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Get ready to hear the truth about America with your host, Dan Bongino.
Hi, welcome to the Dan Bongino Show.
Producer Joe, how are you today?
It's a wonderful day, Dan.
I'm glad to be here.
Joe's laughing because, you know, after I do Levin, I filled in for Levin last night, I usually get to bed late and I wake up super salty the next day, right?
You can always tell.
And this morning I woke up and, like, the king of salt.
Salt everywhere.
Salt spewing from every pore.
And it only aggravates me more when I read stories like this Lisa Page story, this FBI lawyer, who's just like, yeah, we're just going to ignore that subpoena.
Joe's telling me before the show, he's like, well, you know, ignore it.
What would happen to us if we did that?
I'll tell you what happened to you.
You'd be in jail.
That's exactly what would happen to you.
I'm gonna get into that in a minute, how there's two systems of justice in this country, and you can't have two systems of justice.
Folks, you can't have a boxing match where there's two different sets of rules, okay?
You can't.
You can't have two sets of rules where one side's like, listen, for you it's okay to do a groin punch, okay?
But the other side, no good.
You have to obey the standard above-the-belt contact, no punches in the back, when I say break, break.
Well, the other guy gets to do whatever?
Yeah, the other guy gets to do whatever.
The other guy, actually, he's allowed to knife you in the middle of the fight.
You'd be like, who the hell wants to play that game?
No fair.
Ladies and gentlemen, the game is democracy, right?
In a constitutional republic.
Nobody's going to want to play the game if these two different sets of rules continue to apply to everybody.
Lisa Page, the FBI lawyer, who was subpoenaed to testify in front of Congress.
Oh, yeah, I think we're just going to ignore that subpoena.
We don't feel like showing up.
No, no, no, that's not how this works.
Get your butt into the hall and start answering questions up on the hill.
Alright, more of that in a second.
But yes, the salt is flowing today.
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Alright, so this Page thing is really annoying me, folks.
It's on my mind because Lisa Page, the FBI lawyer who was intimately involved in the Spygate fiasco, the FISA operation, the spying operation on the Trump team, along with investigator Peter Shirk.
Remember, Page was a lawyer for the FBI.
She was not a special agent.
Stroke was a special agent.
He was also a manager.
He was the number two person in the counterintelligence division.
This is an important distinction.
Page, who was having an affair, as it's alleged, with Stroke at the time, they have these text messages back and forth.
These text messages are incredible.
They reveal a deep animus towards the Trump team.
And folks, this is not irrelevant.
Listen, the liberal talking point on this, ladies and gentlemen, has been, well, they're allowed to have their political feelings, and they are.
No one is saying that people aren't entitled in a constitutional republic to have political feelings, even if you do have a government job, even if it's in law enforcement.
But folks, if you are the lead manager, the number two person in the counterintelligence division responsible for investigating Trump and Hillary Clinton, and you're having an affair with a woman and both of you exchange messages about a deep personal hatred for the Trump team, I think that is entirely relevant and the American public should know if that animus motivated some of your decisions.
Now, contrary to what liberals want you to believe, the Inspector General report did not say there was no political bias.
It said they could not prove in any individual decision a political bias, but also concluded, Joe, in the FBI's decision to sideline the Hillary investigation when the Huma Abedin emails came up, and to highlight the Trump-Russia investigation despite a paucity of evidence, almost none, that there was actual collusion, they did conclude that This is kind of double, triple, reverse negatives here, so try to follow this.
That they could not eliminate political bias as a reason for doing that.
You get what I'm saying, Joe?
Yeah.
That the FBI, they could, that the Inspector General, that was, you know, kind of the internal affairs for the FBI in this, they couldn't eliminate political bias as a reason for their decision to highlight the Trump-Russia investigation over the Hillary email investigation.
Folks, this is important stuff.
You know, Americans are getting frustrated here, and I bring all that up because Paige, Lisa Paige, is integral to this.
She subpoenaed to testify seven months ago.
In front of Congress.
Now, as Joe and I were talking before the show, and sometimes we carry it onto the air, what's the point, folks?
What's the point if there's a bifurcated system of justice?
One for the connected, and one for everybody else.
What are we, the Great Unwashed out there?
Throughout human history, we've had these monarchies, these tyrannical governments that have... the whole essence of their existence, Joe, was a bifurcated system of standards.
The elites, the kings, the dukes, the earls, the connected, the bourgeois, whatever they were, they always played by a different set of rules.
Political favoritism, financial and economic favoritism, legal favoritism, the rules didn't apply to them.
If you challenge them, you would find yourself a political prisoner, bankrupted, your land confiscated, and likely your family and friends enslaved to the government.
There were two separate systems of government.
Human beings don't work like that.
Human beings work based on an equity-based system.
I can prove it to you.
If you ever look at a lot of the research on whether it's human beings or even an animal research show, this is interesting.
This is not an insignificant point here.
Both animals and humans, in some respect, focus more on equity than they do their net benefit in the end.
In other words, if you were to offer Joe a system where Joe gets, say, five chits and another guy gets ten chits, Joe will accept less chits.
Chits is like, that's what we used to call like, you know, whatever, it's a generic term for like money overseas when we were Secret Service agents.
Trinkets, let's say, because some people may hear that wrong, especially if you were to get five trinkets, Joe, and someone else gets ten trinkets, and some of these animal research and human research studies, Joe says, well, why does he get ten and I get five?
Joe would rather a system where he gets less trinkets, as long as the other guy gets the same amount, than a system where he gets actually more trinkets himself, but the other guy gets more.
Does that make sense?
Human beings will prefer equity and fairness over... it's a reason sometimes democrat socialist talking points tend to work on young impressionable people.
They're almost willing to accept less at certain points in some bizarre sense of equity.
This is what human beings will strive for.
They'll strive for equity over net benefit.
This is important.
It's important Because this is the essence of a constitutional republic, the idea that we're all in the same boat, even if that boat hurts us or benefits us at any point, that we're all subjected to the same rules.
Folks, I don't mean to do a long, extended monologue on this, but that's not what's happening right now.
You have the Clinton team, you have Huma Abedin, you have Sheryl Mills, you have almost the entire Democrat apparatus it seems these days that are living by a different set of legal rules and standards and people who've aligned with liberal ideas than people who live out in the general public and I don't know how long they expect this, you know, to continue.
Again, you can't get involved in a boxing match where one side's allowed to put knives and razor blades inside his glove, and you are not.
No one's going to be willing to play that match anymore, to fight in that fight.
It's frustrating.
You know what?
Yesterday I was driving back from the gym and I'm listening to this about Lisa Page refusing this congressional subpoena and it's just amazing the game that's played and how the media does not call these people out on it.
Because of course, Page was a lawyer that hated Trump, went after Trump, so she's a media favorite and they're going to protect her.
Here's my suggestion.
Let me wrap this up because I've spent too much time on this already.
I have like four or five other things I want to get to.
Joe, here's what has to happen.
It's me whining about it.
It's not going to get anything done.
There has to be some enforcement of this.
There has to be a referral to the DOJ.
There has to be.
Lisa Page does not show up, then Lisa Page should go to jail until she does show up.
Because that's what would happen to everybody else.
You want to defy a congressional subpoena, it should be referred and it should be prosecuted.
Now, Joe, I'm an absolute believer in the Constitution.
I'm a libertarian at heart.
If Lisa Page wants to show up and plead the fifth, that's great.
She's perfectly entitled in her role as a United States citizen to do that.
That is great, and although I wouldn't applaud the decision, I would support it.
That is your right.
She is not obligated to testify against herself, and if she doesn't want to, show up and plead the fifth.
But I'm sorry, you not showing up, and basically gaffing off the justice system while the rest of us would find ourselves in a prison for doing so, is entirely unsat- unsatisfactory.
Not gonna happen.
You get her hauled off into what, you go to jail.
Now you want to testify?
Okay, show, all you got to do is show up.
So it's not complicated.
By the way, a little bit of a lighter note, because I know I've been salty today.
It's just watching your Trump over in London and at that NATO conference before, maybe think of the Secret Service when I was in there.
Yeah, it was, when you go over to these overseas conferences, I brought this up on Levin last night.
It's interesting because you'll get these logistics people and they always, always want to make it seem like the United States is just an additional player in the event.
Let me try to explain this to you.
It's got some inside baseball on this.
It's kind of funny, this psychology.
When you've done enough of these, you'll get it.
So you're a Secret Service agent.
The way these advance teams work is there's a lead advance for the Secret Service.
He coordinates all the security.
There's a lead advance for WAMO, the White House Military Office.
They'll go over there, coordinate WACA, the White House Communications Agency, which is also run by the military.
They'll coordinate the White House Medical Office, that's the military runs that through military doctors.
They'll also coordinate, you know, how the mill aide, the White House military aide, the guy who holds the football, how that's going to work.
So there's basically a threefer, right?
There's the White House Staff Secret Service and the military that go over and do that.
If you've been involved in any of these, you'll know what I'm talking about.
Whenever you go over to, like, NATO, even within the UN, even though it's on U.S.
soil, you go over to any of these ASEAN conferences or these big conferences where multiple countries attend, the logistics people on the ground always want to make it appear that, you know, listen, you guys are just another, you know, foreign dignitary here and you're going to follow the rules of everybody else.
And it was always a trip because Listen, it's the Secret Service, we don't like to cause a lot of controversy, but as I said last night, we'll come in and we'll be like, listen, here's how this is gonna roll.
The President of the United States is not like everyone else, okay?
So you can get in our way if you'd like, but it's a freight train coming into town.
When Air Force One lands, we're doing what we want, and we're not really asking your permission.
This would happen every single time, I can't even tell you.
One of the defining moments, I thought, in the Secret Service is when someone tried to put their foot down on a trip once.
It's still on YouTube.
There's a video of President Bush in Chile.
Chile.
Again, I'm sorry.
I said it last night for you people.
Chile!
He's in Chile.
And Nick Trotta, who was the SAC at the time, the special agent in charge of Bush's detail.
Sorry, let me put my... This is so annoying.
I forget to put my phone on do not disturb.
You can leave that in.
Sometimes people call me and it rings in my new iMac, which is really irritating, so I can hear it in my ear.
So Nick Trotta, who is the special agent in charge of the detail, he's walking in with President Bush to this big conference in Chile with all these international leaders.
And the Chilean Secret Service guys go to stop the Secret Service boss.
And he's like, what are you doing?
And then Bush makes a U-turn, turns around Joe, grabs him, and the guy's name is Nicky.
Nicky!
Nicky!
Ladies and gentlemen, it's on YouTube.
But President Bush, Chile, whatever, Chilean Secret Service stops President Bush.
You can see it yourself.
It's hysterical what happens because the Chilean Secret Service dudes are like, wait, what?
And man, they part like Moses parting the Red Sea.
Because you don't want to go hands-on with the U.S.
President.
But we warned them.
We're like, listen, daddy-o, this ain't the way this is going down.
The President's not leaving without his Secret Service guys, and we're not going anywhere without him.
But the problem was, you may be saying, well, why'd the Secret Service guys allow themselves to be stopped?
Watch the video.
You'll see they create like a human wall in front of him.
What's he gonna do?
Like burst through six, seven guys?
And Bush sees it right away and just reaches over them.
They don't even see him coming.
Nicky!
Nicky!
That's the best thing.
We warned you.
We warned you.
Don't get in the way from us.
We're just gonna steamroll you.
Okay.
Moving on.
A lot of news to cover.
I am beginning to think That the selection of Kavanaugh over other candidates may have been a brilliant tactical move by Trump.
Again, you know me, I don't golden calf anyone, Trump included.
If there's a screw-up, we're happy to highlight it in the interest of the audience getting the information out there, right?
But I think President Trump is frequently attacked by his critics, even some in the conservative movement, under the illusion that he is He's basically impulsive and doesn't think decisions out.
And I disagree.
I explained to you yesterday what I thought the significance of the executive order on immigration was, how he just smoked them on that one.
Completely beat his critics down on that one.
And I think the selection of Kavanaugh was genius.
I'm going to explain in a minute.
Now you know where I stand.
My personal favorite was Mike Lee.
I thought he was the I know there's some disagreement amongst you out there, but I'm sorry.
I'm behind him 100%.
I think he was the best choice, hands down.
But it didn't work out.
Now, given the final four, it was Kethledge, Hardiman, Coney Barrett, and Kavanaugh, I thought of that group, Amy Coney Barrett, I thought was the best selection for conservatism.
Yeah, I know you did.
We chatted about this.
Now I'm starting to think Trump, again, even got me on this one.
Listen, I'm a humble cat, folks, I am.
I'm always honored to be here, but when I'm wrong, I think I was wrong.
And let me explain why.
Coney Barrett, I think, by far was the most conservative, and I don't know any of them.
I'm just basing it on people I trust who've done pretty thorough vetting and analyses of these candidates for the Supreme Court.
I thought Coney Barrett, based on her answers on prior vetting process, I thought she was the most conservative, especially on some of the social issues.
I'm not saying Kavanaugh's not.
I want to be clear on this, and I'm not saying I won't support it, You know, it doesn't matter.
I don't get a vote on it anyway, but you listen to my show, I owe you an opinion.
But it was brilliant.
Why?
Here's the thing, folks.
The Senate polling For the midterm 2018 elections coming up in November is turning dramatically in the Republicans direction.
Now, right now, we have 51.
And really, effectively, Joe, we only have 50.
Because John McCain is ill.
We only have 50, which would mean Pence, you know, we need Pence here to vote as the vice president, the tiebreaker in here.
We would need, especially if one of them defects, and depending on what happens with the Democrats, we may need Pence to produce.
You have Collins and Murkowski who are always, you know, the rhinos who are always up in the air with these votes.
They're alleged Republicans, but you can never really trust them.
Susan Collins and Lisa Murkowski.
So what I'm trying to get at is the vote's going to be tight either way on Kavanaugh.
Trump understood this.
He had to understand this in advance, but now he sees the polling going in the opposite direction.
What does it have to do with this?
I will bet you he's figuring, okay, Anthony Kennedy, he understands the leftist game, okay, Joe?
The leftist game is always going to be identity politics, right?
Anthony Kennedy is not a woman.
Nor is Anthony Kennedy black or Hispanic.
He is a white male.
Now, again, that doesn't... I don't give a hoot about any of that crap, and neither should any Republican, but I think tactically speaking, Trump understands the identity politics game and understands that Kennedy, being a white male, That he will face far less flak if he replaces a white male with another white male than if he were to replace, say, Ruth Bader Ginsburg with a white male.
I'm not sanctioning any.
I'm just saying it's political savvy based on the left's preemptive counter of what he knows the left's strike is going to be.
They're always going to strike on identity politics.
So he says to himself, and if I'm confusing anybody, Joe, please stop me, but this is important, folks.
Trump is a savvy cat.
Again, everybody plays him for a dope.
He is not.
He's figuring right now, I probably have at least one more Supreme Court pick, and that's for Bader Ginsburg.
He's thinking ahead, whereas a lot of people are thinking right now, in the moment only.
Trump's saying, OK, I've got two.
I don't have one.
I know we probably have Bader Ginsburg, too.
Ruth Bader Ginsburg's getting older.
You know, obviously, God forbid, not wishing ill on anybody.
I'm just unlike the left, who would probably do that, you know, which is disgusting.
But she is getting old.
And he's probably figuring, I have one more pick.
Not only that, Joe.
In that one more pick, the Senate polling is turning dramatically in the Republicans' direction right now.
It looks like Florida stands a damn good chance that they can oust Bill Nelson, who's a Democrat down here in my state.
That would be a flip.
Joe Manchin, Donnelly, Heitkamp are in a little bit of trouble, meaning they could pad their lead.
Meaning, after January, if Ruth Bader Ginsburg were to step aside, that he has a larger leeway to lose the RINO class and nominate a more staunch conservative.
That, Joe, he doesn't have now.
Also, you know the left's identity politics can't.
The left is saying to themselves, oh, Ruth Bader Ginsburg, there better be a woman in there.
So what does he do?
He takes a pass on Coney Barrett now, knowing that he has Coney Barrett in the judicial bullpen in case Ruth Bader Ginsburg steps down, and also knowing, Joe, also it's important that he may have a larger Senate lead To pad so he can lose the Rhinos, therefore he can nominate a more staunchly conservative candidate for that position in Coney Barrett and not have to worry about losing the Rhinos like Collins and McKesson.
Don't make me scream like a white lady!
What the hell was that?
That was Little Richard.
Was it?
Are you kidding me?
Dude, I have no idea where you get these.
I think he sits there before the show and goes through the internet for new and interesting drops to insert into my monologues here.
I was like, what the?
You know what I thought you were going to?
I know, you can see, but you know what I thought?
You know what I thought?
I thought you were going to the Trump one that you love so much.
What is that one again?
Sometimes you gotta fat yourself on the back.
Sometimes you gotta toot your own horn, yeah.
Sometimes you gotta toot your own, I swear, that's his go-to.
But that's it, you know the identity politics game, and Trump knows it too, and shame on me for not, for again, falling into a bit of the trap here.
That Trump was playing in the present.
I really think that Kavanaugh picked, because a lot of people are slamming him, and this is the only reason I'm bringing this up, folks, to give you kind of an inside baseball about what I think is going on, because there are some people who are slamming Trump, even on our side, saying, well, Kavanaugh's an establishment guy, he's an insider guy.
Folks, Right now, I'll take what we can get, not what we want.
If in the future we get what we want, knowing worst-case scenario.
I know that this is not a losing attitude.
We don't have any leeway here to lose anyone.
If Kavanaugh, yes, he has some establishment connections, I get it.
But his legal briefings are solid on the Second Amendment.
Solid on Chevron.
Solid on separation of powers.
If at worst, Joe, Kavanaugh turns into a swing voter, we've lost nothing.
We've lost nothing because it was Kennedy who was a swing voter anyway.
Right?
We've lost nothing at this point.
We're at the status quo.
But if he did it knowing That Bader Ginsburg, that we're going to get Coney Barrett later on, and he can get Kavanaugh right now locked in, he's basically altered the Supreme Court for a generation because he's already anticipating that Coney Barrett will definitely swing the Supreme Court in our direction because she is 100% no Ruth Bader Ginsburg.
You copying, folks?
Worst case scenario, you got another semi-swing voter with Kavanaugh.
You lose nothing because that's what Anthony Kennedy was.
He was with us on some things, not with us on others.
But that was probably the only guy he could get pushed through right now.
But he's following the polling.
So do you get this?
He's following the polling.
He's following the likely padding in the Senate coming up after January where he has some leeway with someone more conservative.
He also understands and is going to preempt the left's identity politics game if he were to nominate them in reverse.
A woman for a man, a man for a woman.
Again, I'm not sanctioning any of this stuff.
I hate the identity politics game.
But Trump is not dumb.
He understands that the ramifications of the identity politics game are very real.
They can move public opinion because the left owns the media.
And by the way, I don't think Kavanaugh is going to be a swing vote.
I get it.
There are some issues.
Mark Levin has brought them up and he's right.
There are some significant issues on metadata.
You know, Justin Amash, who's a House member, has brought this up as well.
The collection of metadata.
I get it.
There are some issues there.
But I think this was the pick for the time, and I think we have to understand in the political game, you know, it's like Reagan, what was Reagan's line, Joe?
I'll take 80% of what we can get, we'll come back for the other 20% later.
That other 20% later is probably Trump anticipating another Supreme Court pick, knowing he's got an ace in the hole in Coney Barrett.
I'm telling you, folks, don't downplay that.
By the way, speaking of that, there's an attack on Kavanaugh that's been materializing that is just entirely disingenuous and ridiculous.
I'm going to debunk this for you right now with your liberal friends, because it's so ridiculous.
Andy McCarthy has a great piece on it in National Review.
It's up in the show notes today, and it will eviscerate Stupid liberal arguments about how Kavanaugh, the new argument, Joe, is Kavanaugh was appointed by Trump because he believes Trump is immune to prosecution.
Oh, come on!
No, it's so dumb.
So I'm going to get to that in a second.
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Okie dokie!
So, Andy McCarthy in another spectacular piece.
This guy is my go-to legal genius for debunking stupid legal arguments made by ideologically bankrupt leftists desperate to take people down through pseudo-intellectual arguments.
The new argument again is Kavanaugh was appointed because he believes that the president is immune from any kind of criminal prosecution whatsoever.
Yeah.
Sometimes, Joe, I wish this was a video program.
It may be.
It may be.
Joe and I are working on some things.
You may get to watch this thing live with me and Armacost, which would be hysterical watching us actually.
Some people think that the audio of me and him interacting is funny.
The video, I promise you, is a thousand times better.
Joe almost falls off the chair when I say something he thinks is funny.
So, This is funny because McCarthy writes in the piece that the Minnesota Law Review piece written by Kavanaugh that they're using to state that potential justice Kavanaugh now thinks that the president is above the law is entitled... Joe, I'm not making this up.
Ladies and gentlemen, this is not a joke.
This is the actual title of the piece.
No one is above the law in our system of government.
I strongly agree with that principle.
This is not a joke!
That's the title of the piece Kavanaugh wrote that the left is saying Kavanaugh thinks President Trump is above the law.
Let me read this to you again in case the stupid has widely infected our society and you need to be immune to this.
This is your injection right now.
Brett Kavanaugh, Minnesota Law Review.
Title.
No one is above the law in our system of government.
I strongly agree with that principle.
Oh my gosh.
What is she doing back there?
What is she doing?
Ma!
Liberals, I don't get it.
This is the piece now.
McCarthy in his always eloquent way of writing.
Writes a nice 800-900 word piece at National Review.
It'll be in the show notes today at Bongino.com.
Please subscribe to my email list if you don't mind.
Helps us get these great articles out there.
I'd like you to read it because it so thoroughly eviscerates your liberal friend's stupid arguments that they will have nowhere to go.
Kavanaugh's take in the piece is exactly that.
The president is not above the law.
Kavanaugh's piece simply makes a very simple point that I thought was understood amongst reasonable, non-emotionally involved people.
That doesn't include liberals, of course.
All their arguments are emotion.
And right now it's emotion based on hatred of Trump.
Kavanaugh's argument is this, folks.
That the president has to be impeached first, through the process, before he is subjected to the criminal system.
That's it!
By the way, that's what the Constitution says.
This is not a controversial point of view.
The Office of Legal Counsel has already established that the President, while in office, cannot be indicted.
Joe, while in office... Got it.
Of course, Joe, you're not a lawyer, right?
I'm not a lawyer, Dan.
Okay, Joe, I have to ask Joe this all the time because I know liberals listening to this who are so...
You just hate the president so much.
You're saying things that are... Do you understand you're making yourselves look silly?
Because it's not that your arguments even require any kind of a detailed analysis to break.
They just require a simple reading of the headline of an article to break.
You don't even have to read the Kavanaugh piece.
Just read the title of it.
The title of the piece is the exact opposite of what you're saying Kavanaugh supports.
He is making the point, Kavanaugh, that the Constitution has a process for the potential criminal prosecution of the President of the United States.
The process is this.
He cannot be indicted by the criminal process while he is... This is an Office of Legal... This is not in the Constitution.
This is an Office of Legal Counsel interpretation of that.
That applies to Democrats and Republicans.
The Constitution lays out the impeachment process.
But You cannot be indicted while you're in office.
That doesn't mean if the president is credibly accused of a crime, a significant crime by the way, I'm not talking about like jaywalking, I mean obviously that would probably be laughed out, but if the president in office, they were videotaped of the president engaged in a bank heist somewhere, I mean I'm being ridiculous, but Joe with liberals unfortunately you have to do this.
It works best.
The process works like this.
He has to be impeached from office first.
When he is impeached from office, he has none of the pardoning power, he has no insulation whatsoever from the criminal judicial system.
He is not above the law.
Kavanaugh was making that point, that he is not above the law at all.
There are remedies to get rid of presidents engaged in malfeasance.
The remedies are delineated and laid out in the Constitution.
And subsequent Office of Legal Counsel analysis of the Constitution which says, no, the President can be indicted, just not while he's in office.
He has to be impeached first.
Now, Joe, we're not talking about if now, right?
If the President can be indicted.
I just told you he can!
He just has to be impeached first.
So that question is out.
Liberals want to keep it from us.
President, what is Kavanaugh saying?
He's above the law.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
We're not talking about if the president is subjected to the law.
Yes, he is.
We just laid out how it happens.
We're only talking about the timing.
If the president is impeached or Joe, I didn't even include this.
I should for liberals who have a tough time with this kind of stuff.
If he leaves office.
A president out of office after two terms is subjected to the exact same judicial process you and I are.
So even if he somehow gets off on the impeachment, he is still subjected when he leaves office to the exact same criminal justice system.
So are we clear here, Joe, that it's just a matter of timing, it's not a matter of if?
Right, yeah.
So do your liberal, and I'm trying to make this point, because your liberal friends, who are sadly not very bright, ...are going to now hit Kavanaugh and say, Kavanaugh is saying the president's not subjected to the law.
You should respond immediately.
No, no, that's not what Kavanaugh said.
He did not say the president was not subjected to the law.
He just argued about what the timing of his being subject to the law is.
That's the only argument here.
What you're saying is factually incorrect and false.
Do we understand?
Can we both agree what you're saying is now false?
Now, we can have a reasonable argument.
You can disagree, okay?
You're free to disagree about the timing, but you're not free to make up facts and say Kavanaugh said the president's not subjected to the law.
It is not the case at all.
Kavanaugh's argument and the argument of a lot of legal scholars and people who've interpreted the Constitution, read the Constitution, understand the law, it's just the timing of the president being subjected to the criminal process.
He would have to leave office or be impeached.
It is not if he's subjected to it.
That is not the argument.
Sorry for being repetitive, but again, liberals just make stuff up.
And unless you have in your head a firm, quick answer, they will continue to rhetorically dominate the conversation by spinning this.
Now, this is important.
Because your liberal friends will likely come back once you've beaten them on the first one about the if question.
It's not a matter of if.
It's only a matter of when.
And they'll come back, well, what do you mean?
Justice delayed is justice denied.
So what, we gotta wait for the president to leave office?
Right, Joe?
This'll be their next argument.
We gotta wait for him to leave what?
We gotta wait for him to be impeached?
Trump colluded with the Russians.
He's a spy.
We gotta get him out now.
He should be indicted.
This is what liberals do.
Nobody else gets that.
Really?
You sure about that?
Because Andy McCarthy lays out again because he's just the best in his National Review piece.
That's actually not the case, Joe!
That when you look at the statute of limitations in the government, the Speedy Trial Act, that the government is constantly delaying cases.
Remember, it's not a matter of if they're going to prosecute someone, but a matter of when.
And the Speedy Trial Act lays out a number of conditions where you can delay justice, just like you would delay justice for the President of the United States because he's the President!
He's dealing with global affairs, the domestic economy, all kinds of things, and the founders thought it pertinent and important that he not be subjected to standard judicial processes while he's in office, that he should either be impeached for criminality or these other items that would bog down his time should be handled when he leaves office.
It's as simple as that.
The statute of the Speedy Trial Act Provides a number of conditions where people can be, where justice is delayed.
Now, putting a cap on that, there's also a statute of limitations as well.
In other words, Joe, what McCarthy gets at, and please make sure you understand this, this is all important stuff, because I want you to leave this with a deep understanding of what's going on here.
There's a statute of limitations as well, meaning the government can't delay justice forever, because that's a denial of justice too.
In other words, Joe, let's say you get an FBI agent who just doesn't like you, and he knows you having to hire a lawyer is going to bankrupt you.
So what does he do?
He thinks he's got a loose but not great case.
So this FBI agent, this prosecutor, they just want to hammer you, Joe?
So what do they do?
They say, Joe, I think we've got you on felonious mobbery in the umpteenth degree.
We'll interview you.
And then you keep calling, guys, what's up with this case?
Hold, just hold, buddy.
You got to keep this lawyer on retainer.
Five, seven years later, Joe's lost all his hair.
He's lost 50 pounds, he's stressed out, he's bankrupt.
There's a statute of limitation that's imposed on the government to ensure justice is in fact done within a certain timeline or else the statute of limitations expires and you can't charge that person with that charge anymore.
In other words, folks, the founders, our constitutionalists, and some of our excellent conservatives out there through the history of writing laws and understanding this, understood that justice delayed is justice denied.
But justice can't, air quotes justice, cannot go on forever either.
That there has to be a limitation on that.
This is not new.
And I bring this up again because this argument by liberals that the the when question about the president, not if, there's no question the president subjected to criminal justice at some point if he was a criminal and they can prove it.
No question.
It's not an if question.
But the when question about when that justice Should happen.
And under what conditions?
It's not even unique to the president!
So even the liberal argument about, what, was the president special?
No, no!
There's statute of limitation laws.
There's Speedy Trial Act, which lays out conditions for a number of, uh, uh, uh, uh, folks and conditions where trial would be, uh, or a prosecution would be delayed.
Folks, You know, I tweeted out the other day, like, socialism is for stupid people, don't be a stupid person.
I'm sorry, but I got an email the other day, and, just yesterday, and if you're listening to my show today, you know who you are, and he's like, Dan, listen, I am a liberal, and I listen to your show, and I'm Levin, and you gotta stop, you know, ragging on liberals.
Listen, brother, I'm sorry, I can't, I'm sorry, it's just not my, I'm cool with this not being the show for you, I'm sorry.
I'm not ragging on Democrats.
I've only said that a thousand times because I have a lot of friends who are Democrats who frankly are kind of tired of what's going on too.
And they are, they're reasonable people.
We have some disagreements on some stuff, but they're pretty reasonable folks, men and women.
I do, I'm not making that up.
It's not a, it's not like virtue signaling.
I do have a lot of friends who are Democrats.
I, you know, I'm from New York and Maryland and Joe, I mean, Joe's surrounded by him, right?
And they're good, they're good dudes.
And you know, we just disagree.
I have found liberals, the 10-20% of the country, and probably 50-60% of the Democrat party, sadly now, to be entirely unreasonable.
And I'm sorry, if you're going to make dumb arguments, expect to be called dumb.
If you want to make intelligent, reasonable arguments, you can expect to be called intelligent and reasonable, but I can still disagree.
But dumb arguments like the President Kavanaugh is arguing, the President's above the law, it's just dumb!
All you had to do was read the headline of his piece!
But you're not even willing to do that, and you expect me to get into- Oh gosh, you don't want to hurt their feelings.
Sorry, I'm sorry, but it's the wrong show.
Maybe not for you.
All right, I've got a lot of stuff to get to.
All right, last one today.
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Um, this is, I love this story.
Love, love, love, love, love this story.
Triple love.
Lots of love.
Some people are, this is crazy.
People call me all the time.
They're on my show and it drives me nuts.
They leave these weirdo messages too.
It's like, hey, this is Bobby Bag of Donuts.
I got your number from so-and-so and you're like, who?
What?
By the way, one more thing.
This one guy, Mike, who emails me a lot.
I love you.
You just emailed me again.
You're a great guy.
But guys, I get my email out for a reason because I love to hear from you, but I'm a pretty hardheaded cat.
Telling me, like, it's an order what to talk about on my show is not a good thing.
Those emails go right to the circular file.
I'm sorry.
I love you to death, but Joe, you know me, right?
I told you not to talk about it.
Okay, thanks, and start your own show.
I don't know what to tell you.
I mean, I provide my email for a read.
I sincerely enjoy your feedback, it's great, but I wouldn't talk to you like that.
I mean, I'm only a human being.
I told you not to talk about that subject.
Circular file, no thanks, see ya.
Okay, this story's great.
Wall Street Journal today, a piece by James Freeman.
Joe, there's this investment company out there, and they buy up these companies, and they're super successful.
The company goes out, they scoop up a lot of these technology companies, and I mean, I can't prove any of this, it's in the piece, this is according to some of their business insiders that have spoken about this company.
Supposedly, they bought over 300 companies, and they've turned all these companies around and managed to make money on all of them, which is a tremendous success rate.
Oh, man!
Yeah, 300 for 300 in business would be now again. I don't have their
Quarterly filings on each company. I'm just telling you what's in the journal either way
we know the company's a success who knows if it was 290 or 300 or what but
People in the business world have been wondering forever like what the secret sauce is for this company is called Vista
the ISTA Like, what is the secret sauce?
How are they buying all these companies that, when other companies buy them, you know, if you get a 51% success rate, it's a score.
All of them?
Like, that doesn't make sense.
How are they buying these companies, Joe, and turning them into super successful ones without at least one of them going down?
So everybody's hunting for the secret sauce for Vista.
I read this piece, I was like, dug in like a tick.
It was so good.
So, industry insiders have been desperately trying to get the secret formula.
Apparently this company, Vista, anytime you go into the secret formula, I'm not making this up, it's not a joke, their secret formula database, they can track any person who either downloads it or looks at it because they're so paranoid about someone getting their formula.
Now, the formula has leaked!
And it's the greatest thing ever!
Apparently some insiders from Vista are now speaking out.
Let me read to you the secret sauce, which by the way, will be shocking to liberals.
But to conservatives listening, you're going to be like, that's the secret sauce?
No, I'm not kidding.
But it's great because it makes my point how dopey liberalism is.
Okay.
From the James Freeman piece in the Wall Street Journal, former employees talking about Vista say cost-cutting is critical to Vista's model.
Oh, that's the secret sauce?
Some of the companies Vista takes over are located in markets with a high cost of living, such as Southern California or New York City.
To tamp down wages, Joe, and other costs, Vista will relocate part or all of their company to less expensive cities such as Dallas.
Many employees won't make the move, allowing Vista to hire cheaper replacements.
Vista often keeps the company's headquarters in place and encourages it to expand in lower-cost markets.
That's the secret sauce?
I read this whole article waiting for some net present value analysis, some different variable they found, some kind of way to recalculate a hurdle rate.
I did go to business school.
I loved it.
I had a great time.
I can't recommend an MBA enough.
I learned so much.
That's the secret sauce.
Now, if you're a conservative, you're probably listening and going, duh.
But the duh is the argument.
This is not complicated.
Dear liberals, you want your state to be successful?
Lower tax rates, reduce the burden of government.
Make the cost of living lower so that you can pay wages that are more competitive.
In other words, you don't have to pay an employee $700,000 a year or whatever, like you have to pay them in San Francisco so they can afford a house.
You pay an employee $70,000 or $80,000, they got a nice house, they got a nice car, they can live comfortably in low-cost areas because the cost of living isn't as high.
The secret sauce The secret sauce!
It's not secret!
That's the secret sauce!
All this company does is it buys up companies and moves them from crappy liberal locations to business competitive states!
And you know how much I love this argument, Joe, because...
I'm passionate about it because having grown up in both New York and Maryland, deeply blue states, some of the deepest blue states in the country.
I know Joe is still up there in Maryland.
You look around and you say, and I know Joe, you and I have discussed this often.
You look around and you say, why?
Why?
It doesn't have to be this way.
Why?
I'm telling you folks, I cannot say enough about Maryland.
It is awesome.
You want mountains?
They got it.
You want coastline?
They got it.
They got some of the most gorgeous coastline in the country.
You want beaches?
They got that.
You want access to other states?
When you're in Western Maryland, you can travel like 8-10 miles.
You can be in 3 different states.
It's amazing.
Maryland is beautiful.
You want a big city?
They got that.
You want baseball teams?
Football teams?
They got that.
You want small cities?
Annapolis?
Frederick?
They got that too.
You want crabs?
They got the best in the country.
That could have broken bad.
That could have broken bad quickly.
You want crab cakes?
They definitely got the best in the country.
Good food!
Good everything!
It's an awesome state!
You look around and if you're a conservative and you understand the absolute power of entrepreneurialism and the power of money in people's pockets and not of government, you say to yourself, why?
Why does this state have to be struggling constantly with high taxes, overwhelming government?
Now, Maryland's actually not doing that bad right now.
Because they got Larry Hogan in there, and although he's not a conservative, I'm sorry, I mean, I like Larry, but let's not mistake Larry Hogan, the Republican governor, for a conservative there.
He's definitely better than the alternative.
No question about it.
And should be re-elected.
The alternative is far worse.
The 80%, 20% Reagan thing I said before applies there.
But New York is a mess.
I grew up there too.
And you look around again and you say, why?
Why does it have to be this way?
When you read the piece on Vista, it all makes sense.
The secret sauce is very simple.
You take a company in a high-tax state with a high tax burden, a high cost of living.
A high cost of living means what, Joe?
You have to pay employees more to live there, which ups your wage costs.
You move them to low-cost states and all of a sudden they're successful!
Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding!
Folks, you understand, this is what liberals don't get.
This is why I can't recommend a good, strong business school enough.
When you go to business school, And I'm not trying to tell you that that's a replacement for real-world experience.
It's not.
I'd personally rather have a... If you gave me the choice, one or the other, a business school graduate or a person in business, I'll take the person in business.
But in a perfect world, I'll take someone in business who's been to business school.
Because you do learn a lot.
And one of the key takeaways is they teach you how to work simple things like spreadsheets and do a net present value analysis.
A net present value analysis, Joe, meaning what?
What is the value of a project today?
A future project in today's, is it positive or negative?
Now obviously, some of them require predictions.
So let's say you're putting out a t-shirt line, right?
Like we did.
And that t-shirt line is going to cost you X amount of money.
You have to buy t-shirt equipment, you have to buy ink, you have to pay employees.
The way net present value works is you anticipate a number of sales, say based on market demand, Joe, and some research, you think you're going to sell 10,000 t-shirts.
You put this all in a spreadsheet, you calculate all of your costs, all your expenses, your expected sales, and you get a net present value.
If that present value is positive, that means the project's a go, meaning you're probably going to make money on this project.
If the net present value is negative, because the expenses outweigh the costs, you're obviously not going to do the product.
It's not, a lot of it, some of it's guesswork, but a lot of it isn't.
Now, this is where it gets a little bit complicated.
Some of it's guesswork, what part's guesswork?
The expected sales.
It happens all the time.
I mean, people remember New Coke, Joe?
They thought New Coke was gonna sell off the shelves.
It was a total disaster.
Sometimes expected sales surprise you.
You know, you make a movie, you think, ah, it's a niche market movie, and all of a sudden the movie explodes and there's 100 million at the box office.
But you can make reasonable predictions based on market demand about things like socks and t-shirts and computers, but that's a guess.
There are other things, ladies and gentlemen, expenses and costs, that are not a guess.
What are they?
Cost of living in the area, taxes, business taxes, regulatory expenses, getting lawyers to get the requirements you need for the t-shirt to meet the labeling requirements.
These are all factored in expenses that don't have to be so high.
If you lower the cost of the business taxes and the regulatory requirements in a state and you make those costs less, the value of the project goes up.
It's simple math.
There's no prediction in that at all.
None!
Because the tax rates are written in stone!
It's not an anticipated number of t-shirt sales, it's the tax rate!
If you live in a state with super high cost of living, you're gonna have to pay your employees more because they can't afford anything there unless you pay them more.
If the cost of living goes down, you can afford to pay them less but a more competitive wage nonetheless.
And then also if the tax rates go down, that's more money for the project and less money for the government.
This is not hard!
But Vista seems to have made a lot of money figuring out that liberal states generally stink for business.
Gosh, if I only would have thought of that sooner.
It's a great piece.
It's a great piece because it's so simple.
And that they hide this secret sauce tells me that some companies are so ideologically motivated and whatever, we gotta commit to this social justice and all this other stuff, that they've forgotten basic tenets of business.
Like, if you don't make money, none of this matters.
Your commitment to social justice and all these other things is irrelevant because you don't have any money!
Alright.
Just a couple more quick stories to get through.
It's really good though.
You know what?
I'll put it in the show notes today.
It's probably subscriber only, forgive me, but...
Some of you may have subscriptions to the journal and it's really good because you should show it to your liberal friends.
Hey, here's the secret sauce.
What's that?
Liberal states suck.
That's the secret sauce.
Right?
All right.
A couple more quick stories.
Rod Rosenstein.
What is going on with this guy?
I'll put a story from Law and Crime in the show notes today as well up on Gino.com.
Rosenstein is, it's a blog by the way, Law and Crime.
Is requesting his United States attorneys to review potential justice Brett Kavanaugh's paper trail?
Why is Rod Rosenstein injecting himself in the vetting process for a Supreme Court justice?
Folks, listen, I am not a Supreme Court legal scholar, but I've never heard anything like this.
And the Law and Crime blog, which is not a right-leaning blog by any stretch, even has some questions about this too.
Wait, what?
Does Rosenstein have a God complex?
This reminds me of that movie Malice with Alec Baldwin.
I mean, is this guy serious?
What is Rosenstein doing?
Why is he injecting himself in this process?
I get it that Kavanaugh has an extensive legal trail, but we're allocating United States attorneys and assistant United States attorneys to assist in the vetting of a...
Of a Supreme Court justice?
Potentially this doesn't make any sense, folks.
I know my limitations on this.
Read the piece, though, because I've never heard of this before.
And if I'm wrong and you have some information, you know my email, email me.
But this is very suspicious to me.
And I really, Rosenstein is a complete train wreck.
I don't know where this guy's going with this stuff sometimes.
One final story.
This is important.
In the show notes today, if you have a child in school, if you work in a school, if you know someone in a school, if you know someone who knows someone in a school, you know I extolled the virtues of the Secret Services study in the past about the motivations behind people involved in targeted school violence, the NTAC, National Threat Assessment Center Survey.
Regular listeners to the show, you know what I'm talking about.
It's an older study.
I found out yesterday that the Secret Service is launching a new study this morning.
I have a nice sneak peek for you.
It's in the show notes.
I'm going to give you the two-page PDF.
There's a longer, more extended version of it.
The two-page PDF sums up some excellent research they've done on school safety and school security.
The link will be in the show notes.
Please give it a read.
It talks about things like how to do an analysis beforehand of the threat.
It uses some of the Secret Service principles.
Things like capacity, planning.
In other words, yes, you may get a lot of threats.
What's the capacity for the person to carry that out?
What's the planning capabilities of that person?
This is really, really important stuff.
If you work in a school, download it, print it.
It's a two-pager.
It's super simple.
If you have kids in a school, print it up.
See if your school administrator is interested in looking at it.
It has some great suggestions on threat assessment, on how to ask questions of these kids, what to do with the information.
It is a really, really good report.
I tweeted it out.
The link will be in the show notes.
I'm going to bring it up later on my NRA TV show as well, 5.30 p.m.
Eastern Time at NRATV.com.
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