Who Really Killed Charlie Kirk? Truth Behind Kirk Assassination w/ Myron Gaines & Ryan Matta
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It has been 16 days since Charlie Kirk was assassinated.
And, you know, I'll just throw my cards out there.
I largely believe what we're getting from the FBI is correct, though there are a lot of questions about it because, look, we're not children.
You don't need to just blindly believe everything the government tells you.
But when we break down all of the theories running wild, I think the simple narrative that we are getting tends to be the correct one.
But there are a lot of unanswered questions, even if you do believe the work of Cash Dan and Pam Bondi.
There are questions about how could this have been a lone shooter?
How could people have had foreknowledge posting on social media seemingly knowing this was going to happen?
Because of these things, because of ballistics, there have been dozens of videos which have cracked millions of views claiming new evidence, new conspiracies, trapdoors, cement being poured, palm guns, a man hiding in the bushes.
Well, we don't really know for sure, but we're going to discuss it, debate it, break it down, and have a general conversation over why people are saying the things they're saying.
But I'll just start with this, just so you guys know my position.
There's a lot of money to be made in a lot of these narratives.
And I think if you came out and said, we don't actually know, well, for the most part, people aren't going to click that video.
But if you make a video titled, Who Really Killed Charlie Kirk? The Truth Behind the Kirk assassination, maybe people will click that one, which is what we titled this video.
But I think it's because I actually want to take a look at all of this stuff.
Some of these videos, I believe, are easily debunked, which is really frustrating to see 6 million views on a video where within three seconds, I'm not trying to be a dick, but the dude contradicts his own argument.
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So I think it's important that we can break this down and have this conversation.
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Let's get into it.
So let me just pull up this story first, and we're going to start with some of these theories.
I also want to stress that any information we don't have, as we're basically trying to do a deep dive on all this stuff, comments, rant, and chat if you have any information you want us to pull up and look at.
And we'll take a look at this and we will try to assess it.
And we'll break all this down.
Let me actually start by saying this, what we think we know.
And I say that because the investigation is ongoing.
And I don't think, I think a lot of people are trying to claim the FBI is lying to us and all that.
No, I think Cash has been as honest as he can be.
I mean, he's working to a degree and intelligent, so he can't just leak all this information, especially if they're building a case.
This individual was seen limping on a private security camera towards the UVU.
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He was seen on video on the roof fleeing after the shot was taken, apparently holding something that appears to be a gun.
The bullets, as reported by the feds, had engravings on it with memes and messages.
And this individual had a long conversation with his transgender boyfriend, basically saying, here's why I did it.
And, you know, here's what I was doing.
Now, there are questions that people have that I think are warranted, such as the ballistics, which I think can be answered.
I think certainly people who are tracking ballistics are making interesting points, but I think there's a lot of people that are jumping the gun and saying outright, oh, it's not possible.
And we'll get to that stuff in the greater conversation.
But as to the story that we have so far, everyone has questioned the conversation between the boyfriend and the alleged shooter because it reads very scripted.
At the bare minimum, it's transposed because it's not a single typo.
Matt Walsh has suggested that the boyfriend was involved, and this message was to create reasonable doubt in a potential court hearing.
The FBI is investigating Discord chats and other potential groups, these queer and trans rifle groups, because there were seven accounts online that had foreknowledge or presented information that appeared to show foreknowledge of the assassination plot, indicating it's likely not a lone wolf.
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But that being said, before we dive into some of these conspiracy theories, we'll just throw it to you guys and I'll ask you guys what you think is going on.
Yeah, so I think we got a lot of misguided stories from the FBI and from our government and then from the mainstream media.
It seems like that they're using the media to basically present and push out a narrative.
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And then once we tear apart that narrative, they're coming back and saying, oh, wait, there was no official FBI statement.
So I think we should start at the very beginning.
And the first big break in the story, I think, was when Blake Bednars went through all the footage and he realized he said, hey, the people in the cafeteria, and I showed this to Myron on the way here, you can see the people in the cafeteria that filmed the video of the man running across the roof, right?
I just want to clarify that when you're discussing the three seconds, are you referring to device timestamps?
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Or are you saying, regardless of the time in the video, it was three seconds?
I'm saying in the video in the cafeteria, he's running on the roof.
You see that.
And then you see the crowd scrouching down.
The crowd in that video just realized Charlie had been shot.
So then I went to the outside video and I'm watching and I watch the shot go off and you hear bang and I go, okay, I'm just watching the timestamp on the video.
How long it takes the crowd to actually start scrouching down.
That means that the man is running on the roof within three seconds of the shot being fired.
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Yeah.
Okay, so you're a sniper, you're laying on the roof, you take this shot, and somehow you magically are up in a full sprint with the rifle in hand within three seconds.
But, and I'm not saying this, I'm just, I'm just kind of adding this in my view.
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It looks like it makes sense that someone took a shot and then immediately just bolted.
Yep.
And then can I add to this?
Yeah.
So then Candace goes, yeah, two days ago, she went and tracked down the very first video of the guys that are kind of walking up and they go, hey, is there somebody on that roof up there?
Yeah.
Okay.
So in that video, they're going, man, the guy just ran across.
The official narrative has me very skeptical on a couple of things.
And one of the things that bothers me is like, remember when they released that footage when they were trying to identify him and he jumps off?
Yeah.
They don't show you where he's there and takes the shot, right?
So I'm like, why did you guys not show us that so that we can like literally see him taking a shot, getting up, running across so that we know he's a shooter?
Well, yeah, but is that is that like sensitivity reasons maybe?
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Like we don't want to show the actual murder.
Well, here's here's the thing.
I think if you're going to put it out anyway to try to get the guy identified, you should put out everything.
Well, and the fact that they didn't show that bothers me.
I mean, actually, I would defer to you.
You did law enforcement.
My concern would be, could that compromise a criminal case against him?
No, because if there's something in it that is identifying that if you release to the public, you could get false confessions or right?
They don't want it.
Maybe he did something unique that they can prove in court that nobody knows and they don't want these, you know.
Yeah, of course.
But when you got a case of this type of magnitude where, you know, you have an enormous burden of, you know, bearing some type of public trust and people are asking questions.
And obviously, Kash Patel is like, look, I'm going to try to be the most transparent FBI.
And what I will also say is that I think it's important that we understand that he was charged by the state, which means since he was charged by the state, it's actually the Utah law enforcement locals that are running the case.
They are, but at this point, the state's running the criminal investigation since it's going through a state court.
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Well, if the state's looking to bring charges, wouldn't the state say, look, this is the evidence that we don't want you to make public because we're building a case from the federal perspective?
We already know that no one trusts the FBI anymore, right?
So it's like, is it going to hurt your investigation significantly when you already released a portion of the video from a criminal investigation standpoint?
But then I would also wonder, what if there's like, this is the 5% time where there's something unique to the case we don't know that could compromise their investigation?
Like, what if there is a potential link between, let's put it this way.
And this is just hyper speculation to make an example.
Sure.
The conversation between the suspected assassin and the transferry boyfriend is, well, I'm just trying to be factual.
So Matt Walsh's theory is that they scripted this conversation immediately afterwards to create reasonable doubt in the event the boyfriend's ever charged with something as an accomplice.
The boyfriend can then go to trial and say, look at this message.
It proves the boyfriend didn't know, or at bare minimum, presents reasonable doubt.
There have been some people who have said, trust me, I like there are these online accounts that track the far left and they're like, these wacko trans-furry internet anime dudes literally talk like this because they've got some kind of like developmental, weird social thing.
But, and this is again, just for the purpose of example, what if in the video it shows potential contact or some kind of connection between the boyfriend and accomplice and the shooter?
So the first thing that they told us was there was this big plot on Discord.
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And then the day after the CEO of Discord comes out and says, we've reviewed every single piece of communication that Tyler made on Discord and there was never any plotting or planning of any type of violence.
These are students at the university that have been just relentless about going through and finding every piece of footage.
So in the original video, that 60-minute live stream, there's a part of the video where you can see this man filming on the railing that's directly across from Charlie, probably 45, 50 yards out, and he's filming with this high-end Sony camera.
Maybe it was just the way his body reacted and the mic kind of came up and something broke in the mic that when the when the necklace broke, it kind of broke that thing.
But something like shoots up, or it looks like it shoots up, it goes up into his shirt and then instantly snaps back down in slow motion.
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And all the experts that were saying that he originally was wearing a bulletproof vest, they're going, you're watching something like they said that.
They're not experts when they said that.
Well, they were saying that his body reacted before you actually seen the hole.
So his body recoiled.
Then all of a sudden it was like something hit the vest and the bullet shot up into it.
The thing is, is that there's so many different, because with this situation, first it was he had bullet, you know, bulletproof armor and it ricocheted up and hit him in the neck.
You know, I'm obviously like looking at all the evidence.
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I'm just extremely skeptical of everything they've been telling us because it's like, you know, one thing comes out and they're like, oh, no, that's not true.
Like, I just heard that the rifle you were telling me that they had the picture of, that's not even the rifle that they seized.
I'm pretty sure.
There's no serial number on the rifle.
So the first thing is the photo that came out of the rifle.
So this is DOJ.gov ATF document that says, it'll probably be easier to read if I just do this.
It says the ATF and other law enforcement located an older model imported Mauser 30 out 6 caliber bolt action rifle wrapped in a towel in a wooded area near the campus.
So here's the important thing.
We don't know if that rifle was even the ATF owns.
It's still fair to say this does not confirm it.
And I would wait for an official statement.
And the reason why is this is the initial report they got, which also mentions Cartridge expressing transgender and anti-fascist ideology.
It is fair to say that what was written on that could be better described.
Transgender and anti-fascist ideology is not incorrect, but is it possible that the initial report from the ATF when they found the rifle was the presumption of a 30 out 6 they included in their report?
And then later they're like, oh, actually, it was a 308.
It's probably mostly accurate because the fact that they subpoenaed him so quickly after, there's definitely an internal affairs DOJ.
I'm just saying, is it possible when the ATF on and when the law enforcement found it, a guy who didn't know said 30 out 6 but wasn't sure, like made a mistake?
Nah, all those guys at ATF were.
No, no, this was law enforcement who recovered it, not ATF.
They have one of the most intensive academies when it comes to firearms and identifying farms because if you charge someone with 18 USC 922, right, which is found in possession of a firearm, one of the things you need to establish is something called interstate nexus.
And for you to establish interstate Nexus, you need to have the firearm, do a test fire, and then establish that different parts of that gun come from different places, therefore affecting interstate commerce.
So everyone at the ATF, especially the agents, all have a ridiculous amount of knowledge for the guns because they have a very difficult test to graduate their academy.
This is actually a really good breakdown or pause point to say we're not even thinking that.
Right.
They found a gun.
We don't know for sure this is the gun that he had.
We assume it is.
Now, I do.
Based off the text messages.
Exactly.
Which are weird.
And if there was multiple people involved, that could have been the trans boyfriend's gun that was waiting for backup fire or anything.
We don't know.
Exactly.
Right.
The trans boyfriend.
And again, why the messages are so weird.
That may have been crafted.
This is, listen, what if some have speculated the trans boyfriend is the actual shooter and that the guy who got arrested is just taking the fall for it.
I mean, honestly, we have no idea, but you make a good point.
What if the reason those messages were crafted was because the boyfriend was like, uh-oh, they're going to find the backup gun.
Yeah, true.
He vanished yesterday, by the way.
Yeah.
He's gone missing.
Yeah.
Well, people have said, the neighbors have said the house, the mail is piling up.
They don't know where he's at.
So, well, why wouldn't you?
It seems like I want to stress this.
I think it's absolutely fair to look at all the evidence laid before us.
You made a great point that the FBI has not formally stated it's a 30 at 6.
That I was unaware of.
The knowledge of this comes from a leaked message for which Crowder's been subpoenaed for.
It's got 6 million views from Range Day Bro, which I'm not going to show.
He actually shows a bit.
I'm not going to play it.
I just got to say to Range Day Bro, I watched the video, and there's a point where he explains that Charlie Kirk was shot from behind, but then shows a video of the people in front of Charlie Kirk and says that's where the shooter may have been.
And I'm like, but that's in front of Charlie Kirk.
So how could it have come from behind and the front?
That being said, he points to this grainy image, which I might be able to highlight without actually showing anything graphic.
I'm going to pull up this image so you can see what it showed me when, let me see if I can, I got it right here.
Let me let's the friend.
Here you go.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
Hold on.
Hold on.
Nope.
Here it is.
This is not a joke.
Joe Biden.
I took a screenshot and I wrote, enhance this image to full clarity.
And it gave me an image of Joe Biden in Marine Corps camera.
That's funny.
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So anyway, I'll just, there's a lot of people who are getting angry about the conspiracy theories and all this stuff.
And my attitude is I think it is important that we assess this stuff.
I think you're actually bringing up really great points about what we do know and what's confirmed by law enforcement and what's not.
But like, look at this thing.
Yeah.
And I thought that I like it.
I think the best way to handle this is like, as evidence comes in, you would be keep an open mind, analyze the evidence, see how credible it is, link it with whatever other evidence you have.
And, you know, there's just been so many different theories that have come out there.
I don't know, but it's effectively absolving violent far leftists that have been threatening Charlie Kirk's life for a long time and who are the primary suspects in this.
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A lot of the conspiracy theorists, I really still believe that there are so many people that feel like they got taken by the government when it comes to the COVID narrative or other things that have come to light in the past that the government's admitted to lying about.
They're looking for another narrative that the government doesn't, that doesn't line up with what the official narrative is because they don't want to feel like they got tricked by the government.
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I want to say this, too.
I want to say this.
So Israel is our greatest ally and they're really in a bad spot right now, right?
Okay, so they're really in a bad spot publicly and with both left and right.
Now, there's a nine, probably 50 to 75% of people are convinced that Israel was involved in this in some way, shape, or form.
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If you're the FBI, and you can, if you, if you're the FBI, you and your Turning Point USA, Turning Point USA had three cameras filming at 30 to 60 frames per second.
There's so many FX3s or FX30s with G-Master lenses on them.
There's seven or three of cameras within seven feet of Charlie.
You can see two, at least one in the right edge of that corner right there.
There's one right to his left and there's one directly behind him.
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We also have Turning Point employees tampering with an active crime scene, which I vouch for them.
I said, you know, as a videographer, I don't trust this FBI.
If I thought that I had video footage of Charlie's assassin on one of my memory cards and I'm thinking that the FBI is going to get the only video footage of this evidence, I would have taken that memory card too.
And then Ian Carroll goes, yeah, but you're the type of dude who would have uploaded it online immediately after.
And I go, that's the first thing I would do is upload that.
So you're right.
I wouldn't have taken those cards and hid that footage.
Candace says she's seen the footage, but she's only seen the camera from behind him.
And she saw it on FaceTime.
Yes.
And there's two cameras directly in front of him.
So all I'm saying is if it is their obligation, because it would totally dismiss every conspiracy theory.
And because me and Ryan were talking about this too, because he was saying, like, look, if a bad narrative comes out, are the feds going to come in and correct it?
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Me, let me put my agent hat back on.
No, you're going to, you're not going to correct it.
You're going to be like, let them run whatever they want.
I'm still running my case.
You're not going to care if I'm the investigator.
But the problem is now you're getting to a point where people don't trust the government.
So you need to be transparent to some degree, especially at least to deal with some of these conspiracy theories because they run wild when you don't present everything.
Andy addressed the one with the plane.
Cash has been literally going and addressing conspiracy theories on his, on his personal Twitter.
The press conferences that they've done are fucking garbage.
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Like, they don't talk about anything.
They don't answer anything.
They let the stupid governor talk.
Put a law enforcement guy there.
That's running the case.
What you're describing is that, but there's two different, I mean, ends that you're talking about, right?
Like, what the FBI is looking for is to have the proper process, you know, ostensibly to have the proper process to find the person guilty and then, of course, put him in jail.
What's good for the overall government is not what's good for the FBI in that process.
What's good for the overall government and for the American people are different because it's better for the overall government to release all the information as much as you can.
So that way that might hopefully help to reinstill trust in the government.
But they have a very bad habit of overclassifying things and not being transparent.
So, you know, and this is why people don't trust them anymore.
And this is why other law enforcement agencies hate working with them because they just have this very bad habit of stealing information.
If they get it, they don't share information.
They classify everything.
So I think at this point, with the huge amount of distrust the public has with FBI, they need to come out and at least dispel these myths.
And I don't, like, for example, releasing the full footage of the guy shooting the gun, then getting, then getting up and running across the roof, that's not going to hurt your investigation, dude.
He says, as a director of the FBI, I am committed to ensuring the investigation into Charlie Kirk's assassination is thorough and exhaustive, pursuing every lead to its conclusion.
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The full weight of America's law enforcement agencies are actively following the evidence that has emerged, but our efforts extend beyond initial findings.
We are examining every facet of this assassination.
We are meticulously investigating theories and questions, including the location from where the shot was taken, the possibility of accomplices, the text message confession and related conversations, Discord chats, the angle of the shot and the bullet impact, how the weapon was transported, hand gestures observed as potential signals near Charlie at the time of the assassination, and visitors to the alleged shooter's residence in the hours and days leading up to September 10th.
Some details are known today, while others are still being pursued.
To ensure every possibility is considered, our primary focus is to complete this investigation and deliver justice.
To protect the integrity of the investigation and subsequent prosecution, we cannot release every piece of information we have to the public right now.
We will ensure every question is addressed at the appropriate moment.
Regarding specific details, such as questions about the plane that allegedly turned off its transponder after departing from an airport near the assassination site, we can share updates when answers are confirmed.
After interviews with the pilot and the consultation with the FAA, we determined the transponder was not turned off.
But what I will say is there are two principal scenarios with Kash Patel and Dan Bongino.
And the reason why I lean towards they are telling the truth is either Cash and Dan are in on the conspiracy, whatever it may be, or they're telling us the truth.
I do not believe that Cash and Dan Bongino, who are really good friends with Charlie, would have allowed him to be murdered and would be in on anything like that.
The only argument to that is the theory that Charlie Kirk escaped through a trapdoor and the whole thing was fake and Cash and Dan and Charlie are, there's no way, dude.
Okay, well, what about you to make so many leaps?
Okay, hold on.
I think he's an improvement from before, of course, right?
Doesn't Kash Patel, isn't it FBI policy that him and Bongino both, because they're emotionally, neither of them would have had their positions, that they would have got appointed by the Trump administration if it wasn't for the work that Charlie Kirk and his organization did.
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Isn't it policy that they would recuse themselves from this investigation?
And then take it a step further and you go, okay, well, keep in mind they're not the best.
Let's address that one.
Let me, let me, you can break that down.
But what I want to make this last point is that, okay, so if they can't release this video that shows Tyler in the prone position taking this shot, and this does become something bigger, you now have George then with his Depatsy, then that would make Tyler and them on the roof, that guy not be the shooter.
And then you start to look at all the moving parts and you go, well, who would be capable of carrying that out?
And then you have just now a release that there was no autopsy done, that the coroner, that the doctor just signed off the death certificate, there was no autopsy actually done.
And they did find the bullet or they didn't find the bullet.
And according to the turning point spokesperson, he got information from a doctor, which would violate every HIPAA law and released information without a written statement.
Yeah, shooting the rifle, people don't know this, is actually significantly easier than shooting a handgun.
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I suck with handguns.
Yeah.
I shouldn't say that because then people know, but I'm bad.
Rifles are way easier to shoot than handguns.
But, you know, I do think, you know, releasing that footage wouldn't hurt.
But yeah, there's been, yeah, the autopsy thing you were mentioning.
And then like, I think the New York Post reported a couple of days ago that the surgeon said, oh, he blocked, you know, he has really, his bones blocked the bullet.
But look, so there, so a statement was made.
Andrew Colvett came out and he wrote this big long thing saying, I talked to the doctor.
The other thing I want to mention, too, in this regard with like, you mentioned Cash being too close to this case.
People need to understand that we don't live in a locked, rigid world of laws.
The only laws that actually bind us are the physical laws.
And laws are ignored all the time.
It's not about what the law says.
It's about what people are willing to do.
And so I'll just say this.
Fair point.
If the law says you can't, certainly never stop the bank robber.
So, if people are like, but he wouldn't be allowed to share it because of HIPAA, I'm like, unless they just said they did not care and did it anyway, because who's going to go after him?
Let me explain this real quick, because this is important.
So, as a director of the FBI, right, you're so high up, like, he's not running the case.
There's going to be an FBI special agent, a GS-13, that's probably going to be run this investigation with a squad where there's an SSA or supervisory special agent over him, then an ASAC and everything else like that.
Now, obviously, they're reporting what they're finding up the chain to him, but as far as like making decisions on the investigation, that's on the case agent.
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So, he's going to know everything.
So, about the bullet, the exit wound stuff, there are a bunch of these videos from gun guys who have like they've done ballistics tests, they've gone viral.
And what I don't understand about this is that, well, I don't want to impugn anyone's honor, so I won't say anyone specifically, but it took me just a couple of seconds to make a few phone calls from ballistic experts, gun guys, and then backing it up with general research to find that a .30 out 6 does stop in the body.
The argument that people are making that it would have blown his neck out and there would have been a massive exit wound is the general assessment from everything, everyone I've talked to and read is probably, but not always.
And so, to the point you made about Colvett saying it was like a magic bullet, or not, he didn't say it was magic bullet, he said Charlie was so young and strong that his body stopped the bullet and he saved his body.
The ball stopped it or something like that.
And that's probable, or I should say that is possible is a better way to describe it.
So, I made some calls, I asked some people, I did some online research, and we even have a super chat right here.
Everyday Tinkerer says, The explosion honestly looks to me like cavitation.
If it was a 30 at 6, 125 grain, SST, NOS, BT, WinXP would be light enough not to exit and cause massive cavitation.
When you watch the video, when I watch that video, this is my- Is it a lower quality version of the round?
The small light weight, so the grains of the bullet, right?
Okay, you can get a 30-caliber bullet, you can get a bunch of different weights.
And maybe, and maybe what, like soft tip, like nine mil.
Because I'm thinking in my head, like there's nine mil that's like, that sucks, and there's nine mil that's really good.
Yeah, so like you know, like a nine mil, sometimes it's like you can get them that are 115 or 145 grains.
When I was at a restaurant with my family or with friends and my wife, my family, and uh, I have told this story before.
The first video that I saw, I thought it quality is low, it's far away.
I was like, maybe a handgun up close, Charlie can survive.
And the initial rumors that were going around was that a man was screaming at him.
This is what people are saying: a man was screaming at him about trans people and then shot him.
And so, when I saw the video, I was like, maybe it was a small caliber handgun.
I think Charlie will be okay.
Luke Rutkowski hit me up and he was like, Long story short, there's no way you got to see this other video.
As soon as I saw the first frame of the video, I knew that Charlie was gone.
More importantly than for most people, a lot of, I know this is pretty gruesome to talk about, but we're trying to get to this, right?
We're trying to understand what's going on.
The blood that comes out, Charlie's lights went out instantly, which indicates it hit his spine.
Agree, probably.
And so, when people are saying, Where's the exit wound?
I'm like, a bullet entering from a high angle at a downward angle struck Charlie's spine, stopping the bullet from exiting and knocking and killing him instantly.
And Frank Turek said the same thing.
When they brought him to the vehicle, he was in the car and they were trying to stop the bleeding.
He knew that Charlie was already gone, that his lights went out in an instant.
You were able to get a pulse back on him right when he got to the hospital for a short period of time.
That's what I was told to learn.
And that's where, right.
And that's so I also had a high-level source, a direct source saying that they stabilized Charlie.
And people got mad at me for tweeting that, but I'm like, you know what, man?
This is the human emotional state.
Well, I'm glad you did, bro, because I was on stream and you did that.
And I know, like, I was like, okay, I got a glimmer of hope here.
I mean, he was literally helped promote Cash's fight with Cash.
He brought him on his show.
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And when I was trying to promote my documentary, it wasn't directly through Charlie.
I would have to go through another ad, like a company that was kind of working with Charlie and could get me on his podcast, but it was like 25 grand to get on there for a show.
So like that's, that's a big financial investment.
He could bring you on a show, whether it was for free or whether it was to say thank you or whatever the reason was.
There is a direct tie between the cash's nonprofit and Charlie Kirk helping promote it and fundraise for it.
Remember the only cash thing that was going around when you're trying to get cash confirmed.
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So you have two direct conflict of interest where you would think that he would say, this according to Kyle Serafin, would say that like, hey, listen, I'm financially or emotionally involved.
Me and Dan Bongino are both going to personally recuse ourselves from this investigation.
We're not going to look at it.
We're not going to touch it.
We fully trust our secretary, the new agent in charge, the ASEC in charge, and we're going to leave the investigation right there.
We're going to part with it.
Yeah, I mean, they're like, but that's FBI policy.
That's their policy, not my opinion.
Their policy.
And so they broke the policy.
This is the thing about when your good friend is murdered, you're going to be like, stop me.
Aren't they going to have a problem when Kash Patel is violating their own policy?
I got to be honest, dude.
There are things that I would do that are indescribable regardless of what the policy states.
And like, we have to understand, once again, we can make a procedural argument, but Cash is violating policy.
And I'll be like, I'm sure Cash would have beaten that man to death with his bare hands if he was there.
So to say that Cash and Dan would not fly out for the murder of their friend Two hours, Cash, two hours after this story broke, after Charlie was shot, Cash was dining at an upscale New York restaurant.
You could fact check me on that.
And making a phone call to Charlie.
For 12 hours, for 12 hours, Cash did not even receive a photo of the suspect for 12 hours after the investigation.
How are you the FBI director?
Please explain this to me.
Your buddy, your buddy, your best friend, Charlie Kirk takes a bullet to the neck.
Then you go out and get a steak dinner, and then 12 hours later, you still haven't seen a photo of the suspect.
And chartering a private jet isn't something you can do instantly.
You've got to call in a ground crew.
Ground crew has FAA restrictions on when they can fly.
This is why when Kanye West came on this show and had a private jet waiting for him, we called shenanigans because you can't get ground crew.
They're under restrictions.
It's something that I forget what it was, but he storms out of the show, goes right to the local regional airport, and there's a jet waiting for him with the crew active.
And I said, we called our charter company, and they said that's not possible that he called and got a private jet on the spot like that because there's FAA restrictions on how long someone has to be awake for and how long they've been awake, they can't fly or something like this.
So I'm just saying there's a million and one, there's an infinite possibility of reasons why Cash did not immediately run onto a plane and flat there, possibly chartering issues.
Maybe the plane wasn't even in New York at the time, whatever it might be.
I don't think any of that is indicative of potential wrongdoing.
I'll speak to this.
Real quick, we can certainly say Cash should have followed policy.
He should have recused himself.
I'm also going to be like, the things I think Cash and Dan would have done would have probably put them in prison if they were there on the spot.
It's like I'm watching the show Peacemaker, and I know this is just fiction, but it's Rick Flagg just mercilessly beats Peacemaker for killing his son.
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The things a person would do.
So getting on a plane, flying there in violation of policy is like the lightest things that you'd probably imagine.
What I'll say, just because I, as a director, you're really high up and you're the face of the agency.
He's not there making on-ground decisions when it comes to the actual investigation.
He could have been the one giving the announcements and everything else like that.
But I do think it's important for people to understand that, like, it goes special agent, then it goes SSA, then it goes ASAC, this is special agent in charge, then it goes to SAIC, special agent in charge.
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Then you go into like directors, then you go all the way up and continue to work your way up.
But I do think there is a possibility of conspiracy beyond the official story we're getting.
I think Cash has made that point.
He doesn't know what he's investigating.
And as to the point about Yuri's Bezbanov, I think it's important to consider that the motive for the assassination of Charlie Kirk, excuse me, may not be that this guy is just some fringe lefty wacko who hated Charlie Kirk.
It may actually be that these leftists were like, how do we foment conflict and crisis in this country?
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And the real plan between this trand armed group is more sophisticated than we want to admit.
Yeah, I mean, like I said, for me, I want the autopsy and I want the full footage of us seeing this guy take the shot from a prone position like they're saying and running across.
I want to see that so that we can kind of build, you know, the timeline better.
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And the fact that like we don't have this stuff, it's creating more questions than answers.
I'll say the same thing, which is what's leading to all these different theories.
If you can't release that footage and there is something bigger here, then obviously the first suspect would be Israel because they literally have an entire Wikipedia page dedicated to previous assassinations that they carried out.
I think it's silly to argue simultaneously that he had a secret meeting with Bill Ackman and the Hamptons to convince Gen Z to support Israel and then Israel killed him.
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So the argument right now on Israel is Israel is losing support at a tremendous rate among the young generation.
Well, I think that he was, I think that you put all this money into this man.
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You have an investment.
And then you're looking at the last two weeks, maybe three weeks of his life.
And you're going, oh, if this man is turning, if he is going to stand up and speak out against what happened in Gaza, I mean, he was on the Patrick Depp Bavit show saying like, listen, I was in Israel and it took me 45 minutes to get into a chopper and fly across the country.
So you're mean to tell me that for six hours that Israel didn't respond to the attacks on October 7th and he's going, how is that possible?
But look, even that's long term because young people historically don't vote.
So even if they don't support Israel, right?
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You still got the majority of voters in the U.S. are going to be the boomers, people 55 and older.
So it'll still take time.
Yeah, it'll still take time for that voting block to actually have enough influence to change policy.
I just, I think the people who are trying to justify Israel as the culprit are people who, I mean, look, Ian Carroll was like, I can't believe we figured out it was Israel right away.
And it's like, I can't believe that he figured out.
That day, he said, it's within 24 hours, everyone figured out who the likely suspect was.
He said he was their greatest advocate and they killed him.
I saw a video where Charlie asked Ben Shapiro about, Charlie says to Ben, what would you say to someone who describes what's going on in Gaza as a genocide?
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And then it slowly zooms in on Ben's face and doesn't edit.
So Ben goes like, and it's like trying to imply that Charlie had turned on Israel.
CP does mean child porn, but pizza and pasta, that connection doesn't exist anywhere.
It was just made up at some point.
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I argued, guys, the feds are throwing you off the trail of what's actually going on with these emails that got leaked, which are likely indicative, in my opinion, of doing drugs at high-profile parties, playing dominoes on pizza and pasta.
A guy shows up to a pizza place, shoots into the concrete floor, gets arrested, and they say you're all a bunch of crackpot weirdos for believing this.
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Despite the fact we eventually learned the Epstein stuff is true, their goal is to throw you off the trail with nonsense.
What we want to do is we want to look at everything that's been laid out.
Someone else pointed out in the chat that gives it a bit more credibility.
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Someone pointed out, and this is important.
Someone pointed out in the chat that when that ATF document was leaked, the ballistics had not returned yet on whether or not it really was a 30 out 6 rifle.
It was just the expert opinion of the ATF guys who saw it.
Because I've been at the scene of stuff like this where a case is breaking.
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It's huge.
It's hitting the news.
New information is coming in.
Facts are changing constantly as you're doing interviews.
You're collecting evidence.
Things change constantly.
So yeah, it could have been like, hey, it looked like it was a Microsoft Teams chat or something like that where they're just in a group chat answering questions, talking to each other, whatever.
So they say the fog of war, well, the fog of investigation is very real too, and especially in the beginning.
Here's an interesting Patriot super chat is saying, I own a World War II Mauser 30 out 6.
The rounds made for those rifles are loaded to lower pressure due to the weaker receiver material technology.
This was something I was warned about because I bought an M1A and I'm not a gun guy, so forgive me.
But my understanding is that 308 is basically the same size, but a higher pressure.
And so they told me only use 762 in the M1A because the higher pressure could damage the gun or break it because M1A is an older technology or something to that effect.
So that seems reasonable as well.
I'll just put it like this.
We are not being told the truth is a fair assessment.
What the accusation, the left can, so while the right is arguing palm guns, guy in the bushes, dude, you know, trapdoor or whatever, Israel, I've heard some pretty wild conspiracy theories.
But if you look at the photos of where Charlie was sitting, the trapdoor was like way off to the left.
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That theory didn't even make sense.
Did that come from New York?
Right here, look right there.
Matt, who's the guy's name?
Matt Baker shared this photo or this video originally.
These are utility maintenance access doors commonly used in sidewalks and buildings, provide workers' access to electrical and plumbing and infrastructure.
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The left's conspiracy theory on this one is that Trump and the feds have been faking these.
First of all, they thought they think or they claim the assassination on Trump was staged.
Oh, you see the Matthew Crooks video that came out yesterday?
They say that when he fell down, he smacked a blood pack in his hat so he could stand up and have the blood coming down, despite the fact in the photos when Trump, in the photos from New York Times, you can see the blood on his hand.
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They argue that he had a hidden razor blade in his hat.
When he fell down, he slashed himself.
They first, in the mainstream media, argued that it wasn't a bullet.
The teleprompter shattered and the glass struck his head.
And then you got politics girl, who I believe is a Midas Touch podcast.
It could be wrong, saying that he came from a conservative background and the engravings on the bullets were just manufacturer markings.
Then you get Jimmy Kimmel coming out.
They are trying to do everything they can to cover it up.
The left is now arguing that Charlie Kirk was killed by Trump.
Not even, I kid you not.
There is someone that I will leave unnamed who was prominent in Hollywood who posted a video to their Instagram of a woman saying, in 1934, blah, blah, blah, Reichstag fire, Hitler did this so that he could gain power.
And you know why they're posting that.
The implication being that Trump had Charlie Kirk killed.
The left has been sharing a meme where it's a guy crying and pointing it under the camera, and it's titled Donald Trump Shooting Charlie Kirk when he realized he needs to cover up Epstein.
But there is another image that I want to share with you about the left conspiracy over the killing of Charlie Kirk.
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I posted this because it was on the front page of Reddit.
And here you go.
This is what is on the front page of Reddit.
Actually, let me open this and make it bigger.
It says Horst Vessel.
And this was viral.
I think I included 32,000 upvotes, six diamonds, 7,529 comments.
And it says, Nazi SA officer Horst Vessel was shot in his Berlin apartment by a local communist.
He would die of sepsis on February 23rd.
The incident would have been just another example of sectarian violence in Weimar, Germany, had it not been for the intervention of Nazi propagandist Joseph Goebbels.
Goebbels, is that you pronounce it?
Used his media connections and know-how to turn the man into a martyr for the Nazi party.
He extolled Vessel in Nazi newspapers and even gave a eulogy at his funeral.
They posted this because they're now trying to, this is where they're advancing their argument that Charlie Kirk was a Nazi, murdered, and Trump is now holding Nazi rallies.
They claimed the memorial form was a Nazi rally.
And what they are trying to tell liberals now is that everything Trump does, no matter what it is, is in support of the Nazi of expansion of Nazism to the point where RuPar called it a Reichstag fire, but one of them every week.
Craziness.
Yeah.
I guess I'll put it this way.
They just label you a fascist or a Nazi.
Never attack your ideas.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
That's just what they do.
So here we go into the bigger picture of the conspiracies, what's happening with this country.
Yahoo News.
This is this morning.
275 plainclothes agents in January 6 crowds from a congressional source said the FBI told him this.
And I think we're only now getting these details because, well, the Republicans have won and you've got Kash Patel in the FBI.
And now he has, he's digging through this, putting it out there.
So does this mean the stories about the buses filled with agents?
Because that's what, six, eight, maybe even 10 busloads of people at 275 agents.
How else do you get him there?
That's what I'm wondering.
So that must have facted out.
That was what congressman was that saying that they had video evidence of the buses.
Turns out it was a Capitol police officer evacuating the building.
But she thought it was the rioters come to kill her.
At first, the conservatives all came out and said that, but she's not in the Capitol building.
How would they have even got to her?
Every single mainstream media outlet, I'm being hyperbolic here, but most of them come out and say, fact check, false, AOC did tell the truth because tunnels connect the Capitol to the heart building.
Or I'm sorry, to the Cannon building.
And all the conservatives were like, yeah, but the button actually doesn't work.
Oh.
Yeah.
So I then listened to her story, checked the timeline, and this is February 5th or 6th of 2021.
And I said, AOC made the story up.
The time in which she detailed the, she ordered lunch, there was banging on her door, she hid in the bathroom.
The famous video where you see, what's it got, Ray Epps whisper to the guy, and then they push the barricades down and start walking up the concrete towards the building.
Well, I mean, she couldn't have known that there was any real threat.
Why would she be scared at all of literally anything?
She didn't know the bombs were planted.
She didn't know the cops were coming to evacuate her, and she didn't know there was going to be a riot at the Capitol that would have stormed in and broke anything.
That didn't happen until an hour later.
So why would she go and hide in her bathroom?
Honest question.
Unless she had foreknowledge that there was going to be a storming of the Capitol.
So when she heard the banging on her door, she went, oh shit.
It's happening.
And went and hid in her bathroom.
Now, she could have fabricated the whole thing and never actually hid in her bathroom.
Do you want to know what time that was, roughly, when she hid in the bathroom?
The timestamps that we have are when the fencers were torn down.
According to her story, the evacuations based on the pipe bomb is what she's the story she told.
The banging on her door was the Capitol Police officer evacuating because at 1247, I believe, they found a pipe bomb at the RNC and shortly after they found a pipe bomb at the DNC.
The Capitol Police then went to evacuate members of Congress.
He is a mainstream liberal Democrat media personality calling Charlie Kirk's assassination, the attack on ABC and the ICE attack Reichstag fires, saying Trump is doing these attacks.
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I'm done giving them the benefit of the doubt.
If AOC wants to publicly assert she hid in her bathroom from rioters, but it was an hour before the riot happened, then I'm going to go and say AOC was informed beforehand J6 was going to happen.
Yeah, and I'll take a step further.
I agree with what Nick Fuente said when he talked about there was a black gentleman after Charlie Kirk assassinated, went to that university, and he was like mocking them and he was live streaming it.
The point I'm making is if you go to a liberal and tell them this guy who shot Charlie Kirk, the evidence points to a liberal individual, they're going to say, nope, he was right-wing.
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The YouGov data shows us that.
Two to one, liberals believe that the Charlie Kirk assassin was a Trump supporter.
Obviously, it took the tragic death of Charlie for them to finally say, oh, maybe we need to reel in this leftist violence because here's the thing.
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If you're a right-wing advocacy group of some kind, if you gather or you have an organization, you could be rest assured there's going to be an open federal investigation on you.
They're going to try to get informants in there, undercovers, et cetera.
But I think a lot of this NGO money that also Lee Zeldon found through these environmental groups finds its way to direct action nonprofits that engage in violence.
And this is intentional because the activists will say at these meetings, and I've been to them, I have seen them say it, if the government finds out who's organizing and in charge, they will character assassinate or imprison you.
So they intentionally try to hide who's actually running the show.
Could it be possible that the actual nefarious group behind it is this left-aligned group?
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And the reason why we're having trouble breaking down exactly what happened and we're getting conflicting information is not that cash is doing anything wrong.
He's genuinely trying to figure this out, but it was a premeditated move by a highly organized, well-funded group that is the remnants of what was being dismantled by Trump's actions.
I've got smuggled across the Guatemalan border into Guatemala by the cartels on water rafts to specifically go document OMI, one of the main NGOs who was playing a major role in smuggling all of the women and children out of Guatemala into Mexico, went down there.
And so with Trump cutting off a lot of the funding to these various NGOs, it's not going to stop.
Like there's a couple of years of operation left.
And these groups may try and find outside funding through other means to maintain operations.
When I was at Occupy Wall Street, Fox News was claiming the protesters were paid to be there by George Soros.
And that is one of the stupidest ways to describe it and made it so easy to ignore.
On the ground at Occupy, the joke among the activists was, where's my Soros check?
The one thing that no one really understood what was really happening is that there were NGOs that operated out of New York that had received funding from Open Society Foundation and other groups.
Go and protest, organize, Occupy, and your paycheck is safe.
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That's how they do it.
Well, I'll say this.
I'm happy that he designated Antifa as a terrorist organization because what's going to happen now is whenever you put the T-word into an investigation, you get an enormous amount of funding.
Now, Joint Terrorism Task Force offices all across the country can target these guys.
They can really start to look at the money.
They can start going through fencing.
They can look at SARS and they can really attack it from the financial angle.
And the reason why this is good is because these JTTFs have an FBI guy.
They have an HSI guy.
They have an IRS guy.
They got DEA guys, ATF guys.
And they can now actually target these organizations appropriately and go after the money since it's under a terrorism initiative.
And this is what I've been saying for a very long time.
And that's why they've been able to kind of evade law enforcement and do all this BS for a while because they weren't properly targeted.
This is exactly why he made Trendor Araguas or whatever a terrorist organization.
Because when you make them a terrorist organization, now you can utilize all types of different resources to include intelligence services that collect information maybe not in a legal way or whatever, but now you can use all these resources to go after them.
Well, so he, domestic terrorist is not a legal distinction.
And I think the reason you know Stephen Miller knows this.
And I think the reason they haven't labeled Antifa a foreign terrorist organization, which grants them all of those powers you described, is take a look at the indictment of Comey.
Just happened the other day.
But there's special funding allotted via terrorism.
Trump had an attorney who wouldn't prosecute Comey.
If Trump got in and on day one said, I want you to go and bring a case against all of these people, the agents, the attorneys would be like, I'm not doing it.
This is crazy.
They're going to be like, the emperor has no clothes.
I think the reason Trump said Antifa are domestic terrorists is so that we are not going to see spying and mass surveillance or anything like this.
However, the debate happens in the media.
The right and the left are going to debate the merits of Antifa being terrorists, and you're going to create a 50-50 issue where the liberals say no and the right says yes.
Then, once this is normalized in the culture, Trump says FTO designation.
Why?
Netherlands is proposing it.
Poland is proposing it.
We just saw Antifund France and Italy.
And Trump's going to, he's going to say, we have evidence of financial ties between these groups.
This is a foreign international, this is a terrorist organization.
By then, when the liberals come out and say, he's calling them terrorists, everyone in the country, the normies, are going to go, he did that six months ago.
They're building cases against lower-level people so they can knock out key infrastructure among the deep state and then go for the higher private sector.
Well, that's why I hate indictments because indictments don't go into detail like the same level as a criminal complaint does.
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But they're going to talk about some of the stuff here.
Wow, this is wild.
Yeah.
He had the women sign NDAs.
Do not reveal the crime being committed.
I'll sue you.
Well, a lot of times that stuff happens because of the age of the victims offices.
What I'm saying is it is incredibly silly to be committing a serious felony federal crime and then ask them to sign an NDA that they won't reveal the crime being committed.
Like, oh, okay.
And a lot of people are probablyn't.
And a lot of the women are probably aren't educated enough to know.
They probably think they signed some type of NDA.
That's ironclad.
And if they speak out or say anything, that they're going to get cooked.
Real quick for me, Tim.
Which one, the first paragraph on the first page?
Yeah, one.
Yeah, I'm going to try to.
Okay, sex trafficking.
Okay, bam.
Okay, defendants.
Okay, so from at least one zone.
Discipline.
During such encounters, Ruben engaged in conduct beyond the scope of the women's consent.
So he, like, they're arguing this dude, tricked women into coming in, and then...
Yeah.
So this is very similar to Diddy.
Well, he said.
Yeah.
He said commercial.
That says commercial sex act.
That means he was hiring prostitutes, right?
And then doing things to them that they did not want to have happen.
That's like a horror movie.
This literally is like almost identical to the Diddy case.
Wow.
Because that's what they got Diddy for because this is going to sound funny because I actually watched a few days of the trial.
Really, what they're banging, you know, he's getting in trouble for is flying in these male prostitutes to have sex with Cassie.
That's what jammed them up because they affected interstate commerce because they were traveling interstate to engage in the sex act and they were getting paid.
You're right that.
So this looks very similar to the Diddy case here.
Howard would injure them at times, assuaged women, for example, telling them to ice their injuries and apply bruise cream.
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It's like a freak off.
Really, yeah.
On various occasions, victims notified Rubin and Powers that Rubin had caused lasting pain and physical injuries, including, for example, a woman's breast implant had flipped upside down and required surgery to fix.
We are seeing indictments, but it's coming from the ground up.
Comey just got indicted.
I think people.
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Let me put it this way.
We talked about it last night.
They picked him up this morning in Fairfield, Connecticut.
This guy.
Yeah, they picked him up this morning.
I put out a poll just now, and let me see if I have it here.
I said, do you think we are in a civil war, civil strife, or neither?
27.9 said civil war, 60 said civil strife, and 11.8 said neither.
It's normal.
FBI's lead agency, IRS Criminal Investigation Division, is the co-case, but it's an FBI-led case.
So let me ask you guys, with the assassination of Charlie Kirk, a week later, a liberal shot up an ABC station because of Charlie Kirk's suspension.
Several terroristic threats were sent to several more ABC stations.
Just this week, an ICE facility was targeted for the third time in three months.
He killed the alien, too.
He didn't even get right.
He's just shooting at the vehicle.
Yeah.
What do you guys think happens next?
I think we have a major false flag coming from something so massive that I think it either takes down the internet or because they have to do something where they take out the internet because we are breaking these things down so fast.
So whatever they do has to create so much chaos and so much damage that it really brings us to our knees as a country.
Remember, we were warned about the cyber 9-11 that this cyber attack would hit.
And many people may not know this, but there was something that happened in the early 2010s, I think it was called.
DNS cash poisoning.
It was such a very serious flaw in DNS.
I think it's domain name services that it would have destroyed the entirety of the internet.
And there was this dude, it's been a while.
Dan Kaminsky, he was a friend, but it's just been so long.
Not like a good friend of mine or anything.
Dan Kaminsky, he died.
He convened the great powers of the internet in secret, revealing this exploit that was called DNS cash poisoning.
And he said, if this exploit gets out, the entirety of the internet can be shut down.
And so all of these companies worked in secret to plug the gap and deal with the exploit.
After it was fixed, they announced that this thing had happened.
And he immediately took it down and said, no, no, I meant career.
BS.
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So the security assessment that we received, it was like 24-hour, 24-7 lockdown in the hotel with guards outside the front.
And I'm like, I'm not doing that.
Immediately following the assassination of Kirk, the general assessment was we need to wait to see where we end up in the next week or two so we can better assess the threat level.
I don't, the reason why I don't like to say this stuff is because people always say, Tim, you're blackpilled, you're pessimist, you're fanning the flames, it's rage bait.
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But in the context of this conversation, let me just say it.
You don't even need me to tell you this.
You don't even need Ryan's sources or the rumors he's hearing.
Take a look at how the left celebrated the assassination of Kirk, a terror attack a week later, a terror attack a week later.
Our security assessment is— Don't forget the Tesla bombings.
And the beginning of the exact year on Elon, destroyed the stock.
26, last night on IRL, 26 at the top of my head would compile the list of all the terror attacks that we've seen throughout this year, and they're escalating.
And so...
Did you count the T-shootings?
The...
I don't know why we're on YouTube, so the T-shootings?
Law enforcement source warns they fear a major attack is almost guaranteed.
I mean, I got to be careful, say this stuff.
I am not, there's a reason why this is not being put out in news stories because private behind the scenes, when they say like, hey, look, we genuinely believe the likelihood of this is one.
It will happen.
And we don't know where or how, and we're trying to stop this.
The general assessment for rifle training is one to two hours of training to learn how to make a shot at 150 yards.
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It's like, so I, and people go.
The kid knew his wearing around firearms, right?
He grew up hunting.
Yeah.
So everybody expects things to look like a movie.
The exit would have been so massive.
But then, you know, I read one report where it was like a combat, you know, ballistics guy who like pulled a bunch of actual peer-reviewed journals breaking down injuries and how these things happen.
Anyway, What you will see, the first thing I'll say is I asked Eric Prince on this show, do you think, based on all of your experience in foreign countries and with the people you've worked with, we are headed towards something like these collapse, collapse of these nations or civil war, whatever you want to call it.
And he said, the one thing I'll say is it's overnight.
One day, everything seems normal, and then you wake up and the water's off, and there's no internet anymore.
That's what he said, no internet.
And so the way I described it, based on what I've experienced, and I've not been in war zones, but I've been in conflict, crisis, revolution, civil war, is everything outside of the conflict zones feels normal.
And so the story I give is when I was in Egypt during the Second Revolution, there's a guy to McDonald's three blocks away from Tahrir Square.
While I was ordering kebab on a stick, it was lamb and it was delicious.
The TVs are talking about the collapse of their government, the conflicts, the mass protest occupation by the Muslim Brotherhood in Nasser City.
And then when we left and the government collapsed, the military went and started just shooting the Muslim Brotherhood, killing them and wiping them out.
What we are seeing now in this country, which is terrifying me, is what you would expect to see as you enter a civil war period is you turn the news on, and this is how I described it months ago, and you're watching Brett Baer and he goes, a bomb, IED, was detonated on U.S. Route 95 in, or I'm sorry, on State Road 95 in Texas, shutting down trade and transport from the eastern regions to the West.
So, well, you know, maybe not Brett Baer because he's not got someone, but the newscaster says, I guess, Mary, people are going to have that strawberry shortcake for this Christmas.
So plan accordingly.
In other news, a dog won a ribbon at a grooming contest.
I wake up and I hear about the ICE shooting, and we don't have any details and we don't know.
You wake up and you find out that the FBI had 275 plainclothes agents.
You wake up and you find out that James Comey is being indicted.
I think that is fair to say this is bleeding Kansas.
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I agree.
And I think that, you know, if you're a foreign government and you're somebody who despises the United States, you really don't need to attack us.
You can just stand by.
I mean, our country's falling apart right now.
That's why I'm saying it's going to be some type of false flag.
And the intel that we were getting was from a Border Patrol agent who spent 24 years in the agency, and he's got guys on the ground still.
And he's saying that they're warning of some type of false flag attack where they're going to attack cities, specifically five or more at the same time, that specifically only have one trauma center in that major city.
And then they're going to be actually already have undercover operatives at that trauma center.
So when everybody basically transcends on to take their people there, they're going to be carrying out another attack.
And then that attack's going to be used to drive us into a war or martial law or whatever the case may be.
This is from France 24, and it's just the first one I pulled up.
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Never mind the war.
Syrian regime courts, holidaymakers, and public relations push.
Idyllic beaches, pristine waters, and plush hotels dominate the Syrian regime's latest wave of promotional videos to reinstate the country's former roles, one of the Middle East's top tourist spots.
There's just one detail missing, Syria's civil war.
When I worked at Vice, one of the pitches that I had, and we almost did this, was I forgot the title we were going to call it.
It was we had found on Facebook that Syria was promoting nightlife partying in Damascus during the Civil War.
And this is like the peak.
This is like just after the gas attack.
And I said, why don't we go and party in Syria?
And it will be a little bit silly vice-style documentary, but the point is to explain to people that even in the worst conflict zone right now in the world with these gas attacks, look at how people live.
They're hanging out on the beach.
They're driving to the mall.
They're partying at nightclubs.
I'm sure they'll let us film all of this because they want that message to get out.
But the real message we're conveying is what war really looks like.
We mix the nightlife partying tourism commercials with the actual war zone.
Same thing with the Ukraine.
Yeah, Ukraine.
Girls were partying.
There's not many guys, but yeah, girls are still going to a club and everything.
I just wonder if they were at the ends of this at the end of this ad, if they ran like a video from Al Julani that said, I promise I won't cut your head off.
This is 2018, though, right?
Yeah.
And so when we were tracking this stuff, it was like late 2013, early 2014.
Well, I mean, the article.
Oh, okay.
No, I'm saying this was happening well before the article.
Okay.
It was like late 2013, 2014 when Damascus, the Syrian tourism agency was running commercials.
And we were watching them laughing, being like, yo, there are bombs going off.
Highways being taken over.
And the government's on the verge of collapse.
And look what they're trying to convince Americans to do.
They were telling Americans to come party in Damascus.
Yeah.
So anyway, my point is, people think life is like a movie.
And that movie Civil War was so wrong about a lot of it.
They like the country's basically, like they, I don't know, the guys strung up at the gas station.
And if your power grid shuts down too, imagine being in a high rise.
That's why I thought it would happen in the summer because you got to be thinking about how hot it would be if they just shut off power in a New York skyrise, you know, on the 10th, 20th, 30th floor.
Everybody would be forced out.
Within a day, your toilets would be smelling.
Your house would smell like poop.
It would be just disgusting.
Everybody would be forced in the streets and then it would be complete chaos, right?
Digital ideas to travel there come into this country now.
Oh, man.
They're cooked.
They're so cooked.
I mean, if you go to Australia, I've been told that.
I've seen so many videos of cops arresting people for tweets.
I've been to 20 countries in the last 40 weeks, give or take.
And I tell you what, you get to some of these countries and you're just like, wow, it really kind of radicalizes you and looks at like what we think we have here as freedom from an American standpoint.
You go to some of these other countries, you're like, wow, there's more freedom.
There's more opportunity.
I mean, you go down to El Salvador right now and you want to feel what the American dream probably felt like in the 60s, 50s, 70s, go down to El Salvador.
It's really, it'll radicalize you because every single member of their government from the president all the way down to literally the secretary of state, they wake up every day with one mission and that mission is to make your life better.
They want to make the life better of the citizens who live there, every single member of the government.
And you go from what we have here in America to this infighting and the left, first, right, and they're constantly trying to pit us against each other.
You go to El Salvador, the second get off your phone, you don't need your phone.
You don't need to be constantly on social media because you just have so much to do.
There's so much opportunity.
And it's such a really good feeling.
So I highly recommend to anybody in this audience, if you get a chance, just visit El Salvador for a week and see what it's like there.
It'll radicalize you.
All right.
Yeah.
I mean, yeah, the stuff that's going on in the U.S., I don't think that we can really debate whether or not it's, you know, civil strife right now.
And as for how much, yeah, I don't think I don't think there's a debate about it.
And how much escalation, I think it depends on, well, I think it depends on if there's actually people that want to de-escalate.
And I don't see, we say it all the time around here.
I don't see the off-ramp.
You know, I don't see how I don't see anybody saying things like, this is what we need to do to cool it down when you've got, you know, political figures on the left that are saying things, continuing to push the Charlie Kirk was a Nazi, Donald Trump's a fascist.
You've got all these people saying all of this stuff.
And even today, there's an ICE facility right now that's got protesters outside that are fighting with ICE.
If the Democrats actually wanted to see some kind of de-escalation, they should say things like, look, you need to let ICE do their job because these people are lawfully, they're enforcing the law.
If you don't like the law, you work to get the law changed, but you need to let ICE enforce the law.
Let me ask you a question, Myron, because you did federal law enforcement.
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Gavin Newsom just passed a law saying the feds have to take their masks off.
These feds that are operating in California for ICE, they live in California.
They are California residents.
Yeah.
So it depends.
They're subject to both federal jurisdiction and state jurisdiction as it pertains to their job.
So it depends.
Like if they're running a big immigration operation, they're going to probably fly agents in.
You got Border Patrol there.
You got FBI's helping out, whatever.
I mean, they can't, I don't really think they could do too much because the agents are probably just going to keep their masks on anyway.
And then, so, so the question, I, the question is, will Gavin Newsom actually enforce the law?
That's going to be tough.
Because then, then, you know, are just, do you think he would or would not?
I don't think he will.
Because if it'd be way too hard to actually pull off, if he doesn't, then the temperature stays cool a little bit.
But if Gavin Newsom actually steps forward to try and force federal agents to demask, asserting authority over federal law enforcement like this and do it.
Well, he can arrest them.
So most law enforcement overwhelmingly are conservatives.
So I don't see them arresting federal law.
You don't think a state trooper from an urban liberal area?
Sure, there might be a few.
Yeah, but the guys, you know, and obviously California is a weird place.
How many cops would quit their job over some ICE agent?
He tells state troopers there's an ICE operation happening and they're masked, go force their masks off or arrest them.
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You think state troopers are going to be like, nah, I quit.
Honest question.
I wasn't seeing the FBI when they were enforcing the raid on Mar-a-Lago and all the other things.
Nope.
How many FBI agents quit?
We had like, what, five whistleblowers, maybe 10 tops out of the entire agency?
So the state troopers likely will say, look, man, I'm just doing my job, right?
I'm just following orders.
That's what they always say.
The federal ICE officer is going to be like, you are not taking this mask off of my face, and I'm doing my job under orders of the president of the United States.
So who wins?
You know, well, technically, the supremacy clause, by the order of the law, the federal officers don't have to listen to the local officers.
That's the point.
And also remember that like a lot of these guys, you know, local law enforcement has an incredible amount of discretion.
So it would be a nightmare to actually pull off because, you know, every agency is going to kind of run it the way that they want.
Now, the state police, they're going to have less power because obviously the chain of command is, they deal with Newsom directly, like they're his protection detail.
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So, you know, I could see state troopers potentially doing it, but what if Newsom steps it up and says, I'm not going to send state police to go and make these guys take their masks off.
I'm going to use the California tax department, and I'm going to take your home from you.
And I'm going to put you and your wife and your kid out on the streets because you broke the law.
ICE agents live in California.
Of course, of course.
If they decide to break California state law, which it is law right now by wearing a mask, Gavin Newsom has a plethora of enforcement options to go against these people.
The question is, will the ICE agents tell Trump, I can't do this because the state is going to come after me?
Or will Trump say, or will they say, no, I work for the federal government.
are my instructions that we are we are looking to create a political nightmare I want to know how to say that.
Will the ICE agents say, I can't do this job and live in California at the same time, so I quit and I'll go find a job somewhere else?
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Or get transferred to another field office.
But listen, somebody who's got two kids and a wife and a house in California, they're not going to sell their house and sell all their assets, pull their kids out of school, and then move to Colorado or D.C. or something.
This was the problem we had in the American Civil War.
How does a man that has never produced an ounce of wealth that's probably worth, what, 50 to 100 million, if not more, Nancy Pelosi's worth, what, 280 million now?
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Being released the wine yesterday.
How is it possible that these people have amounted this much wealth and they treat us like we're their slaves?
They're not our public servants.
They stay in office forever.
How is nobody investigating them is what I want to know.
I think that's what the American people are the most upset with is that we have received zero accountability and these people have literally made our lives a living hell.
I was out there with the junkies like two weeks ago or two months ago.
It's disgusting, dude.
The entire city is just, every business is abandoned.
You see one business and it's normally a foreign like Chinese food or something.
The next 10 buildings are open.
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I don't even know.
And he's making, what, like $68 billion a year in our tax dollars to go to California?
And what do they do with it?
You know, we're close.
We're going out of time.
I know I talk a lot, guys, but I just want to say one more thing.
In the American, the American Revolution took 20 years.
When the Founding Fathers signed the Declaration of Independence, the war had already been on for a year.
The shot heard around the world happened at Lexington and Concord a year before the Declaration was signed.
When they signed the Declaration of Independence, they sent it off to the crown for recognition, and it took three months for the king and parliament to even review the Declaration of Independence.
It was an additional three or so months for a response to come back to the colonies.
That means the founding fathers were at war for a year.
The revolutionary period, the Boston Massacre and the Tea Party were years apart.
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And they sit down, they say, okay, let's sign this thing.
They sign it.
Okay, let's send it out.
And then they went and farmed for three months.
Every day they woke up, nothing changed.
Postal carrier came by, maybe at the end of the week, no news.
Went farming again.
Woke up, check the chickens.
We live in this time of instant data transmission.
And so everything is happening substantially much faster than it had in the past for all of these great historical moments, even with World War I and World War II.
So where we are right now, it is we just had three terror attacks in three weeks.
I didn't see conservatives dancing when they obviously had that unfortunate tragic incident happen on their side.
No, nobody did.
I didn't see what prominent influencers are.
Will Kane, Jack Pesobic tweeted Bloody September.
Will Kaine opened his show calling this Bloody September.
If we look back on history at how they condense things and say, this happened, this happened, this happened, think about what they would write about September in terms of the concentration of history compared to where we are today.
In September, Charlie Kirk, the most prominent, non-political conservative personality, technically one of the most, probably the most prominent outside of Trump, was assassinated.
A week after the assassination, a man shot up an ABC station, a local television station, because a partisan had been removed from the air.
This is how the history books would write it.
Charlie Kirk is assassinated by a partisan supporting the mainstream Democratic Liberal Party.
A week later, after a liberal partisan was removed from the airwaves for shocking comments about the assassin blaming the other side for the killing, a man shot up a local television station and several more threats were made.
A week after that, a man got on a roof and fired onto an ICE facility with the intention, according to the evidence, to strike terror into the hearts of ICE agents so that they would, I'm paraphrasing, always fear that a sniper could be on any roof or around any corner.
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This all happened in the span of a couple of weeks.
This all occurred at the same time that the state and the federal government were fighting in court over who had control of the National Guard of California.
That fight has not yet been resolved.
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Where we go from here has not yet been written.
We don't know.
But if you try to imagine everything from the highest level of politics, again, the most important in my opinion being that Trump and Gavin Newsom are arguing in court over who gets to control the National Guard.
That's where it gets crazy.
These National Guard men and women that Trump is fighting for authority over, which he currently has, live in California.
Will they leave their homes behind, their families behind?
Will they pull their children out of school?
If Gavin Newson says, I don't care what Trump's rigged courts say, we know his courts are rigged.
Democrats have made that argument already.
So that's my final thought.
If you guys want to, you know, give some final thoughts before we wrap up here.
We're a little over time, but it's okay.
And then shout out whatever.
Yeah, no, I just wanted to say, you know, I don't think that we have any idea, and I just really want to stay focused on the fact that we have Turning Point, who has video footage of exactly what happened.
We also have the FBI, who has video footage and surveillance footage from the CCTV videos.
If they want to be the most transparent and honest administration, then they need to release that to the public so that they can prove the theories that they've created and put out there.
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And if they don't, well, then I think that there's a lot more to this story.
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