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Sept. 24, 2025 - The Culture War - Tim Pool
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Terror Attack On ICE Has MAGA DEMAND Trump ARREST Leftist Terrorists ft. Benny Johnson

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benny johnson
The only solution is that the left must be ruthlessly cracked down upon.
There must be societal pressure, both culturally and through uh judicial means and through law enforcement means, but from the whole of government approach.
I left wing violence.
It must be serious.
It must be the only talking point is the single most existential threat our country faces right now.
We cannot go on like this with every single day there being a new spate of left-wing violence and more blood flowing through the streets.
tim pool
Left wing terrorism is on the rise.
The Atlantic is writing about it.
This morning, an anti-ICE terror attack again.
We've had three terror attacks in just the past couple of weeks.
I am at my wit's end.
I have dealt with death threats to me and my family, as well as many of my friends I see online.
And this is not something that I think we can tolerate in this country.
I'm gonna be joined by Benny Johnson.
So let me see if I can uh uh pull him in now.
And uh let's see if we got the uh the audio working properly, it appears to be.
And uh I think we're we're loading up.
There is Benny Benny.
Can you hear me?
benny johnson
Yo, what up, dude?
tim pool
Benny Johnson, man.
I am freaked out.
I am freaked out.
You know, I saw the the reporting of the sniper attack this morning, but we didn't exactly know what was happening.
Just coming off of the Jimmy Kimmel once again a fuses to apologize for the escalation of rhetoric.
We are now dealing with what, three terror attacks in two weeks.
One, one of the most gruesome we've seen in our lifetime, the assassination of Charlie Kirk.
I'm freaking out.
I'm I'm just what what is your take on all this?
benny johnson
So three terrorist attacks with uh a lot in common.
And I think it's really important when somebody shows you who they are, you have to believe them.
If you don't believe them, if they're telling you who they are, if the left is grabbing us by the scruff of the neck and looking at us in the face with their bloodshot eyes, with their yellow teeth frothing at the mouth, saying we are psychotic, murderous radicals.
We are a terrorist element, and we are willing to kill because we have mossed political power.
We have lost our minds, and now we are a militant wing that is willing to use power to kill our power to kill.
And that is gonna be the last resort for our political movement.
That is, by the way, what all data shows, that is what all available data shows from Ugov, a specific Ugov poll that was just released, says that 60% of leftists under the age of 40 believe that a political violence is appropriate in some circumstances.
60%.
I mean, you're talking about uh parts of the, you're talking about vast swaths of leftists, millions of them that want this.
Now, in the past month, we I actually just ran the numbers.
It was it's it's been a month to the day since a transgender left-wing radical inscribed leftist iconography on his tactical gear, anti-Christian, anti-conservative, anti-Trump iconography, and then went and shot up a Catholic school.
tim pool
Yep.
benny johnson
Killing a couple kids, wounding 17.
Fast forward two weeks, Tim.
A far left-wing radical with a transgender furry boyfriend, writes left-wing iconography on his bullets, and then goes and kills Charlie Kirk, murders him in an on-air execution in Utah.
Fast forward two weeks.
Today, a left-wing radical has inscribed left-wing iconography.
This man is a communist, by the way, Jeremy Johns is his name.
He's a according to his social media, he is a he's a Marxist.
He's caught, he has uh communist iconography on a social media, he has anti-scalled anti-ICE messaging on his bullet casings, and then he committed murder, what he hoped to be mass murder at an ICE facility in Dallas.
Now they are telling us who they are.
They're telling us through polling.
They're telling us through action.
They are saying that the biggest problem, the scariest domestic terrorist threat that we have seen in our lifetime in this country, is left-wing militant terrorism.
They are screaming it from the rooftops.
It is time for Republicans to wake up.
And to recognize this threat.
tim pool
I think what's really scary about it is it's much more aligned with the mainstream Democratic Party than anybody was willing to admit.
I I just made this point a moment ago.
When we get these reports where it says, oh, the the right is more dangerous and more uh the extremist attacks are coming from the right.
It is not meaningful to me in any way or any in political debate when you argue a white supremacist committed some act of violence.
We all agree that's bad.
The Republicans all condemn it.
Charlie Kirk condemned white supremacy and actually kicked white supremacists out of his events.
So there's there's no overlap there.
However, the ideology that killed Charlie Kirk, AOC espoused from the House floor.
So instead of denouncing the lies and saying these people who believed false things about Charlie and were motivated to kill him, AOC goes on the House floor and set and doubles down on all of it.
The TV producers, the shows, they double down.
And then you get the Jimmy Kimmel scenario.
Now I think it's important to point out the lower end of the scale to the higher end.
You've pointed out Benny, all the high-end scale stuff, these inscript these iconography, these shootings.
What about the Democrat who shot up an ABC affiliate just Friday because Jimmy Kimmel was suspended over offensive comments where he lied about this shooter?
What about Jimmy Kimmel today, the report coming out, or should I say last night, he still refused to apologize and doubled down saying Trump is just trying to get me fired because he can't take a joke.
This is the motivating ideology behind these attacks.
It is mainstream.
It's on MSNBC, it's on ABC.
And I gotta be honest, it's not an easy thing to deal with.
benny johnson
Well, Tim, the moment I saw that Jimmy Kimmel comment, I said, on behalf of Turning Point, which I worked closely closely with, and we're gonna be doing a lot of work on campuses.
We go and talk to turning point chapters and so on.
I know that you give speeches as well, college kids, and you speak at turning point events uh also.
The kids love you.
On behalf of these students and activists, on behalf of my fellow compatriots in the America First Movement, uh, let me say this.
What Jimmy Kimmel said, of course, is of course factually wrong and is a despicable thing to say about somebody who was murdered by the left to say he was murdered by the right by his own movement.
Charlie Kirk, of course, the figurehead of the MAGA movement.
And so to say he was murdered by MAGA was to say he deserved it.
So that is despicable in and of itself.
It should have led to the immediate cancellation of this show.
Um, and then who knows, right?
Defamation lawsuit by the Kirk family, whatever.
That's bad enough.
But what it says really, and what we were able to elucidate and what we've been constantly hitting the bricks to talk about, is that it signals that you should do more.
By taking the clear left-wing violence and turning it into right-wing violence, it's projecting to leftists that you should go do more of this and we'll defend you.
I, Jimmy Kimmel, will use my taxpayer-funded federal FCC licensure to whitewash leftist violence and to make sure that the right is blamed for it.
And so if you go and do more of that, uh count on me defending you.
That's what it signals to these mentally ill, militant, suicidal sociopaths on the left.
And I've been warning about this.
I was beating my bri my knuckles bloody, Tim, about this.
And then I went to Turning Point.
I spent the last week at Turning Point.
And I spoke with Turning Point's COO.
I spoke with Charlie Kirk's executive producer.
I they both posted publicly, what Jimmy Kimmel's comments really do is put a target on the back of MAGA and honor activists.
That's the true despicable nature of this.
It's a continuation of not just the rhetoric, but the all the allowance and the approval of left-wing violence by not covering it and not disavowing it.
tim pool
I think the uh the scary reality is that we did not take enough action against the left, liberals.
I don't even want to say the left, it's just this is mainstream over the celebration of the assassination of Brian Thompson.
I'm not gonna sit here and defend insurance companies, but we're looking at a was it 10 months after the assassination of this guy, the left celebrated the assassin, they sold merch with his name, they made sainthood candles of him, and Charlie Kirk is assassinated.
I was talking to uh just one last point.
I was talking to Will Chamberlain yesterday, and he said, if we do not suspend and remove these people celebrating assassinations, it sends a message to these liberals that if you assassinate someone, you will be celebrated and rewarded.
benny johnson
Yep.
Yeah.
So uh at the height of the anti-Elon protests, right?
Totally asserturf protests in Washington, DC.
I went and we were walking the streets and stall on camera, and I was walking the street.
We just filmed something at the EPA, and there happened to be a protest outside.
I said, let's go talk to them.
Let's just go see what they're up to.
And the number of people that told me that they wanted to kill Elon Musk, and they said it to my cameras.
And the number of Luigi hats.
Yo, Tim, there was like a Luigi, like uh Mario Luigi, right?
They were wearing Luigi hats.
And I was like, this is uh out of control.
It's like a maybe in February.
It's like this is this is obscene.
They are creating, they are venerating this assassin.
Yeah, they just went and like killed this, this, this like dad, this father, you know, this guy, whatever, whatever.
Like, I don't care what he does.
I I don't care.
I don't care what Brian Thompson did.
I don't care what evil he was accused of.
It doesn't, it is irrelevant.
You went and like committed an execution on the streets of New York.
And just months later, he was being venerated by the left, and they were wearing Luigi hats.
Exactly as you still do.
tim pool
They still do.
benny johnson
It's a real it, I mean, it is truly a it is like a beyond a political problem.
It's like a spiritual problem.
It is people that uh see death and destruction as a tool, and they are willing to uh kill because they see it as a means to an end.
And you can't share a country with people like that, Tim.
You can't unite with people like that.
You can't unite or with people who want to kill you, and you can't unite over a lie.
I just want to that is why I I must call in conclusion here.
I must call.
There has to be a reckoning.
There has to be left-wing commentators must come out.
They they have to.
They have to come out.
You have to watch now.
There has to be pressure for left-wing commentators come out to disavow this, to talk about their own wreck uh uh reckless rhetoric, uh, to to do the opposite of what Jimmy Kimmel did last night.
There, there this has to, because what they are doing is incitement.
It is the definitionally incitement.
tim pool
I I want to just offer up to the middle of the road people, if they even exist at this point.
Um, I'll just preface this by saying I've received messages from many, I I would just say prominent individuals in various industries that are terrified over the killing of Charlie Kirk.
And I'm surprised to find some of these guys are like default libs I describe them as.
I think this is really terrified people, but I offer up to these individuals two worlds you can choose to live in.
When George Floyd dies, and no one knew who he was, he was not a prominent individual.
We got, according to reports, 13,000 seven, uh 13,609 violent incidents, which resulted in around 30 plus deaths and several billion dollars in damage.
When Charlie Kirk was assassinated intentionally over his views, conservatives prayed for one day at a big event, a big festival, and carried on.
If you are one of these middle of the road guys, ladies who says, I don't care about politics, pick which country you want to live in.
benny johnson
Yep.
tim pool
Where when the conservatives face a death, an intentional murder, you won't even notice.
You'll go about your business eating at subway and enjoying a nice bag of chips and a flatbread, and no one will bother you.
But if some random person, the left wants to venerate, dies, they will burn down your city.
We can't live like this.
And the problem is that on the left, this is the mainstream practice.
On the right, the mainstream practice is pray.
benny johnson
Bro, in the weeks, it's been like uh well, I I'd have lost, I've lost count, but let's just say roughly two weeks since Charlie was murdered.
tim pool
Two weeks to two weeks of the day, yeah.
benny johnson
Since Charlie was murdered.
Okay, so two weeks today.
Zero incidents of right-wing violence.
I was in a stadium, dude, with a hundred thousand people there, physically, it's like a hundred thousand people physically there.
Turning point says that the total number of people that showed up are were close to a quarter of a million people, 250,000 in the greater overall area, according to geo tracking.
Not one broken window.
Not even littering.
No one jaywalked.
Nobody spit gum on the sidewalk.
tim pool
No one jaywalked.
benny johnson
Everything was immaculate.
Of course, there were no fists thrown, there were no cops assaulted, there were no cars burned, there were no buildings desecrated.
Nobody did anything wrong.
In fact, the only fear of any law enforcement official that were there, and I talked to a lot of them, was of course that left-wing agitators would get in and try to commit a terrorist attack.
tim pool
Yep.
benny johnson
They didn't even they they the law enforcement just naturally didn't even look To the right for any type of violence at that event.
Now, that's how the rights responded.
The left, let's go ahead and look at the left.
Immediately after Charlie Kirk was murdered, a left-wing pederist named George Zinn put his arms up and said, I'm the shooter to allow the shooter to get away.
tim pool
Yep.
benny johnson
That's that's a matter of fact.
Now he had a bunch of CP on his porn, uh, sorry, sorry, on his phone.
And and he's like a degenerate sicko, obviously.
They've they've now charged him with a bunch of different felonies for that.
But this is the man of the left that showed up to try and help Kirk's shooter.
Then the in the hours after that.
Two men, two Pakistanis who came here and immigrated here and it became naturalized citizens, uh, placed a bomb on a uh Fox News local affiliate van.
And they tried to light it.
They tried to blow up the Fox News van.
Uh hundreds uh hundreds of thousands of leftists celebrated Charlie's Kirk's murders.
Many of them were fired.
Some of them were suspended from their shows on ABC.
58 Democrats voted against against disavowing violence on the House floor.
Use it as an opportunity to lie about Charlie Kirk.
unidentified
The uh they treated no one AOC as like a mile long.
tim pool
Yeah.
benny johnson
And then dozens of leftists have been charged with various felonies for assault or desecration at Charlie Kirk memorials.
So Republicans can't even mourn in peace without a leftist attacking them.
And this is again, when somebody shows you who they are, you gotta believe them.
Like it's got it's on us actually now.
The left is showing us who they are.
tim pool
What really terrifies me the most is that I I genuinely thought this Charlie Kirk assassination would be a wake-up call, that the system would be shocked so hard by such a dramatic escalation that your default libs would say, hey guys, hold on there a minute.
And while I will say there are many that uh I do know that have reached out to me, and this has made them realize what terrifies me the most is when I went on my Facebook, which I don't really use anymore, but I've got a lot of friends going back decades.
They're all saying Charlie deserved it.
And when I message them saying, first and foremost, we shouldn't we need to bring the temperature down.
Like, guys, come on.
No one deserves this.
We're not going that direction.
They ignore me.
People I I'm not even people that I've known for for decades, for years, are posting videos saying that Charlie deserved it because he was a bigot.
And I cannot believe the people I have seen who are I'm I'm talking about people who are not in politics.
I'm talking about people who just live in the city and are default run of the mill libs, but they really don't pay attention.
And they're posting and reposting videos saying that Charlie deserved it, or they are lying about what Charlie said to justify this.
benny johnson
Yes.
tim pool
That has me terrified because I like you mentioned, you can't share a country with these people.
Then I don't know where we go.
benny johnson
Well, now's the time for Tim Poole to do the meme and say civil war.
tim pool
Well, you know, it's gonna be everyone else saying it but me.
benny johnson
We allowed it, like can we hit the button?
Can we hit the Tim Pool civil war button?
Like the easy button at Staples.
You know, Civil War.
I'm gonna make one of those, Tim.
I'm gonna make a fortune selling Tim Pool civil war.
tim pool
It's just like it's a it's a beanie button when you press it, it's me saying civil war.
Well, well, let me let me put it like this.
I have been in in uh November.
benny johnson
I'm not trying to make fun of this.
Um like, no, it's gallows humor.
You know, sometimes you just levity is good.
Laugh or cry.
No, I mean, like, you gotta declare a national emergency, Tim.
I'm calling on the Trump administration, of whom I sat next to like uh the entire cabinet at Charlie Kirk's memorial service.
I'm calling on all them, as I did in my speech, to do what is biblically necessary and constituted in a moral society, which is for the government, according to Romans 13, that is properly instituted by God to wield the sword and not wield it in vain, to wield the sword for the terror of evil men.
It is the only solution.
The only solution is that the left must be ruthlessly cracked down upon.
There must be societal pressure, both culturally and through uh judicial means and through law enforcement means, but from the whole of government approach, I left-wing violence.
It must be serious, it must be the only talking point is the single most existential threat our country faces right now.
We cannot go on like this with every single day there being a new spate of left-wing violence and more blood flowing through the streets.
tim pool
And and but you know what the the problem is.
Look, Jimmy Kimmel couldn't say the words I'm sorry.
And I don't understand why.
Well, actually, to be fair, I do.
Did you see the reporting that his staff threatened to walk out and quit the show if he said he apologizes?
benny johnson
Well, there you go.
There's your there's your terror.
There's there's ISIS, right?
There's your terror threatening.
Yeah.
tim pool
You can't just say, I'm sorry, I was wrong about that.
That would that was embarrassing.
benny johnson
Bro, if he was sorry, you're in this business, I'm in this business.
unidentified
Okay.
benny johnson
We're both in broadcast business.
You get it a lot more views than Jimmy Kimmel, so do I. So that's funny.
Let's let's let's let's uh you know, yeah.
A photo, Tim, a photo of your beanie uh like posted on Snapchat would do more views than Jimmy Kimmel's show.
Jimmy Kimmel's show, uh Jimmy Kimmel's show did less views than Chris Christie's OnlyFans.
A live stream of Joe Biden sleeping at the beach on Blue Sky would do more views than Jimmy Kimmel's show.
tim pool
Yeah.
benny johnson
So you and I both know this business.
And we know it probably better than Jimmy Kimmel.
But let's just like be perfectly honest.
If Jimmy Kimmel wanted to apologize, as I've had to apologize for things, like I got things wrong, I've gotten facts wrong, I've gotten things wrong in the show, uh, reported things right because it was breaking news environment, didn't turn out to be true or turned out to be like, you know, something different.
You immediately you apologize.
And I have no problem doing that.
I I you know, I often tell like my audience like look, we're gonna be, we're gonna try to be first, we're gonna be fast, and we're gonna be as accurate as we possibly can.
We will absolutely admit our mistakes.
I do not claim to be some type of like perfect vessel.
Okay, we do make mistakes.
If Jimmy Kimmel was sorry, he would have come out the night afterwards and apologized.
And Disney would have said, Great.
Because Disney asked him, what are you gonna do?
If he was actually sorry, Tim, he would have just done it the next day.
Yo, uh, my bad, man.
Like that joke did not land.
Like, my bad, I'm sorry to the Kirk family.
Yo, not good.
That's what he should have said.
But he wasn't sorry.
In fact, he went to Disney and said, I'm not gonna apologize, I'm gonna triple down against MAGA.
That's what Disney said, I need to done that he did.
tim pool
You know, it's exactly what he did.
benny johnson
Now he's not he's not apologizing to this day.
So he's not actually sorry, Tim.
tim pool
So uh I I'll give you, I'll give you my assessment.
And uh, this is what I've been saying since the story broke.
The the principal reason for the cancellation, according to the Wall Street Journal and the Hollywood reporter, was as you mentioned, Jimmy Kimmel was not planning on apologizing or backing down.
And advertisers and affiliates had expressed concern over the over the comments, with Sinclair explicitly stating the temperature that the the this the heat.
And Wall Street Journal says that Disney was concerned for the safety of their staff following threats they'd received.
Well, the FCC certainly played some degree of a role.
It seems that the real issue was that Jimmy Kimmel had shocked advertisers in the audience.
Now, guess what?
Last night, I went on all of my streaming services, and I didn't know this.
It's not broadcast rights, it's all rights.
So Sinclair actually owns the streaming rights to ABC content.
I in the DC area cannot watch Jimmy Kimmel live right now.
So I had to wait for someone in some other area to share it with me so I could watch it.
Now my question is if the affiliates are still mad, if the advertisers are still mad, they have still printed his show.
What is the real reason ABC brought Jimmy Kimmel back where he did not apologize and did in fact triple down?
There's only one thing I see, and yet that is a terror attack on the ABC station in Sacramento and several local ABC affiliates receiving terror threats.
That was the only change.
I genuinely believe ABC, when they were looking at Christian MAGA guys are gonna pray and they don't riot.
I don't fear them.
The far left just shot liberals, not even the far left, just shot up an affiliate and threatened more.
They know who they actually fear.
We cannot tolerate terrorism dictating our politics.
benny johnson
You know, that's isn't that a wild thing?
Like we are the aggrieved party.
We lost a generational leader.
I know you know Charlie.
tim pool
Of course.
benny johnson
Uh you had a pet you had a mural of Charlie in your uh studio.
It was like really cool.
You've hosted some Charlie debates on your show.
And um, you know, you and Charlie were friends.
tim pool
I texted him a week before this, bro.
It's it's I don't I don't act like we're best friends or drinking buddies.
I always say that, but he was a friend of mine.
benny johnson
Oh, he didn't drink, so he's no good as a drinking buddy, anyhow.
tim pool
Right.
benny johnson
Uh Yeah, unless you had green tea.
Hey, man.
If you like green tea, he will be your drinking buddy.
unidentified
Yeah.
benny johnson
But what I'm uh establishing here is that what happened with Charlie and what's happening now with Jimmy Kimmel is a clear and obvious targeting of people in MAGA, people in America first, by the corporate media.
They did it last night.
Now, let me explain.
Tim Walls, big time governor, just ran for vice president.
Uh Gavin Usom, gonna run for president 2028.
We're out over the last 24 hours calling ICE the Gestapo.
They were calling ICE tyrannical uh dict dictator and authoritarian agencies.
This was just in the past 24 hours.
They haven't toned down the temperature at all.
They've in fact used this opportunity to ratchet up the temperature.
tim pool
Yeah.
benny johnson
And now we have an ice shooting and killing.
There are a bunch of people in critical condition.
I'm I think we know of one death.
Is that correct?
And then a bunch of people in critical condition.
tim pool
Yep.
benny johnson
You know, at what point do you need to like actually talk about incitement?
Because they know what they're doing.
Like they they they know what they're doing with their side.
To your point, and this is the final point I'll make to your point about like the aggrieved parties.
Charlie Kirk would have been president.
He was on our side.
He was our boy.
He was a generational leader.
He was the voice of MAGA.
He had the most followers of anybody in his demographic.
Okay.
And you and I both play in this world, and Charlie was just doing just incredible work.
tim pool
Amazing.
benny johnson
Charlie Kirk, Charlie Kirk's death was we are the victims.
We are the aggrieved party.
And we have not committed violence.
In the wake of Charlie Kirk's death by a leftist, it's the left that's committed all the violence.
Nobody was scared about somebody out of right winger shooting up an ABC station because we don't do that, Tim.
We don't do that shit, Tim.
Like a right winger doesn't go and shoot up ABC because Jimmy Kimmel said something like obscene and defamatory and disgusting about Charlie.
Even though the right is the aggrieved party in the situation.
We are the victim of that.
unidentified
Right?
benny johnson
Let me it is the left that has decided to use this as an opportunity for further violence.
tim pool
I want to ask you, uh Benny.
You saw what Keith Tholberman said yesterday about Scott Jennings.
benny johnson
Yeah.
tim pool
Your next mother effer.
And he tried playing it off like, no, no, I meant his career.
And my question was, oh, why did a conservative lose their job in the past two weeks?
How would he be next if there's not a first?
No, it's it's we know what he meant.
And I'll tell you, because I I want to ask you about this.
Maybe you don't want to answer.
The amount of death threats I've received uh inhibited my ability to travel to Arizona because our security team was too concerned they would not be able to secure me and my wife.
And so I decided such a trip probably was just too dangerous to make.
Uh it was a coin toss I didn't want to make.
And I know a lot of people went and it was a very safe and went off without a hitch, but the threats we've got and the swattings we've received, and there are some other security instances I don't talk about that have occurred here recently because it would we I don't want to expose how these are are affecting us as other people may be emboldened by it.
But you're next.
I I know you posted that video recently of the fire at your own home, and the corporate press tried lying, saying it never happened, but I'm curious what you've been experiencing following this.
benny johnson
Oh, I mean, like you can just go ahead and check blue sky, right?
It's all public, it's all public, and the there needs to be a law enforcement and judicial example set here.
tim pool
I agree.
benny johnson
And it's time for Republicans to understand what time it is.
There we won't have a party left.
And you know, you know, it's like uh listen, I'm a Christian, so God is the author of life and death.
I'm not gonna like I'm not gonna live in fear.
I'm not gonna hide under a rock, right?
I'm just like I'm gonna live go live in a cave.
Um, I'm not gonna be dumb though.
We're gonna be smart and we're gonna like uh we're we're gonna I mean it's important to obviously carry on the work uh uh in our own small and uh in case uh in our own small ways of what Charlie was doing.
Um to let him down in that scenario or to be scared when he was never scared, uh, I think would be uh an insult to his memory.
However, uh the answer to your question is that what happens when they're when the the world of the left wing, because yeah, I gotta understand they don't live in our world.
They live in a totally and complete alternate reality where Charlie Kirk's killer was a MAGA assassin.
That's where they live.
unidentified
They they they refuse to accept you go for polling shows it.
benny johnson
Yeah, they refuse to accept reality.
They are not living in our world.
And so how like what must be done?
They must be brought to heel.
You have to then force reality upon them.
And that's something that's going to need to happen from a judicial and legal perspective.
tim pool
Yep.
benny johnson
Never once have I ever called for violence.
I never will.
You can't find it.
I I broadcast there's a hundred thousand hours of me broadcasting live.
Not once, not one single time have I ever, ever even remotely touched that line.
But there are ways there, there is a law and there is laws on the books.
You are not allowed to do death threats.
You are not allowed to call for people's killings.
There has to be entire departments created in order to prevent this from happening.
And I don't want it to have it on the right either.
I death threats against public officials or wrong, right?
Against anybody.
Um, but it's happening, it's coming from the left, right?
So it's it's coming from the left.
It needs to be, it's even to be dealt with as this severe national security threat that it is.
tim pool
I think Keith Oberman should be charged.
And my my argument is look, they show up to his house in the afternoon, they don't cuff him, they say it's just we're going to the station to be processed.
You're gonna get a light charge, which is he takes a plea bargain, gets 20 hours of community service and a don't do it again.
And the reason I say that for for Keith Oberman is because people like him are being swept up in the tsunami of all of this insanity.
Now, for the more serious terroristic threats, by all means, they should get prison time.
But I think that if we start with a light approach and say, Keith, you sent a death threat, okay?
You got you gotta go to court for this.
You're gonna be arrested.
That message to all of these default libs is stop making threats, just stop.
And if it escalates from there, then we lock them up for a longer amount of time.
benny johnson
But they live in this alternate reality where like Jimmy Kimmel's out, he doesn't have to apologize.
tim pool
Right.
benny johnson
Jimmy Kimmel called Charlie Kirk's killer MAGA and he got away with it.
And he's getting, you know, he's getting away with it.
tim pool
We'll see.
benny johnson
And it's like, and he doesn't have he didn't have to, he didn't correct the record, Tim.
He didn't do what I would do, or what you would do.
I've seen you do this like dozens of times.
Hey, yo, we like the the guy we said he had a red shirt on, turns out he had a blue shirt on.
We're correcting the record, good.
Okay.
But I don't like he didn't correct the record.
tim pool
Did you know, uh, Benny that the reason Sinclair polled the Charlie Kirk memorial was because of leftist terror threats on their on their stations?
benny johnson
Isn't that amazing?
And we are the aggrieved party, right?
Like it's like it's like they're using this as a tool.
Now they see it as a tool.
tim pool
We wanted a memorial for a man who was murdered, and Sinclair pulled it.
This is New York Post reporting because they're their affiliate stations received death threats.
A memorial for a man who was murdered could not be a.
I don't know how we live this way, man.
Uh some it's it's it's gotta stop.
It's gotta stop.
benny johnson
It's broken society.
Uh society, you know, it's like it really is interesting, like clairvoyant.
Who was it that posted it?
Maybe it was Matt Walsh, but he posted early in the summer.
He's like, listen, they've lost.
He's talking about the trans movement, but but he was, I think the left writ large.
You know, they they've they've they've been decimated in cultural power, in institutional power, in regulatory power that they love so very much.
And cultural power is propped up by institutional power, which is propped up by regulatory power, right?
So if they lose all of them, then they literally literally paper tiger, they have nothing, you know, they have nothing.
It's just it's bluster.
And that's what Jimmy Kimmel, that's why they were so horrified of Jimmy Kimmel, because what happens is we reached deep behind enemy lines into the dark, diseased church of the temple of Hollywood, and we were able to like you know punish a high priest, you know, like there should be untouchable.
And we were able to like exercise uh right righteous indignation against somebody who was like lying in in in an air in a in a area that they we should never be able to touch them, right?
And that's because they've lost all these, all these layers of power, cultural, institutional, and regulatory.
tim pool
So they shot up an ABC station.
benny johnson
That's right.
And so, like when you when you have no more power, then what is the final what when you've lost the argument?
What's the final then uh approach?
Violence.
That's it.
You're right, cut out their tongue.
So that's what that's where they are.
tim pool
Uh yeah.
benny johnson
Republicans wake up.
tim pool
I hope you stay safe out there.
I hope you take this as seriously as you know, we are, because I know they're come they they've been targeting you.
The You know, I don't I don't like to name other commentators who are getting this stuff because I don't want to draw attention, but I know, you know, we've already discussed it.
But there's their lists out there that they are posting like crazy.
So stay safe, man.
Where can people find you?
benny johnson
Oh, at Benning Johnson on just about everything, except for Blue Sky.
tim pool
Except for Blue Smash.
benny johnson
I should probably start one though, shouldn't I?
tim pool
I tried.
They wouldn't let me.
unidentified
Yeah.
Okay.
benny johnson
Well, we'll post these, we'll post these clips, Tim, and uh sure it'll go great.
tim pool
Brother, thanks for for hanging out.
I appreciate your time.
And uh, we'll see you next time.
benny johnson
Thanks, man.
Five for Charlie.
tim pool
Have a good one, brother.
That, of course, was the one and only Benny Johnson.
Shout out for uh joining the show.
Really do appreciate it.
Guys, um, um last night, I want to get you guys geared up to go join our friend Russell Brand, who's going live.
I don't want to, I don't want to, you know, get in the way or anything like that.
It's this is this is a crazy moment in our history uh right now.
Last night I was asked by our members on the Timcast Discord while we were live about, you know, sometimes I discuss how long I can do this for, especially with the escalation.
I don't know that I received more threats than anybody else, but I certainly think based on the evidence that may be the case.
Uh in what we were swatted 15 times in one year with the bomb squad here.
We have repeated and consistent threats.
Maybe everyone else just keeps that uh uh quiet.
Some people said, Tim, don't talk about the swattings.
The problem was it happened live on the show with the police entering the room.
And in some of them, when it wasn't as overt, I wanted to make sure people knew because I said it needs to be known that this is happening to us.
Now, maybe, maybe that fan the flames, perhaps.
But the threats that I've received in the past couple of weeks were so serious that uh, and the and the security instances that that have occurred uh in and around the work we do.
My security team's assessment was it probably was not wise to travel at the moment.
We needed to wait.
And so I I think that was correct, and it pains me because I really wish I could have been there at the memorial.
Waking up today and hearing the news, it's it's what I feared.
That there is this persistent news cycle of death and violence that is escalating.
These attacks are not deterring the left.
They are a green light.
This is what I said about the killing of Charlie Kirk that I feared.
Not that they would be shocked and scared by it, but that they would say, it's now.
There are many on the left that want to be violent and terroristic.
We've already seen it throughout the years with Antifa, with these uh far-left groups with rifles shooting people, Aaron Danielson is an example.
The lesser-known incidents where roving bands of armed leftists were stopping vehicles in the Pacific Northwest.
You remember that one?
How about seven or so years ago when these Antifa groups instructed people to sabotage railroad tracks?
I kid you not, take a look.
It was a group called It's Going Down.
And they taught people how to destroy railroad tracks to kill people.
I wake up and I see these stories, and I'm like, this is what I feared.
As you enter a period of civil war, what will you see?
Every day you turn on the news, it will be another story about a politically motivated assassination, killing, bombing, threats, or otherwise.
It is preliminary.
But after the killing of Charlie Kirk, it has been sustained.
It has been sustained.
The shooting on the ABC facility a week later.
Now the shooting on the ICE facility a week after that.
It is becoming persistent, and that terrifies me.
I hope the reaction from the Trump administration will be swift and brutal and put a stop to this, but I don't know that it can.
Because every time law enforcement reacts, the left escalates.
What you need is an overwhelming force to stop them.
Keith Oberman threatening to kill Scott Jennings.
It's not an exaggeration.
He apologized, claimed it wasn't his intent.
Spare me.
We know what you are next means.
Charlie Kirk was just killed.
The people that are saying you're next to me were saying it long before Jimmy Kimmel got suspended for a few days.
No one thinks that means your career is next.
And so the question is, as I mentioned, people on the Discord, please join us.
I know it is silly because there's a there's a business element to everything we do.
Community is important.
Timcast.com, Discord server, click join us.
The question was brought up of how long can I do this for with the threats, with the death threats and the security that we have to have.
I do it as long as I can.
I have no intention of stopping anytime soon.
But if the violence escalates to an extreme degree, it may inhibit my abilities to do so.
And it may change the game.
We don't know where we're headed.
I beg and I pray that what we have is a return to sanity.
Maybe the amount of terror attacks we see will force liberal media to say, okay, okay, we have to stop this.
Jimmy, just say I'm sorry.
It's not, it's not a pride or ego thing.
I genuinely mean this.
I said last night on Timcast IRL, if Jimmy Kimmel comes out and says, genuinely, I mean it, I am sorry, guys.
I don't want you to be upset or feel this way.
It was never my intention.
I said, that really will go far, and I would accept it.
What was my prediction?
He would do everything but apologize.
He'd say, here was my intent, however, but and that's what he did.
He said, Trump wants to be fired because he can't take a joke.
If Jimmy Kimmel came out and he said, to those.
He said, it was never my intention to downplay the murder of a young man he choked up.
And to those who feel that way, I really thought he was going to go, I am sorry.
He didn't.
He said, I understand why you're mad, because if it was reversed, I'd be mad too.
He just couldn't do it.
And there's a reason why.
According to the reporting from Yahoo Entertainment and Daily Mail, his staffers said they would quit if he said, I'm sorry.
There is no way to cool things down if that's the case.
So Benny's right.
We are the aggrieved.
Charlie was murdered.
We have nothing to apologize for right now.
But they won't stop.
They won't stop.
AOC went on the house floor and insulted and smeared a man who had just been murdered.
My God, they won't stop.
Why?
Holy crap.
So I hope you're prepared for the worst, but you hope for the best.
Guys, Russell Brand is live.
I've gone long.
I appreciate it.
Thank you all so much for hanging out.
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