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Dec. 3, 2025 - The Culture War - Tim Pool
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GOP Rep Goes SCORCHED EARTH On Immigration, Says DEPORT THEM ALL w/ Rep. Randy Fine

Timcast's White House Correspondent, Elaad Eliahu, sits down with Congressman Randy Fine to discuss a variety of today's most pressing issues.  BUY CAST BREW COFFEE TO SUPPORT THE SHOW - https://castbrew.com/ Become A Member And Protect Our Work at http://www.timcast.com Host: Elaad @ElaadEliahu (X) Guest: Rep. Randy Fine @RepFine (X) Producer: Serge @SergeDotCom (everywhere) My Second Channel - https://www.youtube.com/timcastnews Podcast Channel - https://www.youtube.com/TimcastIRL

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randy fine
But I've started to think the left flooded us with illegals to distract us from the real flood, which was legal immigration.
elad eliahu
Good afternoon, everybody.
I am Alad Eliyahu, the White House correspondent here at Timcast, and today we have a very special episode because we are in Congress interviewing Republican congressional members.
And today we have a very special guest, Representative Randy Fine from Florida, freshman member from Florida.
Thank you so much for taking the time to speak to us.
We have a long range of topics that I wanted to get into, so I wanted to hop right into it.
And this is coming on the heels of news from last weekend about how two National Guardsmen were shot outside of the White House.
I wanted to get their names because one was already announced, killed.
That's Sarah Beckstrom from West Virginia.
Now, Andrew Wolfe, who is currently in critical condition.
As we understand, this was an Afghan refugee who our intelligence agencies collaborated with in the past to help us in Afghanistan.
We ended up giving him some refugee status to come over here a few years ago.
He didn't assimilate as well as he thought he could, and it led to this tragedy from 100 feet away.
Can I get your reaction to what went down and what should our response be?
randy fine
Well, it's disgraceful.
Look, we let a Muslim terrorist into this country, and he engaged in Muslim terrorism.
I think we have to ask ourselves: how many Americans are we going to let die by Muslim terrorists before we do something about it?
This guy shouldn't have been here.
And the biggest problem we have with all this is people talk about, well, vetting, vetting, vetting.
The whole idea of vetting is a lie.
You can't know what's in someone's heart, and you can't know what's in someone's mind.
And so, if we should not be importing people from countries that hate America, saying, oh, they don't have a criminal record, therefore they're going to be fine.
That doesn't tell us what's in their soul.
And so we need to lock down our borders.
President Trump's done a great job on illegal immigration, but I've started to think the left flooded us with illegals to distract us from the real flood, which was legal immigration.
We need people in this country who love America, share our values, want to assimilate, and don't want free stuff.
And that is not our immigration system today.
elad eliahu
We'll tap into more on the immigration conversation in a moment, but I wanted to kind of follow up with you.
And how would you respond to somebody who argues that we owe some sort of debt to those who collaborated with American troops and help us fight against the Taliban and other enemies of ours?
And if we don't help out these types of people, then in the future it'll be more difficult to find people who are willing to collaborate with U.S. troops.
randy fine
I think that's a fair point, but maybe we could have sent them to a Muslim country that, I mean, maybe they needed to get out of Afghanistan, but there are 56 other Muslim countries around the world.
Maybe we could have asked Indonesia to take them on, the world's most populous Muslim country that's not known for massive amounts of Muslim terror.
So I think there is a legitimate thought, if you helped us, maybe we have to take care of you.
Does that mean we have to bring them here?
The answer to that is no.
elad eliahu
Absolutely.
I wanted to read you a part of a Truth Social post from the president following this attack.
He said, I will permanently pause migration from third world countries to allow the U.S. system to fully recover.
Only reverse migration can fully cure this situation.
Can I get your reaction to that?
And this kind of touches on the legal and illegal immigration topic that we were mentioning earlier.
randy fine
Well, that Truth Social Post may be the most consequential of his presidency to deal with the greatest challenge facing us in our country, which is immigration.
Let me be clear.
So we've talked about illegal.
We're talking about legal.
People who come to this country and look at New York.
Zohran Mandami got blown out in the election by natural born New Yorkers.
People who were born here, whether they were Republican, Democrat, black, white, Asian, Hispanic.
It was people who just arrived who elected him.
Now, if the people showing up in your country, they should be voting the same as the people who are already here.
Whether they're liberal or conservative, it should mimic that.
And if you're not, it means you're bringing in people who are changing the complex of your country.
That's not the purpose of immigration.
Our immigration system right now is filled with people who hate America, who do not share our values and want to change it, who do not seek to assimilate.
Look at Dearborn, Michigan, and want free stuff.
That is a recipe for disaster.
And so we need immigrants, if we're going to have them at all, who love America, share our values, want to become part of the American melting pot, and don't want anything for free.
If you come here for freedom and opportunity, I'm willing to have that discussion.
If you say I love America, if you come here for free stuff, stay at home.
elad eliahu
Absolutely.
And the president also mentioned that he wanted to end or permanently pause, it was all visas from Afghanistan.
I'm looking at a Wall Street Journal editorial that says, Afghan refugees shouldn't be blamed for the violent act of one man.
Collective punishment of all Afghans in the U.S. won't make America safer, and it might embitter more people against the United States.
What's your response to that kind of sentiment?
randy fine
You know, the same sort of people who write that say that it's better that 100 people go free from prison than one guilty person, than one innocent person be held in prison.
How many Americans are they willing to sacrifice on the altar of suicidal empathy?
My answer is none.
elad eliahu
Absolutely.
Now I wanted to pivot to legal immigration.
I feel like this is one of those issues that's actually been one of the things dividing parts of the Republican Party, particularly H-1B visas.
We have roughly 700,000 active H-1B visas currently in our country.
About 70% of them are Indians, and it's predominantly disproportionately in the tech industry.
Some parts of the tech industry support the president.
I know Vivek Ramaswamy, Elon Musk have said positive things about H-1B visas in the past.
Other people in the MAGA movement have said this undercuts American workers.
What's your reaction to all this H-1B stuff?
This is legal immigration that's still having unintended consequences for the American workers.
randy fine
Well, here's what I think.
I think there's a lot of problems in the program.
If you have a specialized job, some sort of super specific programming job, and there's not an American to do that job, and your company can't exist without it, and that person's in India, I don't know that we should force your company to close.
But here's the issue.
You shouldn't import Indians to undercut American wages.
And that is what is happening.
And that is wrong, and that has to be stopped.
elad eliahu
I understand that the H-1B visas are supposed to be for specialty workers.
Correct, but it's a very important thing.
It seems as though more often than not.
randy fine
I agree.
elad eliahu
It seems to be people, like, are Americans in the world?
I don't think people aren't filling most of these positions.
I think Americans could probably fill many of them.
I have many peers in New York in the tech industry.
randy fine
Absolutely.
elad eliahu
I feel as though they are getting undercut.
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They are.
randy fine
Hey, I could pay you, I'm just using it, I could pay you $200,000, or I can get an H-1B visa and pay the guy $70,000.
That's what a lot of is going on.
They're just trying to import cheap labor, and that should absolutely, that should be a criminal offense in this country.
And if you said if you do that, you're going to go to jail, that fraud would stop.
elad eliahu
Absolutely.
And I wanted to ask you, on immigration and the future of the Republican or MAGA movement, do you think we're heading towards like a net zero immigration type mindset?
randy fine
I hope not.
I want a net negative.
Wow, okay.
No, no.
Net zero is a failure.
There are tens of millions of people in this country that need to go home.
You know, the number one issue facing voters right now is affordability.
The number two that I hear about is immigration.
And the two are intricately linked.
When you have 30, 40, 50 million people in your country who shouldn't be here, that drives up the cost of housing.
That drives up the cost of health care.
That drives up the cost of education.
That drives up the cost of insurance.
We need to get all these people out to both make America safe and to make America cheap.
It's a big deal, and I'm all in to pour them all.
elad eliahu
Absolutely.
I wanted to pivot to another topic that's been in the news recently and the Trump administration's been busying themselves with, and that's dealing with the drug cartels in Venezuela and preventing the flow of drugs.
They have called the Maduro regime illegitimate and narco-terrorist, and they've been bombing boats out of the water.
Can I get your reaction?
What do you think about the administration's actions so far in the waters around Venezuela?
randy fine
Well, let me clarify one thing.
I believe it is generally a consensus from Democrats and Republicans that the Maduro regime is illegitimate.
I think that is not in dispute.
Some of the left doesn't like, they want to make drugs great again, apparently, and say, you know, bring them all in.
Oh, gosh, God forbid we heard a drug dealer.
Look, I support President Trump.
He's trying to keep America safe.
Bombs away.
elad eliahu
Should Congress have any say in the military actions that they are pursuing on the close to the but here's the deal.
randy fine
For me, I trust Donald J. Trump.
I trust him.
He's never let me down.
I trust his judgment.
So I don't feel a lot of need to pick apart while he's doing.
Democrats want to pick apart everything he's doing.
We had basically an invalid as president for four years.
They didn't care at all.
Now we have a guy who works 20 hours a week and they're obsessed with his MRI.
I mean just the lack of bad faith on the part of the Democrats is repulsive and I trust President Trump's judgment.
elad eliahu
The president ran on no new wars and he's definitely helped end a lot of conflicts around the country but I feel as though some MAGA supporters have some reluctance in going along with this.
What would you say to somebody who says we don't need to do regime change in Venezuela?
We shouldn't be applying a ton of pressure.
We shouldn't be moving all of our military assets, you know, not all of them, but as I understand we have an aircraft carrier there among other assets.
randy fine
I mean President Trump's going to stop the flow of drugs.
That's not regime change and that's not a war.
That's called law enforcement and stopping drugs coming in the United States.
He's not bombing people going for a pleasure cruise.
He is bombing people who are attempting to use boats to bring drugs to the United States.
I say keep it up, bombs away.
elad eliahu
But ultimately as I understand they're only bomb, this is like a drop in the bucket as far as drugs are concerned.
Like Venezuela, even if there was regime change, you're completely stopped sending drugs to our country.
As I understand, 99% of our drugs are still flowing through Mexico as a winter cartel.
randy fine
So we just give up?
I mean, you know how you eat an elephant?
One bite at a time.
The fact that a good idea doesn't solve the entirety of a problem does not make it not a good idea.
elad eliahu
Absolutely.
There's also been some reporting from the Washington Post in regard to our military actions around there.
The big thing has been that they shot a drug boat and it was incapacitated and then they did a follow-up strike.
Pete Hegseth, Secretary of War Pete Hegseth, has been getting a lot of flack for this.
Have you heard this stuff?
What is your reaction to it and do you believe that the Washington Post is fake news or this is credible reporting?
randy fine
I think the administration said that was false and like I said, I trust President Trump's judgment.
elad eliahu
Absolutely.
If there were to be a conflict that did break out in Venezuela, do you think the Americans should accept any refugees coming out of Venezuela?
randy fine
No, I think we need to get out of the refugee business because refugees have turned into a scam.
TPS has turned into a scam.
TPS has temporary protective status.
Democrats believe once you're here as a refugee temporarily, you can never leave.
So no, I think America needs to get out of the asylum business.
elad eliahu
Absolutely.
And just to follow up on the strikes, the reason I really wanted to focus on that a little bit more was because there are many Democrats who are saying that if the reporting from the Washington Post is true, they're accusing the Secretary of War of potentially committing war crimes.
And I believe it was Admiral Bradley who Pete Hegseth named as doing it.
So there's the senator from Connecticut, Van Holland, who said this could potentially be viewed as war crimes.
Same with Mark Kelly from Arizona.
What is your thoughts on these Democrats pushing that line?
And also I believe it was Mark Kelly who recently said that if you're being told you should refuse illegal orders.
randy fine
Yeah, these people are idiots.
I mean there's no other way to put it.
Look, in the case of Mark Kelly, he engaged in sedition.
I mean, he should be arrested for what he did.
So, no, I don't pay any attention.
Look, if Donald Trump cured cancer, they would talk about how terrible it is for all the businesses that make money off of cancer.
These people simply hate America.
They hate Donald Trump.
And they're intent on our destruction, and we're here to fight them.
elad eliahu
Absolutely.
One last topic that I wanted to hit on is that, I don't know if it's everybody, but definitely people on the right feel as though it's open season on them.
We're coming off the heels of Charlie Kirk being murdered in cold blood, and then there's these other two National Guardsmen.
It's right-wing coded.
It seems as though law enforcement people are willing to say that ICER and Gestapo in the case of Tim Waltz is the common line among the Democrats.
I just wanted to get, what's your reaction to those who feel as though it is open season on those on the right, and particularly on Charlie Kirk's passing recently?
Can I get your reaction to that stuff?
randy fine
They're right.
I mean, it is.
Look, there are three people who have been arrested for making threats against me.
There's a meaningful percentage of the left who believes that violence is acceptable.
I've filed all kinds of bills on this.
I've filed a bill that will basically throw you in jail for the rest of your life if you get in the way of ICE.
I mean, keep in mind, what's ICE trying to do?
They're trying to deport foreign invaders.
And these people want to stop it.
I wish I could tell you I was incredibly optimistic and bullish on the future of our country.
I am not, because a meaningful percentage of the country hates it and wants to destroy it and believes in using any means necessary to do it.
So those people who are concerned have every right to be, and fortunately, that's why we have a Second Amendment.
elad eliahu
Absolutely.
I also think it's worth mentioning that some of the loudest voices on the right suspect that there is some foul play when it comes to the killing of Charlie Kirk.
I don't know if you've seen this, but what is your reaction to some of these voices?
I'm reading a tweet from Candace Owens from earlier this morning that says, I can now say with full confidence that I believe Charlie Kirk was betrayed by the leadership of Turning Point USA and some of the very people who eulogized him on stage.
randy fine
She's a delusional idiot.
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I don't really pay attention to what she has to say.
elad eliahu
Do you think there's a sense of these conspiracies?
randy fine
Yeah, look, people, it's not on the right.
Conspiracy theories are everywhere.
I think people try to telegraph things onto things that aren't the case.
I mean, what happened to Charlie, sort of, I mean, it's a horrible story, but someone who is radicalized into transgender stuff went nuts and shot him.
I mean, the story in and of itself is terrible enough.
I don't think we have to make up wacko conspiracy theories in order to do it.
But I think it is justified that people feel concerned about what happened to Charlie Kirk.
It was terrible.
elad eliahu
Absolutely.
And just to wrap it up, a few of the themes that we mentioned are things that I believe are dividing the Republican Party.
So the Charlie Kirk stuff, I feel as though, is dividing the Republican Party.
H-1B visas and that, I believe, is dividing the party in parts.
Israel has been a very inflammatory issue.
How do you think the right wing in MAGA can work to overcome the divisions currently within the coalition?
randy fine
Well, we have to stop listening to the foreign influence funded division.
You know, there was a big thing a couple weeks ago when Elon released where X accounts were coming from.
And we learned that all of these groups that were causing problems in MA, a huge number of them weren't American.
We've seen this on a lot of the anti-Semitism stuff.
They're from Pakistan and Saudi Arabia.
Most of this division is not organic.
It is fueled by paid actors, whether it's Qatar or it's frankly China that just wants to divide us from within.
We need to reject it.
I think we're a lot more unified than people believe.
elad eliahu
Absolutely.
Representative Randy Fan, thank you so much for taking your time.
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