Ep. 906 Dont Give The Democrats a Pass on Radicalism
In this episode I address the latest revelations, with regard to the DOJ and the Clinton team, in the plot to take down Trump team. I also address the radical policies of the Democrats running for President and why Howard Schultz creates a problem for them.
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All right, folks, as I predicted, the Democrats have gone full blown far left radicalism.
We saw it during yesterday's show.
I told you.
Welcome back to the Dan Bongino Show.
Producer Joe, how are you today?
Hanging in there, babe.
Glad to be here as usual.
Yeah, we had a left-leaning governor, a far-left-leaning governor.
He ran as a centrist, by the way.
Governor of Virginia, Governor Ralph Northam, come out yesterday on WTOP, a very popular radio station, as Joe knows, in the D.C.
metro area.
Come out yesterday and try to justify full-blown infanticide.
Yes, folks, we have the cut.
We'll get to that later.
I've got a couple other stories, too, including another astonishing development from The Daily Caller, which has been doing some great work on some of the background on this Spygate thing, that again, Joe, as these anomalies continue to develop, we get no mainstream media coverage at all.
It's largely ignored, and it's just another enormous story upon another enormous story in the Spygate case, swept under the rug and entirely ignored.
All right, let's get to it.
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So yesterday, Joe, we had the Governor of Virginia on WTOP.
I wanted to get to this because we've been hitting on this extreme far-left radical lurch of the Democrat Party.
Ladies and gentlemen, the party of John F. Kennedy is dead and buried.
Those people are now Republicans.
It is clear as day.
The party is now the party of Bernie Sanders, Kamala Harris, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, and others.
It has gone completely out of its mind.
Joe, I need you to play this cut.
This is the Democrat Governor of Virginia.
By the way, Who ran as a centrist on an interview with WTOP yesterday, literally, literally, not figuratively, literally is literally the most overused word in the English language, but literally advocating and trying to cover up full-blown infanticide.
Play the cut.
If a mother is in labor, I can tell you exactly what would happen.
The infant would be delivered, the infant would be kept comfortable, the infant would be resuscitated if that's what the mother and the family desired, and then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mothers.
What?
A discussion?
Oh gosh.
Ladies and gentlemen, you know, God help us all.
What have we become?
I'm getting goosebumps here talking about this.
That's not hyperbolic.
What have we become?
We're on one of the most listened to radio stations in the entire country that broadcasts to the Washington DC power centers in Washington DC, Virginia, and Maryland.
That the governor of one of the most important states in the Union, Virginia, that houses a lot of these government workers, is having a conversation on a major market radio station about keeping a birth child, a birth child, comfortable, quote, comfortable, while a decision is made.
What decision is that?
Decision to end that child's life?
You know, you need to see this, folks.
You need to see it.
What do I mean by that?
Maybe if the visuals, if the audio isn't impacting you, maybe all of us need to see this.
Maybe all of us need to go and look up what a partial birth abortion looks like.
Do you understand what this guy just said?
And desperately, desperately tried to walk back yesterday?
He exposed the Democrats for what they've become.
A party of trying to sweep infanticide under the rug.
Folks, if you tried to do this to an earthworm and you put it out on Instagram or Twitter, you would be justifiably so.
Probably taken off Twitter.
For keeping an earthworm alive while you decided how to terminate its life.
For what?
What is this, some kind of science experiment?
This is a human being.
We are talking about a human life.
Keeping it comfortable, this child, while we have to make a decision?
Dan, what's happening between keeping the infant comfortable and resuscitating the infant?
Why do you have to resuscitate a freshly born infant?
Joe, he's a doctor and he's trying to use medical terminology to gloss over what happens when a partial birth abortion fails and a child is born alive.
He's trying to science this away, what effectively is the murder of a birth child.
Folks, listen, I talked about this yesterday.
How it's key you understand how the Democrats need to wipe out any kind of objective truth at all.
The big R, inalienable right to life, liberty, the pursuit of happiness, none of that can matter.
When you look at even specific rights, the right to self-defense, the fruits of your own labor, the right to protect yourself and your family, to assemble, to petition, The left doesn't want big R-rights.
They don't want that.
They need the state.
They need the state at all times to be able to intervene between you and your big R-rights.
And to do that, they have to wipe out any objective truth whatsoever.
Even life.
Gross, folks.
Just disgusting what happened yesterday.
Alright, let's move on.
Story number two today.
This is important.
This broke yesterday in the Daily Caller and again received almost no media coverage.
Almost no media coverage at all.
So we found out yesterday that from a Daily Caller piece that Nellie Orr, who is the wife of Bruce Orr, who's a DOJ, the number four official in the Department of Justice, who was working for the company hired by Hillary Clinton to generate this negative information on Trump, Fusion GPS.
Nellie Orr was working for Fusion GPS.
We find out yesterday that some of her testimony had that she gave up in front of Congress had leaked and in that testimony there's some deeply troubling information that again is being ignored by the mainstream media but but but folks there's a lot of commentators on this case that seem to miss the big takeaway here too.
The big takeaway in this whole thing is that we revealed the big reveal yesterday is that Nelly Orr was assigned to do oppo hits opposition research hits on who Joe?
Trump's kids.
Why does this matter?
Folks, this is huge.
Because now it explains a whole lot.
Again, a lot of people miss this connection.
I don't think you should.
I think a lot of the entrepreneurial researchers out there who've been working on this case, and you know who you are, a lot of you are really terrific, need to look into this angle now.
Now we find out Nelly Orr's job at Fusion GPS, the company hired to hit Donald Trump for Hillary Clinton.
Her husband works in the DOJ, Joe, and she is an oppo-hit guy for Trump's kids.
And she's assigned to, let me quote here, to see whether they were involved in dealings with people with suspicious pasts, talking about business dealings.
Joe, does the Trump Tower meeting now make sense?
Who's in the Trump Tower meeting, folks?
Put these things together!
Put two and two together!
I got a lot to get to, so I gotta motor through this quick.
I got a lot of stories about the Democrats today, too.
But now it makes sense!
I've told you the entire time, I will stick to this till the day I go in the grave here, because the evidence is all over the place, that the Donald Trump Jr.
Trump Tower meeting with these two Russians that the Democrats have been pointing to, look, these Russians showed up to talk to Trump Jr., collusion, collusion, collusion, that the two Russians that show up are connected to Fusion GPS and Hillary Clinton.
That's, ladies and gentlemen, that's a fact.
This is a setup from the start.
Don Jr.
was set up.
This is a setup.
He was framed.
This is a setup.
It's clear as day.
The people who show up for this Don Jr.
meeting are Russians.
A Russian lawyer, Veselnitskaya, Natalia Veselnitskaya, who's working on behalf of the Russian government, but is also working with Fusion GPS, where Bruce Ohr's wife is working.
The Russian intelligence connected guy that shows up already admits he has connections to the Clinton sphere.
Now we find out that the woman working for Fusion GPS, the company connected to these people that show up there, Now we find out that her primary job was to do oppo research on Trump's kids, the same kid, by the way, Don Trump Jr., that the meeting happens with?
Folks, we gotta start putting two and two together here.
Joe, this is, I mean, maybe just because we're on this case all the time, it seems so obvious, but when I saw this story yesterday, and it'll be in my show notes today, at Bongino.com, please read it.
Now it's obvious!
Looking into business dealings?
So she was assigned to looking into Don Trump Jr.' 's business dealings, and conveniently, a guy they've done business dealings with in the past, Rob Goldstone, a British publicist, right?
Knows another guy they've done business with in the past, the Agalaroff family.
The Agalarov family are the ones, in conjunction with Goldstone, that, according to the allegations, set up this meeting with the Russians?
Who pushed and prodded these people to set this meeting up?
Guys, ladies, I'm just asking you to see through the fog of misinformation and disinformation in this case and see what is so transparently obvious at this point.
A company hired by Hillary Clinton to dirty up Donald Trump hires a woman whose husband works in the Department of Justice.
The woman's job is to research Trump Jr.' 's business dealings.
Business associates of Don Trump Jr., right?
Then set up a meeting with two Russians in Trump Tower, connected to the same company, hired to look into his business dealings, and then the liberals later used that meeting as evidence of Russian collusion.
Ladies and gentlemen, is Occam's razor slicing through the fog right now?
In all possible scenarios, except the one that requires the least amount of assumptions.
Occam's razor, otherwise known as keep it simple, stupid.
This is obvious.
Hey, let's hire this company to look at the Trump's business dealings.
All of a sudden, business associates of Trump set up a meeting that the liberals are now using as evidence of collusion?
With two Russians connected to the exact people who set the meeting up?
It is so, it's crystal clear, but very few people are making this connection and I'm imploring some of the better researchers out there.
You all know who you are.
You email me daily.
I'm imploring you to go and do some digging on this.
I'm doing my own.
But the connections here are now clear.
So read the Daily Caller piece.
It all makes sense.
Orr was looking into Trump Jr.' 's business deals.
And conveniently, business associates of Trump Jr.
then set up a meeting with two people connected to the Clintons and Fusion GPS, where the lady works, who's looking into Trump Jr.
Nellie Orr, I'm talking about.
Here, from the piece.
Nellie Orr, a former contractor for Fusion GPS, told lawmakers on October 19th, during a deposition, she recalls that Christopher Steele gave her husband, Bruce Orr, from the Justice Department, materials from the now infamous anti-Trump dossier funded by the Democrats.
Or said during the testimony that Steele, who like her was a contractor for Fusion GPS, hoped that her husband would pass the materials to the FBI.
So now we have an explanation for both the business meeting at Trump Tower with these Russians that the liberals keep using as evidence of collusion.
It was a setup the whole time.
There was no discussion of Hillary's emails in that meeting.
Only Russian adoption and the Magnitsky Act.
That's it.
We now know that Orr has admitted on the record, Nellie Orr that is, that she connected Christopher Steele to her husband in the Justice Department, a No.
4 official.
This isn't a rank-and-file guy, with the hopes that he would create this information superhighway Joe and I have only been talking about for 8 to 10 months now, to mainline information right into FBI headquarters.
In other words, politically connected Hillary operatives found a back channel into the FBI to pass unvetted information onto the top.
They're admitting to this right now.
This is in the article.
This is in her testimony.
She admits she gave the information to her husband with the hopes it would get to the FBI.
I'm not making this up.
Read the piece yourself.
There are quotes in it.
Here, you want to hear the quote?
My understanding was that Chris Steele was hoping that Bruce, her husband, the DOJ official, could put in a word with the FBI to follow up in some way.
What's hard about this?
Are we missing something?
To the mainstream media folks entirely uninterested in the facts and background on this case, are we missing something?
Are we missing a connection here?
What part of this are you not interested in?
The woman is now on the record talking about an information laundering operation from political operatives through justice into the FBI.
At the same time, she admits to researching Trump Jr.' 's business dealings while a business deal is being set up to get Russians to go to Trump Tower connected with the same company.
What part of this isn't connecting?
This is a conspiracy theory.
What's a conspiracy theory?
She's on the record.
It's in the piece.
It's her quote, not mine.
This was sworn testimony.
You think I'm making this up?
Read the piece yourself.
It goes on.
She talks about at one point, Nellie Orr in her testimony, that there was a meeting on July 30th, 2016 between Christopher Steele, he's the creator of the Dirty Dossier, a foreign intelligence operative for the United Kingdom, former MI6 guy.
She says there were three topics discussed at this meeting on July 30, 2016 when Nellie Orr, working for Fusion GPS, Christopher Steele, working for Fusion GPS and Hillary Clinton, and her husband Bruce Orr at the DOJ meet.
One, Christopher Steele discusses apparently the fact He believes the Russians have Donald Trump, quote, over a barrel.
Okay, that's nonsense.
That's Steele just setting up what he's going to say later.
You get what I'm saying, Joe?
Christopher Steele, clearly in this meeting, is trying to set up the fact that the Russians can bribe Trump because they have stuff on him.
Second, she says that, she describes some information, Steele, she says at the meeting, Christopher Steele describes Carter Page's meeting with these two Russians.
The two Russians show that are in the dossier.
That meeting has been discredited and debunked.
That meeting never happened.
That meeting didn't happen.
It's a lie.
It's in the dossier.
It's a lie.
Carter Page did not meet with these two Russians.
So clearly, Steele already has components of this dossier laid out, ready to present on an information superhighway to his new connection, Broussard, to his wife Nellie.
Third, this is fascinating.
Steele, this is from the Daily Caller piece, Steele, a former MI6 officer who operates out of London, listen to this Joe, also told Orr that a lawyer for Russian oligarch Oleg Deripaska was investigating Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort over a business deal gone south.
Steele reportedly worked at one point for one of Deripaska's companies.
The link is ironic given that Deripaska is considered a close ally of Putin.
Ladies and gentlemen, Oh my gosh, Joe.
The denseness of the people following this case on the liberal side, intentional denseness of their skulls, is incredible.
So now we have on the record Nellie Orr indicating, Joe.
That Christopher Steele is getting some of this information from Deripaska, an ally of Putin, who has an interest, financially, in taking down Paul Manafort on the Trump team.
And nobody puts two and two together?
Joe, please tell me, again, as the audience on Buds, when you are picking up what I'm putting down.
Yeah, man.
He says Christopher Steele now has this back channel to Bruce Ohr and the DOJ.
He meets with him July 30th of 2016.
Conveniently, in the following days, the FBI opens up a case against Trump, crossfire hurricane.
As Orr relays this information to Andy McCabe over in the FBI.
Nellie Orr already says that they were hoping for a backchannel to the FBI for this info, even though it was shady.
The info she gives him is that she believes Christopher Steele passes this information to her and her husband at this July 30th meeting saying the Russians have something on Trump.
Second, that Carter Page met with these two Russians.
Two things widely debunked.
Two nonsense things.
And then third, he admits the whole scheme!
That he's working with this Russian, Deripaska, connected to Putin, who doesn't like Manafort because of a bad business deal, and that a lot of this information is coming from them!
He basically admits the whole scam!
That this is a Russian disinformation operation, funneled through Hillary Clinton's team into the FBI.
The guy admits that Deripaska has a grudge against Manafort.
And that a lawyer is investigating this that works for Deripaska.
Guys, ladies, please, please tell me you get this.
Please tell me you get this.
Russian guy, let me, for the liberals out there having a tough time.
Russian guy, Deripaska, very mad at Trump guy, Manafort.
Russian guy has a lawyer investigating Manafort.
Russian guy and lawyer don't like Manafort.
Russian guy also working for British spy.
British spy being paid by Hillary to generate bad information on Trump.
Let's go back to Caveman Joe.
We haven't used him in a while.
Caveman Joe.
Does this make sense?
Let me try this, Caveman Joe.
Russian guy.
Don't like Trump.
You dig?
Don't like Trump.
Okay, you get that.
Caveman Joe gets it.
Russian guy no like Trump.
Okay, Russian guy hires lawyer, Caveman Joe, who's looking into Trump guy.
Does that make sense?
[laughing]
Yeah.
[laughing]
Sage, Caveman Joe gets it.
Russian guy also has business deal with guy in Trump orbit while simultaneously having business deal with guy doing research to hurt Trump.
Makes sense, Caveman Joe?
Even Caveman Joe gets it!
Listen, I gotta move on because I got a lot to get to, but when Caveman Joe gets it, you know, count on no coverage of this from the mainstream media at all.
Finally, one more piece from the Daily Call and I want to move on to a couple other things as well.
There's a lot of breaking news this week.
We haven't, he hasn't made an appearance.
Always popular with the audience.
Caveman Neanderthal Joe.
So folks, we were recently told, given the raid on Roger Stone's house at six o'clock in the morning, multiple FBI agents tack gear in an entirely absurd, outrageous, unnecessary display of force for a non-violent offender with almost no threat to flee at all.
We already heard about that.
Roger Stone, the arrest.
But why am I bringing this up?
Because what was Stone arrested for, Joe?
Stone was arrested and is being prosecuted right now For allegations that he lied in front of a correct congressional committee in sworn testimony.
Listen, folks, I don't know Stone.
I met the guy at a couple events.
We are not friends.
We've never corresponded.
I have no idea what drives him, what doesn't drive him.
And lying under oath is, in fact, a crime.
The problem is, is if lying under oath is a crime, let me ask you a simple question, Joe.
Why isn't Glenn Simpson from Fusion GPS under arrest?
Oh, yeah.
I don't know.
Yeah, that's another one.
From the Daily Caller piece.
Bruce Ohr met with Steele and Fusion GPS founder Glenn Simpson prior to the 2016 election.
Stop.
Stop.
Full stop.
So now we know Nellie Ohr's husband, Bruce Ohr, works for the DOJ, who's got this information laundering operation into the FBI, met with British spy Christopher Steele and Fusion GPS founder Glenn Simpson prior to the 2016 election.
Okay, fact established.
Why does any of that matter?
Let's go on.
Because that conflicts with testimony given by Glenn Simpson, as well as a memo released by Democrats on the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence.
Notably, shift day, Adam Schiff!
Glenn Simpson, Joe, testified to the Intel Committee on November 4th, 2017, that he did not meet with anyone from the Justice Department or FBI until after the election, but or testified under oath that he met Simpson on August 22nd, 2016, notably before the election.
2016, notably before the election.
Folks, God forbid Glenn Simpson is not under investigation right now for lying under oath.
[BLANK_AUDIO]
This is as clear a violation.
These two stories cannot possibly coexist in reality.
Either Glenn Simpson spoke to Orr before the election on August 22nd, as Orr is stating, or Glenn Simpson spoke to Orr after the election, as Simpson is stating.
Those two stories cannot possibly be true.
If Glenn Simpson is not under investigation by the Mueller probe or someone else in the Justice Department, ladies and gentlemen, this Justice Department is meaningless.
Because it's not the Justice Department, it's the Injustice Department then.
This would be a scam-o-rama.
On Wheaties.
What a joke.
This case has turned into a total farce, an abomination of justice.
We should all be embarrassed by this.
And listen, Democrats, you zeros celebrating all this stuff in your new police state, your newfound love affair for the police state, early morning raids, tack gear, tactical weapons in people's houses who are a complete threat matrix of zero.
I hope you're proud of yourselves and what you've done to this country.
You disgraceful loons.
It's disgusting what you've done.
Celebrating the destruction of the Constitutional Republic.
Celebrating yesterday, trying to cover up infanticide on a WTOP interview.
You disgust me.
And everybody listening.
Every sane person listening.
Gross.
Alright, I want to get to a couple more stories, including Kind of a tie-in to yesterday's show about just how ridiculous, now that these Democrats are announcing for president, their plans are.
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So, ladies and gentlemen, I didn't get to hit this yesterday in detail, but why is Howard Schultz, the former Starbucks CEO, scaring the hell out of the Democrats right now?
They have gone full-bore attack mode on Howard Schultz.
If you missed the story, he is the Former CEO of Starbucks, and he has announced he is likely going to run for president in 2020 as an independent.
Now, I want to get into a couple things about this, and I always try to add some color to the story you're not going to get on other news outlets.
I want to tell you why this is bothering the Democrats right now, and it may not be for the reasons you think.
Folks, Shultz candidly may hurt Trump as much as he hurts the Democrats.
Remember, he's talking about running as independent, Joe.
So as the audience ombudsman, I need you to track this and always stop me if it's not making sense.
So he's talking about running as an independent.
Ladies and gentlemen, there's very little chance an independent could win the presidency.
I'll get to that too.
That's going to be part two of this.
But just stipulate that for a moment.
So why would the Democrats be afraid?
You know, when Ross Perot ran, Against George H.W.
Bush, an election I know Joe remembers well and I do as well.
It was one of the first elections I was like intimately involved in at the time.
I mean, I really followed that closely.
It was Perot, Bill Clinton as the governor of Arkansas at the time, and George H.W.
Bush as the incumbent Republican president.
Perot ran as an independent.
Now, I don't know if you remember, but Perot dropped out.
Perot was getting in some polls 25-30% of the vote.
Perot drops out and then jumps back into the race and he wound up getting what was it 17, 19 percent or something like that and the...
The kind of schoolyard rule of thumb there was that Perot had cost George H.W.
Bush the presidency by splitting the Republican vote.
Folks, I've read up a lot on this, and I don't have time today to go into extensive detail because it's almost a show in and of itself, and I'm considering doing an election special on previous elections.
That'll be for another day.
But let me just tell you this.
It's not conclusive that that's the case.
That Perot cost H.W.
Bush the election.
George H.W.
It's not.
In other words, H.W.
may have lost whether Perot was there.
It's impossible to prove a counterfactual.
We don't know.
All we know is what happened.
We can't prove what happened if it didn't happen because it happened.
And Michael J. Fox and the crazy scientists from Back to the Future are not going to appear and allow us to go back to Biff and change time.
It's not going to work.
All we know is Perot was in it and Clinton won.
But based on some exit polling and everything, it's not clear Perot cost H.W.
the presidency.
Why am I bringing this up now?
Because now we're going to have a well-funded, potentially even more well-funded than Perot, candidate who's willing to dump about $500 million of his own money into this race to get on the ballot in 50 states and run a more than credible campaign and add dollars.
And he's probably going to get on a debate stage with these three.
Now I brought up that in the beginning about H.W.
and the fact that it may hurt Trump, because you may be saying, it may folks, he may strip away a lot of Trump voters who, you know, just are looking for a different option.
So why are the Democrats so scared?
It's not Trump who's been going after Shultz.
I mean, not in any kind of consistent, organized way like the Democrats.
He doesn't like Shultz being in there.
He's clearly taking some shots at him.
But not in an organized way like the Democrats.
The Republicans have largely steered clear.
Folks, it's not that the Democrats don't think Shultz could peel away some Trump voters.
It's that the Democrats are worried Shultz is going to expose them for the mathematical idiots they are.
I'm serious Joe!
Schultz has gotten and will continue to get because he's well funded and incredible just by his name and his money alone.
He is going to continue to get media appearances on cable news networks and network outlets, ABC, NBC, CBS.
And he has continued to take a centrist approach on these far-left radical policies when it comes to things like Medicare for All and taxes and expose the idiocy of them, Joe.
And the problem the Democrats are having now is they can't explain away, as I said yesterday, how 5 plus 5 is supposed to equal 26.
Shultz has gone on the air about two specific things and has put the Democrats in a really big hole, even though they know Shultz can potentially hurt Trump.
They want him out of the race because he... Let me explain this better, I'm sorry.
Shultz may hurt Trump in the election, but he hurts the Democrats' ideas.
The ideas they want to get out there.
Two specifically, Medicare for All and elevated tax rates, upwards of 70 to 90 percent on what we would consider...
On what we would consider wealthy folks in the United States.
He has already come out and challenged those ideas as un-American and absurd.
The Democrats don't want that.
They want the anti-Trump animus to be so profound, Joe, and fog-inducing in the election that they can push through economically, mathematically unworkable ideas and never have anyone challenge him on it.
I'm a little worried I'm not getting this across to you the right way.
The Democrats were hoping for a clear path on the Democrat side for far-left radicalism.
The Democrat- not a clear path for one candidate!
There's no anointed one in this election.
But what the Democrats do have is the more prominent figures on their side running.
Kamala Harris, Bernie Sanders, Even Joe Biden with his far left lurch into Obama-nomics.
Do you see where I'm going with this, Joe?
They were hoping to have a clear path for high taxes and government-run healthcare because they know who won't question them on it, Joe.
The media won't question him, no.
The media will give him a free pass the whole time.
You'll see some light questions, but there'll be no follow-up.
There'll be nothing.
The media will largely give him a pass on radicalism.
Right.
Now you got Shultz in here, who doesn't need the primary process.
He can basically use his own wealth to get himself on the ballot to run as an independent.
And even though he may ding up Trump and take some Trump voters from some rhinos or some people who don't like Trump, He will destroy the Democrats' ideas and it'll be a two against one.
You diggin' me?
Imagine a debate stage, an independent and Schultz, Donald Trump, and say Kamala Harris for giggles here.
Kamala Harris wins the Democrat nomination for the presidency.
Now on a debate stage, what are you going to have?
You're going to have Kamala Harris.
I think we should have Medicare for All.
You're gonna have Howard Schultz, who is a liberal by the way, but is trying to be an economic centrist, laughing at this.
Uh, Ms.
Harris, listen, I've been a business owner.
I started Starbucks.
Your ideas are ridiculous.
There's no math for that at all.
It doesn't work.
Then you're gonna have Trump coming out, dropping neutron bombs on the stage.
Ms.
Harris, that's quite simply the dumbest idea I've ever heard, Senator Harris.
And what is she gonna do?
It's gonna be a two-on-one.
There's gonna be nobody to save her.
You get what I'm, and finally in front of a national audience the Democrats who thought they were going to get a free pass on far-left radicalism and a straight one runway right to the general election with no serious pushback on their ridiculous economically unworkable tax and health care plans now have to deal with Schultz and Trump out there during the entire election cycle exposing Democrats for the insane ideas, the certifiably insane ideas they have.
Is this making sense, Producer Joe?
Big time, dude.
It's now a two-on-one!
Yeah!
It's a two-on-one.
They didn't expect this.
Schultz is already out there calling them out.
Now, a couple more things.
I want to just double down on something I covered yesterday.
Matt Palumbo has a great piece on my site.
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They did a really wonderful job.
But Paula's mad at me right now, folks, by the way, because I'm losing my marbles before the show because we're desperately trying to get this video thing up and running the right way.
And it's like it's such a complicated studio now.
So, you know, we always break down the fourth wall.
So I'm sorry, Paula.
Do you hear me out there?
Can you hear me?
She's laughing.
I love my wife to death.
I just get frustrated.
She thinks I'm mad at her.
I'm not.
I'm just mad at the technology because it's very complicated.
Right?
We're going to try to get a video clip up today, even though I'm all sweaty now from like, uh, I love my audience.
I don't want to give you second rate stuff and Paula's working hard.
Joe's working hard.
I'm working hard and, and you know, it's not up to the standards I want to keep for you.
So we'll try and get your video clip as soon as possible.
But Matt has a really cool piece up at the website today about can liberals do math?
And it's a follow-up to yesterday's speech.
Let me read to you a quote.
And again, just so you understand, I like to keep my show simple.
The takeaway from this is Shultz is dangerous as an independent to the left because he exposes their ideas as mathematically unworkable and he's not Trump!
You get it, Joe?
So they can't just say, oh, it's Trump.
He's crazy.
We all hate Trump.
Don't listen to him.
He's not Trump.
Schultz doesn't like Trump either.
No.
But he also doesn't like these Looney Tunes kooky Democrat ideas.
Here's one from Matt Palumbo's piece about why the liberals can't do basic math.
She's talking about Ocasio-Cortez and Julian Castro's proposal to tax people who make $10 million at rates of 70% or higher, and basically Elizabeth Warren's nonsensical plan to take away your assets if you're wealthy.
He says there simply aren't enough wealthy people to fund what Representative Cortez desires.
Her 70% tax would only raise between $16 billion and $38 billion a year.
Her new programs, ladies and gentlemen, would cost trillions a year.
The math doesn't work.
But he goes on, Matt says, certainly those like Rep Cortez must know better.
In one breath, she and others, such as Bernie Sanders, cite Scandinavian countries as successful examples of socialism, but never mention that the middle class, and Matt has links in the piece, folks, in case you need the citations and the sources, excuse me, the sortations.
I'm making up words every day.
That the middle class pay a 50% plus tax raise.
Ladies and gentlemen, I'm not asking Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez to change her far-left liberal idea.
I'm not.
I know I have no hope of breaking through.
And frankly, candidly, she doesn't care what I have to say.
She doesn't.
What does she care what my show has to say?
We're on opposite sides of the ideological spectrum.
I'm not asking that.
I'm just asking her to be honest about what she's proposing so the American people can make a decision.
You want Scandinavian social welfare?
You can get it, but it will cost you a doubling of the tax rate you're paying now if you are a middle class individual.
Yeah.
Just vote on it, Joe.
Yeah.
Fair deal?
Yeah, too much money.
Thank you, Sven.
Sven Ormacost.
Sven's Scandinavian.
He doesn't care.
He likes good.
You like 50% plus tax rates?
Oh, but I pay it anyway, yeah.
Just be honest about it.
That's all we're asking.
Matt goes on.
She knows, just as well as every other politician, that they can't sell this kind of a tax hike to the American public.
Because the American public wants to believe this doesn't apply to them.
Personally!
Oh no, that's just, that tax hike only applies to people making 10 million or more!
It doesn't!
Listen to me!
We don't have a VAT here, I'll get to that in a value-added tax.
It doesn't!
That tax will apply to you!
That's where all the money is!
I just gave you the math.
There is not even close to enough money in the millionaire sphere in the United States of economic earners to generate the social welfare programs Ocasio-Cortez, Sanders, and Elizabeth Warren want.
Kamala Harris too.
None!
The money is with you!
You will pay double the taxes you're paying now.
Here's the kicker in the piece.
I didn't coordinate this with Matt at all, by the way.
The only liberals who seem to be aware of this are the ones that Democrats would rather not run for president, such as Howard Schultz and Michael Bloomberg.
I told you!
Matt's a smart kid.
He's my resident fact checker.
He really is.
He's super bright.
I found him at an early age.
I've been working with him now for, gosh, six years, seven years.
It's a brilliant point.
Schultz scares the Dems because he exposes what smart people already know.
These ideas are economically unworkable.
They're not pie in the sky.
I can't say this enough.
There's no pie.
There's no sky.
There's no money there.
The money is with the middle class.
Now Tim Worstall has a really good piece of the Washington Examiner today, talking about exactly this, how he just wishes people would be honest in this debate.
Oh wait, let me wrap that as I don't like to lose my place, that's why I'm glad I take notes.
On the Howard Schultz thing, yeah.
So he scares them again because he's speaking the truth.
But I said to you in the beginning, I was going to explain to you why there's very little, if any, path for victory for an independent.
Just quickly here.
Folks, you have to understand the mechanics of how these presidential elections work when they can't be decided in the Electoral College.
Schultz has almost no chance of getting 270 electoral votes, which you need to win the presidential election.
You all know that's a smart audience.
Why?
Schultz won't get it because there are reliably red states, large pockets of them that, depending on what states you factor in or out, are roughly 150 to 180 electoral votes, Joe.
They will vote red no matter what.
The chances of Schultz, an independent who's pro-abortion and otherwise, getting those red states, Wyoming, Utah, is non-existent.
Joe, you picking up what I'm putting down?
Schultz has no chance of winning those.
Those states that are reliably red will garner between 150 and 170 electoral votes.
There are other states that Schultz has no chance of winning on the left.
They will vote for Medicare, for space aliens, tax rates as high as 152 percent.
Yeah, yeah, I said I didn't mess that up.
California, New York, Illinois, that's about another 100, 120 or so electoral votes.
In other words, there's not enough electoral votes there for Schultz to get to 270.
So what would you have?
Even if he does Ross Perot-like numbers, folks, and gets 30% of the electoral vote as an Independent, that would mean nobody gets the electoral votes, 270.
You diggin' me, Armacost?
So what happens next?
It gets kicked over to the House of Representatives, where each state issues a vote for one of them.
Folks, do you really believe a bunch of swampy politicians, who are Democrat- There are no independents, real independents at least.
In the Senate side, there's fake independents like Angus King and Bernie Sanders.
But there are no real independents left.
Do you really believe in the House of Representatives?
A bunch of swamp rodents from both sides are gonna vote for an independent who's threatening to come in there and scuttle their entire operation?
Shultz has no chance.
He can't win the Electoral College, and he cannot win in the House of Representatives.
I'm telling you, he has no chance.
Unless some miraculous thing happens where every... I mean, I can't even think of a miraculous.
I really can't.
It will unquestionably get kicked to the House of Representatives, where partisans will vote their party.
It's as simple as that.
But he is doing significant damage to the Democrats.
Because he's exposing their ideas.
It's ridiculous.
All right, let me get this final read and I'll wrap up that thought, because I didn't forget I was there.
I just want to make sure I get all the info in today.
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Okay, so just getting back to the mathematical unworkability of this, and I discussed how Matt wrote in the piece about it, there's no money there.
There's only money with the middle class.
That's where the pool of money to fund these expansive government programs is.
The Democrats just need to be honest.
Warstall has his piece at the Washington Examiner today, and just kind of hammering home what I said yesterday.
He's just wishing and hoping people would be honest about the 1950s.
The 50s and the 60s tax rates were high.
The top marginal tax rate in the 50s and 60s was between the 70 and in some cases 90%.
But Warstall says when we look at the percentage of GDP raised by the income tax, in other words, ladies and gentlemen, the money that came in, those high personal income tax rates topped out at raising 7.8% of GDP.
We get 8.4% of GDP now!
At the lower rates!
The rates now, the top rate is 37%!
This isn't, this is from Warstall, this isn't telling us that higher rates give the politicians more money to play with.
He says, I'm not, I'm being, am I being picky here?
He goes, I expect the historian to know these things before they confidently pronounce upon them.
But then what do I know?
My training was in economics, not history.
Great line by Warstall.
In other words, ladies and gentlemen, we're just asking the Democrats to be honest.
If you're a college kid listening to this and you're a liberal, One of your friends turned you on to my show and you're listening.
I'm not mad at you.
I'm not.
I really not.
I'm not angry at you.
I'm angry at liberal ideas.
I'm angry that liberals have managed to somehow smoke you up into making you believe this stuff is true.
I'm just asking you to open your mind and analyze the facts and data yourself.
If those facts and data then comport with what you want, fine.
If you understand that history and the economics history, history in of itself, and the numbers don't comport with the idea that higher tax rates will raise additional revenue, but you want to do it anyway, fine, justify it.
But the numbers don't say that.
We have had high tax rates.
They did not raise significant tax revenue.
They raised less than we're raising now at half of those tax rates.
Literally half.
It's 37 percent now.
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez wants 70 or more at the top end.
They did not do that.
Those rates raised less money.
The evidence is not working for you.
If you just want to raise them because you like the look of bigger numbers, because you think it sounds cool, fine, and just be honest about that.
But stop pretending it's going to get you the money you need to do these expansive government programs you want when you know the data doesn't say that.
But what will get you the money you want?
Oh, something will.
But the Democrats don't want to tell you where they're really going.
Let me give you the dirty little secret of the Democrat Party.
What they really want, ladies and gentlemen, is a VAT.
A value-added tax.
A value-added tax.
When you look around the world, you know, my audience, you're very bright and I get a lot of great feedback from you.
You're probably putting two and two together here.
But when you look at the data about countries around the world that have big social safety nets, including the Scandinavian ones you just mentioned, you clearly indicated that they do raise the money for these social safety nets.
Oh, they do.
But they don't do it through an income tax, they don't do it through a corporate tax, and they don't do it through a capital gains tax either.
In other words, hiking the income tax, corporate tax, and capital gains tax will do none of this.
Do you understand that, Joe?
I just made that case.
But there is a tax that will no doubt raise that money, and it is called a VAT.
Now, you may be saying, well, if they have a VAT in the United Kingdom and elsewhere, and places over in Europe, excuse me, and places over in Europe, the VAT, and they're raising upwards of 40 to 45% of GDP, almost double what we're raising here, why won't the Democrats do that here?
Oh, they will, but they're trying to be real quiet about how a VAT works.
And why is that, Joe?
Because a value-added tax is a regressive tax, folks.
It's not progressive.
In other words, who does it impact the worst economically?
The poor and the middle class.
What I just told you.
That is where the money is.
The money to tax is not with the millionaires.
Ladies and gentlemen, I know that sounds counterintuitive, especially to liberals that have a tough time with this kind of stuff.
I get that.
How is it that the millionaires and 10 millionaires don't have the money to tax?
Because there's not enough of them.
It's not that they don't have the money.
They don't have the money you need to expand government as rapidly as you want.
There's not enough of them.
Yeah, I mean, do I need to prove this point, Joe?
How many millionaires do you know?
Two.
Two?
I know maybe, personally, maybe four or five.
Yeah.
Nah, maybe more, four or five.
Joe, how many middle class people do you know?
Ah, tons.
Right, it's not even worth talking so stupid.
A five hundred?
A thousand?
Folks, you see my point?
I mean, I wasn't asking Joe to be silly.
How many millionaires do you know?
How many ten millionaires do you know?
How many hundred millionaires do you know?
Some of you who are wealthy, you may know two or three, five, maybe ten.
When I ask you how many middle class people you know, you're like, I don't know.
I know my entire neighborhood.
There's 500 people.
That's where the money is.
There's not enough millionaires to pay for this stuff.
The money's in the middle class.
That's what a VAT does.
How does a VAT work?
Well, it's how it works is what they want to keep quiet.
This is what the Democrats really want.
That's how they raise the money in Europe for all this and how they bankrupt their people.
A value-added tax builds a tax in at every level of production.
It's very simply explained this way.
My wife and I used to own a mixed martial arts company a while ago before we went into politics and started doing other things.
And we would pay for, it was like a yoga sock type product that we'd use for grappling.
So we would pay a supplier to buy thread, some silicone spray they put on the bottom, some elastic, some rubber that would be used from the elastic, and they would compose this sock and this footwear.
Now the composite materials that the supplier buys, the thread and that other stuff, Joe, may have cost him 50 cents.
It wasn't expensive.
But the sock he puts together with labor, probably all in total, costs him $3.
He may sell it to us for whatever, $5, which we sell to an audience, I don't know, we sold them for $10 or whatever.
Do you see how value is added at every level?
Every level.
The producer of the sock takes thread, rubber, and silicon, adds value through his labor, and creates the sock.
So he buys it for 50 cents, he sells it to us for $3, he adds roughly $2.50 in value.
We then sell it through our website and other things and our marketing abilities and our business abilities for say $10.
We add another $5 in value.
You have to pay tax on the difference between what you paid, what the inputs are and what you're putting out basically.
It's a simple way to say it, but it's built in at every layer of production.
Why does this matter though?
Because the fact that it's built in at every level of production and not just with the end buyer, like a sales tax.
Joe, when you see a sales tax, you look at your receipt and you know exactly what you paid in tax.
Joe goes out and buys a pack of t-shirts at whatever, at the store on the corner.
He pays maybe $10 and he pays, depending on the tax, I don't know, $1, $2 in sales tax.
He can look on the receipt.
That's not the way a VAT works.
You can see a VAT on a receipt, but being built in at every level, it's hidden.
Because you only see the end receipt when you pay, but you don't see what everybody else paid before that boot, shoe, or grapple sock got to you.
It's hidden.
And the hidden part of the tax is the beauty of it for big government hacks.
Because when people actually see what they're paying in taxes, they freak out and they don't want to pay more!
That's the very genesis of Hauser's Law, the idea that no matter what we tax on the income, corporate, or capital gains side, the government cannot, is just incapable of getting more money!
Because people hide their money!
Tax avoidance, accountants, Because what happens, Joe, they see it, you see your pay stub, and you're like, wait, what?
I made $1,000 this week and I'm paying $600 in taxes?
This is insane!
People refuse to do it!
They find fancy accountants.
They vote people out of office.
Capital gain's the same thing.
You sell your stocks.
Wait, I gotta give this amount of money to the government?
I'm holding those stocks.
On the business side, wait, we gotta pay 21% corporate tax?
We're just gonna pass it on to the consumer.
But the beauty of the VAT is you can't see it.
It's built into so many levels of production that by the time you buy the product and you're paying $500 for a pair of boots, you just think that's the price of the boots.
You don't realize, Joe, that $250 of it is taxes, and you just pay it anyway.
It's the fact that it's hidden.
This is what they want.
This is the tragic elegance of the VAT, and this is what they're going to push for.
Because you will never, ever suck from the U.S.
economy via the tax system now.
Income, corporate, capital gains, excise, imposes, duties.
You will never, ever get that much money out of the economy as you need.
And Ocasio-Cortez and everyone else, Bernie Sanders, Kamala Harris and others, know that is absolutely true.
They'll get elected.
And all of a sudden you'll start seeing the VAT conversation creep up.
One more note on this, because I didn't explain that portion well enough.
Why is a VAT, Joe, regressive?
In other words, why does it impact the poor and the middle class more than it does the rich?
Folks, it's obvious.
Consumption as a percentage of people's income and wealth.
Consumption, food, gas, car bills, clothing, things you would pay a vat on, this tax, which would be substantial, be built in at every layer.
That is a far higher percentage of your wealth and your income if you're middle class.
Folks, if you're wealthy and you're worth $10 million, honestly, let's just be honest with each other, does a $4 or $5 gas price matter to you?
What do you care?
You're probably driving a Bentley or a Maserati.
What do you, you don't even care.
You put it on a credit card and just pay the credit card bill every month.
If gas is $100 a gallon, it probably stinks, but it doesn't affect your income.
But I assure you, When gas and t-shirts and food double in price due to a VAT, the effect on your income is going to be dramatic.
Because it's a consumption-based tax.
And people in the middle class and in the poor, consumption, what they spend to survive, food, clothing, gas, car bills, repairs, the healthcare, is a far, far greater percentage of their daily expenses and income than it is for the rich.
The rich have so much money, ladies and gentlemen, at some point that, you know, healthcare, food, all that stuff.
That's great.
They need that to survive, but it's an infinitesimally small portion of their income.
The rest they can cut back on.
A vat?
They don't want to pay a vat on buying another boat.
They just don't buy it.
They don't care.
They'll still be alive.
But it'll affect every single component of your life.
Alright folks, I just want to give a quick shout out to my buddy Dion Baia.
He works over at Fox.
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