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Nov. 18, 2025 - The Culture War - Tim Pool
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Kash Patel's Girlfriend SUES Elijah Schaffer Over Mossad Claims ft. Elijah Schaffer

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elijah schaffer
He did publicly talk about this before the lawsuits were put out, but I want to clarify: they tried to keep this a secret, and they had a PR campaign allegedly that they were going to use to try to take me down.
And they were getting Barry Wise's team, Josh Hammer's team, involved in this to try to like create this thing.
And we found out about it and then made it public, which is why, like, she hasn't really been tweeting and they haven't really been saying anything.
We sort of like blew the lid on the operation.
It was going to try to like take me down, and they were searching for other info to grab me on.
tim pool
Kash Patel's girlfriend has filed a lawsuit, and Elijah Schaefer is named.
Now, apparently, he's being accused of accusing her of being a Mossad agent or something to that effect.
Now, the story starts to get very weird because Elijah Schaefer has a, I believe it's his producer, designated his personal security and operations manager, a national security threat, giving him the four S's on his airline ticket 72 hours after he was doxxed and had to relocate due to lawfare connected to the FBI director.
Now, for those that are familiar with the story, it's a bit of high-level personal drama combined with government action, which is strange.
And let me take a look at this right here from Newsweek.
We'll give you the quick breakdown.
Conservative influencer Elijah Schaefer called the defamation lawsuit filed against him by FBI Director Kash Patel's girlfriend, Alexis Wilkins, totally delusional and paranoid legal behavior.
Schaefer is one of a number of prominent social media personalities sued by Wilkins over what she says are damaging and false claims that she is an agent of Israeli intelligence working as a honeypot to compromise Patel.
Newsweek has contacted Schaefer via social media, and you know, they're waiting for comment.
They go on to mention that Wilkins is a country music singer, podcast host, writer, and political commentator.
She and Patel reportedly started dating in early 23.
While their relationship has been public knowledge for some time, Wilkins' name has been pushed into the conversation following conspiracy theories circulating online about her.
And Patel issuing a statement where he slammed baseless attacks against her.
Now, I have to agree, I don't think she is a Mossad agent.
They've been dating long before Cash was in the administration or working for the FBI.
And I believe she's been here on IRL before, as well as Cash.
We've known them for years.
I'll put it this way: knowing Kash Patel, understanding the politics around him and his job with the Trump administration, I'm pretty sure they're not, it's not a spy.
She's not Mossad.
I don't want to say too much to air people's private business, but Cash was working really, really hard to be a part of this administration.
And it was all very, I got to admit, like what I had seen in the conversations we had had, it was very human, very normal, very job application-y.
I didn't see anything weird happening behind the scenes.
Now, that's not to say that I know for sure.
Certainly, stranger things have happened.
But now the story has developed a little bit further.
Elijah Schaefer points out, he says, my family has been criminally doxxed due to Alexis Wilkins' frivolous lawsuit.
The FBI director Kash Patel's proxy lawsuit was meant to intimidate me and silence my online voice.
It contains malicious lies to dehumanize me.
We now have to leave our home.
Followed by the FBI has now designated my personal security and operations manager, a national security threat with the four S's, it's called.
Well, Jernandez, actually, I'm sorry, we have first ALX and then Brianna Morello.
And I'll get to Juran at this point.
ALX says, administration official, quote, the quadruple S designation, in this case is random, could be due to all passengers being booked on the same passenger notification record.
Instance was a mere coincidence.
Thousands of Americans experience extra screening daily.
Individual is not watchlisted, and they were not detained.
Interesting.
Brianna Morello says, TSA tells me Elijah Schaefer is not a security threat and was not targeted with Quadruple S. His producer was simply a random selection that happens all the time to people through our system.
He wasn't detained, wasn't arrested.
The Quadruple S is not the Quiet Skies program.
They're claiming it's just slight enhanced screening.
We're going to be joined by Elijah in just a minute.
We're getting him geared up and ready to go.
But there's some more context.
Jernandez says, I got quad S after the Rittenhouse trial and was told directly from TSA, you're on a list you don't want to be on.
The fact this is still happening in 2025 with Trump in the White House is a disgrace.
Well, my friends, as we wait for them to bring in Elijah, he's getting ready.
He's in the, you know, we have the, you know, you got to do the old video setup.
I will tell you my thoughts on this, and then we'll bring it to Elijah to explain.
After Occupy Wall Street, I had been invited to speak at many places.
I flew to London.
As I was boarding my return flight to New York, the ticket I had had four S's on it.
I didn't know what it meant, and I didn't think much of it.
I went to a board, and when I scanned my ticket to board the plane, they said, you've been randomly chosen for an additional screening.
And I laughed and said, uh-huh.
A guy in his suit walked up and asked me to follow him, brought me down these stairs, and there was a folding table where he asked me to place my bag.
And I said, random, huh?
And he's like, well, you're on a list, man.
And he laughed.
And I laughed.
I said, probably.
Considering Occupy Wall Street, this is what I expected to be the case.
Around this time, I had been stopped.
And I will tell you this.
I'll tell you where it gets real crazy.
I get stopped at LaGuardia, and I have a bag.
There's a technical issue right now for the interview, so I'm going to patter and tell you some stories while we wait for Elijah to get set up.
I had a backpack.
It was a camera bag.
It contained my camera gear, my laptop.
And I had a USB drive with some journalistic information that my friend had gathered that he wanted me to hold on to in the event that he was working on some stories and he had said, look, if in the event I don't come back from overseas, like here's a copy of everything I'm working on.
I said, okay.
So I go to LaGuardia.
I'm standing in line.
And I get told, I have been chosen for a random screening.
But wait, I had already placed my bags on the conveyor belt as they were about to go through the x-ray.
And they said, oh, actually, sir, you've been chosen for a random screening.
And I said, okay, can you grab my bags for me?
I said, no, we can't do that.
You need to come with us.
And I said, I'm not going to leave my bag where I can't see it.
And they said, sir, we have to screen you.
You've been flagged.
This is like, we have to do this.
And they said, don't worry, your bag is right there.
We're watching it.
Everything will be fine.
What am I supposed to do?
I said, I want my bag.
And they outright said, sir, you'll be standing right here.
I couldn't see my bag.
They wanna me, they search me, they pat me down, and they say, false alarm.
They didn't literally say false alarm.
They said, all clear, this is normal.
It happens.
I go to grab my bag.
I walk to the plane.
And guess what?
The backup USB drive is gone.
Yep.
They took it.
I don't know who took it.
I don't know why they took it, but they took it.
It was gone.
And the worst thing was, I complained.
I said, guys, if you wanted the stories that my buddy was working on, you can have them.
I'll plug it in your computer.
You can take whatever you want.
It's just, that was at the time, a very expensive USB stick.
Jeez, at least reimburse me for it.
Looks like we got Elijah.
He's good up and ready to go.
So I hope you enjoyed the stories.
But let's bring in Elijah right now to talk to us about what is currently going on.
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And here we go.
tim pool
I think we got it good to go.
Booting it up, pulling it in.
And I believe we've got Elijah right here.
Elijah.
elijah schaffer
Are we live?
tim pool
We are live, sir.
How's it going?
elijah schaffer
Dude, it's going well.
Sorry.
Apparently you guys are getting a pixelated video, but we have a gig up here.
So can't tell if it's the FBI doing this or the Jews.
No, I'm just kidding.
tim pool
So this is actually pre-recorded.
It's not live, just so you know, but we're recording this right now.
So I've been finding a story.
Actually, while we were trying to figure out the technical issues, I was telling a story about how I've had similar things with the quadruple ask on my pass.
And I was told when I was in London when I got this that I was on a list that the reason why when I printed my pass out, I got this.
I was on a list.
So let's start from the beginning.
And just like, so you're getting sued by the director of the FBI's girlfriend.
Now your producer is getting flagged for additional like security screenings.
You got doxxed.
What's happening?
elijah schaffer
Okay, so a few weeks ago, we started noticing some weird activity.
What I'm holding in my hand right here is a letter from Citibank.
And I get a letter in Citibank that says, hi, Elijah.
One or more of your authorized users on your business account has been identified as someone who can no longer service as a result.
We've disclosed your current account and opened up new accounts, excluding certain individuals, i.e. Michael Hennessy, my operations manager.
And I go, that's weird.
So Citibank closes my business accounts, cancels all of my, include my personal accounts, by the way, shuts everything down.
And I get, I can't use my card.
My wife is visiting her family in Australia.
She's like, I can't buy groceries.
And so I was like, okay, well, I don't know what's going on.
So they tell me they can't send me new cards.
I call them.
They tell me there's something going on.
Like, what is going on?
Why are you canceling all of our accounts?
And they're like, well, there's some sort of a federal flag of certain individuals on the account.
And so basically we have to kind of like restart new accounts.
It's like, okay, this is weird.
Michael Hennessy has over 800.
I ask him, like, he has over 800 credit score.
He's, you know, he's 40 years old.
He's owned homes.
He has a good credit history.
We go look at his account.
He's got no dings.
We call them.
We're like, can you tell us what's wrong?
And they're like, it's actually a security measure.
And you have to send in facts in a request and we're going to have to run it through basically executives and this whole thing that we can't tell you.
So we're like, we started getting suspicious.
We're like, this is really weird.
Like, why would we get bank accounts shut down for our company?
tim pool
Was this real quick?
Was this before the lawsuit?
elijah schaffer
Well, they haven't even served me the lawsuit.
So we've been, we've been, we've been on their tail for about for about a couple, like about six, seven weeks here.
We've been kind of figuring out something was going wrong.
And then we found out what was going on before they were able to leak it thanks to an accidental leak by one of Josh Hammer's journalists, who's not very good, by the way.
And the funny part is, so we're kind of like suspicious, right?
We're like, what's going on?
So we've been digging and calling people trying to figure out what's happening.
And might I mind you, you know, myself and Michael have had a lot of problems with the FBI.
The FBI actually is so incompetent.
Listen to this.
They raided his home and took his phone because they connected him to January 6th.
They returned his phone to him earlier this year once he got pardoned by the FBI and they gave him the wrong phone.
So they didn't even like return the right property.
Like that's how like this is not a joke.
The FBI came and gave him back his property and it was somebody else's property.
They called him like, hey, we dropped off the wrong property to you.
So that's the FBI we're dealing with here.
And so for individuals that are like, you know, I saw Brianna Morello be like, well, I called the TSA and the TSA said they're not doing anything, you know, malicious.
Like, Brianna, I love Brianna.
And I go, Brianna, that's like calling McDonald's and being them being like, you know, all of our ice cream machines really do work all the time.
You know, they actually work.
You know, like, okay, well, I saw, I saw Lisa Reynolds also posted.
That's like calling Wells Fargo and them saying, no, we're not assessing dishonest fees on our mortgages.
You know, like, that's all right.
It's, it's got, it's so funny.
So, so track ahead, uh, Sam Parker gets sued and he reaches out to me and says, hey, like the journalists or, you know, kind of mentioned that you were going to be involved in some like serious takedown from from Newsweek.
This is a journalist said, like, do you know anything about Elijah and this new like takedown?
They use the phrase takedown.
And so he gets information from Barry Wise's team and also from Josh Hammer's team.
They're kind of investigating.
We've got two different journalistic teams on this case.
And those names always are suspicious to me.
Why are they everywhere?
Why are they everywhere?
Why is Barry Weiss and Josh Hammer everywhere in this weird stuff?
So it kind of comes down to the fact that then we end up basically going, okay, well, if they're going to file a suit, I get a federal lawyer.
We go ahead and request at the state level.
And they're like, there's been no filings.
There's no lawsuits.
There's no charges.
There's no accusations.
And then we're like, there wouldn't be a federal charge or lawsuit heading my way from someone, right?
And we look in it, which is unprecedented, my lawyer said.
It's a federal lawsuit for what would be considered even a local municipality accusation.
This is like not a serious, this is not harassment.
This is not sex-based harassment.
This is not sexual harassment or any type of a stalking assault.
This is nothing that requires security or some backing of a national, you know, which is more expensive to operate, by the way, a national level court system.
They file it the highest court in Florida, the highest court.
By the way, in the, this is a key significant point, in the most Jewish district, which then we were like, well, I mean, it doesn't matter.
I never thought about that before.
But then you realize when you read the suit and it's all about making me seem like an anti-Semite and anti-Israel, that you see the motivation.
Because they don't want it to be civil.
They want a jury trial.
They're demanding jury, or I can settle out of court by giving them all of my assets.
tim pool
That is still civil, just to clarify.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, but I'm saying they didn't just want to like settle like, hey, look, you pay out or you take down.
There was no demands, like retract, take down the statements.
They never put a cease and desist out.
They never sent an email.
They never did anything in a way of like trying to mitigate the issue.
Like if they wanted to post down, not only are my DMs open, not only like I was, there was, I'm going to say who, but there was somebody on my couch staying at my house.
I was like, I'm texting, you know, I always text Alexis Wilkins.
Like, we're not divided.
She could get my number very easily.
So meaning it was always suspicious because we saw the lawsuit and we're like, they never did anything to mitigate the issue.
Which is weird.
tim pool
What are they arguing?
They're arguing you defamed her or what?
elijah schaffer
Yeah.
So it's called defamation by implication is what they're what their standard is.
And they're saying that I, this is legitimately what it's, what's worded in there, that I had actual malice according to their court docs and that I wanted to basically destroy their lives.
And I'm going to add on cash giving her security, unprecedented security, which is, I believe, the first time in history for a girlfriend, non-spouse that doesn't live at the residence that were using taxpayer dollars, allegedly, to now give her security, taking that detail off of protecting SWAT members who were under threat of being assassinated because she got some mean text messages.
I mean, not to mention you've been SWAT, God knows how many times.
I mean, how many death threats do I get every day?
We don't get taxpayer funded security.
I'd like it.
I'm sure you could use it, but we have to pay for our security.
So do I.
But going down into this, my legal team told me they're like, the way this is worded is they predicted her getting security that they're trying to make it look like you've put her and the FBI director in potential harm's way.
Like, so he even told me, he goes, if they get start getting threats or anything about this, they're going to imply that they're going to need extra security.
My lawyer told me this.
He's so good.
He's like, they told me basically they're going to get security.
They're going to kind of escalate and elevate this to make it seem like your retweeting of a picture is making them possibly get murdered.
And that's sort of why it's like he's an anti-Semite.
He's evil.
He's bad.
He's in this bad area of the internet.
He's inviting, you know, it says, you know, he knows what people are saying.
He knew what this would do.
He knew the kind of attention it would bring onto us.
And it essentially is trying to not say that I defamed her, but it's saying that I, out of my hatred for Israel.
And I mean, you and I have a very funny clip that I saw viral the other day with about 6 million views.
I was laughing at the views because it was like, it was just us going, Jew, Jewish, Jew, Juke, Jew, Jew, Jew, Jup, Jew.
So like we have had those conversations, but that's where it, that's, I'm just telling people, there's three pages of the documents.
There's three pages of the document about my quotes about Israel and my opinions on Israel.
If you count the other verbiage, it's four pages.
There's a half a page of the document that contains any information about me defaming Alexis Williams.
tim pool
So they've done nothing.
They've not asked for any money.
They've not asked for any like takedowns.
They've, hey, delete this post, nothing like that or what?
elijah schaffer
Nope.
They just want $5 million.
And if I can't pay, they want to acquire my assets.
Now, I want to put something important here.
So not only so, this is what's horrible.
So I've been like not just not just doxxed.
People are writing things on how to find my son's bedrooms, how to murder them, to rape and kill my wife.
It's gotten disgusting and they have all my information.
I'm getting threatening phone calls.
And of course, you know, this is where there's a lot of conflict of interest.
Do I go to the FBI over this?
When the FBI directors, this is due to the FBI director's girlfriend's lawsuit.
I'm not saying she is causing this.
I just want to clarify.
And I've given her a chance to publicly condemn this.
I publicly condemned her death threats.
I said, hey, look, no one should be threatening anyone and that she's a public figure.
So she should not be getting threatened.
tim pool
Who filed the suit?
Like, who's the plaintiff?
elijah schaffer
Well, she's the plaintiff, but here's the deal.
This is where we might be in a slap issue, Tim, because what it looks like, like basically people on the inside, this is just conjecture.
So this is a matter in court, but people have told me that, you know, Cash was getting pretty upset at me.
Someone said they had a conversation with Cash and he was kind of just like ranting, kind of pissed about the shit that I was putting on online.
I had quite a few viral tweets.
Most of them were just humorous.
And I was like, they always said you couldn't trust an Indian in a business deal.
And it's like cash to like, you know, not release Epstein files or whatever.
Just typical like 90s trolling, you know, Halo chat room humor, right?
I mean, him being Indian has nothing to do with not releasing the Epstein files.
Clearly, it's that's a government corruption issue, a systemic issue.
But I'm going to have my fun.
And so he has this legal team in DC.
So mind you, she's supposed to be living in Tennessee.
He apparently doesn't, I mean, he's, I guess he's staying at a military base or something, people say in the DC area.
But he's also put himself apparently in government housing with extra protection, which would make sense for an FBI director.
I mean, that's not weird.
tim pool
Especially considering, well, I mean, with the extraneous deep state issues, I think Cash might be worried.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, yeah, it's fair.
But to put it as a, like, in the hilarity of this is like.
I want to touch on this one part in a second, but they're constantly talking about where do I get my funding from?
And the views on my show don't match the size of my show.
Meanwhile, they're talking about how I'm irrelevant and no one cares about what I say.
Meanwhile, they're just constantly talking about me like this guy.
They always do that.
This guy's irrelevant.
Nobody follows him.
Meanwhile, I've dedicated the last two weeks of my life talking about him every day and also using, you know, potentially hundreds of thousands of dollars to try to ruin his life, but he's not important and it doesn't matter who he is.
She is using an extremely expensive legal team, Bernal, based out of DC.
So it's really weird too.
My lawyer said it's really weird that she used federal court to then get a DC team that is heavily entrenched in the federal court system that is actually her boyfriend's personal legal team and also board director of his foundation.
So she's using the FBI director's paid legal resources.
I don't know if it's taxpayer funded.
I don't know if Cash has a lot of money or donors that are paying for this, but I looked at her Spotify views.
And though I, I thank you, Cash, for letting us know right before this that she is a country music sensation.
So everyone's like, oh, she's just a private citizen.
So am I, buddy.
Private citizen doesn't mean you're not a public figure.
Private citizen means you're not a government employee.
She's not a government employee, but not only did he say that she's a public figure, Cash told us that.
The FBI director said, you are a public figure, but getting seven, maybe 8,000 views, you know, on Spotify per week, you would ask yourself the question, where is she affording lawyers that are between $900 to $3,000 an hour to litigate something like this?
It ain't from singing the Star Spangled Banner.
tim pool
Could it be that you offended Cash's girlfriend and he's like, I'll go to war over this.
I'll go to war for my girlfriend.
elijah schaffer
Oh, 100, well, 100%.
I was going to say what's weird about this.
This also seems like a proxy related to Cash for two reasons that people don't know.
So basically, which is, you should never do in a lawsuit, by the way, Alexis.
And I wish you wouldn't have done this.
I made a post that I posted that picture.
I'll admit that.
I did post a picture of them.
It was posted to her Instagram.
Meanwhile, so then she starts taking a post.
People know that I've recently, you know, I guess it's here.
I've recently started converting to Orthodox Christianity.
And, you know, you've known me.
I'm kind of like, have a reputation for being a partier, like whatever.
I mean, people are into weird things, you know.
Now, you also know I've been slandered a lot too by people for absolutely baseless BS.
You know, if anyone's watching this, you probably even know me from the slander and the BS that people have said.
Yet, you know, never, never had a lawsuit.
I haven't won.
I'm not in jail.
You know, people say a lot of things about a lot of people.
So I've never claimed to be perfect.
I don't try to make the world think I'm perfect.
I had put a post out just saying like, hey, look, I'm not perfect.
I realize I want to follow God.
And now I've realized this is going to be a much bigger deal than I thought because I'm going to actually have to change my actions.
And as of right now, this is the longest I've been sober in over three years.
Congratulations.
Yeah.
And so it's, you know, it doesn't mean anything, but meaning I literally was basically just admitting my faults, being like, yeah, I'm like an imperfect guy.
And like, this is crazy because I'm going to have to like stop doing what I love.
I love drinking.
I love partying.
God says not to do that.
She retweets it and starts like mocking my faith.
Like, you think you're a real Christian and this and that.
And like, meanwhile, you're, you're a meanie pants.
It's literally how it sounds.
You're a meanie pants.
How dare you, you know, try to say you're Christian with all the evil things you say about me.
tim pool
But is this?
elijah schaffer
I've never said anything evil about her.
I don't even said anything about her except now.
tim pool
Is this like, do you, are you saying, or do you believe that this is like this personal drama has turned into a federal filing against you?
elijah schaffer
Yes.
Well, Cash, I think, is using it because you see all this, and then his lawyer is also like in the comments.
Anytime she's attacking me, he's like backing her up, but not like a lawyer.
It's like a friend.
Like, yeah, Alexis is right.
You know, he is a meanie pants.
And then.
tim pool
Well, Elijah, you are a meanie pants.
I mean, come on.
elijah schaffer
I am known to be a little bit of an asshole.
And I agree.
I am a little bit, but you got to be a little bit.
To the right people, though.
You know, like Joel Barry and Seth Dylan have lost their minds and they don't even realize they don't know how to fight the left anymore.
They're like fighting anyone who's they're fighting Catholic white guys now.
It's really a weird fight.
I don't know what they're doing.
Anyway, funny joke about the pager guys.
I'm sure Megan Kelly being killed was a good ground for the discussion.
tim pool
That is an interesting point too, because I haven't had an opportunity to mention this, but I made a point.
I said that the Megan Kelly joke was probably deleted because it was more offensive to Israel than it was to Megan Kelly, because it implied Israel would murder American citizens who criticize them.
I had pro-Azra people respond with, no, the joke is that Megan Kelly is paranoid about Israel.
That's wrong.
In the Babylon B article, the last line was her garbage can exploded outside of her house.
The joke was that Israel did try to murder Megan Kelly.
And I think they realized that and took it down.
It's kind of this weird space right now.
And I know it seems like it's only tangentially related to what you're talking about.
No, this is the big rift right now.
I mean, it's an accusation of Mossad involvement, comments on Israel and these individuals who are debating.
This Israel issue is a big split on the right.
And I suppose the question then is, what you're dealing with, is this just, hey, look, there's a powerful guy named Kash Patel and you insulted his girlfriend.
And so you got to bear the brunt of what a powerful man can do?
Or is this because of your politics?
And they're saying we'll use this as a way to go after Elijah.
elijah schaffer
But that is what's going on, and I'm confident because— But which one?
The law— Well, I'm saying because the lawsuit, it is about going after your politics.
And that's why it's like on the side.
And I know that because basically we have evidence that the lawsuit was actually suggested by Cash's lawyer, not by Alexis.
And he saw an opportunity to come in and to use Alexis's personal drama with me, which I didn't even know was happening.
But it's such a funny thing.
Alexis is such a big country music star.
I didn't even know she was having drama with me.
She was like fighting herself, basically.
And even this whole fight, you can literally describe it as your wife getting divorcing you because you cheated on her in her dreams.
That's literally what this is.
It's like, it's like, wait, wait, you're mad at me for saying things I didn't?
Like, I posted a picture of your face.
You're at war with your own image.
Such an anecdote of women's struggles there.
You're at war with your own image and without words being said.
But apparently she's a nice girl behind the scenes.
And that's irrelevant.
But the point is, is that it looks like he suggested it.
And it looks like Cash was kind of frustrated with my criticisms of his handling of Epstein.
Obviously, that's connected to Israel.
And so, you know, by saying that I hate Israel, it also can discredit my criticisms of Cash and Epstein because they kind of be like, well, publicly, look, this guy, he's not really criticizing Cash.
He's basically just an anti-Semite.
And so therefore, his criticism about Epstein is he just really hates Epstein.
He's trying to blame Israel.
So he's just kind of like doing that.
That's kind of what it appeared that they were trying to kind of paint this as.
tim pool
Maybe, I know there's going to be a lot of people who want to go the political route and be like, because of the positions you've taken, personally, I look at it more like, hey, look, man, you insulted a guy's girlfriend.
He's going to go to war with you.
You know what I mean?
And this guy happens to be particularly powerful in terms of access to resources and connections.
I'm not saying anything is right, right?
I'm saying I feel like the motivation is there's a guy who's like, don't talk about my girlfriend.
You know what I mean?
elijah schaffer
Well, and look, and it could be, and I want to be balanced on that regard.
He did publicly talk about this before the lawsuits were put out, but I want to clarify, they tried to keep this a secret and they had a PR campaign allegedly that they were going to use to try to take me down.
And they were getting Barry Wise's team, Josh Hammer's team involved in this to try to like create this thing.
And we, we found out about it and then made it public, which is why like she hasn't really been tweeting and they haven't really been saying anything.
We sort of like blew the lid on the operation.
It was going to try to like take me down and they were searching for other info to grab me on.
Now, the problem is, is Alexis, I'd ask you, probably ask your associates at Prague or you coming after me to stop illegally defaming me and slandering me because that doesn't look good because now it looks like you're trying to attack my character and ruin my life by painting me number one in defamatory litigation to like to paint me.
It's not about you.
The whole thing is about making me seem bad.
And then you have your associates that are also registered representatives of the organization you work for taking jabs.
Like, and this is how these people are so ridiculous.
You know, there's this guy named like Xavier DiRandaso or something like that.
Yeah, he's got the top ramen here.
And, you know, he's an interesting fellow.
And like, unrelated to this, you know, he just like responds and is like, you know, I was thanking Andrew Colvett and Tyler Boyer.
I was sort of just like, hey, thanks for inviting me back out to Amfest.
You know, shortly before Charlie was murdered, I was invited to rejoin Turning Point.
I figured maybe that wasn't the case anymore.
And I was told I was blacklisted.
I was told directly that the reason why I was blacklisted from the management and from middle management was blocking me was because donors were not happy with Tucker at SAS.
And there was a lot of conflict.
And so I was being blocked because they didn't want to upset people.
There's a lot of behind the scenes, right?
tim pool
Turning point blocked you from coming to doing what?
elijah schaffer
So I am a registered speaker with Turning Point.
People know that the only reason why I wasn't speaking for a couple of years because I was living in Australia.
I'm still on their website.
When you go, when a school goes to book a speaker and there's pre-approved speakers, I'm a pre-approved Turning Point speaker.
I am like not just allowed to go.
I am actually on their list, approved by donors, the board, everything.
I have a profile in their system.
I've never been taken out of that.
I came back to the United States, had several schools immediately tried to book me and their directors.
I have all the emails and stuff.
I turned them.
I showed Turning Point that I had the evidence.
I go, they're being told that they cannot book myself or Candace Owens.
That's what they're being told.
Because I told the club I'm smart.
I'm like, well, you can't book me.
Tell them to book, you want to book Candace.
And they kept saying anyone but Candace or Elijah, anyone but Candace or Elijah.
Candace is also, I think, on retainers.
So it's very weird.
So I obviously was like.
tim pool
Candace on retainer with Turning Point?
elijah schaffer
Well, I thought, I think at the time, right, this is like a while ago.
Even right now, wow.
No, no, no, no, no.
This is a while ago.
So obviously, I've been back for over a year now.
Obviously, I sort of was like, okay, fine, turning point.
You want to do this?
So I messaged Colvet.
He left me on red.
And I was just kind of like, whatever.
Now, Colvett called me about two weeks before Charlie was murdered and was like, dude, I didn't, I wasn't ignoring you.
I've been busy.
And he was really kind about it and kind of like, dude, like he literally told me like, dude, honestly, like you and Charlie honestly have a lot of the same like ideas and thoughts and everything.
And like, we'd love to have you back.
We're not blacklisting you.
Like, I'll go clear this up, but I'm letting you know.
And I'm not saying anything confidential, just kind of like letting you know that, like, this is not a higher management decision to block you.
This is middle management trying to probably maintain donor relationships and keep, you know, people happy after they're mad that we platformed Tucker with the whole and Megan Kelly, the whole Israel stuff.
That, that's probably, that's probably why you're being blocked.
Well, then, you know, they called me after the fact the other day.
They called me and they're like, no, you actually still come.
We still want you around, whatever.
So it was interesting because they also said, you know, things are changing.
You know, like Charlie's, you know, open to this stuff.
I got all that information two weeks before he was murdered.
So that was weird.
Yeah, that was really what Marjorie got kind of invited and called, you know, people that weren't really thought they would be involved in Turning Point got brought in.
We could have a lot of conversations, man, on and off air.
unidentified
But going forward, go ahead.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, going forward, kind of, to how weird these people are.
I put out a post with me and Charlie on a stage in front of 10,000 kids at Amfest.
And I'm just like, hey, you know, guys, just so you know, like, I'm kind of putting some goodwill out there to Turning Point.
I'm like, hey, you know, I was blacklisted for this for my Israeli views.
They've, they've said they're going to fix that.
And I'll be at Amfest and kind of like kind of putting that pressure back on them publicly announcing what they said.
Like, so see me at Amfest.
We'll see what happens.
And like one of the Prager U reps, Xavier with the Tuck Ramen hair, the gay black queen of the conservative movement, we all love those.
He comes out and he's like, actually, which is, this is like actual defamation, right?
This is like genuine defamation.
He's like, you were banned because you were like attending underage drinking after parties and cheating on your wife, which is like, like, it's like, what are you talking about?
Like, you have no idea about anything.
And also, that's the most like ridiculous statement to make in the middle of the defamation case to say something that's completely false.
That's what defamation is.
It's like with malice, you're trying to hurt my credibility by saying that you're actually not allowed into the fold because you committed crimes.
Well, 10 moral sins.
tim pool
To clarify, malice in the legal standard means reckless disregard for the truth or knowingly lying.
elijah schaffer
He knows that's false.
And then he follows up.
So I said, enjoy your $7,000 under there.
And which by the way, they get paid a lot more at Prager for working there.
But, you know, mind you, no worries that Alexis Wilkins works with an organization who's, you know, got a spy that leads it.
Merciful Strait's great, though, as a human being.
I don't have a problem with her.
But I mean, there's a lot of questions there.
But then under there, it's like, dude, this is so stupid.
This is how, this is how they work.
Then he's like, yeah, you know, I remember the first and only time I met you.
It was at this party at Turning Point.
It turns out the host was 20 years old.
It's like, after he got back killing a Arab family in Iraq, he drank a beer at 20.
Oh my gosh.
Meanwhile, it's like, he's like, then I, then I left.
So the guy's so dumb.
He's like saying, you're bad because you're going to parties with underage people.
Admits to going.
He admits to being at underage drinking parties.
And then he blames Turning Point.
He blames Turning Point.
And then it's like, I didn't know the host of the party was 20.
Also, who gives a damn?
I wouldn't, I don't care about that kind of stuff.
You live in a, this is, I'm a 90s kid, baby.
I don't, I don't care.
But also going forward, all of this just is just crazy because when you come down to it, he's one of Alexis Wilkins' good friends, associates, and spokespersons for her organization defaming me, meaning I believe this is coordinated.
I believe this is coordinated assassination of character.
tim pool
You know, I can't comment necessarily on the inner workings of like the lawsuit or what that all is, but I do think there's something interesting in that what I've been hearing even behind the scenes, and I'll probably talk about later today or tomorrow or something.
Nobody wants to hear it, but the right is breaking apart into a bunch of different pieces.
There's infighting in every major facet of the right coalition or the movement, whatever you want to call it.
There's obvious the obvious stuff like Tucker and Fuentes.
There's Candace.
There's the stuff you're talking about.
And believe it or not, I got stuff to talk about too that, oh, bro.
You know, I'm, I think by the midterms, probably there will be some unity.
But I have to wonder if there is an intentional destruction of the right.
And I honestly, like, why wouldn't there be?
The left certainly doesn't want to lose politically.
And if we were to engage in some kind of major conflict, wouldn't the first moves be psychological before they get into, you know, let's just say more extreme elements.
If we're already seeing terror attacks, assassinations and murders, wouldn't there not also be psychological attacks, lawfare, manipulation, et cetera, on the board.
So I have to wonder if all of this infighting we're seeing is actually flames being fanned and flames fanned intentionally to break the coalition and disrupt Trump, the right, or whatever, moving into a midterm.
elijah schaffer
Well, yeah, and this is what I want to, I want to answer that by talking about this Xavier thing because I think I'd like to use facts and names and people, right?
I hate talking about these big ideas and division or whatever.
It's like, okay, you have Alexis Wilkins forming this lawsuit connected to the FBI and the Trump admin.
It's not being paid for by her clearly, allegedly, by possibly by him or by some sort of donor.
Then she's claiming defamation, but the defamation case is about me being my comments on Israel.
That's the key factor.
It has nothing to do with her defamation.
It's because I'm against Israel.
Therefore, anything I post where she's mentioned is insinuating that she's a spy, which is crazy statement, but that's what she's saying.
Then you go to this Xavier guy who he has to correct himself because he makes it seem like I'm like, he makes it sound like I'm giving alcohol to minors.
Meanwhile, all he's saying is I showed up at a party who the host happened to be 20, like as if that's a crime, like walking into someone's house where there's like every other influencer.
Fails to mention every other turning point representative and influencers there, which now makes turning point look bad because now you're saying there's underage drinking at turning point events.
So I don't know what this guy's doing.
You got Prager U calling another nonprofit, calling another nonprofit out, saying they're serving alcohol to minors.
Xavier just said that Turning Point is providing alcohol to minors.
Okay, that's what he said in his post without realizing it.
Then he admits to being there, which is weird, and then has to clarify, well, they're not minors.
They're underage.
They're 20.
Meanwhile, like, who goes around and is like, who's the host of this party?
tim pool
Who's the host?
elijah schaffer
Show me your ID.
And it's like, how would you know that?
Okay.
So that's weird.
It's like, why are you talking to guys and getting their IDs?
That's weird.
Yes.
tim pool
I don't know if we have time to like break through every granular element of what's going on.
We're a bit over, though.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I have an important point to say on this real fast.
tim pool
Yeah, you know, I was going to ask you.
elijah schaffer
So you go this and you're like, okay, it doesn't matter.
However, I want to read this one thing to you.
When you said there's psychological, I do believe that there is, because when you look at what people are saying, then you get other accounts.
This person said, Elijah Schaefer's trying to rewrite history about turning points.
This guy named the older millennial says, you didn't get blacklisted over your Israel views.
You got blacklisted.
Because now I had after parties.
He's changed it.
Now I'm throwing parties, drinking with minors, and I'm fucking around on my wife.
You can bleep that with multiple young girls.
So insinuating I'm a child molester or a rapist.
Like I'm inviting kids over my house, he's saying, and like having sex with kids.
This is like actually where it gets to.
This is a big account, by the way, with hundreds of thousands of people.
He says they blacklifted you, your pedo ass.
No, it's calling me a pedophile.
This is very serious stuff because you're weird, not because you don't like Israel.
And you click on his account, he's a massive Zionist, and all he does is post about Israel in favor of Israel.
So, but this goes from I'm being sued for posting a picture to now individuals and due to this lawsuit are threatening my life.
I've had to leave my house.
I want to clarify this.
This.
I've had to leave my house.
I've had to break my lease, get out of my house, move to an undisclosed location.
I've had to evacuate my family from the state due to real threats that are going on in my life.
The FBI doesn't care.
They've never reached out.
I have a field rep. They do reach out sometimes for other things.
Not on top of that now, the associates of Alexis are calling me a pedophile and claiming that I provide illegal substances to children and rape children.
Now, that's to me, that's what a foreign op looks like.
That is a very odd escalation of events.
And then in the midst of this, what happens?
She gets security because really she's the victim and this is very dangerous for her.
I have to say, if I ever saw a foreign op, it's like, and by the way, also adding in like Will Chamberlain and Wyatt Claypool, these guys are now launching investigations, trying to lobby the government to investigate me for Faro violations, claiming I'm being funded by Qatar or whatever.
And so it's like, this seems like a hit job on me.
And I don't think I'm the only person experiencing something like this.
To me, this seems way more coordinated, way more malicious than Alexis getting her feelings hurt.
And I would actually suggest, and I want to bring this, say this last point, I may actually suggest that Alexis may be a victim of something and they may be manipulating her emotions to use her to start a lawsuit to do what they wanted to do to me.
So she may be unaware of all this.
tim pool
Are you funded by Qatar?
elijah schaffer
If not, but I can give you my email if anyone out there.
If you have, it's Elijah at rifttv.com.
Shoot me the contact.
I would like to be funded by Qatar.
So I'm being genuine.
If you have millions, actually, hold up one second.
tim pool
Uh-oh.
elijah schaffer
Good news, everybody.
I just got a courier in the mail.
Anyways, Qatar did nothing wrong.
Thanks, guys.
There's another one coming, apparently.
tim pool
So, well, again, I don't think that we can get through every component of what's going on.
I just think, you know, my thoughts on this, it's interesting how obviously people are talking about what's going on with you in this lawsuit.
It's made it to Newsweek.
It's made it to a bunch of these, you know, more like mediaites talking about it.
Then you get this quadruple S.
It's a bit demoralizing to see the current state of the right.
But, well, thanks for joining and shedding light on your views on it and everything that's going on.
Where can people find you?
elijah schaffer
Yeah, yeah, guys.
Check this out.
So we're back on YouTube.
I know this is more of a YouTube channel.
On Rumble, you can find us too, but on YouTube, I got two channels.
So I got one called the Rift, Rift TV, R-A-F-T-TV.
That's a weekly show that's live.
But I also resurrected my slightly offensive channel, which you cannot find.
It doesn't show up in search and there's no suggestion.
But I've decided in this day and age, you don't need algorithms anymore.
People will find your content and it's been working.
People are finding the videos.
It's very, very staunchly right-wing content.
So slightly offensive.
And also Rift TV from our neutral news analysis.
You can also follow me at Elijah Schaefer on X. Tim, A, thank you so much, man.
I really appreciate all the work that you do.
I love the nuance.
And I also am pretty much excited for what's ahead because we still don't know who was behind the killing of Charlie Kirk.
I think we all have a lot of questions and we still want justice for that.
So we're going to stay on board and keep fighting until we continue to hold those accountable, accountable for killing our friend.
tim pool
Right on, brother.
Well, thanks for hanging out.
We'll see you next time.
elijah schaffer
Cheers.
tim pool
All right.
Everybody, that is, of course, Elijah Schaefer.
What a wild story this is turning into.
These tweets are getting a ton of traction, millions of views.
And so, what can I say?
But there is the challenge of Cash is a friend of the show.
We've had him on several times.
I'm an advocate.
I think he does great work.
I am not here to impugn his honor, nor Elijah, who is also a friend of men on the show.
And you find yourself in weird positions sometimes where, you know, look, the drama, the infighting, it's demoralizing.
And I have not a bad word to say about Cash.
Actually, I'm a fan.
I think he's doing a pretty bang up job.
I think he's doing a good job.
I know a lot of people are concerned about whether the absentee files are going to be released or his opinions and views on these things.
I think he's been straightforward with us.
When he appeared on the show before Trump, joining the Trump bedman, his appeals have largely been consistent.
Not perfectly.
Nobody is.
But guys, if it's not cashing down, I mean, who else is there?
Who's going to get the job done for you?
Take your wins where you can.
That being said, as far as it goes with Elijah, I can't speak to that.
I got to be honest, that feels a bit personal.
You go after a man's girlfriend, man's going to defend his honor.
I mean, what can you expect?
It is what it is.
Smash that like button, share the show.
Stay tuned.
We got more to come.
Thanks for hanging out.
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