MAGA REVOLTS After Trump Defends H1-B Visas | Across The Pond
In this week's episode of Across the Pond, Tate and Connor break down President Trump's latest interview with Laura Ingraham, where he defends the H-1B visa program and sparks debate across the conservative base. The guys react to Dinesh D'Souza's commentary, Ben Shapiro's controversial statement, and the growing divide on immigration inside the movement. They also tackle Trump's call for Shamima Begum to be sent back to the UK, and what it means for national security, citizenship, and Western policy toward ISIS-linked returnees. Finally, they discuss the growing civil war within the Labour government. BUY CAST BREW COFFEE TO SUPPORT THE SHOW - https://castbrew.com/ Become A Member And Protect Our Work at http://www.timcast.com Host(s): Tate Brown @realTateBrown (everywhere) Connor Tomlinson @Con_Tomlinson (everywhere) My Second Channel - https://www.youtube.com/timcastnews Podcast Channel - https://www.youtube.com/TimcastIRL
If they've been relying on American voters to be replaced by a coalition of resentful outsiders and welfare-dependent immigrants, then the Republican Party has been the consent manufacturing plant for that to happen under the guise of cheap labor and being lobbied by corporations who employ Americans to then generate profits, the proceeds of which they use to lobby politicians to import their cheaper replacements.
Well, I appreciate all the positive feedback that our viewers gave us on last week's episode.
So I can only hope that we performing monkeys can keep entertaining you without having to turn to the sort of knife fight on the cruise ship deck from The Simpsons.
I mean, look, that's ultimately what we're here for is we're just content jockeys, content donkeys.
We're just here to present the news to you in a way that is not putting you to sleep.
So yeah, it was good to hear.
It's good to hear the feedback.
I think a lot of people are excited about the concept of the across the pond, the British and American thing.
As far as I know, no one's really doing it.
And so, I mean, I don't know, maybe we have lightning in a bottle.
I don't know.
But with that, we do have a lot of insanity this week.
Trump had a moment, though.
The plan trusters were tested this week.
There's no question about that.
You know, right, yeah.
So Trump obviously has this interview with Laurie Ingram that drops Tuesday.
And the messaging was off, to say the least.
It was pretty grim.
He basically gave a full-thirded endorsement of the H-1B program.
To the dismay of patriots everywhere, he said, well, you know, America actually might need labor from overseas that we might not have the talent at home.
Now, okay, look, there's no question that's pretty indefensible.
That's pretty horrible, horrible rhetoric.
That's kind of what you would expect to hear from like a Democrat.
Certainly not from Donald Trump.
But I think he got a little confused.
That's all I'm going to say.
I'm not coping.
You know, everyone's going to accuse me of coping.
I think he got a little confused.
I think he was referring specifically out in the back of his mind because the way Trump sort of works is he'll just kind of regurgitate what the last advisor told him.
So the last advisor was talking about this plant in Georgia.
It's a Korean manufacturing plant, and they had to bring over Korean workers to sort of train the locals on how to operate this manufacturing plant.
And ICE had conducted a raid there fairly recently.
And so Trump was saying, well, look, we might need to tone that down.
Again, I disagree.
I think I'd rather just give the gigs to untrained Americans and let us figure it out because I just don't really trust.
I don't really trust these visa holders to be compliant with our regulations.
I mean, we all saw the Vivek December crash out where, you know, he was saying how Americans are intrinsically lazy and like because we know we don't do homework all day and we have sleepovers and whatever.
And yeah, because people are posting all these H-1B listings where it's just like janitor gigs.
So it's like, okay, I see what Trump is saying, right?
I see he's like, okay, you know, in theory, you know, you could bring in these workers to help train the locals that maybe are a little, you know, need some guidance or whatever.
But that's just never been the case.
The H-1B program is always used just for battery farming Indians, effectively.
71% of recipients are Indian and then the next largest ethnicity is 12%, which are the Chinese.
And Trump in the same interview said, well, we need 600,000 Chinese students to prop up historically black colleges.
Is that what you voted for, guys?
Is it battery farming the sons and daughters of the CCP and MIT to prop up historically black colleges so that Trump can say he's done more for black people than Abraham Lincoln?
Look, I believe in trusting the plan and always chimping as a transatlantic strategy as it happens.
However, I do think that Trump has hit the ceiling of his baseness that all boomers have in that we know for a fact behind the scenes in the Department of Agriculture and the like, in the restaurant industry, there have been people that have been lobbying him to tone down the deportations, to rein in Stephen Miller a bit so they can keep their migrant slave class.
And so when Trump gives this example of the South Koreans working in the battery manufacturing plant, he sets up the false binary of, look, we either have illegal workers in a black economy pricing Americans out of their jobs, forcing them out of their homes because they can't afford to live in the towns and cities they grew up in because they don't have well-paying jobs despite taking on tons of college debt, or if we don't have illegal workers, we replace American labor with legal workers,
presuming that the qualifications in inferior education institutions overseas are exactly on parity with that of American institutions, which are much more expensive and much more rigorous.
And so if we don't have illegals, we get legals instead.
And what the problem is at the heart of MAGA is that there has been this sort of tech bro, entrepreneurial, co-belligerent faction that has entered the coalition.
We think of Vivek, we think of Elon Musk, because obviously it was Musk who first declared that he was going to go to war over H-1Bs, that that was his primary issue, was bringing in, you know, Indians to work in Silicon Valley tech firms rather than hiring Americans.
But the main driving force, whether it's the philosophical national conservatives like J.D. Bonds, or whether it's just the middle American patriots who don't need a comprehensive philosophy for why they love their country, why they want to protect their people, why they want to preserve their culture,
is that Trump in his immigration and economics rhetoric in this interview is picking the side of the tech bros who treat America as like a global bus station or a global job center or a shopping mall or a sports team rather than a home full of family members whose constituent parts are irreplaceable.
And what people want to hear from Trump is the American exceptionalist rhetoric, but not just American values or America's abilities at generating GDP, but it's the fact that all of those things are possible.
That America is the gravitational center of geopolitics.
America is a titan of industry.
America is a cultural manufacturing plant because the American people are exceptional.
And, you know, as a Brit, I claim credit for spawning you guys because you are our best invention.
And when Trump says, no, actually, in order to increase the GDP, we need tons of Chinese students and tons of cheap Indian workers.
I'm sorry, that's just not America first.
And so the base is chimping by necessity.
And so the people are saying MAGA is over.
I don't think so.
Don't, you know, ostracize yourself from the ability to exert pressure on the administration to kick this up the chain from, you know, State Department staffers that are reading their feeds and following Anons all the way to Vice President Fance, President Trump.
But do chimp because they do listen and they're getting this wrong.
And if they don't solve the immigration question, they're going to get it wrong intergenerationally and they're going to render multiple states just like California when Reagan did amnesty.
There's sort of a there's sort of a ceiling for baseness that you can really get from a baby boomer.
And, you know, Trump, he wasn't, I mean, he's, you know, always been a fairly political guy as far as like he had opinions, but he wasn't a politico per se, and he never really has been.
Probably never will be.
So when he came into politics, obviously, his first gig was president.
The people that surrounded him started giving him like alternative messaging when he's trying to like get policy, policy passed.
And unfortunately, he takes a lot of their advice.
For one, that's why you get that moment where, you know, we're saying, okay, we need these Chinese students to prop up these universities like the HBCUs.
That's because someone told him that that's like some sort of some sort of consulting group.
That's like that's consulting group written all over it.
That's something you would hear, you know, Nikki Haley say back in the day or Jeb Bush say back in the day.
It's crazy, though, because Nikki Haley and Hassan are to the right of Trump on this issue.
Like Nikki Haley is pointing out saying, as an Indian, no more Indians, please.
And the HBCUs thing, sorry to interrupt, but it's like you can guarantee that, as you said, a consultant has come to him and said, oh, this is like a one to two point bump among the brothers.
Therefore, make this marginal inroad with the fair weather friends of black voters who are wedded to the Democrat Party more than they are the wives and girlfriends and baby mamas they skip out on, but neglect your majority and also your most likely support base, which is young white guys who just want to get a job, own a home and have a family, and who are staring down not just an average age of homeownership being 40.
You're not just taking on lots of college debt to then work multiple jobs that don't actually allow them to repay said college debt because they're more technically qualified than the job market will allow, but also Trump's solution to lack of homeownership caused by mass migration, market competition, and Biden administration regulations is, well, let's add an extra 20 years to your mortgage and make your rent stuff.
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It's like, but please, please, I'm begging out here.
Well, I think that's why you saw you're seeing like Nikki Haley, where you're seeing DeSantis outflanked to the right is because I think they've realized that the consulting class is part of the reason they are like being hamstrung.
And so now they're listening to their staffers for messaging on a lot of these things, even if the policy isn't great.
Because honestly, like you, you pulled a hood up on a lot of these supposedly really based guys and you look at their voting records, not that great, but a lot of times their messaging is good.
And it's because they're getting it from their like Zoomer staffers.
And they're tapped in.
They're obviously on Twitter.
They're seeing the discourse as it's happening, these sorts of things.
But for Trump, he's completely insulated from that.
I mean, I would be very surprised.
I mean, I'm somewhat privy to the operations of the White House to a very limited degree.
I would be surprised if there was a Zoomer that was sort of, you know, providing counsel to Trump on a fairly regular basis.
And you do actually have that with like Nikki Haley.
So again, she has like a pre-built ideology that's just going to be principally opposed to America First.
But I mean, on the issues like visas, you know, her Zoomer staffers are like, hey, this is like a easy, easy money, easy winning issue.
Trump is completely caught flat-footed.
This is the same thing we saw with the Epstein stuff, you know, a few months ago, where, you know, by all accounts, Trump, Bondi was just completely out of step with what the base felt about the Epstein issue.
And it's kind of the same thing, which is, look, Bondi and Trump consume Fox News primarily.
That's how they're ingesting sort of takes, I guess you would say.
So anything that they don't develop organically, they're going to get through Fox News.
No one on Fox is talking about the Epstein stuff.
No one really cares in that sphere.
The Epstein stuff was a very online thing.
And I'm not saying it's, you know, whatever.
Everyone should be upset about how that was handled.
There's no question about that.
What I'm saying is that people online really, really cared about this.
This feels a little different, though, this H-1B reversal, because the Epstein stuff was always a sideshow.
It was Elon's idea to even include that as part of the 2024 campaign.
But the Visa thing kind of strikes at the heart of what Matt, like making America great again looks like, which is scab labor.
Like this has been consistently his number one issue, scab labor.
So that's why the betrayal feels a bit more like a betrayal.
But then I want to get to your point as well is, yeah, there's a difference between calculated critiques, chimping.
There's a huge difference between that and yeah, these like people that I think were almost excited to see Trump slip up.
There's an entire sphere that's just so desperate to be able to say, I told you so, that they're just waiting for the first instance of Trump having a blunder to then trot out and declare that MAGA is dead.
And they also, these people, when they do declare this, I mean, they're all over this week.
Panicans, as a lot of them have been dubbed, they never really provide an alternative to Trump.
So they'll be the first people to ankle by and say, like, oh, Trump, you know, he's not the guy, or MAGA is dead, these sorts of things.
But they never really provide an alternative.
They just kind of, because I think right-wing media, the way it's developed thus far, was inherently contrarian.
Because like if you're, if you're on like the, you know, more further extremities of the right, you were used to being crowded out of institutions anyway.
So you just naturally developed a like certain degree of contrarianism.
Where now that Donald Trump is president, a lot of these people still have their pre-built contrarianism and they and they can't shake that.
They can't accept that they actually have sway over the U.S. government.
So they just react by spurging in every conceivable direction at all times.
Again, I'm not saying, like, again, I'm not saying what happened this week was like overblown.
Like it was a really rough week.
It was a really bad messaging.
It was very, some ways demoralizing.
Again, I'm not blackpilling.
I'm just saying it was kind of a gut punch to see.
But Vance came out yesterday, kind of mopped up the situation.
The clip was kind of a long clip, so I can just read his direct quote.
Vance, quote, a lot of young people are saying housing is too expensive.
Why is that?
It's because we flooded the country with 30 million illegal immigrants who are taking the houses that ought by right to go to American citizens.
So like Vance messaging, this is where I think goes back to what my initial point was with the boomers have a ceiling on baseness, is Vance being the first millennial, the first sort of generation that developed their political instincts online.
That's why his messaging is consistently so good because he's like, I think he's just like fluent and the zeitgeist.
He knows what the base is going to want to hear to like relax and calm down.
And yeah, I mean, there's a tweet here from John Doyle is providing some commentary on it.
I think it's the perfect take here.
It's so funny because Vance's messaging is literally always perfect.
Yet the most based accounts on here always cite him as the biggest villain who under no circumstances can be allowed to win in 28.
Really makes you wonder what their true motives are.
That's the thing.
I think it's the just natural contrarianism where they just panic.
They don't really know how to handle power.
They don't trust them.
So anytime any power is achieved, they're inherently skeptical.
They're like, something must be off because we're used to not being in power.
Not that I agree with it, because I agree with you in the, look, with the Trump administration, you've got the first net emigration administration in how many decades.
I'm not happy that Christy Noam is saying that she's, you know, robber stamping various citizenship grants at an accelerated rate, which means that you're stuck with this problem intergenerationally.
No, you should be denaturalizing and deporting instead of expediting green cards into permanent citizenships.
But if I may, the success of chimping is that you beat your chest and sound threatening more than you fling turds around.
Because if it's just turd flinging, then you're the only one that gets covered in poop.
Apt analogy for talking about H1B is this question.
There you go.
Tyler Olivera's ears are burning somewhere.
But what I think the guys that are critiquing Vance, saying that MAGA is over, posting the, you know, fooled again award, are trying to do is some of them are contrarian.
Some of them want to be vindicated more than they want to win.
Sure, fair enough.
But I think some of them, though, are playing a game where they're trying to enact political leverage via social disapproval.
Because, as we can see with Ron DeSantis, as we can see with Nikki Haley, as we can see with Nancy Mace, you know, myself and Will Chamberlain posting we should denaturalize and deport Il Hanoma.
And then, you know, she brings it forward.
Politicians want to be liked, and therefore there is the opportunity for containment breaches if they go off script and chase popularity.
And so what a lot of these guys are trying to do, you know, I've put the Groipers in this category.
They did the same thing when they went to Charlie Kirk's TPOSA event, queued up, and confronted him on camera about his contradictions with Rob Smith promoting gay sex, conservative, or not being bothered about legal migration as well as illegal migration.
What they're trying to do is hold the perception of public support, whether or not it has electoral payoff, hostage to say the Republican Party, if it doesn't concede to all our demands, whether it's on foreign policy, whether it's immigration policy with H-1Bs, the Republican Party deserves to be destroyed.
And so it would be easier to start from scratch rather than making marginal gains but ultimately taking setbacks.
Think, you know, Ronald Reagan winning the Cold War, but doing mass amnesty, doing no-fault divorce, putting limits on the Second Amendment.
So basically conceding to the Democrat narrative and putting the right on rails to drift leftward.
Or with Vance, and I think these are unwarranted concerns, given his rhetoric's always right.
He's always on message, both publicly and privately with those group chat leaks.
They are on the watch for containment.
And containment is persistent in the UK and the US.
I just did a stream on this about media and political containment in the UK.
It's a very long stream because there's a lot of it going on.
But they're worried that Vance, because he worked for Palantir before and they're suspicious about Peter Thiel, because, you know, any guy who talks about the Antichrist that much and then dodges the question when he's asked whether or not he is the Antichrist.
Fair enough, suspicions.
I've met Thiel.
He's an interesting chat, but you know, he might be a candidate.
The idea that he works like a giant surveillance corporation before, the idea that he's had assistance moving up his career and that his opinions on foreign policy have evolved over time.
His opinions on Trump himself have evolved over time.
People are being hyper-vigilant as to whether or not Vance is a Pied Piper candidate, as Hillary Flinton once said.
And so what I think they're trying to do is they're trying to get a better Republican Party, or at least a Republican Party, that is more amenable to their concerns about immigration and foreign policy.
We may disagree or agree with them on some or all of those points.
However, I do think that they are needlessly ostracizing themselves from the MAGA coalition when they go so far as to back, you know, Kanye or Kamala or Gavin Newsom, whereas they not just critique Vance's positions, not just critique Trump's positions, but say it's over and they insult Vance's family as well.
Because if one final thing, if I might, one of the main things that's turned people against H-1B visas is just the way Indians behave online.
Like, they are ethnocentric, they insult white people, they glorified the death of Charlie Kirk and that woman that got knocked out in Cincinnati by the black mob.
You know, they're very, they swarm, they are insulting.
And one of the major irritants was when that Indian woman came up at the TPUSA event, monopolized Vance's time, asked about 10 questions, interrupted him answering his own question, and made it personal by saying, you sold us illegal immigrants a dream.
How dare you rip it away from us?
And why you are raising your children and your wife's religious and racial identity.
And so when you do that, when you do make it personal for Vance's wife, you know, his kids, you will get the administration's ears turned away from you and you'll be considered an enemy faction.
And so you'll no longer be able to transfer your chimping into political leverage.
So if you are trying to play it smart, if you are trying to get Trump to walk away from supporting H-1Bs, which you should be very clear about that, you absolutely should.
Take it from me.
We get 250,000 Indians every year.
We've just had a river in Oxfordshire turned to the Ganges.
It bloody sucks.
Make sure that you aren't in your chimping throwing so many turds that you estrange the other side.
They just walk away because they don't want to get covered in your shit.
Well, it's kind of, it's the classic trope of like, there's the four quadrants of the political compass, and all four sides are saying, when society collapses, my ideology is going to rise from the ashes.
So it's kind of the same thing with, I think, the specific groups of people we're referring to, is they just assume that if there is a power vacuum in the GOP, if Trump gets out of the, you know, something, something happens, he's ousted, et cetera, et cetera, that their insurgent ideology is going to be the one that like takes control of the car.
Are you like, are you new around here?
If you think that's the case, like, do you know how absurd Trump was for Trump to have the opportunity to be the nominee in 2016?
Like, it was a very, very big deal.
But the thing is, he had, he won over a lot of like just normal Americans.
The thing with these ideologies that are being pushed now that are, again, people assume that if the GOP has a power vacuum, that their ideology will take place.
Most of these people that are making up Trump's base won't be as responsive to your very online ideas, even if a lot of those ideas I support.
It's not going to like, it's not going to play in Peoria as like as the as the phrasing is.
So it's like, it's a very online thing.
Yeah, I mean, with that, you made the point at the end.
The lady who felt like her immigrate, well, was it that she was invited?
She was invited to the country and was rug pulled, effectively, is what she was saying.
I have this tweet here.
This is from a immigration lawyer who has just been crashing out.
We've been crashing out because, look, this is the beautiful thing.
So, you know, Trump, obviously, horrible, horrible messaging this week is a very bad look.
But the administration is actually following up on the H-1B system, specifically on abuse quite extensively.
And my evidence for this isn't the government because, you know, a lot of people are starting to question where they're getting a lot of their data from.
It's either here, there, or there.
Just look at how the people that are on the other side are reacting.
So this was Anna Gorisich.
Gorisich, I think it's how you pronounce her last name.
She's an immigration lawyer, and she's been crashing out.
I've been loving looking at her Twitter because she's giving you good insight into what the environment right now is for immigration in the United States.
I'll just read her tweet here.
I cannot take this anymore.
Neither can my clients make it stop.
If you plan to end it, lay out your proposals and be kind enough to allow us to plan.
Let us sort out how many people get back and give the immigration attorneys you so desperately wish would lose everything and die to find a new career.
I'm a heritage American.
Does that matter at all?
And I never helped anyone break the law.
I helped them follow it.
In or out, legal or not, enough.
Pick one.
My career will die.
I will be homeless.
My rescue dog will have to go back to foster care and MAGA will throw a parade.
And if you go to her Twitter, it's still, she's just constantly just losing her mind because her entire, her entire career is, if it's immigration law.
I mean, if you know anything about immigration law, like it's just people trying to take advantage of the government and our systems.
And then these lawyers come in to sort of institutionalize that scamming and make it a thing.
She's just, she's completely melting down.
I'll put a few of her tweets up.
Because again, this is just, this is good insights.
This is good insights into the reality on the ground.
Because people, again, people are dooming so much on Twitter, online Twitter.
This is the reality on the ground is that, look, you know, we're at net negative migration, which would have been unfathomable to two or three years.
Even Trump won, like, that was not on the table.
Because people, for the longest time, I remember this vividly, is if you would go on any sort of like conservative podcast or show and say, I think our immigration policy should be net zero migration.
People would be like, what?
Like, what are you saying?
Like, what are you, like, Hitler?
Like, what's wrong with you?
And then now we're at net negative migration.
I mean, it's like totally, totally insane.
And people are still crossing their arms.
People still want more.
And this kind of goes back to the idea of like, look, for some reason, a lot of people are looking to throw a Hail Marys.
But the reality is we're going to have to move the ball up the field about three to five yards at a time.
It's going to be just short run plays.
You're consistently moving the ball down the field.
Rather than going for a Hail Mary, it's going to get picked off half the time.
And that seems to be the case.
You know, your Hail Mary would be running, you know, like a rapper for president.
And, you know, he says a few base things every once in a while.
So everyone's like, all right, fair enough.
And then he throws an interception.
Yeah.
Brings a chocolate milk glass and a net on a TV show.
And his wife's naked all the time.
That's neither here nor there.
I'm just saying you throw a lot of picks if you're, you know, you turn into Con Kaepernick.
You start throwing a lot of picks if you try to go for Hail Mary.
So I don't think it's the best idea to run a candidate for president whose attitude to foreign policy changes on whether or not he's watched 21 Jump Street that day.
It's probably not the most prudent pick.
As far as the Wail Mary Pass goes, I agree with moving the football down the field, but allow me to introduce a slightly more nerdy, less sportsmanly analogy into it.
It's all well and good making incremental gains towards getting a touchdown.
But if Bain comes on the pitch and blows it all up, you know, and that is something that the Republicans have to be wary of.
It's not just about the midterms.
It's if you guys lose the next time around, if J.D. Vaunce is not president for eight consecutive years, America's screwed.
Just is.
The Democrats have already realized if they just open the borders and import 10 million illegals over a four-year period, robustam citizenship, give mass amnesty to the ones that are already here and enfranchise all of them, then you can demographically gerrymander a bunch of states to be permanently blue no matter who.
And this is actually the thing I wanted to pick up on in Vance's clip that you quoted from earlier.
Yes, he's absolutely right.
Democrats let in 13 million illegals.
Republicans also allowed it to happen too, by the way.
But something both Democrats and Republicans have agreed on that has put downward pressure on housing, on jobs, is yet again, and this is part of the conversation about H-1Bs, legal migration.
Because I happen to notice that if the Democrats have been relying on American voters being replaced as there was a New York Times article, I think it was like by Stacey Abrams or something, like four years ago saying we can replace them.
If they've been relying on American voters to be replaced by a coalition of resentful outsiders and welfare-dependent immigrants, then the Republican Party has been the consent manufacturing plant for that to happen under the guise of cheap labor and being lobbied by corporations who employ Americans to then generate profits, the proceeds of which they use to lobby politicians to import their cheaper replacements.
And this conversation has been going on in the last week, of course, in relation to Van Shapiro's comments about housing, because conspicuously when he complained about Zoran Mandani being elected in New York, he didn't mention that it's a product of immigration.
He mentioned it was purely a product of like ideological leftism and anti-Semitism, partially of which is true, of course.
And then when he recommended policies that would stop young people from being so dispossessed of not owning property because housing is too expensive, he said to cut regulations and build more homes.
Now, that's fine.
I don't think New York needs more ugly high-rises, frankly, but the regulation is a very real point.
The Biden administration made it much harder to buy homes, actually.
Matt Walker did a really good video on this the other day.
But do you know who needs the homes?
People.
And do you know how you get more people in America, especially if the majority of Americans are not having enough kids to replace their own population?
Hundreds of thousands of Indians via H-1Bs in major cities that are not just sucking up job opportunities, but need somewhere to live.
And so pricing and pushing Americans out of the towns and cities that they grew up in.
And you know what's not going to win them over to the Republican side, especially come 2028, if there's this massive faction war going on in the Republican base?
It's advocating for more H-1B visas, which Ben Shapiro did minutes before defending his comments on trigonometry.
And then when people complain that they can't get a job, they can't own a home, and that their culture feels alien to them because it's been turned into Mumbai or Calcutta, just going, have you considered moving somewhere cheaper?
Like, why should you be chased across your own map, like it's a PvP server, and compete with the entire world in a labor pool and for homes and jobs in your own country?
Yeah, I mean, it's back to the analogy of moving the football down the field.
It's quite easy when it's just 11 on 11, but when they start introducing hundreds of thousands of Indians on the field, it gets a little bit more difficult.
Ben Shapiro comment was really because he actually used a similar line in the past.
I believe it was his conversation with Tucker Carlson like way back 2017.
And he was effectively saying with the economy, where he's saying, look, we can try and reindustrialize the Rust Belt, but the reality is these gigs probably aren't coming back.
And it would be best if people adapted.
They get a U-Haul, these sorts of things.
And that caused a lot of uproar because, you know, this was a peak populism at the time, like the Bannon kind of style populism.
I think it was at its fever pitch.
And yeah, I remember that line.
And so when I saw people freaking out about this new, I say freaking out, I mean, they were justifiably crashing out over this new Ben Shapiro quote.
I thought he was saying the same thing.
I was like, I thought we've already had this conversation.
Um globally, it's insulting if the Israelis, if the Jews, have a clam claim to indigeneity in Israel despite the 2000 year gap between the fall of the Second Temple and reoccupying the land in 1948.
If that holds true, then the same claim can be applied to heritage Americans whose ancestors you know stepped off the Mayflower or have been in various colonies cities, towns for hundreds of years and have voted against being replaced in those cities and towns and instead, from both Republicans and Democrats, received high levels of not just illegal but legal migration that has made it unaffordable to do so and just made their towns and cities unfamiliar.
As you said when they voted against it.
It's not their fault, it's the fault of the donor class, the corporations and the pundits that make excuses for it, who then ironically, are undermining the demographic and cultural givens upon which an economy rests.
I did a really long video on this on my own channel, reading from various authors like Eric Healthman and Christopher Lash, but it boils down to this, the economy comes from the word oikos, which means home, which means that the economy and prosperity rests on the families that make up a state, the culture that they pass down across generations and the high trust society, which is the enabling condition for free enterprise, free markets,
free exchange of goods with very little enforcement, cost or theft.
And so if you change out that population, if you change out their culture for expedient economic gains, you not just destroy the economy, but then you destroy the culture and the country in which the economy is thriving.
And, as you mentioned, it's not just that Ben knows about the claims of indigeneity in Israel, it's that I happen to notice that Israel isn't importing a hundred thousand Indians a year h-1b visas to fill their tech sector.
Instead they are Unironically, they're developing the space lasers thing.
Like, we were talking to a guy when we went to the Israel trip, and he was like, Oh, yeah, we're developing lasers to shoot down the missiles that are being shot over because, you know, the Iron Dome is really expensive.
But if you can, with AI and in a microsecond, focus lasers on the same point in the missile, you can blow it up.
Yeah, turns out they don't need the whole of Mumbai to develop that.
They're just doing it in like Tel Aviv or wherever else in Jerusalem.
So, weird that Ben would then advocate more H-1B visas in the US and not draw the connection to downward pressure placed on housing by importing hundreds of thousands of people, especially who have higher birth rates than the native population and need somewhere to live.
And this is the losing vision of the Republican Party, mind you.
I think this is why there's a battle for MAGA at the moment.
And Tucker Carlson and Nick Fuentes are like proxy figures.
They might have said some things that are insulting and odious, and etc.
But what it really is is a battle over whether or not J.D. Vons will be the successor to MAGA.
Because J.D. Vons' vision is completely different to this.
Because in his NATCON and then Republican Convention acceptance speech, they're basically the same speech.
He said, America is not an idea.
It is a nation, which means a people, which means there are an American people with roots and ancestry and a claim to the land.
They have been laid to rest in that Kentucky plot that he said that his wife will be laid to rest with him alongside his ancestors who fought in the Civil War and dug out the coal and worked in the factories.
And he wanted to return manufacturing, energy production, and well-paying jobs to give dignity to those people who built up that land and acted as its custodians for its culture from birth right through to death when their children lay them to rest in their ancestral cemeteries.
What a beautiful vision.
It's not just economically coherent.
It is a narrative that each American has a place in.
And their part in that narrative is irreplaceable.
It is a heroic story.
Whereas all Shapiro is offering is not a call to adventure.
It is not a reclaim of your birthright.
It is retreat.
And you know what?
Retreat is not a good sales pitch to young people for conservatives.
It's doubling down on deracination because that's like the biggest, that's the biggest thing I think plaguing young men specifically is complete lack of identity.
I mean, we have one more American story here to hit.
It kind of ties right in.
Actually, it ties in 100%.
It's Dinesh D'Souza.
I'll just read his tweet real quick.
We can put this away quite quickly before we get into our British segment.
How ironic it will be if a brown American like Zazai actually helps to fix education and raise the prospects of white kids while all the professional whiteys on X continue their idle boasting about how they too could get us to the moon, quote, just like some white dudes did in 1969.
This is like this is like next level resentment.
That's he was PO'd writing.
It's like he was mad.
I don't know.
I don't know what happened, but that was like a, this, that was a like insane mask off moment.
Dinesh replied to Tyler Olivera's post about him not wanting to put his documentary out about the poop throwing festival because he was getting doxxed and harassed and threatened by a bunch of Indians.
Like his phone number got released.
The Indian press was saying that his non-existent sister had an OnlyFans.
Like it was crazy.
Dinesh replied to Tyler's post saying he had been threatened and didn't want to put out the poop festival documentary by saying, look at this festival.
Future belongs to the poop throwers.
And having a graph of Asian Americans, not all of whom are Indians, by the way, there's Koreans and Japanese fit in there too, out-earning white Americans on average.
Now, number one, that is a problem in your own country.
If the heritage diaspora of your own country are being out-earned by model minorities, you should probably go, there might be a cultural problem in certain areas of white America.
Not in the same way that Vivek, you know, denigrates American culture and says you need to be Steve Urkel rather than the jock.
kissing the captain of the cheer team, which is basically the American dream.
See, Taylor Swift, you belong with me.
But you should probably address that rather than gloat about it.
And it's very telling that he thought took the side of random Indian villagers of literally eating cow excrement because they think it cures cancer over his supposed fellow American who is getting doxxed and harassed by said Indians that Dinesh doesn't know, who are Hindus when Dinesh is a Christian, and when Dinesh has made an entire career for decades preaching colorblind, liberal, individualistic meritocracy.
You know, I used to listen to Dinesh's Young America Foundation talks back in 2017, back when we were all at the, you know, the left of the real racist stage of the discourse, innocent times.
But now he has a total crash out, unprompted, in discourse that doesn't involve him, and then doubles down again using anti-white slurs to protect the fact that H-1B visas can continue bringing Indians into the United States.
And so despite him canceling guys like Sam Francis and the V-Dare crowd back in the 90s with the book The End of Racism, it turns out that they were right.
Everyone's a blood and soil nationalist for somewhere.
And for Dinesh, it's India rather than America, which is why, I don't know if you've seen this, but Vaughbon Books, the publishers of Camp of the Saints, the guy that did the retranslation, they put out a meme of Fred from Scooby-Doo lifting the mast on a ghost.
And the ghost costume is the end of racism.
And if you lift it up, it's just Camp of the Saints.
Yeah, I mean, look, all these classic characters of conservatism that we're all, you know, we know and love, we grew up with, this is going to keep happening as the what is an American question discussion advances further and further is we're going to be losing a lot of these guys because this isn't what they signed up for.
This isn't what they fostered.
They wanted a very kind of safe conservatism that really just functioned as opposition, where now guys like Vance, like you articulated earlier, who are putting together a vision of what America can and should be rather than just like what policies he's opposed to that the Democrats are proposing.
Part of that, you know, vision that he's developing is he's having to address the question, what is an American?
The reason that question has to be addressed is because if we really are expanding our deportation, our deportation programs, denaturalization is going to naturally have to come in into the conversation.
And then the question is, well, who do you denaturalize?
Because we've been told this entire time that as soon as someone gets off, you know, an airplane at JFK and they get their paperwork signed, they're just as American as someone that is a direct descendant of George Washington or something.
So again, as that conversation progresses, a lot of these guys are going to be kind of coming unglued a little bit.
So it's very sad to see.
We love Dinesh.
I mean, look, I like, I mean, I grew up obviously ingesting a lot of his work.
So, I mean, I'm not going to, I hate when people just start slamming these guys.
It's like, well, to a degree, you should credit them if they helped you along your sort of intellectual development as a young person.
But at the same time, it's like, this was completely out of line.
He calls whiteys.
Like, what are we doing here?
That's like an Indian version of a Kanye crash out is when an Indian just gets like pushed to the limit.
They just start calling people whiteies and like boasting at the poop throwing festival.
You know the meme of the ninja turtles being walked along as like baby turtles by Master Splinter and then they're all grown up and they're walking Master Splinter along.
That's us, but Dinesh towards a deportation flight.
And there was, so I didn't, I didn't watch the full thing, but I saw the clip of like one kind of obnoxious guy who I presume is a grieper phoning in and just saying he had a question for Dinesh and just started shouting, Do not redeem.
And Dinesh was laughing really hard.
He took it on the chin.
Like, this is the thing, right?
If Dinesh sees this, this is what we actually want.
We want to be able to joke about our differences.
We don't want constant foreign ethno-politics playing a part in our politics.
We don't want a double standard of everyone being allowed to play identity politics, but then Heritage Americans, white Brits, etc., aren't allowed to agitate for their own interests in their own country.
And just being frank, we just think poofering festivals are disgusting.
And so we shouldn't have our borders open to areas of the world that practice it.
Sorry.
And you should think that's gross as well, considering you're a Christian.
Yeah, I don't want to hear any talking any crap about him not eating with his hands if you're okay with the poop throwing this.
It's even worse.
Also, like, yeah, I think at the very least, I would just appreciate if guys with names like Dinesh and Vivek didn't operate with a huge chip on their shoulder.
Oh, I was going to say, speaking of denaturalization and deportation, the new story out of the UK this week is whether or not we're going to bring Shemaima Begum back.
This actually has implications for the US because the Trump administration is currently negotiating with the new Syrian president, the jihadist who's renamed himself Ahmad Al-Shara.
He called him a handsome young man and he joked how many waves he had because he said you can't tell from that part of the world.
I mean, like, Chad Moof probably shouldn't be, you know, I understand you need to play strongman politics, you need to court these kind of people, but he's not the best guy to pal around with.
However, what Trump's trying to do at the moment is negotiate with the Kurd to run parts of northern Syria because new president of Syria, jihadist in question, wants complete jurisdiction over it.
There's a lot of oil in the area, and of course, the Americans would quite like to lock the oil down and also keep the Russians out of getting it because that was one of the original reasons for the conflict in Syria.
Tim's talked about this a lot before.
It was building the Qatar Turkey pipeline through Syria in partnership with Russia.
Anyway, so what they want to do is they want to close down this massive, what they call a refugee camp, but it's literally like a jihadist training camp where all of the ex-ISIS detainees have just been milling about in the desert in Syria.
There's like 30,000 of them.
One of them is this girl called Shemaima Begum.
She was an ISIS bride who absconded from the UK with two other women who were born and raised in London.
And magically, the soil didn't work and she wasn't integrated.
She was born in Bethnal Green, which is that.
Do you remember we were talking before about the Muslim area that had the guys in Balaclavas walking through it?
It had the tube sign in Bengali.
Exactly there.
It's literally like a Bengali slum, right?
So she traveled to Syria to join ISIS in 2015.
She ended up marrying a Dutch Islamic convert called Yago Regic, had three kids, all of whom died because, you know, they're living in the middle of nowhere.
Hygiene isn't exactly a great thing when you're practicing the habits of seventh century Arabia.
And she was stripped, ironically, in a sort of subcontinental ethnic feud of her citizenship by the home secretary, who himself was a Pakistani Muslim, Sajid Javid.
We just have a revolving door of Pakistanis running the UK Home Office over here in 2019 because he claimed that giving her citizenship would not be conducive to the public good.
Now, the good thing about this story is actually it kept getting upheld.
her lawyers kept contesting that she had been groomed, she was actually the victim, she should be brought back and tried.
But because Bangladesh has a just sanguinist citizenship law, so it's by blood, it means that she would be hypothetically eligible for Bangladeshi citizenship.
So she would not be stateless if she was deprived of her British citizenship.
So the High Court upheld it.
The Supreme Court wouldn't hear it.
She's left to rot in the desert, and we now have a precedent for denaturalizing and deporting people if we can allocate them citizenship elsewhere.
The problem now is that because the Trump administration are trying to negotiate the close of this camp, there's a lot of pressure on the UK government, even on the likes of Reform UK, who are trying to make inroads with the Trump administration, because Nigel Farage suggested he would be up for this.
But there's been a lot of pressure placed to bring Shemaima Begum back rather than letting her rot in the desert because they want to close this camp.
And so there's this thing that's called like the Independent Commission on UK Counterterrorism.
It's one of these NGOs that tries to posit itself as an independent neutral body.
But the members of this include Dominic Greave, who was a former Conservative MP and Attorney General, massively anti-Brexit, got kicked out the Conservative Party by Boris Johnson in 2019 because he was too left-wing even for Boris Johnson, who was just chairing an Islamophobia definition board for the Home Office.
So trying to criminalize like criticism of Islam.
And Saida Vorsi, who was a baroness, independent, but used to be the chair of the Conservative Party, whose chief of staff ran a unit in the Home Office called Raikou.
So it was the Research Information Communications Unit.
And it's basically like the Department of Justice's Community Relations Service, where whenever a terror attack happens, they control the front covers of newspapers.
They bus imams out to the site of the terror attack for photo ops.
They feed the families of the victims lines to say on the media.
And they staged, for example, in the aftermath of the 27 Manchester Arena attack, the big concept of Ariana Grande that said, don't look back in anger.
Like that was century planned by the government to stop you from blaming Islam.
The worst example of this as well, 2014, there was an ISIS beheading of an aid worker called Anna Henning.
And the Sun newspaper ran a photo of a woman in a Union Jack hijab that had been prefabricated by a group called Breakthrough Media with the Home Office.
Raikou called it our product.
It had been made as part of a charity called Inspire with a woman called Sarah Khan, who went on to become the Home Office's independent extremism commissioner, you know, similar titles here.
Her sister was running Raikou at the time.
Raikou was ran by the chief of staff to Said Avorsi, and she's now part of this committee that's saying, oh, bring Shemaima Begum back.
It just so happens that you constantly run defense for actual jihadist attacks and terrorists.
And you say, don't you dare be Islamophobic and use state money to constantly gas like the population.
And they're saying that if she's left in the desert, this will basically be Britain's Guantanamo Bay, right?
It will be untenable according to international human rights law to have this jihadist rotting out there because she absconded from our country, betrayed it, and tried to join ISIS.
Bear in mind, she was part of the morality police, literally like watching as people getting their heads cut off.
She was apparently, according to witnesses, sewing suicide vests together, like absolutely reprehensible, evil person.
And now we've got the press, politicians, ex-politicians, independent bodies, lawyers, etc., all lobbying to bring this woman back to what?
Try her and have us house her at our expense until she inevitably gets released and like joins another jihadist group or something?
Yeah, well, this is like, this is, there's actually the UK, a rare instance where I think the UK might actually have a more based sort of standard on this sort of thing because the US repatriates these citizens from these camps.
It happened a lot.
And I think in the first Trump term versus the UK, as far as I know, zero repatriations.
So the guy who interviewed Shemaima Begum a couple of years ago for, I think it was ITV, has been doing the rounds and they've been asking him, well, do you think she should come back?
Because you know her personally, you still text her and that.
And he said, it's funny.
Apparently, one of the members of a terror group called the Terror Twins has already been brought back, but just nobody's been told.
So the government, much like when they were importing the Afghan interpreters that ended up being Taliban fighters and drug dealers and rapists, the government had been hiding it from the public again.
They've been hiding the fact they've been importing Palestinians over as well on chartered flights from Jordan, giving them full scholarships to UK universities.
I'm sure they're going to make good use of their engineering degree at our expense.
And they've just been doing it by the hundreds and just not telling us.
So I wouldn't be shocked if eventually she gets brought back and we just like find out about it later.
I mean, that would destroy a very base precedent, like you were saying earlier, is like that we are able to just strip citizenship because the United States just doesn't do that.
The United States, I think it's like 50, 60 plus US nationals that have been repatriated with ISIS links.
And the main argument is like we just legally wouldn't be able to strip them of citizenship, even though they were literally in ISIS by all accounts.
And then there's also this argument that's like, okay, well, if you leave them in that camp and whatever, then you run the risk of them becoming even like more radicalized, like, you know, enacting, putting together more terror plots, these sorts of things, versus repatriating them to the US, putting him in a court, putting him on trial, throwing him in jail, problem solved.
But the reason, again, the reason why the UK model is so important here is because it allows you to start having conversations about denaturalization.
And the UK is not the only country, I believe.
I believe, I think France and Germany have also stripped citizenships before.
I'll fact check that after.
But I know that they're very reluctant to accept repatriations of ISIS members.
Canada, Australia, like a handful between them.
It's really only the US that has this model where they repatriate citizens from these detention camps.
And then, yeah, they prosecute, obviously.
They prosecute these people.
But, oh my gosh, the thing about the thing that's so gay about the UK situation is they're not using the American sort of theory on why you should repatriate them, which is like, okay, to put him on, put them in trial.
They're just saying, no, she should come back because she could help make the country, she could help improve the country in some way.
She has so much to add.
This is such a human rights violation.
Like, why are we doing this?
I remember I was seeing tweets about like they were showing pictures of her and they're like, you can just see in her eyes, like, this isn't who she is.
She's so much better than this.
Like, you can just tell she wants to change.
And I was like, are we conducting our counterterrorism strategy off of like vibes now?
I describe him as Denethor because his advice for young men in Britain is leave while you still can.
But he has been advocating for bringing Shemaima Begum back because she hasn't been tried yet.
So basically, like one in terrorist, one out native British.
And so he's basically like saying, flee, abandon your post, men of Monastarith, let all be walked in.
So anyway, I was arguing with him because he wasn't even saying human rights.
He was saying it wasn't the Christian thing to do to allow her to rot in a desert after joining ISIS, you know?
And she, this famous interview, there's a hilarious clip of it that I'm sure people will be able to find where she says, well, I haven't done anything wrong other than join ISIS.
It's like, yeah, that's pretty significant.
And the fact that you've admitted to that means that's just a guilty verdict.
So I was saying to Peter Hitchens, the compromise we can reach is rather than, you know, have the thorny issue of her sitting in the terror camp for ages and, you know, possibly sponsoring other terrorists, or rather than bringing her back.
And he was really confused when I said that, you know, making the British taxpayer pay for a house.
And he was like, well, why would I didn't advocate such a thing?
Peter, if she was tried and then went to prison, we'd be paying for her.
Like, we'd be paying for her sell her food and her mosque.
So, yeah, we would.
Rather than doing both of those things, can we just turn her into a fine red mist in the middle of Syrian desert?
Like, I think that would be sensible.
Like, I know, I know people are a little bit touchy about that sort of thing in terms of the fact that foreign adventurism has been an unmitigated disaster throughout the last how many years.
But I think if we know where our own homegrown Islamic terrorists are, if we are enduring the threat of them being brought back and causing more problems, and bear in mind, there have been multiple attempted and successful female terrorists.
There was a woman who stabbed a labor MP in 2010.
There was a recent case where there was a woman who was just like the nickname of the mother of the Taliban or something.
And the police had to retake her mugshot because her lawyer claimed it was offensive, that she took it without a book or on.
So it's literally like there's a mugshot of her face and then a mugshot of her just with the eye slit.
So if we return to Shemima Begum, she could be a genuine threat.
Rather than just doing that, let's reach the compromise of just executing an enemy combatant where it's clean to do so.
And the idea that that's not the Christian thing to do, sorry.
But Christ multiple times in the Bible said and did, use force to correct immorality.
Not just turning the tables, not just the sell your cloak so you can possess a sword.
Not just the Gospel of Matthew verse that says you're better off tying yourself to a millstone than trying to enter the kingdom of heaven if you violated a child.
Like, look at Revelation, for example.
There are all of these instances where righteous violence is possible.
And I think that if you have tried to violently overthrow Christendom and rejected your civilization, just like you wouldn't get $200 if you keep passing Go but stealing from the bank, you shouldn't be afforded the grace of its laws.
And so you should probably meet the sharp end of a drone strike.
I think potentially Andrew Mountain Batten Windsor with his new name, I think if he wants his titles back, he should get back on his Falkland Islands era warship and just start shelling the crap out of like, you know, Syria and Yemen and stuff.
And then like, you know, eventually if he's knocked out enough of these, you know, these Shemaima types, then maybe you could get, maybe not Prince, but from a cool name, like, you know, you know, doctor or something.
I think given the dark cloud of allegations hanging over him, we can exile into Epstein Island.
But when Harry is eventually dumped by Megan and sort of crawling embarrassingly back to sleep on his brother's sofa, maybe he can get in an Apache and do it instead.
Like he might be next in line for Royal Redemption.
Him and Trudeau could run duos in Syria like Fortnite.
That'd be beautiful.
have you a beautiful thing i'm also seeing this is maybe you can outline this little bit because this story this this was not on my radar at all uh Later leadership crisis.
I've heard about the, you know, labor.
There's been some, there's been a little knife fight, so to speak.
I think it's still rumbling along because you're getting leaks from Downing Street now at this point.
And when that tends to happen, it's because they've lost all narrative control.
So Stormer's an advisor who positions himself as a sort of left-wing populist, you know, left-wing on economics, but can outflank reform rhetorically on migration, despite Labor now slumping to fourth in the polls overall.
They're behind the Green Party, and the Green Party are literally just the gay race communist party.
Like they're led by a guy who changed his name to be more Jewish and a deputy leader whose name is Moffin Ali, who when he was elected as a councillor in 2024 shouted, Allahu Akbar, this is for Gaza.
What this has to do with growing vegetables, I got a brand idea.
There you go.
So now, because of Stalma's record on popularity, he's literally the most unpopular prime minister since records began, because he has been incapable of handling the civil service, because he hasn't brought migration down, because the economy is spiraling out of control under him, and Rachel Reeves, who has been nicknamed Rachel Thieves, because she has put an income tax on farmland.
So obviously, you're not going to be able to pay it unless you sell off the farmland to like some mega corps so they can build a migrant battery farm on it.
And she's set to probably break a manifesto pledge in the next budget on the 26th of November by raising income tax.
Bear in mind, we've already got the highest level of tax since 1948.
We had that under the Conservatives, and it just keeps going up.
And the economy is in total free fall.
You know, GDP is 100% of debt is 100% GDP.
There's marginal growth.
It's shrunk each quarter.
So when that budget goes through and it's record unpopular, people think not only is she going to be scapegoated, but in a rarity for the Labour Party, they might vote against Kiss Starmer with a vote of no confidence.
His deputy, Angela Rainer, just got ousted as well because of a dispute about not paying tax on one of her homes that she bought.
It was like her second house.
She didn't pay the stamp duty, even though she advocated for increasing stamp duty as a tax to take more taxes from homebuyers.
She's very popular in the party because she's northern, a woman, very foul-mouthed, and incredibly far-left.
And so the rabid base of the party who thinks Stalma is capitulating to the right, even though Stalmer keeps calling him one far right, hate him.
They really like her and they're infuriated that he got rid of her because she was a hypocrite and the media had to make wind of it.
So now that Stalmer is alone on an island of strangers, so to speak, the blades are starting to be sharpened.
So Wes Streeting, who I've often called Brutus in waiting, he's the health secretary, and he has been biding his time going for leadership.
Wes Streeting would be an unmitigated disaster because even though he tries to position himself as a moderate one, he's got the least trustworthy physiognomy known to man.
And, you know, God rest him.
You know, when they used to make those memes of Charlie Kirk with like his face shrunk on a really deep head, that's just Wes Streeting's face.
It's horrifying.
So Wes's career is interesting.
He co-wrote the Islamophobia definition on behalf of the all-party parliamentary group on British Muslims in like 2018 to 2019.
He's a gay man, by the way, not a Muslim.
And this particular definition said that conversations about the grooming gangs are rooted in anti-Muslim racism.
The definition, by the way, you'll love this.
It's very similar to the what is a woman definition.
It is, Islamophobia is a kind of racism rooted in racism that targets Muslimness or perceived Muslimness.
Our brightest mind, ladies and gentlemen, he was also a member of Stonewall, you know, the LGBT charity.
All the guys in Natalie Winter's DMs are like fully paid our members, I'm sure.
Um, so he was running their campaigns, and as health secretary, he has upheld a high court ban on giving puberty blockers to young people.
So, people were like, Oh, maybe he's moderating on the issue.
But what he's done is open an uncapped trial with 10 million pounds in funding with the NHS to give children puberty blockers, despite the caste review, despite all the horror stories coming out, despite the fact that the trans issue has been basically settled, including by the Supreme Court that's now ruled on the what is a woman question and said it's a matter of biological sex.
His health department is still drugging children and castrating them en masse.
We don't even know how many children, so he would be an absolute disaster.
The alternative is Shabona Mahmoud, good British name, very British.
Yeah, yeah, Pakistani Muslim home secretary who says that you can't say that she's not English because that's racist, even though she's born to two Pakistani parents and was raised in Saudi Arabia.
And she says that her Sunni Muslim faith is the most important thing in her life and informs everything she does in politics.
I believe her.
She also endorses Islamophobia definition.
But in recent weeks, including today, after this report has come out about Stalma being under threat, she is trying to position herself as an immigration hardliner.
So she is saying that the Boris wave, the millions of immigrants granted indefinite leave to remain since Boris Johnson brought them in after Brexit.
And indefinitely to remain means, and you're not going to believe this, if you're in the UK for five years, you're just here, right?
No matter on what visa, no matter what you've overstayed, no matter what job you're doing, what you're earning, what crimes you committed, you get the right to remain in Britain forever.
You get the access to claim all benefits.
You get access to socially subsidized housing.
You get the NHS, so socialized healthcare, and you get an expedited route to citizenship for you and your children.
So the Boris Wave is going to get that.
And the bill for that, just like two years of the Boris Wave, is going to be 234 billion minimum.
So she said, don't worry, the hundreds of thousands of people that are eligible for this, you know, 95% of whom are never going to be net taxpayers, all of whom weren't invited here because the public voted against immigration in Brexit and with electing Boris, those people will have to wait 10 years to claim benefits.
Wow, we're just going to kick it straight into the long grass.
Don't worry, the bill won't come due for a little while, guys.
It's a bit like the mortgages that Trump's putting up.
And she's also done these like slick videos on Twitter saying the home office is deporting 50,000 immigrants.
Most of those are paid voluntary returns, by the way.
Like the Ethiopian sex offender, they paid £500 to get out of the country.
And then she's tried to make these charities, this is something you flag to me, induct migrants on this like forced volunteering scheme.
So the problem she's got is because she's a demented open borders leftist and Islamic activist and always has been, the charities she's tried to conscript have all signed a letter saying no.
So 320 organizations, including the National Council for Voluntary Organizations, the Charity Retail Association, and Age UK and Citizens Advice, have said they can't accept the unworkable proposal because it would be inhumane to force illegal immigrants that are staying in five-star hotels at my expense, getting pocket money, DJ lessons, PlayStations, and phones.
I'm not exaggerating.
And have a mini bus to take them on day trips to the seaside.
It would be unfeasible for them to spend an hour a week picking up litter or working in soup kitchens.
The only saving grace by the fact that they've been denied this proposal is that they won't be working any children's charities anytime soon.
I like we should be making them do um to test them.
They should be like working.
Like I'm thinking stateside.
We should make them work at like a waffle house just for like two or three weeks.
You know, maybe make them work in a senior home, be like the diaper changers.
They kind of already work those gigs anyway.
I'm just trying to think of like frontline, like truly the American gigs that you're like getting the brunt of the American underclass and like in all of its in all of its glory.
And I'm thinking, like, yeah, work in the desk at like a La Quinta, you know, people are coming in to like just you know, cheat on their wives and do drugs and stuff.
And you're just interacting with that.
And then you can, it's, it almost helps the refugee more because then they're like, I don't know if I want to stay here.
If this is like really, you know, America and it's all of its, you know, brevity.
I don't know if I'm ready.
And I think that could be the solution.
So I think, you know, the charities don't worry about that.
In the UK, maybe you make them work at like a Gregg's.
