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| It's crazy that this degree of violence exists. | ||
| And the question is, how do you stop it? | ||
| Yeah, that's a bit that's the million dollar question. | ||
| That's why no politician is willing to even tackle the issue because it's harder than just a 30-minute fix. | ||
| You cannot fix and unravel what has been infused into the community for decades now. | ||
| You're not gonna fix it in 10, 15 years. | ||
| This is a complete overhaul of an entire identity in a group of people. | ||
| Here's the story from Mediaite. | ||
| This man was hurting, said CNN's Van Jones about the killer who stabbed Ukrainian refugee to death. | ||
| Let's uh refresh. | ||
| You know, let me just say a couple of things. | ||
| One is I mean, what happened to that young woman was horrible. | ||
| And it's everybody's nightmare, if you're in a in any public space, uh subway, whatever, that something bad's gonna happen to you or somebody you care about. | ||
| So it does strike a chord. | ||
| We don't know why that man did what he did. | ||
| He said I got to say we know he did it because she's white. | ||
| When there's no evidence of that, it's just pure race uh race mongering, hate mongering. | ||
| It's wrong. | ||
| Then he says that if something like that had happened the other way, there would be sweeping changes and pose We get it. | ||
| He says the killer was hurting, and we don't know why he did it, despite the fact on video he says, I got that white girl. | ||
| Apparently he says it twice. | ||
| That's what it sounds like. | ||
| Now we have this. | ||
| Listen to this. | ||
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All oppressed people have a right to violence. | |
| And I'm gonna tell you something. | ||
| It's like a right to be. | ||
| You gotta have the right place, you gotta have the right time, you gotta have the appropriate situation, and I'm absolutely convinced that this is it. | ||
| This clip was posted by Black Lives Matter just the other day, as this national conversation is emerging. | ||
| This is from a film, 1983 called Born in Flames. | ||
| And it's a feminist communist propaganda piece, and they are justifying their right to use violence at a time when we're talking about a man who killed a young white girl who's not from this country, who's not a colonizer, who did nothing wrong. | ||
| So I'm gonna be bringing in Brandon Tatum. | ||
| He knows a lot about this. | ||
| He's the expert. | ||
| Let's uh let's let's pull him in and uh see if we get this going. | ||
| It looks like uh should be working just fine. | ||
| Let's uh boot it up. | ||
| Loading. | ||
| Hey, Brandon, can you hear me? | ||
| Yes, I can hear you. | ||
| Hey, all right, glad we got you, we got you in. | ||
| And uh thanks for joining me, man. | ||
| Appreciate it. | ||
| That's my pleasure, man. | ||
| Did you see this video that Black Lives Matter posted? | ||
| It's this clip from a movie in the 80s where a black woman says, We have a right to violence, all oppressed people do. | ||
| They posted it just the other day. | ||
| Yeah, I saw a little bit of clip of it. | ||
| I didn't want to watch it all because it was so ridiculous, but I saw a small clip of it. | ||
| We also have that clip from Van Jones where he said, we don't know why this killer did it, and this killer was hurting. | ||
| So, I mean, you you've got experience, obviously, with crime, law enforcement, all that stuff. | ||
| I'm I'm curious your thoughts on the game that they're playing. | ||
| But seriously, the statement from BLM, we know what they're trying to say. | ||
| It's kind of freaky. | ||
| Well, it's not shocking to me as a black man, it's not shocking. | ||
| And in and to most black people in America that got common sense of this being honest, it's not shocking that the uh lack of concern that black people have in situations like this. | ||
| If this was the roles reversed, then many people would admit to this, it would be outrage. | ||
| People be in the streets, people be screaming and spitting on each other, pro protests, burnt burning buildings and all kind of stuff if the roads were reversed. | ||
| But in this particular scenario, even on the bus, even on the even on the transit system, you had everybody around them were black, and he didn't stab nobody but her. | ||
| Then allegedly he mentioned, I got that white girl. | ||
| And then none of the black people did anything to help her initially. | ||
| They just, oh, it ain't none of my business. | ||
| White girl gets attacked, it ain't none of my business. | ||
| And so it's not shocking to me. | ||
| And when you talk about the Black Lives Matter uh scenario where they said the choir part out loud, the reason that I know that this is the true feeling of of how black people feel, generically speaking, is because I used to feel this way. | ||
| I had the mind virus of hating white people growing up feeling like all white people hated me, and they're, you know, slavery was played a big part of it. | ||
| The police Played a big part of it. | ||
| And when you're you're infected with that mind virus, all you see is white people bad, white people bad. | ||
| So every interaction you have is subconsciously you're thinking in your mind that this is a negative interaction and the white people are doing something uh against me, even if they're not doing nothing against you. | ||
| The fact that white people are succeeding is an affront to black people when you grow up generically. | ||
| Not every black person is like this. | ||
| I mean, generally speaking, this is how black people feel. | ||
| So I'm not shocked that we don't see backlash. | ||
| I'm not shocked that people get on TV and try to make excuses for this guy. | ||
| They they they've been telling us for decades, and especially in like the 2010s with wokeness, DEI, that there's this plague of white supremacy in the country. | ||
| It's in it's entrenching the ideas that that you just explained. | ||
| And so, you know, Viva Fry the other day was saying, you've got this guy who's clearly schizophrenic or mentally ill, whatever it is that's going on. | ||
| And then for a decade, he's told by the corporate press, by the media, that he's being hunted on a daily basis by white people, and this is what you get. | ||
| So it's like everything you just said, but then you add on this tenfold attack by the media, and it seems like you are going to get more attacks like this. | ||
| And you know, now there's a conversation popping up around interracial violence, where you know, Will Kane talked about it, uh, Matt Walsh is talking about it. | ||
| I'm curious your thoughts on this as part of the conversation that black on what black on white violence is 26 times higher than white on black violence. | ||
| Do you think that's because of these narratives and that feeling you described? | ||
| A thousand percent. | ||
| When you when you were raised to view white people from the lens of a people who created slavery, which is how most people are receiving this information about slavery, and they're evil and they're conquerors all over the country, all over the world. | ||
| They conquered Native Americans. | ||
| These are evil, evil white people. | ||
| And what did they do to our ancestors? | ||
| They hung them from trees, they mutilated them. | ||
| Jim Crow. | ||
| When this is punched into your brain, and then every time you get pulled over by a white cop and you black, they just gun you down like an animal. | ||
| You feel oppressed, you feel angry, you feel vengeful, and it's all a lie. | ||
| But what happens is that vengeance and that that hatred and somewhat fear causes you to be extra aggressive towards white people. | ||
| I remember when I was younger, and I felt like black people were better than white people, and I felt like white people were inferior. | ||
| And I looked at white men as cowards, and I would love an opportunity to put my hands on a white guy if I had the opportunity to, because my mind was caught up on what this is what y'all didn't did to my people all these years. | ||
| When a white, when a bad thing would happen to a white person, I used to feel like, why do we care? | ||
| They didn't care about us. | ||
| You you get what I'm saying, Tim. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And like this is what happens, and this is why we see the numbers the way we do. | ||
| In part, the other part of it is culture of violence amongst black people. | ||
| Because one of the reasons why I felt like I was stronger, better, and and and you know, most black people think we'll just dust these white boys off, and they they're nowhere near as strong and and violent as we are. | ||
| And that's because in part is true. | ||
| A lot of us grew up in traumatic households, grew up with doubt of father, with anger issues, not understanding how to handle our emotions, in some cases getting abused. | ||
| Because when I was growing up, they you get beat with switches and extension cords and all kinds of other stuff that stems from these poor black neighborhoods. | ||
| So you grow up with aggressiveness and violence, and therefore, you know, when the rubber hit the road, you see what happened where they knocked a woman out, it's stomping the white people out in the middle of the street. | ||
| And and Tim, this is just black violence against white, black on black is even worse. | ||
| If you go to my Instagram story right now, I show two videos of young black men just gunning each other down in the middle of the street, broad daylight. | ||
| I mean, no mask, no, they're not even really running away from the crime, walking up on a brother and just unloading on him. | ||
| It was one situation, and I think it was in Chicago, kid riding his bike, and they call it his ops. | ||
| They jump out of cars by four or five of them. | ||
| They all gunning them down with fully automatic weapons. | ||
| I mean, they standing over him, shooting them, I don't know, a hundred times. | ||
| They they call it ops, you said. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| They this is sure for opposition, like you know, the people who are ops or people who are against you. | ||
| Um, and it's just kind of short for opposition. | ||
| Nick Shirley went to Chicago recently. | ||
| He went to like gangland, and he went and he he he embedded with this rapper, and they were saying exactly that. | ||
| I didn't quite understand what it meant. | ||
| I'm from Chicago. | ||
| I've not heard that term. | ||
| And he was saying, we gotta be careful, we got ops. | ||
| And then I was like, Ops, what is it? | ||
| What is that? | ||
| You know? | ||
| Uh, here's the crazy thing. | ||
| Like in Chicago, is exactly what you're talking about. | ||
| This is exactly what Nick Shirley was filming. | ||
| They're walking around with guns, they got switches, they got full auto. | ||
| They talk about the gas station is where you go to basically die because they just go there, they just shoot and kill each other. | ||
| And it's not even about being in a gang. | ||
| It's just you might you'll have a beef, and so you'll get caught up in it, someone will shoot at somebody else. | ||
| It's crazy that this degree of violence exists. | ||
| And the question is, how do you stop it? | ||
| Yeah, that's a bit that's the million-dollar question. | ||
| That's why no politician is willing to even tackle the issue because it's harder than just a 30-minute fix. | ||
| You cannot fix and unravel what has been infused into the community for decades now. | ||
| You're not gonna fix it in 10, 15 years. | ||
| This is a complete overhaul of an entire identity in a group of people. | ||
| I mean, the political leaders won't even say anything about it. | ||
| How many black leaders do you see on both sides of the spectrum that are saying this was wrong that that man stabbed that white girl like that, and they're out here protesting? | ||
| You won't see a single black leader doing it, except if it's the conservative. | ||
| Black Lives Matter posted a video saying we have a right to violence. | ||
| It's like that's man reading. | ||
| That's the same organization that do nothing for black people. | ||
| And mind you, this they create hatred and cause black people to hate white people and become violent. | ||
| They justify black violence, so therefore more young brothers are incarcerated. | ||
| They glorify drug dealing and George Floyd behavior, so more black people are participating in behavior and doing time in prison. | ||
| And then when they get money extracted from the wealthy white class of America and corporations, what do they do with the money? | ||
| They enrich themselves and go buy houses. | ||
| They didn't give no money to George Floyd, they gave no money to Michael Brown family, they gave no money to Brianna Taylor family. | ||
| They've given no money and made no difference in the black community. | ||
| They just extract it, and that's all they do. | ||
| So you you're talking about how when you were growing up, you had this resentment towards white people that was like you were raised with. | ||
| Was there in in in your community, was there like a positive reinforcement? | ||
| So, like we with this guy stabbing this young woman, you you see that nobody on the initially everyone just looks and they're like, I'm not getting involved, right? | ||
| I've heard stories like that. | ||
| I'm wondering if there's actually even worse than that. | ||
| Is there like a positive reinforcement where someone else who's black and feels that way says, good? | ||
| You you're saying a positive reinforcer mean reinforcing the poor poor behavior in a black. | ||
| Like, look, let's say that there's like a black neighborhood, and some dude just hates a white person, he beats them up. | ||
| Are there other black people who are like it was good that you did that? | ||
| Like they're happy about the violence. | ||
| I mean, it's I I think the overarching approval that you get is why you continue to see this stuff happening. | ||
| I'm telling you, like there are black people. | ||
| Don't get don't get it twisted that all black people are cheering for this. | ||
| Like sane black people like myself and others know that it's an atrocity. | ||
| However, do you think you can go look on posts from black Instagram, uh, shade room, just look at some posts and see what they say. | ||
| Look at what happened with the young man in Texas that stabbed uh Camillo Anthony that's that stabbed the white kid. | ||
| He had to go fund me. | ||
| I almost raised a million dollars. | ||
| I think they raised close to a million dollars. | ||
| Yeah, and then not only did they raise the money, Tim, what were the comments that were said under the raising of the money? | ||
| Yep. | ||
| And if you go anywhere now, because it was so egregious what this guy did to this white girl, but go to the black blogs, go to some of these things. | ||
| I guarantee you, I will put my life on it in all of my wealth that you will find people on these posts saying, so what? | ||
| Look at what they did to us all these years. | ||
| There's one viral post that people are sharing from X where someone said it said, 'We even' for George Floyd now. | ||
| And it showed a picture of the girl being murdered. | ||
| As if, and it's it's just it's insane. | ||
| They they, you know, Van Jones comes out and says, How dare Charlie Kirk race monger? | ||
| It's like, bro, there's nothing racial about the George Floyd killing. | ||
| It was cops Of various ethnic backgrounds and a black man who died. | ||
| And there was no evidence that it was racially motivated, but they decided it was. | ||
| In this instance, dude is on video, and it sounds like he says, I'm being careful, but it does sound like he says, I got that white girl. | ||
| And Van Joe says, How dare you? | ||
| It's nuts. | ||
| And this is what this is what ruins the reputation of most black people. | ||
| Because I there's a lot of black people out there that say this is an atrocity. | ||
| This is crazy. | ||
| That dude's a lunatic. | ||
| He should go to hell for what he did. | ||
| But the problem is that there's enough black people that are saying the opposite in such an egregious way. | ||
| And there's enough black people who are political leaders and people who on television. | ||
| I mean, on the episode where he said that the only two, the three dummies on the show, two of them were black. | ||
| And so it seems disproportionate that black people have this sentiment. | ||
| And they're hypocrites because we know, like you said, George Floyd had nothing to do with race. | ||
| Eric Garner had nothing to do with race. | ||
| None of these police shootings had anything to do with race. | ||
| The problem is that there ain't no black cops to kill you. | ||
| So if you're gonna die, it's only the white man patrolling your community because y'all don't even plot to be a police officer in many of these cities. | ||
| So it's not a race thing. | ||
| It's a it's a you pull the gun on a cop thing and you got shot. | ||
| And so when you look at it, you know, with that with that context, why would a Van Jones say this with because you know, without being disingenuous? | ||
| He wants to save face for the black community, bruh. | ||
| There is there is nothing but black people standing around this man. | ||
| He on the train every day, yeah, he on the train around all these black people, and then when the white girl gets on, he stabs her. | ||
| He didn't stab the person next to him, people behind him. | ||
| He stabbed the white girl, walked away. | ||
| If he was really a violent individual that wanted to seek death of people, he'd have stabbed her, he'd have stabbed the lady next to him, he'd have stabbed a couple people and ran off the train. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| It was arguing with race. | ||
| It's funny because in Chicago, you know what they do? | ||
| When the crime gets really bad in these black areas, they just bulldoze all the buildings and flatten them and turn them into turn it to dirt. | ||
| And that's the Democrat plan. | ||
| Hundred years of Democrat political supermajority in Chicago and these areas that are high crime, and they have this this culture of violence, they just say eventually, you know what? | ||
| Just come they kick everybody out by force. | ||
| They did this in the Leclair courts, they promised we're gonna we're gonna tear these houses down, rebuild nicer and better homes for all of you. | ||
| Never did. | ||
| It's been 16 years. | ||
| It was a trick because they don't want to deal with the problem. | ||
| They don't want to figure out because you know what it is, they can't come out publicly and say, hey, these black neighborhoods have a high violence problem, and we want to figure out how to solve it. | ||
| So we're gonna need law enforcement, because it's offensive, it offends the sensibilities of the modern left, including these uppity white liberals. | ||
| So instead, they they announced they're doing beautification and repairs. | ||
| That way everybody can clap and pat each other on the back, bulldoze all the houses, walk away, and never fix it. | ||
| And all that does is it makes the problem get worse every day. | ||
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Timpool, let's put this in perspective real quick. | |
| When you look at the homicides, most of the homicides that are committed, a majority of the homicides, which means around I've seen numbers of 48 to 51% are committed by black people. | ||
| Now, the majority of those people who were killed by black people, the 50%, 98% are black. | ||
| Yeah, so majority of half of the murders are black people murdering other black people. | ||
| If we put police officers, just say we doubled the number on the south side. | ||
| You only have to be all over Chicago. | ||
| You live in Chicago, the all of Chicago isn't bad. | ||
| It's just these areas, mostly black areas that are war zones. | ||
| If you had a cop on every corner, people won't be committing crimes like this. | ||
| This is opportunistic. | ||
| They know there's no cops there, they know they can kill a brother and nobody's gonna snitch. | ||
| And in the in the uh arrest rates and conviction rates of homicides against black people are are like 80% of them go unsolved. | ||
| You know, you know what's really weird, is that uh you're exactly right. | ||
| The majority of the crime, it's it's it's not it's intra-racial. | ||
| These young black men, it's and and you know when we say like majority of the murders are black people, it's actually black young black men, and they're killing other young black men. | ||
| And for some reason, Chicago being a great example, after a hundred years, Democrats couldn't solve the problem. | ||
| But I'll tell you what they're really good at doing putting planned parenthoods in black neighborhoods. | ||
| And I'm and I'm thinking about I'm like, man, they should do an act a lot of policies that kill black people and reduce the black population. | ||
| Come on, somebody gotta say it, Tim. | ||
| You know, and I don't want to hear no black people uh give you any problems for saying what you said because they should be saying it. | ||
| If they don't want to hear you say it, they should be saying it. | ||
| Why are we advocating for and black people disproportionately are represented in abortions in America? | ||
| Disproportionately, disproportionately are represented in violence, murder, being murdered, um, incarceration, poverty, low education, and instead of us saying, hey man, we need to get back to the drawing board to start worrying about white people and start worrying about black people in the inner city, black black youth, marriage, all this stuff. | ||
| We need to start getting back to getting in the God in the church. | ||
| We steady blaming the pointing the finger at the white man. | ||
| We mad at the white man for telling the truth instead of addressing the truth. | ||
| We had at Trump for wanting to call in the National Guard to end the violence in in black cities. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Instead of them doing it, they mad at Trump for doing it. | ||
| This is what this is what the left does. | ||
| They claim that the right are the racists when they're actually enacting policies that are making everything worse from like the welfare policies to, as I mentioned, keeping like the cops don't go in these areas, and these are democratically appointed police departments in these cities. | ||
| And then they the the left narrative is that the white people are bad. | ||
| But the funny thing I love about this is you go to every single white waspy conservative, and they're gonna tell you the Supreme Court should be eight, it should be Clarence Thomas and eight of his clones. | ||
| It's it's it's not an issue of race, it's an issue of policy to make the community and and and people's lives better. | ||
| Well, I'm gonna tell you this story. | ||
| I was in Portland, and the Proud Boys were marching with Patriot Prayer. | ||
| Ooh, right wing, oh, white supremacists, they call them. | ||
| Except the funny thing was Antifa and the far leftists were all white, and there was a proud boy, he was a black man, and they were screaming the N-word at him from across the street. | ||
| And he got pissed. | ||
| And he broke from the group and went to go across the street. | ||
| He was gonna throw fists. | ||
| These were white leftists, Antifa screaming racial slurs at a black proud boy. | ||
| And then a white proud boy grabbed him and he and he held his hand and he was like, Don't listen to them, brother. | ||
| You're you're you're with me. | ||
| We're brothers, we're in this together, they're trying to rile you up. | ||
| And I'm like, why am I standing next to the quote unquote white supremacists? | ||
| It's a white guy holding hands with a black guy saying, You're my brother, don't listen to the racial slurs. | ||
| And it's the leftists who are screaming racist stuff. | ||
| It's just it's mind blowing. | ||
| It's it's it's uh a mind virus, a mind worm that these people got in their mind. | ||
| And it is hypocrisy and also projection. | ||
| They really hate black people and they really have hatred in their heart. | ||
| That's why they project it on other people. | ||
| I've been around Pratt. | ||
| That's why I I never dis uh say negative things about the Proud Boys based on because based on my own experience. | ||
| We we went to an event, it was a black event. | ||
| It was Dinesh D'Souza. | ||
| He had like four black conservatives on a panel at his event, and and Tifa was there to protest or whatever, and you know who was there to protect us and who was there to make sure we were good, the Proud Boys. | ||
| And the funny thing is that that most of them were black and Hispanic. | ||
| Yeah, like they frame it as if the Proud Boys, a bunch of white dudes. | ||
| It's like when the Proud Boys in LA, they were it was one white guy, the rest of them were black and Hispanic, and and they're framing it as if they're bad. | ||
| I've never seen the Proud Boys in my personal experience. | ||
| I've never seen them do anything else but be patriots and try to stand up for what's right against these nut jobs. | ||
| And I'll tell you this, I went on campus, you know, these Black Lives Matter folks. | ||
| I go on campus at UC Davis, we get attacked. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Not one video of a single black person defending me, and I didn't need to defend physically, but no, no one's defending me on online and saying, nah, that's wrong. | ||
| Then white people come in my social media uh right now and they call me the N-word on X because they don't like what I say about Israel or whatever the case may be. | ||
| But but black people are cool with that. | ||
| It's cool if a white man call you the end if you say if you ain't saying what they want you to say. | ||
| Well, that that's that's what's crazy too is in the black community there's racial slurs for people who aren't acting properly politically. | ||
| You know, like like Clarence Thomas or uh it was uh Larry Elder. | ||
| He he made those documentaries and Uncle Tom, he made those, right? | ||
| I think that was that was that was his right. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, he's executive producer, I think. | ||
| Like, I don't know, tell me about that experience. | ||
| My understanding, like when I grew up in Chicago, we had 47th Street just north of it was all black, just south of it was mixed, but largely like white working class. | ||
| And our black friends were told that they would get made fun of for acting white it when when they would hang out with us and do things like we play Pokemon cards or go skateboarding. | ||
| They were they were they were told it was they were acting white and they had to go and and stay in their communities in their neighborhoods. | ||
| You have experiences like that. | ||
| Is that is that how it goes? | ||
| Brother, this is generational. | ||
| My dad tell me told me stories about how it happened to him. | ||
| And I'll give you an example. | ||
| Back in the hood, because my dad grew up in the projects, they used to play what they call sideline kill. | ||
| And that means you play football in the middle of the street, tackle football in the in the concrete in the middle of the street. | ||
| So you you hit between the curb lines, and you know, dudes get scraped up in the in the hood, that's how you play football. | ||
| Um and my dad came back, everybody loved him. | ||
| He was a good football player out there, he was one of the toughest. | ||
| He came back with his report cards, he made all A's in one B. And he remember, you know, he was telling me how he was coming home. | ||
| He was like, dang, man, I really, you know, I'm I I made one B and his friends were looking at him like, what you mean you ain't run B? | ||
| You think you you think you white? | ||
| And he said from that point on, because he made one B, they didn't even want to get him on the team no more because he was being white. | ||
| It happened to me growing up. | ||
| I was the one bullying. | ||
| So I know this is real. | ||
| When if if a if a black dude was listening to rock and roll music, bully, if a black dude was a skater, bullied. | ||
| If a black dude put tucked his shirt in and wore a belt around his waist like a normal person to school, bullied. | ||
| I remember a guy in school, his name was Chris Parham. | ||
| His daddy was a pastor back when we had good black men, you know, his daddy was a pastor, he would come to school, he would wear his belt, we would make fun of his dad, and his dad was so strict he would have to address his dad as sir. | ||
| So you say, Yes, sir, yes, sir. | ||
| We made fun of Chris. | ||
| Chris was a virgin all the way. | ||
| I don't put his business that he was a virgin all through high school. | ||
| We made fun of him for being a virgin. | ||
| We made fun of him for the way he talked to his daddy, we made fun of his daddy because he was smart, he wanted to be like the white man. | ||
| Tim, like black people won't say this publicly for whatever reason. | ||
| Not people like me will, but the ones on the left, they they try to act like this don't happen. | ||
| Every black man in America that grew up in an all-black community. | ||
| I'm not saying black people that grew up in mixed communities and white communities. | ||
| You grew up in an all-black community. | ||
| I'll give you another example. | ||
| At my school, Dunbar High School, all black. | ||
| We had one guy who dated a white girl, and he committed suicide. | ||
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| Now I cannot confirm that he did it because he was bullied, but he was bullied, and he was the only black person in the school that would dare to date a white woman. | ||
| And when I was growing up, I didn't, I never date a white woman, looked at a white woman until I went to college. | ||
| But I was like, you can't bring a white girl, huh? | ||
| What are y'all talking about? | ||
| You break you talk, you dating a white girl. | ||
| You a sell out, you a coon, you're an Uncle Tom. | ||
| All the same things that you see them say about me today when I was engulfed in the community was what I the way I thought and the way I treated other black people. | ||
| Dude, we had we had a comment the other day, because I I made this point when you know, we've we've got people now posting on social media responses attacked, they're saying it's better to be racist than dead. | ||
| Like she should have not wanted to sit next to the black guy or whatever. | ||
| And I'm like, listen, man, if if you go, if you walk on a train and to your left, there's a black man, and to your right, there's a white guy, but the black guy's wearing a suit and like reading the Wall Street Journal and the white guy's scratching and shaking. | ||
| If you decide to sit next to the crazy looking white guy, you're racist. | ||
| Like that's a that's bad for you, right? | ||
| But it it someone commented, sure, Tim, like because I'm mentioning it's a it's a cultural thing, right? | ||
| If I see a guy in mil an officer in a military unit, if I'm in the middle of a riot and there's people smashing things up, and I see military guys, National Guard, and they're all black, I'm gonna be like, Thank God, I'm gonna go. | ||
| It's not it's not race, it's can identify something that I feel safe around. | ||
| Someone actually commented to me, it was one of the super chats, uh, or one of the rumble rants. | ||
| They were like, would you really be okay with your daughter bringing home a black man? | ||
| And I'm sitting here thinking, like, yo, it's the same argument. | ||
| Okay, my daughter's that's newborn. | ||
| You know, she's she's only six months. | ||
| But I'm looking, I'm thinking 20 years in the future. | ||
| If she comes home with a black man who's a an officer in the military or a successful businessman, yeah, I don't care. | ||
| Are you joking? | ||
| If she comes home with some white trash drug addict, I'll be pissed off. | ||
| I don't, it's it's it's it's crazy that people in any capacity want to make this be surface level overtly about race. | ||
| But I will add, as I say this, The problem I think we have in this country is the media, big tech only allowed us to talk about white supremacy and not about black supremacy or black racism, which any race can be racist. | ||
| And when you cover it up, you perpetuate the problem. | ||
| Honestly, I think they do it on purpose to make the problem persist. | ||
| They are keeping racism on life support. | ||
| A thousand percent, man. | ||
| Any rational person know we we're over that racist stuff. | ||
| You know, uh, before you and I were alive, well before we were alive, black people and white people couldn't drink on the same water fountain. | ||
| You you would never see I wouldn't even believe that was true unless I saw a video of it. | ||
| You can go right now to an all black neighborhood, and for the majority of the time, you're nobody gonna mess with you. | ||
| It's really these thugs and these gangsters. | ||
| And you gotta think, think about this. | ||
| These dumb, ignorant people who want an excuse to be racist, they will go out on the limb and go, well, I'm around a black person. | ||
| It's like, well, if you're around me, you're gonna act like that. | ||
| Quit being stupid. | ||
| I'll feel safer on you, bro. | ||
| And white people and white people's reaction to black people are no different than black people's reaction to black people. | ||
| If I get on a train and I see a brother with a hood on, and he's looking like he's ready to kill somebody, I'm not gonna be next to him either. | ||
| And I'm black. | ||
| And the same thing with a white dude. | ||
| You get a white dude that looked like a skinhead or somebody that looked like he's disheveled or he's weird, you know. | ||
| I mean, I'm like, they just say, let me tell him, it's the same thing with being a cop. | ||
| Most police officers, I would say 90%, because there's some nuts that are in police, the police department that should probably go to prison. | ||
| Um, and we just haven't caught them yet. | ||
| But it's the same thing with police. | ||
| When I go pull a man over on a traffic stop, if he's black and he's a decent person, and he I say, show me a license registration, here you go. | ||
| Nothing is afoot, nobody cares. | ||
| And it's not that I get up there and I'm he's black, so he must be a threat. | ||
| Because if statistical data shows that more white people shoot cops than black people do, and actually more cops shoot white people than they shoot black people. | ||
| And so we don't go around and be like, because he's black, he's a threat. | ||
| It's like, no, bro, are you a threat or are you not? | ||
| If you're a white guy and I pull you over and you're not listening to my commands, you are a threat to me. | ||
| Yeah, and it's the same thing with anything else, like you say about dating. | ||
| As long as your daughter happy and she with a man that's a good man, yeah, the color of the skin is so stupid and irrelevant, it's crazy. | ||
| But anybody, Tim, that says now it's better to be racist than to be dead is stupid. | ||
| It's whether you you're it's better to be aware and have awareness than to be on your phone. | ||
| And I'm not blaming the girl, but now I think people should pay a little more attention to their surroundings. | ||
| It's better to not be on your phone taking it for granted that people aren't gonna harm you versus you putting your phone down and making sure everything is good. | ||
| And if you see something that's weird, go sit somewhere else. | ||
| It's better to be vigilant than to be dead, not racist. | ||
| That's sad, man. | ||
| You know, the funny thing is you mentioned, like before we were born, people couldn't drink out of the same water fountains. | ||
| My my mom, because I'm second generation, mixed race Asian, she she was a kid when uh it was still illegal. | ||
| This is before the Supreme Court ruling. | ||
| Yo, it was only 1967 that you could actually you not only could you not date or marry like a person of a different race, if you were caught cohabitating it was illegal. | ||
| It's kind of wild to think. | ||
| What's what's fascinating, it's the first time in the history of the planet in the United States that we have created a society that has equality under the law for people based on race, ethnicity, or otherwise. | ||
| It is actually the norm for all of human history that people were racist and had laws based on race. | ||
| That's what's really frustrating about how Democrats are approaching these DEI policies and basing everything on race because it's sending us back to a time we already did away with. | ||
| And people are uh stuck on stupid, to be quite honest, because when you look at the iteration of black and white relationships in America, we actually did an incredible job at getting out of the rut quicker than most would because you cannot expect, and this is you gotta go back to antiquity. | ||
| You have to go back to putting yourself in the shoes of people back in the day. | ||
| You cannot expect for a group of people, and you you're talking the literacy and the life expectancy and stuff, it's far different than where we are today. | ||
| They go to uh the continent of Africa, get primitive people, because they're not developed. | ||
| And then they don't, they don't have a lot of things that the Europeans had at the time. | ||
| So they're viewing them as primitive people that they were sold to them as slaves. | ||
| So these people live as slaves. | ||
| And people expect one day at the snap, and both groups just come together like this and kumbaya. | ||
| It's like that took time to go from a general generations of viewing these people as slaves, these people viewing themselves as slaves, to now saying, okay, you're not a slave, but you're free. | ||
| But how does that happen? | ||
| Because people have been slaves. | ||
| There's fear, there's prejudice, there's propaganda. | ||
| There's, and then it has to go from there to the next stage to the next iteration. | ||
| And then now you're free, but it's not kosher for lack of better terms, to marry because the race mixing was so. | ||
| And then we had to get past that point. | ||
| Every society that have ever existed, there will always be an iteration on a time period of dispensation where you have to come out of the stupidity. | ||
| We see it in medicine. | ||
| We see it in race relations. | ||
| We see it even in amongst people who are of the same race. | ||
| Go to Africa. | ||
| The acceptance of black people amongst other black people are just as unacceptable when you look at black and white race relations in America. | ||
| I mean, even today, tribes don't talk to each other and people will kill each other from a different tribe. | ||
| Even today, we're past that in America, but we don't get enough credit for it. | ||
| I think we're gonna win, man. | ||
| I I even with all these problems, I mean these conversations I think that we're having are good. | ||
| I think that the United States does write so often. | ||
| We've improved, and it's been really, really great. | ||
| So I'm I'm gonna be optimistic on all this, but I appreciate you joining me, man. | ||
| Where can people find you? | ||
| Yeah, just find me on, and thank you for having me on, Tim. | ||
| Oh, bro, anytime. | ||
| You find me on the officer Tatum. | ||
| You just put the officer Tatum in any search in any social media platform. | ||
| I'll be there. | ||
| Right, I man. | ||
| Thanks for hanging out. | ||
| We'll see you next time. | ||
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| God bless you, man. | ||
| See you later. | ||
| Take care. | ||
| That is the great officer Tatum, big fan. | ||
| He's fantastic, and I'm glad to get his uh his take on all of this, especially because he he's he's lived it, he's experienced it. | ||
| You've heard it from him straight from you know, straight from him, what it's like growing up in the black community. | ||
| I could only speak somewhat outside of this. | ||
| I know you guys have been hear me talking about oh, I'm from Chicago and and things like that. | ||
| And it's because Trump's gonna send the National Guards because he's sending in ice and because they're telling us that we're wrong. | ||
| I didn't grow up in the community Brandon grew up in, but I grew up in a community affected next to a gang and black community. | ||
| Not I'm not saying it's the same thing, but there's an overlap. | ||
| And so we have questions about hey man, look, I'll put it this way I don't care if you're left, right, black, white, I want you to live better. | ||
| I want your life better. | ||
| And it's sad when he says there are people that hold that chip on their shoulder and say, don't act white, don't succeed. | ||
| I don't know if you guys ever saw that music video. | ||
| Read a book, read a book, read a mother effing book, wear deodorant, wear deodorant, you know, all that stuff, buy some land, f spinning rims. | ||
| The message is take power. | ||
| You know what, man? | ||
| If someone out there is racist towards you, whatever, let them think what they want to think. | ||
| They're gonna think whatever they want. | ||
| People are gonna hate you, and there's nothing you can do about it. | ||
| But you could be smart and figure out how to navigate that system and take that power for yourself. | ||
| So to all these people that got they they you know, they're complaining saying, don't be white, don't get good grades. | ||
| I'm like, conquer, conquer, man. | ||
| What is the means by which you can take this land over? | ||
| And so what does that mean? | ||
| Get rich, do it in a way that's not gonna put you at risk, it's not gonna hurt other people, succeed, eat good food. | ||
| Then you can have the land and the spinning rims, and you deserve it. | ||
| That's hard work. | ||
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