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| What is going on guys? | ||
| This is Tate Brown here holding it down. | ||
| We are back for another installment of Across the Pond only on the Culture War, except tomorrow's episode will be on Connor Tomlinson's channel. | ||
| Unbelievable. | ||
| Really changing things up here. | ||
| And this is the last time you'll probably see this set. | ||
| If you've seen what's going on at Timcast, it's like it's like the Matrix coming to the office. | ||
| I'm having to duck and dive and get my Riot Shield out. | ||
| I have to use the Riot Shield loadout right now. | ||
| I'm taking up a very valuable secondary spot in my toolbar. | ||
| But what are you going to do? | ||
| You know, it's the world we live in. | ||
| Connor, how's it going, man? | ||
| Yeah, good. | ||
| I thought you were going to have the juggernaut suit on when you came and sat down. | ||
| I only came equipped with like dual-wheeled FMGs. | ||
| I might have got scavenger on something to run out real quick. | ||
| Oh, the more innocent days when we were sitting there wasting hours saying slurs on Call of Duty. | ||
| Take me back. | ||
| Take me back. | ||
| Yeah, now we can't take tiles on YouTube. | ||
| It's heartbroken. | ||
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It's the woke left, won't left on YouTube. | |
| Yeah, I know. | ||
| Yeah, I know. | ||
| I was thinking the other day about like, you know, there's all these gun laws, all these gun restrictions coming into place. | ||
| And I'm wondering, you know, what those guys over at Palantir are cooking up. | ||
| I'm wondering if we will finally get a pack-a-punch in real life. | ||
| That's what really excites me. | ||
| It's been percolating in my head, this idea, you know, bringing the pack-a-punch to the real world. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| That sounds really exciting to me. | ||
| Yeah, I can't wait for all of the on every street corner, all of like quick revive soda cans. | ||
| It'd be fantastic. | ||
| And then when obviously the apocalypse inevitably hits after the civil war that Tim's been predicting for years now, you can trade in the bottle caps. | ||
| It's true. | ||
| You know, when you really think about Hinduism, kind of, it's kind of like COD in a little way with the revive. | ||
| Really, you respawn in many ways. | ||
| And that's kind of exciting to me. | ||
| Maybe the Hindus, you know, I wish they were right because that would be really something if you could just respawn like a team deathmatch or something. | ||
| I guess that would be more the Middle East would be sort of a COD lobby in many ways. | ||
| But unfortunately. | ||
| What was it? | ||
| Dead Man's Hand that part. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| To get arrested for saying that in my country. | ||
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I just don't care anymore. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, they had a dead man's switch. | ||
| We invaded their countries and they just sent them all here. | ||
| So what are you going to do? | ||
| With that, on that note, obviously this show we talk about the affairs of our countries. | ||
| It's very pertinent, the diaspora of the Middle East. | ||
| But we're taking a break from immigration. | ||
| We talk immigration a lot on this show. | ||
| We have a variety of topics today. | ||
| On tap, we're going to break down the Tyler Robinson trial. | ||
| Obviously, it kicked off yesterday. | ||
| There's a lot of discourse around it, a lot of drama to say the least. | ||
| I mean, it really is. | ||
| This is really probably one of the most high-profile cases, certainly of the 21st century, but possibly American history. | ||
| So everyone's got a close eye on it. | ||
| So we're going to sort of break down that first day. | ||
| And more importantly, we're going to break down Tyler Robinson himself and sort of how does a Tyler Robinson come about? | ||
| What creates a Tyler Robinson? | ||
| We also are going to cover the Fuentes and Piers Morgan interview, which you probably saw the clip circulating. | ||
| And then we also had a thread posted by an Enon Solianath. | ||
| I hope I'm pronouncing that correctly. | ||
| And he expressed some serious, serious, hot nuclear takes on the dating and sort of the sexual dynamics between the men and women, obviously. | ||
| And he breaks it down and there was a bit of a pile on, but we want to analyze what he had to say and see if there's something there. | ||
| Maybe there is some, maybe this was a truth nuke after all. | ||
| Who knows? | ||
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| With that, we'll get into our first story here. | ||
| Obviously, yesterday, well, this would be yesterday. | ||
| We're filming on Friday, so when you see this, it'll be Saturday. | ||
| So Thursday was the opening of the, you know, the Tyler Robinson trial. | ||
| Obviously, everybody has been keeping an eye on this. | ||
| Everyone on the right, obviously, wants to see the entire book thrown at this guy. | ||
| Charlie Kirk being perhaps the most high-profile political assassination, not just in the United States, but globally of the 21st century in many ways. | ||
| Certainly in the United States. | ||
| There's no doubt about that. | ||
| And so Tyler Robinson obviously was brought into court yesterday. | ||
| It was his first physical court appearance. | ||
| This was in Provo, Utah. | ||
| And he previously had attended some of these hearings remotely. | ||
| So this was his first time in the courthouse. | ||
| And he appeared in civilian clothes. | ||
| And then obviously the prosecutors are seeking the death penalty. | ||
| He's being charged with multiple counts, including aggravated murder, obstruction of justice, witness tampering, and a violent offense in the presence of a child for the September 10th shooting at Utah Valley University. | ||
| And the interesting thing, the debacle right now is obviously there were cameras in the courtroom yesterday. | ||
| They temporarily would halt the cameras when rules were broken. | ||
| But obviously Tyler Robinson's legal team is pushing for this not to happen. | ||
| They don't want to turn this into a spectacle, which it's going to be. | ||
| Like I said, this is the most high-profile assassination of the 21st century in the United States. | ||
| They'll say at least in the United States. | ||
| So his defense is pushing for limited media access. | ||
| Obviously, the entire media, left, right, center, whatever wants to be in that courthouse because, again, this is unbelievable. | ||
| This is really going to be a landmark, landmark case in many ways. | ||
| So they're fighting. | ||
| They're pushing hard for access and transcripts of certain hearings and these sorts of things. | ||
| So right now, the judge is weighing how open proceedings will be. | ||
| And the fact that Robinson is wearing civilian clothes but remains restrained sort of shows the judge is trying to balance things. | ||
| He's trying to balance transparency with fairness. | ||
| So with that, Connor, what are your thoughts on this trial so far? | ||
| Obviously, there was the clips going around of Tyler sort of smirking throughout the trial. | ||
| The debate has been, is Tyler Robinson just a crazy person? | ||
| Is he just a psychopath? | ||
| Obviously, he's a psychopath, but is he just a crazy person? | ||
| It's not all there? | ||
| Or is this someone that actually is cold and calculated and knows exactly what he's doing? | ||
| Well, first of all, I was, for one, shocked. | ||
| There were no men in maroon t-shirts, beekeepers, or representatives of the Egyptian military in attendance. | ||
| So I'm sure the court is missing a trick there. | ||
| No head taps or watch taps or anything. | ||
| It was wild. | ||
| Yeah, nobody disappeared through a trapdoor. | ||
| Nobody had a flight to catch back to Cairo. | ||
| Fucking hell. | ||
| No one invented. | ||
| I'm sure Ian Carroll will be on it by tonight. | ||
| So I did see Pozzo pointed out the conspicuous colors of Tyler Robinson's tie, though, not to get conspiratorial, but it was baby pink and blue. | ||
| So, immediately just wearing a trans flag on his tie, interesting choice. | ||
| And there's also the remorseless grin on the face of a man who has probably the least trustworthy physiognomy I've ever seen in his life. | ||
| Like, it's weird to have your chin and your forehead be like equidistant from your facial features. | ||
| It's very strange. | ||
| I wonder if any of his bedroom habits caused said chin to be so recessive. | ||
| But, you know, still allegedly. | ||
| But I think at this point, considering his own dad turned them in, and his printer found him a gun, and we've got his Discord messages, not just from the FBI, but actually, there was a really good substack piece by Anonymous Bird that Poso had posted on his ex from a third-party source that was in the same Discord server that went through all of the posts that Robinson and Twiggs had made from his own phone. | ||
| So we've got it externally verified: photos of his house, you know, all these texts and photos of the squalid conditions they were living in with like temu trinkets and used condoms littered everywhere. | ||
| I think it's pretty fair to say that Robinson was the shooter and that the motive seems to have been a defensiveness because his degenerate, gender-bending, furry lifestyle was implicated in Charlie Kirk's perfectly reasonable observation that you can't change sex by thought. | ||
| And he took that personally, of course, and killed. | ||
| Probably, this is probably other than if Matthew Thomas Crookes, who again, lots of questions surrounding him there that the FBI still haven't answered, and his fascination with Muscular Woman on DeviantArt. | ||
| Other than if Thomas Crookes had succeeded in blowing Trump's head off, this is probably the highest profile political assassination in world history for sheer number of eyes and people's ability to cover the ensuing trial. | ||
| Because obviously, you know, John Wicksbooth shot JFK, not JFK, Lincoln, then there's JFK assassination. | ||
| You've had a bunch of political assassinations, but just sheer numbers of people who watch Charlie Kirk, especially because he wasn't a president, it's astronomical how many people are paying attention to this. | ||
| And also, you've got the compounding factor of then the media circus of people like Ian Carroll or Candace Owens making already disproven and outlandish claims to millions of people and turning it into a true crime drama or a soap opera and causing people to mob Erica Cook and Turning Point employees and even Tim for implying that they're somehow in on it. | ||
| That every government you could name, Brigitte McCrone, the CIA, MKUltra, every conservative influencer, Charlie's own wife, were in on killing him rather than this guy who got a bit upset that Charlie Kirk insulted his trune lover. | ||
| And I actually think my great worry, because obviously, you know, I've been following all the coverage that's come out from the Tim Cost compound because I love you guys and I hope that you're safe. | ||
| My great worry is this trial doesn't put it to bed. | ||
| You're still going to get people that have been driven to a form of psychosis because they've been watching all sorts of conspiratorial content by people that don't know what the hell they're talking about and don't have the humility to say otherwise. | ||
| And they're never going to accept the verdict. | ||
| Even though they're living with the performative contradiction, by the way, of not campaigning for Tyler Robinson's release. | ||
| Have you noticed that? | ||
| How none of them are raising money for like a family or they're saying, free him, he's the wrong man. | ||
| It's actually, you know, Muhammad from the Egyptian military. | ||
| Like, none of them are doing this. | ||
| They kind of know that they're making a lot of money off of this spectacle and driving people to the point of literally schizophrenoid delusion. | ||
| And I don't think that they can't walk that back. | ||
| And so all they can do in the aftermath of this is double down and present themselves as the only credible source on the one truth that nobody's telling, even if Robinson does get convicted. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, I mean, I made this point. | ||
| I'd actually spoken to Oron McIntyre a few days prior on the noon live. | ||
| He'll be joining us tomorrow if you guys are interested. | ||
| It's going to be a great show. | ||
| But I made the point to him that what we're kind of seeing here is we've seen in right-wing media, the sphere, we've seen sort of this Mr. Beastification of content where the actual depth of the arguments has been watered down in favor of just surface-level polemics. | ||
| And it's very loud. | ||
| The graphics are very colorful. | ||
| The thumbnails are AI over the top, these sorts of things. | ||
| That indicates a sort of a Mr. Beastification of political, of polemics. | ||
| But now we're seeing sort of this new wave, which is the Netflixification of polemics in which, you know, it's people you named, Candace Owens, Ian Carroll, these sorts of people, is they're actually trying to string together a narrative and they have to sort of one up the previous the previous story, the previous, you know, fact that they disclosed. | ||
| And that's just a really dangerous thing because the only way they're going to be able to maintain their audience is continuing to escalate the story and make it more dramatic and it would have a deeper web. | ||
| So with that, I mean, we have that side of things. | ||
| Michael Knowles made this point on a show yesterday, and it's a really good point. | ||
| And it's something that I think needs to be made because I think the right would be better off coming to grasps with this reality. | ||
| And the point that he made is that political assassinations work. | ||
| And again, that's not something people want to hear. | ||
| We want to pretend like, look, we can just pick up where he left off and we can band together and unite and hit him stronger than ever. | ||
| But there's a reason that they assassinated Charlie Kirk. | ||
| They wanted to take him off the board. | ||
| He was, I've said it before on the show, he was the quarterback of the MAGA movement. | ||
| And we're in a significantly worse place as a movement without him. | ||
| And like Michael Knowles said, it's a very salient point is that political assassinations work. | ||
| And that's just the reality of the situation. | ||
| Yeah, and it's also very easy for someone to, and don't get me wrong, we both have our criticisms of the administration not going far enough on certain issues, but we've also praised, especially the stuff they're doing in the State Department for the Anglosphere in Europe. | ||
| But it's very easy for people who do basically have an evac, like, not being funny, and I've met George Farmer. | ||
| He's a very nice chap, but he's very wealthy and he lives in Britain. | ||
| If anything ever goes wrong, Candace Owens can just pick up and move elsewhere. | ||
| So she doesn't actually have to give a damn about the midterms. | ||
| She can just give a damn about her own YouTube channel. | ||
| Whereas people who are rooted in their states, like, you know, you guys in West Virginia and me here in London, we actually have to stay and fight. | ||
| And we have to substantiate our claims. | ||
| We've got a lot higher of a barrier to entry to actually get things done rather than just turn everything into making a murderer or some great drama. | ||
| And in terms of the doubling down, you're correct because pretty much every TV show that has been major in the last decade or so, perhaps except for Breaking Bad, has ended really poorly because they don't know how to stick the landing. | ||
| Whether it's Stranger Things or Game of Thrones, none of them have known how to pull it off. | ||
| And so instead, they often just drag it on well past their soul by date. | ||
| And this is where, was it Cheers originally that the phrase jumping the shark came from, where they got so absurd with their plots that they ended up having him jump over a shark tank on a motorbike. | ||
| And people say that happens happy days. | ||
| Oh, is it happy days? | ||
| That would be a happy days, yeah. | ||
| Yeah, so it was just, it run on too long. | ||
| And I think you're going to end up seeing that, where the claims just get so absurd and they continue to run on too long. | ||
| But I think, and God forbid I be an optimist, I think this might actually be quite useful because we've had this op going on for quite a while, right? | ||
| It was woke right, and now it's Groyper, and it's any slur that's thrown out to try and clean house on this new ragtag coalition that won Trump, the White House, for a second time. | ||
| They're trying to basically use the old containment tactics that they used against Sam Francis or during the Fusionist era, William M. Buckley, against Pat Buchanan. | ||
| And this time, I think it might happen in the inverse. | ||
| Like you might have a healthy cleaning house of people who do actually do their own research, who are talented, who are credible, who go, No, you've been trying to tar us with the schizo conspiratoid brush for a long time just because lots of conspiracy theories turned out to be right, you know, during COVID and the like. | ||
| And instead, these people are going to so discredit themselves by pandering to a massive third world audience or bored housewives that want the Charlie Kirk assassination to be actually a tragic tale of two lovers torn apart by multiple governments and secret transsexual or something. | ||
| And instead, you can they will discredit themselves and cut them adrift. | ||
| And the one encouraging thing of all of the voices of reason, as Tim has said, has been Fuentes coming out multiple times and saying, if they kill Ben Shapiro, would you blame Israel too? | ||
| There's no evidence here. | ||
| Like, Ian Carroll was tweeting that, oh, you worked for the Jews that killed Jesus about three or four days before Charlie Kirk was killed. | ||
| And now you're coming out and saying he was about to flip, bro. | ||
| The IDF and Mossad probably shot him with a thousand-yard gun. | ||
| Like, what the fuck are you talking about? | ||
| And so it does mean that we're going to have a sort of an organic season change on the faces and figures that are involved in right-wing discourse. | ||
| And it might be that the people that actually come equipped with citations and sources and reading ahead of time win out against people that just, you know, pull the threads between various pictures and form the Charlie Day photo from It's Always Sonny. | ||
| Yeah, well, that's actually a really great point. | ||
| I mean, because I think we're seeing two filters at play here. | ||
| The first filter, I think, came around. | ||
| It started obviously with Trump one, with the Never Trumpers, but a lot of them were kind of laundered back into the movement. | ||
| But then it was when DeSantis ran, they just jumped right back onto the Never Trump train. | ||
| And this isn't to disparage the people that laid out really good case for DeSantis. | ||
| I'm personally loyal to President Trump, but there were some people that, you know, they made a compelling case and they believed in DeSantis, or perhaps they're Floridians. | ||
| That's a very valid reason as well. | ||
| But there was a large segment of the pro-DeSantis crowd who were just simply waiting for the first option to get off the Trump train. | ||
| And they pulled the lever, the eject, they pulled the ejection cord. | ||
| So that was the first filter. | ||
| And I think that's been really useful because it's sort of siphoned off a good chunk of conservative media who the most gratuitous explanation are counterproductive. | ||
| They're just constantly punching right, et cetera, et cetera. | ||
| These are your James Lindsay types. | ||
| And the American public, specifically the conservative sphere in the United States, has sort of learned to just ignore these people and they've been completely discredited because they're wrong about everything. | ||
| This includes your Bill Crystals. | ||
| You know, you name it. | ||
| There's quite a few people in this wing. | ||
| And those people were occupying quite a bit of space on the right. | ||
| They had a lot of resources, a lot of influence, name recognition, etc. | ||
| And so pushing those guys out of the way has created a vacuum on the right. | ||
| And it's been filled simultaneously by some really solid people, but unfortunately also some crazy people or people at the very best, at the very least, are just also wrong from a different perspective. | ||
| And now we're seeing a second filter following, I would say, October 7th, the October 7th attacks, where people just learned about different critiques of Israel for the first time in their lives, and it just completely one-shotted them and it became their entire goal in life is just to tie everything to Israel. | ||
| Again, it's frustrating, I think, in our sphere as Zoomers who have been, you know, you and me and probably a good majority of the people watching who have been wonks from a young age. | ||
| Zoomers, obviously, by and large, are fairly disillusioned with Israel, or at least the relationship with Israel. | ||
| And so, you know, we've been discussing these things at length for years, laying out, you know, what this relationship should look like. | ||
| You know, what should our, you know, what should our geopolitical strategy be when it comes to the Middle East? | ||
| October 7th happens, and you basically have all of these schizophrenics storm in, immediately adopt all these talking points, and then take it to the extreme. | ||
| And then they call you a Zionist shell for saying, like, hey, no, you're spurging out. | ||
| That's like, that's retarded on the face. | ||
| And they turn around and call you that. | ||
| And it's like, you just showed up here yesterday. | ||
| Before October 7th, you were like a full-blown Zion. | ||
| I mean, Candace Owens. | ||
| Like, hello. | ||
| Like, before October 7th, you know, maybe, I don't know specifically when her first sort of take on Israel came out, but certainly in her turning point days, she was a vocal advocate for the state of Israel. | ||
| So it's just ridiculous. | ||
| And I think it's creating this second filter now, again, for people on the right who have their head on their shoulders and are fairly solid in their convictions, are seeing that this sphere of people are also fairly counterproductive. | ||
| They're ankle biting at the Trump administration, who I correctly see as sort of our last ticket, our last option, our last viable option. | ||
| Again, if Trump fails, it's pretty much over. | ||
| So the fact that now these people are being exposed and this filter, some people on the right that are, you know, kind of wising up are realizing like, yeah, the filter is here. | ||
| And that's where like Nick Fuentes comes into the fold here, where he's coming out and he's saying like, no, these Tyler Robinson conspiracies are ridiculous. | ||
| This guy, by all evidence that we have available to us, killed Charlie Kirk. | ||
| There's not too much questions left. | ||
| I mean, there's still some, I'll grant, but by and large, it looks like Tyler Robinson did kill Charlie Kirk. | ||
| And Fuentes, you know, has said, like, this is ridiculous. | ||
| Like, what are we doing here? | ||
| How is this productive? | ||
| Not everything is about Israel. | ||
| So there's a lot of guys who have previously been ostracized that I think are seeing the pathway for sort of rehabilitation in many ways. | ||
| And they're taking that. | ||
| Again, because I think that's that second filter is being set up to further tighten the ranks of the conservative commentariat and provide commentary to people on the right that is consistent, that tracks, that's grounded in reality, but also isn't just conceding on everything like your Bill Crystals and these sorts of things where they'll use one data point to justify flooding the country with as many immigrants as they can fit in. | ||
| Yeah, I think the important point here is that Israel has become the sort of friend-enemy distinction for a lot of people. | ||
| And last time I was on Oron Show about a week or so ago, discussing Piers Morgan's crash out over Curry with Tucker Carlson, we said that actually it's not, because you can have substantive criticisms of Israel and you can also oppose the Palestinians because 30% of them support suicide bombing and that's like the largest population of anywhere on the earth and they don't exactly like white people very much. | ||
| But if you are so focused on an external issue that your answer is not our people, our interests, then you've been misguided, right? | ||
| So, I mean, for me, the friend-enemy issue is demographics, immigration, culture, identity, ethnicity, etc. | ||
| And that's unquestionable. | ||
| And this is coming from, as you said here, like we've been politicos for a number of years. | ||
| We're Zoomers, so we're not wedded to the post-war taboos. | ||
| If anything, we reject it because we understand that a preference for our people, our history, our heritage, our culture, our nation does not make us Adolf Hitler. | ||
| And we're bored of being told that. | ||
| And the very fact that he's become secular Satan is an excuse to hit us with inexpungible racial guilt. | ||
| And the only time we can have a collective identity is when it's negative. | ||
| So, you know, fuck you. | ||
| That's our attitude to that. | ||
| And we've actually both been to Israel on the sort of various trips, and we weren't magically won over by the sales pitch that like Ted Cruz says, which is, you know, if Israel falls, then so does America. | ||
| It's, you know, we have a religious duty. | ||
| It's like, no, it's a country like anywhere else. | ||
| And if they have undue influence over our politics, they should be repudiated. | ||
| And if they're allowed to defend their own people and have a nation for their own interest. | ||
| Cool, whatever. | ||
| Don't care. | ||
| I just want that for my own people. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| And if you don't, if I think if you don't have that approach, which I think, despite some of the insulting things that Fuentes has said about Jewish people that have got their hackles up, I think that is his approach. | ||
| I think that's become the dividing line. | ||
| And now this is why he's sort of broken away from people that he was lumped in with for a very long time to become a pretty prominent voice. | ||
| And I think the other people that have discredited themselves, they're engaged in political discourse, not because they see this as a kind of bringing the team together in a huddle to work out what the strategy is to win the game. | ||
| Like you said about Kirk being a quarterback, right? | ||
| His ambition was to move the ball down the field. | ||
| This is something that Doyle talks about all the time. | ||
| And you might not agree with everyone on the team, but you do need to get the team together for everyone to play their part. | ||
| And so I think that whether it's Nick, whether it's Doyle, whether it's us, we don't see this as an eternal conversation. | ||
| We're not bought into the liberal lie of everything can be resolved via debate. | ||
| No, we're trying to... | ||
| This show takes a lot of things for granted that our viewers already agree with. | ||
| And so we're discussing the news of the day in light of our pre-existing priors that we're bringing to bear on the conversation to say, how do we interpret these news stories? | ||
| And what do we do about the problems facing our respective countries? | ||
| This is basically like an open-air strategy meeting. | ||
| Whereas, as Auron said in his interview with you, which is very good and everyone should go watch, by the way, for Candace and Ian Carroll and all the other people, it's Netflix. | ||
| You are just a character in their drama. | ||
| Your death is a plot point. | ||
| The fall of the country is just a cliffhanger about which they will make a whole other season. | ||
| And they've already got the budget for it in mind. | ||
| So these people are not engaged in the same conversation as you. | ||
| They're not engaged in how do we fix our country? | ||
| How do we solve these problems? | ||
| These people are engaged in theater. | ||
| It's a circus. | ||
| It's a sideshow. | ||
| It's a distraction. | ||
| And so the dividing line will end up being not just credibility, not just are you serious on these given issues while also having a broad perspective on things like foreign policy and the like. | ||
| It is, are you in this seriously? | ||
| Are you in this to basically feed talking points to risk-averse politicians to popularize issues and force issues that they have to confront? | ||
| Are you in this to normalize certain conversation topics, to come up with policy ideas? | ||
| Are you in this to raise the awareness and the identity of the left-behind constituencies of our countries to then not just vote once every four or five years, but also get involved in politics, you know, take up positions in NGOs and in local government and in various congressional or parliamentary staff positions to influence policymakers. | ||
| Are you engaged in that enterprise? | ||
| Like actually practically doing things? | ||
| Or are you sitting there saying, tune in tomorrow for the next bombshell? | ||
| I just got an email or a dream or a vision from Hari Krishna telling me that Charlie Cook was betrayed by his grandparents. | ||
| Like, just, okay, cut this shit out. | ||
| We have things to do. | ||
| Yeah, it's people that don't realize what the stakes are. | ||
| Or perhaps even more sinister, they do realize and they actively are participating in this because they know they can capitalize on this demise. | ||
| And I think that's the most pernicious part about it all. | ||
| Because someone like Candace Owens, I imagine she has received over the years quite a few threats, I would imagine, as everyone in the commentary space at the highest level has. | ||
| So in her case, Ian Carroll, no one cares. | ||
| I mean, he's probably gotten nothing, but Candace Owens, you know, she's been high profile for quite a long time, and her vocal support for Donald Trump obviously put a target on her back, as it did for everyone else in the space. | ||
| So she understands probably, I would assume, the stakes of what's going on. | ||
| I would hope that she understands that, again, I'll say it again, Donald Trump really is sort of the last stand. | ||
| I mean, we ran out of time like 10 years ago. | ||
| So this is like already a big lift from this movement. | ||
| And anything that's actively undermining it is just nonsensical. | ||
| Quickly on that, as far as solving problems and the assassination having worked, I wanted to tie those two threads together. | ||
| In the interest of solving problems, let's be clear here to, again, our audience who are broadly supportive of the Trump administration and are definitely glad that he won the last election compared to the alternative. | ||
| The Trump administration really have made good on that meme that was being circulated in the aftermath of Kirk's murder, where it said, we are going to do absolutely nothing to you. | ||
| They've done nothing. | ||
| Like, they've declared Antifa a terrorist organization, right? | ||
| I know there are people behind the scenes. | ||
| Like, there are our guys working in the administration quietly, trying to document all of Antifa's international activity. | ||
| I've made a video in the last week that has been, it's made its way to DC, pointing out that Hope Not Hate, which is a self-described anti-fascist, you know, communist doxing organization that dox Roareg nationalists, that has defamed me, there's attacked politicians and put people in the firing line of jihadis, has links to the intelligence agencies and the sitting government, and they get funding from the Home Office and they're protected by the police and they've skirted the law, all these things, | ||
| and they're feeding information to Swedish Antifa networks and have gotten people attacked before. | ||
| So, you know, they should be putting these things on their radar, but nothing's been done. | ||
| They haven't been rolled up. | ||
| Their funding hasn't been seized and redistributed back to the families of those affected, like Aaron Danielson or the Kirks. | ||
| Like, nobody's been cracked down on yet. | ||
| I understand that people are still mourning. | ||
| I understand that there's quiet work going on in the halls of power, but people have to see results. | ||
| You're not going to save the Republic with hype edits and pissing off Sabrina Carpenter. | ||
| It's just not good enough, right? | ||
| You need to start cracking down on these people because people are getting killed. | ||
| And nobody knows, you know, the police are still investigating, I'm sure, why some nutjob fired three shots at Tim's compound. | ||
| But it's not a non-zero chance. | ||
| It's yet another disgruntled leftist who feels empowered about the fact that Charlie Cook's assassination seems to have been a success for everyone except Tyler Robinson, who's currently on trial. | ||
| But all the people that celebrated it, all of the copycats that are going to come forward, like these people will be allowed to get away with it if the Trump administration doesn't act. | ||
| And they need to act to prevent further Charlie Cooks. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, I know the foreign terror organization listing gave the DOJ some toys to play with as far as I won't speculate because some of its insider information, but some of the options that they have at their disposal, it certainly has expanded the purview of that. | ||
| And that is true. | ||
| And that's being communicated Communicated to me, and I understand that. | ||
| I am happy with that. | ||
| And like you said, the administration has a lot of patriots working in there, and they're actively working to save this country. | ||
| There's no question about that. | ||
| But I agree with your point, which like let's communicate that to the American people through arrests and through seizures rather than hearsay coming from people on the hill. | ||
| It's just not good enough, especially because on the immigration side, they're publicizing all their victories to the point, like you said, where we have hype edits and TikToks and that sort of thing. | ||
| And, you know, I think the reason people are growing frustrated at that is like that would be great if that was just like on the side and we had that in all of the sort of we would have edits of all of the goals of the Trump administration. | ||
| Unfortunately, we're just not there. | ||
| And the thing about leftist violence, political violence, is the situation is still unraveling. | ||
| The Republic is still dissolving in many ways and it's going to ramp up. | ||
| And if you don't create that environment of fear, which, you know, to be fair, on the immigration side, part of the reason you're seeing so many self-deportations is because the Trump administration has created an environment that is quite hostile towards people ripping off the American people using or exploiting our immigration systems. | ||
| But you have to create that environment with the political violence situation. | ||
| I mean, you have to create an environment where you would be absolutely petrified to take shots at the compound of Tim Pool. | ||
| That wouldn't even occur to you because you would be so petrified of the state coming down on you with the full force. | ||
| And the fact that that's not the environment that's been created, it shouldn't be terribly difficult either, especially considering the options that the Biden administration used against right-wingers for doing far, far less. | ||
| I mean, like, you can just look at January 6th and you knock over a lamp and you're getting thrown in solitary. | ||
| So, I mean, it's absolutely ridiculous that the Trump administration isn't able to get this communicated to the American people. | ||
| Like, hey, we're on it. | ||
| We're on it. | ||
| That needs to be a priority because, again, people, you know, not to big up to these guys, but people look up to Tim Poole for his commentary. | ||
| I've always said for years that Tim Poole probably has the best conversion rate of libertarians to MAGA. | ||
| I think there's something to be said about that. | ||
| There's a lot of people that really value Tim Poole's insights. | ||
| He kind of does bring a different perspective to the table, sort of being in many ways kind of a disaffected liberal. | ||
| And a lot of people resonate with that. | ||
| And the left knows that. | ||
| The left knows that. | ||
| Again, they understand that assassinations do work. | ||
| And that's why the Trump administration is getting on top of this because we can't lose these guys. | ||
| Because when you lose these guys, it just creates a vacuum. | ||
| And typically, it gets filled with opportunists, people that can capitalize on the situation, as we're seeing with Candace Owens. | ||
| So with that, I think we should jump into our next story. | ||
| This story obviously is doing the rounds on Twitter specifically. | ||
| But I will say, where it's really seemed to dominate is my Instagram reels. | ||
| I don't know, Connor, if you've noticed, but Instagram Reels has really become a wild west in recent weeks, really recent months. | ||
| It's like every other reel I get is like slurs and like Agartha edits and everything. | ||
| It feels like a total containment breach. | ||
| But on top of that, what I'm getting constant Instagram reels for, and I know this isn't targeted at me because everyone else is saying the same thing, is clip after clip from the Nick Fuentes, Piers Morgan debate. | ||
| Now, obviously, Fuentes is kind of, he's kind of, he's on a hot streak right now. | ||
| His Tucker Carlson interview obviously went mega viral, one of Tucker's biggest interviews he's ever done as far as exposure goes, as far as reach goes. | ||
| And a lot of people on the right, specifically in our circles, have expressed some discontent with this. | ||
| They're saying, well, you know, you're allowing him to sort of rehabilitate back into the right considering, you know, he's been, I mean, he was working against the Trump campaign in 2024. | ||
| He was actively trying to undermine the Trump campaign. | ||
| And so many people are frustrated that it seems like he's being rewarded for disloyalty in many regards. | ||
| And I certainly see that as well. | ||
| It is a bit frustrating. | ||
| But instead of that, I think it's more important to tap into why specifically is Nick Fuentes resonating so much with young people. | ||
| And I do think I'm not tying the two, but I do think it ties in with what creates Tyler Robinson's as it is like a left-wing analog. | ||
| The regime is completely delegitimized. | ||
| There's nothing for young people to believe in. | ||
| There's nothing for young people to buy into. | ||
| Our inheritance has been robbed before our very own eyes. | ||
| And yeah, people are kind of like Piers Morgan in many ways. | ||
| Correct me if I'm wrong, but he really just is the face of like the globalist regime messaging. | ||
| He's kind of the mouthpiece. | ||
| He's kind of the spokesperson in many ways. | ||
| And so if you could pick like a worse person to throw up against Nick Fuentes, I can't imagine one. | ||
| Like Piers Morgan might be the worst possible guy for that. | ||
| Because does anyone actually know what Piers Morgan's like philosophical convictions are beyond like what the WEF would parrot or what you would see from a infographic coming out of the BBC? | ||
| This guy, he's really just is vapid. | ||
| He doesn't reflect anything interesting or intriguing about life. | ||
| It's just standard boilerplate neoliberal politics. | ||
| So this is the worst person, worst possible guy to throw up against Nick Fuentes because no matter what Piers, no matter what data point he threw at him, no matter what video he threw at him, no matter what critique, whatever, you could throw the best APA research you wanted at Nick Fuentes in an interview. | ||
| Piers Morgan is going to lose that in the eyes of Zoomers because in Zoomers' eyes, Piers Morgan is not a real person. | ||
| He's been delegitimized. | ||
| He's just a shell. | ||
| He's an avatar of the regime, of the politics that have destroyed us. | ||
| And the reason I brought up Tyler Robinson is I think the left-wing analog is someone like him. | ||
| Again, a Zoomer that has correctly identified that their inheritance has been stolen. | ||
| There's nothing for them to buy into. | ||
| But rather than sort of delving into right-wing politics, which is structured on hierarchy and will bring some order about to your life, it's a lifeboat in many ways. | ||
| Christianity is obviously intrinsically tied to it. | ||
| The left-wing analog is self-destruction. | ||
| And that's what Tyler Robinson is engaged in. | ||
| His boyfriend is certainly an indicator of that. | ||
| This is someone that cuts themselves up and wears wigs and whatnot and just really at every turn attempts to destroy themselves. | ||
| It's really the perfect picture of left-wing politics, what it does to a human being. | ||
| But the reason I'm kind of contrasting both of those is to illustrate the point that Zoomers, there's nothing for them to buy into. | ||
| Everything is completely delegitimized. | ||
| They can feel the instability under their feet. | ||
| They can feel that the Republic is dissolving and they're looking at their options. | ||
| They're looking at the menu. | ||
| And Nick Fuentes, again, I've laid out the critiques. | ||
| I am really frustrated with his continued undermining of the Trump administration. | ||
| I just think it's not useful. | ||
| I think it's counterproductive. | ||
| But he is providing something. | ||
| He's providing Zoomers with an avatar to sort of channel the energy to send a message to these older generations that, like, look, we don't believe in this anymore. | ||
| This means nothing to me. | ||
| This system, I'm not going to inherit any of it, so I don't really care. | ||
| Yeah, I think for young men, you either die in Nick Fuentes or you live long enough to see yourself become a Lance Twigs. | ||
| I mean, in his Tucker interview, he actually pointed out the kinds of people that Lance Twiggs and Tyler Robinson are very well. | ||
| They often form parasocial relationships with ChatGPT and treat it like a therapist. | ||
| And I think that's sort of like trying to shake one of the tendrils of the Beyonders from DD. | ||
| Like you're basically grasping some sort of amorphous appendage from a demon that you don't quite understand there. | ||
| It's basically like playing with a Ouija board. | ||
| Also, you know, addicted to like THC vape pens and sitting in doom-scrolling Instagram reels all the time. | ||
| All of this was in the text with a third party that got the swords on that substack. | ||
| So we're really building a picture of these resentful, porn-addicted freaks who have outsourced their internal monologue to algorithmic programming and simulacra conversations with AI. | ||
| and it's really unhealthy, and it generates horrible people. | ||
| Whereas, to the inverse, you've got, and I think, There's a few directions I want to go with this. | ||
| First, I will perhaps steel man Nick's disloyalty because I feel as someone who has also been kicked out of the club for pretty much every political party in the UK. | ||
| If you're trying to force an issue, you'll try and use whatever political leverage you can to force that issue. | ||
| Now, I think Nick made a very poor political calculation by floating support for Gavin Newsom or trying to run Yay 2024 and even suggesting that Karmala was brat. | ||
| Like all of these things are hyperbolic, but you're right, it did show disloyalty to the administration. | ||
| It meant his concerns were less listened to before the election cycle. | ||
| But since the election cycle, being too large to ignore, he is trying to force the administration to basically live up to their own principles, to be America first, to ensure that America is governed for the interest of heritage Americans rather than various client groups imported into the country or various foreign lobbies who have diasporas in the country, but also nations elsewhere they can escape to if America goes belly up, which it increasingly is looking likely to. | ||
| And so what he's trying to do is apply carrot and stick. | ||
| Like Doyle and Oron and yourself are the carrots for the administration when they don't just post hype edits, they actually do the deportations in order to film said hype edits. | ||
| Whereas Nick is saying, I will apply stick in case that you think that you could deploy troops in the aftermath of the Iran nuclear facility bombing and basically get away with appeasing the neoconservatives. | ||
| No, remember, your base is us. | ||
| And I think there's actually a useful function there, whether or not hyperbole or saying that Hitler was cool because of the hype edits might be able to detract from whether or not the administration can actually bring him into the fold. | ||
| But in terms of Piers Morgan, you're right. | ||
| Piers Morgan is an avatar of the acceptable transgressions within the liberal Overton window. | ||
| So, perfect example of this: we have a woman named Kelly J. Keene, who I think has been on Tim's channel before. | ||
| She used to be called Posey Parker, but she's basically like the archetypal Victorian woman, right? | ||
| She is the anti-trans pro-traditional mother who she went to a women's swim meet and started heckling the guy who was swimming there in the aftermath of the what's his name? | ||
| Something Thomas, what's his real name? | ||
| Leo Thomas. | ||
| I think his real name was Logan or something. | ||
| Yeah, his real name is ridiculous. | ||
| Anyway, that dude. | ||
| So she went down there and started heckling that. | ||
| She's very famous for Let Women Speak, an organization that kicks men out of women's changing rooms. | ||
| But she's not the well, it was all fine. | ||
| Feminism was just fine until men took over our space. | ||
| And actually, trans is just a form of misogyny. | ||
| She's like, no, the feminists brought us here and they're also to blame. | ||
| So let's get rid of all that too. | ||
| So she went on Piers Morgan's show. | ||
| And Piers Morgan went, oh, you're a transphobe, aren't you? | ||
| You're transphobic. | ||
| And she was like, yeah, sure, I am. | ||
| By your standards, yeah, I don't care. | ||
| I don't care what that name is. | ||
| I don't care what you call me. | ||
| I don't want men in women's sports teams, in women's locker rooms, in women's changing rooms, in women's prisons. | ||
| I don't want men pretending to be women, and utterly vindicated. | ||
| And now, Piers Morgan, having seen the shifting political winds, has caught up to the Kelly J. Keene position, but never apologised to her. | ||
| And the same thing's happening with Fuentes. | ||
| Why did he ever think, and I think I know why, but why did he ever think that pulling Nick Fuentes on and showing him viral clips that Fuentes doesn't care if it exists because he does a two-hour show live and for free every single day where he makes hyperbolic statements. | ||
| Why did he think showing him those clips and trying to get him to denounce himself was a kind of struggle session? | ||
| And it's because he lives in the boom the truth paradigm, which says that anything that isn't an open society which treats everyone as indistinguishable blank slates, anything which doesn't consolidate the gains of the civil rights movement and the sexual revolution, leads ineluctably to Adolf Hitler, gas chambers and Auschwitz. | ||
| And Nick has recognized that morality. | ||
| He even referenced R.R. Reno's book, Return of the Strong Gods. | ||
| He just didn't name the title when he laid the blame at the feet of Karl Popper and the Open Society and Adorno and the authoritarian personality during the interview. | ||
| Nick has recognized that hierarchy. | ||
| He's recognized that basically Hitler, the Holocaust, the Second World War is a kind of gravity well around which all contemporary politics revolves. | ||
| And contemporary politics puts straight white heterosexual men at the bottom of that totem pole, yet demands that they finance all of these aggrieved racial and sexual minority groups, that they astroturf women up the corporate ladder and put them into meaningless make work spreadsheet jobs that deracinate the birth rate and turn them to hate men that they might otherwise have lasting and loving relationships with. | ||
| And he just goes, well, sorry, why would I uphold that moral order and participate in upholding that moral order by recognizing the slurs that you're throwing at me, the violation of progressive morality, like racist and sexist? | ||
| Why would I uphold that by acquiescing to saying those slurs have moral legitimacy? | ||
| And so he's completely inverted it to the extent of where he's willing to make Holocaust jokes and say that Hitler was cool. | ||
| And by that, he then clarified on the following show that he meant that he doesn't abide by the atrocities of the 20th century and he doesn't want that kind of government. | ||
| But you have to provoke those taboos to say, to have the ever-present threat of actually white Europeans, Americans and the like have the greatest civilizations throughout history. | ||
| And if we decided to throw off the yoke of white guilt, reject the post-war liberal consensus morality that makes us second-class citizens in our own country, then yeah, you should basically live in fear of what we're capable of doing, even if we don't endorse those regimes. | ||
| We should be able to just be unapologetic champions for our history, our heritage, our identity, our culture, and our civilization without engaging in the atrocities of the 20th century. | ||
| I think he might do better to perhaps drop the ironic Hitler and Stalin praise because it clouds the message a bit. | ||
| But this is why Piers Morgan didn't understand why his struggle session didn't work. | ||
| This is why Piers Morgan made the most confusing possible decision to have Danny Finkelstein zoom in. | ||
| And Finkelstein, by the way, doesn't like me either because I went through one of his articles at length where Finkelstein said, and you won't be aware of this, but shit, you're not. | ||
| He writes to the Times, in the summer he wrote, there's no future in the politics of victimhood. | ||
| Okay, Danny, then why did you zoom in to break Nick Fuentes about how me mum and me dad were persecuted by Hitler and Stalin, which is of course tragic, but that doesn't mean you can't have borders anymore. | ||
| And why, Danny, does Israel exist, if not, to protect the Jews from a second Holocaust, which current politics is always suspicious that white people are going to do if they decide to take power in their own countries and, you know, reject multiculturalism and minority grievances? | ||
| So, why Piers Morgan thought that that would be an effective line of attack on Nick Fuentes that would get his own viewers to denounce him is perplexing to Zoomers because we stepped outside the post-war paradigm. | ||
| But boomers don't understand why everyone wouldn't find him appalling because they're still within the post-war paradigm and have a lot emotionally invested in consolidating the gains of those revolutions. | ||
| Two more quick points, if I may. | ||
| Nobody wants to be Piers Morgan because he's a cuckold. | ||
| Like, quite literally, it's all come out ever since. | ||
| You know, his wife has an Instagram where she keeps posting photos of her draped around other men and joking about having sex with a man that she calls Mr. Suds, which is a black guy in a speedo washing her car. | ||
| She famously took a six-week sabbatical from Piers Morgan and insinuated that she was leaking with other men during that time. | ||
| And Piers Morgan is fat, effeminate, incapable of taking a joke, and very emotionally overwrought. | ||
| And so he's not an admirable man. | ||
| Instead, he's sort of stood idly by or enabled the ideology that has encouraged atrocities throughout our country. | ||
| For example, you know, the Pakistani grooming gangs covered up by the slur of racist. | ||
| I'm sorry, I would rather be called a racist than be party to mass industrial racial child rape, Piers. | ||
| And then the other thing was: how are you going to get young men to abandon Nick Fuentes if you claim to be a Catholic but also support female priests, sex before marriage, and abortion? | ||
| Because he told Tucker Carlson he believes in a woman's right to choose. | ||
| It's like, okay, Piers, Catholicism is not a proto-version of John Lennon's Imagine. | ||
| It's not just liberalism with smells, bells, and incense. | ||
| It's actually an entirely comprehensive metaphysical doctrine of the good, which is irreconcilable with your progressive platitudes that you put out there. | ||
| And no, it's not being a fanatic or an extremist or basically Catholic bin Laden to be consistent to the Catechism and Church teaching. | ||
| You are just a hypocrite who is wearing my religion like a skin suit to morally browbeat me into agreeing with a regime that has enabled atrocities and considers me to have inexpungible racial guilt. | ||
| And if I stand up and say something about it, then I should be cancelled from polite society. | ||
| And that's why Fuentes not just got the better of him, but seems to be on what he is calling a generational run. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, it just really illustrates the point that these boomers and boomer-aligned operations don't really understand that fundamentally what Fuentes is trying to do is be deliberately provocative. | ||
| Because a lot of people on the right, people in our sphere, the pragmatic sort of crowd, our biggest critique of Fuentes has always been that this appears to be more of an aesthetic rebellion rather than a strategic effort to preserve Western civilization. | ||
| It's more spectacle than substance. | ||
| That's always been our critique. | ||
| And those who are his detractors that are on the left or in the neoliberal or even just the older folks on the right that are trying to sort of take him down, they buy into the framework that he's presenting. | ||
| This is always the issue. | ||
| This is fundamentally the issue. | ||
| We'll probably talk about it with Oran. | ||
| That you can never win an argument if you're stepping into someone else's framework. | ||
| And what Piers Morgan and all these guys do every time they debate Nick Fuentes is rather than attack his sort of strategic goals, his, again, failures like we've seen with Yay24, the Kamala, you know, the ironic Kamala endorsement or that seemed to be actually tangible because he was trying to organize people in Michigan to not vote for Trump, Gavin Newsom, you name it. | ||
| Instead of going there and attacking there, they just step into his framework, into his aesthetic rebellion, and try to attack him there. | ||
| And it's just never going to work. | ||
| And then Fuentes on top of that is pretty funny. | ||
| So he's able to really just spin Piers any which way he wanted him. | ||
| It was like watching a boxer in the ring with an amateur. | ||
| I mean, it really was. | ||
| And it was quite amazing that Piers was doing a victory lap afterwards because I don't know, maybe his producer said he nailed it. | ||
| That must be the only takeaway because, again, it was just an objective disaster. | ||
| So, all this to say, they're just not very good at this. | ||
| There's a reason why society has collapsed under their watch: A, yes, their ideology doesn't work and fundamentally will cause society to break apart at the seams. | ||
| But also, they're not very good at what they do. | ||
| They're not prudent. | ||
| They're not good at actually putting into place their policies and implementing them correctly. | ||
| And they're not good at polemics. | ||
| They just suck. | ||
| It's just so abundantly obvious. | ||
| So, all this is going to do is continue to embolden Fuentes. | ||
| And that's what's so funny is because that's sort of their fear. | ||
| But all this is going to happen is this culture war theater is all it's going to do is have this red pilling effect, really, is it just, again, opens up the gateway for disillusioned young men. | ||
| And I'm not going to sit here and be gay about it and be like, oh, this is these men have no right to be disillusioned. | ||
| The system's great. | ||
| That's like typically the counter Fuentes argument. | ||
| And I just think that's a failure. | ||
| You need to understand why these young men are disillusioned and really address those same points. | ||
| Just provide like some strategy. | ||
| Again, I think Trump actually does an excellent job at that, personally. | ||
| And obviously, he's in office, so he has the power to enact a lot of those changes that disillusioned young men would like to see. | ||
| But yeah, it's just a complete disaster. | ||
| And later in the interview, Piers Morgan, bizarrely, for being a devout Catholic who Catholics, you know, and Christians broadly, you know, it's in the scripture that abstinence should be practiced prior to marriage. | ||
| Again, we should be having sex with one woman, that woman being our wife. | ||
| And Piers Morgan, like, weaponized this. | ||
| Again, he's supposedly a Catholic. | ||
| Fuentes, for what it's worth, taking the Christian moral, the correct Christian moral take, which is, no, I'm not going to have sex until marriage. | ||
| I think he went on to say he was like, he said before it's gay, having sex is gay, which, you know, is neither here nor there. | ||
| But I kind of wanted to tie it in with that Solianoth tweet that I brought up at the beginning of the show, where this is actually kind of what Fuentes is actually sort of alluding to. | ||
| And Solianoth put this commentary, he tagged this onto that clip where Fuentes was saying, you know, sort of his frustration surrounding the whole dating market as it stands. | ||
| I'll just read a little bit of it here because it's a very long tweet. | ||
| He said, quote, having sex is the easiest thing in the world. | ||
| I could make a dating app profile and lose my virginity by dinner time. | ||
| But few people alive have ever actually had sex. | ||
| They've performed a social ritual, sort of like hazing. | ||
| They've slapped their damp, clammy body against another damp, clammy body like the wriggling of a suffocating fish. | ||
| There's a bunch of gross stuff in here. | ||
| They've never made love. | ||
| They've never experienced passion or tried to melt into another human being. | ||
| To be crude for a moment, it sounds more like more or less the equivalent of a salary man dipping into the bathroom and having a 30-second wank simply so that he can more easily concentrate on whichever set of numbers he is currently moving from one column of an Excel sheet to another. | ||
| It's nothing but a physical phenomenon removed of any talus. | ||
| So again, this tweet received like a ton of criticism. | ||
| Everyone is dunking on this guy, but I think he actually is alluding to, I don't know if this is what Fuentes specifically was alluding to. | ||
| I think for him, it's more of a bit. | ||
| But there's some truth that literally every single thing for young people has completely unraveled. | ||
| And the sexual revolution, this would require a whole episode to really cover. | ||
| But the sexual revolution has been a complete disaster to the point where what Solianoth is really alluding to is that sex and casual sex fundamentally is just mutual masturbation. | ||
| And it's completely eliminated something that was ordained by God. | ||
| I mean, it was ordained to illustrate his love for the church, and it's been turned, it's been commodified. | ||
| And what he's expressing here is sort of frustration with this overemphasis from older people on sex saying like, oh, this is, if you're not receiving this, you're just an incel and you're like a loser or whatever. | ||
| And what Solianoth is saying is like, what's even so special about this anymore? | ||
| Your generation, the boomer generation, who really kick-started the sexual revolution, eliminated all the value around it. | ||
| So it's like, what are you even really missing out on? | ||
| This is something that you can fire up Tinder and have, you know, resolved by the evening. | ||
| So again, what Solianov specifically is alluding to is that, you know, abstinence actually has quite a bit of value to it because again, sex in the correct view would be something that would be with your wife and done within the confines of love and all these sorts of things. | ||
| People melting into each other was the words he used. | ||
| But again, this is just another example of something that is fundamental to the human experience that has been completely flipped on its head by this neoliberal boomer sort of regime. | ||
| And so, again, this is just something that's not fair to be using as like a club against young people because it's like, what's so great about it? | ||
| The system you've created, the new sort of paradigm that you've introduced has stripped any meaning away from it. | ||
| It's like, what are we doing here? | ||
| Yeah, this is where the line of attack didn't work by Piers. | ||
| He also tweeted out after the show that he's going to start branding people who shame women who stand up for women's rights women phobic. | ||
| And it's like, yeah, man, sure. | ||
| The line of attack that men just don't respect women enough after spending 20 to 30 years going through feminized institutions being told that they are guilty of every historical atrocity that has ever existed and that anytime they want to be competitive or competent, but this is proof of their attempts to oppress everyone. | ||
| This is just not an effective line of attack. | ||
| Neither is the idea that they haven't lived in a culture which is sufficiently sexually oversaturated. | ||
| Like these guys have grown up since they are 10 being preyed on by porn companies that know what they're doing and have been given the license to do so by boomer adults who believe that we are all generated free and equal and any limitation on their autonomous anonymous right to goon is somehow tantamount to oppression. | ||
| So we just throw these kids to the wolves and have them trune out like Tyler Robinson and Lance Twigs. | ||
| And so the idea that you were ever going to hit Fuentes or his audience on this when we have a completely different framework for sexual morality was doomed to the start, Piers. | ||
| And it's also doomed when people then, again, dig through your wife's Instagram and find out that you aren't the man of your own house. | ||
| Like, why would we want to respect that? | ||
| Why would we want to respect you? | ||
| And the final thing is the incel charge. | ||
| So look, for my sins, I'm a terrible Catholic. | ||
| I did not listen to Nick's advice in saying no e-girls ever. | ||
| So I wasn't quite as abstinent before my marriage. | ||
| However, there is nothing value if it was given away basically for free. | ||
| And Solian Arath in his post there alluded to the fact that we are getting to the point now where a certain contingent of people will just have hookups to fulfill a desire that has been left by the complete breakdown in relationship norms and the stigmatizing of commitment. | ||
| And now we're in the territory where people are, we were, for a time, people were having sex all the time in a kind of brave new world or Zonyattan's wee fashion where you could almost schedule it in. | ||
| But they were told not to catch feelings, not to get attached. | ||
| And so in that sexual oversaturation, in that carousel, that revolving door of sexual partners, which is ultimately unfulfilling and emotionless and kind of soul-destroying, fewer people are now having sex than ever. | ||
| You've got a rising number of people that have never had an intimate partner under the age of 30. | ||
| Fewer people are getting married. | ||
| Fewer people are having children. | ||
| And civilization is going the way of the dodo for it. | ||
| And then that then manufactures consent for the kind of demographic replacement that Piers Morgan supports because he wants to fill his trough of foreign slop. | ||
| And so Piers Morgan's entire worldview is anathema to the organic bottom-up worldview that Zoomers have built, and the kinds of men that watch Nick Fuentes have built. | ||
| Not because, as Pierre Morgan alleged, they just go out and are angry the moment they see someone else of a different skin color, but from their immediate experience, their ability to notice patterns without the help of Chat GPT and an entire production team feeding you false information about per capita, which Piers Morgan couldn't understand. | ||
| They instead have built a worldview from the bottom up that is reassessing the gains of the civil rights movement, the sexual revolution, the post-war order, and realizing that it has either broken its promises or has left them nothing to inherit, has left them bereft of the civilization, and so they've got nothing to lose by turning over the tables of that moral order. | ||
| That's quite Morgan lost. | ||
| Alrighty guys, well we'll wrap here. | ||
| Just thank you very much for watching. | ||
| We'll be back tomorrow with a great interview with Oron McIntyre. | ||
| I'm really looking forward to it. | ||
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| Connor, where can people find you? | ||
| They can find me at Connor Tomlinson on YouTube, where over 100,000 of you have. | ||
| So thank you very much for that. | ||
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