Why are the Democrats rehabilitating the discredited Russian dossier? Here’s a theory.
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How big of a role did the dossier play in the spying scandal?
Here’s a FISA court document exposing the misuse of raw intelligence information by the FBI and NSA. Pay attention to pages 20 and 83.
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Get ready to hear the truth about America on a show that's not immune to the facts with your host, Dan Bongino.
All right, welcome to the Dan Bongino Show.
Producer Joe, how are you today?
Great to be here, man.
The numbers, I know, the numbers have been insane.
Thank you so much, folks.
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So thanks a lot.
All right, I got a lot to get to today.
I'm hoping to get to some other topics as well.
There was a lot going on in the news.
I had a sideline due to this pressing urgency, this fiasco being exposed about the spying on the Trump team.
I have a few more points on that, too, and some unanswered questions and some emails here.
Hey, I don't usually do shout outs, by the way, on the show, Joe, but shout out, I got an email and it was, I've seen these guys before, shout out to the The Donald group on Reddit, they asked me for a shout out, so once in a while we'll do it.
So there you go, guys.
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Okay, Joe!
Yes?
A lot going on and, um, where do we go?
We start with unanswered questions.
Let's do this first.
Kim Strassel has a wonderful piece in the Wall Street Journal today.
I will put in the show notes at Bongino.com.
Join my email list.
I'll email it right to you.
It may be subscriber only in the journal.
Some of the pieces are, some aren't, but give it a look regardless.
I'll stick it in there.
The dossier rehab has begun, and she has a really fascinating theory, and that's going to play into the second portion of this, which is the unanswered questions left from the spying scandal on the Trump team.
Now, where we were, if you listen to the shows during the week, we've exposed a couple things.
We've exposed that there's now no doubt anymore that the Obama team was spying on the Trump team.
There is also no doubt that some people on the Obama team have denied that.
Susan Rice being one of them, she has since recanted about unmasking.
Jim Clapper has now stated on tape, if you've heard the last few shows, who was Obama's Director of National Intelligence, that he has no information about a FISA board.
So the question is, again, the Obama team is spying on the Trump team.
We now know that.
How are they doing it?
And why are certain Obama officials first lying about it, and then some denying it altogether, at least through a warrant?
Why are they doing that?
Now, we're going to answer those in a second, but Strassel's piece is important, Joe.
This is critical, because she says something I hadn't previously considered, and one quick thing on this too, folks.
I'm getting a lot of information from a lot of different people, and I've gotten some emails, Joe, from some people who have information saying, hey, why didn't you cite this guy or cite that guy?
Folks, when I get information, Joe, have we not been clear about where it came from?
The problem is, sometimes I get information, like a letter I got, and you know who sent it, you were listening to the show, that's why you sent it.
from people that other people may have reported elsewhere, and that's why I didn't cite it.
You get what I'm saying?
Like, why didn't you cite Joe Armacost?
He said that first on Twitter.
I don't know, I didn't read Joe Armacost's thing on Twitter.
I got it in a letter in the mail.
So my apology, I'm not stealing anybody's work, folks, okay?
I have a lot of sources on this, and that's why I've reported this story the way I have.
We've given credit and link to everybody's stuff when appropriate, I promise you.
So please, with the emails, I got a few of them that were like nasty, like they think we're stealing people's stuff.
There are multiple sources out there giving us stuff, okay?
This is important.
I got tipped off to something a couple days ago and then this Dossal piece kind of, excuse me, Strossel piece, maybe put two and two together on this.
So the dossiers come back now and they're trying to rehab the dossier, the Democrats, and here's why.
Here's what's going on.
When I say rehab the dossier, Joe, remember just a few weeks ago we saw that New York Times piece come out saying, oh, No, no, no.
Don't pay any attention to the Trump dossier as used for a template to get a FISA warrant.
It was just a Papadopoulos thing that did it.
That started this investigation.
It wasn't the dossier.
Don't worry.
It was this Papadopoulos thing.
Now, the FBI just recently, folks, was threatened with a contempt of Congress citation, Joe, and had to produce documents they've been delaying producing for a really long time.
Now, all of a sudden, the Democrats, they leak the testimony by Glenn Simpson, the Fusion GP, the producers of the dossier, right?
In conjunction with Christopher Steele.
They leak his testimony.
Remember Dianne Feinstein?
And I said to you that they were leaking the testimony, the Democrats, because they're trying to give everybody else that's going to testify in front of Congress and potentially the FBI, a script to follow so they don't get into a false statement charge.
Make sense?
So, a second part of this as well, though, is the Democrats must have seen something, folks.
This is critical.
The Democrats on that committee who have seen the documents, to be clear what I'm talking about, produced by the FBI that were just produced, Joe, about this whole thing surrounding Trump, must have seen something that bothered them so much that they're realizing at this point That even though this dossier started the Trump investigation narrative, even though it really stinks to high heaven, that that's the best they've got.
What did they see is the question.
That's what I'm going to get to in a second.
What did the Democrats in Congress, who've now been exposed, Joe, to almost the entirety of the FBI's background on this Trump spying case, what did they see that so scared them that they are now back to square one, the dossier did it, even knowing the dossier is complete, utter crap?
You see where I'm going with this?
They're now back to this narrative that we need to defend the dossier.
Now, Stossel's saying in her piece, to link back to that, I know, folks, I know this gets a little confusing, but this is like the greatest spy novel ever, except that it's actually real.
Stossel's saying, in addition to my theory on this that they released Glenn Simpson's testimony as a script for every other bad actor in this so they don't get busted for false statements right?
Yeah.
Stossel's theory Joe is that they're also doing it because things Simpson said in his testimony make him look like kind of a white knight in this like oh i was just doing this because i was afraid yeah okay trump could be blackmailed i think i said bribery in a prior i did mean blackmail thank you to people email me trump could be blackmailed and meanwhile it's nonsense information you saw the example i used last time if i know joe has nothing to do with international terrorism and i go hey joe i'm gonna
Threaten to go to the police if you don't give me $5,000 and I'm going to expose your links to international terror.
Joe's going to flip me the middle finger and go, I don't know.
I don't care.
Go to the police.
Yeah, exactly.
He just did.
I don't care because I have no links to international terror.
So that's a nonsense narrative.
Right.
But she's saying that there were things he said in the testimony, Joe, that make the dossier the only palatable option right now for the Democrats to stand on, no matter how bad it is, because They're hiding something else.
Now.
And what I mean by that, by the only palatable narrative, is Simpson does say some things in there where he says, Joe, you know, well, we did it because we were worried about blackmail for Trump.
You know, we did it because, you know, Christopher Steele had these good contacts and he's a MI6 agent, a former MI6 agent, and he knows good intel when he sees it.
But then any critical questions he has to answer, he, you know, basically says, I'm not answering that question.
So the Democrats probably said, well, if we got to rely on this crap dossier right now to hide the other stuff, let's release the transcript to Simpson where he mildly defends it because this is the best we have.
Does that make sense?
Yeah.
OK, now, what are they hiding by going back to narrative number one that CNN exposed in the reporting year ago?
The dossier that started this, the dossier, the dossier.
This is where it gets tough, and I'm just asking a question here, folks.
I'm not trying to be silly with you.
I'm asking a question.
I'm not making an assertion.
There's a big difference.
The question here, and I wrote this down to be clear, because I don't want to screw this up on you, is were Trump team members, American citizens, surveilled, trying to make this as simple as possible, their email and phone records, without a warrant, And why?
Now, there are some outlets out there, some people who have done some really good reporting that are making some leaps of faith on this I'm not comfortable with.
That's fine for them to do.
I have no problem.
That's their own thing.
They have their own content and some of it's very, very good.
I'm not yet comfortable making the leap that the NSA, FBI database was being used to read Trump phone and emails.
Without a warrant.
I'm not comfortable saying that yet.
Now!
I am comfortable saying that there's a whole lot of evidence right now, circumstantial albeit, that that may be the case and that might be what they're hiding, the Democrats.
Now, you see what I'm saying Joe?
Let's go back to the dossier.
The dossier did it narrative because if we admit the real narrative that the NSA and FBI were spying on Trump's phone and email records without a warrant and they're American citizens, oh my gosh are we in a whole world of trouble.
You get what I'm saying?
So let's just stick with this crap dossier thing even though we know it's crap.
Make sense?
Now, you may say, Dan, where's your circumstantial evidence at best that they were doing this?
Because I know I'm trying to play a seesaw here.
I'm throwing a question out to you.
Were their phone and email records spied on?
I'm telling you I'm not willing to entirely make that leap yet, and I don't have solid sourcing on it, but I am telling you there's a lot of evidence that this stuff may have happened.
Here's the evidence.
Today's show notes, in addition to the Strassel piece, Joseph, I'm going to put a piece by an interview with Sarah Carter from Circa.
She's at sarahcarter.com now, but she was at Circa back then.
It's a piece from early September of around 2016, when this thing was all breaking news.
I'm going to give you a quote from the piece, and this should make the hair on the back of your neck stand up.
She says in this piece at Circa, And she talks about a FISA court, a FISA intelligence surveillance court.
document that was put out exposing some problems they had with searches.
I'll put that in the show notes too, but I'll get to that in a second.
She says, for instance, a ruling declassified this month by the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court chronicles nearly 10 pages listing hundreds of violations of FBI's privacy protecting minimization rules that occurred on Comey's watch.
Now, what are minimization rules?
Just to be clear, minimization in a criminal case, when I was a federal agent, is if you have a wiretap going on, Joe, and I'm wiretapping you for terrorism, and you start talking about your laundry tomorrow, I have to turn it off.
I can't listen to that.
I can only, that's called minimizing how I'm exposing myself as a federal agent to your conversations.
I do not know that.
That's what minimization is.
You're going to hear minimization referred to often.
On the FISA side, minimization takes on an entirely new context.
FISA, the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, allows U.S.
government entities to spy on foreigners on foreign soil.
Once an American is involved, Joe, there are minimization rules to say, time out!
Stop!
There's an American citizen here.
There's a different procedure.
It's not just open season.
Now Trump is an American citizen and so is his team.
So if they were caught up in this, it has to be a timeout.
So now, I'll read that.
Now that you understand what minimization is, I'm going to keep reading and now some of this will make sense as to why the hair on the back of a lot of people's neck is standing up.
The behavior the FBI admitted to a FISA judge just last month.
Ranged from illegally sharing raw intelligence with unauthorized third parties to accessing intercepted attorney-client privilege communications without proper oversight that the bureau promised was in place years ago.
The court also opined aloud that it fears the violations are more extensive than already disclosed.
What?
Yeah, baby.
I read through this entire 99-page document from the FISA Court.
It will be in the show notes.
Folks, pay particular attention to page 20 and particular attention to page 83.
Page 20 is where they talk about on this disclosure that she's referencing in a piece done last year, which says to me Sarah Carter knows something.
Page 20 hits the fact that basically the FBI was spying on Americans.
Now, to be clear, the judge does say in many of these cases it looks like an innocent mistake, which I believe him when they walk through the way it works and multiple communication transactions.
In other words, the fact that Americans may have been caught up in a web of email chains and it may have been a human error in not minimizing that because maybe they didn't see it.
Joe, let me be clear on this.
He doesn't say they're all human error.
I got that too.
Which means if it's not an error, it was done intentionally, right?
What is it?
The, uh, absence of, uh, of evidence, the evidence, evidence of absence doesn't mean the absence of evidence or something like that, or something.
I always screw that one up, but it's a good one.
It's from the Black Swan, Joe's favorite book.
Um, all right, here's another piece from the, from the circa piece.
The most serious, they're talking about the most serious problems with this querying of this stuff, involve the NSA searching for American data.
It was forbidden to search, but the FBI, pay close attention here, Joe, The FBI was also forced to admit its agents and analysts shared espionage data with prohibited third parties.
Oh boy.
Ranging from a federal contractor to a private entity that did not have the legal right to see the intelligence.
Now, this is where this next part, folks, I hate reading from these things, but this is critical you understand where we are.
Backtracking a bit.
Strossel writes today that the reason Democrats exposed the Simpson Fusion GPS testimony about the dossier, I told you why I think it happened to avoid a false statement charge, she's saying that it may be because they're covering up something else that's even worse and now they have to rely on the least of the worst stories which is the dossier did it even though it's crap.
I'm telling you step two That I think what this is are 702 violations which which is the FISA Act provision that allows the FBI and NSA to basically spy and tap into phone and email metadata.
I think what that could be potentially is the looking into of information on the Trump team and what it may be is the sharing of it with a third party Who that third party is, that private contractor, I'm not willing to say, although I think given the Simpson testimony, a lot of people are making that leap, which would be staggering.
Now, let me read this last paragraph for you, because remember, sarikcirca.com had this piece up last summer.
This is an old piece, this is a new show.
But is this a hint?
I mean, I'm legitimately asking, is this a hint?
She says, such third-party sharing.
In other words, spying on Americans, using the FBI, and giving it to a third party, right?
Such third party sharing is a huge political concern now as Congress and intelligence community leaders try to stop the flow of classified information to parties that could illegally disclose or misuse it.
Such as the recent link that disclosed intercepted communications between the Russian ambassador and Trump's first national security advisor, Mike Flynn.
Whoa.
Now, she doesn't say they're in the peace, to be clear.
We don't do conspiracy theories here, and I'm going to get to that in a second too.
But is that a hint?
Does she know something?
Why would she make that connection there without making the connection?
Such as she uses that.
I don't know.
I know Sarah from Fox, but I don't know her personally.
I haven't asked her.
I know some people are making that connection out there.
It's all about available on the internet.
I'm not comfortable because I don't have solid sourcing on it to make that leap, Joe.
I'm just telling you, if what is being connected here is true, That means the FBI, that would mean, the FBI and the NSA tapped into the metadata beta, meta, meta, meta, blah, blah, blah.
Metadata beta beta.
Metadata database.
Yeah, that's good.
The metadata database, they tapped into that to get emails on the Trump and potentially phone transcripts of the Trump team, that's what this would mean, and then potentially gave it to a third party.
Now, you may say to yourself, Well, Dan, that's just reporting from Sarah Carter.
I'm going to put in the show notes a document link to the April 26, 2017, 99 page foreign intelligence, it's not hard to read by the way, foreign intelligence, I told you what pages, 20 and 83, but I'm going to put the 99 pager in the show notes for you to look at yourself and pay attention to page 20 and to page 83, where it says in the court's own documents, Joe, The court's own review of what happened, that that's what happened.
Not that it was shared by Fusion GPS, but that it was shared with a third party.
This is not speculation.
The speculative portion is the leap that, was it Fusion GPS that was getting information, raw intelligence information, wiretapped basically information from the FBI.
Is that insane?
Yeah, it's creeping me out, man.
It should freak you out, man, or creep you out.
I know I sound a little punch drunk today, folks.
I have had the craziest four days ever.
I just got home and I am, I promise I am like totally in the mood.
I love doing the show, but I have been just beaten to snot the last few days between media stuff and the podcast exploding and inquiries.
Everybody wants to talk about it now.
I sat in a room with four people, I'm not going to say who yesterday, and laid out this scandal from start to finish.
They were blown, blown away, blown away.
Now what's interesting, just before I answer some other... So just to be clear on this, but let me rewind the tape a little bit.
I said to you I was going to address unanswered questions.
The first thing I address is the rehabilitation of the Trump dossier by the Democrats.
And again, I'm doing this slow, folks, so everybody gets it.
They are rehabbing it.
The Democrats, the Trump dossier, because they have nothing else.
They have to cover for something else.
We don't know what that is yet.
I have not seen the documents the FBI presented to Congress.
I'm not cleared to.
I'm not sure who else has seen them outside of Congress either.
But the fact that Congress is flipping out and now saying, hey, look at the transcript of the dossier.
Joe wasn't that bad.
Look what Simpson said at Congress.
That's Strassel's theory that they're rehabbing the dossier because they have nothing else and the rest is going to be devastating.
Which should make you say, what the heck have they seen?
The unanswered question, because I said we were going to dig into that, is are they covering for 702 violations?
In other words, the FBI and the NSA dumping into metadata, looking into it, and querying without a warrant, Trump team members.
That is an unanswered question.
Okay, but there's so much here, folks.
I'm really sorry.
I'm deeply appalled.
I'm not trying to jump around.
I feel like I'm doing you a disservice if I don't get this all out, okay?
Am I doing all right here?
Yeah.
All right.
The Wall Street Journal today, and I like the Wall Street Journal, I'm not taking any cheap shots, but they are definitely not libertarians, has a piece out about 702 authorization.
Which was voted on yesterday in the House.
702 to be clear, Joe, is the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act provision which allows the FBI to dip into that metadata with the NSA, just like I just told you.
The Wall Street Journal has an absolutely puzzling piece in their editorial column today that makes no sense at all.
Joe, before I read this quick line from there, Did I not just tell you in April 26th of 2017, there is a dated Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court review document, 99 pages long, which lays out violations of 702?
Yes, you did just tell me that, Dan.
Yes, you did, Daniel!
It will be in the show notes.
Read it yourself.
I didn't make it up.
Again, page 20, page 83, but you can read it.
It's very readable.
I read it yesterday on the plane coming back.
The whole thing.
It's great.
Knowing it's already been lined out on an official court document there are violations.
Here's a piece from the journal today which should really scare you.
The journal says uh they're talking about 702 and and illegal jumps into 702 to spy an American show.
They go there's no evidence this is happening and requiring probable cause may dissuade the FBI from making a 702 query.
The opposite of what the post 9-11 laws are meant to encourage.
There's What do you mean?
Yeah.
That's us scratching our heads.
It's actually not someone else, but it sounds better.
But I am going to scratch my head.
What?
What do you mean there's no evidence?
What are you talking about?
The court put out a document saying the FBI has tapped into the metadata of database In a way, not commensurate with its own minimization procedure.
It's there.
How did you miss that?
I mean, folks, this is not privileged information.
The court document is out there.
I've had it emailed to me by no less than probably 20 people.
Thank you, by the way, for the emails, folks.
I read them all.
But that's why I'm saying also, you know, that's where people get upset.
Oh, why didn't you give me a shout out?
Because some people say, who sent it to me, don't mention my name.
And then other people say, I don't care if you mention it.
I'm just going to keep everybody out of it.
Folks, this is serious stuff.
And it is absolutely no time to minimize the threat we're under.
But it is... I'm not accusing the Wall Street Journal of lying about it.
Maybe they just don't know.
But I'm wondering why they would write that in a piece.
I want to just get back a second to this, what's your solution for this?
Because yesterday there was a vote on this.
I am in Rand Paul's camp, before I get back to the unanswered questions, it's important because it connects to 702, connects to the Wall Street Journal telling you, oh don't worry folks, the American public should support Pfizer.
There have been no violations of 702.
That's just not true.
Folks, it's real simple.
Just get a warrant.
Just get a warrant.
It involves Americans, get a warrant.
And this line, Joe, that they use here, what I just read to you from the Wall Street Journal, well, if they have to get a warrant, it's going to dissuade FBI agents from tapping into the database.
Folks, that's the whole idea!
I mean, that's like, think about the argument there.
Yeah.
If you're a libertarian or a conservative.
You could make the same argument with the local police and go, Joe, the local police are going to break into every house at four o'clock every day to check for drugs and contraband because it's going to be really easy then to find out who the drug dealers are in the neighborhood.
And then we come out and go, um, I think you should have to get a warrant for that.
No, well, Joe, that's going to dissuade them from breaking into houses.
That's the point!
The point is to dissuade them from doing it.
How did you miss that?
That's the whole point.
I'm not some crazy libertarian guy.
I'm a libertarian.
I love liberty.
But they think we're all nuts, Joe.
Everybody thinks, oh, you libertarians are all crazy.
We're not crazy.
This happened.
I'm giving you the evidence.
Read the piece.
Read the piece!
The whole point is to stop people from, uh, well, we may miss a terror attack.
You know what, Joe?
We may.
But we'll be a free country.
You know what?
We may miss a drug deal or not breaking into every house at noon.
We may miss a drunk driver not setting up a police checkpoint on every corner in America.
But you're free!
Does freedom matter?
Does this mean anything?
Does it mean anything to you folks?
This is insane!
We know the Trump team was spied on!
We know the FBI spied on Americans!
Yeah, it may not have been pervasive, but it was pervasive enough that they had to conduct a compliance review at the NSA and a surveillance court lost their marbles over it!
So I am entirely behind Rand Paul and Amash and get a warrant!
Get a warrant!
Get a warrant!
You got an American in this, get a warrant!
Gosh, the Constitution mattering much.
Sorry, I didn't mean to get sidetracked.
I'm still, but this is important stuff, folks.
This stuff is all interrelated.
That's the, you know, the web we weave and complicated topics and complicated podcasts like this.
You know, you want fluff stuff, there's a thousand other people you can listen to who are the screamer types.
When I'm yelling and screaming, it's because I mean something.
But this is important stuff.
It's not a joke.
Get a warrant.
Okay, so getting back to the unanswered questions, because that's how I want to sum up this entire week of shows.
So now we have unanswered question one.
Was the Trump team spied on using 702?
Without a warrant.
They are American citizens.
That is not in their purview to do that without a clear connection to a national security interest.
If so, what was the national security interest on Trump?
We still don't have those answers.
Don't even dare tell me the Logan Act.
I'll laugh you off the air.
Okay, second unanswered question.
What did Obama know?
What did Obama know?
It's an open question.
I don't know, folks.
I was not there for the proceedings as this was going down.
But having some experience working in the White House, not in the, I don't, we don't sit in on the meetings, I just want to be clear on this.
Understanding how the mechanical part of the White House works.
You can't tell me, Joe, that the most consequential counterintelligence investigation in American history being conducted against the Trump team by the FBI was going on without the White House knowing, and Jim Comey in his March testimony in 2017 already acknowledges the White House knows.
My question is not when, but what did Obama know?
And if Obama knew that the FBI and NSA was using 702 and the Data Joe to spy on an opposing presidential campaign, Houston, we got a big, big problem, folks.
Remember, Watergate was a burglary at a hotel for some crappy DNC documents that took down a president and shook the whole country.
A sitting president using the technical monopolistic force powers of government to open up the email files and phone records of a Trump campaign during a presidential campaign against Obama consigliere and Hillary Clinton?
Holy crikeys do you have a problem.
Now you kind of see why they're rehabbing the dossier, Joe?
Yeah, buddy.
Maybe they need that dossier.
Oh no, Obama didn't do it.
The dossier did it.
Yeah, but the dossier was false.
Oh, oh shucks.
Oh boy.
Too bad.
It reminds me of Nelson Muntz from The Simpsons.
But you broke your arm.
But I said.
I mean this is a Nelson Munch moment.
That's the best you've got?
Now it is?
That's the reason I'm closing Strassel's piece and Kim Strassel's thoughts from Wall Street Journal, WSJ, about the dossier.
This is so bad that this is all you've got left.
Hoping and praying at this point that the media will pick up your narrative that don't look over here at 702 and spy in on Trump.
The dossier did it.
Dopes.
All right.
Unanswered questions number three, which is more of kind of a statement and a couple of questions in there.
So again, question number two is when did Obama know it?
What did he not when?
What did he know when he knew it?
Is a better way.
What did he know when he figured it out?
Was the Trump team spied on?
That was question number one.
Folks, question number three, which is going to be married up with an assertion I'm going to make.
I do not do conspiracy theories, okay?
I don't do it.
It's caused me a lot of consternation amongst some of my audience.
You are free to believe.
I respect your opinion, whatever you want.
I don't do them.
If I don't have some evidence to say something, and when I'm speculating, we say it.
We're clear on that, and I've been clear on that in the shows.
But when I don't have evidence, I'm not interested.
I get tons of stuff in my email box.
Got one the other day.
Look at this!
It's garbage.
I'm sorry.
Thank you.
But it doesn't make any sense.
I know the real story behind it.
But now here's the question.
Here's why I'm bringing this up.
If Donald Trump was being cultivated by the Russians as an asset, And that was your national security reason for tapping into the metadata database to get the phone and email records of the Trump team?
Joe, do you think anybody any more seriously believes that Vladimir Putin was cultivating Donald Trump as an asset thinking he could control it?
Oh, hell no!
Are you serious?
Folks, You don't have to like Trump.
I do.
But Joe, does anyone with a straight face, the most ardent anti-Trump communist, actually believe anybody controls Donald Trump?
Are you serious?
Are you a complete wackadoodle?
Nobody controls this guy!
Nobody!
He doesn't, his own staff doesn't control.
You think Vladimir Putin was going to control Donald Trump?
Hey, we got this spy ass at Armacost.
This guy's great.
He's willing to work for us.
We're going to give him a thousand a week for information.
Who is it?
And everybody's like waiting with bated breath.
The Russian, the Russian co-conspirators in the room, they're waiting for Putin to talk.
He goes, it's a real dramatic pause.
He goes, Donald Trump.
We got Donald Trump for a thousand a week?
You got him!
You got him, baby!
This guy's controlled!
He is in the bag!
Is this the dumbest thing ever?
Is this not the dumbest thing you've ever heard?
This is just straight-up, unadulterated, liberal, stupid soup that you have consumed in gallons.
You can't seriously believe this with a straight face.
Now, I'm gonna get to the... That's one connection to why I don't believe in stupid conspiracy theories, because that conspiracy theory is frankly the dumbest thing I've ever heard, but I've got another angle on this.
Don't go anywhere.
I got another angle on this in a second.
That angle is just straight up stupid.
I'm bringing it up because I'm in the airport yesterday flying out of JFK, and some goon behind me, and yes, if you're listening to my show, I'm not gonna say your name, you're a goon.
This goon behind me, he starts off the conversation nice.
You know, people recognize me from Fox.
So he says, and I've never had a bad interaction up until yesterday.
I mean, I work from home a lot, so I just don't see too many people.
But when I travel, people say hello.
99% of them are nice.
I didn't tell you this story before the show.
Guy starts off the conversation, no problem at all.
Hey, are you Dan Bongino from Fox?
No, he said, are you that guy from Fox?
Yeah.
Yeah.
How you doing?
Shake his hand.
Perfectly fine.
I'm thinking he's a supporter or whatever.
We talked for like two minutes.
The guy goes, Nuclear on me, like out of nowhere.
He's like, and you guys aren't rational and you're crazy and Trump's a criminal and he's going to get locked up.
And I'm on a TSA line, Joe.
And I'm like, you know, WTF, over?
Like, what do I do now?
I mean, what are you going to do?
I mean, I don't want to, you want to get in a Royal Rumble?
I mean, where does this, the guy's yelling like a maniac.
So I'm telling my wife the story later.
And I'm like, I'm not getting into this again.
I'm not.
I'm not.
People take out their video.
I've already been audio taped by one idiot.
I'm not getting into this crap again.
That guy was a media guy.
He deserved it.
But I'm like, what do I say to this guy just to piss this guy off, right?
So all I keep saying to him is he keeps firing these.
Collusion!
He's a felon!
The guy's losing his mind.
The TSA people are looking like, we can even let this guy on the plane.
Wow.
All I keep saying to the guy is, bro why are you so mad?
Which drives him crazy!
I know I'm like I better because he's gonna deck me and then I'm gonna have to go like triangle choke this dude and I really don't want to do that.
I mean seriously I mean a great part about fighting all the time is you're never afraid of fighting which is a bad thing because I don't want I'm gonna get sued right?
So I was sitting there, and I keep saying to him, bro, why are you so mad?
And people now are laughing because he's losing his mind that there's a bunch of Trump supporters, and the guy's mad.
He drops his bags at one point, and I'm like, oh boy, this is going to get ugly.
Bottom line, he stops at the end, at the end of the line, because he realizes he's probably going to get thrown off, and he calms down, but he goes, and it's collusion, man!
And I look at him, and the only thing of substance I say to him, Joe, is, can you please show me under the United States Criminal Code, Title 18, whatever it may be, Title 8, can you please explain to me where the collusion statute is?
And he looks at me puzzled, and I said to him, you do realize what you said is not a crime at all?
So you've invested your time.
The only reason I bring this story up, one, because it's funny.
Yeah, it was.
And I don't give enough personal stories.
But secondly is you have to believe two things.
Number one, Putin was cultivating Trump as an asset, which is the most laughable, stupid story.
You need an IQ of 67 to believe in that.
But number two, If you don't believe in that, and you still believe there was some collusion, like exchanging of information, you still can't point to a crime.
Either way, you lose, and they shouldn't have been spying on the Trump team.
Either way, collusion's not the right... Collusion, the way you're describing it, not smart, Joe.
Right.
Not advisable?
I'm not even suggesting any of this happened.
I'm just telling you, even what you suggest happened, that I don't believe happened, still isn't a crime.
And the guy looked puzzled.
He goes, oh, it's somewhere in there.
Um, no, it's not, but that's okay, dude.
Keep living in your frack free world.
Have a nice day.
He knows who he is.
Now I bring up the conspiracy thing again, because that's a conspiracy theory.
The collusion thing is a total conspiracy theory.
There's no evidence at all.
And it's just dumb.
But now, you know, why don't I personally do conspiracy theories outside?
Why am I so... In other words, why am I constantly bringing this up on the show?
Folks, this is a sensitive topic to me.
I worked in the federal government for a long time.
I had a TSSCI clearance.
Top Secret Sensitive Compartmented Information, okay?
Which means I got to see stuff and hear stuff that a lot of people don't get to see and hear.
It's not a pat on the back, it's just a function of my job, you know?
Everybody gets to see and hear stuff that shouldn't be out in the public, whatever business you're in, right?
I'm sure Joe says stuff at meetings and CBM in the morning, they don't want WBAL here.
Absolutely!
Now that the information is a little more serious, it still doesn't matter, you're still not supposed to disclose it.
I am very, very skeptical of people who believe That the government is the puppet master of anything.
Some conspiracy theories out there have the government doing this and nobody knows and they did that and nobody knows and they blew that up and nobody knows and they killed that guy.
I don't buy it because I worked in the government and there was one specific operation I was involved in.
I'm not even going to hint.
I'm telling you it was classified.
How do you say this without being ridiculously hyperbolic and overly dramatic?
This thing's classified at the absolute highest levels.
And the reason I was involved in it is because of what the function of the job was.
Folks, I'm not making this up.
It was information that when I saw it, I was like, whoa.
I know people involved in that who would like wink and nod to me.
In ways that I was like, dude, don't do that.
Didn't say anything, but didn't have to.
I'm winking and nodding at you and basically telling you nobody in the government can keep a secret.
They can't.
They can't.
As evidenced by all the leaks coming out about the Trump team about classified information.
And Sarah Carter's hint that, hey, was that 702 thing?
Well, how did they get their mitts on the Flynn transcript?
Oh, how did that happen?
Nobody can keep a secret.
No one.
That's why I don't believe in conspiracy theories.
If a lot of these conspiracy theories about the big bad puppet master government were true about what they managed to do to us, I'm telling you someone would have leaked it.
I'm telling you that's a fact.
There's no way.
You see where I'm going with this, Joe?
There's an angle to this case though.
I have another recent source.
You know who you are.
It's very, very good.
Who sent me something brilliant that we haven't yet considered on this case.
So the setup here, Dan Bongino does not do conspiracy theories because the government is too stupid to keep a secret, okay?
Some in the government are not too stupid to keep a secret though.
Some in the government, Joe, are just too stupid.
To run a conspiracy.
Now, the information I got is funny, right?
It's true!
Some!
Listen, I'm a patriot.
We've got great military, Secret Service, FBI.
But there are some just genuinely stupid people.
The source I have on this brought up a brilliant point.
Here it is in a nutshell.
If these guys were so smart and were breaking this Russian collusion, they were trying to develop Trump as an asset, and these brilliant FBI managers and DOJ people were on to this and discovered the biggest collusion conspiracy in American electoral history, why did their tradecraft suck so bad?
Tradecraft, meaning they're spying skills.
And they're discovering spies.
Intelligence and counterintelligence.
They're spying and discovering spies.
How come their tradecraft sucked so bad?
Joe, really, I had to take notes on this.
You got Peter Stroke, the lead interviewer in the Flynn case, and a upper-level manager in the FBI involved in both the Clinton email and this Russian collusion conspiracy theory, Joe.
You have a senior level FBI guy who's having an affair with a DOJ lawyer who texts her over an FBI device how much they hate Trump and how they're leaking to the press.
Hey, dude, that's really great work.
You are some spy.
What a super sleuth.
There you go.
We need that.
Keep that baby handy.
You got Inspector Gadget here, man.
So the source says to me, who has, by the way, is that not great?
The source says to me, who is just like deeply read in on this whole thing, the source on how the procedure works, I shouldn't say the whole case, but how the procedure works, says this is the worst tradecraft I have ever seen in my entire life for people who allegedly have discovered the greatest scandal in human history.
It's a scam!
It doesn't end there though!
Again, why does Dan Bongino not believe in conspiracy theories?
Because some people are just too stupid to do them.
Is this unbelievable?
This is like the most unbelievable thing I've ever heard in my life.
Sorry about that bell.
Did you hear that bell ring in my background?
If you got that on the show, that never... I usually close my door.
My wife left the door open.
Crack.
Sorry, folks.
But it's part of the show, so listen.
I have my office.
We're getting some nice soundproofing.
Hopefully you won't hear any of that in the future.
Now, going on.
It's not just that tradecraft.
Another great point the source brings up to me The two people involved intimately in this now, Bob Mueller, who's the special counsel head, we're investigating Trump, and Jim Comey, who was the FBI director, Joe.
Jimbo!
Jimbo, old Jimbo.
While this whole thing was going on, Jim Comey's the FBI director, right?
Yeah.
The source brings up a great point and goes, what's their track record of success?
And just a few notes on this.
Here are some of their real winners.
Enron, the Enron case, which was, by the way, a lot of that was overturned.
The Clinton email investigation, they blew entirely and got led on by fake Russian intel.
The Rosatom case against the, you know, the Uranium One scandal, that, by the way, that Rod Rosenstein and Bob Mueller had to squash and had to silence people on later on.
What's their track record of success?
Like, we're supposed to believe the trade crap of these two geniuses now?
More like trade crap.
Tradecraft!
That's going on a t-shirt!
Tradecraft!
Finally, on the tradecraft front!
This is another good point made by the source, again, who's read in on how this works.
It's a great point.
So Christopher Steele, it's funny, right?
This genius, what are you laughing at?
You're so damn excited about this.
Oh, I know, I know.
I forget he can see.
I know, now that he can see me, the show has a different dynamic.
So we've changed some stuff mechanically, right?
I am excited because it's so dumb!
Again, why is Dan Bongino not believing conspiracy theories?
Because some people are too damn stupid!
So you have this MI6 agent, Joe, this like James Bond, Christopher Steele guy working for Fusion GPS, who produces a dossier, a dossier that Jim Comey, the FBI director himself, admits is salacious and unverified, that now we know was used to get a warrant to spy on or retroactively cover for the spying on of the Trump team.
And the only thing, the only thing they can confirm in the dossier, because James Bond Jr.
Steele produced it, is that Carter Page, a backbencher Trump associate, mildly associated at best with the campaign, traveled to Russia at one point.
That's the only thing they can verify in the whole thing!
This is the worst tradecraft in spying history.
If this was a movie, it would be called The Clown Princes of Spying, and yet we're supposed to believe, Joe, that these geniuses, James Bond Jr., Inspector Gadget, Christopher Steele, who put a dossier together, and the only thing that's actually true is that Carter Page traveled to Russia, We're supposed to believe that this guy, in conjunction with Bob Mueller and Jim Comey, who were in charge of the FBI when some of the biggest busts in American investigative history were going down, that those two, and then in conjunction with Peter Stroke, who's having an affair with a DOJ lawyer involved in the FISA warrant, who texts on an open line
Knowing the NSA is going to be watching about how much he hates Trump, we're all supposed to believe this.
That these geniuses, Joe, discovered the biggest scandal in American history.
We're supposed to accept this at face value.
This was brilliant.
So thank you to the source.
You are a genius for sending me what you sent me.
And by the way, it's worse.
I just am giving you the highlights.
There was a brilliant point.
And again, it harps back to the beginning, Joe, as to why we don't give shout-outs sometimes, because we get things from different people.
It's not always what you think.
And there are some who are writing about this who I'm absolutely convinced are moving down the wrong path, and I don't want to do that to you.
Joe and I are very careful with the facts here.
Yeah.
Because you know what liberals do.
You get one date wrong, they're like, oh, the whole thing is a lie!
Meanwhile, liberals get everything wrong all the time and nothing matters.
But that's important, folks.
The tradecraft was so bad that relying on that to be the guy... Relying on that to be the guy in the airport, I guess where I'm going, and to rely on all of this to foster your narrative that Putin was cultivating Trump as an asset and that they were colluding is... Folks, it's insane.
It's insane.
It's beyond insane.
It's Looney Tunes.
It's Bugs Bunny stuff.
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One final outstanding question I have here on this case, and then I want to move on to something else because it's important.
And I do have to, I know we've been covering this for a long time.
The critical question, I think one of them, critical questions that are still unanswered.
We're still on the unanswered questions.
First was, was Trump surveilled using 702?
Their email and their phone records, the team.
Second question, what did Obama know?
How much detail did he have on this?
Third, if this is a conspiracy theory, it's based on the worst tradecraft in U.S.
history and it's really like a comedy routine.
Four, the information superhighway I talked about and I alluded to, the connection The connection, Joseph, between Glenn Simpson, Fusion GPS, and Christopher Steele, non-US law enforcement, non-intelligence people, and the intelligence community.
Where and when and how deeply was the exchange of information there?
Now, in question number one, I said to you, there are people out there hypothesizing on this.
I'm not willing to make the connection yet, but there's certainly some information there to make you go, hmm.
Was that superhighway, FBI queries into the database about phone and email records of Trump, were they the private contractors, Fusion GPS, that the FISA court's own document refers to?
I don't know that yet.
When I get a hard answer from a solid source, I will tell you, because that scandal alone is the biggest of the biggest scandal.
Oh, oh, we were just spying on Trump and giving it to private contractors?
Oh, there you go.
That's great.
Nice work there, fellas.
We don't know that yet.
What we do know, though, folks, is there is a potential other avenue for the information superhighway.
And when I say the superhighway, in terms of the bigger, larger conspiracy here, the real conspiracy, I'm talking about how was Intel getting from law enforcement classification, Intel classification, to private citizens who had no authorization to read it.
Make sense, Joe?
Yeah.
The other question we need to answer is what is the relationship In detail.
Between the oars, Bruce Oar, the Associate Deputy Attorney General.
Who, remember, also ran OCDEF and Project Cassandra with the Iranians, the Hezbollah expose, and all of a sudden that all got sidelined in terms of the Iran deal.
The Iran deal was a big desire, the gold medal desire of the Obama administration.
They needed the Russians on board.
It's also why I told you I think they sidelined a lot of that information about Uranium One, which they need to go away.
They didn't want Trump to expose any of that.
But, or, what is the relationship between or, and Simpson and Simpson's wife.
The Orr is Nellie Orr who works over at Fusion GPS, works for Glenn Simpson.
She is connected obviously to her husband who's working in the Justice Department.
Is this If 702 data, in other words phone and email records the FBI shouldn't have had on Trump Joe, if they had it how exactly did that information get into the hands of Fusion GPS?
It says in the piece the FBI was working with private contractors but even if that's referring to something different, which it may be Joe, that does not mean That the Orr-Simpson relationship wasn't the superhighway connection between law enforcement intelligence entities and Fusion GPS.
Because remember, Bruce Orr works in the Justice Department at an upper-level management position.
He knows all of this that's going on.
His wife's working for Fusion GPS.
That connection, the connection's clear.
But the information on that superhighway that went there isn't exactly crystal yet, and that's kind of one of the relationships I want to flesh out.
One second here, I just want to see what I get to next.
Alright, wow, we've gone really long today.
Alright, one final story, because I haven't discussed any more news of the week and I'm way, way backed up.
Joe, you got that cut of our friend Nancy?
Yeah, play that cut for us.
This is hysterical.
Nancy Pelosi, folks.
You can never go a week without one of these gems.
Play that.
So, in terms of the bonus that corporate America received versus the crumbs that they are giving to workers to kind of put the schmooze on, it's so pathetic.
It's so pathetic.
And I would hope that with their big Advantage of bringing money home at a very low rate that they would invest in infrastructure and things but they got experience has been that they will They will do dividends.
They will be stock buybacks and things like that.
I think it's insignificant.
Yes, ma'am Are you like a crazy person?
Folks, is she for real?
Americans are getting thousands of dollars in bonuses.
Joe, neither you nor I know Rich.
Things are looking well for DB, but a thousand dollars is a lot of dough, right?
I mean, folks, are you sure this is the path you want to take right now as the Democrats?
People all over the country are getting thousands of dollars in bonuses due to the Trump tax cut and the election path you want to run on next year is Nancy Pelosi's.
You're getting the crumbs from Longshank's table like this is a Braveheart.
Are you crazy?
Remember Braveheart?
Get the crumbs from Longshank's table.
Are you nuts?
One final point on Crazy Nancy.
So that's it.
That's only the point.
Is that really where you want to go in the midterms?
That $1,000 bonus?
A bunch of crumbs, you deplorable snobs.
I mean, oh my gosh.
Take a bath, you great unwashed.
What an elitist.
Finally, one point on Nancy also.
She also said something else yesterday.
I just want to point out the hypocrisy the Democrats and the kooky Looney Tunes left.
Nancy Pelosi talking about the immigration debate and talking about guys at the table doing it.
Trump, Steny Hoyer, Dick Durbin and others.
Called them the five white guys.
You heard about that?
She was maybe they should open a hamburger stand.
So she makes, Joe, an overtly racist comment about race.
But nobody in the media accuses her of being a racist.
I shouldn't say no one.
No major media outlet says Nancy Pelosi is a racist.
She makes a racist comment.
She impugns people based on race.
It's racist.
She goes, you got these five white guys sitting around a table, let's go open a hamburger stand.
Nobody accused her of racism.
Trump makes a comment, allegedly, he's saying he didn't, about, you know, blank hole countries.
You know what he said, folks.
It's an expletive.
Blank hole countries sending people here.
Makes no reference of race at all, Joe!
And what's the left-wing media headline?
Oh, Trump's a racist.
Folks, just forget it.
Give up on this stuff.
These people are imbeciles.
Don't click on their stuff.
Ignore them.
And I'm telling you, by the way, Trump's comments are not going to hurt him.
He's saying he didn't say it, by the way, just to be clear.
But based on a text I got yesterday from another person I use for political advice, who's a votes Democrat all the time, the person sent me a text yesterday and was like, you know what?
Good for Trump.
We have to do better on immigration.
That comment, Joe, ain't gonna hurt him one bit, guaranteed.
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