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In this episode I address some common misconceptions about socialism. I also address the continued Antifa violence and the explosive information coming out about the House IT scandal.
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Get ready to hear the truth about America on a show that's not immune to the facts with your host, Dan Bongino.
All right, welcome to Dan Bongino's show.
Producer Joe, how are you today?
Feeling groovy, as usual.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Tuesday, Tuesday.
We will have a Fourth of July show.
We will be recording it.
It's not like some show we recorded three years ago and are going to throw at you tomorrow.
We'll be recording it maybe after this, maybe tomorrow morning, but Probably be a Rough Cuts type format, so don't miss the show.
You know, as always, a lot going on, and it's just interesting.
I wasn't going to cover this today, but before I dive into the show, it's fascinating how liberals, you know, are losing their minds over this Supreme Court pick, Joe.
And, of course, the scare tactics on abortion come up right away, right?
That's the first thing they do, is because abortion to the left is a sacrament.
But, you know, I'm reading a piece in the Wall Street Journal today, and they're absolutely right.
Liberals, what are you so afraid of?
What are you so afraid of if America's so settled on abortion and the so-called right to terminate life in the womb?
If America's settled on the question, Joe, right?
We're all settled.
It's settled.
We should not overturn settled law and everybody agrees.
If we're settled on it, then what are you so worried about?
I mean, think about it, Joe, right?
If everybody seems to agree on abortion and that a justice who is potentially pro-life and could overturn Roe is such a threat to the system, then that would require That there was some kind of mass consensus on the question.
Let me give you a better example of this.
You see, that's how I get off track, but it's important because I read this right before I came on the air and I'm like, this is a critical point you all need to understand.
How the left, the narrative, the narrative, the narrative.
It's all about the narrative, but it's never based in actual fact and what's going on.
Joe, you're on with politicians all the time on the radio show.
You know, I talk to politicians frequently, unfortunately.
Yeah.
Is there any consensus to overturn, say, Plessy versus Ferguson?
In other words, racially segregated schools.
Any.
Is anybody calling into WCBM going, we should go back to de jure government segregation in schools?
Anyone?
Not a soul, Dan.
No, not a soul.
You're right.
Outside of like a complete psychopath, nobody is calling for that.
Nobody.
Because it was obviously the wrong decision.
Obviously.
I'm talking about the decision to enforce government segregation.
That's obvious.
It was obviously a stain on the country.
There's no question about that amongst any sane, rational person, okay?
Joe, also, is there any consensus on, say, government-enforced sterilizations for people who may have some kind of handicap?
Is there any consensus to go back to that?
No.
No.
Okay, thank you!
Because this was dumb!
It was a stupid, immoral decision!
Nobody's going to ask a Supreme Court justice about that because it's accepted morally, ethically, legally, and everything else that these were horrible stains on the country.
If the right to an abortion, right, the air quotes, is so agreed upon, then what are you so worried about, right?
If it's a mass consensus, like forced segregation, forced sterilization was wrong, which it obviously was, there is a mass consensus, then why are you worried?
If public opinion is so in your favor about the right to terminate life in the womb, why is it so fragile then?
That's a great argument.
You're so terrified that one person, one justice appointed to the Supreme Court at the associate justice level will turn over this entire precedent, yet you're so convinced everybody agrees with you?
Maybe you're wrong.
Has that ever occurred to you?
Really terrific.
There's a couple actual pieces in the journal today about that, but that's absolutely right.
Areas of mass consensus where society is definitely moving in the positive arc of history, there's no concern about things like that.
There's only concern about things where people start to say, wait, is this abortion thing right?
Is this right?
Maybe moral people are starting to say, ah, maybe termination of life in the womb is not a good thing for society.
Better just take it easy.
You bet.
See, he listens to the show.
He listens to the show.
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You were gold.
That was great.
That was a great poll.
Our audience is the best.
That wasn't even part of my show prep today.
I just finished the article right before I got up on the air.
All right, this Antifa thing.
Did you see the Antifa video?
The Antifa guy with the baton?
I'm gonna get to that.
Nah, I didn't see that one, no.
Yeah, man, this is just... It goes to prove our point, Joe.
All right, get to that in a second.
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So a couple of folks yesterday, I didn't have a lot of time yesterday to cover this because we were so stacked up with information.
It always happens on a Monday after a busy news weekend.
Antifa.
There was another Antifa-induced riot in Portland, Oregon.
They're getting pretty good at this, Joe Antifa.
They are very skilled at starting violent riots, because that's what they do.
That's what Antifa is.
They worship violence.
They say they're anti-fascist.
They should call themselves pro-fascist, because that's exactly what they are.
These are fascists.
They use violence to intimidate people.
In a show I did a couple weeks ago, I was explaining to you all the difference between protected violence and unprotected violence.
And I can't tell you this enough.
This is not in any kind of virtue signaling.
I'm not trying to, you know, play the nice guy when quietly I'm, you know, behind the scenes, sitting there with my, oh gosh, if we can just, if we can, you know, if we could just scheme people into believing otherwise.
That's not the case.
I'm passionately, passionately, Sometimes I hesitate to talk about this stuff because I With all this talk about virtue signaling.
I feel like whatever you say you put yourself in a corner here But this means a lot to me It means a lot to me.
I mean be prepared but these people are I believe in the end if you can hence my you could see my or hear my My hesitation here.
Do what you always do.
Just go with it, bro.
Just do it.
I just feel like I don't want to be your preacher.
That's not my thing.
And I don't come on the air because I'm a sinner too, folks.
I mean, obviously.
And I'm not trying to be.
This isn't like one of those 12-step programs.
But I really believe the morals and ethics of this fight matter.
I believe they do.
Defending yourself makes a difference but being on the right side of this makes a difference because I do believe in the second creation and the power of what you're doing here is your ticket to that.
These people are violent and if they're going to bring violence on us you have to defend yourself of course but engaging in any form of proactive violence on our part is a moral stain on our movement.
But I've said to you repeatedly that they are not ready For what's going to happen to them if they insist on going down this path.
And if you watch the video footage from that Antifa riot in Portland, you'll see exactly what I'm talking about.
There's one specific clip.
Many of you have seen it.
I'll describe it to you for some that haven't.
It was some kind of a rally for a conservative candidate.
And then, of course, Antifa showed up and they want violence because that's what they do.
And they got it.
They started throwing things, throwing bottles.
These Antifa far left radical leftists.
Of course, a fight breaks out, which always happens, because that's what Antifa wants.
There's this one Antifa kid show...
He has an extendable baton.
Some of you have seen these before.
Some of you may not know what they are.
They're short.
They're no longer than the size of, say, two pencils.
And what they do is when you flip them open, they extend outwards.
That's why they're called extendable batons.
Police departments use them.
I never liked these things.
We had them in the Secret Service.
I mean, I probably shouldn't say this.
I didn't even carry mine.
I think they're terrible.
In the police department, yeah.
We had the PR-24s in the NYPD, which was the, it's the nightstick with the handle that shoots off the side.
Oh yeah!
Now those are, as an effective impact weapon, in my opinion, if you know how to use it, are the best impact weapons out there for self-defense.
The PR-24 I was trained on, and you know, unfortunately a lot of people don't know how to use it.
They use it like an axe.
You know what I'm talking about, right?
Where it has a side handle and they use it.
That's not what, you know, you're supposed to do or they forget their training and no one teaches you to do that in the police department.
But if you know how to use it and use that side handle, it is a pretty effective impact weapon to defend yourself with.
The extendable baton, in my opinion, is It's not garbage.
It doesn't have the mass behind it.
Now, I say that because someone must have told this Antifa protester, who's a skinny mini, by the way, that when this fight breaks out, you pull out this extendable baton, Joe, you extend it, and you hit these people, and you're going to do some serious damage.
But again, in the cocoon of protected confrontation, which Antifa and other far-leftists live in, where they can spit on conservatives, run conservatives off the stage, attack conservatives, start fires at conservative events.
This is what they do.
They're typically protected by law enforcement from the consequences of their violent actions.
I don't want to repeat the show I did a couple weeks ago.
You can listen to that show, but I was trying to make the point in that show that there is a substantial difference between cocooned protected violence and unprotected confrontation.
And the difference shows there's no end.
Right.
In protected confrontation, you can punch someone, assault someone, and you know the bouncer in the bar or the cop is going to break it up eventually, and you are protected from the consequences of that.
Right.
Unprotected, unending violence is a completely different thing and is a mentally disturbing experience that when you experience it for the first time, you will never want to experience it again.
There is no tapping out with unprotected violence.
There's no bell that's going to ring for you.
There is no police officer that's going to protect you.
You are going to have to finish that confrontation yourself.
If not, you will be finished.
You will be either hurt seriously or potentially dead.
It is a horrible, horrifying experience we should all avoid.
When you're in it, you'll understand.
I explained to you my story with the police department, with the domestic violence incident, when the guy buckled me in half with an ironing board, started pounding on my face, and you realize, gosh, even though I had been trained in Brazilian jiu-jitsu and a lot of other stuff and been in a lot of scuffles myself, I had never been in a situation where I thought to myself, wow, this could end really badly for me, like dead.
Thankfully my partner was there.
Now, if you watch the video, just put it in Portland, Oregon, Antifa, you'll see what happens with this guy.
He extends his extendable baton.
I'm sure he was told by his protected confrontation Antifa people who've never been in a real fight situation before, you just hit the guy with this and they'll go right down.
Don't you worry.
I don't know if he read that on the label, Joe, or if they saw that in a YouTube video somewhere, but in the real world, that's not quite how it worked out, folks.
Well, what happened in the video?
You didn't see it, right, Joe?
I didn't see it, no.
Skinny mini Antifa clown extends the baton and decides he is going to strike violently a approximately 230 pound six foot two conservative Second Amendment supporter who Ruh-roh!
This did not work out well for him at all.
Watch the video, it's so disturbing.
He hits him on the arm with the extendable baton.
The Antifa guy, I guess, thinks the guy's gonna go down screaming in pain because he saw that in a YouTube video somewhere, or someone told him that in a How to Beat Up Conservatives rally seminar in the safe space in the college he goes to, and the Second Amendment guy does not even flinch.
Matter of fact, It's almost as if he's swatting off a mosquito.
You know, if you've seen the video, you know what I'm talking about.
If not, again, this is the one downside of having an audio-only show.
The one downside, but I hope I'm giving you enough visuals we understand.
He swats it off.
I'm not kidding, like he's swatting away a fly.
There's no like, ooh, there's no wince in pain.
There's no nothing.
And now you see the Antifa guy like, uh-oh, uh-oh.
So he hits him again.
And the second time, he moves even less.
It's almost like he makes no attempt to even block it.
Okay, that didn't hurt the first time, so.
Next thing you know, this all happens quickly.
This is maybe five seconds of footage right here.
The Second Amendment guy closes the gap, which is, he clearly has some kind of hand-to-hand combat experience.
You can tell whether it's stand-up, Thai boxing, I don't know, boxing.
I have no idea what it is, mixed martial arts.
But he closes the gap rather quickly, throws a devastating right cross And again, I'm not... Please, folks, I can't put the caveat in here enough.
I am never a supporter of proactive violence, but this guy's clearly defending himself.
He punches the guy in the face and knocks him out cold.
Cold.
Cold.
Yeah, it's not pretty, but the guy... If you continue to watch the video, you'll see the Antifa protester on the ground.
Watch what happens, and I want to...
I mean, I want to emphasize this because this goes to show you that there are real consequences, again, to unprotected real world violence.
He hits his head.
This is serious stuff.
This guy could have died.
I don't even know what happened to him.
But when you get knocked out or tapped out, as has happened to me many times, you go stiff, really stiff, like your muscles tighten up and you become like a board.
And if you watch them drag the Antifa kid away, I mean, he's knocked out cold, Joe.
He's completely stiff.
He's not limp at all.
And they pick him up and it looks like they're picking up like a sheet of plywood.
He moves as one unit.
I don't know what happened.
He may have broken his jaw, but it's serious stuff.
I mean, it's not a joke.
Right.
And I'm not sitting here like to celebrate any of this.
I'm just telling you people are going to defend themselves.
And as I've warned you, and I'm doing this as a public service announcement to our violent liberal friends again.
To beg you and implore you to not go down this path because you're not at all prepared for the consequences.
This kid walked away like a piece of plywood.
You gotta see them lift him up.
It's sad to watch, but he clearly got in the face and hit the wrong guy.
Don't say I didn't tell ya.
Sadly, you're going to see more of this because liberals just keep going down this violent path.
You know, one more thing on this, too.
We had that awful shooting down by Joe.
Actually, not far from Joe at all.
What was that, about five miles from the house?
Best Gate Road?
No, about a ten-minute drive, something like that.
Yeah, I mean, you've got to go down Route 2 and cross the bridge, and that's the first exit.
That horrible shooting at the Capital Gazette in Maryland, in Annapolis, Maryland.
Five people died.
I know that paper well, the Capital Gazette, very well.
Actually, I know Eric Hartley, who was one of the subject of the maniac, was one of the guys he was going after.
You know, when it comes to that, it's interesting how they tried to pin that immediately on conservatives and what they say attacks on the media.
Folks, nobody's attacking the media.
We're defending ourselves against the media that's attacking us.
And I'm strongly encouraging you all to not accept that de facto narrative.
That is not the narrative.
Nobody's encouraging violence.
What are you, crazy?
Are you nuts?
I just gave this whole thing again.
It's this warning to everyone about this proactive violence, how you're not prepared for the horrible consequences.
But don't accept the narrative at all that somehow attacks on the media.
The media is attacking us and has been for eons.
Republicans are racist and, you know, the istaphobic phobophobes.
You just put an istaphobe at the end of any word.
The media has been compliant in that.
You are perfectly entitled and within your rights in a free country with free assembly and free speech and, thankfully, a free media.
As I said, I strongly defend the media's free speech rights, no question about it.
But the media is also free to be stupid, and they have been.
You are absolutely free and within your rights to defend your character and yourself against the media.
What I find interesting, and the reason I bring this up, is there are almost, there's all these calls from the Democrats now, Joe, we have to dial back attacks on the media.
Keep in mind, there's no talks about the media dialing back attacks on us.
None.
But what's fascinating is the same media people, there are very few calls by media people to dial back the grotesque attacks on Republicans.
None!
You had Jennifer Rubin, who is a total loon.
Jennifer Rubin, she pretends to be a Republican on a weekend news show saying how Sarah Sanders has no right, that's the word she used, no right to live her life, quoting, no fuss, no muss, because she's a representative of the Trump campaign, or the Trump presidency, excuse me.
She has no right?
You have a person who is a talking head and a writer for major papers and major news outlets who claims to be a Republican on television basically telling people to confront people and harass people in public.
There are no calls whatsoever for that to stop.
Yet all of a sudden, because some maniac shoots up the Capital Gazette, Tragically, all of a sudden we're supposed to now allow the media to attack us repeatedly and over and over because we had something to do with this?
Are you insane?
But not only they not call for people, hey guys, maybe it's time to start hitting the Republicans on principle and not make this personal.
There were no calls for that.
They doubled down, Joe.
These people are total hypocrites, ladies and gentlemen.
Do not fall for this narrative gaslighting nonsense.
Remember, tell a lie gaslighting.
Tell a lie.
Tell it over and over.
Tell it confidently and isolate people from the truth and that story will be calcified as the truth even though it's false.
You had nothing to do with this at all.
We are not attacking the media.
The media is attacking us.
We're defending ourselves.
There's a difference.
Nobody had anything to do with this horror.
The shooter did.
And by the way, I've said that over and over about the Bernie Sanders guy who shot up the baseball field in Alexandria and everywhere else.
So don't even think about claiming some, oh, well, you haven't been consistent.
No, we have.
Just listen to the show.
Alright, I got a lot more to get to today.
Sorry, I'm a little fired up this morning.
I got a lot to do.
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By the way, I did get your Sturgeon joke yesterday.
Okay.
I got it.
I thought you did.
Someone emailed, I swear, if I don't get it, Joe's very clever, he's super funny, but if you listen to yesterday's show, Joe, who is the wittiest cat around, because I don't prepare this with him.
Hey Joe, think of a witty line.
He just comes out like he just did.
What?
That's a joke.
And you know what?
That's from Joe being in radio for 700 years.
Where he's had, right?
Isn't it?
You've had a lot of training in live radio trying to be like the foil for radio hosts and trying to be funny.
But I did get his, I promise you, for the guy who emailed me, like, Dan, you missed Joe's joke about Sturgeon.
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Sometimes I just have another story on my mind, or I want to get to the next one, or I don't want to miss something.
And I heard it.
I was just thinking about the next thing to talk about.
So, where else can you do this?
It's only on this show.
But I did get the joke.
Of course, Joe, you're always funny.
It was great.
Let's see.
Where are we going next?
Let's see.
Stop a text.
Tarmac meeting.
Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.
What did I tell you?
What did I tell you about the tarmac meeting?
If you're a listener to the show... I remember.
Yep.
We called it.
I said to you a little while ago that there is no way the infamous Loretta Lynch, former Obama Administration Attorney General, that her meeting with Bill Clinton on the tarmac in Phoenix, Arizona was as random as people wanted you to believe.
Now, I don't know, maybe it was a month ago we talked about it, three weeks ago, I'm not sure.
Just to repeat, now it's coming out.
There are a number of stories out there.
You can read them anywhere.
Washington Examiner, Breitbart, that the meeting between Bill Clinton and the tarmac was not as random as they wanted you to believe.
And I had said to you, you know, I don't even know why I'm bringing this up again.
It sounds like I'm being too self-celebratory, and I'm not.
I just want you to know you're not wasting your time in the show.
That the way the Secret Service detail with former President Bill Clinton works, which he will have for life now, There's always the confliction that happens everywhere.
If there's another security detail at the airport that's armed, even a low-level advance for a former president, which is a pretty low-level advance at that point, they will always ask the airport or someone else, you know, are any other VIPs going to be around here?
Do they have armed details?
Are they going to be anywhere around our protectee?
Loretta Lynch, who was the Attorney General at the time, of course would have an armed detail.
There is no way they didn't know.
Folks, I don't need to say any more than that.
I sincerely doubt they were talking about their grandkids, as Loretta Lynch continues to insist.
But I don't know.
I wasn't there for the conversation.
It would be irresponsible for me to put words in their mouth.
Oh, they were talking about getting rid of the Clinton email investigation.
They may have.
I certainly wouldn't put it past either one of them.
But I can't confirm that for you because I don't have that information.
I'm only here to tell you that the Democrat narrative that this was some random encounter that nobody knew about is nonsense, and now we have some confirmation.
If you read the reports, you'll see that the security details did in fact marry up.
Sometimes you have to toot your own horn.
The president's right.
See, he listens to the show, as we've said repeatedly.
Sometimes you do.
But we did say that that's how it works.
When you do these advances, folks, and you're a Secret Service agent, even for, like I said, a relatively low level detail, one of the things you have to put on a survey is, are there going to be any other armed details, armed security, whatever it may be present?
So it wasn't a mystery to me.
I'm trying to be, you know, again, celebrate myself here.
But you didn't waste your time.
We told you that.
So now it's confirmed.
I don't think anybody else would have thought to tell the listeners that.
I mean, that made perfect sense.
Perfect sense.
We wouldn't have known unless you were an ex-Secret Service or whatever else there was in the government.
You just don't do that.
I remember when we were doing the United Nations visits in New York, when I was in the New York field office and the UN was in town, how many armed security details you think are at the I mean, the whole hotel is armed, but you would have to list it out who was in that hotel.
You know, the president of Iran, the president of the Taoiseach of Ireland, whatever it may be.
You would have to put that down in a form so everybody knew who was there.
It was important for deconfliction.
So I found the story that, oh, it was completely random and nobody knew.
It was bogus, folks.
It was bogus from the start.
So someone clearly knew and passed it to Bill Clinton.
Okay.
Where are we going next with this?
All right.
I have a really, really great article in the show notes today.
I have a couple of good ones.
Today's show notes are pretty good.
Joe, I sent them to you before the show today, by the way, so you should have them in your inboxes.
I was working on them all morning.
I got a lot of feedback yesterday from listeners who I don't know if they were insinuating that I was confused or maybe they're confused.
I'm not really sure where some of them were going with it.
But we did yesterday's show about the dangers of socialism, democratic socialism, because there's no distinction between the two.
And I talked about the political strategy the Democrats are trying to engage in by not denouncing socialism and simultaneously not claiming allegiance to it.
There's a reason for that.
The reason, I only have to repeat this again, not an effort to waste your time, but to set up where the listener feedback It showed me where I may have erred a little bit in my explanation, and I think you mistook that for confusion.
It didn't.
And I'm going to elaborate a little more today, and hopefully this will make some sense.
The Democrats are in a corner right now.
They're in a corner because focus group tested talking points forever on democratic socialism.
Have gaslighted Democrat voters out there and younger millennials and other people that will support the Democrat Party into believing that democratic socialism means free stuff.
That's not what it means.
Socialism is not democratic.
It's never democratic.
Socialism is, in fact, the government confiscation of the means of production.
I said that yesterday.
Now, this is important.
Now, a lot of people email me and say, Dan, I think you got this wrong.
I got four or five, six emails, which on that particular topic is a lot.
And they said, I think you got this whole thing wrong.
That's communism what you're describing.
Socialism, people can vote, but the government can have a degree of control over the means of production.
Communism is the full confiscation of the economic and political system.
Folks, I didn't get it wrong.
I did not get it wrong.
This is my entire life.
This is all I do, is read this stuff.
I enjoy it.
I'm not trying to pretend to be highbrow with you.
I did not get it wrong at all.
I did not miscalculate.
It is that specific miscalculation, I think, on some of the listeners' part that has led to some confusion as well, that there is some kind of notable distinction between socialism and communism, and there isn't.
Here's what I mean.
First, please read the piece at the show notes today.
It's at the top.
It's that important.
It's an older piece from 2015 from the Mises blog.
Named after Von Mises.
And it talks about, it's a short piece, but it talks exactly about this topic.
How there is no difference, ladies and gentlemen, between political and economic freedom.
There is no substantive difference for you.
When one is lost, the other's lost.
They are inextricably connected.
You cannot separate the two.
They are married.
They are married, surgically attached to one another.
The idea that Socialism is an economic system, while communism is a political system, is a distinction liberals want you to believe.
Friedrich Hayek wrote an entire book, The Road to Serfdom.
If you haven't read it, by the way, it's a must-read for any conservative.
It's up there with Vision of the Anointed by Thomas Sowell.
It's one of the greatest books I've ever read.
It is a reason it's been a bestseller for 7,000 years.
Slightly hyperbolic, but you get the point.
Friedrich Hayek in The Road to Serfdom explains this beautifully.
Political freedom and economic freedom are the same.
There's no notable distinction between the two.
So insisting that communism is a political system, while socialism is an economic system, but they both suck away your freedom is a meaningless distinction.
Liberals want you to believe that.
Liberals want you to believe that democratic socialism is somehow different.
It is not.
Now, a line from the piece in the Mises blog, which I hunted down.
I had to go to my Pocket app and scroll down probably 20 or 30 times.
I had saved this thing so long.
There's a cool app called Pocket, and you can save articles that you want to go back to.
I had to scroll down.
It was all the way, all the way at the bottom.
It must have had a thousand articles in there.
Here's a line from the piece.
Economic government interventions are coercive by nature.
Anytime the government intervenes in the economy, the fact that you voted for the people who did it is irrelevant.
You're still not free.
Do you get what I'm saying?
Oh, no, no, it's a politically free system.
We voted for them.
Yeah, but they stole your stuff.
Economic interventions in the market, whatever they may be, ladies and gentlemen, Are by nature coercive, because those economic interventions either stop you from doing something you wanted to do, or they take money from you that you worked for to do something you didn't want to do with the money yourself!
Or else you would have!
Please, please understand this, because I get these emails a lot.
There is no difference between communism and socialism.
That's a liberal talking point.
Liberals want to distinguish between the two, even though they know there's, smart liberals by the way, know there's no difference between the two because communism's scary and socialism sounds like free stuff!
Socialism and communism are both scary because they both lead to death and destruction.
Look at what's happening in Venezuela.
Another article I have in the show notes today from Breitbart.
Where Joe, they are now lining up in Caracas and outside Caracas for clean water.
There's no more clean water.
This is socialism.
It's the same thing.
Communism and socialism.
There's no difference.
Who you vote for doesn't matter if they can coerce you into doing things.
Think about it.
Economic interventions by the government.
One, stop you from doing things.
Joe wants to sell whatever it may be.
Joe wants to sell computers from his house.
The government intervenes.
Joe, you can't do that.
You need a license.
Well, why do I need a license?
I want to sell computers.
I have some leftover computers I refurbished.
What's the problem?
Joe, you've sold too many.
In order to do that, you need a business license.
I don't want to get a business license.
All this has done is reduce Joe's liberty.
That's a small example, by the way.
I'm using small examples because the big examples are even more dramatic.
You will forfeit over $20,000 to $30,000 of your income every single year to pay for health insurance under Obamacare for you and your family.
But I don't want to do that.
You will.
Well, what happens if I don't?
We will penalize you by the government.
What's the difference who you vote for if that law stands?
The political freedom and economic freedom are no different.
You still have no freedom.
You're not free.
What's the difference?
What's the difference?
Economic liberty predates political liberty.
It has to!
Secondly...
Economic interventions by the government involve the forcible taking of your money by the government to spend on things you didn't want to spend the money on yourself.
If you wanted to spend that money on health care, you would have done it.
You wouldn't have needed a government mandate.
You didn't want to.
The government had to force, they have the monopoly on the power of force to take your money and put you in jail.
Economic freedom is political freedom.
Political freedom is economic freedom.
There's no difference between the two.
A socialist system where the government confiscates wealth, confiscates money, confiscates business, tells you no, that you can't do things.
These are inherently coercive systems.
I didn't mean to spend a lot of time on this, but it's important you understand that I don't want you to think you're wasting your time here.
I didn't miss it yesterday.
I was making that point specifically, that these euphemisms for government control of the economy, communism, socialism, democratic socialism, the nanny state, they're all interrelated.
They all mean essentially the same thing.
The taking away of free decisions you would make by yourself by government bureaucrats.
If you would have made the decisions yourself, you don't need the government to order you to do it.
Does that make sense?
Bingo.
You can't have it both ways.
I'm free to spend my money this way.
Well, you better spend your money that way.
Well, you didn't need the government otherwise.
The government's telling you to do it because you didn't want to do it.
Because if you wanted to do it, the government wouldn't have to tell you to do it.
Read the piece.
It's really, really good in the Mises blog.
It's important because I just, I don't want you to get lost.
That's a liberal argument.
No, no, no, Dan.
I mean, when I do it, when I get into socialism fights on Twitter, I get this all the time.
You're an idiot.
You're mistaking communism for socialism.
No, you're an idiot.
It's the same thing.
You don't understand political and economic freedom being married together.
It doesn't matter who you vote for if you're not free to celebrate the fruits of your own labor, to earn private property, and to purchase things by your own free will in a free market.
It doesn't matter.
What does political freedom matter?
I voted for Joe.
I voted for Bobby.
What did they do?
They both stole my stuff.
Oh, okay.
But I'm free.
I'm free.
It's not communism.
I'm free to vote.
Joe, you get it?
Yeah, voting in a new set of thieves.
Voting in a new set of thieves!
Thank you, Producer Joe.
Communism and socialism are the exact same thing.
The diminution of individual freedom.
Political and economic, it's the same thing.
I'm telling you, I get it.
The Twitter thing, it never ends.
Don't buy into that.
Go read Hayek.
You know, maybe one day I'll do a special on that book alone.
There's so many.
That'd be cool.
There's probably 10, 15 major league takeaways from The Road to Serfdom that'll change your life if you've never read the book.
And that's one of them, that there is no substantial difference between political and economic freedom.
When you take away one, you take away the other.
There's no way around it.
Okay, I'm going to read this, and then I want to get rolling about the most important story you're not hearing about.
Again, another major break in the Awan Brothers scandal.
This thing, this story, the House IT scandal, is just a disaster.
And it's only getting worse.
Just, I'm furious the media's not covering this thing.
And I know why, by the way.
It's all related to the DNC hack.
The hack of the service.
It was a hack!
Really?
The FBI checked that out?
No, not yet.
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All right.
This Awan scandal up at the House is getting ugly.
Big time ugly.
Luke Rosiak, who's been all over this thing at the Daily Caller, has a report out.
I put a piece in the Washington Examiner up at the Show Notes today as well.
Joe, we now find out through the House, basically the security folks up in the House, up on Capitol Hill, that Some of you may forget, let me just give you a quick background here.
There was these Pakistani brothers that were hired by Debbie Wasserman Schultz to manage IT systems up in the House.
Now, they gained access to over 40 members of the House.
They're all Democrats.
This is why you're not hearing about the scandal, by the way.
40 Democrats.
They managed to gain access to their email systems.
There were unauthorized entries made into their email systems, somewhere close to 5,000 unauthorized entries, and a lot of this was done through a key server that would have had some kind of remnants of these unauthorized infiltrations into these House members' email systems.
Let me be clear what I'm telling you.
There were some Pakistani brothers with some suspicious connections and some questionable history.
They were not background checked.
Amazingly, they were hired to run the IT systems of select members of the House of Representatives.
They were all Democrats.
One of them was left and is now the Attorney General, Becerra, of California.
They gained unauthorized access to their emails and they have extremely suspicious ties and some questionable backgrounds.
That's enough right there to be like tier one nuclear bombshell right now.
Now we find out, well Luke kind of knew about this, Luke Rosiak's been reporting about this Daily Caller for a while, but now we have confirmed, Joe, that the server that unquestionably would have shown some footprints of these infiltrations where these guys We're reading, potentially reading the emails of these house members and we don't know what they were doing with them or who they were giving them to.
The server that would have shown the electronic footprints of that, this is, Chris' story is amazing.
This is like a spy novel.
There was a server turned over to investigators up in the Capitol.
They turned over a server.
So you see where I'm going with this?
So the investigators up in the capitol who are looking into this case, they look at the server and they check out the back and they're like, hey, there's something interesting about these serial numbers.
This is not the server that was part of this operation.
The unauthorized infiltrations into the house members.
This is a different server.
Folks, somebody swapped out the server up on the hill and gave the investigators, the hill investigators looking into this case, gave them a different server.
Do you believe this story?
Now, I just want to ask questions here, and I'm not doing it to be a wise guy, but Debbie Wasserman Schultz, who is a congresswoman here in Florida, who is awful, by the way, awful, Arrogant, awful, just not a good person.
Debbie Wasserman Schultz was running the DNC right around the time this happened.
These guys had access to Debbie Wasserman Schultz's passwords and her email account.
Remember, it was the DNC hack we discussed during yesterday's show that started this whole Russian collusion case.
When I say the DNC hack, I'm using the dreaded air quotes here for hack because again, for the umpteenth thousandth time, we don't know it was hacked because the DNC never called in the FBI.
They used a private company called CrowdStrike and did not allow the FBI in.
Why would you do that?
Why would you keep the FBI out if you're so sure the Russians hacked the DNC?
Maybe, kind of, sorta, you may have something to hide.
Don't you find it a little odd that these Pakistani brothers with these questionable ties that were never background checked That these same guys may have had access to DNC equipment Debbie Wasserman Schultz, who they were working for, had on her team and we know they had access to her passwords.
Folks.
This is the biggest scandal you are not hearing about in the media.
They swapped out the server.
What are they hiding?
What are they hiding on that server?
Where is the server?
The server they turned over is not the server, is not the one that has the footprints from the actual intrusions into the email system.
This case gets more suspicious by the day.
Read the piece in the Examiner.
It's short.
It links to Luke Rosiak's piece in there, too.
Check them both out.
Luke has been all over this.
And you'll see, this is the one case the media, for some bizarre reason, I have my suspicions, keeps silencing and keeps trying to brush under the rug, folks.
Deeply, deeply disturbing stuff.
Okay, a couple more things I want to get through.
Last night, if you watched Ingram, I was on Laura Ingraham last night, the Ingraham angle on Fox.
Joe was there.
Joe goes to sleep at six o'clock.
Yeah.
Because Joe's got a lot going on.
I debated Chris Han, and I know Chris, you know, he's alright.
He's a Democrat, liberal, but sometimes he says things, and I got just set off last night.
I just, I really did.
I was very upset last night.
Just so you guys understand, too, just how Fox works.
I have a studio in my house.
It's the same studio I record this from.
There's a black box camera that sits in front of me and you stare into it.
There's no one else here.
I close my office door.
It's just me.
It's me.
Well, the camera guy comes in here too, but even that's going to change soon.
But it's just me.
There's no staff.
There's no, you know, there's some lights that blare in your face, but...
That wasn't an act last night.
Some of you saw it.
I think sometimes people who know me, you know, because I do these appearances on Fox and some of them are, you know, little milquetoast and some of them you get riled up.
But it's never, ever an act.
Chris said something last night that set me off and it's really starting to bother me.
And anytime you hear it from your liberal friends, you need to cut that off immediately.
Chris last night, talking about the Russia investigation, brought up this line again that's driving me crazy.
This liberal line, because now they're not finding anything on Russian collusion, Joe.
It's now been two years and they're starting to find out quickly that this is a huge dud, that there's no there there.
So the liberal lie now is, well, if Trump has nothing to worry about, then why complain about the investigation?
Folks, I lost it on this guy because I am so tired of hearing this.
That is not how our justice system works.
That's not how it works.
The justice system doesn't work that way.
You are innocent until proven guilty, not guilty until proven innocent.
Please understand.
I brought up this point last night.
I wasn't trying to be dramatic.
When you have the awesome power to take someone's freedom and liberty, sanctioned by the government, because they have a monopoly on force, like I did, as a police officer and as a federal agent, and many people have, it wasn't something like, I wasn't knighted, no one put the sword on my shoulder, Dan Bongino, you now have the power to take liberty.
It's just when you become a federal agent, that's what happens.
You have the power to take someone's liberty.
Ladies and gentlemen, It is a frightening power.
If you have a heart, it is.
I can't say this enough.
And the fact that liberals now want to unleash that power on potentially innocent people and their justification for doing it is, well, those innocent people have nothing to worry about if they didn't do anything wrong, is ridiculous.
This is ridiculous.
What are you, tyrants?
What is wrong with you people?
This is mob rule?
Folks, when I was an agent, right?
I was involved in, I don't know, 20 arrests, if not more.
You know, federal cases aren't like local crimes.
They take a long time.
It's not like the NYPD where you can make two, three arrests a night if it's a busy night.
That's not the way it works.
When you're a federal agent, you have to methodically build up a case, you have to go swear to warrants, you have to go get grand jury subpoenas.
By the time you make the arrest, it could be six months, it could be a year, it could be longer.
But I was involved in a lot of these.
And a lot of these people were really, really bad people.
But I know the guy's name.
I remember it like it was yesterday.
I will never forget an early morning raid we did on a guy's house.
We had an arrest warrant, search warrant.
It was in Nassau County.
And I was there with the local police were with us.
And you know, you want to hit early because you want to make sure they're home.
And the guy had kids and he was a bad guy.
But ladies and gentlemen, I'm telling you, when you take out those handcuffs and you look into their eyes and they realize their life is over, that you just shut them down completely.
I knew what the guy had done.
He was a really bad guy.
And you may look at me differently because of it, that's fine.
But I don't consider it weakness at all.
I really felt bad for this guy.
I didn't regret what I was doing.
I knew we were stopping him.
And I knew he had to pay for it.
But gosh, the guy had kids, man.
His kids were crying.
The wife was crying.
And he was wrong.
I knew this was the guy.
This wasn't one of those cases where it was even close.
We were beyond probable cause at that point, believe me.
But it hurt a little bit.
It did.
And again, I'm sorry if some of you may have a skewed image of Of me from seeing some of my fiery appearances, but it did.
It was, I thought about it for days, if not weeks.
The guy's kids, what were they going to think?
What were the kids going to remember me and be like, that was the guy who ruined my dad's life.
I just, I couldn't get it out of my head watching the wife and the wife and the tears and the husband.
And he was a bad guy.
Folks, it is an awesome power.
I don't mean awesome in a qualitatively good way.
I'm talking about powers of magnitude here.
It's scary.
Now imagine that story I just told you.
That happened.
It wasn't exaggeration for effect.
Imagine doing that to someone.
Who wasn't really a bad guy, who may have made some bad life mistakes, but his prosecution by the federal government system is certainly not some kind of a national priority.
Imagine, even worse, finding those handcuffs on yourself and you did nothing wrong.
Put yourself in that position.
Five o'clock in the morning, there's a knock at your door.
Secret Service, open up.
You open the door.
Sir, put your hands behind your back.
I have to get dressed.
Sir, we didn't ask you to get dressed.
Put your hands behind your back.
Put your hands behind you.
The handcuffs go on.
You haven't even brushed your teeth.
You're sitting there, half naked.
Sir, we're gonna search the house.
Is anybody else here?
Yeah, my wife and kids.
We're gonna go wake them up.
Stand right here.
Can you imagine that?
Kids are crying.
Wife's crying.
Got the kids.
You gotta get... No, you guys all have to go up front.
I'm sorry.
Come on, kids.
Wife's half-dressed.
Imagine you did nothing wrong.
Neighbors are coming over.
Ma'am, excuse me, can you stay outside?
I'm sorry, we have a search warrant here.
A search warrant?
For who?
Joey?
Yeah, Joey.
Yeah, what did he do?
Ma'am, we can't talk about that.
Whole neighborhood's out there.
News crew shows up.
Imagine you did nothing wrong.
Now do you understand why I am so bothered by this Trump case?
Folks, this terrifies me because it's clear that people like Chris do not understand that.
And he came back with some, you know what, he's not here to defend himself, so I'm trying to be somewhat fair, but he came back with an absurd comment.
Oh, I'm a lawyer.
I understand how it works.
You don't understand how it works.
You have never, ever looked a guy in the eye while slapping handcuffs on him and watches the tears flowing down from his wife's face and his kids coming out of the room, crying, hugging their stuffed animals because they're so terrified.
You've never seen that.
You've never seen that at all.
Don't tell me you're a lawyer, you get it?
You get them in court later on when everything's sterile.
It's a terrifying power.
That's why I'm begging the liberals who listen to my show, regardless of your feelings for Donald Trump or the team or elsewhere, to constantly defend and stand up for government, for Stand up against government abuses like this.
There's no crime here.
There is no crime of collusion.
We opened an open ended investigation against an American citizen, Donald Trump and his team, for a crime that no one can even prove happened.
This is the danger of this.
Oh, if you didn't do anything wrong.
Nonsense, folks.
I'm sorry.
It is complete, utter nonsense.
And until you've looked someone in the eye and watched that happen...
It changed your whole life, and I'm not talking about for the better.
I know some of you may think, you know, you watch Starsky and Hutch once or twice, and you know, or Hawaii Five-0, book them, you know, and you get them at the end and everything ends well.
That's not how the real world works, man.
All right?
That's not how it works.
Granted, you go get a serial killer or a child molester, yeah, that probably feels pretty good to get them off the street.
You know, I don't think a lot of people are going to have any reservations about that.
But when you get a guy for a financial crime who was desperate, who stole money from people, he did wrong.
The right thing to do is get him off the street.
But Joe, I'm not going to sit here and lie to you and play tough guy.
Yeah, I didn't lose an ounce of sleep over it because I'm a real badass.
No, that's not the way it works in the real world.
Real people have real feelings.
And you know, any sense of empathy, when you see that, some kid crying about his dad, you know, it hurts.
That's why, by the way, real world experience matters.
That's why I'm having increasingly... Joe and I have had this conversation often, by the way, kind of off the air, but I'm not trying to toot our own horn here about how, you know, the show's so good, but Joe's been around, believe me, like a lot, like around a long time.
I'm not even going to go into the details, but Joe knows hard knocks as good as anyone.
Sometimes super hard knocks.
He knows financial troubles.
He knows real world troubles.
So do I.
I've had real jobs in the real world where we've seen real pain and real people and real anguish.
And I have a hard time listening to a lot of these shows anymore.
That's why I've kind of tuned a lot of them out.
Where people talk about things so authoritatively who have had zero experience in the actual real world.
You know where I'm going with that.
I'm just, I'm really, I'm sorry, but I'm kind of done with it.
Go out there and put handcuffs on somebody and watch what happens in the real world.
The real pain in people's eyes.
The loss of freedom, what it's like to actually take someone's freedom away.
And then go be a liberal talk show host, talk about how great the Trump investigation is.
I think you'd have a different take on it.
All right, one final story we'll run for the day.
I appreciate you bearing with me on that.
I don't mean, this isn't one of those bear my soul days.
Which just bothered me last night.
And why do you think I was, you know, acting for TV?
I wasn't.
I was perfectly calm and sedated going out of the air.
Sedated.
Like someone gave me a tranquilizer dart before the show.
But it just annoyed me when he said that because that's how tyranny starts.
There's a great article in the show notes by Kurt Schlichter.
I think it's Schlichter.
Is it Schlichter or Schlichter?
I don't even know.
But there's a good article up.
It's up at Town Hall.
It's up at the show notes today about just the continued humiliation of the Never Trump movement on this second Supreme Court nomination.
I can really do the piece no justice.
You'll have to read it, but I can sum it up in a minute and a half or less.
Guys, ladies, the Never Trump thing.
It's over.
It's over.
You've been utterly, completely humiliating.
I'm sorry.
It's not shouting fraud.
I'm not trying to rub anything in.
Again, I endorsed Cruz.
I was the Donald Trump supporter after the primary, but I was a Cruz guy.
And I still like Ted Cruz a lot.
I have a lot of respect for him.
But it's now clear the tax cuts, the deregulatory push, The Supreme Court, of course, is always going to be a couple things we disagree with.
I know a lot of disputes about tariffs.
You know my stance on that if you're a regular listener.
But with this second Supreme Court nomination, I think it's time the Never Trump movement wrap it up.
Fellas, you pretty much lost.
You've been utterly, completely humiliated.
You are on the wrong side of history.
You do not believe in facts.
You do not believe in data.
And Schlichter just destroys them in this piece in town hall.
It is an evisceration like I've never seen before.
But it's really time for the Bill Crystals and the George Wills of the world.
Guys, yeah, do your thing.
Free country.
Support your right to speak out freely.
But you're just making yourself look like idiots now, okay?
Especially if we get a good, solid conservative.
Another one on the Supreme Court.
And potentially another one after this, too.
Imagine who Hillary Clinton would have appointed.
Your Second Amendment rights, your right to your money, your Obamacare, your right to your health care freedom, all of that would have been in jeopardy.
Wrap it up, guys, wrap it up.
Alright, thanks a lot, folks.
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