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| But when it comes to what why they're fighting so hard against Trump, that's that's definitely more this kind of almost quasi-religious feeling that they're part, you know, this is a meaningful life project for them at the end of their life that see Trump is ri I think uh representing uh the antagonism towards their basic values and antagonism towards the basic way they've understood the world since Woodstock. | ||
| Yeah, you know, and that's you know, Trump, if anything, is a traitor to the boomer class, is a way to think about it. | ||
| First, I want to show what Medi Hassan had to say, the great Medi Hassan. | ||
| He was speaking at the No King's uh protest in DC, and uh here's what he had to say. | ||
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And you know, they say we don't reach out to the other side, we don't reach out to conservatives or republicans, but we're in an echo chamber. | |
| Well, let me say to every Republican and conservative watching. | ||
| Aren't you the ones who said no more big government? | ||
| No tyranny in America. | ||
| Ooh. | ||
| So if you believe that, what are you doing? | ||
| Defending masked federal agents in unmarked cars, bundling people off of the streets, including American citizens, and disappearing them. | ||
| Oh, oh wow. | ||
| We're enforcing immigration law, and this is totally in the face of our founding principles, according to uh Indian journalist Medi Hassan, which is true, he's Indian. | ||
| They tried to community note this. | ||
| Um, or they they've they're they're proposing a community note. | ||
| Um Medi Hassan is Indian. | ||
| Uh he says it himself. | ||
| Um that's neither here nor there. | ||
| So uh yeah, they this has bent them out of shape. | ||
| I want to bring Will Chamberlain in, so we're gonna get that set up here. | ||
| He has some strong uh feelings on Medi Hassan and his comments regarding um ICE. | ||
| Look, people here are probably quite familiar, you've obviously friend of the show, but maybe for the people that don't know, could you give a quick introduction to who you are, what you do? | ||
| Uh I'm senior counsel at the internet accountability project, which I do legal and political advocacy. | ||
| We get j we try and fight to get judges confirmed, get key bills passed that touch on the courts, and then I'm also uh vice president of external affairs at the Edmund Burke Foundation, where I help organize and put together the national conservatism conferences. | ||
| Sweet, good stuff. | ||
| Well, so earlier in the show, we were, and you've probably seen this clip, we were discussing um this clip of this lady. | ||
| I'll say she's kind of gravity challenged, I think would be a gratuitous explanation for her situation. | ||
| And she was gesturing to her neck, obviously mocking the death of Charlie Kirk. | ||
| Um, and we saw this. | ||
| We saw, you know, a lot of rhetoric surrounding Kirk and this No Kings protests over the weekend. | ||
| And then I just played a clip from Medi Hassan, who basically did nothing to lower the temperature. | ||
| He was saying that Republicans were, I think he said, like, you know, blackbagging uh immigrants off the street, and like, you know, he was calling Republicans hypocrites, saying, Oh, you guys are supposed to be against big uh big government, but you're enforcing immigration law. | ||
| It's so evil. | ||
| What is your take on this no-king? | ||
| What is going on? | ||
| Why can these people not get out of their own way and why are they so incessant on cranking up the temperature? | ||
| Well, though no kings is kind of this weird phenomenon. | ||
| It's uh in a sense the the last gasp of boomer liberalism, the Woodstock generation, the people who've, you know, built their lives and don't have a lot of meaning outside of these protests. | ||
| Uh and so that's why when you go to these protests, they're they're a very distinct audience from the and very different from the Antifa types or the pro-palestine protest types. | ||
| It but that's a much younger audience. | ||
| This is the older liberals. | ||
| Um and you know, you can start with that said there's obviously other people on the left in there who are crazy, like this woman who decided it was wise to start mocking Charlie Kirk's assassination. | ||
| I really don't have much time for people who do that. | ||
| I I've I'm very aggressive about the idea that there should be absolutely no tolerance for assassination celebration in this country, and I've talked about this with Tim before on on one of these shows, because you just game it out. | ||
| If you normalize assassinations, you end up with the Spanish Civil War, something equivalent to that in the United States. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So I have no time for that. | ||
| Um the the endless hyperbole from people like Nadi Hassan about the actions of ICE. | ||
| And and you know, there's this this straw man, like the idea that the modern Republican Party is necessarily a small government party. | ||
| That's not Donald Trump isn't that. | ||
| He's never been that. | ||
| He's always promised robust government action to deal with the problems he identified. | ||
| One of them is immigration, and it's the most basic function of a country to enforce its laws and to ensure that people coming in are productive and helpful. | ||
| That's what he's doing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, Medi Hassan specifically is so egregious because he himself is an immigrant, so he's obviously gonna be quite biased. | ||
| One thing I pointed out, it was Tim Kess News. | ||
| We captured this clip and we identified him as Indian journalist Mehdi Hassan, because that's how he identified. | ||
| We we pulled up uh it was like a Facebook post where he was saying, like, I, you know, I'm a son of India or whatever. | ||
| And then it got community noted, and they were like, he's British. | ||
| Again, that's neither here nor there. | ||
| Why is someone like Medi Hazan not denaturalized and deported at this point? | ||
| Because he's cranking up the temperature to such a degree. | ||
| I'm like, why is this guy even still here? | ||
| I mean, I know it's kind of a side note, but I wanted to ask you. | ||
| Yeah, well, it's I I think I think Medi should self-deport back to Britain. | ||
| I think he'd be much happier in a country that aligns with his Islamist values. | ||
| That's the United Kingdom. | ||
| Uh and I think that's where he should be. | ||
| There's there's nothing American about Mehdi Hassan beyond his paperwork. | ||
| That's the thing to understand about him. | ||
| He's he's so his politics are deeply alien to this country. | ||
| They're familiar in Britain, which does have this Islamist, so both in Islamist tradition and a socialist tradition, which is how we might describe himself, a Muslim socialist. | ||
| But it's it's totally alien to our country. | ||
| And so the way he talks about America and the critiques he levels are just so, you know, they're jarring and they're they're and it's just strange that a person who believes these things would be you could take seriously that they meant it when they were taking the oath of naturalization, which regards you know, withdrawing all these allegiances. | ||
| So, you know, I I obviously target with Netty with denaturalize and deport pretty often. | ||
| The logistics of that are fairly complicated and probably wouldn't be able to work. | ||
| Uh, but I think it's still it's useful rhetoric in the same way that sees the endowments was useful rhetoric. | ||
| We're trying to express that this person is not one of us. | ||
| He's not, he's not part of the American experiment. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Um, and and he's not, and what his views don't reflect anything that Americans should take seriously. | ||
| Hey, and it's worth the shot. | ||
| Look, if Ice wants to deputize me, I'll I'll try, you know, I'll see what I can do. | ||
| But uh it's just the phenomenon these of recently naturalized immigrants suddenly running for office and telling everybody what how the country should work. | ||
| It's it's Mamdani is another example of that. | ||
| He finally brought bothered to grab American citizenship five years ago, and now he's gonna run the city of New York, really. | ||
| I mean, there's there's an underlying arrogance to that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Uh that's remarkable. | ||
| The you know, you just got here. | ||
| Maybe don't think you should be running the place. | ||
| Yeah, totally. | ||
| Well, and this is what I want to drill down on. | ||
| Um, we had a prominent Twitter poster, uh, the Captive Dreamer. | ||
| He was on the show, I think would have been two weeks ago now, or a week and a half ago. | ||
| And we kind of drilled down on this, and I noticed this when I was I was on the ground at the No Kings protest in DC. | ||
| It was mostly a fact-finding mission. | ||
| I loved the otherly, so I was actually this was like community service, court ordered, um, unfortunately. | ||
| But um, anyway, I digress. | ||
| The the the most the the issue that charged them the most was ice and the deportations and the mass deportations. | ||
| What specifically is it about ice that animates the left to like above everything, it seems even more than like abortion, like ice specifically seems to really grind their gears. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I uh maybe you maybe you can drill down on this. | ||
| There's there's not much left animating the original boomer liberal in terms of a political project or a policy idea that they're trying to put forward. | ||
| Remember, they got Obamacare, right? | ||
| Um, and they're not for universal health care, generally speaking. | ||
| Some of them are, but they're not they're not for full socialism. | ||
| So the boomer liberal wants kind of like you know, government assistance, something along the lines of Obamacare, but Obamacare is not working. | ||
| The Iran deal is a failure. | ||
| You know, the entire Obama presidency, when you look back, it looks really, really bad. | ||
| Yeah, it looks just no every signature bill or signature uh initiative of his either is irrelevant now because it got overtaken by events or failed miserably. | ||
| So that leaves the boomer liberal kind of like afloat, adrift, not really knowing what to be advocating for. | ||
| And then it becomes a movement that just becomes obsessed with its own power. | ||
| And ICE is a tar is targeted at the path the democratic power of the liberals because it's supporting their voters. | ||
| And I think that's as simple as that. | ||
| I think it's a recognition from uh older progressives that their project is going to come to an end unless they can replace and and replenish their voter base with immigrants. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think these old heads should just hang out with their grandkids. | ||
| I think that's what they should be doing instead of like many of them don't have any, and they don't, they don't have very good relationships with them. | ||
| That's that's very true. | ||
| Well, and this kind of tracks, you know, the boomers, I think are oftentimes boogeyman a little bit in the in the political zeitgeist, but I do think the reality that they weren't really conscious, or if they were, they were malicious about the future impacts of the policies they advocated for, and it's really screwed over a lot of younger people. | ||
| I I think there is some truth there. | ||
| And the mass migration kind of seems to be the epitome Of that is like it it benefited them for like five years because they got cheap labor out of it. | ||
| And then if they were a Democrat, obviously it bolstered their voting numbers. | ||
| But they don't really seem to be concerned about the impact of mass migration on young people, which has been detrimental. | ||
| I mean, they're crowded out of universities, you know, finding a job's impossible. | ||
| Everything. | ||
| Everything just like sucks now. | ||
| And a lot of that is attributable to this mass migration project. | ||
| So that's what's so strange to see that that's not strange. | ||
| It's just it's what's interesting to see this slavish devotion to this mass migration project by the boomers because it's just screwing over the next generation so blatantly. | ||
| It's indefensible. | ||
| Sure, but it's, I mean, if you're a retired homeowner, there's if you're just looking out for your own interests, it's hard to see what the downside is of mass migration. | ||
| You're hanging out of your home. | ||
| You need a lot of help in terms of services, uh, human services, right? | ||
| You're getting to the point where, you know, you may maybe you're maybe you're an assisted living or something like that. | ||
| You know, so the lower wage, you know, the the less the cheaper it is to get into assisted living because of lower wage labor available. | ||
| That's good. | ||
| Um increased competition for housing means that the value of your home continues to go up and up and up and up. | ||
| Yeah, right. | ||
| So there's a lot and and more. | ||
| That's also another reason. | ||
| This is something I'm not sure who pointed out. | ||
| So maybe Peter Teal pointed this out. | ||
| That even crime actually ends up helping the boomer liberal. | ||
| The fewer places that are livable in your city, the higher the housing values are in the places that are livable. | ||
| It's true. | ||
| So all of these dynamics that President Trump is fighting for that are really that hurt the quality of life of younger people trying to start families, younger people trying to raise young children. | ||
| Uh and so they're weight, so it's about wages and safety and quality of life and reduce competition for you know, and you know, the downsides of the immigration. | ||
| It's younger people who feel those pains most acutely, but elderly boomers might just be thinking, well, you know, well, who's who's gonna mow my lawn? | ||
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| And how how much more am I gonna have to pay for that? | ||
| Who's who's gonna take care of me at the nursing home? | ||
| Because like obviously my grandkids won't. | ||
| So it's you know, you have a interesting generational war, and and we have to remember the boomers are the largest generation. | ||
| They've been they've had political power for such a long time. | ||
| You look at it, people of that age, outside of Obama, it's been boomer presidents since since Bill Clinton, basically. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Uh, you know, it I think an interesting thing that may people may have not realize is I think Clinton, uh, George W. Bush and Donald Trump were all born in the exact same year. | ||
| And that's 24 years of presidency by people born in 1946. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The first baby boom year. | ||
| Like there's there's that's not a coincidence. | ||
| Oh my gosh. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, that's a good point. | ||
| I didn't even think about that with the the crowding out like crime, basically clearing out parts of the city. | ||
| Because like I'm from Memphis, there's like five blocks left that you can live on. | ||
| Like it's a total war zone. | ||
| And those and where you can live in Memphis, I'm sure ain't the cheapest, even though and it's especially not cheap relative to the sort of salaries that normal middle class to upper middle class people are going to be able to get in Memphis. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Um Kevlar's expensive. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, I'm sure it is. | ||
| That's true everywhere where there's there's a city where there's major crime issues, is that the cost of you almost see you see a consistent theme where it's there are both major crime issues in the inner city, and then the cost of living outside the city and in reasonably well located suburbs is just enormous. | ||
| So this may be kind of more like an esoteric question, but uh maybe it's useful to the audience. | ||
| What would what do you think is driving? | ||
| Because obviously the Snow Kings protest was quite old. | ||
| I I estimated the most gratuitous sort of estimation I could give was what I saw in DC. | ||
| I would say about 66% were of retirement age. | ||
| How much of that animosity towards the Trump administration is driven by sort of this anxiety uh surrounding maybe you know, protecting their own interests and also that boomers are kind of on the way out, versus how many of them are genuinely convinced that Trump is like a fascist dictator and they feel like that they're part of this, you know, great standoff. | ||
| I think it's more I think it's more the latter. | ||
| I don't think it's this self-cut, you know. | ||
| Uh you know, we talk a lot about the boomer interests, and obviously I think that the boomer interests explains why they don't see the downsides of mass migration, for example. | ||
| They don't feel them at all, right? | ||
| If anything, it's just positives for them. | ||
| So that from their perspective, they're like ICE is doing is ICE is taking away my employees, but like people I like. | ||
| So that's their view. | ||
| Um, but when it comes to what why they're fighting so hard against Trump, that's that's definitely more this kind of almost quasi-religious feeling that they're part, you know, this is a meaningful life project for them at any end of their life. | ||
| They see Trump is I think uh representing uh the antagonism towards their basic values and antagonism Towards the basic way they've understood the world since Woodstock. | ||
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| You know, and that's you know, Trump, if anything, is a traitor to the boomer class is a way to think about it. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, we got to think they've invested 60 years at, you know, beyond six years, but at least of their lifetime, 60 years towards this political project that's now being unraveled in let's just say second term Trump really just being unraveled in nine months. | ||
| I mean, that would make me infuriated if I were like a you know Lib Tard boomer. | ||
| I mean, I would be absolutely furious watching this happen, and I would feel that sort of anxiety of like, oh wait, the history books, uh, what about the history books? | ||
| Oh no, what about my you know curriculum, my college curriculum? | ||
| You can just not do that. | ||
| You can govern in a different way. | ||
| You can you can actually look out for you know the American people. | ||
| That would that would bring me a tremendous amount of anxiety if I were you know of that affliction, I would say. | ||
| Yeah, and you notice that it's the insults have have steered completely in the direction of fascist and authoritarian. | ||
| Like if you go back four or five years, and first Trump won, it was racist, it was sexist, it was you know, traitor, Russia, you know, all that that random stuff. | ||
| And it's like all that stuff that has failed, all that stuff's out the window. | ||
| You know, I think modern broader society has moved past this the Black Lives Matter era, most of us, especially in the since the admin of body cams. | ||
| I think most people realize that was the fundamental thesis that was built on was just wrong. | ||
| You know, yeah, cops are good people, they're dealing with they're dealing with criminals. | ||
| Every body cam video has the victim looking incredibly unreal the victim, quote unquote, looking incredibly unreasonable. | ||
| Um so now you're just fascist and authoritarian and tyranny, blah, blah, blah. | ||
| Like no kings itself is just so silly. | ||
| Like, you know, we're in the middle of a government shutdown. | ||
| The Trump isn't randomly stealing money or ordering the treasury to print more to fund the government operations. | ||
| He's not ordering, you know, he's obeying every court order and then going to the Supreme Court and winning. | ||
| Right. | ||
| This is not a guy who's disrespecting the basic you know limits on his article two power. | ||
| He's just it asserting the prerogatives that have been there the whole time. | ||
| Yeah, that's what's so strange is like if Trump were behaving like a king, you would wouldn't be allowed to do it, you wouldn't be allowed to break. | ||
| We would have just banned the protests and arrested everybody. | ||
| Why not? | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| It's like, yeah, hear me out. | ||
| Maybe we should have no kings, but you know, that's actually now they think about it, now that percolates a little bit, you know, maybe a Caesar. | ||
| What is the story of why did why did the Constitution replace the Articles of Confederation? | ||
| Why did the founders create a strong executive branch? | ||
| It's because the articles of confederation were a mess. | ||
| The central government was so weak it couldn't do anything, it couldn't collect taxes, it couldn't put down ro riots, it couldn't do anything. | ||
| You know, Hamilton is the deep thinker behind the the presidency and why it was created. | ||
| You're it actually is created to be a fairly strong office. | ||
| It doesn't get the rights right law, but it has every shred of executive power belongs to the president of the United States. | ||
| And one and it's just a single one because that person is supposed to act with energy and dispatch. | ||
| You know, the in a way, I think the boomers often oh, here's another point. | ||
| I just thought of this. | ||
| The boomers political self-development matched Nixon and matched the 70s, which post-Nixon was the nadir of executive power in this country. | ||
| You think of all the different bills that were passed to correct deal with as correctives to the Nixon era, things like FOIA, um, you know, all these restrictions on the executive branch. | ||
| So they grew up with the idea that it's important to have a weak executive to you know, to protect liberty, but that's not always true. | ||
| And certainly it's not all not true in a world where you have this massive congressional sclerosis and you need the one guy who's elected by the entire country to use the executive power to help move things forward. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, and that kind of gets at another point is I I showed some pictures earlier, but I mean, people see for themselves, they've kind of changed their optical strategy around a little bit. | ||
| And they're using a lot of appeals to our what they perceive as our founding principles, right? | ||
| They would say, like, oh, no kings for 250 years. | ||
| What's with this 180? | ||
| Because a week ago they were like dragging Columbus and calling him like a genocidal maniac, and then a week later they're like appealing to Thomas Jefferson and stuff like that. | ||
| What is going on at this LARP? | ||
| Like this, this this optical, you know, you know, run around that they're they're trying to pull on us. | ||
| I think it's the it's that subtle tension between sort of more the boomer liberals and the younger liberals who don't really care that much about this democracy stuff and don't really care to do too much about historical traditions as far as the younger generation of lefties thinks it's that's all that's all scaffolding for oppression. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So they don't really care. | ||
| But there's there's plenty of people in the Democrat Party who realize that they're not going to win the middle of the country if they're not seen as at least appealing to basic patriotic principles. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So you have this tension between them where you have and then at the patriotic protest, you have the woman mocking the assassination of Charlie Kirk. | ||
| It's just this this internal tension of the left that contains these people who want to say that Trump is a tyrant. | ||
| We need to restore American ideals versus the people who are like actually a communist revolution would be great. | ||
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| Well, and beyond that, the lady that was that was mocking the Kirk assassination, she was holding a Mexican flag. | ||
| It's almost like you can't you can't even make this up. | ||
| Like Chat GPT wouldn't let you generate that. | ||
| Like it's yeah, it's so crazy. | ||
| But yeah, go ahead. | ||
| No, no, no, you go first. | ||
| Yeah, well, I was just saying, like, and then you compare that back to the LA riots earlier this year, where it was clearly just a Mexican nationalist, like I would say almost borderline insurgency. | ||
| That's what it certainly felt like. | ||
| I wasn't on the ground, but that's that's how I perceive it when you're shutting it on highways and attacking federal buildings. | ||
| Um it's it's this weird this retconning where it's like the older boomers in the Democrat Party, really just the older establishment. | ||
| I mean, this could include the upper end of Gen X as well, grew up in a vastly different America than it exists now. | ||
| And so they're they're like kind of like, guys, what wait, you're no, you're supposed to wave the American flag and and LARP. | ||
| Like, what are you guys doing? | ||
| And like you're you're hitting on there's this massive divide, and I don't know how much longer you know we're gonna see this Democrat Party that at least tries to make these, you know, appeals. | ||
| I think we're just going to see a third worldist party in the not too distant future. | ||
| I think that's right. | ||
| I think it's gonna be a third worldist party. | ||
| I don't think that the the sort of patriotic old sk old school boomer liberals, and I mean they just have they have a particular kind of patriotism, but it at least is like an attempt to be patriotic. | ||
| Yeah, you know, whereas you compare, you know, the woman with the current the Kirk assassination where holding a Mexican flame as a flag is making no effort to be a patriotic American, right? | ||
| Uh but the older generation is gonna pass on. | ||
| It's gonna be the you know, us and you know, the younger Republicans dealing with the younger Democrats, and I think the younger Democrats are indeed going to be a third worldist party, a party driven by you know the resentments and animosities of the countries where they came from or the countries of their allies, so you know, Mexican flags and Palestinian flags, and you name it, that's gonna be what drives the Democratic Party, and so the Republican Party is gonna be the pro-American party. | ||
| Yeah, well, I mean, Zoron's like a great example of the future of the party. | ||
| Like, there's this whole attempt to try and clear the field for Cuomo, so then he can take on Zoran 101. | ||
| And it's like, I get it, right? | ||
| But you're just kicking the can for like four years down the road because the next if it's not Zoran, it's gonna be another person pretty much exactly like him. | ||
| Like, that actually is the future of the Democrat. | ||
| It's it's a feature, not a bug of the new Democrat Party. | ||
| And um, yeah, and you're seeing it with no kings, obviously, people are not afraid to mock Charlie Kirk. | ||
| It's like we're gonna be dealing with a party that resembles like the EFF in South Africa, the kill the booer party. | ||
| Yes, and yes, people are not waking up to that. | ||
| And and this no kings, I guess, is buying them a little more time rhetorically, but like you're gonna get more and more Zorons, and it's the Republicans are gonna have to use, you know, get a little meaner, I think, to try to do that. | ||
| Well, it's just a realization that you know, as long as we keep if we keep winning the presidency and we keep winning the bulk of the state houses because so many states are Republican, it's just about of taking responsibility for being sovereign, right? | ||
| Like, and I think Tennessee is starting to do that. | ||
| You know, Tennessee said, guess what? | ||
| We're gonna make Memphis safe now, even if Memphis has a local blue mayor, we don't care. | ||
| It's Tennessee's a red state, we're gonna call in National Guard, we're gonna restore order to Memphis order to Memphis. | ||
| Similarly, Trump is talking about how he wants to bring order to San Francisco, bring order to other blue cities. | ||
| He should. | ||
| We we we we the Republican Party should be the party, and we're not the small government party, we're the party of proper governance, we're the pro party of law and order, of you know, legal migration of prosperity and flourishing for the people who have a legal right to be here. | ||
| Yeah, totally. | ||
| There was kind of one more sort of factor at play with the no kings, is what we saw with the political violence, the ramping up of political violence. | ||
| To me, that's actually an indication that the Republicans are winning overwhelmingly, where the Democrats feel like maybe not Democrats, but the sort of leftist elements of the Democrat Party feel like they're backed into a corner, feel like they're completely shut out from political power, and so they lash out with political violence because that's all they know how to do. | ||
| The no kings protest, like obviously it was, you know, there was a fairly large turnout. | ||
| They're estimating five five million. | ||
| Like, that's not nothing, right? | ||
| But at large, the Democrat Party really just feels demoralized, and that's a really worrying thing. | ||
| And I don't think these No Kings protests are going to mask the reality, which is that the Democrat Party is ultimately shut out of power. | ||
| They're realizing this with the shutdown. | ||
| They're realizing the Republicans are like, okay, fine, we'll just sit back and wait for you guys to come to the negotiating table. | ||
| It's a new look GOP combined with a demoralized Democrat Party. | ||
| Like, where does this go? | ||
| How do like this this doesn't look good from the calculus? | ||
| No, and I think uh I mean, they're really, you know, Democrats kind of again, it's the it's what we talked about earlier, the fact that the Obama administration's legacy is so poor that nobody's sticking by it at all. | ||
| But there's nothing else motivating it. | ||
| And so you end up with a case where the only people with like a positive vision for the country, or like at least something, a vision itself, right? | ||
| You know, is as they'd say the big Lebowski, like at least it's an ethos, the idea that, but at least the communists have an idea of what they want to do. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And I don't know that the boomer liberals have an idea of what they want to do with power. | ||
| I don't know that they do. | ||
| I think they just want to hold on to it for its own sake and for their own sake. | ||
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| And just stop people from deporting, you know, it's like an anti-deportation party, I guess. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But yeah, and and uh you know, you can see that with like they're they're trying to find a message, and the only one they can land on is healthcare, right? | ||
| They're like, ah, we're gonna make you know, put our flag down and fight to deal with the you know, bump in Obamacare insurance premiums. | ||
| It's like, well, that makes the question like why why are those premiums going to go up like crazy in the first place? | ||
| Oh, right, because Obamacare failed, because Obamacare is a mess and requires you know, a trillion and a half in subsidies just to make it so that people can have unbelievably crappy health insurance. | ||
| Like it's it's a completely miserable failure. | ||
| So they don't what what are they what's what's there? | ||
| What's motivating the moderate liberal left? | ||
| And as a result, you find them being they're all like the people who are doing pods of America, they're in the replies of Hassan Piker, right? | ||
| Who's just an anti-American communist? | ||
| Yeah, uh, another uh, you know, if not if not for the fact that he was born in New Jersey would be a great candidate for denaturalization and deportation. | ||
| It's true. | ||
| Uh but they're because Assan at least is saying, like, here's the project I want. | ||
| The DSA is at least saying here's what we're gonna do. | ||
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| We're gonna be socialists. | ||
| Yeah, it's a terrible idea, it's gonna ruin everything, but like it's something, so nothing. | ||
| No, it's true. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, because you yeah, and you have this like, yeah, like you're talking about like this Ezra Klein. | ||
| I don't even want to call it a wing of the Democrat Party because I really don't think they actually have that many ears and in the Democrat establishment. | ||
| I think, like you said, the older sort of rungs of the Democrat Party are really just concerned of maintaining political power. | ||
| And that's why you've got this schizophrenic messaging at the No Kings protests. | ||
| Like I was there, Bernie Sanders got up and he was like railing on like Elon Musk, and then yeah, like Media Hassan gets up and he's like complaining about ice. | ||
| It's like they they weren't even focused on like what specifically they had a problem about with Trump beyond the fact that he's Trump. | ||
| Yeah, and I think that's the you know, the Never Trump stuff is just completely lost, run out of gas, you know, all the law fare failed, all every project to get rid of Trump has completely failed at this point, and now Trump is at the apex of his power after 10 years of the Democrat movement being solely focused on taking him down, yeah. | ||
| Um, so it leaves them kind of bereft of a message, and it's gonna be hard for them to reconstruct out of this. | ||
| And I mean, you look at the polling, you know, people don't blame Trump for the shutdown. | ||
| Yeah, they think, oh, healthcare's good, but you know, the Democrats should probably come to the table. | ||
| And I mean, Republicans are gonna be willing to make some sort of deal, they don't want healthcare insurance premiums despite you know five X for people for a 10% of the population, they don't want that, so they'll figure out some sort of accommodation there. | ||
| Uh, but like that's why you're building your platform on. | ||
| And I guess the final point I would make or uh on that specifically is that you know what Ezra Klein just tried to do is this abundance thing, but Azure Klein knows that it's the crime issues and the illegal immigration use that are pissing everybody off, but it's such a core part of the Democratic Party platform that you can't get rid of it. | ||
| Yeah, so what do you what do you even do? | ||
| Like, you know, the Republicans get to stand on well, like we're just gonna make like better for people by putting criminals in jail and deporting illegal immigrants and releasing liberating energy policies and making it easier to have a family, yeah. | ||
| And like Democrats are stuck on, you know, of the if there are three big issues in in that dominate American politics right now, it's immigration crime and the economy, and the Democrats are on the 2080 side and two of them on immigration and crime. | ||
| Yeah, it's a disaster. | ||
| I mean, that's even a like no kings. | ||
| It's just they're not actually concerned about the they're on the wrong side of the policy. | ||
| They they're just convinced that it's maybe the messaging that's wrong. | ||
| So they keep trying to like repackage the messaging. | ||
| They trot out some like 25-year-old who has like, you know, the hedge fund manager dad to Like maybe try and like appeal to Zoomers or something. | ||
| And it's like, no, it's the policy sucks. | ||
| Like you can actually have terrible, you can have terrible messaging, but still get across the finish line with great policy. | ||
| The Republicans did it. | ||
| That can be a good thing. | ||
| Yeah, that's actually. | ||
| I mean, think about how little, you know, how much how hard Trump had to work to win in 2016 and how how aligned the messaging forces of the world were against him. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But he was just the guy saying uh illegal immigration is bad, crime is bad. | ||
| We should kick our enemies' asses, we've had fairer trade deals. | ||
| And just a huge chunk of the country is like, yeah, that yeah, we want that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| We want we want that. | ||
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And immigration is horribly unpopular everywhere. | |
| Everywhere. | ||
| Not just in the United States. | ||
| It's it's it's the driver of every politics in a Western country. | ||
| And it's driver politics of Japan now, too. | ||
| It doesn't matter where you are. | ||
| Like every every existing Western society, the popularity of immigration is just a at best 6535 against. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And yeah. | ||
| So like if you're running on the wrong side of that, you're just you're struggling for a message because the other guy side gets to say about because it's it's such a meta issue. | ||
| It controls how everything else in society works. | ||
| You know, like you're talking about healthcare. | ||
| It's like, okay, but illegal immigration is a big driver of the cost of healthcare because illegal immigrants consume so much healthcare at the emergency room, which is why you have everybody has to go to some crappy uh urgent care and get mediocre care there because they can't go to the emergency room because it'll line's insane. | ||
| Like it every, you know, housing prices, illegal immigration. | ||
| Like you you crime illegal immigration, but all it all ties together. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's an even it even trickles down to like the crappy manifestations of liberal democracy. | ||
| Like I was in Zambia and I was asking like a cab driver, I was like, What is the big problem? | ||
| And he's like, It's these Malawians coming in causing problems. | ||
| So it's like even like even in the heart of Africa, they're like fed up with illegal immigration. | ||
| So yeah, it's true, it's true everywhere. | ||
| And I mean, it's it's a fundamental source of tension in all these western democracies. | ||
| And and until and unless I mean, we're in a position we're lucky we in the sense that uh we don't have the problems that like the United Kingdom does or France does, where they're they're having a whole new set of problems where they've got because they have mass Muslim immigration, which is I would say honestly, the worst mind. | ||
| Oh, yeah, frankly. | ||
| Uh, like you, you know, you have like outright Islamist MPs in Britain bragging about banning Israeli soccer fans from showing up to us game. | ||
| Uh thankfully we don't have that, but it's an indicator, it's a reminder that we need to make sure that you know the border is the one place we actually can enforce these things because we have the first amendment protecting freedom of speech and freedom of religion in a way that the European countries don't, so they can be more aggressive about dealing with the downsides of Islamist politicians, but we can't, so we need to like make sure that there is not serious Islamic immigration to our country. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| Well, well, we're uh we're running out of time. | ||
| So uh, first of all, happy Diwali and uh where can people find and the spirit of mass immigration, yeah. | ||
| Yeah, you can find me at Will Chamberlain on X. You can find the article three project at A3P Action.com where you can see what we're going what we have going on in terms of uh projects, activism projects that you can email your senators and representatives for. | ||
| Uh and those are those are the two big places. | ||
| But follow me on X. Sweet, love it. | ||
| Well, appreciate it, Will. | ||
| Till next time. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
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| All righty. | ||
| Well, that was the great Will Chamberlain. | ||
| That was fantastic. | ||
| He came in and uh he explained it all. | ||
| See, I can't, I can't sometimes I can't um sort of articulate it that high of a level. | ||
| So he comes in and just drives it home. | ||
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