Benjamin Marino challenges Indo-European dominance by speculating Gautama Buddha was a Scythian prince and the Yellow Emperor named for his hair. He critiques mainstream archaeology for ignoring Linear B connections to the Arthashastra, Sanskrit, and the Book of Enoch due to funding biases. Marino argues Crete was a matriarchal civilization marked by "feminine violence" involving a mother goddess who ate her young, while linking Gobekli Tepe to Atlantean survivors in Africa's "Eye." Ultimately, he suggests historical narratives are manipulated to create a "slave colony insect species," urging listeners to explore his Substack at gildedfleece.substack.com for deeper insights. [Automatically generated summary]
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Bronze Age Herd Mentality00:05:37
I forget his name right now, the Cynic.
And yeah, Lucent Tenebris says that Gautama Buddha may have been a Scythian prince.
And I am inclined in that direction as well.
I also think the Yellow Emperor.
I've heard rumors the Yellow Emperor may have been named after the color of his hair.
Don't know if that's true, but quite frankly, the.
Proto Indo Europeans, that we used to call them by a different name, they keep being connected to just about everything.
So, that's not me trying to.
Like, the.
Ah, you're back.
We're just talking about the.
The Proto Indo European people tend to be connected to most major innovations that happened in history.
And that's not out of all of them, right?
It's not about hating anybody for crying out loud.
Why do we need to create more accomplishments for our ancestors?
The idea that we would feel a sense of inadequacy comparing our history to the history of other places is absurd.
It is, but that's part of the problem is that that's what it looks like right now.
It looks like there's a hesitation to.
Because, like I said, I mean, the stuff I'm seeing now, the other scholars that are actually working in this stuff, they call it proto Greek, which, like I said, it works for me.
But I mean, that doesn't capture the full essence of it.
It's.
It's like referring to the Proto Indo European tribe from the.
What do they call those mountains again?
Referring to them as battle axe culture.
As merely, merely the corded ware culture.
No, what we had is.
We had a really interesting group of people that had very high minded ideals that.
They had a tendency to reject the Asiatic despotism that was very present in the Bronze Age.
Like these people were doing stuff in the Bronze Age, but they weren't living in cities.
They didn't have these giant slave cult religions.
And they pretty much took over the whole world after the Bronze Age collapse.
The wilderness people.
Yeah.
Yeah, and it's not that they were barbarians.
It's more that they wanted nothing to do with the slave cults.
Right.
It's a complicated part of human evolution, right?
Because you can't get everything you want.
Well, you know, one of the things that we're possibly dealing with right now is.
There's an argument suggesting that they're trying to turn that certain interests are trying to turn humanity into a slave colony insect species, right?
Where you have the ruling class that does all the thinking, and you have these obsequious slave castes that are just obedient, unintelligent, and happy to follow orders, happy to be second class citizens, like in a beehive.
Yeah.
So, one of the stories, I don't know if you're familiar with the Masonic story of the beehive.
No, but tell me.
It's something that's kind of surprising, I guess.
Um, surprising to me, anyways, but the story of the Masonic beehive is really the story of any beehive, and that is that the drones, um, you know, the drones are not there for anything but mating with other colonies, and they don't do anything, they're just lazy slobs, all they do is eat, and when there's nothing to do, they just take up a lot of resources.
What happens is every now and again, if the bees are hungry or there's not enough food in the colony, the first ones to go are the drones.
The drones just get tossed out the die.
And I don't know what that story much has to do with Freemasonry, but it's told in Freemasonry.
I don't know why.
But I mean, you can pretty much self infer what it means.
The useless eaters?
Drones Tossed Like Trash00:06:47
Yeah.
So it's not like this stuff is not built into our.
It's built into our subconscious through all the allegories and stories that we have over the millennium, really.
But the idea is there that we will every now and again get rid of useless eaters.
Just because it's not malicious either.
It's just, well, we don't have enough to eat.
Sometimes you need to call the herd.
That's not a very nice thing to say.
I sure as hell.
If anybody tries to call me, I'm going to.
Hi, it barely.
There you go, loaded to bear.
Right.
That's the problem is that who's doing the culling?
What's the rule?
What's the basis for it?
And this is the problem.
I mean, you know, who wants to fight over something like that?
Do you want to do the culling?
I'm not sure I want to do it.
I think anybody that has.
You know, I'm going to be generous.
Okay.
So I'm being super generous.
If you own more than 10 Funko Pops, I think you should be called.
Like, there might be.
Maybe a half like five.
I have some stupid stuff that I've bought, so I don't want to throw stones at me.
If you have more than 10, all right.
All right.
Get in the wood chipper.
That's my favorite disposal.
And I've never played Hitman.
No, no, I'm sure you can dispose of bodies in a wood chipper.
Oh, God.
I just saw this.
Listen, man, I buy free range eggs because I want the animals to have as good of a life as possible, right?
Right?
I just saw a video of, you know how they toss baby chicks into the wood chip?
Oh, yeah, it's horrific.
I mean, it's not that, it's quick.
It's quick, but I mean, it's horrific to watch.
They turn into these blood splatters.
It's just nasty.
I'm at peace with my lust.
I can kill because in God I trust, as the song says.
It's like if you eat chicken, if you eat egg, guess what they do with all the male chickens that are born?
That's 90% of them going the wood chipper.
And Abraxas is the union of all opposites, man.
It's like this is the universe that we live in.
God is experiencing himself as a little chick going into the wood chipper.
Don't know what to tell you.
Yeah, I mean, that part is kind of like, what are you going to do about it?
I don't love that they go into the wood chipper.
I'm not going to point and laugh at them.
Right, but where else are they going to go?
I do believe in treating animals humanely, okay?
It's very important to me.
Yeah.
Humane doesn't mean they don't go in the wood chipper.
Okay.
I mean, that's fair.
I mean, it would be too much to give them, assemble them the device that is now available in Europe that you can just hop in the pod, press a button, and kill yourself.
Hey man, I just work here.
Well, and these.
Yeah, I had a friend that wrote a really interesting article about the cyber demon in Dune.
That there's like demonic horrors, like the demonic horror of Kibbley, of the woodchipper, right?
But like the cyber demon is something like it's like the demonic forces of hell combined with the.
The evil forces of the corporation and technology to create a brand new type of horror.
Yeah.
And we are a third place horror.
Oh, God.
Man, that show was incredibly Jewish, but I will stand by it.
It's the more moral philosophy than most people get in a whole philosophy undergrad.
Yeah.
I mean, it.
Something about that show.
I didn't think I even finished it because by the time they got to the part where the judge was taking them through these wacky diners with killer things on them and they had to hallucinate to not, I don't even remember.
Oh, the IHOP, the International House of Pancakes, Interdimensional House.
That's where they lost me.
Oh, no, I love that episode.
It's like I saw infinite time folding upon itself into a knife blade.
It's like, yes, yes, the time knife.
Can we get on with things?
So, but yeah, that show was great because it does at least invert or throw on its head what people think about what it means to be good.
You know?
My favorite part of that show was like when the demons were talking, it's like, oh, what's that?
That cologne smells great.
It makes me think of limp biscuit and abortion.
It smells like limp biscuit and abortion.
Yeah.
I love that.
That's a proper, you know, what was it like, existential horror, Cthulhu horror?
Yeah.
That's brilliant.
It's, guys, if you haven't seen the good place, watch the good place.
It's, yeah.
It's like the trolley problem episode.
It's like, oh, don't worry.
They aren't real people, but their suffering is.
The people are fake, but the suffering is real.
Well, like the in between place, too.
I really enjoyed the in between place because that really established the fact that despite who you think you are or what you think you are, You can pull off more than you can imagine.
That lady wound up getting her own place.
Matriarchal Mother Goddesses00:14:59
Oh, yeah.
The mediocre.
She wasn't in heaven or hell.
It's just like she was in an okay house, but she only had one okay movie to watch.
And she just basically sat around masturbating all the time.
It was an okay place.
It was okay.
There's nothing wrong with it.
It's a McDonald's hamburger, man.
It's okay.
Right, oh boy.
Well, that's um, we should.
This has been a great stream, we should get things uh tied off.
So, yeah, yeah, tell me, tell me again, uh, in short form, what you've been up to and what you're doing next.
So, mostly, like I said, what I've been up to is tracking these terminology, um, and Comparing it, holding it up to the Arthashastra, because the Arthashastra is one of the oldest documents in really Indian statecraft.
And just like, when's it from?
Like 800 BC or so?
I want to say it's even from later than that.
I want to say it's.
Let me look it up right here, real quick.
It'll tell you.
Yeah, I have no idea how to spell it.
I'm making an edge of most of our books.
From before 500 BCE are gone.
Like, we have like 12 books from before then.
Right.
So, believe me, I just learned how to pronounce it over the last two weeks.
So, the Arthashastra was actually published in my favorite century between the second and third centuries BCE.
So, that point again, that 300 BCE is the central part of my studies, really, because The Bactrian frontier is really what kind of solidified.
I think I'm looking in the tablets right now at a specific tablet that I think may reflect the land deal where the Bactrians negotiated giving land back to the Mora Empire in exchange for a bunch of elephants.
And I believe I found these elephants in Linear B. If it is the elephants, it's got this remarkable stuff on the tablet that combines and really points to the Book of Enoch and the Widows of Freemasonry.
Like, there's a lot of stuff on this tablet that looks like it contains some of our earliest.
So, this is a tablet that is going to be part of like a peace settlement or diplomacy that has like a list of.
Items being exchanged.
Am I grokking that correctly?
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's this tablet that's got all these elephants and grain being separated from everything else.
And it's a very different kind of tablet.
It's a unique tablet in the sense that there's things on there that are unique.
And if you read it in Sanskrit, like I've been reading some of the tablets, it basically alerts you to that this guy is part of Morian.
Royalty.
So there's something.
Is that from?
What landmass?
They're in North India.
They're in North India.
So that's the interesting part that a lot of this stuff between Crete and Mycenae keeps connecting to North India.
And this is about two or three hundred years after Alexander.
Yes.
Yes.
Right.
So Alexander did the big balls thing of conquering the entire world from Greece to India.
And then he got murdered.
And then, so a couple hundred years later, it's yeah, so they got this Mauryan kingdom in India over here for the people, and you got Greece over here in Europe, and there's a.
And so it's like a.
It's wild because if you lose sight of the fact that Persian and Sanskrit are practically identical languages.
It gets a little more confusing.
But if you keep the idea that Persian and Sanskrit are very similar languages, then you see the whole thing play out in common sense, right?
Anaximander comes from Persia to bring the gnomon to Greece.
I mean, that's all happening at this time.
That should be there.
That kind of stuff should also be present in Linear B.
And one of the things that I can't remember.
When is this tablet from?
This tablet is from Linear B.
Okay, so it would be like 1200 BC?
It could be as late as 1000 BC.
The official thing I saw said 1200, but I wouldn't be surprised about that.
These dates are changing.
These dates are changing every day.
Since 2026 began, they've pushed Linear A all the way back to 2000 BCE.
Oh, I believe that without a doubt.
I try to keep track of when they are constantly editing these dates because that's of extreme relevance to me.
Because if they ever get these dates closer to 300 BCE, then I'm really in business.
So that's one of the things that, like I said, I'm obsessed with the 300 BCE corridor because right now, all the stuff that I need to happen is like 800 years apart.
Right, so for the sake of the audience, so 1200 BC, Bronze Age collapse, that's the official date that all writing disappears.
Now, you're suggesting it may have persisted.
And by the way, first of all, Crete was a very, it was not a walled city.
All the other Bronze Age civilizations were like walled cities, heavily reinforced, heavily defensible.
It was like you're just coming out of the city state period.
Right?
So, kind of like when you think about the medieval era with everybody in castles, but not on Crete.
Crete was part of this older matriarchal civilization.
One thing we have to remember about Crete is the earliest stories about Crete tell the stories of Greeks offering children to the labyrinth.
And when you look at it like that, and you internalize what could be going on, and then you look at how Crete was assembled, you might be looking at a Hunger Games kind of atmosphere.
Matriarchy.
This is one of the big things that the.
You probably have heard about bonobos, for example.
Oh, bonobos are.
They just jerk each other off instead of murdering each other.
No, they murder each other all the.
There is always going to be competition between bloodlines.
Yeah.
And there's.
In bonobo society, rather than murder the parents, like rather than murder your rival, you murder their children.
Right.
So bonobos are just as violent, but it's a matriarchal type of violence.
It's abortion instead of gunfights.
Right.
And so, yes, if they are part of this, as I'm positing, and my sand demon backs me up that I'm on the right track.
If I'm positing they're a matriarchal civilization, they've got a mother goddess in charge.
This is well attested to.
Mainstream is all about the connections between whatever the goddess in the Minoan temples was.
And Kibalee.
Absolutely, totally, probably, we're not 100%, but we're pretty sure there's a connection there.
And that is a goddess that eats her young.
Okay, Saturn eats his children.
And as I said, Binah, the mother goddess that eats her young.
It's actually, there's a funny thing.
So Binah is the pillar of severity, which is the pillar, you got Mercury, Mars, and then Saturn.
On that.
And do you know how, like, tough guys, like tough guy sailors, tough guy soldiers, will get a tattoo of, like, mom?
Yeah.
Yes, that is Kibalee.
Right?
The pillar of severity.
It's like mom's the only woman they love.
They're their brutal mother that pushed them into this horrific lifestyle where they can't trust women.
Right.
And look at the same way when we baptize ships or airplanes.
They always get female names.
They never get a male name.
Oh, guns get female names.
My rifle in the military was named Bros.
So, but yeah, this idea that there's only one woman for them.
And it's a dark mother.
So, yeah, Minoan labyrinth children sacrificed to the Minotaur.
Right.
So, I mean, when we're at that point and we're examining the landscape of Crete, I almost am not surprised by Crete not having walls and all that stuff because it looks like the kind of place where something different is going on.
It's that matriarchal civilization where the violence is not masculine violence, it's feminine violence.
Right.
And I should add so you've got the pillar of severity, which is Mercury.
The inventor, the journalist, the doctor, the scientist.
You've got Mars, the warrior.
You've got Saturn or Kibble at the top.
The other is the pillar of mercy.
And this is, you've got Venus, Netzach, you've got like the tradesman, you've got victory.
Then you've got, above that, you've got Jupiter, the expansive masculine principle.
And then at the top, you've got Uranus.
Now, there's, if you want to avoid, if you want to skip the void, which you shouldn't, you need to plunge your face into the, go stare into the abyss, man.
If you want, there's two paths out of it.
One of them goes to Bina, which is the great mother, and that's the lovers.
Right.
The other one is the emperor, which is the patriarchy.
So the patriarchy is very much the pillar of mercy.
Cops that think you should be thankful that they gave you a speeding ticket are walking the path of the emperor.
Right?
Yes.
Andrew Tate is walking the path of the lovers to the pillar of severity.
Right.
So, anyway, just an interesting thing.
Yeah, patriarchy is actually the mercy side.
It's the mother goddess is on the severity side, and yeah, matriarchal cultures are extremely cruel to the innocent.
It's the patriarchy that protects children, right?
There's a deep irony to that, too, um, because you would think it would be the other way around.
Tree of Life is really interesting.
So, anyway, so that's what you're going at.
So, you've been doing more linear B comparisons these days.
You were doing linear A when we spoke a year ago.
Yeah.
And the reason I moved back to linear B was because the problem was, like I said, I found too much Sanskrit in linear A for me to suppose that it wasn't there in linear B.
So, when I went back and found it in linear B, I've kind of stayed there since because it's easier to research linear B because of all the data that we already have than it is to do anything in linear A. Because everything I do in linear A, everyone just goes, okay, well, linear A hasn't been solved.
So you might just be crazy.
But when I do it in linear B, it makes a different impact because linear B is already solved.
So they know what those words mean.
So when I show them that those words are Sanskrit, they go, ooh.
It's a different story.
That's wild, man.
All right.
Do you have any closing thoughts for the stream?
Because we've been going too long already.
It's a great conversation.
Yeah, I know.
So, I mean, I would just close at this point by saying it's a wide open corridor still.
I'm still trying to get a handle on it.
But again, there's.
Enough information already there.
I've already established enough data to say that these Arthashastra correspondences are real.
They defy, at this point, coincidence.
I mean, there's just too many of them for it to be a coincidence.
So, building from that is trying to figure out at what point or where the Indian statecraft manual came in all of this.
Did it come after Linear B?
Did it come before Linear B?
Are our timelines correct?
Those are the things that I'm really concerned with going forward.
You know, I'm gonna.
This isn't a Dark Ages didn't happen type of theory.
This is actually, yeah, it is kind of a little bit difficult to.
Like the mainstream history, mainstream archaeology is doing its best, okay?
It's not.
It is.
It really is.
We're not talking about.
Gobeckli Tepe Cover Up00:06:24
Oh, God, what do they call it?
That.
That Mongol civilization, the Tartaria.
We're not talking about Tartaria, folks, okay?
No.
No.
We're talking about legitimate, we're doing our best, but we're not positive because there's so little.
Like the official narrative is that Ur and Babylon sprang out of nowhere with all of these advanced technologies, like brewing beer, hotels, keeping track of.
Debts, prostitution, temples, religion, all the boom out of nowhere.
When the reality is that it turns out that 6,000 years is about how long it takes anything to break down.
Yeah, that's fair.
There were civilizations before Babylon, we just don't have any evidence of them.
Well, the reality is that if you look at how far Heinrich Schliemann dug to find all the different levels of Troy.
We just don't dig enough.
I mean, digging is expensive.
There are so many archaeological sites that are totally worth investigating that nobody has money for.
Exactly.
Like the.
Who's that ancient aliens guy?
Oh, I don't know his name.
Is it Giovanni something?
No, I think that's the LIDAR guy, I think.
Listen, the LIDAR thing's super interesting.
There may be structures underneath the pyramids, but they also might be natural caverns, so.
Yeah.
The interesting part about that is that when you compare the background structural noise of that.
Of there being water caverns under the pyramids, that fits like a mystery school type of thing that corresponds to Crete.
So if they're using the Cretan labyrinth as an underground kind of watery mystery application, then to find the same thing in Egypt is not a shock.
So we just had Luke's antenna, Light in Darkness number eight.
Said, that's a great name, by the way.
Luke's in Tenebra.
Tenebra is Latin for shadows.
He mentioned the Forbidden Astrology.
So, there's that series that came out a couple years ago about the Forbidden Archaeology.
And, man, it's not forbidden, it's unfunded.
Yeah.
It's.
And I'm not saying there aren't conspiracies.
Like, I am really suspicious about what's happening at Goblecki Tepe.
But it's.
Most archaeologists are not part of the problem.
Okay.
Mainstream archaeology is not part of the problem.
I think there's a cover up at Goblecki.
Do you know about Goblecki Tepe, what they're doing?
I do.
I do.
I've been following it and it's a little shady.
It is a little shady.
They planted trees on the surface that will destroy the parts under them.
Right.
And the question really becomes are these people incompetent or purposely destructive?
Yeah.
And it's.
And with something this special, by the way, Globecki Tepe was built at the exact same time that Plato said Atlantis fell, which is the exact same time as the end of the Ice Age.
I wrote a whole article about it.
I got the global temperatures for you.
I got everything on there, man.
Goblecki Tepe was built by the survivors of Atlantis, okay?
Okay.
I'm pretty sure it was anyway.
It's a wild structure that shouldn't exist.
Here's the part that I don't understand this is the stuff that really bothers me about history.
They say that they buried Gobekli Tepe, and then that's what we're doing.
Like, apparently, the people who made it buried it, and now we're burying it.
Yeah, it was buried.
I don't know why it was buried.
Why are we burying it?
It doesn't make sense.
Like, I mean, if that's what they did, unless the reality is they dug it up and they were like, oh man, we don't want to see that and just put it all back.
I mean, okay, so for the audience, Goblecki Tepe, it's a monolith structure.
Monolith literally means one stone.
A monolith is just a really, really big stone.
And some of the, well, the ancient sites which managed to survive for thousands and thousands of years.
Were built of monoliths.
Yep.
Could be survivorship bias, right?
All the ones that were built of smaller rocks fell over.
Goblecki Tepe is, I want to say, 8,000 years older than Stonehenge.
Am I right on that?
No, no, it's 6,000 years older.
Yeah.
6,000 years older than Stonehenge, and it's way better than Stonehenge.
It's way.
It's much more detailed.
Beyond.
Like, the artistry is way beyond Stonehenge.
Yeah.
Stonehenge is just a bunch of.
Rocks arranged in a very cool way.
This is carved rock with, with, um, it's bigger, it's more deep, there's more stone.
And they've got those, um, those vulture lady carvings on it.
And that's the part that, you know, if you want to connect with the Sybil, that's the part that would connect with the Sybil.
Um, because in the ancient world, there was this notion or idea that connected women and vultures.
Sybil Vulture Connections00:02:37
Um, It's very strange.
Let's see.
Top Hat Jack asks about Atlantis, where it's located.
I kind of lean the Eye of Africa.
Just look up the Eye of Africa.
It perfectly fits the measurements given by Plato.
It looks like it's the exact right size.
And I know it's not beyond the Pillars of Hercules, unless if you went through the Pillars of Hercules, you went south, and then you went up a river delta.
Towards it.
So, you know what's interesting about the Eye of Africa is that if you were following the apocryphal text, the Cave of Treasures, the Cave of Treasures lists its location at the center of the earth, but it spells it C E N T R E.
And, you know, if you're just extrapolating a little bit and you just say the center of the earth might be zero, zero.
You know, the longitude, latitude, zero, zero.
Right.
You get pretty close to the eye of Africa.
I wonder where that coordinate system came from.
Anyway, no, we really got to finish this freaking live stream, man.
Yeah.
So, have you considered opening up a substack?
I have one.
It's gildedfleece.substack.
Oh, fantastic.
All right.
So, let's.
Let me look this up.
Substack.com.
Wait, how do you.
No, we do gildedfleece.substack.com.
Yeah, gildedfleece.substack.com.
How do you spell that?
G U I?
G I L D E D. Gildedfleece.
Right.
All right, so I'm going to toss your.
G I L D E D F L E E C E.
Yes.
Why is that not coming up?
Oh, is it really lacking the HTTPS?
Oh, there's such a pain in the ass about that anymore.
All right, I'm going to search Gilded Least Thub Stack through Google.
Gilded Fleece Substack Link00:02:57
Yeah, you better link it to me.
Okay.
I don't know why they do that.
It's a pain in the ass.
All right, I will send it to you in Facebook.
Perfect.
And I'm going to toss it into the chat.
Because, I mean, like a lot of the details of what you're working on, like I see the technical stuff that you're doing, but it's like looking at programming code, right?
Yeah, it is.
It absolutely is.
All right, hold on.
Or me writing in Latin on the tree of life.
Yeah.
I don't know where this thing went.
Let me see here.
Let's see.
Comments.
Lex Tenebris says there's a book written by Jonathan Gray called Dead Men's Secrets.
It has a ton of archaeological anomalies.
That might really interest me.
Like most of the archaeologists, I get frustrated with especially the early settlers.
They loved the early American settlers loved to find gold carvings of Moses.
In Native American mounds, which are clearly, they're clearly fakes.
There's two possibilities for a gold carving in a Native American mound.
Number one is that it was made locally.
In that case, you're going to see a lot of similar gold.
There's not going to be just one, you're going to see a whole line of items produced.
That back up this one, this particular one.
The other would be that it came from the Middle East by some, you know, ancient sailor that discovered America way before Columbus.
But in that case, it's going to have all the marks of having been made by, I don't know, some Jewish, Phoenician, whatever.
These artifacts are going to fit into context.
Whereas a fake artifact will just be obviously fake.
Authentic Artifacts vs Fakes00:00:54
Yes.
There is the link.
I'm going to toss that in the chat.
All right.
Well, that's been absolutely fantastic.
Do you have any last words for the audience?
No, I really appreciate you having me on the show again, though.
It's always a good time.
Always a good chat.
I was hoping we were only going to go for an hour and a half, but I know.
Great chat.
Guys, thanks for listening.
I hope it's been engaging.
We're kind of all over the place, but I mean, that's the nature of the beast.