating, per usual, which means they've got something to hide because it is impossible that Mifsud, Professor Mifsud, is a Russian asset.
He was a former diplomat with the Malta government.
He lived in Italy.
He worked and taught FBI, trained FBI officials, and worked with FBI officials.
Wow!
Nunes!
Gosh, you gotta love Nunes.
This guy, history will remember this guy, Devin Nunes, Congressman Nunes, as a genuine American hero.
I'm not kidding.
The fact that he is relentlessly pursuing this, maybe even some points at the expense of his own political career, I'm telling you, this guy needs some kind of Presidential Medal of Freedom when he's done.
What is he suggesting here?
Ladies and gentlemen, the Democrats, whole nonsense, the anti-Trump Democrats and some Republicans, their case against Trump hinges on this Mifsud being a Russian asset trying to help the Trump team.
Right.
Nunes just said something so obvious.
How did, how does everybody keep missing this?
Because they're doing it, they're missing it intentionally.
If Mifsud was a Russian asset, what the heck was he doing in the, in the US Capitol in February of 2017?
So we let a Russian spy in the U.S.
Capitol?
What is he doing in pictures with United Kingdom?
United Kingdom!
Our friends!
In the British government!
Our friends!
What is he doing in pictures with all of these higher-ups in the United Kingdom government and in their intel agencies?
What is he doing in those photos?
You can see them yourself.
Just go online.
It's not hard.
Why is he in those pictures?
There's only two explanations, Joe.
Mifsud is, in fact, a Russian agent who's managed to infiltrate the United States at the highest levels of government and the UK intelligence service.
And we're really stupid and let it all happen.
Or Mifsud is not, in fact, a Russian agent.
The Democrat story, which he is not, folks.
I've said this for so long now.
We're going to put together a show where we cover some of our predictions and how they've now come true.
I don't have to bore you, but we'll put together a little segment on that for an episode coming up in the future.
But we have said this forever.
I gave this speech at the Sunshine Summit in Florida over a year ago.
Mifsud is not a Russian agent.
His associations are with friendlies.
Now, you may say, okay, you've been saying that a lot, what's the point of the Nunes translator?
Well, there's cut to.
And in cut to, Nunes says something, I have to be candid with you folks, I had not considered up until now.
And, you know, I'm personally fascinated by this case, so I get it.
Sometimes I can be dramatic.
It's not intentional.
I just have a lot of personal interest in this case because I can't stand government abuses of power, unlike Justin Amash, fake libertarian who seems to enjoy it.
He's the congressman calling for Trump's impeachment.
He's a libertarian calling for the police state.
I had not considered this angle.
This will require my Nunes translator skills.
Play cut to, and we're done with this.
If you catch this before me, I'll be very impressed.
But he says something at the end that would blow this case to smithereens for the left.
Play the cut.
Let's imagine—he's not a Russian asset, so let's throw that away, even though Mueller has said that he was.
But let's say that he was working for another foreign government, or let's say that he was working for some organization that was hired by either a spy agency or a contractor or possibly a campaign.
So that's what we're trying to get to the bottom of is who is this Joseph Mifsud character because
he seems to have a lot of connections with a lot of other people like Christopher Steele and others
that were involved in the early stages and wrote of course the infamous dossier.
Now your radio isn't broken or your phone.
I wanted to give you a second to digest that.
Wait, what did he just say?
Folks, I'm being completely candid when I tell you, I had not considered what he just said.
Let me give you what my theory's been from the start, which doesn't change the overall story that the president wasn't trapped, but it most certainly makes a connection I haven't made up until I heard Nunes last night and got some additional information.
He suggests at the end two possible scenarios about who Mifsud was.
The first one is the one I had believed up until this point based on all the available evidence we had.
That Mifsudjo was working with friendly intelligence assets to entrap Papadopoulos.
He made up a story about Russian emails, hoping Papadopoulos would tell someone on the Trump team about it for the sole purpose of the people trying to entrap Trump in the intelligence community for them to say, look, the Trump team took information about Russian emails.
From a Russian?
No, from someone we sent in there.
Huh?
But to do that, they had to hide Massoud, which he's been successfully hidden.
He's gone.
He's in the wind.
But I had never considered the possibility.
That Mifsud may, according to Nunes' second thing he posits there, item there, may have been working for a contractor that was working in coordination with a campaign.
Ladies and gentlemen, holy Moses would that be the bombshell to end all bombshells.
Wow.
That Mifsud was not only working in conjunction with friendly intelligence agencies to set up Papadopoulos and the Trump team with fake information about Russia, but he was doing it potentially in collusion with a campaign or a contractor being paid by a campaign?
Folks, if Mifsud is connected to Steele, and Steele's working for Fusion, who's being paid by Hillary, Dude, I don't even know what to say.
I'm seriously speechless.
And as my wife can vouch for, that is a rare occurrence if ever.
Now keep in mind, last week's shows on YouTube, we made connections that had been missing.
And I got a question about this from a listener yesterday.
He was confused about the movie script.
I'm going to get to that in a second, too, because it relates to what I'm talking about now.
It was a great question, Joe.
A listener sent it, and this is why I put my email out there, because I love audience feedback.
Cool.
My wife reads them and sends them to me.
And the listener said, I'm confused, Dan.
You originally said Glenn Simpson, who wrote the 2007 Wall Street Journal article, who is the proprietor of Fusion GPS, that they just Applied the movie script, the 2007 article, to Trump.
Hold on, I'll get back to that in a second.
He's like, well, so where does the Russians fit in?
Is it a true story or is it not?
I'll get to that in a second.
But last week what we did here, and this is all going to make sense in a second, we made connections between what a lot of folks had previously thought, not us, were disparate entities.
In other words, Joe, Stefan Halper was spying on the Trump team, but he was doing his thing in this bubble, okay?
Okie dokes.
Mifsud was working with some Western intel people, but he was working in this bubble.
Right, right.
The Russians were engaging in disinformation campaigns, but they were doing it in this bubble.
Brennan was doing his anti-Trump thing up on the hill, but he was doing it in this bubble.
The importance of last week's show is we finally made a connection between all of them.
Stefan Halper, the spy, spying on the Trump team.
I'm going to state this very simply.
And his UK intelligence buddy, Richard Dearlove, teach a course with a Russian who now we know Christopher Steele, dossier guy, was using as a source.
He says it in Kathleen Kavalech's notes.
Steele, sources, Trebnikoff, Sirkoff.
Trebnikoff taught a course with Halper.
So finally we have a connection between the spying, the human spying on the Trump team, teaching a course with a Russian providing intelligence to the people providing information to Hillary.
Makes sense, Joe?
Oh, yeah, man.
That was a con... It's a con... He was a conduit, yeah.
Yes, the Russian was the conduit.
But we had missed that.
A lot of folks out there thought Halper was doing his own thing, spying on the Trump team.
It's clear now, he's not.
Halper is connected to the Russian, who's connected to Steele, who's connected to Fusion.
But the Mifsud bubble, I have to be candid with you, had always been hanging out there.
Who was Mifsud working for?
If Mifsud, at the same time, is connected to Fusion GPS in any way, and Christopher Steele, Then ladies and gentlemen, we have an entrapment scheme for the ages.
And it connects all the bubbles.
Halper, spying for the US government.
Getting tips from a Russian.
Trebnikov, he teaches a class with.
Trebnikov, providing information to Steele.
He feeds to the FBI to spy on Trump.
Mifsud, potentially connected to Steele.
Who...
Maybe put some up to meeting with Papadopoulos to advance this Russian narrative.
Tell him they have Russian emails.
Oh my gosh, folks.
This thing would blow up like that.
Now, to get back to where I was.
Now you see what the importance of this is.
Yeah.
It connects everyone.
Yeah.
It doesn't become a conspiracy theory anymore.
It becomes an actual conspiracy.
A group of people conspiring to entrap Donald Trump.
They're all connected!
Now, we don't know that to be true yet, to be clear.
That second point about- Now, I'm absolutely sure Ms.
Sood's not a Russian agent.
That he's either working with Western intel, but if that second story, that he has connections to Steele, is true, it closes the circle on this whole thing, and they are about to get nuked, the Democrats.
And the anti-Trump forces out there.
Now, to answer the gentleman's question yesterday about the movie script, this doesn't change anything.
Remember my theory, and it's in my second book, Exonerated, that thankfully we're finishing up because it's really good.
Check it out if you'd like.
Sorry to keep plugging it, but again, we put a lot of work into it.
Glenn Simpson, back in 2007, who runs Fusion GPS, Steel's working for them, working for Hillary, right?
He writes this article in the Wall Street Journal that reads almost exactly like the dossier.
Russians, Paul Manafort, Doripaska, trying to influence the Soviets, trying to influence US politics.
Read it!
The article, we put it up here a thousand times.
You can Google it and read it yourself.
That was Simpson's movie script.
He takes this 2007 movie script, but ladies and gentlemen, because it has older characters, it was written in 2007, not 2017, about Russian collusion in the United States, he has to update it for Donald Trump.
Why, Joe?
Because Trump's running for president now, and he wants to take out Donald Trump, Simpson, because he's being paid to by Hillary Clinton.
He's being paid to take out Trump.
But what's the problem, Joe?
He doesn't have anything on Trump!
So he pays Steele, who gets information from a Russian, who gives information to a CIA spy, who gives information to Brennan, who gives information to the Russian, who gives information to Steele, who gives it to the FBI.
In other words, the movie script had to be updated with new information.
Because they had to include Trump, but they didn't have anything.
So they basically paid what I call in the book a quote machine.
A guy who's helping me with the book.
We've been chatting non-stop trying to finish this thing.
I was writing all night last night.
Right, Paul?
I was at it for 10 hours yesterday.
He calls them quote machines.
That's what the media calls them.
In other words, you need a story, and you know a guy who will say anything?
You call him up and you go, hey, say this.
Okay, uh, you know, big banks are awful.
Noted economist says big banks are awful.
They're quote machines.
They make stuff up.
Steele was his quote machine.
Steele's getting information from Russians who are just making stuff up.
That's how they fit in.
Does that make sense, Joe?
The movie script needed to be updated.
Steele provided the details to update it to include Donald Trump, even though they were all fake.
Trump was colluding with the Russians.
Michael Cohen went to Prague to do it.
Carter Page is working with it.
It was all made up.
The stories don't conflict at all.
The movie script was there, but it needed some refreshing.
So, very good question.
I promised you I'd answer it on the show today.
But ladies and gentlemen, this Mifsud story is about to explode.
If Mifsud has any connections to Steel and Fusion GPS, this entire circle closes.
One last point, because I had dinner with Papadopoulos and Simona out in Los Angeles.
When I was out there, I was talking to Papadopoulos, and George has said this on the show, so I'm not sharing anything he said in private that I wouldn't, you know, I wouldn't share private conversations he was uncomfortable with, but George has said this in other places, that the FBI approached him about wiring Mifsud, about wearing a wire, a recording device, and meeting Mifsud.
Papadopoulos refused.
Ladies and gentlemen, this is an interesting wrinkle to the story, because if George's story is accurate, I have no reason to believe it's not at this point, If George's story is accurate, it reinforces my theory that Mifsud was not working directly with the FBI.
And it may reinforce this Devin Nunes bomb last night, that Mifsud's connections may have been to people being paid to gin up information on Trump, Steele, and Western intelligence people who are working in a rogue operation off the record.
Why?
And I said this to George, and I'll say it to you.
George was convinced to me that Mifsud is working with the FBI to set him up.
Folks, I'm not sure about that.
I could be wrong, and if I am, but I'm thinking of it as a former police officer and agent myself.
George was prosecuted, Papadopoulos, in the law enforcement system.
The law enforcement system, meaning he has every civil right in court that you have.
If you are using a source, i.e.
the FBI using Mifsud, You don't get the guy you're targeting, Papadopoulos, to wear a wire against your source.
Why, Joe?
Because that's discoverable in court.
And your source would be outed.
It doesn't make any sense.
I'm not saying it's never happened.
But it doesn't make sense to me.
You may say, well, then who the heck is Mifsud working for?
That's why I played the Nunes cuts.
It seems clear to me that at least early on... I'm not absolving the FBI of their malfeasance in this case.
They used a discredited, unreliable source they knew was garbage.
End of story.
Comey's a total hack.
I'll get to him in a second, too.
I'm not... Don't mistake what I'm saying.
But the facts matter.
And I think early on, people in the Bureau think Massoud may in fact be transmitting Russian intel, even though Massoud is working with friendlies to set up Trump.
And Papadopoulos.
That's the only reason, if the Wearing a Wire story is accurate, that that would happen.
The only reason.
And then later on, they find out Ms.
Sood, Joe, the Bureau that is, is working with friendlies, or God forbid, Fusion GPS and Steel, and they're like, oh.
Uh-oh.
Yeah.
What do we do now?
Oh, yeah.
Well, instead of doing the right thing and issuing a full-throated apology to an innocent man, Papadopoulos, who was set up, they arrest him at the airport to shut him up.
I've been trying to explain.
You know, George and I disagree on this.
It's his story.
His story probably carries more weight than my secondhand version of it, but I'm telling you, I don't understand why, from a law enforcement perspective, you would record your own source, Mifsud, if you were working with him.
It makes no sense.
It would all be discoverable.
He'd be outed like that.
Doesn't make sense.
Okay.
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Okay.
Now, getting back to Comey, there was another bombshell yesterday that came out.
Doug Collins, a Republican congressman from Georgia who's done a spectacular job, released the transcripts of Loretta Lynch, Obama's former Attorney General, his second one after Holder, and their testimony up on Capitol Hill.
And my gosh, are there some nukes in there too!
So, we now know one of these two people is lying, either Loretta Lynch or Jim Comey.
Why is that?
There's an article up at the Washington Examiner about this, by Dan Chatelain, who I've used, or Chaitin, excuse me Dan if I'm saying your name wrong, but your pieces, this piece up in the show notes, the show notes today are spectacular.
Loretta Lynch denies telling Jim Comey to call the Clinton email probe a matter.
Unlike the Mifsud case, which if you don't understand can be a little complicated, this is clear as day.
Jim Comey has said repeatedly, in public, up on Capitol Hill, in interviews, that Barack Obama's Attorney General told him to refer to Hillary Clinton's email investigation not as an investigation, but as a quote, matter.
Yep.
Obviously to take the edge off it.
Don't call it an investigation, let's call it a matter.
Comey said this repeatedly.
Loretta Lynch is now under oath, now that we've seen her testimony, and it's up in the article, you can see it right here, when she was asked up on the hill, did you instruct Jim Comey to call it a matter instead of an investigation?
Her answer, I did not.
I have never instructed a witness as what to say specifically.
Never have, never will, Lynch told the Joint Task Force on the House Oversight and Judiciary Committee.
Ladies and gentlemen, one of them is lying.
One of these two people is lying.
Either she said call it a matter, or she didn't.
Now, why is this a big deal?
Because this could be an obstruction of justice investigation in and of itself, depending on how far they took this.
Simply asking it to be called a matter is probably nowhere close to an actual charge, but how far did they go on this to obstruct justice in the Hillary Clinton email investigation?
Now, I owe you an opinion on this.
And again, I could be wrong, but based on... One of them's wrong.
Right?
Yeah, one of them's gotta be wrong.
You may say, well Dan, who do you think is lying?
Yeah, one of them's lying.
Folks, I think it's Lynch.
Now, you may say, Dan, you've been telling us Comey's a snake.
He is a snake.
I'm not sure who's a bigger snake, him or Brennan.
He is a pompous, arrogant buffoon and a known liar.
But Loretta Lynch has suspiciously evaded any kind of oversight, significant oversight.
You notice her name almost never comes up in the whole Spygate thing, despite the fact that she was the Attorney General?
Loretta Lynch is a savvier political character than we know.
I think Lynch is lying.
I think Comey's story is accurate.
That Lynch did, in fact, tell him to call it a matter, and did quietly pressure him to make the Hillary email investigation go away.
That does not absolve Jim Comey for, in fact, making it go away.
What's worse, saying it, or actually doing it, what Jim Comey did?
Comey is a snake.
But in this case, I believe Comey's version to be accurate.
I think Loretta Lynch has adeptly avoided any criticism due to her close relationship to Obama, who's still the messiah on the left and in the media, and has managed to slalom her way around the traffic cones and avoid any contact at all.
I think she's lying about this, and I think she knows it's a he-she-literally a he-said-she-said, and I think she knows she's gonna win because the Democrats don't like Comey either but love her and will back her up.
We'll see.
I'm right on that.
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All right, I wanted to bring this up.
We've been talking a lot, Spygate, lately, so there's just a lot of news drops every night, but I do want to make sure I get in some of our other stories related to liberal issues in the day, because it's important.
I'd love your feedback on this.
I read an article yesterday in the Wall Street Journal, and forgive me, I tried to pull it up today and I couldn't find it again, but the gist of it was that the tax system now prevents us from engaging in direct primary care.
And it was talking about this company.
You know what direct primary care is, Joe?
Explain that to me, please.
It's fascinating.
It's the next evolution of healthcare.
What it is, is you pay a standard monthly fee.
I don't know if you all have heard of this.
Say $150, as was the price in the article I wrote, for access to a doctor, for basic medical care, basic prescriptions, 24 hours a day, and they even make house calls.
It's a monthly fee.
Like joining a jiu-jitsu gym or something like that.
You pay the fee and that's it.
You walk in whenever you want.
You got a cold?
You go in.
You make an appointment.
There's no insurance.
There's no nothing.
There's no paperwork.
Direct primary care.
Now the tax system Thanks to Obamacare and other liberal things that want you to control this.
Disincentivizes people from doing that because there's no tax benefit.
Even having said that, Joe, direct primary care is exploding.
So I thought to myself, you know, I complain a lot on this show about health care, but I don't propose enough solutions.
I have, but I don't do it enough.
And I thought, can you imagine how wonderful our healthcare system would be if you could allow HSAs, health savings accounts, in other words, money I put in to my savings account that's tax-free.
I take it, it goes into a health savings account.
It is not taxed on my income, It's the equivalent of a tax-protected health employee in a health care plan.
In other words, I take $100 a week, I put it in an account, it is pre-tax dollars.
It is not taxed.
Right.
Now, that money has to be spent on my health care, hence a health savings account.
Yep.
What if we expanded health savings accounts dramatically, took caps off their limits, allowed it to be transferred to your kids so they could pay for their health care later if you pass, and their kids likewise, And those health savings accounts could pay for these expanded direct primary care networks.
Ladies and gentlemen, the free market would take over like that.
Wow.
$150 a month for membership to that doctor.
I'm a better doctor.
I'll charge $148.
Heck, I'll charge $146.
Hey, I'm better than all of them.
I'll charge $130.
Ladies and gentlemen, it's called the free market.
It's only worked everywhere.
It's been tried.
It's why iPhones aren't $2 million right now.
It's why flat screen TVs used to be $5,000 a pop, and now you can get one for $200 in Best Buy on Black Friday.
Shocking idea, the free market.
So proposal number one to fix healthcare, it should be fascinating.
Forget the caps on HSAs.
Eliminate them.
As long as it's spent on a legitimate healthcare cost, let them pass it down to your kids, and let them spend that money on direct primary care, and let doctors compete for your business like everyone else does.
Combine that, number two, with a proposal I know Joe's heard before.
I brought this up before.
Full tax write-off!
Full tax write-off for any drug company, hospital, doctor, nurse, or physician's assistant that provides free healthcare to anyone who can't afford it.
Full tax write-off!
We can't!
They're already rich!
Yes!
And we're giving them our tax dollars now!
Drug companies!
They're already rich!
And idiots!
You're... I'm not talking to my audience.
I'm talking to a liberal idiot.
It's not you, the smart people.
Idiots!
You're giving them your tax dollars now!
What do you think Medicare Part D and Medicaid do?
They're taking your money to give to drug companies!
Did you not figure that out?
What do you think that money is?
Where do you think it's coming from?
The money fairy?
How about this?
We don't give them any money, and we just let them take a deduction for giving their drugs away.
Oh my gosh, that's revolutionary!
You want to give away cholesterol pills?
Give them away for free!
Take the tax write-off.
The fair market value of the pills, you gave away a hundred pills, you get a full tax write-off.
What are you trying to do?
I know!
Proposing market-based ideas!
This is crazy town!
Joe, I'd rather take your money through taxes than give it to the drug companies!
What about a hospital?
You want to provide care to indigent folks?
To children who can't afford it?
To families?
Give it away!
There's a price for those services.
Write them off completely.
Then they're gonna make my profit!
No kidding, Sherlock.
And we also don't have to give them our tax money.
Yeah.
How stupid do you have to be to not figure this stuff out?
A doctor?
You're a doctor?
Like my brother-in-law out in Oklahoma?
Why are we taking money?
He has to get money from SoonerCare, Oklahoma's Medicaid program.
By the way, he takes in a lot of people, and he doesn't even make his market wage on these.
He winds up losing money on some of these patients.
Why do any of that?
Tell the doctor you want to provide perinatology, you want to provide cancer care.
You want to provide oncology, whatever it may be?
Ear, nose, and throat?
I will take in a hundred patients a month.
All I ask is the value of my services I can write off my tax bill.
But then they may pay no taxes.
Oh my God!
God forbid people get free health care and the doctor doesn't pay taxes that we're just going to give back to him anyway by taking our money to pay them for Medicaid.
These doctors, they make millions of dollars.
They're getting millions of dollars from us in taxes.
They're getting millions of dollars because they're really smart and people need their services.
Drug companies are getting millions and billions of dollars because they invent drugs that keep you alive.
What's the alternative?
I'd rather die.
That's your choice, not mine, buddy.
I just did my stem cells.
I thank God every day someone invented this procedure.
It's kept me from having a shoulder replacement for four years.
But the doctor has money.
Who cares?
Who cares?
My shoulder feels better.
Who cares?
I don't even know he has money.
I don't know, guys.
I don't know.
I'm just saying.
Dude, we would fix the healthcare system overnight.
HSAs.
Direct primary care.
Make doctors compete.
No insurance anymore.
Expanded HSAs.
Full tax deductions.
Combine that with one full tax deduction for the doctors, drug companies, and hospitals.
They don't have to get any more of our tax money.
You get to write off whoever you give your services away for free for.
One last thing.
Combine that with dumping government restrictions, because Obamacare instituted them, on high-deductible catastrophic care.
In other words, Joe, insurance!
Okay, if my direct primary care thing breaks down.
I can't get any kind of volunteer services from my doctor.
I should at least have some insurance in case I come down with cancer, HIV, hemophilia, diabetes, diseases that are not going to go away overnight and require constant care.
I don't want to have to rely on volunteers.
Okay, fine!
Institute government regulations that allow people to buy high deductible catastrophic care.
Meaning if everything else breaks down, I have insurance in case my HSA runs out against bankruptcy by having an insurance company cover the worst of the worst.
Just like car insurance and home insurance works.
We don't have home insurance to fix our faucet.
We have home insurance to protect us in case our house burns down.
Catastrophe!
Why health insurance is paying for the common cold visit is one of the most bizarre economic things I've seen in my lifetime.
It's absurd!
This should be for deadly diseases that require ongoing care!
That's why we're going bankrupt!
Man, I have so much more to get to today.
You know what?
I'm going to have to get to it tomorrow.
I'm sorry to tease you, but I really am.
I insist on keeping this show for your commute home.
But yeah, once again, I have an interesting piece in the show, I'd say by Margot Cleveland and the Federalists, I'll get to tomorrow, about how there was spying actually on the Trump Presidency, probably, and why it's an interesting piece.
And I also want to discuss a debate I had with Chris Hahn last night.
Chris, you know, it's liberal.
I debate him on Ingram's show on Monday nights, and Chris is like, you know, Dan, I've taken some economic course when he spouted some economic nonsense.
I'm like, oh, really?
You know, I never tout my education credentials.
I'm like, Really, Chris, I've got an MBA from Penn State.
You're just a really horrible lawyer.
So your take is what?
Your take is that you've taken an economics course once?
Gee, thanks.
So I'll cover that probably a little bit tomorrow.
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