Death Threats Against Conservatives SKYROCKET After Charlie Kirk Assassination ft. Steven Crowder
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People are talking about taking that place and picking up the microphone.
I get it.
It's very touching.
People need to know that there are still crosshairs on that microphone.
And people need to take it seriously.
So when people say that I'm being irresponsible, I am doing the most responsible thing I can think to do in trying to write maybe some some errors, mistakes on my part.
I told people it was dangerous.
I didn't tell them the entire extent.
And I hope people know and take it seriously.
And the only thing that's going to curb it is for the left to be afraid to even think of it.
Since the assassination of Charlie Kirk, death threats have been skyrocketing across the board on every social media platform.
You are seeing lists of names be produced, and they are engaging in terroristic threats.
It is borderline overt.
I say borderline, because what I call tweedledee tweedledum threats, where one person says, I think more conservatives should die.
Someone then says, here's a list of the people that should die.
And none of them is creating the imminent threat, but together it forms an imminent threat.
So the question now is how do we deal with this?
And no, it's not just fringe far-leftists.
Take a look at this from the post-millennial.
Local Democratic Party in Washington deletes post mocking assassination of Charlie Kirk.
It is overt, it is obvious, it is happening across the board.
It's affecting everybody.
So to get a better sense of what's going on, we are being joined by the man himself, Steven Crowder, to give us an understanding of what his perspective is, what's been happening to him.
I've obviously talked a lot about what we are going through here.
Um, anytime we show up, any time, you know, when I've talked about this, and and Charlie said it as an inspiration, he took it to a different level, you know, changed my mind was an idea to challenge the left in 2016 on the idea of civil dialogue.
Like we'll just we'll we'll do it.
It won't be cable news, it won't be edited.
And it became increasingly violent.
Um, I mean, I've had, so to give you an idea, and the left always says, Oh, you're fine, you're okay.
I I had a I had a trans, and if this is on YouTube, I had a trans individual, he scream at me and then steal a homeless man's lunchbox pencil case, whip it at me from a blind spot.
I've had someone try to bash me over the head with a rock.
I've had uh attempts with concrete milkshakes, slash tires, calls to firebomb the car, um, attempts on my life, actually, a terrorist, and I haven't talked about this until now, and you know this because the real threats, you don't want copycats.
Uh terrorists from Yemen by way of Sweden, posting the address, my family's work address, the route two, so between the addresses.
And uh I can only my life is likely saved because a fan saw it posted on YouTube in a comment and cross-referenced the zip code with the East Grand Rapids PD, and they showed up at my house.
This has been going on for a very long time.
When I performed, when I did what uh uh change my mind at SMU, the uh man in charge of the police there asked my my father.
He said, Why does he need this kind of security?
My Angela was here however many years ago, she didn't need it.
And my dad turned to him and said, Why do you think that is?
I hope, and to be clear, because I know I've you know made some waves by uh advocating violence, I am.
Not even political violence.
I'm advocating for lawful violence, protection of you and your own, where grace has been afforded before.
What I mean is if you were in a restaurant, if you were at your school recital for your kids, and someone came up and was throwing a milkshake at you, or you don't know if it's strawberry chocolate, vanilla acid, or concrete, you'd beat their ass.
We haven't because we've been taking the the high road, and so it's been open season.
We are being hunted.
Charlie Kirk was hunted.
Let's be very clear about that.
And what you're seeing, Tim, you know this, and everyone behind is afraid because I get it.
No one wants to, you don't want to make it about yourself.
But I know what you've been through.
I know what you've been through, and I know that you know people are just seeing the one that got through.
And when you block and you block and you block and you block all of these other assaults, all of these other attempts, people say, well, you're fine, you're a big guy, right?
No, that stops now.
I want the left, I want uh destiny to be able to do his copycat, change my mind thing with no security, as he has done.
I hope that they can continue to speak freely with very little security for the rest of their lives.
I want the left to be deathly afraid of showing up to ours and even thinking about being violently disruptive.
I hope that I've been crystal clear.
And if people have a problem with it, I I will answer for anything I've said.
One threat that we had that manifested in physical action, when we tried to get it dealt with, the legal response threatened the life of a third party public uh uh personality.
And so our lawyers basically like you can fight this and win, and then they will use that against you to target the third party.
They were effectively, it was like blackmail, and I and I and and for security reasons I can't even begin to describe what exactly was going on or how it would play out, because that would open the door and create the threats.
It's it's insane.
We had a man in a dress show up at our old location and physically attack one of the residents.
But so uh apparently this guy shows up in a dress, and I'm not saying trans person.
This is this is a clear distinction.
It was literally just a man in a dress and was walking around on our old property filming, and I got informed by our security that this was occurring.
The next day, one of the people who live there, because again, we don't operate there anymore, was physically attacked by this man, and it became a huge issue.
The low the the locals are all really pissed off because I'm not, you know, they were mad when I was there because of the threats, the swattings, the bomb threats.
We had the bomb squad come several times, and now I'm gone and it's still happening because these people have still published our world address, acting like it's real.
If I if I list out all of the things that we had to deal with, one recent incident this past weekend, just days after Charlie Kirk's assassination.
I think I think the unfortunate reality is we can't convey the true extent of how dangerous the left is because it increases the danger to us.
But as you've already pointed out, then people don't know just how serious it is.
Well, that's what I mean, you know, there's there have been a lot of mixed emotions and and and I'm not talking about now.
I've been really clear too, because I feel like there's a lot of clout chasing out there, people saying me and Charlie Kirk were best friends.
I have said Charlie Kirk and I were not close friends.
We were colleagues.
I had respect for his his testicular fortitude, as all of us did, and we were cordial.
That's it.
So I don't want to claim that I speak for him.
And I don't want to claim that I know what his family thinks because people will throw that back.
A lot of other people are doing that.
But I will say this uh I guarantee you he was scared.
He was brave.
He wasn't fearless, he was brave.
He knew, and I was angry at first because I watched it and I go, like we stopped doing change my mind a while ago because of the security risk, right?
And we go, no, you don't announce it beforehand.
We never go, like, ah, the speaker, the balconies, like these are part of a protocol that we had.
And then it came to look, I mean, why didn't I pick up a phone?
You know, I'd been through that.
And the truth is, um, I did this initially, and I know about all the security threats.
And like you said, because I because I didn't want copycats, I would tell people I had some close calls.
Yeah, and I see kids going out there, and and I get it, and the alternative is silence, and we cannot be terrorized into silence, but I want people to know, and I should have been clearer about it, that out there is the real world, and in the real world, there are psychos.
And if I would have told people the violence then that they face that the left wants you dead, they will take your life, and if they are unsuccessful, they will take your name.
Maybe we could have had a different outcome.
I don't know, but I do know this.
If someone is going to try and people are talking about taking that place and picking up the microphone, I get it, it's very touching.
People need to know that there are still crosshairs on that microphone.
And people need to take it seriously.
So when people say that I'm being irresponsible, I am doing the most responsible thing I can think to do in trying to write maybe some some errors, mistakes on my part.
I told people it was dangerous.
I didn't tell them the entire extent.
And I hope people know and take it seriously.
And the only thing that's going to curb it is for the left to be afraid to even think of it.
We've afforded them grace where they do not deserve it.
And I make no apologies for this.
I'm not calling for a civil war.
I'm not calling for people to go out and violently disrupt the left in any way.
And here's the thing.
No one is afraid of that.
Do you know how I know?
Because they desecrate the memorials and spit at the vigils right now, they still do it with no fear.
And and this is uh a good point you bring up because there's a viral video.
I commented on it, where it showed all these instances where people on the right had gone to rallies and got attacked, and they never defend themselves.
In all it was very rare.
There was like based stick man back in, you know, what, 2018 or whatever.
The one time a right winger started after the left came and attacked a peaceful rally, they defended themselves.
So I I I and agree, look at this.
It is still you and I talking about the restraint we need to have, how we don't want an escalation of violence, but we have to be prepared prepared when they engage in violence against us for legal, lawful self-defense to stop that from happening.
But I want to I want to say something.
You just said there are psychos out there, and here's where it's truly scary.
I've long said, uh, maybe even six months ago, I'm not scared of Antifa.
I don't fear leftists.
They make these threats online, we take them seriously, but I'm more worried about the lunatic who thinks I stole all of his spoons and have hid them in my basement.
A lot of the most serious threats that we get that we forward to the FBI and things like that are just lunatics saying things that make no sense but are serious threats.
This changes now.
And while I always consider the left to be a very serious threat, and we have security because of the left, Charlie Kirk didn't even believe that this would was possible.
If Charlie Kirk thought by stepping out into that tent he would take a bullet, he wouldn't have done it.
We thought security was good enough.
It's not gonna happen, and it did.
And I'll tell you where the real fear comes now.
I have friends on Facebook that I have known for decades since I was a child.
Um I have seen posts that have argued Trump killed Charlie Kirk to justify an expansion of the security state from people I know who know that Charlie and I were friends.
And and I heard what you said about you're not close friends.
I would also like to make sure I clarify this too.
It's a it's a weird thing, right?
I knew Charlie, I had his phone number, we texted, we didn't go out for beers or go golfing or anything, but I didn't consider him just to be a work colleague because of the support that he had offered me.
I considered it to be a friend in, you know, and and there are many people that I don't hang out with I consider to be friends, but I don't want people to think that we were like, you know, bar buddies or anything like that.
Well you were you were closer with them than I was, and I just want to I just want to be clear about that because I know that people go, Do you think this is what Charlie would have wanted?
Well, I don't know, he's dead.
I don't know, he's dead, he can't speak, and he's dead because he sat down at a table and allowed anyone who would speak or listen to have a conversation.
And very few people know what it's like to be in that chair.
I do.
I know what it feels like.
I know when you're surrounded, I know the kind of balls it took for Charlie Kirk to do.
He is dead.
And so when people say tone down the temperature, well, hot oh you know what?
Or do you really or how much do you want your kids to have a father?
It is terrorism.
Um, one thing I would say, I don't, I and I'm not saying this to disagree with you.
I I don't know if Charlie Kirk did know or didn't think it was possible.
I hope that he knew it was possible.
And it because I I very much did.
I mean, we had some, which I'll talk about probably more off air, some serious close calls, where every time I've been out in public, I've I've known that it's a very serious possibility.
And uh I know that he knew risk.
So whether he thought he would he would pay with his life to a terrorist, I don't know.
But I know he he he went out there and did it anyway, assuming some risk.
And and what I mean to say is we all think it's possible, but my point is if Charlie Kirk knew at that moment, walking out meant there was a guy waiting to kill him, he wouldn't have done it.
No, no one is going to walk into death intentionally for no for no reason.
We all assumed the risk.
That's why Charlie had security, because of course it's a possibility.
What's snary now is when run of the mill default libs, we call them, are posting justification, lying about Charlie Kirk, or saying other other people deserve it too.
I'm sitting here looking at these posts from people that I've known my whole life, and I'm and and I messaged one friend saying, You realize that the guy was a friend of mine that I for three years we would go out and visit, we would do the show with him, and and he would sit with us.
He's been on the show several times, no response.
They've cut me off.
And that to see other people, my whole feed is filled with every liberal being like other people deserve what's coming.
And that's when I realized the fear we have now and the increase in death threats and the increase in security.
A line has been crossed, and it didn't.
You know, I was asked the other night when one of our members in the call and show, do you think this will wake the left up and they'll calm down?
Yes, let me tell you, there would there would have been one acceptable response from the left, and only one would have been, okay, all right, guys, guys, this one's on us.
We called you fascists, we called you Nazis, and we know, right?
You don't deal with fascists at the ballot box, you can't.
So we box people into violence.
Hey, guys, this one's on us.
We presented every single view from those on the right as violence.
If they were pro-life, it was violence against women.
If they were pro-second amendment, it was violence because how many lives do you want to save, right?
Gun violence.
If it was pro-First Amendment, they were inciting violence.
If they were anti-Black Lives Matter, they were pro-police killing black violence.
And my guy, at the end of this, uh, if they're silent, it's also violence.
So when every single one of our positions has been presented as violence that cannot be dealt with democratically, it is a logical conclusion from the mentally ill that we are living, and that is a useful tool to the left.
And I remember too, I mean, when you were coming in, I don't want to mislabel you, but more moderate than me.
I think that's fair to say we're having conversations saying, man, these guys will kill you.
You're not their friend anymore.
I don't think you understand because I was raised in it.
I've known two conservatives my entire life from my childhood, socialist province.
One of them still works for me right now.
I then spent time in comedy clubs in Hollywood.
I was only surrounded by the left.
As a matter of fact, it took me a while to kind of understand the Fox News audience.
I was there for four years.
I was a conservative.
I didn't run in those circles.
I know how the left operates.
That would have been the only acceptable response.
Instead, they said, hey, both sides, that's verifiably untrue.
They said, actually, this shooter is a Trump, uh, is a Trump supporter.
Remember, we had that DOJ leak.
People said I lied.
People said I was lying, right?
They said the same thing about the Nashville manifesto, by the way.
It was a lie until it was a liability.
And then the mayor, the police, and the FBI said they would investigate and sue me.
By the way, that's one of the few instances of political violence on the left.
And Cato put a note saying, just note we did include Covenant High School, even though it's considered borderline because the PD said it's not ideologically motivated.
We were right.
And one thing, just one thing.
When we released that, that uh, well, two points here.
The reason we got that leak from an inside source, right?
The uh whenever it was, within 24 hours of the shooting, because someone at that department was concerned that it would be buried because he had seen things like this buried before.
Here's the most important part bullet engravings, antifa sayings, transferry stuff.
The shooter's still out there.
And so's Charlie Kirk's family, so's the Kirk family, so are you.
So are so are my entire team.
And we're on the menu.
And the left was more concerned with tar and tarring and feathering my name, your name, than keeping people safe.
They lied, and then they tried to blame it on the people who are the Victim of the violence.
They'll never get this right.
Ever.
Ever.
We are not going to hold hands.
We are not, I am, I am not going to unify with the left or the spineless right.
So there's the obvious, the obvious question of uh where that path leads us.
And I'm gonna, I'm gonna say it like this, because everybody watches me knows that we talk about civil war periodically, but more frequently than others.
I certainly get the memes, but we don't talk about it that much, but it does come up quite a bit.
And uh I'm I'm taking credit for my predictions being correct in many ways, though we haven't reached the full fruition.
And I'll, and the example that I've given is in September of 2020, I said on this show and on Tim Kest IRL that if Trump loses in November, his supporters, they're gonna go to DC, they're gonna storm into the White House, they will not accept this defeat.
November came and went.
I was called paranoid, crazy, rage baiter, pessimist, blackpilled by some on the right, all of the left.
They mocked me.
January 6th happened, and all of a sudden the liberals' narrative changed.
It wasn't that I was crazy for suggesting it, even though it wasn't the White House and it wasn't in November.
They said Tim Poole had foreknowledge of January 6th, and that statement proved it.
And so what I have described last year, during the election, before the election, I said, I was debating San Cedar.
I said, Do you think Trump's gonna use the military for immigration enforcement?
And he goes, yes.
And I said, and are you gonna let him?
And his response was wishy-washy, kind of like, well, liberals might actually do it, but maybe not.
And I said, My fear is that the president is going to call the National Guard as it pertains to immigration enforcement.
There will be a confrontation between state leadership as to who controls the National Guard.
It'll go to the courts, and there will be a fight over who's actually in charge, and this will create a rift.
Then escalation.
We are in this period now.
They have assassinated Charlie Kirk.
The escalation keeps happening, and everything that I've stated in some way, it's been relatively vague, but has been manifesting, and that terrifies me.
So when we say now, we it's not about whether we will or won't unify.
The reality is you can't unify.
There is no reality where I've already tried talking to some of my friends saying, hey, don't please don't say this and justify this.
They're they're saying they want to kill me, and they're they're like, we don't care, they're cut off.
Like they're not responding to me anymore.
They're posting one one, there's one individual, some some people in Hollywood that I know, actors and actresses, who have posted Charlie deserved it, here's why.
That should stop if you're saying you're going to kill the president.
If someone is going out saying, hey, I am going to firebomb your car and coming up with a Molotov cocktail, guess what?
You deal with it appropriately.
So I am advocating right now the same reason that we advocate concealed carry.
The left needs to fear ramifications.
If they behave like us, the left, in other words, if you come to whether it's a change of mind, a stand-up show, and you behave the way we behave, guess what?
You'll be treated the way we are all treated.
If you behave the way that conservatives never behave toward the left, which is unlawful, criminal, violent.
Let's start with this.
Let's make it sting.
Let's make it hurt.
Let's make it known that they don't get off scot-free anymore.
And here's the worst part, Tim.
They're gonna try and equivocate.
It only comes from the left.
It only comes from the left.
I've challenged people.
Show me one, one Charlie Kirk on the left, not an elected official.
Show me one instance where someone was assassinated as an act of terrorism in front of their family, merely for opinions and then gleefully celebrated thereafter.
You won't find it.
They'll try and go to Minnesota.
That guy, by the way, wasn't some Trump maniac.
He blamed Tim Walls.
He was out of his mind.
It's the closest thing they can come to when something might lee said on Twitter.
I don't give a shit.
I don't give a shit.
It's not even close.
And now they come out and say, actually, most of the violence comes from the right wing.
That was not registered as political violence, according to the recent economist numbers, which by the way, also have no left-wing political violence the entire summer of 2020.
So that's enough.
If that is not counted, then all of it is bullshit, throw it all out.
Now there are other uh factors that are important.
For example, pretty much any white on minority crime is considered to be violence labeled right.
Minority versus another minority or minority versus white is not.
Any crime against government officials or halls of government is considered right wing violence, including in some instances where it's members of Antifa committing the crime.
But you don't need to know anything else.
Trump supporter here, bang, bang, not political violence.
Yeah, I made a graph earlier where I took the uh it's like 13 major cities, and then said, break down all the violent crime incidents in 2023, which is usually you have the more accurate data, right by put by political party control and and and uh preference.
And guess what?
It's 95% Democrat.
So when we're actually talking about the risks of political violence, it is not a MAGA Trump supporter going up and shooting people.
The best thing they can do is say, like a white supremacist prison gang got into a fight, and that's right wing extremism.
Yeah, but no one's talking.
We're asking the question is Charlie Kirk is does he have anything to do with white supremacy?
No, in fact, he advocated against it.
So they lie.
However, the the assassin of Charlie Kirk's worldview was mainstream Democrat.
Gender ideology, that was the principal motivating factor according to law enforcement, it appears.
And that is any, you take any Democrat who claims to be a moderate, and they will support that ideology.
You take a white supremacist murder, and you will find every single Republican 100% condemning it.
Well, not to mention that uh people don't realize this that neo-Nazis are often still socialists.
That's one thing people don't realize.
They think they can make all the social programs work if just not for the blacks and browns and Jews.
Like people don't realize they actually supported the socialist part of the Nazi name as well.
So anything that is white supremacy, they just label as right wing.
Let me give you some examples of other ones that are not included, by the way.
It depends on whether you're using Cato or you're using um the economist.
I'll sort of dismiss the NIJ one because it was removed.
The left is saying it's removed because it proved their point, but the truth is it was removed because it was commissioned under a Biden uh administration and clearly was riddled with inaccurate forms of methodology.
Uh, not considered either terrorism or political violence, depending on which one we're using.
Not a single one of what uh the crimes committed in George Floyd's uh name, you know, where you had over 20 killed over uh over two billion in damages within the first few months.
Darryl Brooks, Waukesha killed six, injured 70, not included.
Again, that Portland shooting, none of these aren't you have to throw all of it out.
It is coming From the left.
And here's how you know you can believe your lying eyes and ears.
That's the empirical.
The anecdotal is they're showing up and spitting at the vigils and pantomiming a man dying in front of his children.
With it's not just that professors are showing students a snuff film to create a generation of psychopaths, by the way.
That's how you desensitize them, right?
Yep.
Uh it's that the professors have lived in an echo chamber for so long, they didn't even see it coming.
They didn't even understand that people might go, oh, wait, my teacher said good aim to a man who assassinated a father in front of his children.
They didn't, it didn't even cross their mind.
That's how consequence-free their lives have been.
And now the left tries to do the jujitsu gas letting cancel culture.
Uh no, Jimmy Kimmel deserved to be fired.
It is not an example of cancel culture.
And I don't give a shit.
I don't care anymore.
I want to fight.
I I hate, I hate the evil that inspires these people.
I don't like them.
I have plenty of friends.
I could use a few enemies.
I want to make examples of anyone out there who wants to make an example of us.
And here's the thing.
Hey, equal footing.
I've said this to the left.
You treat our violent guys who show up to your change my minds and prove me wrongs.
You treat our guys the same way we treat yours.
Bet you, you know, that's not an equitable trade, right?
What this is is um, I guess it's kind of scary to say, but the conversation is over.
For the past 10 years, we have seen or longer, we've seen the far left.
I mean, I I could say since going back to Occupy, the far left has gone out and been violent, and even they they use I I would say for a while, low grass, I call it blunt terrorism.
And that is when an antifa guy shows up to a peaceful rally and punches someone in the face, it's not national news, no one cares.
But it is terror, and it does make people think twice about doing these events.
They've now crossed the line into a direct assassination of a high-profile political figure and celebrated it.
I don't know what argument there is to be had when they're lying about Charlie Kirk, justifying his murder, and defending those who would call for mine, and they have the nerve to say, my God, the fascism.
Oh no, Jimmy Kimmel got fired, while they previously celebrated Roseanne and Tucker Carlson, and Charlie Kirk was just killed.
They are more upset that their comedian with the some of the worst ratings in all of media.
Jimmy Kimmel was getting 200,000 in the key demo.
And they're saying this is the worst thing's ever happened to us while Charlie Kirk, his his his family is still mourning his assassination.
I don't even know how to how to have a conversation with someone like that to explain to them we may disagree, but let's live together.
They've said no, and I don't know where this goes other than escalation, which worries me.
And that's why I'm telling people, that's why I'm sounding the alarm because I know and you know because we've been in it, and Charlie knew, and a lot of the public doesn't.
They think, gee golly, it's trolling.
And they didn't just answer softly, the left, meaning, like, yeah, they kind of tacitly.
No, they answered for look, let me let me ask you this.
You gov, bastion of conservatism, of course not, right?
I want you to close your eyes for a second and picture a fascist.
Picture a fascist party, a totalitarian, you know, Nazis, or it could be under Stahl and whoever, Pinochet.
Let me ask you, are you picturing 77% of them saying that political violence is never acceptable?
Because only Republicans answered that in this country to you, Gov versus 38% of Democrats.
That means significantly more than half of Democrats answered either completely acceptable to somewhat acceptable, or I don't know.
Guess what?
I don't want to be friends with, I don't know.
You're a piece of shit.
I'm gonna treat you like a piece of shit.
You're not my friend, and you killed one of them.
Okay, that's where we are.
I'm tired of this bullshit.
We have been in a fight, and this, gee golly, can't we all get along?
No, no, we cannot.
These people want you dead.
And if they can't, they can't take your life, they'll take your name.
They tried to take the ladder from me.
I don't care anymore.
I I just don't care.
It just doesn't matter.
We're not going to play the both sides bullshit.
And I'll tell you this.
Yeah, go sorry, and I'm not, I'm not yelling at you.
Can I say one thing, one thing about Jimmy Kimmel?
Okay.
Okay, I I really, you know, uh the comic committee appreciates the art of distillation because the left is trying to go, see, you're the party of cancel culture.
First off, shut the fuck up.
Second, let me make this really clear.
Okay, we've always had the bounds of society where we deem something unacceptable and you were not to live amongst us because it was such a violation of decorum.
Cancel culture is a shifting of the Overton window.
It's like someone walking backwards, laying down landmines.
Let me put this in two phrases.
1963, JFK is killed.
Do you think if that day a professor showed the film to his students and said, Yeah, I'm glad that the bits of his brain landed on his bitches jacket?
Do you think he would be fired?
Of course.
Now let me ask you, 63, same day.
If he said to his classroom, men are biologically different from women, would he be fired?
I I have to, I what I had stated to Variety when they interviewed me on this one is it's not so much that it's an increase in the threats.
Like it is, it is.
It's just making more real what we already knew.
I was talking to uh a veteran who had him on the show on IRL, IRL, and he said, you know, when we were in combat and say Afghanistan, you feel the threat when you go out there, but after a couple of weeks, you start to become complacent.
Maybe you don't look around the corners anymore.
And that's when the ID goes off or you get shot at.
And I feel like that's what this is really exposed.
So my last question is I'm I'm curious, how has it been for you guys?
Have you had any alerts, close calls, and an increase in and in let's just call it weird instances or threats?
I just said I didn't want you to think I because I know initially said 30 to an hour.
I told them to say I'm good for now, but whatever you want.
Obviously, you can boot me.
Uh yeah, you know, here's the thing, too.
I went through um, you know, some very public legal battles, and I had uh I'll use the term spineless conservatives dox the house where I and my children sleep to Antifa.
I think you kind of covered some of this without getting into detail.
So um, that's been ongoing, and it's a your life is forever changed, right?
Everything you do always has to be done very prudently, without exception.
You have to be perfect because what the left sees, what the world sees, I should say, is what gets through.
Guarantee you for what you saw happen, the absolute atrocity, tragedy, the cold-blooded assassination as an act of terrorism against Charlie Kirk was one of dozens that got through.
And there's a difference between drama, oh, someone said they want to kill me.
Okay, get in line.
In real ones, um, you know, I would say that they're still pretty steady.
Uh, but again, I I um, you know, I'll tell you this is a personal thing.
My um, my uh my lady, my girlfriend, for quite a while now.
She's uh she's a fiery Latina.
She um when she met me, I I kind of have a reputation of being a hermit, a little bit of a recluse.
I'm a homebody, but I was getting a lot of threats at one point.
When she met me, I was largely kind of staying at home and being careful.
So I would just tell her I had some close calls.
On our show, she saw a highlight reel with everything from me getting punched in the face, horse collared, uh, people attempting to fire bomb, throwing all this stuff.
And she has been, now to the uninitiated, what someone would view as paranoid.
Or she said, I didn't know all, I didn't know how I only see the positive interactions.
You know, we go somewhere, and I've said, Yeah, so maybe now you understand why sometimes I'm a little a little tense.
And she, I hate this, but she's getting a taste of it because I wanted to protect her from it.
And you can't.
That's the real issue, too.
That's really tough as a man.
It's like you can't protect those around you from these animals.
So the closest thing I can think of is a tone shift.
I want the left to be scared.
I want it to hurt when they try and hurt ours.
I'm not even advocating political violence.
I'm advocating for the first time, conservatives, to exercise their right to lawful violence.
And we need to see this across the board because the system's, I mean, uh you're advocating self-defense.
I watched these videos where conservatives get punched in the head.
When Andy Noah was being mercilessly beaten, he didn't fight back.
He just kept going as they beat him and beat him.
Someone like the beatings won't stop until you defend yourself.
And that is why we are legally allowed to defend ourselves to stop them from injuring us, from hurting us.
And I think the sad reality is conservative conservatives just kept turning the other cheek.
Yeah.
They didn't want the escalation.
And and you know what's fascinating too is the the really great the horrifying example is the Proud Boys in New York, when the far left was attacking patrons of this speaking event with Gavin McGuinness, Proud Boys came out, Antifa was taunting and throwing things.
The Proud Boys engaged them.
A fight broke out.
I'd call that mutual combat.
Although, to be fair, Antifa went to their event and instigated it, but fine, let's call it mutual.
When the police showed up, the Proud Boys with smiles on their faces, thanked the police and gave all their information over.
And Antifa said, F the police and ran.
And then, with the information on the Proud Boys, the city government said, lock them up, and they got four years in prison despite being the ones aggressed upon.
I think we should include all um, you know, in Chicago, you've got uh a lot of uh violent crime among the young black men, they're the majority of the murders.
That's all left as far as I'm concerned.
So I'm gonna, I'm gonna I'm gonna play the same game they do.
I'm gonna make an institution that which is a meaningless term.
I'm gonna create a nonprofit, I'm gonna call it an institution, and then I'm gonna get some doctors who have like the stupidest doctorate degree, so I can have doctor whoever.
Then we're gonna take every gang shooting and say, because liberals release them from from prison, this is leftist violence because it's in line with their worldview.
And then take a look at what those charts are gonna show.
It's gonna, there's gonna be such a small sliver of right wing, we may as well not even include it.
In fact, we won't.
We'll say the right was so low compared to leftist violence that it was a rounding air we decided not to include.
Well, I mean, because look, the the left uh talks about white supremacy and uh white privilege.
And so uh the the the data shows they have a uh uh white liberals have an outgroup preference.
So if then the violence is targeting non uh uh non-black people, then I think our institution can just refer to that as leftist and and we'll make those charts, right?
Now, the the reality is good enough for me.
But we've been honest the whole time, and this doesn't work on the right.
You can't make fake stats to trick the right, they'll just get mad at you for doing it.
But liberals fall for it every time when the left does it.
And that's also why it's hard sometimes to uh get the right to sort of coalesce, you know, uh around each other because they just have a naturally rebellious streak.
Just understand the enemy that it is we're facing.
They are violent, they want you dead.
This is not, this is not a difference of opinion on marginal tax rates.
And here's the thing.
Charlie Kirk sat down and had conversations with people, and they have conceded the war of ideas, the left, because they can't win.
So they took his life.
They took his life anyway.
Now let me ask you this.
Anyone watching, anyone listening?
What views do you hold that you think might be to the right of Charlie Kirk?
If you vote Republican, there's a good chance a few of them.
What do you think they do to you if given the chance?
Because publicly, privately, overtly, he said gay people should be welcome in their movement.
And he's got viral videos where a young gay conservative is talking to him in the microphone, and Charlie says, you don't need to describe yourself as gay.
That's not who you are.
You're a conservative.
I hope that you come to Christ.
That's what Charlie Kirk said to him.
Imagine 15 years ago that the Republican Party was not there.
They're claiming Charlie Kirk is far right.
I argue that Charlie Kirk was moderate.
And so what does that mean for everybody who actually is staunchly conservative?
Anyone who has a problem with it, I'll make the case.
And this reaction, this reaction saying actually more violence comes from the right, it tells you the left is incapable of taking accountability and they are going to continue down this path.
More people are gonna die unless something changes from our side.
The worst thing I think about it is uh, you know, Medi Hassan is a good example.
He published a list of out-of-context quotes, as have many of these liberals.
Because this is the second degree of how they try to defend uh and justify the murder.
What they're doing now is here here's here's what I think happened.
I think when Charlie first was assassinated, liberals were all cheering and dancing.
There was one viral video from some random woman.
She's not anyone special.
And she said, she was laughing and said, the best thing about it is that Charlie was not well known enough to be a martyr.
That's what they thought.
And then the Yankees, the Cowboys, all these football teams held a moment of silence for Charlie in Vegas on the marquee, they were putting up in memory of Charlie Kirk.
The New York Times put it on their on their menu bar at the top of their website, Charlie Kirk.
And I think then liberals realized, oops, this guy was actually extremely popular among regular people for trying to just have a conversation.
It was entertaining.
It was fun.
He made it fun to have these conversations.
So they shifted their tactics.
Liberals were now feeling scared.
Are people now gonna be mad at us for cheering for this?
Don't worry, says Medi Hassan and Occupy Democrats.
It was wrong to kill him, but look how evil he was.
And then the liberals get to go, well, he was evil, I guess, but those quotes were all lies.
The most egregious of which is there's there's memes going on all over Facebook where it says black women in brackets, and then it says dot dot dot, don't have the brain processing power to be in these positions.
He said, These women who have stated publicly they were hired under DEI, didn't have the processing power, the brain processing power to hold these jobs.
He was referring to specific individuals, not whole groups of people, but they lie because they need you.
They want they what they want is they want liberals to publicly say, sure, the assassination assassination was wrong, but privately think it was okay.
They they killed Charlie Kirk, who who was talking specifically about those women who said they were DEI hires, right?
Black women pro How about um now you deal with the people you've turned into this.
Those dumb bitches who happen to be black, Jackson Lee and Kitanji Brown Jackson.
Hey, those dumb bitches who happen to be black and tell you they got their job because they're black.
I'm just saying dumb bitches.
They're saying they got their job because they're black.
You draw your own conclusions.
I don't care anymore.
I don't.
And you know what else?
When I talk with actual with black people, and I'm a guy, again, after you know, I we we changed one of the things we changed, changed my mind to talking with people because quite literally it's harder to set up a shot.
So I can walk with people and just talk with people and tell I had to do it out of necessity.
Then we did black and white and the great issues where I go into a barber shop.
Did you know, Steven, that uh Charlie Kirk said, and I quote, black children are a gift from God.
Now that doesn't sound like a white supremacist to me, but let me let me caveat that.
What actually happened was that Charlie Kirk was at one of his events, and a black woman walked up with her young child, who's about a year old, and she was asking Charlie a question about faith and made a mention of having a child.
Charlie smiled and said, This is you you just had a kid recently and said yes, and he goes, That child is a gift from God.
Now, here's the thing.
What they do is they apply false context.
Did Charlie say all black children in this context are a gift from God?
No, he was referring to a single child.
The reality is on the right, if I were to make that fake quote, conservatives would be like, hey, he didn't say that.
That's he was referring to because we want the truth.
We want to know what he was actually conveying.
But we know he literally does believe that any child of any background is a gift from God and children are fantastic.
We not only do we not make fake quotes to lie and smear people, we can't because people will get mad.
You know, every day I put up a video on YouTube.
I try to make sure the title is as accurate, conveying my opinion without distorting it as possible.
And I still have people on the right saying, rage bait, you're you oh, like this, you know, we put up a title and uh like yesterday with Jimmy Kimmel getting fired, and as soon as it goes live, all the comments, you know, there's like three or four comments saying, This better not be clickbait, this better be real, as if I'm lying when I say Jimmy Kimmel was fired, because they won't tolerate lies.
But what I do want to say is on the issue of lawful violence, the idea of self-defense, that we will not tolerate this anymore.
There is a clear and a distinct uh bit of information the left needs to understand.
For the longest time, we did not think you were actually going to kill us.
We thought it was possible.
And we thought that when you when you showed up with rocks or Molotovs, for the most part, the violence was bad, but we could we could we try to avoid the fights, right?
They say in uh uh the fight, uh any fight you've avoided is a fight you've won.
The problem now is they've actually killed Charlie Kirk.
And now I have extreme fear of death from the left, not just because of what I witnessed, but because they are posting online a list of names with you and me on them saying we should be next and saying go kill them.
I can only make one assumption, and I have the legal right to do so.
If I fear for my life, I will use whatever power I have to defend myself.
If you are going to inflict great bodily harm or death upon me or the people around me, I have a legal right to self-defense.
And we and they have made sure with this killing that we all feel that any step they make towards us with violence is a risk of death.
And now I don't want anyone to die.
I don't want anyone to get hurt, I oppose the death penalty.
I I want I want people to live peacefully and comfortably, but I am not going to sit back and let you just shoot me or kill me.
So my eyes, I am I am staying vigilant, I am getting my security guards, and I'll keep it real simple.
You know what?
I'm gonna say this, uh, Stephen.
I will never, I will never even defend myself.
I want you to hear that.
You know why?
My armed guards with AR-15s will do it for me who are around me and watching to make sure if you try to step forward and risk the life of me and my family, they will use all legal means to stop the threat before you can hurt other people.
Yeah, well, I understand that, for example, when I did uh because a lot of the changed my minds weren't even on campus, they were just in in in you know public spaces.
Um, it's the one time I didn't carry.
My security guards were there for the left.
Because what do you think I do to you?
What do you think I do to these people if they're not there?
If I'm sitting with my family, you've met me.
You know, look, it's a hobby.
Some people, you know, they they dabble in watercolors, oils.
Mine is fighting.
That's been a hobby of mine for a long time.
They're there to protect them because if you steal a homeless man's lunch box and launch it at my face while claiming you're a woman in a letterman's jacket, it's an actual video.
You can go watch it.
I would have beaten your ass.
But now, afforded no grace.
I agree with you, and I think it's a very noble thought.
I disagree with one thing.
I don't want everyone to live in peace and comfort unless they deserve it, unless they've earned it.
And in this country, for me, now it's you need to earn it.
I want them to live in fear and discomfort if they are willing to commit acts of violence because of political differences.
I have I have uh well, this uh I appreciate you going longer.
This has been uh uh a lot of fun.
So I'll say one last thing.
I've got advice for these leftists for these liberals, and I hope they take it.
Hear me.
I want you to go to Walmart, buy a nice little cheap folding table and some big white poster board and write on it, Trump is a fascist, change my mind, and go sit down at a university and tape it there, have a peaceful conversation with that.
That'll show those conservatives.
Challenge them to a bait and their ideas, Change their minds and you will win the political debate.
But for the for the most part, they have tried wearing masks, beating people, threatening people.
You know what?
That doesn't fly.
Try the change my mind approach.
And I, with a smile on my face, will say, appreciate it.
Uh well, again, because I'm percenter non-grata uh at YouTube, but Rumble uh live stream every day, and you're on that lineup uh too, where each show rolls in the next 11 a.m. Eastern every day of the week.
And uh, you know, we're still still uh number one there in our time slot, and it's going on a long time.
On a, by the way, Rumble being more downloaded than YouTube in the app store now.
That's that's a real change.
Yeah, I really want to see YouTube.
Um, I mean, figuratively, by the way, just to be clear because of all this talk of violence.
I want to see YouTube die as a platform, but first I want to see it suffer.