The Culture War - Tim Pool - Black Racists CELEBRATE Iryna Zarutska Killing, BLM DEFENDS It Ft. Brandon Tatum

Sept. 10, 2025 - The Culture War - Tim Pool

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Black Racists CELEBRATE Iryna Zarutska Killing, BLM DEFENDS It Ft. Brandon Tatum

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tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's crazy that this degree of violence exists.
unidentified		And the question is, how do you stop it?
unidentified		Yeah, that's a bit, that's the million dollar question.
brandon tatum ▲ ● ▼		That's why no politician is willing to even tackle the issue because it's harder than just a 30-minute fix.
brandon tatum ▲ ● ▼		You cannot fix and unravel what has been infused into the community for decades now.
unidentified		You're not going to fix it in 10, 15 years.
brandon tatum ▲ ● ▼		This is a complete overhaul of an entire identity in a group of people.
unidentified		Here's the story from MediaIte.
		This man was hurting, said CNN's Van Jones about the killer who stabbed Ukrainian refugee to death.
		Let's refresh.
		You know, let me just say a couple of things.
van jones ▲ ● ▼		One is, I mean, what happened to that young woman was horrible.
unidentified		And it's everybody's nightmare.
unidentified		If you're in any public space, subway, whatever, that something bad's going to happen to you or somebody you care about.
van jones ▲ ● ▼		So it does strike a chord.
unidentified		We don't know why that man did what he did.
		He's got a family.
		I got Charlie Kirk to say, we know he did it because she's white when there's no evidence of that.
		It's just pure racemongering, hate mongering.
van jones ▲ ● ▼		It's wrong.
unidentified		Then he says that if something like that had happened the other way, there'd be sweeping changes imposed on.
		We get it.
		He says the killer was hurting, and we don't know why he did it, despite the fact on video, he says, I got that white girl.
		Apparently, he says it twice.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's what it sounds like.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Now we have this.
unidentified		Listen to this.
		I'm a right to violence.
		All oppressed people have a right to violence.
		And I'm going to tell you something.
		It's like the right to pee.
		You got to have the right place.
		You got to have the right time.
		You got to have the appropriate situation.
		And I'm absolutely convinced that this is it.
		This clip was posted by Black Lives Matter just the other day as this national conversation is emerging.
		This is from a film, 1983, called Born in Flames.
		It's a feminist communist propaganda piece, and they are justifying their right to use violence at a time when we're talking about a man who killed a young white girl who's not from this country, who's not a colonizer, who did nothing wrong.
		So I'm going to be bringing in Brandon Tatum.
		He knows a lot about this.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He's the expert.
unidentified		Let's pull him in and see if we get this going.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It looks like it should be working just fine.
unidentified		Let's boot it up.
		Loading.
		Hey, Brandon, can you hear me?
		Yes, I can hear you.
		Hey, all right.
		Glad we got you.
		We got you in.
		And thanks for joining me, man.
		Appreciate it.
		It's my pleasure, man.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Did you see this video that Black Lives Matter posted?
unidentified		It's this clip from a movie in the 80s where a black woman says, we have a right to violence.
		All oppressed people do.
		They posted it just the other day.
		Yeah, I saw a little bit of clip of it.
brandon tatum ▲ ● ▼		I didn't want to watch it all because it was so ridiculous, but I saw a tomorrow clip of it.
unidentified		We also have that clip from Van Jones where he said, we don't know why this killer did it.
		And this killer was hurting.
		So, I mean, you've got experience, obviously, with crime, law enforcement, all that stuff.
		I'm curious your thoughts on the game that they're playing.
		But seriously, this statement from BLM, we know what they're trying to say.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's kind of freaky.
unidentified		Well, it's not shocking to me as a black man.
		It's not shocking.
		And to most black people in America that got common sense of this being honest, it's not shocking that the lack of concern that black people have in situations like this.
		If this was the roles reversed, and many people would admit to this, it would be outrageous.
brandon tatum ▲ ● ▼		People would be in the streets.
unidentified		People be screaming and spitting on each other, protests, burning buildings and all kinds of stuff if the roads were reversed.
		But in this particular scenario, even on the bus, even on the transit system, you had everybody around them were black.
		And he didn't stab nobody but her.
		Then allegedly he mentioned, I got that white girl.
		And then none of the black people did anything to help her.
		Initially, they just, oh, it ain't none of my business.
brandon tatum ▲ ● ▼		White girl gets attacked.
unidentified		It ain't none of my business.
		And so, and it's not shocking to me.
		And when you talk about the Black Lives Matter scenario where they said the choir part out loud, the reason that I know that this is the true feeling of how black people feel, generically speaking, is because I used to feel this way.
		I had the mind virus of hating white people growing up, feeling like all white people hated me.
		And slavery was played a big part of it.
brandon tatum ▲ ● ▼		The police played a big part of it.
unidentified		And when you're infected with that mind virus, all you see is white people bad, white people bad.
unidentified		So every interaction you have is subconsciously you're thinking in your mind that this is a negative interaction and the white people are doing something against me, even if they're not doing nothing against you.
brandon tatum ▲ ● ▼		The fact that white people are succeeding is an affront to black people.
unidentified		When you grow up generically, not every black person is like this.
brandon tatum ▲ ● ▼		I mean, generally speaking, this is how black people feel.
unidentified		So I'm not shocked that we don't see backlash.
		I'm not shocked that people get on TV and try to make excuses for this guy.
		They've been telling us for decades, and especially in like the 2010s with wokeness, DEI, that there's this plague of white supremacy in the country.
		It's entrenching the ideas that you just explained.
		And so, you know, Viva Fry the other day was saying, you've got this guy who's clearly schizophrenic or mentally ill, whatever it is that's going on.
		And then for a decade, he's told by the corporate press, by the media, that he's being hunted on a daily basis by white people.
		And this is what you get.
		So it's like everything you just said, but then you add on this tenfold attack by the media.
		And it seems like you are going to get more attacks like this.
		And, you know, now there's a conversation popping up around interracial violence where, you know, Will Kane talked about it.
		Matt Walsh is talking about it.
		I'm curious your thoughts on this as part of the conversation that black on white violence is 26 times higher than white on black violence.
		Do you think that's because of these narratives and that feeling you described?
		A thousand percent.
		When you're raised to view white people from the lens of a people who created slavery, which is how most people are receiving this information about slavery, and they're evil and they're conquerors all over the country, all over the world.
brandon tatum ▲ ● ▼		They conquered Native Americans.
unidentified		These are evil, evil white people.
unidentified		And what did they do to our ancestors?
brandon tatum ▲ ● ▼		They hung them from trees.
unidentified		They mutilated them.
brandon tatum ▲ ● ▼		Jim Crow, when this is punched into your brain, and then every time you get pulled over by a white cop and you're black, they just gun you down like an animal.
unidentified		You feel oppressed.
		You feel angry.
		You feel vengeful.
		And it's all a lie.
		But what happens is that vengeance and that hatred and somewhat fear causes you to be extra aggressive towards white people.
brandon tatum ▲ ● ▼		I remember when I was younger and I felt like black people were better than white people.
unidentified		And I felt like white people were inferior.
		And I looked at white men as cowards.
		And I would love an opportunity to put my hands on a white guy if I had the opportunity to, because my mind was caught up on this is what y'all then did to my people all these years.
		When a bad thing would happen to a white person, I used to feel like, why do we care?
		They didn't care about us.
		You get what I'm saying, Tim?
brandon tatum ▲ ● ▼		And like, this is what happens.
unidentified		And this is why we see the numbers the way we do in part.
		The other part of it is culture of violence amongst black people.
		Because one of the reasons why I felt like I was stronger, better, and, you know, most black people think we'll just dust these white boys off and they're nowhere near as strong and violent as we are.
		And that's because in part is true.
		A lot of us grew up in traumatic households, grew up with doubt of father, with anger issues, not understanding how to handle our emotions, in some cases, getting abused.
		Because when I was growing up, they get beat with switches and stenching cords and all kinds of other stuff that stems from these poor black neighborhoods.
		So you grow up with aggressiveness and violence.
		And therefore, you know, when the rubber hit the road, you see what happened where they knocked the woman out, it's stomping the white people out in the middle of the street.
		And Tim, this is just black violence against white.
		Black on black is even worse.
		If you go to my Instagram story right now, I show two videos of young black men just gunning each other down in the middle of the street, broad daylight.
		I mean, no mask, they're not even really running away from the crime, walking up on a brother and just unloading on him.
brandon tatum ▲ ● ▼		It was one situation, and I think it was in Chicago, kid riding his bike, and they call it his ops.
unidentified		They jump out of cars by four or five of them.
		They all gunning them down with fully automatic weapons.
		I mean, they standing over him, shooting them, I don't know, 100 times.
		They call it ops, you said?
		Yeah, yeah.
		This is short for opposition.
		Like, you know, the people who are ops or people who are against you.
		And it's just kind of short for opposition.
		Nick Shirley went to Chicago recently.
		He went to like gangland and he went and he embedded with this rapper and they were saying exactly that.
		I didn't quite understand what it meant.
		I'm from Chicago.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I've not heard that term.
unidentified		And he was saying, we got to be careful.
		We got ops.
		And then I was like, ops?
		What is that?
		You know, here's the crazy thing.
		Like in Chicago is exactly what you were talking about.
		This is exactly what Nick Shirley was filming.
		They're walking around with guns.
		They got switches.
		They got full auto.
		They talk about the gas station is where you go to basically die because they just go there.
		They just shoot and kill each other.
		And it's not even about being in a gang.
		It's just you might, you'll have a beef.
		And so you'll get caught up in it.
		Someone will shoot at somebody else.
		It's crazy that this degree of violence exists.
		And the question is, how do you stop it?
		Yeah, that's a bit, that's the million dollar question.
brandon tatum ▲ ● ▼		That's why no politician is willing to even tackle the issue because it's harder than just a 30-minute fix.
brandon tatum ▲ ● ▼		You cannot fix and unravel what has been infused into the community for decades now.
unidentified		You're not going to fix it in 10, 15 years.
unidentified		This is a complete overhaul of an entire identity in a group of people.
brandon tatum ▲ ● ▼		I mean, the political leaders won't even say anything about it.
unidentified		How many black leaders do you see on both sides of the spectrum that are saying this was wrong that that man stabbed that white girl like that?
		And they're out here protesting.
		You won't see a single black leader doing it, except if they're conservative.
		Black Lives Matter posted a video saying we have a right to violence.
		That's man, Ricardo.
		That's the same organization that do nothing for black people.
		And mind you, this they create hatred and cause black people to hate white people and become violent.
		They justify black violence, so therefore more young brothers are incarcerated.
		They glorify drug dealing and George Floyd behavior.
		So more black people are participating in behavior and doing time in prison.
		And then when they get money extracted from the wealthy white class of America and corporations, what do they do with the money?
		They enrich themselves and go buy houses.
		They didn't give no money to George Floyd.
		They gave no money to Michael Brown family.
		They gave no money to Breonna Taylor family.
		They've given no money and made no difference in the black community.
brandon tatum ▲ ● ▼		They just extract it.
unidentified		And that's all they do.
		So you're talking about how when you were growing up, you had this resentment towards white people that was like, you were raised with.
		Was there in your community, was there like a positive reinforcement?
		So like with this guy stabbing this young woman, you see that nobody initially everyone just looks and they're like, I'm not getting involved, right?
		I've heard stories like that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'm wondering if there's actually even worse than that.
unidentified		Is there like a positive reinforcement where someone else who's black and feels that way says good?
		You're saying a positive reinforcement means reinforcing the poor behavior in a black neighborhood.
		Say that there's like a black neighborhood, and some dude just hates a white person, he beats them up.
		Are there other black people who are like, It was good that you did that?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Like, they're happy about the black people.
brandon tatum ▲ ● ▼		I mean, it's, I think, the overarching approval that you get is why you continue to see this stuff happening.
unidentified		I'm telling you, like, there are black people, don't get it twisted that all black people are cheering for this.
brandon tatum ▲ ● ▼		Like, sane black people like myself and others know that it's an atrocity.
unidentified		However, do you think, and you can go look on posts from black Instagram, uh, Shade Room, just look at some posts and see what they say.
		Look at what happened with the young man in Texas that stabbed uh Camillo Anthony that stabbed the white kid.
		He had a GoFundMe, almost raised a million dollars.
		I think they raised close to a million dollars.
brandon tatum ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and then not only did they raise the money, Tim, what were the comments that were said under the raising of the money?
unidentified		Yep.
		And if you go anywhere now, because it was so egregious what this guy did to this white girl, but go to the black blogs, go to some of these things.
		I guarantee you, I will put my life on it and all of my wealth that you will find people on these posts saying, So what?
		Look at what they did all these years.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		There's one viral post that people are sharing from X where someone said, It said, We even for George Floyd now.
unidentified		And it showed a picture of the girl being murdered.
		As if, and it's, it's just, it's insane.
		They, they, you know, Van Jones comes out and says, How dare Charlie Kirk race monger?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's like, bro, there's nothing racial about the George Floyd killing.
unidentified		It was cops of various ethnic backgrounds and a black man who died.
		And there was no evidence that it was racially motivated, but they decided it was.
		In this instance, dude is on video, and it sounds like he says, I'm being careful, but it does sound like he says, I got that white girl.
		And Van Jones says, How dare you?
		It's nuts.
		And this is what this is what ruins the reputation of most black people because there's a lot of black people out there that say this is an atrocity.
		This is crazy.
brandon tatum ▲ ● ▼		That dude's a lunatic.
brandon tatum ▲ ● ▼		He should go to hell for what he did.
unidentified		But the problem is that there's enough black people that are saying the opposite in such an egregious way.
brandon tatum ▲ ● ▼		And there's enough black people who are political leaders and people who are on television.
unidentified		I mean, on the episode where he said that the only two, the three dummies on the show, two of them were black.
		And so it seems disproportionate that black people have this sentiment.
		And they're hypocrites because we know, like you said, George Floyd had nothing to do with race.
		Eric Garner had nothing to do with race.
brandon tatum ▲ ● ▼		None of these police shootings had anything to do with race.
unidentified		The problem is that there ain't no black cops to kill you.
		So if you're going to die, it's only the white man patrolling your community because y'all don't even apply to be a police officer in many of these cities.
		So it's not a race thing.
brandon tatum ▲ ● ▼		It's a you pulled a gun on a cop thing and you got shot.
unidentified		And so when you look at it, you know, with that, with that context, why would a Van Jones say this?
		With because, you know, without being disingenuous, he wants a safe face for the black community, bro.
		There is nothing but black people standing around this man.
		He on the train every day.
		He on the train around all these black people.
		And then when the white girl gets on, he stabs her.
brandon tatum ▲ ● ▼		He didn't stab the person next to him, people behind him.
unidentified		He stabbed the white girl, walked away.
		If he was really a violent individual that wanted to see death to people, he'd have stabbed her.
		He'd have stabbed the lady next to him.
		He'd have stabbed a couple of people and ran off the train.
		Yep.
		It's funny because in Chicago, you know what they do?
		When the crime gets really bad in these black areas, they just bulldoze all the buildings and flatten them and turn them into dirt.
		And that's the Democrat plan.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		100 years of Democrat political supermajority in Chicago and these areas that are high crime and they have this culture of violence.
unidentified		They just say, eventually, you know what?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Just come.
unidentified		They kick everybody out by force.
		They did this in the Claire courts.
		Promised, we're going to tear these houses down and rebuild nicer and better homes for all of you.
		Never did.
		It's been 16 years.
		It was a trick because they don't want to deal with the problem.
		They don't want to figure out, you know what it is?
		They can't come out publicly and say, hey, these black neighborhoods have a high violence problem and we want to figure out how to solve it.
		So we're going to need law enforcement because it's offensive.
		It offends the sensibilities of the modern left, including these uppity white liberals.
		So instead, they announced they're doing beautification and repairs.
		That way everybody can clap and pat each other on the back, bulldoze all the houses, walk away, and never fix it.
		And all that does is it makes the problem get worse every day.
		Let's put this in perspective real quick.
		When you look at the homicides, most of the homicides that are committed, a majority of the homicides, which means around, I've seen numbers of 48 to 51% are committed by black people.
		Now, the majority of those people who were killed by black people, the 50%, 98% are black.
		So majority of half of the murders are black people murdering other black people.
		If we put police officers, just say we doubled the number on the South side, you don't even have to be all over Chicago.
		You live in Chicago.
		All of Chicago isn't bad.
brandon tatum ▲ ● ▼		It's just these areas, mostly black areas, that are war zones.
unidentified		If you had a cop on every corner, people won't be committing crimes like this.
		It's opportunistic.
		They know there's no cops there.
		They know they can kill a brother and nobody's going to snitch.
		And the arrest rates and conviction rates of homicides against black people are like 80% of them go unsolved.
		You know what's really weird?
		Is that you're exactly right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The majority of the crime, it's intra-racial.
unidentified		These young black men, and you know when we say like majority of the murders are black people, it's actually young black men, and they're killing other young black men.
		And for some reason, Chicago being a great example, after 100 years, Democrats couldn't solve the problem.
		But I'll tell you what they're really good at doing, putting planned parenthoods in black neighborhoods.
		And I'm thinking about it, I'm like, man, they should do enact a lot of policies that kill black people and reduce the black population.
		Come on, somebody got to say it, Tim.
		You know, and I don't want to hear no black people give you any problems for saying what you said because they should be saying it.
		If they don't want to hear you say it, they should be saying it.
		Why are we advocating for, and black people disproportionately are represented in abortions in America, disproportionately.
		Disproportionately are represented in violence, murder, being murdered, incarceration, poverty, low education.
		And instead of us saying, hey, man, we need to get back to the joint board and stop worrying about white people and start worrying about black people in the inner city, black youth, marriage, all this stuff.
		We need to start getting back to getting into God and the church.
		We started blaming the pointing the finger at the white man.
brandon tatum ▲ ● ▼		We mad at the white man for telling the truth instead of addressing the truth.
unidentified		We mad at Trump for wanting to call in the National Guard to end the violence in black cities.
		Instead of them doing it, they're mad at Trump for doing it.
		This is what the left does.
		They claim that the right are the racists when they're actually enacting policies that are making everything worse from like the welfare policies to, as I mentioned, keeping like the cops don't go in these areas.
		And these are Democratically appointed police departments in these cities.
		And then the left narrative is that the white people are bad.
		But the funny thing I love about this is you go to every single white WASPI conservative, and they're going to tell you the Supreme Court should be eight.
		It should be Clarence Thomas and eight of his clones.
		It's not an issue of race.
		It's an issue of policy to make the community and people's lives better.
		Well, I want to tell you this story.
		I was in Portland and the Proud Boys were marching with Patriot Prayer.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Ooh, right wing, oh, white supremacists, they call them.
unidentified		Except the funny thing was, Antifa and the far leftists were all white.
		And there was a proud boy.
		He was a black man and they were screaming the N-word at him from across the street.
		And he got pissed and he broke from the group and went to go cross the street.
		He was going to throw fists.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		These were white leftists, Antifa, screaming racial slurs at a black proud boy.
unidentified		And then a white proud boy grabbed him and he held his hand and he was like, don't listen to them, brother.
		You're with me.
		We're brothers.
		We're in this together.
		They're trying to rile you up.
		And I'm like, why am I standing next to the quote unquote white supremacists?
		It's a white guy holding hands with a black guy saying, you're my brother.
		Don't listen to the racial slurs.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And it's the leftists who are screaming racist stuff.
unidentified		It's just, it's mind-blowing.
		It's a mind virus, a mind worm that these people got in their mind.
		And it is hypocrisy and also projection.
		They really hate black people and they really have hatred in their heart.
		That's why they project it on other people.
		I've been around Pratt.
		That's why I never say negative things about the Proud Boys because based on my own experience.
		We went to an event.
		It was a black event.
		It was Dinesh D'Souza.
brandon tatum ▲ ● ▼		He had like four black conservatives on a panel at his event and Tifa was there to protest or whatever.
unidentified		And you know who was there to protect us and who was there to make sure we were good?
		The Proud Boys.
		And the funny thing is that most of them were black and Hispanic.
		Yeah.
		Like they frame it as if the Proud Boys are a bunch of white dudes.
		It's like when the Proud Boys in LA, it was one white guy.
		The rest of them were black and Hispanic.
		And they're framing it as if they're bad.
		I've never seen the Proud Boys in my personal experience.
		I've never seen them do anything else but be patriots and try to stand up for what's right against these nut jobs.
		And I'll tell you this, I went on campus.
		You know, these Black Lives Matter folks, I go on campus at UC Davis, we get attacked.
		Yep.
brandon tatum ▲ ● ▼		Not one video of a single black person defending me.
unidentified		And I didn't need to defend physically, but no, no one's defending me online and saying, no, that's wrong.
		Then white people come in my social media right now and they call me the N-word on X because they don't like what I say about Israel or whatever the case may be.
		But black people are cool with that.
		It's cool if a white man call you the N if you say, if you ain't saying what they want you to say.
		Well, that's what's crazy too is in the black community, there's racial slurs for people who aren't acting properly politically.
		You know, like Clarence Thomas or it was Larry Elder.
		He made those documentaries on Uncle Tom.
		He made those, right?
		I think that was his reaction.
brandon tatum ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, he's an executive producer, I think.
unidentified		Like, I don't know.
		Tell me about that experience.
		My understanding, like when I grew up in Chicago, we had 47th Street just north of it was all black.
		Just south of it was mixed, but largely like white working class.
		And our black friends were told that they would get made fun of for acting white when they would hang out with us and do things like we play Pokemon cards or go skateboarding.
		They were told they were acting white and they had to go and stay in their communities and their neighborhoods.
		You have experiences like that?
		Is that how it goes?
		Brother, this is generational.
		My dad told me stories about how it happened to him.
		And I'll give you an example.
		Back in the hood, because my dad grew up in the projects, they used to play what they call sideline kill.
		And that means you play football in the middle of the street, tackle football in the concrete in the middle of the street.
brandon tatum ▲ ● ▼		So you hit between the curb lines and dudes get scraped up.
unidentified		And in the hood, that's how you play football.
		And my dad came back.
		Everybody loved him.
brandon tatum ▲ ● ▼		He was a good football player out there.
unidentified		He was one of the toughest.
		He came back with his report cards.
		He made all A's at one B.
		And he remembered, you know, he was telling me how he was coming home.
		He was like, dang, man, I really, you know, I made one B.
		And his friends were looking at him like, what do you mean you made one B?
brandon tatum ▲ ● ▼		You think you, you think you white?
unidentified		And he said from that point on, because he made one B, they didn't even want to get him on the team no more because he was being white.
brandon tatum ▲ ● ▼		It happened to me growing up.
brandon tatum ▲ ● ▼		I was the one bullying.
unidentified		So I know this is real.
		If a black dude was listening to rock and roll music, If a black dude was a skater, bullied.
		If a black dude tucked his shirt in and wore a belt around his waist like a normal person to school, bullied.
		I remember a guy in school, his name was Chris Parham.
brandon tatum ▲ ● ▼		His daddy was a pastor back when we had good black men.
unidentified		You know, his daddy was a pastor.
		He would come to school.
		He would wear his belt.
		We would make fun of his dad.
		And his dad was so strict, he would have to address his dad as sir.
		So he said, yes, sir.
		Yes, sir.
brandon tatum ▲ ● ▼		We made fun of Chris.
brandon tatum ▲ ● ▼		Chris was a virgin all the way.
unidentified		I don't put his business out there.
unidentified		He was a virgin all through high school.
brandon tatum ▲ ● ▼		We made fun of him for being a virgin.
brandon tatum ▲ ● ▼		We made fun of him for the way he talked to his daddy.
unidentified		We made fun of his daddy because he was smart.
unidentified		He wanted to be like the white man.
brandon tatum ▲ ● ▼		Tim, like black people won't say this publicly for whatever reason.
brandon tatum ▲ ● ▼		Not people like me will, but the ones on the left, they try to act like this don't happen.
unidentified		Every black man in America that grew up in an all-black community.
		I'm not saying black people that grew up in mixed communities and white communities.
		You grew up in an all-black community.
		I'll give you another example.
		At my school, Dunbar High School, all black.
		We had one guy who dated a white girl and he committed suicide.
		Whoa.
brandon tatum ▲ ● ▼		Now, I cannot confirm that he did it because he was bullied, but he was bullied.
unidentified		And he was the only black person in the school that would dare to date a white woman.
		And when I was growing up, I never dated a white woman, looked at a white woman until I went to college.
		But I was like, you can't bring a white girl, huh?
		What are y'all talking?
		You dating a white girl.
		You a sellout.
		You a coon.
		You're an uncle Tom.
brandon tatum ▲ ● ▼		All the same things that you see them say about me today when I was engulfed in the community was the way I thought and the way I treated other black people.
unidentified		Dude, we had a comment the other day because I made this point when, you know, we've got people now posting on social media responses attack.
		They're saying it's better to be racist than dead.
		Like she should have not wanted to sit next to the black guy or whatever.
		And I'm like, listen, man, if you walk on a train and to your left, there's a black man and to your right, there's a white guy, but the black guy's wearing a suit and like reading the Wall Street Journal and the white guy's scratching and shaking.
		If you decide to sit next to the crazy looking white guy, you're racist.
		That's bad for you, right?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But someone commented, sure, Tim, like, because I'm interesting, it's a cultural thing, right?
unidentified		If I see a guy, an officer in a military unit, if I'm in the middle of a riot and there's people smashing things up and I see military guys, National Guard, and they're all black, I'm going to be like, thank God, I'm going to go.
		It's not race.
		It can identify something that I feel safe around.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Someone actually commented to me.
unidentified		It was one of the super chats or one of the Rumble rants.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They were like, would you really be okay with your daughter bringing home a black man?
unidentified		And I'm sitting here thinking like, yo, it's the same argument.
		Okay.
		My daughter's newborn.
		She's only six months.
		But I'm looking, I'm thinking 20 years in the future.
		If she comes home with a black man who's an officer in the military or a successful businessman, yeah, I don't care.
		Are you joking?
		If she comes home with some white trash drug addict, I'll be pissed off.
		I don't, it's, it's, it's, it's crazy that people in any capacity want to make this be surface level overtly about race.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But I will add, as I say this, the problem I think we have in this country is the media, big tech, only allowed us to talk about white supremacy and not about black supremacy or black racism, which any race can be racist.
unidentified		And when you cover it up, you perpetuate the problem.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Honestly, I think they do it on purpose to make the problem persist.
unidentified		They are keeping racism on life support.
brandon tatum ▲ ● ▼		A thousand percent, man.
unidentified		Any rational person know we're over that racist stuff.
brandon tatum ▲ ● ▼		You know, before you and I were alive, well before we were alive, black people and white people couldn't drink down the same water fountain.
unidentified		You would never see.
		I wouldn't even believe that was true unless I saw a video of it.
		You can go right now to an all-black neighborhood and a majority of the time.
		Yeah, nobody gonna mess with you.
brandon tatum ▲ ● ▼		It's really these thugs and these gangsters.
unidentified		And you got to think, think about this.
brandon tatum ▲ ● ▼		These dumb, ignorant people who want an excuse to be racist, they will go out on a limb and go, well, I'm around a black person.
brandon tatum ▲ ● ▼		It's like, well, if you're around me, you're going to act like that.
unidentified		Quit being stupid.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'll be safe on you, bro.
unidentified		And white people, and white people's reaction to black people are no different than black people's reaction to black people.
		If I get on a train and I see a brother with a hood on and he looking like he's ready to kill somebody, I'm not going to be next to him either.
		And I'm black.
		And the same thing with a white dude.
		You'll get a white dude that looked like a skinhead or somebody that looked like he's disheveled or he weird.
		You know what I mean?
		I'm like, they just say, let me tell him, it's the same thing with being a cop.
brandon tatum ▲ ● ▼		Most police officers, I would say 90%, because there are some nuts that are in the police department that should probably go to prison.
unidentified		And we just haven't caught them yet.
		But it's the same thing with police.
		When I go pull a man over on a traffic stop, if he black and he a decent person, and he, I say, show me your license registration, here you go.
		Nothing is afoot.
		Nobody cares.
		And it's not that I get up there and he black.
		So he must be a threat.
		Because if statistical data shows that more white people shoot cops than black people do.
		And actually, more cops shoot white people than they shoot black people.
		And so we don't go around and be like, because he black, he's a threat.
		It's like, no, bro, are you a threat or are you not?
		If you're a white guy and I pull you over and you're not listening to my commands, you are a threat to me.
		And it's the same thing with anything else, like you say about dating.
		As long as your daughter is happy and she with a man that's a good man, the color of the skin is so stupid and irrelevant, it's crazy.
brandon tatum ▲ ● ▼		But anybody, Tim, that says now it's better to be racist than to be dead is stupid.
unidentified		It's better to be aware and have awareness than to be on your phone.
unidentified		And I'm not blaming the girl, but now I think people should pay a little more attention to their surroundings.
brandon tatum ▲ ● ▼		It's better to not be on your phone, taking it for granted that people aren't going to harm you versus you putting your phone down and making sure everything is good.
unidentified		And if you see something that's weird, go sit somewhere else.
brandon tatum ▲ ● ▼		It's better to be vigilant than to be dead, not racist.
unidentified		That's sad, man.
		You know, the funny thing is you mentioned like before we were born, people couldn't drink out of the same water fountains.
		My mom, because I'm second generation mixed race Asian, she was a kid when it was still illegal.
		This is before the Supreme Court ruling.
		Yo, it was only 1967 that you could actually, not only could you not date or marry like a person of a different race, if you were caught cohabitating, it was illegal.
		It's kind of wild to think.
		What's fascinating, it's the first time in the history of the planet in the United States that we have created a society that is equality under the law for people based on race, ethnicity, or otherwise.
		It is actually the norm for all of human history that people were racist and had laws based on race.
		That's what's really frustrating about how Democrats are approaching these DEI policies and basing everything on race because it's sending us back to a time we already did away with.
		And people are stuck on stupid, to be quite honest, because when you look at the iteration of black and white relationships in America, we actually did an incredible job at getting out of the rut quicker than most would, because you cannot expect, and this is, you got to go back to antiquity.
brandon tatum ▲ ● ▼		You have to go back to putting yourself in the shoes of people back in the day.
brandon tatum ▲ ● ▼		You cannot expect for a group of people, and you're talking the literacy and the life expectancy and stuff.
unidentified		It's far different than where we are today.
		They go to the continent of Africa, get primitive people because they're not developed.
		And then they don't have a lot of things that the Europeans had at the time.
		So they're viewing them as primitive people that they were sold to them as slaves.
		So these people live as slaves.
		And people expect one day it to snap and both groups just come together like this and kumbaya.
brandon tatum ▲ ● ▼		It's like that took time to go from a generations of viewing these people as slaves, these people viewing themselves as slaves, to now saying, okay, you're not a slave, but you're free.
unidentified		But how does that happen?
brandon tatum ▲ ● ▼		Because people have been slaves.
unidentified		There's fear.
		There's prejudice.
		There's propaganda.
		And then it has to go from there to the next stage, to the next iteration.
		And then now you're free, but it's not kosher, for lack of better terms, to marry because the race mixing was such and such.
brandon tatum ▲ ● ▼		And then we had to get past that point.
		Every society that have ever existed, there will always be an iteration and a time period of dispensation where you have to come out of the stupidity.
		We see it in medicine.
unidentified		We see it in race relations.
brandon tatum ▲ ● ▼		We see it even amongst people who are of the same race.
		Go to Africa.
		The acceptance of black people amongst other black people are just as unacceptable when you look at black and white race relations in America.
unidentified		I mean, even today's tribes don't talk to each other and people will kill each other from a different tribe.
brandon tatum ▲ ● ▼		Even today, we're past that in America, but we don't get enough credit for it.
unidentified		I think we're going to win, man.
		Even with all these problems, I mean, these conversations I think that we're having are good.
		I think that the United States does right so often.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We've improved and it's been really, really great.
unidentified		So I'm going to be optimistic on all this, but I appreciate you joining me, man.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Where can people find you?
unidentified		Yeah, just find me on, and thank you for having me on, too.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh, bro, anytime.
unidentified		You find me on The Officer Tatum.
unidentified		You just put The Officer Tatum in any search into any social media platform.
brandon tatum ▲ ● ▼		I'll be there.
unidentified		Ryan, man, thanks for hanging out.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We'll see you next time.
unidentified		All right.
unidentified		God bless you, Missy.
van jones ▲ ● ▼		Take care.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That is the great Officer Tatum.
unidentified		Big fan.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He's fantastic.
unidentified		And I'm glad to get his take on all of this, especially because he's lived it.
		He's experienced it.
		You've heard it from him, straight from him, what it's like growing up in the black community.
		I can only speak somewhat outside of this.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I know you guys are going to hear me talking about, oh, I'm from Chicago and things like that.
unidentified		And it's because Trump's going to send the National Guards because he's sending an ice and because they're telling us that we're wrong.
		I didn't grow up in the community Brandon grew up in, but I grew up in a community affected next to a gang and black community.
		I'm not saying it's the same thing, but there's an overlap.
		And so we have questions about, hey, man, look, I'll put it this way.
		I don't care if you're left, right, black, white.
		I want you to live better.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I want your life better.
unidentified		And it's sad when he says there are people that hold that chip on their shoulder and say, don't act white, don't succeed.
		I don't know if you guys ever saw that music video, read a book, read a book, read a mother effing book, where deodorant, wear deodorant, you know, all that stuff.
		Buy some land, F spinning rims.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The message is take power.
unidentified		You know what, man?
		If someone out there is racist towards you, whatever, let them think what they want to think.
		They're going to think whatever they want.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		People are going to hate you and there's nothing you can do about it.
unidentified		But you could be smart and figure out how to navigate that system and take that power for yourself.
		So to all these people that got, they, you know, they're complaining saying, don't be white, don't get good grades.
		I'm like, conquer, conquer, man.
		What is the means by which you can take this land over?
		And so what does that mean?
		Get rich.
		Do it in a way that's not going to put you at risk.
		It's not going to hurt other people.
		Succeed.
		Eat good food.
		Then you can have the land and the spinning rims and you deserve it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's hard work.
unidentified		So we're going to get you up on your way, my friends, to go hang out with Russell Brand, who's going live right now.
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tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Man, this Rumble morning lineup is absolutely fantastic.
unidentified		Russell is live right now.
unidentified		World War III imminent.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I certainly hope not.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You can follow me on X and Instagram at Timcast.
unidentified		I got a new channel.
unidentified		It is, it's Tim Poole on Rumble, and it is youtube.com slash at Tim Poole.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Check it out.
unidentified		I did a video.
		It's going up in about an hour breaking down Nick Shirley.
		He went reporter from Gangland in Chicago.
		So I talk about that for a little while, give you my experiences.
		If you're more interested in that stuff, check it out.
		We're back tonight at 8 p.m.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Thanks for hanging out.

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