Ep. 630 Exposing the coverup of the biggest scandal in American history
Is this former Obama administration official covering up his role in the biggest scandal in American history?
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Get ready to hear the truth about America on a show that's not immune to the facts with your host, Dan Bongino.
All right, welcome to the Dan Bongino Show.
Producer Joe, how are you today?
Hanging in there, good to go.
Looking at that Elvis mane of yours.
All right, listen, folks, here's the deal.
So we did the Friday show.
The Trump operation was set up.
We did the show on Monday.
Why the setup?
We did the show yesterday.
The cover-up for Uranium One and a lot of things.
Today, because we do have to get back to some other stories, I don't want to bombard you with five straight days of this, four straight days of this, but it's only the biggest scandal of our entire lifetime.
Today, I'm going to sum up for you quickly some remaining outstanding questions on this and a puzzling question, hat tip to conservative treehouse guys, that I was turned on to last night and this morning by someone.
And they provide some interesting information.
Just remember where we are.
The Trump operation is set up.
It's set up and it's spied on by the Obama team.
They need to be dirtied up, the Trump team.
Why?
Because the Obama team needs to cover for the failure of the Russian reset, the Uranium One operation, all the other nonsense.
Afterwards, the daylight happens, Trump gets elected, everybody's in a panic.
That's where we are.
I'm going to get to all this in a second.
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Okay.
Some outstanding questions on this Trump, the biggest scandal of our lifetime, the Trump Russia conspiracy fairytale and the spying operation.
Someone said to me yesterday, I still don't understand the connection between Uranium One and the Trump spying thing.
Well, that's what yesterday's show was all about.
And go back and listen for all of the details, because I don't want to repeat yesterday's show, but maybe I should just sum it up for you.
It'll make sense.
The Obama administration, during its entire eight years, folks, was committed to a rebalancing of power in the Middle East.
Away from the Saudis and into more of a Shia-dominated power balance to the Sunnis in Saudi Arabia.
Now, Joe, if I lose anybody, make sure you stop me, okay?
They wanted to empower Iran in an effort to rebalance power.
Now, this isn't a secret.
The Obama administration was seeking an Iran deal from almost the minute they got in office, okay?
They needed a deal with the Iranians.
Now, I'm not going to go into all the politics of that right now.
You all know it was a crap deal.
We basically gave a path to nuclearization to the Iranians.
But in order to do that, they needed the Russians on board because the Russians and Iranians have kind of a symbiotic relationship as well for all kinds of reasons.
There are ports in Syria the Russians have that they use.
The Syrians are aligned with the Iranians.
There's a lot of geopolitical stuff here.
All you need to know for the purpose of this is that the Russian reset, Joe.
Remember the Russian reset with the Obama administration?
They wanted to reset relationships with the Russians.
For those of you who missed that, there was that stupid reset button Hillary had.
A lot of that had to do with, one, Obama thinking he was going to save the world and put a band-aid on it.
He didn't think the Russians were a serious threat because he's not a cold warrior in the traditional sense.
And also, he needed the Russians for the Iran deal.
So he didn't want to make the Russians look bad.
Obama needed to appease the Russians at all costs.
Hence yesterday's podcast, when the Russians bought the uranium through Rosatom in the United States, the Obama administration does nothing to stop the deal, even though they know the Russian company buying the uranium, Joe, is already under serious federal investigation for money laundering activity.
They know this.
This never comes up in the briefing about them, the Russian company, buying uranium in the United States.
Not Eric Holder doesn't bring it up.
Nobody brings it up on the CFIUS board that has to approve the deal.
I talked about this yesterday, but this is important to set up, because if you miss the connection, none of this makes any sense why Trump was spied on.
The Russian reset failed catastrophically when?
Joe's looking at me in eager anticipation.
I love this because we don't rehearse this before the show because I really like to look at his reaction too.
The Russian reset fails when the Russians invade Ukraine.
When the Russians invade eastern Ukraine and Crimea, Obama realizes he's with an E.D.
at the end.
That was a pisser.
That was a pisser all right, Joseph.
Well said.
In the most diplomatic and scientific of terms, as Joe always... We may want to put that on one of our t-shirts when we get that out.
That's a pisser.
Joe Armacost, quote, that's a pisser.
It is.
He is in a world of trouble now.
Because this entire idea that there are one moderates in Iran, that kind of collapses slowly.
But also this idea that the Russians aren't an aggressive geopolitical foe collapses because they invade their partner in Ukraine.
Now what is he gonna say?
Hey, the Russians are great!
They just invaded their neighbor and started whacking people.
Uh, maybe they're not so great.
Now they're in a panic.
The Obama administration then can't have any of that information, Joe, about how they bypassed normal procedures to let the Russians buy our uranium get out there because allowing the Russians to buy our uranium, Joe, was premised on the fact that these were good guys, right?
Yeah.
Remember, we were only told the Russians were evil again after Trump won, right?
You remember Obama during the campaign, Joe, with Mitt Romney?
Romney goes, hey, the Russians are our biggest geopolitical foe.
Obama, the 1980s called, Mitt, you know, you should get your foreign policy back.
No, he said that, Obama.
He was making fun of Romney for pointing out the danger the Russians presented.
Folks, this all happened.
This isn't conspiracy theory stuff.
This all happened that is on tape.
You can look it up yourself.
We were only told the Russians were bad again after Trump won because they needed a narrative to cover their asses.
Russians invade Ukraine.
Now the idea that the Russians are a friend is out the window.
Now the panic sets in.
Oh my gosh, we sold them uranium.
Not only that, Joe, we sold them uranium to a company that's already pled guilty to money laundering.
I mean, this is the connection.
So, see where we are now.
The Obama administration now says to themselves, okay, the Russians invaded Ukraine, they're bad actors, but we sold them uranium.
What happens, Joe, if Trump wins?
See, they're not worried if Hillary wins.
And the Russians aren't either, because they already have dirt on Hillary, as I said yesterday.
The Russians want dirt on everyone.
But the Obama administration's worried because if Hillary wins, it's no big deal.
All right, all good.
Hillary just sweeps it under the rug and it goes away like everything went away under the Obama administration, right?
They appoint people.
Remember, people are politics, folks.
You appoint bureaucrats at the FBI and DOJ who are Clinton acolytes.
They're not going to indict.
They're going to cover for Hillary and Obama and all this Uranium One garbage.
It's not a problem.
They have already done it.
The proof is in the pudding.
Now the Obama administration, after the Ukraine invasion, starts to panic a little bit and realizes, damn, if Trump gets elected, Joe, this is all going to come out what we did to sell uranium to the Russians.
Despite the fact that a fifth of our energy is provided by nuclear fuel, but we only produce a fifth of the nuclear fuel.
Wait, wait, wait.
So you're saying, Dan, we don't supply enough of our own nuclear fuel to supply our own energy needs in the United States and yet we exported it to Russians who we've just been told by the Democrats after the Trump election are a danger to humanity?
Yes, that's what I'm telling you.
None of this is disputed, folks!
This is all fact!
Now, the speculation granted, but based on evidence as a former criminal investigator I'm putting together, is that the Obama administration is grotesquely uncomfortable with all of this when the Ukraine invasion happens.
They are worried because they don't want it to come out if Trump gets elected.
Now, great, now you got the U1.
Damn, I don't understand it.
How is this tied in in any way to the Trumps thing?
They need to dirty up Trump.
They need to dirty up Trump and his players using the same players involved in Uranium One.
That way, if Trump threatens to expose it, they go, well, look, look what we have on you now.
We approached your people about Russian emails.
And by the way, a lot of these are the same players involved in Uranium One.
Mueller, Rosenstein, all of the Australians I told you about yesterday.
They're the same players.
Now, all of a sudden, it's like, again, if Joe robbed the bank, You want the guy to rob the bank with you.
You know what it reminds me of, Joe?
You said something yesterday after the show.
I was like, damn it, why didn't you say that during the show?
Like, it was a great observation.
We were talking about how... So remind me of Serpico, if I forget this.
Keep that in your mind.
But Joe's example too, because Joe said to me yesterday, he goes, you know what you should have said about the Russians instead of their playing the Vig like a bookie?
They're playing both sides against each other because they get the Vig.
He said, you should have talked about these people who donate to both political parties.
I said, Joe, that's a brilliant example.
Why do they do that?
Aren't they interested in the winner?
No!
They're only interested in who wins.
They're not interested in the winner.
You may say, what's the difference?
They don't care who wins.
They've already paid off both sides.
It doesn't matter.
You know what?
I have that in reverse.
They're interested in the winner, not who wins.
That's actually the better way to say it, right, Joe?
They're only interested in the winner, not who wins.
They don't care.
They've already paid off both sides.
The Russians needed dirt.
They were more than happy to comply in this sting and provide information to the Democrats through Fusion GPS to dirty up Trump because they don't care.
They want dirt on everybody.
That's number one.
Number two on the Serpico thing.
Serpico was a cop in New York who did what didn't want to play when there were dirty cops in New York at the time.
You know, a small portion of them nonetheless, but dirty big time.
Those cops wanted Serpico to take the bribes, too.
There were drug dealers paying off cops, saying, hey, here's a cut, you know, don't arrest us.
All right.
And the cop looked the other way.
They were like, hey, Serpico, I think his name is Frank Serpico, you need to take part of this, too.
And he said, I don't want it.
And that freaked people out, Joe, because why?
Now he's not involved in the scheme.
You see what I'm saying?
Like, if he's not involved in the scheme, he could become a rat.
You know what I'm saying?
They didn't want a rat in a Trump team.
They wanted the Trump team dirty too.
So they send these same Russian players who bought the uranium, knew the people who bought the uranium, or were connected to people who bought the uranium, through Putin who wants the uranium, they send the same players through the Fusion GPS team to set up the Trump team.
Which the Obama team vacuums up because they want the Trump team dirty too, knowing that if Trump wins and they're dirty by the same crime, just like they're taking the money from the drug dealers like Serpico, who didn't, didn't take it.
They don't want to rat.
If Serpico takes the money, he can't rat because he's guilty too.
Right.
Make sense, Joe?
Yeah.
Good way to put it.
Yeah.
Now, that's the connection.
And the connection is made to a number of people, some of whom I addressed yesterday, but the big connection here, I think, to all of this, is the Russian lawyer meets with Don Trump Jr.
Why meet with Don Trump Jr.?
What does this lady have to do with anything?
Well, she represents Previzan.
She represents a company with ties to the Russian government that was involved in money laundering.
Tries to get in the United States.
She gets in.
She's denied the ability to stay.
All of a sudden she gets a visa to stay.
She then appears, she represents a company with known ties to the Russian government involved in a separate money laundering case, Joe.
She then pops in to a meeting with Don Trump Jr.
alleging to have information about Hillary, which she never produces.
I don't understand.
You get a meeting with the potential future president, at the time a candidate, Don Trump.
You get a meeting with his son, one of his most important advisors, Joe.
The whole premise of the meeting is that you have bad... By the way, Don Trump Jr.
just put all these emails out there.
Clearly, if he's guilty of something, you're not going to release all the emails, right?
Right.
Maybe obviously a bad idea to take the meeting.
I think he's acknowledged that.
But they show up and say, hey, we have negative information on Hillary.
And what does she do?
She comes in, she wants to talk about Russian adoption or the Magnitsky Act.
Which says to me, this is a setup.
The whole time it's a setup.
When Don Trump leaves, Jr., by the way, leaves the meeting early because he realizes this is probably a bad idea and a total waste of time, they panic.
They've got nothing because, Joe, remember, the Serpico, the good guy in this case, in my opinion, Don Trump, Jr., didn't take the money.
He didn't sit in a meeting and continue to probe about, you know, hey, we need those, get us all that dirt.
You see what I'm saying?
They had nothing.
They needed them dirty!
This lady was intimately connected to the Russian government.
The connection is the fact that the Obama administration needs to hide this Uranium One deal after the Ukrainian invasion.
They need Trump dirty so that he doesn't expose this stuff.
That's the connection.
Granted, granted.
I get it.
Is there a direct money trail?
In other words, you know, the Rosatom chairman paid Veselnitskaya to go and set up Don Trump Jr.
We don't have that yet.
There's no clear smoking gun in this.
But folks, remember, these cases are built on first levels of proof.
First, you get, you know, just basic standard evidence.
Then you get reasonable suspicion, then you get probable cause, and then you get beyond the reasonable doubt, which the level of conviction is.
I'm not making a criminal case right now that these two are connected, but I am making to you a logical inference based on a series of facts where, again, the deductions I'm making just make sense.
It's the only plausible explanation.
I mean, are you seriously telling me that this Veselnitskaya, who's connected to this company backed by backers of Putin, Prevazan, who's representing them in court as their lawyer, meets with Fusion GPS, who are sending the Russian intel onto the DNC through the dossier to set up Trump?
She meets with those same people before she meets with Don Trump Jr.
She's connected to a company, connected to the Russian government, connected to Putin.
She meets with Fusion GPS after the Don Trump Jr.
meeting, and there's zero connection whatsoever between the Russian government trying to cover some of their own interests and setting up the Trump team?
Hmm.
Folks, does that make any sense?
Of course it doesn't.
Now, an outstanding question.
Sorry, I gotta check the time here.
See, now that me and Joe have a different setup, I can stare him.
I gotta switch back and forth sometimes between screens.
All right.
But, you know, before I get to the second question, let me just do this reading, because this is important, because I got a question yesterday.
Joe, did that make sense, by the way?
Yeah, yeah, it was very clear.
There is no smoking gun evidence right now That these two are directly tied to a money trial.
I'm just telling you, laying out the timeline of facts I told you, all of these things that happened.
What is the other?
If you can send me, email me, or tweet me another logical conclusion from that, I'm open, I'm all ears to hearing it.
I am all ears.
None of it makes sense otherwise.
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So yesterday, something happened yesterday in the case.
I got a ton of emails on and I, and, and so, you know, um, how I'm getting all this.
Cause I did get a couple of questions, uh, before I get to the, the, the one I just addressed a couple of email increase came in.
How do you know all this?
Folks, I have a couple really good sources.
One specifically was personally impacted by a lot of what's going on.
I'm obviously not going to tell you who they are, but I've been directed to certain places by certain people who know things.
There are some people who are talking out of their cabooses and don't know what they're talking about.
There are some who have really good sources.
There are some who have good sources but are off on certain things.
I'm getting this fed to me by a number of different people, and especially as the show takes off, they want to make sure this show remains a vehicle to get the truth out there.
So that's how I'm getting all this.
I just want to be sure about that.
I want to be sure you know about that.
So I got a question yesterday.
Why was the Glenn Simpson of Fusion GPS, why was his testimony to Congress leaked?
Now, in case you missed it yesterday, this was a major story.
Don't let this slip by you.
Glenn Simpson, who is one of the Fusion GPS guys, which Fusion GPS, just to be clear, is the company hired by the DNC and Hillary Clinton to go and produce the dossier on Donald Trump, which they get from Russian intelligence sources.
Russian Intel feeds information to Fusion GPS, Glenn Simpson's crew over there.
They then give it to the DNC.
It makes its way to the FBI.
Now, if you've been listening to shows, that's all basic to you, but I just want to make sure we understand what we're talking about there.
So, Fusion GPS, Glenn Simpson, goes up and testifies in front of a Senate committee.
In that Senate committee, the testimony is within those four walls.
It's not supposed to be released, right?
Mysteriously, yesterday, a Democrat on the committee, Dianne Feinstein, releases a transcript of the testimony without going to Chuck Grassley, the chairman of the committee.
Now, I got a ton of questions.
People started emailing me and tweeting me like crazy.
Dan, this doesn't make sense.
If the Democrats are covering for Fusion GPS that got information from Russian Intel and was being paid by the Democrats to do it, and then that information made it to the FBI to attack and sting the Trump team, right?
Yeah.
Why would a Democrat, Dianne Feinstein, release the transcript of his testimony?
Think this through.
Think this through.
Joe, you remember Mike Flynn, Trump's National Security Advisor?
Yes, I do, Dan.
Mike Flynn, if you listen to these shows again, Mike Flynn was charged and pled guilty to a charge by the FBI.
The charge was These 18 USC 1001 false statements made to the FBI.
Now is it starting to come together?
The Democrats, Feinstein included, are in a panic about what I told you over the course of the past three episodes, Joe.
They know exactly what I told you about Uranium One.
Know where you're going.
They know exactly what I told you about the Sting operation.
The ones specifically on this committee.
Not everyone on Capitol Hill is ready to the whole program.
Nunes knows the whole thing on the Republican side.
Feinstein knows this thing is a mess for the Democrats when they find out the level of spying that went on by the Obama administration against the Trump team.
They also know that now that the precedent, Joe, for law enforcement's been set, that false statements for the FBI will be prosecuted and you will be put potentially in jail!
Why now would Dianne Feinstein not notify anybody and against rules and procedures and everything else release a transcript of exactly what the Fusion GPS guy said in Congress?
I'm gonna answer that for you right now and most of you probably already figured it out.
Joe's nodding in approval.
So everyone else called to testify in the future has an exact transcript of how to answer every single question so they're not charged with false statements.
That's it.
Bama-lama-jama.
So if an FBI agent shows up at your door because you know this entire house of cards is coming down, you were involved in Uranium One, you were involved in the spying scandal, all of a sudden you pull up your handy-dandy Glenn Simpson from Fusion GPS transcript.
Question six.
Glenn, how do you feel about the Yankees versus the Mets?
I like the Yankees.
I like the Yankees too, Mr. FBI agent.
Copy that, Roger Dodger?
It's a fair question.
I thought they were trying to hide all this.
They are trying to hide all this.
But if you read the 300 plus page transcript of exactly what Simpson said, You'll find that it makes perfect sense for them to release it.
The critical questions he refuses to answer, the questions he does answer, he answers in a way that completely discredit his entire organization.
Did you verify this?
Uh, well, um, not really.
I mean, it's a mess.
It's a mess.
When it comes to sources?
Uh, well, You know, we're not going to give up our sources, but then he throws out this winner, Joe.
Simpson throws out in the testimony to Congress, to the Senate committee, he says, by the way, a source has already died because we've released information.
That's why we want to, you know, we want to keep our sources.
Really?
What?
A source has already died.
Are you sure about that?
Folks, I got emails about all kinds of I don't want to say conspiracy theory stuff because that left us to use that to its, but all kinds of connections people are making there that I'm not willing, we're not going to do that yet.
I'm not even remotely comfortable with that.
A lot of people email me and said, I know who it is.
I'm going to hold off on that one.
All right.
I don't, I don't, I'm not even remotely comfortable putting it out there.
One, I don't even believe Simpson's telling the truth.
Make it 15 people died.
I mean, we don't know who died.
We have no idea.
I mean, exactly.
A hundred people.
I mean, apparently this guy's got zero credibility.
The entire country was wiped out.
I mean, you'd never know.
But here's the kicker here.
He says something in there, in this 312 page transcript that's released, which is being done.
So everybody has the script, Joe.
Everybody's got the playbook.
Okay.
Yep.
But he says something in there that's killer.
No pun intended.
He says, I spoke to the FBI.
They ask him, well, I should, let me set it up right.
And folks, that's why I'm very deliberate.
I'm not, the pregnant pauses are not for effect.
They have to give you time to digest this.
So you understand this laid out methodically, rationally, and not hysterically.
I mean it.
This is critical.
These are the most important episodes Joe and I have ever done.
I'm being dead serious here.
I know we, Joe and I mess around a lot.
I was born for this case.
I cannot put down... I've been reading non-stop.
By the way, little announcement.
I'm putting together a book on this, Joe.
Alright.
Did I tell you this?
No, you didn't.
I'm putting together an e-book with my co-author Matt Palumbo on this.
It'll be out soon, folks.
So all of you asking me about this timeline, it is all gonna be laid out in a short and sweet e-book coming right to you, baby.
Very cool.
I have not been able to put down information on this.
We have a flowchart of players in this, Matt and I, that looks like a criminal case on a board.
I am obsessed with this case because it is the biggest scandal in U.S.
history.
Getting back to that.
Sorry to get this, but I wanted to put that out there.
So I'll let you know when the e-book's available.
The bribery.
Simpson says at one point that he, because they ask him why he approached the FBI with this information, Joe, if it was unverified.
Remember the information we're talking about.
The dirty dossier the Russians provided on Trump.
That's fake.
It's not true.
So they ask him, why did you give this to the FBI?
He says something that nobody's covering on the news again, and even the people I follow who seem to be reading on social media seem to have missed.
He goes, well, I approached the FBI because the information in there was so damaging that if Trump was elected president, he could have been bribed.
Now this hasn't rung Joe's bell yet because I can tell, but Joe, you and I recorded a podcast about a month ago.
I was in Trump International on a trip.
Yeah.
Remember?
We recorded it early.
Remember the night before because I had to fly out?
Right.
And I said to Joe, I'm really tired and this is going to be a crap show and it was one of the best damn shows we've ever done.
Yeah.
Gosh, I can't remember the date.
Forgive me.
But go back and listen to that show.
I gotta find a date on that baby.
Remember the one we talked about Sally Yates and the Logan Act?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
That show.
I don't remember the name though.
Yeah, either do I, which is killing me.
That was one of the most important shows we ever did and it'll all make sense what I just said if you listen to that show.
Here it is.
I'll sum it up for you.
This was the exact same argument used to bait Mike Flynn.
Joe, I know you, Joe.
Let's just say you and I have a friend, Bobby, right?
Yeah, Bobby, yeah.
If Bobby goes into a local gas station and is under charge for gas, say he buys 20 in gas and pays 19, but it's really not a serious crime police would investigate, but he knowingly pays 19 and he walks out.
Do you really think the cops are going to investigate that?
Let's say the gas station owner doesn't complain or anything.
Nah.
No, right, nothing's gonna happen, right?
And I'm setting this up, I just want to be clear, folks, because I'm trying to give to you that there are things that happen that are in clear violation of the law.
He took 20 in gas, he only paid 19.
But they're not violations of the law anybody cares about, so we don't waste law enforcement dollars as a free society.
And, you know, people jaywalk all the time.
You're breaking the law.
Nobody gets arrested for it.
Why?
Because nobody cares!
Society has deemed this not serious enough to waste taxpayer dollars on, okay?
This is important now.
Is Bobby, Joe and I's friend, who paid $19 for $20 in gas, is Bobby then subjected to bribery by me and Joe if we go up to him and say, Bobby, that gas station owner's my friend.
We found out you paid $19 for $20.
Bobby, turn over your entire business and assets to us.
And if you don't, we're going to the police with this $19 and $20.
Bobby's going to go, have fun, Joe.
Go to the cops about that one.
Good luck.
You're probably saying to yourself now, I don't get it.
You will.
What happened to my- I'm gonna get- I'm gonna lose my place here.
I'm gonna get back to what happened with the bribery thing and Fusion in a second.
But I want you to understand the circular reasoning going on here to cover their asses.
Sally Yates.
Sally Yates, the Deputy Attorney General.
In DOJ.
And known anti-Trumper, the one who was fired by Trump for not enforcing the travel ban, Sally Yates walks into the Trump administration and tells them that they have information on Mike Flynn, the National Security Advisor who's been appointed, they have information on Mike Flynn so bad, Joe, that he could be subjected to bribery.
Now, so bad, wow, what is this?
What do they have on Flynn?
Now, what's Sally doing?
She's covering her butt for all of the surveillance that happened on Mike Flynn in the past.
Now, they were surveilling Mike Flynn and Sally Yates is telling Trump and Pence and everyone else, what is this crime, Joe?
What is this astonishing, outstanding crime that Joe's like, oh my gosh, what happened?
He violated the Logan Act.
He did what?
Son of a... Son of a... Joe's like, what the hell?
Now Joe already knows the Logan Act is nonsense, so the jig is up on him, but...
The gig, too.
But the Logan Act has never been enforced successfully in American history, and no one takes this seriously.
Matter of fact, there's a solid argument to be made that it's not even constitutional.
The Logan Act basically says it's a hundreds of year old statute that nobody has ever prosecuted in U.S.
history.
It is the jaywalking of federal crimes.
It is the paying $19 for $20 in gas of local crimes.
That a private citizen cannot engage in foreign policy with a foreign government.
Why isn't Jimmy Carter in jail for talking to the Palestinians?
Why isn't Jesse Jackson in jail for talking to the North Koreans?
Joe, why isn't Dennis Rodman in jail for going to North Korea?
The answer is because this isn't even constitutional.
Nobody's been prosecuted except Mike Flynn.
Now, to be fair, Flynn was prosecuted for false statements, not for the Logan Act.
But do you understand the analogy here?
Walking into the White House and telling the president that Mike Flynn paid $19 for $20 in gas, therefore we were surveilling your entire team and ran a Trump sting operation, and we're going to put Flynn in jail, is redonkulous!
That's a level above ridiculous!
It's absurd!
It's insane!
He was subjected- Sally Yates made a legitimate case in her- Excuse me.
In her mind, she made an actually illegitimate case that Mike Flynn could be bribed by the Russians because the Russians knew he conducted foreign policy with them in violation of the Federal Jaywalking of Crimes, the Logan Act.
Are you kidding me?
Now is the Simpsons story coming together?
Simpson, of course, knows this show.
He knows the backstory for the Obama team to cover for their spying, to dirty up the Trump team, to make sure they're dirty so they don't investigate the Obama team after they leave office.
He knows the backstory here is all of this was done in violation of the Logan Act, which would have made them susceptible to bribery.
How does Simpson know this?
Because he's already seen the stories!
This is already out there.
The Washington Examiner's done some great work on this.
I think it's Byron York.
York has already exposed this, how Sally Yates used the Logan Act.
Talk about malicious prosecution, Joe.
So Simpson shows up.
Now if you listen to yesterday's show you'll know that the big problem with Simpson
well let me check something here all right here we go the big problem with Simpson
is why the heck were you talking to the FBI?
If you listen to yesterday's show you'll see the problem now the FBI has with Simpson is was Simpson your source and your exclusive source and you failed to verify his info therefore swore on the record for a FISA warrant which I'll get to this in a second that his information was authentic even though you never verified it meaning you lied Or, was Simpson not your source and Simpson was dealing with the press and paying off press outlets to do his both- Both of those stories can't be true.
Either Simpson was paying the press off, that's why they're hiding their bank records, to get this Trump dossier out there and was essentially a political operative working for the Clinton campaign, or he was a legitimate, verifiable FBI source that was not doing that and the information was verified and therefore he was the source of the spying on the Trump team.
Both of those things cannot be true, folks.
An authentic, verifiable, credible FBI source cannot also be paying off media outlets to plant political dirt.
Do you see that?
Do you get what I'm saying?
Joe, does that make sense?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
The FBI would never in a million years be able to go into court and get a FISA warrant saying that their source for the information was paying off the media and being paid by an opposition political campaign to plant dirt on a political candidate.
The judge would lock you up in court.
Right, right, right.
Both of those stories cannot be true.
How does that involve this?
If both of those stories can't be true, Simpson needs an out as to why he talked to the FBI while he was working with media outlets to plant political dirt.
Because then it just looks like he's knee-deep in a conspiracy to spy on a Trump team.
So what does he say?
He's already read the stories about Sally Yates.
Bribery!
That's it!
Bribery!
They're subject to bribery!
For what?
Jaywalking?
Yes!
Jaywalking!
So what does he do?
He walks in to read the transcript of his testimony, Simpson's testimony.
They ask him why he approached the FBI.
Now, before we go forward, Joe, you may say, okay, but you still haven't told us why he really approached the FBI.
In other words, why make this up about the bribery thing?
Here's the kicker.
This is a dramatic pause because I'm telling you this is where the case blows my mind.
I'm willing to bet dollars to donuts he didn't approach the FBI.
That the FBI approached him.
And that is explosive if in fact true.
Now keep in mind.
If Simpson approached the FBI, because they had a working relationship in the past on a different case, it's bad.
But it is catastrophically worse if the FBI approached him already knowing, Joe, he's feeding information, political information, to media outlets to damage Donald Trump.
That's why I believe he's covering and making up this reason about well I had this and his reason again which is which is nonsense is I had this dirty dossier on Trump of unverified crap and he could have been bribed so I but he already read that story about Sally Yates and he's painting himself as some white knight you see Joe look what I was doing I was saving the republic the Russians could have bribed us what on fake information this is nonsense folks now Does that make sense, by the way?
Did I tie that up?
Citizen has to hide how the connection to the FBI was made.
Because if the FBI reached out to him, the first question's gonna be, why?
Why would the FBI reach out to a guy knowingly being paid by the Clintons and getting information from the Russian intel?
I mean, sound like a sting operation to me?
He needs to cover this answer no matter what.
He's already heard the right answer from Sally Yates.
Yeah.
And now every Democrat out there or liberal and attack machine already has the information from Simpson to be sure.
So now, keep in mind, folks, that's why the transcript was released.
Watch in the future as more people are hauled in front of congressional committees and FBI agents.
The growing narrative is going to be, oh, we did all of this because we thought Trump could be bribed by the Russians because we had this information.
That was fake.
That's their cover.
For the biggest question in all four shows now put together.
Why the hell was the FBI in the Department of Justice National Security Division investigating Donald Trump?
You see the circular reasoning?
I've said to you from the start, the most critical question I thought was the dossier, was the FISA warrant, was the dossier used to get a FISA warrant to spy on Trump.
I'm now telling you that's not the most critical question.
The most critical question now is why were people approaching the Trump team in a sting operation?
What started it?
What started it?
Not one person has produced evidence of one predicate crime, not one, that would indicate that the Trump team should have been under investigation.
Not one.
Because this is where we are.
We're starting random investigations against political opponents now?
Not one.
That is why Simpson's covering for that initial contact with the FBI with this nonsense bribery narrative.
And you're going to see this bribery narrative come up again in the future as everybody covers why it started.
The circular reasoning's clear.
Why did it start?
Oh, because we thought Trump could be bribed by the Russians because of the dossier.
Well, how'd you get the dossier?
Right back to the start.
Well, we had an investigation against Trump.
Well, why'd you have an investigation against Trump?
Because we thought he could be bribed by information the Russians had.
Yeah, but how did you know Trump could be bribed?
How did you start the investigation?
Well, we had the dossier.
It goes around.
There's no reason.
It's just one big stupid circle.
Now, here's an interesting question the conservative treehouse guy put out there this morning that I hadn't considered.
We've been operating on the principle the entire time here that there was a FISA warrant from the FISA court, Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court.
These are separate warrants from Title III criminal warrants.
I've told you before, as a former Fed, there is a wire tapping provision.
Wires aren't really tapped anymore.
The way it works is totally different than it used to be back in the day.
But a criminal warrant is different.
You have to exhaust all other avenues, you have to produce a probable cause document, and then I can listen to Joe on his phone if I get that warrant from a judge.
FISA warrants are different.
You have to show you're acting as an agent of a foreign power and you're in violation of federal law while doing it.
Those are separate warrants.
We have been operating on the principle the entire time that there was a FISA warrant issued in October.
October of 2016.
That that FISA warrant was for a computer server in Trump Tower.
It's been widely reported by CNN, by the Washington Post.
Again, I'm not saying they're credible.
I'm just saying that this has been the operating principle that the Obama administration had sought a FISA warrant to spy on the Trump team in October of 2016.
They were denied in June for the same warrant, which is odd, by the way, because they're never denied, which says to me this is a crap case to begin with.
But these conservative treehouse guys posed an interesting question this morning.
What if there was no FISA warrant at all?
Now, I disagree with them on that, and I'll get to my reasons in a second here before we wrap this up.
But before we do that, these guys, I'll tell you what, they link their stuff.
I'll give them credit.
I don't know if they listen to my show or not.
They retweeted it the other day.
But I'm getting various sources who are pointing me to them and to other people and emails they have.
Signal traffic they're giving me and stuff.
It's an interesting point they make.
You have that cut ready, Joe?
Yeah.
This is Jim Clapper, Obama's Director of National Intelligence, who, keep in mind, knows about all of this stuff.
He oversees all the compartmentalized information within the various intelligence agencies of the United States government.
If there's a FISA warrant, just to be clear, if there is a FISA warrant to spy on the Trump team issued in October, he would know about it.
This is Clapper in March of the following year.
Obama's out of office.
He's a civilian now.
On Meet the Press, being asked by Chuck Todd about this FISA warrant.
Now, before we play it, let me be crystal clear.
If there's a FISA warrant, this dude knows about it.
Play the cut.
Let me start with the President's tweets yesterday.
This idea that maybe President Obama ordered an illegal wiretap of his offices.
If something like that happened, would this be something you would be aware of?
I would certainly hope so.
Obviously, I can't speak officially anymore, but I will say that for the part of the national security apparatus that I oversaw as DNI, there was no such wiretap activity mounted against the President-elect at the time, as a candidate, or against his campaign.
I can't speak for other Title III authorized entities in the government or a state or local entity.
I was just going to say, if the FBI, for instance, had a FISA court order of some sort for a surveillance, would that be information you would know or not know?
Yes.
You would be told this?
I would know that.
If there was a FISA court order on something like this.
Something like this, absolutely.
And at this point, you can't confirm or deny whether that exists?
I can deny it.
There is no FISA court order.
Not to my knowledge.
Of anything at Trump Tower?
No.
What?
Now, of course, that was a little Joe Armacost edition at the end, which I love.
Nice job, Joe.
But did you hear that?
Hat tip to those guys at Conservative Treehouse for pulling up that cut, which I've seen, but it's been out there.
But these guys put it together really well.
What the hell?
Jim Clapper, the ODNI director, who would know, says on the, Joe, you heard the cut, says Chuck Todd asked him in no uncertain terms, would you know about it if it was there, the FISA warrant?
Yes.
Does the FISA warrant exist?
No.
Now, the Treehouse guys put out a really cool other clip, which I'm not going to play because it's a little longer, but I'll just sum it up for you.
An interview months later with Don Lemon on CNN, where Clapper says the same thing.
There's no FISA warrant.
And they make an elegant point.
Joe, if Clapper was lying to Chuck Todd, and understands the gravity of what's he believe me he knows the trouble they're in the house of cards is coming down does he return to Don Lemon agree to do a media appearance on CNN number one and then number two go on the air and give the exact same answer months later after he's had time to stew about it if he's lying no if he no hell no he's not gonna say the same lie twice he knows they're in trouble but he said something now you may be saying well Dan I thought you just said there was a FISA warrant now you're saying Clapper said there's no FISA warrant
Here's the out I think he gave himself.
Because folks, here's why this is such a huge issue in this case.
The fact that the Trump team was spied on, Joe, due to a Pfizer warrant, is bad enough.
If the Trump team was spied on without a warrant... Now Joe sees what I'm doing...
When we go live to video, hint hint, on our podcast, big hint, you'll see what I'm doing too.
Holy crikeys.
We not only have the biggest scandal in American history, we have a very solid criminal case.
You can't have both, folks!
Now let me ask two critical questions.
Okay.
Let's assume Clapper's telling the truth and there's no FISA warrant.
Joe, let me ask you this.
If there's no FISA warrant, how the hell did they get their hands on the transcript of the Mike Flynn conversation with the Russian ambassador that they used to prosecute him on false statements?
How'd they get that?
What, somebody have a tape recorder in his house?
It wasn't in his house, by the way, Flynn.
He wasn't even home when the conversation happened.
How'd they get that conversation?
Head scratcher.
Is that a head scratcher?
We haven't used that yet.
Big head scratcher there, folks, you think?
Secondly, on December 7th of 2016, Judge Rudolph Contreras, who was assigned to the Flynn case, the false statements case, Joe, recused himself from the case.
Wait, what?
Why?
Why would a federal judge recuse himself from Mike Flynn's case?
But where does Judge Rudolph Contreras also sit?
On the FISA court.
He's one of 11 judges that sits on the FISA court.
Happened kind of under the radar?
Yeah.
Folks, this is the part where I don't know.
I'm going to tell you what I don't know, but I'm going to put this out there for you to email me and to speculate on themselves.
I got someone calling me today, so I'm hoping to have some more information for you on tomorrow's show, maybe, if not next week, on this question.
Here's the question I'm going to leave you with.
If there was no FISA warrant in this case, and Jim Clapper's telling the truth, how the heck did they get their hands on Mike Flynn's transcript?
And how is Paul Manafort, the wiretap of Paul Manafort, implicated in all of this?
Remember, Clapper's absolutely clear that no member of the Trump team either.
Joe Manafort was a campaign manager, yet it's been widely acknowledged in the press that the wiretap to Manafort had been up and running for a long time.
How did they get their hands on Flynn's transcript if he wasn't being wiretapped?
And how did they get their mitts on Manafort?
How?
If there was no Pfizer warrant?
How is the United States government spying on someone without a warrant?
If Jim Clapper's telling the truth, this case is even worse than I thought.
If Jim Clapper's not telling the truth, this case is even worse than I thought.
Now, one quick thing about Clapper, and this is why I'm skeptical.
You may say, you sound like you're making a case as to why Clapper's telling the truth.
I don't think so, and here's why.
If you go back and rewind the podcast and listen to the clip again, he is conclusive in his conclusions.
Intended that way.
But he's not.
Would you know?
Yes, I would know.
If the FBI had a FISA warrant or tried to get a FISA warrant issued by the FISC, would you know?
I would know.
But then what does he say, Joe?
He says, but I can't speak on behalf of the other agencies.
You just did!
He just did!
Chuck Todd just asked him, would you know about this if there was an outstanding warrant against the Trump team?
Yes, I would know.
He says it twice.
But then he also says twice, but I can't speak for the other agencies.
I think Clapper knows the upper level of the FBI that were involved in this, the anti-Trumpers, had far exceeded their authority and is saying, I'm done with that.
And he knows there's a FISA warrant, but he wants nothing to do with it.
And this is the coup de grace here.
He's doing it because he knows later he could be subjected to prosecution and he wants it on tape later that he knew nothing about this, even though he did.
I'm telling you that's what happened.
That's that I can't speak about the other agencies.
Why put that in there?
This is not a stupid guy.
And why put it out on Meet the Press?
So he can refer back to it and go, hey, I didn't know.
Look what I said on March 20th.
Why go on Don Lemon months later and refer back to your March, whatever, March appearance on Meet the Press and say, I'm just saying it again.
I didn't know.
Why say that if you had nothing to hide?
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People would, publishers would refuse it because it would be so crazy.
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