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Jan. 31, 2018 - The Dan Bongino Show
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Ep. 645 Why The Democrats Are so Angry Today

Interesting highlights of Trump’s speech last night. More terrific economic news for Trump. This piece debunks Democrats’ lies about the Russia investigation. Liberals are panicking and are now talking about a second Trump “dossier.”   Copyright CRTV. All rights reserved. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Get ready to hear the truth about America on a show that's not immune to the facts with your host, Dan Bongino.
All right, welcome to the Dan Bongino Show.
Producer Joe, how are you today?
I'm doing good, man.
What a day yesterday.
Oh my gosh, I know.
Me and Joe have been very busy running into each other face to face.
Finally, the dream team, the Wonder Twins activated.
Back in DC.
But we've pretty much Joe, wouldn't you say, been at it for about 48 hours straight now.
Everywhere I'm looking, there you are.
I mean, all over Washington, and I was over there working with CR Group.
So, man, what a day.
I've slept like four hours, folks.
I'm not even kidding.
But I'm not making this up.
I said once for you new listeners that I was at a CPAC speech once and Ann Coulter was very sick and she opened up the speech by saying she was sick and I said, you know, I shouldn't have done that because I felt bad for her the whole time and I was distracted.
I always promised if I was ever not, you know, into it or didn't, I would never do the show.
So if I'm here, I'm pretty stoked about doing it.
And after last night's speech, there's just so much to talk about.
Some breaking news again, I think, on this speech, not just the speech, but on the Trump investigation too.
Joe, there's apparently a second dossier.
So now the first crappy dossier wasn't enough.
So now we need a second crappy dossier, just in case the first crappy dossier falls apart.
Talking about your Wonder Twins.
Oh my God, the Wonder Twins of crappy dossiers.
So I got to get to that.
I got a few other things.
I got a really good source that's communicated some quality information to me as well.
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Okay, regarding last night's speech first, I want to hit just a couple points before I move on to some other stuff.
So, I thought one of the more telling moments of the night, folks, and it shows where the Democrat Party is, and I don't want you to ever forget this, is the portion of the speech where Trump mentioned that Americans are dreamers too.
Now, it's interesting because I've kind of hammered this point on my Twitter often.
About the language Democrats use to win the arguments in advance.
When we start referring to people, Joe, as dreamers who are here illegally, you've automatically ceded the moral high ground in the state.
I mean, Joe, think about it, right?
Who wants to deport a dreamer, right?
You don't want to deport a dreamer.
They're dreaming.
They're dreaming of things.
Dreaming is good.
Folks, the Democrats own the messaging game for the longest time.
Now, I've mentioned this theory before, but I'm going to tell you why.
Why they own the messaging game, that is.
Someone said this to me a long time ago, and I never forgot it because they were absolutely right.
They said, here's the problem with it, and you've heard this before, Joe, I see you nodding your head.
The Republican Party, the donor base, a lot of the people who contribute to the party and guide where the party's gonna go, a lot of high-end activists and people like that, people who want to point the principal ideological direction of the party in this direction, right?
They are and have been traditionally, you know, natural resources folks, the petroleum industry, commodities folks, right?
People who are in commoditized fields where marketing doesn't matter much.
I promise this will make sense in a second, okay?
Don't lose me on this.
The people who guide the Republican Party and support it are generally people in commodities-type fields.
Marketing is not a big portion of their business.
I mean, Joe, if you're selling gasoline, it's like, well, you know, what is marketing?
It's like, buy my gasoline.
It smells like real gasoline.
There's really nothing to say.
It sells itself.
It's a commoditized product, right?
The Democrats' activist donor base, that's not the case.
You have tech people, you have like the Apple Google crowd.
These people, their entire lives are marketing.
These are people who go out there and they have to make like, you know, the iPhone sexy and, you know, Beats headphones and all of that stuff.
They have to, and marketing is their thing.
They can sell ice to an Eskimo, right?
As they say.
That is what they do.
The Democrats have owned us on messaging.
We finally have a president, based on that State of the Union last night, finally, who has figured out that the problem with the Republican Party is not the message, it's the messaging.
What he said last night, a couple of those lines.
And granted, I don't want to be hyperbolic or exaggerate.
The State of the Union, he'll get a small bump out of it and, you know, a week later people will forget.
But it's the accumulation over time of collective small bumps which lead to an overall bump in presidential approval which leads to re-election.
So I don't want to downplay it either.
But he said a couple things, Joe, last night.
You and I were there at CRTV doing the coverage there.
And he brought up that line that Americans are dreamers, too.
And I thought, yes, finally a president who senses a weak spot with the Democrats.
Folks, the Democrats have TDS so bad.
Trump derangement syndrome so bad.
They are so emotionally invested in hating the president that the Democrats forgot what I just told you.
It has been, and wouldn't you agree, Joe, it has been their superiority in learning messaging, not the message, it's different, that has constantly enabled them to beat us back and beat us back despite having superior party platforms.
Now we got a president who seized on the moment.
The Democrats, what do the Democrats call a show where deplorables, we didn't build that, American exceptionalism is no different than Greek exceptionalism, as Obama alluded to that time in the speech, and Americans were like, wait, what?
This is crazy.
Now all of a sudden you have a president up there that sees this weak spot and boom!
You right cross left talk right away Americans are dreamers to bank Powerful moment in the speech a couple other quick things on it You're gonna see a lot of coverage And I you know you'll have talk radio on all day And I think one of the things show I do different as we try to focus on some people aren't talking about So I want to waste your time But there were a couple other standout parts one of them was the Congressional Black Caucus, and I brought this up on Fox last night Congressional Black Caucus, which is really all Democrats man I Did you find that a little odd, Joe, that Trump gets up there, he starts touting the lowest black unemployment rate in decades.
I'm not going to say this because of the way they measure it over time and underemployment, but we can confidently say, you and I, Joe, that black unemployment, the black unemployment rate is very, very low right now.
In other words, the economy is doing quite well for black America.
Trump starts talking about that.
This is, wouldn't you agree, Joe, a nonpartisan success story?
I would certainly hope so.
You're damn right you would hope so.
And you would hope wrong because of course the Democrats, you know, screwed us over again.
What do they do?
The Congressional Black Caucus sits on their hands.
They don't even get up to clap.
And folks, again, this is the Democrat Party falling apart because they are obsessed with Trump derangement syndrome.
Rather than giving him Just a small victory and a small moment for him, a non-partisan moment for everybody to say, okay, you know what?
There have been some issues in all communities, but the black community unemployment remains stubbornly high under the Obama administration.
Now we can get up and clap.
It's not really a Trump thing.
It's our thing, right?
I mean, this is them talking.
They didn't even do that.
Sat on their hands the whole time.
What a disgrace.
A total disgrace, folks.
So I have a really interesting article in the show notes today at Bongino.com.
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Sorry to hound you about it, but it really helps us get the message out.
But a really good piece from the Daily Signal that covers some of the other highlights of the speech.
But I'll leave you with this.
I thought it was a great speech.
I thought it was aspirational.
I thought the part about annihilating terrorists was terrific.
We're not sending them to sandals anymore.
We're not sending them to the Poconos.
We're not sending them to a Hawaiian beach.
Yes, we're killing terrorists who want to kill us.
That's how people talk.
And one more thing, and I'm sorry, I have so much to say this morning.
I'm just trying to motor through these topics because I want to make sure I get you the good stuff.
Last night, while on a panel, I was trying to explain the Trump phenomenon and why Trump, despite not having the most polished or eloquent speeches, Joe, why what he says resonates so many millions of people.
And I brought up the fact that there were two things about Trump's personality that I think I understand, not uniquely, but Because I grew up under similar circumstances.
Obviously, I'm not a billionaire like he is, but Trump is a Queens guy, Joe.
I'm from Queens, New York.
And the thing about Queens, New York, guys, this explains a lot about Trump.
Don't forget this, folks, ever.
When you grow up in Queens, everybody has a chip on their shoulder.
Everyone.
In Queens.
And there's a reason.
I don't say it in a bad way.
I was a Queens kid.
Because the Brooklyn kids and the Bronx kids are the tough guys.
They are.
It's tattooed on you.
You're from Brooklyn, you must be tough.
You're from Brooklyn.
That's just the way it is.
You're from Brooklyn, you are automatically soon to be tough.
The Queens kids never had that built-in edge.
So they were always like, you know, you always want to have a chip on your shoulder.
You must want to start a fight show with a Brooklyn guy just to show him you're tough too.
I mean, maybe that's why I do martial arts and mixed martial arts and grappling and boxing.
I don't know.
But that's Queens, right?
Not only that, they don't have the...
The money or prestige of the Manhattan kids.
So it's on one end, you're not as tough and edgy and streetwise, or this is his perception, by the way, I'm not talking about reality, but you're not as tough and edgy and streetwise as the Brooklyn kids, but you're never going to get the social acceptance of the wealthy elites like the Manhattan kids do.
So there's an edge on both sides.
And you see these Queens kids always having to prove themselves.
And that's one of the reasons, and folks, I'm not covering for anybody.
I'm certainly not trying to Provide messaging air cover for Trump here.
I'm just trying to explain to you why he talks and does the things he does, but I totally get it.
This is Queens guys because of that edge and the need to always kind of impress people because they've always, you know, not as tough as a Brooklyn kids or as rich as a Manhattan kids show.
They all talk like he does.
We exaggerate stuff.
I was giving an example the other day.
When I was growing up, I used to go in this bagel store that was next door to my house, and the bagels were really good.
And I remember chatting with the guy one day, and you'll tell a story about the guy who owned a bagel store, this guy Cosmo, and you'd be like, man, Cosmo!
Cosmo's rich, he's worth like $40 million.
Meanwhile, the guy's worth like $400,000, but everybody gets it.
Now, right, Joe, you're laughing, but Joe's an honest guy, you know, Joe's a church-going guy.
To Joe, that's a lie.
Right, Joe?
You said he's worth $40 million.
But to a Queens guy, it's not, because the Queens guys understand that there's always a built-in level of ten times exaggeration.
So it's not a lie to the Queens guy, because the Queens guy who's talking to the Queens guy understands that $400 million or $40 million really means $400,000.
You get what I'm saying?
You see where I'm going with that, right?
Yeah.
Yeah, that's a Queens thing, okay?
Now, that explains away the exaggeration portion of Trump.
That's just how guys talk.
but the builder portion of him and why he's got this bravado.
And the reason I'm even mentioning this is because a lot of that came out in the
speech last night, like a big aspirational speech.
Like we're going to chest puff a little bit. We're going to kill terrorists,
Americans are dreamers. This is great. But he was a builder too.
And the thing about builders in New York is my father was a building inspector
and he, he's dealt with people like Trump his entire life.
When you're a builder in New York, you have to deal with things.
builders elsewhere don't have to deal with to the degree you have to in New York.
You have to deal with unions, Joe.
You have to deal with the mob.
You have to deal with city inspectors all the time.
You have to deal with inflated contractor prices.
So when you're a builder in New York, you have to be tough.
And Gavin McGinnis brought this up in the panel last night off the air, and it was a great point.
He said that some elitist Republican one time told him that he didn't like Trump because Trump wasn't a handshake guy.
I don't know if you heard this, Joe, in the control room, but it was an excellent point Gavin brought up.
The guy who told Gavin this meant like if Trump shook hands on a deal that sometimes he goes, the guy told Gavin like sometimes he would stiff contractors.
But Gavin was like, he goes, you know what, if I was smarter at the time and I knew what I knew now, I would have responded.
He goes, but I didn't.
And he wasn't stiffing contractors.
The difference in New York doing business, if you understand builders in New York, is Joe, you'll get a bill from a contractor.
They'll say, hey, this service is $100.
Meanwhile, 50 of its fluff built in, and then at the end of the contract, they'll be like, oh, by the way, price change, it's now 200.
So Trump would come back to the table, being the Queens builder he was, and be like, no, no, we said 100, we're paying 100.
Well, did he really get stiffed?
Or was it Trump doing business in New York and trying to maintain some integrity for his business?
Folks, I'm not apologizing for the guy.
I'm just telling you, I'm trying to explain away why you get this exaggerated language, and why you get this tough, kind of edgy talk when he doesn't deal with people, because that's what he's had to do his whole life, and I think that came out last night in the State of the Union.
So, a lot of it was aspirational, as with most State of the Unions.
You know, not much of it's probably likely to happen, but I thought it was a good speech nonetheless.
All right, I got a lot more to get to.
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Okay, so This is where it gets interesting.
I didn't tell you this yesterday because we were over at CRTV I didn't want to talk in front of too many people there, but there's a second dossier has come out from a guy named Cody Shearer folks the first dossier as you know in the case and I explained to you was is an is an integral part of the part of the Trump Russia fiasco because what's Alleged to have happened with the dossier is we the Hillary Clinton campaign paid a law firm, to pay a company, to pay a British spy, a former British spy, to pay people connected with Russian intelligence to gather bad information on Trump.
The takeaway from that?
Very simply, the Hillary team sent money to an operation that got information from Russian intelligence on Trump.
Folks, I just want to be clear on this.
Because sometimes we have to rewind the tape a little bit.
That is not illegal.
Opposition research on political candidates, however untoward and disgusting at times, is not illegal.
I'm not alleging Hillary did anything wrong with that.
What was wrong about the dossier, which, just to be clear what that was, for those of you who may have missed the beginning of the story, The dossier was a compilation of these lurid, sordid, nonsensical, farcical, ridiculous tales about Donald Trump that Russian intel provided to Hillary.
It was fake.
It's been debunked.
It's not true.
These tales were so ridiculous that how anybody believed them in the first place is incredible.
The problem with the dossier is elements of it were used by federal agents to apply for an application to spy on Donald Trump.
Don't ever forget that, because remember, as I always say, 30,000 feet.
Remember what we're talking about, because people get lost in this case sometimes.
We are talking about Donald Trump and his team being spied on, being spied on by Barack Obama and his, not personally, but his administration, and the effort to cover the whole thing up.
Okay?
Don't ever forget that's what we're talking about.
Now, the first dossier, which I just described to you, Joe, has been entirely debunked, right?
There's now been the reappearance of a second dossier and you have to ask yourself, why?
Why is a second dossier appearing now?
Now, this second dossier was not Like, drawn up by the same people who did the first dossier, Fusion GPS and Christopher Steele.
The second dossier was done by a guy named Cody Shearer, who's a political operative of the highest order, right?
Folks, I'm going to suggest to you, because I've got a lot to get to on this and some really damning stuff, that the emergence of this second dossier is Democrats in full, full-blown panic mode right now.
Now, Joe, you may be asking yourself, well, why?
I don't get where you're going with this.
Remember what I told you.
Initially, when CNN had an inkling that the dossier of CNN and the left-leaning media outlets and Democrats in Congress had an inkling that some of this may be true, And they thought they'd get rid of Trump and impeach him anyway, so it really didn't matter if it wasn't.
Like, if I had information on Joe and his jaywalking scandal, right?
And I think it may or may not be true, but I think we're going to impeach Joe as president anyway.
I just feed that stuff to sources in the media, have them put it out there, and who cares?
If we find out it's not true in two years, Joe's impeached.
It doesn't matter.
Where the story got thrown for a loop is Donald Trump passed the tax cuts, his approval rating is bumped, now the Democrats are saying he's not going to be impeached, so now they're in a lot of trouble because they fed to the media and the FBI had used some elements of this dossier in an actual legal proceeding to spy on the Trump team and now they're realizing they're going to have to deal with it because Trump's not going anywhere.
You see where I'm going with this?
So the dossier, the authenticity of it didn't matter because they thought they'd be rid of Trump right now.
Is this making sense?
Perfect.
They figured they'd be done with them.
Whether it was fake or not, folks, didn't matter one bit.
The emergence of this second dossier says to me, these dudes and ladies in the Democrat Party are in meltdown mode.
Because now they need to rescue elements of the dossier, because when the memo comes out, the Devin Nunes memo, that describes what we've been told, describes the spying operation by the Trump team, and I'm sure it's going to at some point talk about the process where the dossier was used, the Democrats are going to have to save face.
Why?
Because they're going to have to say at some point to the American public, Well, you know, we used this dossier and here's why.
So now they need to redeem it, Joe.
Now they need to redeem it.
Now they're gonna say, oh look, see, we thought the dossier was real because there's a second one, too, that says the same, even though the second one is just as big a BS as the first one.
Folks, you see where I'm going with this?
They didn't care about the authenticity first.
They thought they'd be rid of Trump.
Now that they know they're gonna have to deal with him and that this memo's gonna be released describing what they did in your name, the spying on Donald Trump, with no probable cause, They are going to have to answer to this.
And to answer it, they're going to start producing all kinds of nonsensical information, like, oh, well look, there was a second dossier, too.
It doesn't matter, Joe.
Joe, if I say Joe Armacost has red hair, and I produce a dossier that says it, and then I produce a second dossier that says Joe has red hair, Joe does not have red hair.
He has Elvis hair.
It's black.
Joe has Elvis's.
Elvis, the spirit of Elvis lives in Joe, okay?
He doesn't have red hair.
I can produce a hundred dossiers.
It doesn't make a difference.
It is not going to change Joe's hair.
They are trying desperately now to save face because a couple people sent this to me on email yesterday.
I appreciate the correspondence as always.
And they said, Dan, can you look into this?
What's the second dossier?
Like this thing just came out now?
The answer is no.
It didn't.
That second dossier has been around forever.
Well, it's been around since the spying started, largely.
But they're putting it out there now because, make no mistake what I'm telling you, they didn't care about the authenticity of the dossier before.
They just wanted to damage Trump and the media with disordered nonsense, false accusations in that paperwork.
Now that they realize their spying is going to be exposed, they're going to do everything in their power to have to explain away why.
And one of their explanations, Joe, is going to be, well, we got a second one too, so of course it was just logical that we believed it.
Now.
I spoke with an interesting person yesterday.
I gotta tell you, having an audience, thanks to you, by the way, exclusively, as large as we've been fortunate enough to have, people reach out and once, you know, you establish their bona fides, the information, yeah, I didn't tell you this.
So I got a call yesterday and someone said to me, listen, here's what's interesting about the dossier too.
He said, there is a, Asset verification process Joe that they go through so Let's not talk law enforcement jargon here for a minute if I'm gonna use you as a source Joe You know the words you let's say you're dealing with some guy And and he's shady and he starts talking about robbing a bank and you go to the FBI and you say hey guys I you know I was talking to my neighbor Bob and he's talking about robbing a bank and you want to be a source and
In order to verify you as a source, Joe, or what we would call as an asset, as a law enforcement asset, your information, there's two things that have to happen.
Folks, don't forget this because it'll make this whole Trump thing make sense for you when it comes to the dossier.
There are two things you have to do before doing this, Joe.
Swear into it.
I'm raising my right hand for Joe here.
If I put my right hand up in court as a federal agent, I swear to a search warrant and arrest warrant, I am swearing that the information I have in there is true.
Or that I've done my homework to make sure it's true.
The homework, you have two avenues.
Joe comes in.
He says, my neighbor wants to rob a bank.
I want to talk.
I want to help you guys out.
I have to verify the information independently of Joe.
I can't just walk into court the next day and say, hey, Joe told me his neighbor's going to rob a bank and we get a search warrant.
The judge would laugh you out of there.
So what I can do is I can go do surveillance, physical surveillance.
If Joe says, hey, my neighbor's going to rob a bank, I can say, hey guys, let's go get a surveillance team.
Let's get in the van and let's look at Joe's neighbor, right?
Not really difficult stuff.
What else can we do?
We can pull some bank records.
We can subpoena some, you know, some what we used to call muds and luds back in the days, right?
Some phone records.
We can do an independent investigation that verifies what Joe said is true and then, Joe, then we go to court and we swear to it and we say we can validate the asset.
Joe is an asset.
I get a call yesterday That guy says, listen, there's a pretty formal procedure to verify assets in the FBI.
And he says, the one question you're not asking, which we may have, but we may not have asked it the right way.
Is what was the asset verification procedure for Steele?
In other words, Christopher Steele's the guy who puts together, the Democrats are saying at least, I believe he may be a pawn in this too, but Christopher Steele puts together these salacious allegations against Donald Trump in the original dossier, Joe, the one swore to in court.
He said, what was the asset verification process?
Is there paperwork on it?
How did the FBI verify the asset?
And I thought, gosh, that's a beautiful question.
Who did it?
Who said this guy's information is legit and here's why?
And he said, when you find out, How the mechanics of that asset verification process were walked through.
He said, I think you're gonna find some very disturbing things.
In other words, show that red flags were everywhere along the way that this guy's information were garbage.
I mean, you know, I'm having this conversation last night and it was great because the source was right about the whole thing.
He goes, listen, if somebody called you tomorrow and said like, hey, Trump's a space alien and I'm a source for it, you'd be like, that's just stupid information.
But Joe, some of the information in the dossier was so ridiculous and absurd, it should have immediately raised red flags.
The golden showers story, folks, come on.
I mean, it was just dumb.
It was just a stupid story that shouldn't have made sense on its face.
But he said the fact that they didn't pick this up, and not only did they not pick up that the stories were ridiculous, that they did almost nothing.
To ensure that the assets other information were verified as well or almost nothing according to formal procedures He said it's gonna leave a big black hole in this investigation folks What I'm telling you is very important, and I'm trying not to keep it to law enforcement wonky But the reason all of this is important is because it goes back to what I've told you from episode 628 on.
This was an effort from the beginning to set up and spy on the Trump team.
They did not let legal formalities, the Constitution, rules or procedures get in the way.
Do you understand what I'm telling you?
This was like Cuba police state style tactics taken against Donald Trump at that time an American citizen and presidential candidate.
The Constitution didn't apply to him.
Folks, they spied on his team with no probable cause.
They used information from assets and sources that they never verified, and they never verified the sources either.
Remember, the only thing in the original dossier anybody can prove even happened was that Carter Page traveled to Moscow.
That's it.
I traveled to Moscow.
What the hell does that mean?
Folks, this is the most troubling case of law enforcement corruption I have ever seen in my life.
Deeply disturbing on so many levels.
Now, A couple other things that were brought up to me, and I hope someone's listening with some influence here, because I know some people pay attention, let's just say, to our show.
I know, because I hear it.
I'm like, did you hear that on my show?
No, no, I didn't hear that on my show.
You sure?
Because that's the only place I said it.
I'll talk about that some other time.
It's interesting, though.
I'll tell you offline.
Another interesting component of this, the central figures in this, Andrew McCabe, the number two, who's now going to step down after five weeks.
Someone brought up something to me that was fascinating.
And if you are a former agent out there and you know something about this, I would love to do some verification myself.
So let me know.
You know where to find me.
I was told that Jim Comey was a part-time FBI director, Joe, which is an interesting point.
That Comey rarely worked on Mondays or Fridays.
That Comey worked basically three or four days a week and would head up to a different place.
I'm not going to say where, but the information seemed pretty legitimate to me, especially the way it was presented to me.
Now, why is that relevant to any of this?
Yeah, yeah, right.
It's relevant to this case because the number two with the FBI the entire time is Andrew McCabe, who is a central figure in all of this, whose wife is running as a Democrat for State Senate in Virginia, and is taking money from Clinton consiglieres.
Lots of money.
Matter of fact, she took about, I think it was $700,000 for a State Senate race that, as Joe and I know politics pretty well at the local level, probably would have cost, what, $50,000, Joe?
Yeah.
So there's a reason a lot of Terry McAuliffe, who's a Clinton acolyte, Terry McCall of Money is heading to Mandy McCabe's wife.
I bring that up in relationship to Comey and his, you know, part-time director status because one of the things that came up that was fascinating was, who do you think was really running the FBI when Jim Comey wasn't around?
Andrew McCabe!
You're darn right, brother.
Andrew McCabe, the number two.
The deuce there, right?
So, Andy McCabe's influence as a number two may have been as kind of a two pseudo number one, you know?
Like, he's really in control when Comey's not around.
It's a very interesting point when you put together the chronology of events that a guy whose wife is a devout Democrat, running as a Democrat, taking extraordinary sums of money for her campaign from Clinton acolytes, is at the same time insisting on not recusing himself from the Clinton email investigation and is also then targeting Donald Trump in an investigation to spy on Donald Trump with no probable cause to do so.
Folks, again, What I'm trying to paint a picture for you here over these episodes is how not just
Not solely was the Constitution thrown out the window, and Donald Trump's rights as an American citizen to have his papers searched and seized, his communications searched and seized by the government, not only was that violated, but rules and procedures were violated as well.
And they were violated by people who had a political, if not ideological, interest in taking down Donald Trump and protecting Hillary Clinton.
Now, It's all gonna flow here.
Another thing that came up in the conversation is, remember I told you about Mike Flynn, how Mike Flynn was railroaded?
Mike Flynn, General Mike Flynn was railroaded.
They showed up at the White House, two agents, Peter Stroke and another agent.
They showed up at the White House to interview him and didn't tell him it was a criminal interview.
What they told Mike Flynn when they showed up at the White House, he was under the assumption from what I've got from very good sourcing that it was some kind of a national security meeting, Joe.
Not surprising at all because Flynn was the acting national security advisor at the time.
And he's communicated with these people before, at the upper ranks of the FBI.
It's not unusual.
They show up to the White House, and Flynn has no lawyer, nothing, and right away they start talking about a conversation Flynn had with the Russian ambassador, Sergey Kislyak, before Trump had taken office.
Folks, there's nothing unusual about that at all.
He was the incoming National Security Advisor.
But they want to pitch this Logan Act thing, where private citizens can't negotiate on behalf of the government.
As I've said before, I'm not going to repeat the show.
The Logan Act is not a serious thing, okay?
No one has ever been prosecuted for it in the history of the United States.
John Kerry was just negotiating with the Palestinians.
Why isn't he in jail?
The answer is because the Logan Act isn't even constitutional.
Nobody gets prosecuted for the Logan Act, but they decided they were going to get Flynn.
So Peter Stroke shows up at the White House with this other agent and they interview Flynn.
This is important.
It's going to tie into McCabe in a second.
They show up at the White House and the other agent in the room He goes back after the interview, and they talk to who, Joe?
They talk to Andy McCabe, who I just told you is de facto running this entire thing right now, okay?
They talk to McCabe and the other agent in the room, which is Stroke.
Now, Stroke's compromised, we know that from his texts.
I don't mean compromised by the Russians, I mean ideologically compromised.
His texts to his love interest, who also works at the FBI.
Indicate clearly he hates Donald Trump.
He can't stand them and he just doesn't want him to be president.
So stroke the emails are devastating Stroke is involved in the whole thing stroke and the the other agent who interviews Flynn go back and they meet with McCabe They tell McCabe in the office, the other agent in the room, thinks that Flynn was honest and open and sees no problem with the interview at all.
It's Stroke and McCabe who override this guy's opinion and decide to go forward with a prosecution on false statements, ladies and gentlemen.
Why am I telling you this?
Because to anybody listening out there, I'm just asking you to do the right thing.
I know who that other agent is.
I'm not going to say his name, but I know some of you do too.
When I say you, you know who I'm talking about.
Why isn't he up on Capitol Hill?
You know, he's... subpoena him.
You need to talk to him.
Somebody needs to figure out why two FBI agents, Joe, walked into the White House to interview the National Security Advisor and came out with entirely disparate opinions about what happened in that interview.
Now, let me ask you a question, Joe.
Yes, sir.
One agent comes out.
One agent says, we thought he was open and honest.
We didn't really see a problem with the interview.
The other agent, who is a known Trump hater, who has been involved in covering for Hillary the entire time, his texts expose him as being ideologically corrupted in this, he then gives an alternate opinion.
Who do you trust?
The guy who said nothing really happened there, or the guy who said, oh, Mike Flynn, we gotta go get him?
I'll go with Mr. Nothing Really Happened.
You'll go with Mr. Nothing Really Happened, because you're a smart guy.
You'd be a great FBI agent.
Now, what I found interesting, Joe, is Andy McCabe, the number two, instead of doing the responsible thing, And finding a way to arbitrate between these two and come to some middle ground, well hey, why are you saying the interview was fine and you saying that, you know, the interview was terrible and we gotta move forward?
That's not what happened.
McCabe moves forward with this prosecution of Mike Flynn for false statements to the FBI.
Folks, I'm telling you, this thing stinks.
So I'm asking anyone with any influence on The Hill or anyone else listening, go find that guy.
You know who he is.
Issue him a subpoena.
Subpoena ad testificatum to come and testify.
Bring him up in front of a closed committee or whatever it may be.
And I want you to ask him what was said in that room.
And I want you to ask him why he was overridden, why he thinks he was overridden and why he thinks Mike Flynn was being honest in that interview.
And I think you're going to find again, some deeply disturbing police state tactics used again.
Folks, this story gets worse and worse and worse.
I've got some more on this because this is, people are calling left and right.
I have a different source on another piece of information on that too, but I'm trying to give you all investigative tips out there because You know, Judy, Donna, and all you folks who are emailing me and I appreciate it.
Joe, what we're developing is a network of like super sleuths combing the internet for information.
I'm giving you all some tips here where to go with this.
I got some more in a second.
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Why didn't they bury this story?
Oh, this is, yeah, this is a doozy.
So I get a, dude, people still say doozy other than me.
One of the things about Andrew McCabe, I was told, which is interesting.
Remember, Andrew McCabe, again, is the number two who, at the FBI, who is You know, for some intents and purposes, running the FBI at times.
I mean, that's what the number two does.
So when the number one is out of commission, from what I've been told, the number one, Comey at this point, is out of commission a lot.
I'm hearing from a number of people that Comey's hubris brought him down in this.
Now, I want to be clear on this.
I, because I had a little bit of an argument over the phone last night, and I think this is critical, especially for a lot of people following this case intimately who want to be kind of pointed in the right direction or the wrong direction.
This happens to me a lot.
Sometimes I'll say stuff and they'll be like, you're kind of onto it, but not, and the source will go, go in this direction more.
One of the things I was told last night, Joe, which is pretty fascinating, this is how I know we're on to something, when Joe starts like paying attention to the bike, because I don't tell Joe this before, because that's how I know if it's interesting or not.
I'm not even kidding, folks.
They told me something about Comey, which was fascinating.
They said, for a really smart guy, Joe, he's really arrogant.
Like, he really loved being the FBI director because of the accoutrements of the office.
He loved it.
He loved being the pats on the back.
He's the FBI director, love people kissing his butt.
I believe it, yeah.
Yeah, you see, he comes off that way, too.
Yes.
And the source was telling me that he thinks that plays a big role in this because Comey He doesn't.
I don't know if I believe this, but the source doesn't think that Comey even had an active role in the targeting of Trump.
In other words, for Comey, it may not have been as much malicious.
Don't get me wrong.
Comey doesn't like Trump.
And again, I'm giving you his perspective, not mine.
So folks, please don't send me emails.
Comey's a bad guy.
I get it.
I'm with you.
I'm just giving you an alternate perspective from someone I trust who Gave me some pretty profound and interesting information.
This is a different person, by the way.
He said, he said to me about Comey that he was being guided the entire time by McCabe and Bill Preistep, who's the number one in counterintel.
In other words, on this Trump thing, Joe, and the Hillary thing, that he really was, not that he wasn't hands-on, he was, but it was his sense of... I'm not explaining this well, and I don't like doing that to my audience.
The person I spoke to, I got the impression, was trying to defend Comey a little bit.
Like, oh, it wasn't really his fault.
It was McCabe, it was Preistep, it was Stroke.
They were guiding Comey in a direction, and they were kind of hiding a lot of what was going on, facts-wise, from him in an effort to drive a narrative to Comey, too, and Comey was kind of a sucker.
And I don't accept that, and let me just explain why.
Comey comes off to me As a very non-humble, arrogant person.
And folks, I think it was the hubris that he failed to question his upper management, his brass, his suits at the FBI who were coming to him out of a sense of, Joe, like, in other words, maybe a better way to explain this, I can't be, I'm Jim Comey, no one's gonna lie to me, like, I can't be deceived by my guys.
That's narcissism, dude.
100%.
He just, he could not, Engage in a moment of self-reflection where he said to himself like I'm looking at you now.
He looks at a mirror goes wait Is any of this actually true?
Trump's colluding with the Russians his dossier.
He's doing golden showers I think it's his hubris that brought him down and everyone else now the reason I bring this up again And I I'm doing this linearly going down my notes here, okay?
Is again the point keeps coming up that the person, the primary conduit to feed this information to Comey, that he's not questioning out of a sense of hubris, like nobody would dare lie to me, I'm Jim Comey.
The person who's feeding him all this, Joe, is Andrew McCabe.
Again, the number two.
A central figure in this entire investigation.
But it was Comey's hubris that failed to protect him against the fact that his number two may have been misleading him.
Now, that bothers me because people are now trying to run, and like Eric Holder, the former Attorney General, they're trying to defend the Crown and defend McCabe when I think it's clear at this point that McCabe definitely screwed something up here.
So, just to be clear where I'm going with this entire thing.
McCabe is the number two.
At times, he is the de facto number one based on Comey's loose work schedule.
It is McCabe who agrees with Stroke after Flynn is interviewed at the White House to override and pull rank on the other FBI agent in the room interviewing Flynn who believes Flynn essentially did nothing wrong.
It is also McCabe who decides to proceed With the Trump investigation, and he's also feeding information, you know, of course, to Comey, who's making decisions based on what he's getting from McCabe.
McCabe is a central figure in all of this, folks, and McCabe's wife is running as a Democrat, supported basically by, at some point, people who are supporters of Bill Clinton for a lot of money.
They send a lot of money his way.
Now, one other point about McCabe, and this is a Hint hint.
Like kind of winking a nod, Joe, to anyone who's listening.
Supposedly McCabe was a, um, how do we describe him?
A briefer?
You know what a briefer is, Joe?
It's like, it's one of those cops or agents that's really not a cop.
They're just like a suit.
Like they've never actually arrested anyone.
You know what I'm talking about?
I didn't know.
I didn't know before, but now I do.
The FBI is full of them.
I know FBI agents.
I've worked with them.
They're amazing.
They are.
They're really terrific.
I'm not saying that to get a pat on the back.
They're really terrific.
They're super smart and they know their stuff.
But there's a cultural divide in the FBI, just like in the Secret Service.
In the Secret Service, there's a big divide between the protection guys and the crim guys, the criminal guys.
There is.
It's like the protections where you earn your reputation in the Secret Service.
I'm sorry, if you don't do the President's detail, you're just looked at different in the Secret Service.
The Bureau kind of has a similar culture.
There are the street guys that caught bank robbers, Joe, child molesters, you know, financial scam artists, the street guys who are out there doing it.
And then there's the suits, the briefers, the guys who do good briefs and they get in front, they do PowerPoints, but they've never really arrested someone.
The word about McCabe I'm getting from multiple sources is that McCabe was a briefer.
He was a gamer.
He leveraged connections and the ability to look the part, act the part, talk the part to promote himself up into the FBI and get the number two position.
He also leveraged his connections the entire time.
This may work against him in this case, but here's the wink and the nod and here's why.
Because from what I'm hearing, There were some, let's say, communications, potentially, with McCabe after hours, that he would, and I'm not alleging any, if this isn't like a, one of those sexual infidelity, I'm not sure what I'm talking about, I'm talking about, because that sounded kind of weird, after hours, but after work hours, there were some communications that were likely there,
with McCabe about the progress of these investigations into Hillary's email or Trump and the status of those investigations and some of it may have been on phones where those texts are easily recoverable.
Now, why do I bring that up in terms of the briefing thing?
Folks, I gotta tell you everything.
You gotta have the entire scope of the story so you understand what's going on.
McCabe didn't want to be left out of anything, because remember what I told you about Comey?
Comey's kind of like a part-time director here.
He's more interested in giving the speeches than actually getting down and dirty.
McCabe's the one briefing him.
McCabe doesn't want to be left out of the loop.
McCabe's weapon is information, Joe.
And he needs that information at all times, because if he doesn't have the information, someone beats him into the director's office to brief the director, then McCabe's not a briefer anymore.
He's useless.
The point of that is, after hours, there was some monitoring of the stuff that was going on.
And from what I'm hearing, there may be some texts and emails there about statuses of the investigation and decisions that were made that could be as damning, if not more damning, than the Peter Stroke, Lisa Page emails.
Yeah, I got that.
I said, are you sure?
And the source was like, I'm pretty sure.
So someone's listening.
You may want to check out those texts if you don't have them already.
So we'll see what happened with that.
All right.
One final story.
Hey, Molly Hemingway, who really writes some Spectacular pieces at the Federalist.
This will be in the show notes today.
Please read it.
It is one of those debunking pieces, which you know I love, because the Democrats lie about a lot of stuff, and it's relatively easy to shoot down their arguments.
She wrote a really short but great piece at the Federalist.
Be in the show notes today at Bongino.com, or if you join my email list, we'll send it right to you, about Democrat lies, basically Adam Schiff lies about this memo and this process, because I'm getting a lot of questions about this.
People are saying, Dan, my lefty friends told me that this memo that's gonna describe the spying on Trump, it was written by Republicans.
So what?
What does that matter?
So who cares?
Obamacare was written by Democrats.
The memo describes a process, folks.
Facts are facts.
If the memo says an apple's an apple, it doesn't matter if it was written by a Republican or a Democrat.
Do you understand?
Joe, you see where I'm going with this?
The memo is not a political document.
It's not a piece of legislation.
It is a very simple description of events that actually happen that point to a pattern of spying behavior on the Trump team by the Obama team.
Joe, either those events happened or they didn't.
Folks, do you understand?
It doesn't matter that it was written by a Republican.
If a Republican writes, you know, the North won the Civil War, and a Democrat writes another opposing document, it doesn't matter what the North won.
That's just a fact.
Who cares who wrote it?
It's a Republican document.
It is a non-partisan document.
That is totally, completely nonsensical.
Okay?
So, some quick debunking on this.
One of the points they're trying to make is that there's, the Democrats that is, and Mollye Hemingway does a great job at debunking is, listen, there's national security information in this memo.
We can't release the national security information.
It's going to damage national security.
Which is absolutely fascinating, Joe, because Mollye brings up a terrific point.
The Democrats are now issuing another memo.
Wait, hold on.
Time out.
Red flag here.
Let's go under the hood.
So let me get this straight.
You don't want to release the memo describing the process by which Obama and the Obama administration spied on the Trump team because you're alleging it's going to violate national security while you release another subsequent memo to ensure that what?
If people didn't get the national security stuff in the first memo, the second memo will make sure they really see that?
National security stuff?
Folks, there's nothing in the memo that is going to violate national security guidelines, policies, or procedures.
The Republicans aren't stupid.
They're not going to say, hey, we have a CIA asset in Russia by the name of Joey Bagadonets and he gave us this information.
By the way, Russians, please don't kill him after we release this memo.
Don't be an idiot.
The Democrats are releasing their own memo.
If there's national security information in the case in the memo, why are you releasing your own?
Right.
A simple question.
I mean, Joe, does that make sense?
Yeah.
Great point by Molly, by the way.
It's in the piece.
You'll see she always rocks.
I love Molly when she's on Fox.
She's the best.
She's one of my favorites.
She is an Amazon superwoman.
She just crushes it.
She's got the best Twitter thing ever.
It says on her Twitter something like, I won't be bullied into your group thing, but thank you.
Have a nice day.
I'm like, this is the greatest Twitter line ever.
So.
Another thing we're hearing too is the Democrats wrote their own memo and there was a vote taken about the memo and the Democrats are coming out going, look, the Republicans who are in the majority in the House, we get that, the Republicans voted to release their own memo and now they're voting to keep ours quiet.
Folks, again, that is a lie.
Listen to me.
Very little of what Democrats ever tell you has even the remotest air of authenticity to it.
I spend my entire life debunking liberal myths.
Most of what they tell you is a lie.
This is a lie, too.
The Republicans did not vote to suppress the Democrat memo, folks.
Okay?
That's garbage.
Here's what actually happened.
And again, Mollye describes this in her piece.
The Republicans released their memo through a procedure first.
The procedure was to release the memo to the members of Congress so they could read it first before they took a vote on releasing it to the public.
Why?
Because, Joe, if any member of Congress had a substantive objection, they could potentially rewrite it.
They could look into things.
If there was some national security things disclosed they missed, they could take that out.
Makes sense, right, Joe?
Right, yeah.
They said to the Democrats, if you're going to release your own memo, we're going to subject it to the same process.
That's the vote that was taken, which the Democrats said, no, no, we want to release it on our own.
And they're the ones who objected, not the Republicans.
It's a lie.
It's made up.
It was about, do you understand what I'm saying, Joe?
It was not a vote ever to release the Democrat memo.
It was a vote on the process, which the Democrats didn't like and the Democrats squashed.
Right.
Adam Schiff said it is a bunch of crap.
Yeah.
And everything Adam Schiff says is crap.
And he does it, he so eloquently, you know, speaks out his crap that people believe him.
I mean, he's a believable liar, which is always dangerous.
Oh, what else?
Oh, there's another myth about this is that They didn't notify the minority party of these investigations going on into the DOJ and the FBI.
In other words, the memo that describes Joe, a procedure and a process by which they looked into the DOJ and the FBI, the Democrats are saying, well, you know, you didn't tell us that there was an investigation into the FBI going on.
Really?
Joe, back in March, Devin Nunes gave a press conference at the White House about disturbing things he saw.
I mean, are you the only idiots in America who didn't know there was an investigation going on by the OIG into what happened with the FBI during the Hillary Clinton email thing?
Like, are you lost?
Are you clueless?
Are you insane?
Again, this is a total lie.
You don't even have to be a member of Congress.
You just have to turn on the news.
It's just complete nonsense and garbage.
Finally, again, one quick thing I just wanted to debunk again is this partisan document thing.
It is not a partisan document.
It is a Republican written document that describes things that actually happened.
And one of the things the Democrats are going to hide behind, because they're devious, Joe, it's important, they're going to say, well, if you're alleging that, say, the Obama administration on this date did this thing, Joe, and they spied on the Trump team using these methods on this date, the Democrats are going to say, that's a lie, release the source documents on that.
Well, Joe, the Democrats know.
They know you can't release the source documents.
Why?
Because the source documents would describe sources and methods and would release national security information.
And the Democrats, in a dipsy-doo-flipper-oo, know the Republicans will never vote on that because they don't want to compromise CIA spies, NSA methods, or anything like that.
But this is the devious Democrats, aren't they?
They're amazing.
They are the biggest, worst, manipulative liars you've ever seen.
They're going to say, I don't believe any of that.
Obama didn't do that.
Republicans, if you don't release the source documents on that, none of that happened.
You're just making it up, knowing the Republicans will never do that.
This is the crap.
I was going to say something else, which is bad.
This is the crap we have to deal with all the time with these people.
Folks, they're maniacs.
I'm telling you, they are absolute maniacs.
These people are so entirely corrupted.
It's pathetic.
But read the Molly Hemingway piece.
I'll put it in the show notes.
Hey, one other great piece I have in the show notes today.
It's a good one sent over by a listener.
Thank you very much.
From Investors Business Daily.
We'll leave you on a good note.
Folks, wages are rising again.
48% of small businesses say they're thinking about giving significant raises and bumps.
The economy's coming back.
Wages are going up.
They were stagnant in the Obama years.
Read the piece.
It's a short one, but it talks about the survey data out there.
I think the economy next year is going to rock and roll.
I think we're in a really great place.
So, and I think those midterms are going to be a little rougher for Democrats than they expected.
So, give the piece a read.
It'll be at the show notes today.
It's really quick, but it's a good one, too.
Hey, thanks again, folks, for tuning in.
I appreciate it, and I will see you all tomorrow.
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